00:00:25 <Morbus> i'm writing an automated anality checker for gamegrene.
00:00:33 <sbp> anality checker?
00:00:40 <sbp> I'm writing an RDF DB
00:00:41 <Morbus> current rules: all teasers with html, all teasers less than 225 chars, and all articles with no category assigned.
00:00:52 <Morbus> up next: artices that don't have blockquotes, articles that don't have headers, etc., etc.
00:00:56 <sbp> ooh, awesome. analpedantry.pl?
00:01:01 <Morbus> articles with <p> and <br />, etc.
00:01:09 <Morbus> well, i'm doing it as a drupal thingy so i can use all their functions.
00:01:11 <Morbus> so php ;)
00:01:15 <sbp> ahh
00:01:30 <sbp> you could work on one for Ghyll afterwards
00:01:37 <sbp> all citations with a period at the end...
00:01:40 <Morbus> do we need one for ghyll?
00:01:41 <Morbus> lol
00:01:43 <sbp> :-)
00:01:47 <Morbus> /without/ a period.
00:01:50 <sbp> bah
00:01:53 <sbp> with!
00:02:01 <sbp> heh, heh
00:02:36 <crschmidt> wow
00:02:47 <crschmidt> sbp, result 45 for crschmidt is the source for foafcite
00:02:56 <sbp> ha! weird
00:03:03 <sbp> inamidst has a really low PR usually
00:03:22 <sbp> oh, it's on Aaron's weblog courtesy of swhacker
00:04:37 <deltab> sbp: "item" is misleading
00:05:01 <sbp> deltab: can't use "set" though. what'd you use?
00:05:06 <deltab> __rand__ gets called with the other set
00:05:22 <deltab> or other object
00:05:30 <deltab> "other"
00:05:39 <sbp> 'tis fine
00:05:44 <sbp> but I'm using the operator.__and__ idiom in any case
00:06:30 <sbp> bit bizarre:
00:06:31 <sbp> File "./rdfdb.py", line 121
00:06:31 <sbp> return self.itertriples()
00:06:31 <sbp> SyntaxError: 'return' with argument inside generator
00:06:56 <sbp> oh! I yield later on
00:07:03 <sbp> but self.itertriples() is a generator
00:07:04 <sbp> oh well
00:08:41 <sbp> muahaha, it works!
00:08:45 <sbp> this is an awesome DB
00:09:18 <crschmidt> What is?
00:09:26 <sbp> rdfdb.py
00:10:20 <sbp> I wanted to use cdb originally, but, uh...
00:10:30 <sbp> it's a bit hard to update a cdb
00:10:59 <sbp> * sbp says after having poked around with a pure python implementation too for quite some time
00:13:23 <deltab> the clue is in "constant" :-)
00:13:37 <sbp> yes...
00:14:10 <sbp> * sbp is now known as csbp (clueless...)
00:14:24 <deltab> though did you see rdbm?
00:14:31 <sbp> nope. looking
00:14:53 <sbp> ooh
00:15:06 <deltab> http://www.fefe.de/rdbm/
00:15:44 <sbp> I'll bet nobody's gone near it with Python yet though
00:16:35 <deltab> hmm, said to be broken
00:24:37 <sbp> crschmidt: where's your RDF/XML => NTriples gateway again, please?
00:28:39 <crschmidt> crschmidt.net/rdfpython/redlandbot.py?cmd=^q foo&machine=1
00:29:04 <sbp> hmm?
00:29:11 <crschmidt> oh wait
00:29:13 <crschmidt> wrong thing
00:29:14 <sbp> no, the thing that converts RDF/XML input to NTriples
00:29:16 <sbp> yeah
00:29:25 <crschmidt> um... semweb/xml2nt.cgi, i think, lemme check
00:29:46 <crschmidt> yeah, http://crschmidt.net/semweb/xml2nt.cgi?url=foo
00:29:59 <sbp> many thanks
00:31:40 <sbp> [[[
00:31:40 <sbp> Internal Server Error
00:31:40 <sbp> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
00:31:41 <sbp> ]]]
00:32:04 <sbp> ah, "uri"
00:32:24 <sbp> and that doesn't work either
00:32:39 <sbp> crschmidt?
00:32:53 <crschmidt> oop
00:33:00 <crschmidt> python2.4 bug
00:33:16 <sbp> bug?
00:33:22 <crschmidt> in my setup
00:33:25 <sbp> ah#
00:33:27 <sbp> s/#//
00:33:30 <crschmidt> it can't find the RDF module
00:33:36 <sbp> aha
00:33:52 <sbp> sys.path.append('/lib/python2.3/site-packages')
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00:34:04 <crschmidt> gotta be a more general way though?
00:34:28 <sbp> cd /lib/python2.4/site-packages && ln /lib/python2.3/site-packages/RDF?
00:34:45 <deltab> that's not a bug, that's intended
00:35:06 <sbp> rebuilding would be the proper way
00:35:12 <deltab> different version installations of python are independent
00:35:23 <sbp> you could also use #!/usr/bin/env python2.3 as your shebang
00:35:57 <deltab> or make a symlink
00:36:06 <Morbus> or suck me.
