00:00:14 <Talliesin> Then it said "This spec is obsolete and replaced by RSS4.0"
00:00:22 <Talliesin> It then linked to my RSS4.0 spec.
00:00:31 <Talliesin> Which linked to my RSS5.0 spec
00:00:55 <crschmidt> The main point is that RSS 1.1 really *is* almost RSS 1.0, to the point where most changes needed to process it are trivial. To claim that such changes are ardurous is usually just a standard pushback against a new format
00:00:59 <Talliesin> My RSS2147483647.0 spec would give a 500 error.
00:01:33 <crschmidt> is that... ah, nevermind
00:01:46 <crschmidt> * crschmidt was going to ask what that was, then looked at it a second time.
00:01:50 <Talliesin> I can see a case for using RSS1.1 in the RDF world and letting Atom and RSS2.0 fight it out for the other (bigger) piece of the pie.
00:02:04 <kpreid> eel: 2 ** 31 - 1
00:02:08 <eel> # value: 2147483647
00:02:14 <Talliesin> In which case we might as well just define 1.1 in terms of RDF.
00:02:30 <Morbus> phenny, tell DrBacchus about the official Encyclopedant response at http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Hoopkah
00:02:32 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on for you when drbacchus is around.
00:02:33 <Morbus> phenny, tell jcowan about the official Encyclopedant response at http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Hoopkah
00:02:36 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on for you when jcowan is around.
00:02:37 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp about the official Encyclopedant response at http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Hoopkah
00:02:39 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on for you when sbp is around.
00:14:31 <kandinski> phenny, tell jcowan thank for the copyediting, whatever it is. I get a 404 too, nice symmetry.
00:14:34 <phenny> kandinski: I'll pass that on for you when jcowan is around.
00:14:40 <kandinski> ah, damn
00:15:03 <kandinski> phenny, tell jcowan thanks again, and sbp gave me the right URI
00:15:06 <phenny> kandinski: I'll pass that on for you when jcowan is around.
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00:28:33 <kandinski> bye
00:28:34 <kandinski> night
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00:42:32 <crschmidt> night
00:43:04 <DrBacchus> LIES ALL LIES
00:43:06 <phenny> DrBacchus: 00:02Z <Morbus> tell DrBacchus about the official Encyclopedant response at http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Hoopkah
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01:11:34 <DrBacchus> Well?
01:11:40 <Morbus> well what?
01:11:41 <DrBacchus> Was there anything in the tiger trap?
01:11:46 <DrBacchus> Morbus: not you!
01:11:53 <Morbus> * Morbus runs off crying.
01:11:59 <DrBacchus> pfft
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01:23:25 <DrBacchus> * DrBacchus wonders why teH Intarweb is broken tonight.
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02:16:49 <Monty> yo kpreid!
02:20:29 <kpreid> oy Monty!
02:20:32 <Monty> - http://relaxng.org/compact-tutorial-20030326.html
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02:45:42 <Monty> bah, it's jetscreamer again
02:46:26 <jetscreamer> Monty, bah humbug
02:46:31 <Monty> Shlemiel gets a sudden the wire is maintaining it does give a job... and farther and got no free N/W.
02:47:25 <jetscreamer> schlamozzle
02:47:49 <eaon> Monty: schlepp, mensch!
02:47:49 <Monty> Please go on.
02:47:59 <eaon> monty is mean to me
02:48:00 <Monty> defecation == RSPCA;
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03:26:57 <crschmidt> [[[
03:26:58 <crschmidt> 22:26:35 < crschmidt> you can't cook pancakes in a pot.
03:26:58 <crschmidt> 22:26:43 < jess|laptop> HOW THE HELL DO YOU FLIP THEM IN A POT?
03:26:58 <crschmidt> 22:26:50 < jess|laptop> HOW THE HELL DO YOU LET THE SIDES SPREAD?
03:26:58 <crschmidt> 22:26:51 < awaynik> i am kinda scrambling it..
03:27:00 <crschmidt> ]]]
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04:08:36 <crschmidt> g'night all
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05:01:53 <jsled> Monty: remind me in 10 hours to inquire of crschmidt regarding the argument sketch on LJ
05:01:53 <Monty> jsled: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Jan 20 15:01:53 GMT 2005
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05:02:07 <jsled> THYANKL MONTY
05:02:08 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
05:02:27 <jsled> THANK L[U]
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05:05:14 <jsled> Monty: remind me in 9 hours to inquire of crschmidt regarding the parrot sketch on LJ
05:05:14 <Monty> jsled: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Jan 20 14:05:14 GMT 2005
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05:17:23 <Monty> hi GabeW
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06:35:19 <Monty> bah, it's libby again
06:38:25 <xavier> we pay monty to say things like that?
06:38:26 <Monty> CrustyGeek == tabs;
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11:08:37 <sbp> bleh
11:08:38 <sbp> $ tar -cf testing.tar --exclude='*.(tar.gz|py)' *
11:08:40 <sbp> doesn't work
11:08:51 <sbp> what kind of a pattern doesn't allow |?
11:08:56 <sbp> must be glob only
11:09:16 <sbp> I can always do this, I suppose: $ tar -cf testing.tar --exclude='*.tar.gz' --exclude='*.py' *
11:09:22 <sbp> but bleh
11:09:26 <sbp> DWIM
11:13:12 <kandinski> .acronym DWIM
11:