00:36:11 <sbp> or both
00:38:57 <sbp> crschmidt: fixed? thanks
00:40:06 <sbp> heh, it works
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00:40:14 <sbp> that has to be the quickest RDF API ever
00:51:57 <sbp> whoo: [[[
00:51:58 <sbp> $ ./rdfdb.py /tmp/$(date +%s) http://inamidst.com/sbp/foaf object 'URI("http://inamidst.com/sbp/foaf#Sean")' 'URI("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name")'
00:51:59 <sbp> Warning: Making directory /tmp/1104367717
00:51:59 <sbp> Sean B. Palmer
00:51:59 <crschmidt> yeah, sorry, by the time i cam back and explained the problem, i had fixed it
00:51:59 <sbp> ]]]
00:52:56 <crschmidt> i just made it use python2.3
00:54:38 <sbp> [[[
00:54:39 <sbp> $ ./rdfdb.py /tmp/$(date +%s) http://inamidst.com/sbp/foaf objects None 'URI("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name")'
00:54:39 <sbp> Warning: Making directory /tmp/1104367868
00:54:39 <sbp> (u'http://infomesh.net/2003/people#DanBrickley', u'http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name', u'Dan Brickley')
00:54:39 <sbp> (u'http://infomesh.net/2003/people#MortenF', u'http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name', u'Morten Frederiksen')
00:54:41 <sbp> [...]
00:54:41 <sbp> ]]]
00:54:49 <sbp> probably should just return the actual objects though...
00:56:06 <sbp> [[[
00:56:06 <sbp> $ ./rdfdb.py /tmp/$(date +%s) http://inamidst.com/sbp/foaf objects None 'URI("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name")'
00:56:06 <sbp> Warning: Making directory /tmp/1104367965
00:56:06 <sbp> Dan Brickley
00:56:07 <sbp> Morten Frederiksen
00:56:09 <sbp> [...]
00:56:11 <sbp> ]]]
00:57:48 <sbp> here it is:
00:57:49 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/proj/rdf/rdfdb.py
00:59:34 <sbp> it has four databases
00:59:37 <sbp> all shelve instances
00:59:59 <sbp> subjects = {subject: [tripleID1, tripleID2, ...], ...}
01:00:04 <sbp> same for predicate and object
01:00:26 <sbp> triples = {tripleID: (subj, pred, objt), ...}
01:01:02 <sbp> so the operator idiom was for use in the query method
01:01:14 <sbp> for t in reduce(operator.__and__, filter(lambda s: s, sets)):
01:01:14 <sbp> yield self.tripleDB[t]
01:01:42 <sbp> where "sets" is just a groomed list of the subj, pred, and objt queried for resolved against the subject, predicate, and object DBs
01:02:07 <sbp> so you AND the sets of tripleIDs to find the ones in which all of the query terms occur. neat, no?
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01:04:33 <sbp> warning: Graph.append really is append at the moment, not add
01:05:10 <sbp> nobody's following, are they? :-)
01:05:28 <crschmidt> nope
01:05:53 <Arnia> Not even slightly I'm afraid :) Still attacking my own API
01:06:13 <crschmidt> I did figure out readline today, did you see that sbp?
01:06:18 <sbp> yeah
01:10:25 <bancus> there's something weird when the $5 difference between XL and L pizzas makes it cheaper to get an XL
01:10:40 <sbp> shame shelve uses pickle not marshal...
01:11:25 <bancus> or when medium is the same price as XL
01:11:32 <bancus> (and when there's no small)
01:11:41 <bancus> one of the things I dislike in recent developments
01:11:48 <bancus> we have medium, large and extra large everywhere
01:12:02 <bancus> I thought medium was supposed to be in the middle of two or more choices
01:12:04 <JibberJim> the lack of small pizzas is the same reason there's no small conoms
01:12:09 <JibberJim> er condoms
01:12:11 <bancus> heh
01:12:20 <bancus> what if it's just one person?
01:12:33 <crschmidt> sbp: what's the difference between them?
01:12:42 <bancus> they used to sell personal pan pizzas at this place
01:12:42 <sbp> marshal is faster, but less portable
01:12:45 <bancus> but I don't see them
01:12:56 <JibberJim> then they need to get a big pizza to encourage them to go find a new friend to share it with
01:13:01 <bancus> is marshal as much of a security risk as pickle?
01:13:10 <sbp> pickle is a security risk?
01:13:26 <sbp> perhaps they should call pizzas by their serving size, or weight
01:13:27 <bancus> if a third-party can modify the pickled data
01:13:35 <sbp> like they do for beefburgers
01:13:54 <bancus> when you unpickle something, code is executed
01:13:56 <sbp> oh, that. so what? if a third-party can modify the data they can usually modify the code too...
01:14:07 <bancus> a third-party can insert code
01:14:40 <sbp> well put it this way: *.pyc files are marshaled out
01:14:47 <bancus> say if you were to use pickled data across a network or something
01:15:14 <bancus> it could be a huge potential exploit
01:15:19 <sbp> then the rules of network security apply, not pickle security
01:15:27 <bancus> heh
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01:30:54 <sbp> python looks more like lisp every day:
01:30:55 <sbp> sets = (database.get(nodeToDB(term)) for (database, term) in
01:30:55 <sbp> ((self.subjectDB, subj),
01:30:55 <sbp> (self.predicateDB, pred),
01:30:55 <sbp> (self.objectDB, objt)) if term)
01:31:55 <bancus> heh
01:32:08 <Arnia> Woo... lisp is more haunting than fortran or cobol
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02:08:27 <sbp> actually
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02:09:17 <kpreid> theoretically
02:09:45 <sbp> pragmatico-theoretically
02:39:55 <sbp> whee, 90MB RDF file. somehow I need to convert it to NTriples
02:40:27 <sbp> * sbp wonders about installing raptor
02:41:23 <sbp> * sbp goes for it
02:41:38 <sbp> raptor on cygwin (again). this should be fun
02:42:21 <crschmidt> sbp: i can convert it for you?
02:42:40 <crschmidt> if it's just the one file
02:42:54 <sbp> ah, that'd be neat. thanks
02:42:57 <sbp> it's just http://www.isb-sib.ch/~ejain/rdf/data/taxonomy.rdf.gz
02:43:19 <sbp> * sbp wonders how big the NTriples'll be
02:43:20 <crschmidt> grabbing it
02:44:37 <crschmidt> look at that disk spin
02:44:41 <sbp> heh
02:45:12 <crschmidt> hm, odd. 100% cpu the whole time, with spikes of disk activity.
02:45:28 <sbp> running rdfproc/rapper on it?
02:45:32 <crschmidt> rapper, yeah
02:45:39 <crschmidt> redirecting to file
02:46:24 <crschmidt> -rw-r--r-- 1 crschmidt users 132770315 Dec 29 21:45 taxonomy.ntriples
02:46:24 <crschmidt> -rw-r--r-- 1 crschmidt users 90213363 Dec 22 06:50 taxonomy.rdf
02:46:37 <sbp> ooh, not bad
02:46:45 <crschmidt> rapper: Parsing returned 1100783 statements
02:46:46 <sbp> bzip2 it and bung it up somewhere?
02:46:53 <crschmidt> already underway
02:46:57 <sbp> heh, heh
02:46:59 <sbp> wc -l?
02:47:10 <sbp> ne'ermind, I'll do it my end
02:47:18 <crschmidt> actually, gotta trim the rapper stuff off
02:48:31 <crschmidt> grep -v "rapper: " taxonomy.ntriples
02:50:20 <crschmidt> shoulda timed my bzip
02:50:28 <crschmidt> ah well
02:54:31 <sbp> how big's the bzip?
02:56:48 <crschmidt> just finished
02:56:59 <crschmidt> -rw-r--r-- 1 crschmidt users 4636593 Dec 29 21:48 taxonomy.nt.bz2
02:57:18 <sbp> rather neat
02:57:34 <sbp> thanks
02:57:37 <crschmidt> np
03:00:25 <sbp> time for bzcat to shine
03:02:58 <sbp> $ ls -al taxonomy.nt
03:02:58 <sbp> -rw-r--r-- 1 sbp all 132770237 Dec 30 02:59 taxonomy.nt
03:03:28 <crschmidt> looks right
03:03:36 <sbp> $ wc taxonomy.nt
03:03:36 <sbp> 1100783 4781556 132770237 taxonomy.nt
03:03:44 <sbp> it agrees with rapper on the statement count
03:03:50 <sbp> thanks again
03:04:06 <crschmidt> yeah, it's different than the size i gave cause i pull thed "rapper returns" statements off
03:04:15 <sbp> yeah, I guessed so
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03:04:16 <Monty> it's cskaterun!
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04:11:58 <Arnia> My brother is gonna kill me
04:12:25 <Arnia> He has a short temper, he asked me to set up his computer, and his computer is dead
04:12:38 <Arnia> This is not conducive to familial harmony :/
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05:05:05 <crschmidt> I think all transactions on the web should be performed via python dictionaries, stored into the python pickle format
05:05:16 <crschmidt> screw this XMLRPC, SOAP bullshit
05:05:21 <crschmidt> Python dicts are the only way to go
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05:11:26 <Arnia> Hmm
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07:41:39 <bancus> .w meme
07:41:42 <phenny> meme 1. a cultural unit (an idea or value or pattern of behavior) that is passed from one generation to another by nongenetic means (as by imitation); "memes are the cultrual counterpart of genes"
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09:32:35 <Arnia> Wow... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/pdf/press-releases/putting-transport-onthemap.pdf
09:32:42 <Arnia> That's gonna be fun to get around
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10:31:36 <Monty> welcome, JibberJim
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11:06:22 <JibberJim> go screw yourself Monty
11:06:22 <Monty> ok.....
11:07:00 <Phurl> lol
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12:24:46 <Monty> lo valmont
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12:49:34 <sbp> .cp capital E.*with acute
12:49:38 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'capital E.*with acute'.
12:49:40 <phenny> sbp: 08:38Z <bunny_out> tell sbp that phenny needs to give the date with the message, and not just the time
12:49:44 <sbp> .cp capital.*E.*with acute
12:49:46 <phenny> 00C1: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (Á)
12:49:50 <phenny> 00C9: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (É)
12:49:53 <phenny> 00CD: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH ACUTE (Í) [...]
12:50:14 <sbp> .cp lower.*E.*with acute
12:50:18 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'lower.*E.*with acute'.
12:50:52 <sbp> phenny: tell bunny* that phenny will give the date if and only if the message was not sent on the current day. therefore, sans date you can assume that it was sent today
12:50:54 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on for you when bunny* is around.
12:50:56 <sbp> .cp small.*E.*with acute
12:50:59 <phenny> 00E1: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (á)
12:51:03 <phenny> 00E9: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (é)
12:51:06 <phenny> 00ED: LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH ACUTE (í) [...]
12:51:27 <sbp> .cp latin small letter a with grave
12:51:31 <phenny> 00E0: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE (à)
12:51:31 <crschmidt> phenny: tell bunny* oh, sbp gets love, but i get not even a courtesy response? I see how it is
12:51:33 <phenny> crschmidt: I'll pass that on for you when bunny* is around.
12:51:52 <sbp> heh. hey crschmidt
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13:32:43 <crschmidt> * crschmidt wonders why all those characters look funky to him
13:32:58 <crschmidt> .cp diaresis
13:33:01 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'diaresis'.
13:33:11 <crschmidt> .cp grave
13:33:14 <phenny> 0060: GRAVE ACCENT (`)
13:33:17 <phenny> 00C0: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH GRAVE (À)
13:33:20 <phenny> 00C8: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH GRAVE (È) [...]
13:33:31 <crschmidt> hm, there we go
13:44:25 <sbp> best .sig evvah: http://rdfweb.org/pipermail/rdfweb-dev/2004-December/013891.html
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13:56:56 <Monty> bah, it's sal again
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13:59:12 <Morbus> *** Morbus has changed the topic to: <jcowan> ICH BIN DER JCOWAN, DER GEIST DER STETS BEJAHT || <kandinski> ICH BIN DER KANDINSKI, WO SIND MEINE HOSEN? || 2 More days until Xenosaga II Pre-order (Just called EBGames STOP Got dumb drone STOP Fear worst STOP)
13:59:20 <Morbus> *** Morbus has changed the topic to: <jcowan> ICH BIN DER JCOWAN, DER GEIST DER STETS BEJAHT || <kandinski> ICH BIN DER KANDINSKI, WO SIND MEINE HOSEN? || 2 More days until Xenosaga II Pre-order (Called EBGames STOP Got dumb drone STOP Fear worst STOP)
14:03:25 <sal> heh, heh.
14:06:19 <Morbus> hey sal.
14:06:27 <crschmidt> hey Morbus
14:06:31 <sal> morning.
14:06:31 <Morbus> sup chris.
14:06:50 <crschmidt> nm, almost got a full fledged app for the phone on my hands
14:06:55 <Morbus> heh
14:07:06 <crschmidt> It's not something anyone wil ever use, but it's still a cool app
14:07:10 <Morbus> i'm midway through my second playthrough of growlanser II. working on the other 7 endings i'm missing.
14:07:28 <Morbus> then, i should have enough time to master growlansre iii before xenosaga 2 comes out.
14:15:43 <jsled> .w preceeding
14:15:46 <phenny> I couldn't find preceeding in WordNet.
14:16:07 <Morbus> fucking hilarious: http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3137498
14:16:20 <Morbus> *** Morbus has changed the topic to: <jcowan> ICH BIN DER JCOWAN, DER GEIST DER STETS BEJAHT || <kandinski> ICH BIN DER KANDINSKI, WO SIND MEINE HOSEN? || 2 More days until Xenosaga II Pre-order (Called EBGames STOP Got dumb drone STOP Fear worst STOP) || Mike Tyson was all like, "I'm gonna eat your dogs, I'm gonna eat your kids."
14:17:08 <sal> dammit son im talking to you.
14:17:22 <jsled> "No. The dot is small. I am not."
14:17:23 <Morbus> have you read either of these? i read the first one when it came out. had a grande ole time.
14:17:30 <Morbus> this one is even better
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14:18:50 <Morbus> ahgahah
14:18:52 <Morbus> [[[
14:18:52 <Morbus> EGM: What are you going to say when your kids say Wind Waker looks boring?
14:18:53 <Morbus> Parker: Get out of my house. You're out of my wi
14:18:53 <Morbus> ]]]
14:19:00 <Morbus> that's what id say to my kids right now!
14:20:18 <Morbus> Rachel: I like actual humans better than videogame characters.
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14:21:09 <Morbus> Bobby: It's like, "I'm Willy Wonka. I've created a new Star Wars."
14:21:13 <Morbus> kejkekek'
14:21:14 <Morbus> man alive
14:22:50 <arcon> hehehe
14:23:09 <jsled> Hmm. I'm growing increasingly suspicious.
14:23:24 <jsled> What 10 year old equates mullet = loser?
14:23:35 <Morbus> yeah, i just read that. i think i have a mullet.
14:23:35 <jsled> Or has a concept of a will, and writing children out of it?
14:23:40 <jsled> LOSAH.
14:23:45 <Morbus> heh, heh.
14:23:55 <arcon> oh man, they are insulting adventure!
14:24:47 <jsled> [[[
14:24:50 <jsled> EGM: What's your biggest combo in Tony Hawk?
14:24:50 <jsled> Garret: Something like 956,000, I think.
14:24:50 <jsled> EGM: What's your highest combo in 720?
14:24:52 <jsled> Parker: Like three points.
14:24:54 <jsled> ]]]
14:24:56 <Morbus> Sweet
14:25:52 <jsled> "Rachel: (after some frustration with the controls) I don't think I will do very well on my driver's license test." <-- supposed to be 11.
14:26:58 <Morbus> that doesnt' surprise me.
14:28:52 <Morbus> ooh, i love galaga
14:29:09 <crschmidt> That's what I play all the time here.
14:30:47 <Morbus> ahahaha
14:30:48 <Morbus> [[[
14:30:49 <Morbus> Parker: Wait. What do Nazi's have to do with it?
14:30:49 <Morbus> Bobby: Because Zangief is a Nazi.
14:30:49 <Morbus> EGM: He's Russian. Not German.
14:30:49 <Morbus> Garret: He's a communist.
14:30:51 <Morbus> Bobby: Then why is Zangief's place a Nazi place?
14:30:53 <Morbus> EGM: It's not.
14:30:55 <Morbus> ]]]
14:31:10 <Morbus> good time good times
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14:34:57 <arcon> Parker: This is insane. This is why you don't do drugs. You make screwed up videogames.
14:35:00 <arcon> hehe
14:37:06 <arcon> [[
14:37:07 <arcon> EGM: Now imagine you've reached the 10th stage, and you're on your last life. Once you die and you put another quarter in, you don't just continue from there-you start all over.
14:37:07 <arcon> Parker: Are you serious?
14:37:07 <arcon> EGM: Yup. When you lose all your lives, you have to start over. You don't keep going.
14:37:07 <arcon> Parker: And you guys back then were OK with this?
14:37:10 <arcon> ]]
14:37:55 <crschmidt> Dude, I dislike games that *aren't* like that now. It's a lot easier to stop playing a game when you have to start over then it is when you just keep playing.
14:38:22 <arcon> sometimes, it just depends on how lpng the game is
14:38:29 <crschmidt> all the classics are like that. Pac man. Galaga. Space invaders.
14:38:35 <arcon> if I had to restart wind walker every time I'd be pissed
14:38:41 <crschmidt> Yeah, I'm just looking to play for five minutes to get some work frustrations out
14:38:42 <arcon> dig dug ;)
14:38:56 <crschmidt> Which is obviously different than a serious arcade player
14:39:00 <arcon> hehe
14:39:32 <arcon> I like it when you can only save at certain times on longer games
14:39:37 <arcon> makes you plan a bit better
14:39:57 <Morbus> i hate it.
14:40:04 <Morbus> i have chances to play games for an hour at most.
14:40:13 <Morbus> ofterntimes, i'll lose that hour if i can't save right then.
14:40:56 <arcon> heh
14:41:10 <arcon> you should at least be able to save within an hour
14:45:37 <crschmidt> Yeah, but you don't want to waste playing time saving
14:46:32 <Morbus> yeah, i don't want to go three levels into a cave, then go BACK three levels to go to town, to go to the inn, to save.
14:46:46 <arcon> true
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14:55:13 <Talliesin_> <jsled> What 10 year old equates mullet = loser?
14:55:39 <jsled> well, all of them, hopefully.
14:55:49 <Talliesin_> All of them, except a perhaps the occasional fishmonger's child.
14:55:52 <jsled> I mean. There are universal truths.
14:55:56 <jsled> heh.
14:56:08 <Talliesin_> Have you heard the song "Cut the mullet"?
14:56:18 <jsled> naw.
14:56:21 <Morbus> .google morbus mullet
14:56:50 <Morbus> .g morbus mullet
14:56:53 <phenny> morbus mullet: http://www.disobey.com/dnn/2003/05/index.shtml
14:56:53 <jsled> .g "cut the mullet" song
14:56:54 <Talliesin_> It has great lines like "get yo' ass down to the barbers/tell him you're tired of looking like an asshole" and the blisteringly honest "the mullet is the reason that people hate you"
14:56:56 <phenny> "cut the mullet" song: http://www.solidrocketboosters.com/transformer/Cut_The_Mullet/7.html
14:57:01 <jsled> heh.
14:57:01 <Morbus> you know, aliases is a great invention.
14:57:18 <Morbus> http://www.disobey.com/dnn/2003/05/index.shtml#001496
14:57:26 <Talliesin_> .g mullets galore
14:57:28 <phenny> mullets galore: http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
14:59:05 <Talliesin_> eh, that's a rather poor cover of "cut the mullet"
14:59:36 <Talliesin_> .g "gut the mullet" "wesley willis"
14:59:39 <phenny> "gut the mullet" "wesley willis": sorry, no results were found.
14:59:39 <jsled> Morbus: is the hair on the top/front of your head short?
15:00:04 <Morbus> no, it doesn't spike up.
15:00:12 <jsled> It's just long, right?
15:00:15 <Morbus> ayup.
15:00:29 <Talliesin_> That's okay then
15:00:36 <jsled> So. Just all, party, rather than the party being limited to the back. No problem.
15:00:40 <Morbus> so, it sgotta be the "spike" look?
15:00:47 <jsled> Business in the front. Party in the back.
15:00:50 <Morbus> http://disobey.com/about/images/facemorbus.jpg
15:00:56 <Morbus> that's the commonest hair look.
15:01:01 <Talliesin_> Doesn't have to be spiky, but it has to be short
15:01:08 <Morbus> sane with http://disobey.com/about/images/facemorbus3.gif
15:01:15 <Morbus> though, no more goatee.
15:01:24 <Morbus> the second image looks more mullety, but its definitely not short up to[
15:01:40 <Morbus> the thing that made me question it the most was the long forehead.
15:01:51 <Morbus> best seen in http://www.oreillynet.com/images/people/morbus_iff.jpg
15:04:37 <DrBacchus> You should get a prosthetic forehead.
15:04:44 <jsled> everyone wants one.
15:05:46 <jetscreamer> hell yeah, i want one!
15:06:02 <DrBacchus> Everybody's got prosthetic foreheads on their real head.
15:12:26 <crschmidt> i just want a rock to wind a string around.
15:15:01 <Talliesin_> Funnily enough the guy that wrote "Cut the Mullet" looked like he had a prosthetic forehead
15:15:34 <Talliesin_> It was a bump caused by frequently headbutting people.
15:19:29 <Talliesin_> oops
15:19:37 <Talliesin_> .g "cut the mullet" "wesley willis"
15:19:40 <phenny> "cut the mullet" "wesley willis": http://www.x-entertainment.com/messages/396.html
15:19:45 <Talliesin_> there we go
15:19:47 <Morbus> http://www.futureofthebook.org/borndigital/
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15:23:13 <Morbus> what's the magick setting to increase the number of mysql daemons?
15:23:42 <JibberJim> draw a pentagram on the floor and sacrifice a chicken, for each extra one you want to raise.
15:23:57 <Morbus> aaah. fuck. i used a turkey.
15:24:47 <Talliesin> Bloody ecletics
15:25:08 <Morbus> set-variable=max_connections=250
15:25:13 <Morbus> default is 100
15:27:39 <jetscreamer> chickens are passe. goats are in.
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15:30:42 <Talliesin> Lot of eating on a goat.
15:31:21 <JibberJim> but it's not very nice
15:31:56 <Talliesin> In Voodoun and Candomble anything that gets sacrificed ends up on the table.
15:32:45 <JibberJim> ah yes, the priests get the good food.
15:33:45 <Talliesin> Whether it's just for the priests or if others partake I don't know. I'd imagine the latter.
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15:37:35 <Morbus> monty, remind me in one hour to think about food
15:37:35 <Monty> Example of correct usage: "Remind me in 15 minutes to check the oven." I understand all combinations of days, hours and minutes.
15:37:41 <Morbus> monty, remind me in 60 minutes to think about food
15:37:42 <Monty> Morbus: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Dec 30 16:34:24 GMT 2004
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15:38:44 <Talliesin> Monty, somehow learn that "one" means 1
15:38:49 <Monty> 00C0: LATIN SMALL LETTER I wouldn't recommend the same) both just couldn't find Zterm
15:38:53 <Morbus> and that hour means 60 minutes
15:38:58 <Morbus> oh, wait, he understands hours.
15:39:05 <Morbus> monty, remind me in 1 hour to think about food
15:39:05 <Monty> Morbus: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Dec 30 16:35:48 GMT 2004
15:39:07 <Talliesin> yes he knows that bit.
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15:51:04 <redmonk> swhack
15:52:31 <Talliesin> Monty, remind me in 569 days, 2 hours and 14 minutes to get confused and try to remember asking you to remind me.
15:52:31 <Monty> Talliesin: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Sat Jul 22 19:03:13 BST 2006
15:52:31 <crschmidt> redmonk
15:53:14 <Morbus> awww. if we're around together, it'll be a momentous occasion.
15:53:25 <Morbus> does monty spit out the date the reminder was added?
15:53:32 <Monty> I play all your strongest signal... is even if we're around together, it'll be the fortuna ClipOn GPS, but still.
15:53:33 <Morbus> that'd be uber handy to have for stuff like that.
15:53:41 <Morbus> monty, remind me in 1 minute to check out your response.
15:53:41 <Monty> Morbus: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Dec 30 15:51:23 GMT 2004
15:53:51 <Talliesin> we'll see at Thu Dec 30 16:34:24 GMT 2004
15:53:51 <crschmidt> Monty: remind me in 1 second to check out your response
15:53:52 <Monty> Example of correct usage: "Remind me in 15 minutes to check the oven." I understand all combinations of days, hours and minutes.
15:53:59 <crschmidt> bah
15:54:04 <crschmidt> the newest version supports seconds
15:54:20 <Morbus> where's the code?
15:54:30 <crschmidt> nope
15:54:32 <crschmidt> he doesn't
15:54:40 <crschmidt> .g reminderbot
15:54:51 <Morbus> that's all he is? how'd he get his fun responses?
15:54:54 <Monty> Morbus: You asked me to remind you to check out your response.
15:54:57 <Morbus> bugger.
15:55:04 <crschmidt> well, that part of him is a reminderbot
15:55:07 <phenny> reminderbot: http://www.jibble.org/reminderbot/
15:55:13 <crschmidt> i don't think monty is distributed as a package
15:55:16 <Morbus> gotcha
15:55:17 <Monty> all the top/front of a full fledged app for stuff now?) -- still, screw them.
15:55:25 <crschmidt> I think he's hacked together parts of various other bots
15:55:27 <crschmidt> Monty: insult me
15:55:43 <crschmidt> heh
15:57:18 <Morbus> http://www.jibble.org/montyquotes.php
15:57:18 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
15:57:21 <Morbus> heh, those are funny
16:00:08 <Morbus> <MrTea> Monty, what have I forgotten?
16:00:08 <Morbus> <Monty> jesus
16:00:09 <Monty> .g reminderbot
16:00:11 <Monty> Amstrad exercise bike?
16:00:12 <phenny> reminderbot: http://www.jibble.org/reminderbot/
16:00:25 <Morbus> .g monty
16:00:26 <Monty> "cut the long forehead.
16:00:27 <phenny> monty: http://www.pythonline.com/
16:00:31 <Monty> hell yeah, it's from address book access via python, you install last?
16:05:20 <Talliesin> <Monty> Amstrad exercise bike?
16:05:22 <Monty> I reckon bricks + muscles = Jenson Button >:)
16:05:40 <Talliesin> Great, even better than the boards.ie custom where "Atari Jaguar" is used on polls instead of "other"
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16:31:23 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp i an now regularly clipping to fort@yahoogroups.com, skeptic@listproc.hcf.jhu.edu, and cz@yahoogroups.com from my dailies. (skeptic and fort get /all/ my clips, but fort is moderated and i've not shown up there yet, and skeptic has suck ass archives).
16:31:25 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on for you when sbp is around.
16:34:02 <crschmidt> clipping?
16:34:19 <Morbus> news clippings.
16:37:53 <Monty> Morbus: You asked me to remind you to think about food
16:38:15 <crschmidt> mmm. food.
16:39:09 <Morbus> thanks, monty, i already called.
16:39:10 <Monty> everyone wants to buy one, or rect?
16:39:23 <Monty> Morbus: You asked me to remind you to think about food
16:39:36 <Morbus> goddamit, monty, CLEAN OUT YOUR EARS
16:39:37 <Monty> eats malaise!!!
16:39:51 <Morbus> MAYONNIASE, MONTY, MAYONNAISE
16:39:51 <Monty> s
16:40:06 <Morbus> NO~ NO S! GODDAMIT, MONTY IZZ TEH DUMXORS
16:40:08 <Monty> Please do not adore noisy bombs >:)
16:40:13 <Morbus> lol
16:40:39 <Morbus> *** Morbus has changed the topic to: <jcowan> ICH BIN DER JCOWAN, DER GEIST DER STETS BEJAHT || <kandinski> ICH BIN DER KANDINSKI, WO SIND MEINE HOSEN? || 2 More days until Xenosaga II Pre-order (Called EBGames STOP Got dumb drone STOP Fear worst STOP) || <+Monty> Please do not adore noisy bombs >:)
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16:41:08 <jsled> hah
16:45:04 <Talliesin> Aobha appears to appreciate Monty Python. If you go up to her and say "Pining for the fjords?" in a high-pitched voice she laughs.
16:45:05 <Monty> C-Howells's ham gropes nasty combs :(
16:45:17 <Talliesin> Obviously she is immediately grokking the genius of the parrot sketch.
16:45:31 <Talliesin> Different Monty, not you Monty.
16:45:33 <Monty> They say that you kiss rumbling dgbot.
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17:02:27 <DrBacchus> well darn it I left my headphones at home.
17:02:34 <DrBacchus> ENOMUSIC
17:02:44 <Morbus> no speakers?
17:03:01 <DrBacchus> No. I toasted my laptop speakers when I spilled mead on my laptop.
17:03:15 <DrBacchus> I've replaced my keyboard, but fixing the speakers would involve pretty much a new laptop.
17:03:23 <DrBacchus> I opened it up, and the entire inside is gummy city.
17:03:29 <Morbus> who's kanzaki?
17:03:36 <DrBacchus> But I'm being economical.
17:03:39 <crschmidt> masheide kanzaki
17:03:40 <JibberJim> ooh, with real gummy bears living in it?
17:03:44 <crschmidt> .g exif2rdf
17:03:46 <DrBacchus> The reflected sound of underground spirits.
17:03:52 <JibberJim> driving around their little gummy cars?
17:03:52 <phenny> exif2rdf: http://www.kanzaki.com/test/exif2rdf
17:03:55 <Morbus> what qualifies him as geniuus?
17:04:10 <crschmidt> His work with RDF+XSLT is incredible
17:04:13 <DrBacchus> o/~ I look fantastic, I'm made of plastic o/~
17:04:29 <crschmidt> I'm not sure what libby was talking about htis time specifically
17:04:38 <crschmidt> but everything I've seen him do, makes me feel dumb
17:04:46 <DrBacchus> JibberJim: and gummy pets
17:07:26 <crschmidt> woot. technorati back up, which means my phone app is working again
17:08:57 <jsled> your phone app?
17:09:13 <crschmidt> Yeah, the inteface to the technorati API that I'm writing
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17:10:24 <crschmidt> It's already got decent python code behind it, so I'm just dropping a UI onto the frontend of an existing app, for something that bloggers will think is pretty cool (even though it's probably mostly useless)
17:10:38 <crschmidt> It's a good tool for me to write a Userinterface in nokia-python and get some feedback on it
17:10:47 <jsled> Ah. That phone. Got it.
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17:19:19 <libby> I'm trying to figure out his xslt for calendar display
17:21:43 <libby> (re kanzaki)
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17:36:34 <crschmidt> whee. got it catching exceptions now
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18:27:27 <Morbus> * Morbus returns.
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19:32:43 <jsled> heh
19:32:48 <jsled> I mean. [off] heh.
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19:46:39 <Monty> Thank goodness, JibberJim is back!
19:46:42 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
19:46:42 <Monty> coo hoo
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20:20:36 <jsled> [[[
20:20:38 <jsled> There are very little things that deserve to be called Evil. If a senior citizen is taking a nap outside his house on a sunny day and you kick him in the groin - that’s Evil. Most other things are bad or neutral.
20:20:44 <jsled> ]]] - http://blog.kowalczyk.info/archives/2004/12/29/google-we-take-it-all-give-nothing-back/
20:20:55 <jsled> heh
20:22:47 <Arnia> Vicious post...
20:37:40 <Morbus> anyone use gimp in here?
20:37:59 <jsled> from time to time.
20:38:20 <Morbus> know if it reads the layers of a photoshop doc, or if it flattens 'em?
20:38:25 <jsled> no
20:38:37 <jsled> E_NOCLUE.
20:39:09 <MoiraA> lol, just read that
20:39:13 <MoiraA> it's good
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20:50:06 <redmonk> lalalala o==~~
20:50:21 <redmonk> ^-- karoake ascii art
20:50:33 <redmonk> oh, and like, hi all
20:50:46 <Morbus> nice
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21:48:11 <Monty> hi JibberJim, how ya doing?
21:48:14 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
21:48:17 <Monty> alarming bedroom plays with first-class cogs.
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22:06:24 <lostbuffer> heya
22:06:55 <crschmidt> Welcome to #swhack, lostbuffer, home of the publicly logged and the brave (watch out for Morbus, he bites)
22:07:00 <crschmidt> For more information, see swhack.com
22:07:35 <Morbus> * Morbus sniffs the air.
22:07:40 <Morbus> I SMELL PHEROMONES.
22:08:06 <lostbuffer> ?
22:09:27 <Morbus> anyways, this chan is less about phiral security/hacking and more about PHEROMONES.
22:09:34 <crschmidt> indeed
22:09:45 <crschmidt> and goateating too, I think
22:09:52 <Morbus> LA CHUPACABRA!
22:09:57 <Morbus> LIIIVEES.
22:10:04 <lostbuffer> lol
22:10:53 <lostbuffer> i'm not new here
22:10:59 <lostbuffer> i ben here couple times
22:11:02 <lostbuffer> :)
22:11:34 <Morbus> monty, know how lostbuffer is?
22:11:34 <Monty> Tell me more about that.
22:11:41 <Morbus> monty, no, no, you tell me. recognize him?
22:11:45 <Monty> so, it amazing but as i thought, maybe, site is 10EUR for your life much in
22:12:10 <Morbus> hmm. monty suggests we should charge you 10EUR for your re-entry.
22:12:11 <Monty> 70e or 1.9GHz/2.1Ghz
22:12:58 <JibberJim> 70 euro now Morbus, still Monty knows best
22:13:14 <Morbus> heh, heh.
22:13:23 <JibberJim> now even Monty is scared of being logged!
22:13:25 <Monty> they've had similar troubles
22:13:26 <lostbuffer> i am friend of MoiraA
22:13:42 <Morbus> oh, right, right.
22:13:47 <Morbus> hey, listen, you ever watch her swim?
22:13:51 <Morbus> is she, uh, how do I say, HAWT?
22:14:05 <MoiraA> hello
22:14:13 <MoiraA> hiya lostbuffer
22:14:19 <lostbuffer> heya
22:14:26 <lostbuffer> :)
22:14:36 <MoiraA> I noticed mirc flash :)
22:14:45 <MoiraA> busy battling with Access :/
22:14:45 <Morbus> * Morbus points.
22:14:47 <Morbus> not me!
22:14:48 <lostbuffer> how u doin MoiraA ?
22:14:53 <MoiraA> fed up
22:15:05 <lostbuffer> why?
22:15:05 <MoiraA> you any good at calculated fields in query design?
22:15:22 <MoiraA> I'm doing a mock paper and I just got stuck on 3 questions in a row
22:15:55 <lostbuffer> nope
22:16:06 <lostbuffer> sorry
22:16:17 <MoiraA> I can't do this
22:16:29 <MoiraA> and there's a couple more weeks till classes resume
22:16:33 <Morbus> MoiraA: i have an idea. let's dance!
22:16:37 <lostbuffer> yes you can
22:16:39 <MoiraA> best suggestion yet
22:16:40 <Morbus> lostbuffer: queue me some music!
22:16:45 <Morbus> crschmidt: lights!
22:16:51 <Morbus> JibberJim: action!
22:16:52 <lostbuffer> just keep at it you will get it
22:17:00 <Morbus> MoiraA: COMMENCE SWAYING OF ZE HIPS
22:17:30 <MoiraA> think I might as well move on actually
22:17:35 <MoiraA> * MoiraA sways
22:17:52 <MoiraA> unfortunately winamp is currently playing "It's a Heartache"
22:17:59 <MoiraA> by Dionne Warwick :)
22:18:42 <lostbuffer> all my music in on my esternal hard drive and vnc'd to my linux box working on my cisco router
22:20:00 <lostbuffer> i should jus use null modem to console but oh well
22:20:02 <MoiraA> hah! another frustration
22:20:17 <MoiraA> trying to get mandrake to save data on my memory stick
22:20:45 <MoiraA> fs I'm the root admin and I don't have the necessary permissions to save anywhere but my home directory
22:22:03 <lostbuffer> hehe
22:25:35 <lostbuffer> use openbsd
22:29:33 <Morbus> lostbuffer: http://disobey.com/d/lists/albums
22:29:45 <Morbus> that's my list of music. i post that link to anyone who even mentions music.
22:29:53 <Morbus> just because I like to ego over the size of my collection and the anality of my cataloguing.
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22:44:23 <Morbus> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5546966725
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23:56:25 <eaon> * eaon roars
23:57:21 <jsled> * jsled grumbles
23:57:45 <jsled> WTF does a graphing library need to be based on a plugin system?
23:57:53 <jsled> * jsled kicks gnumeric
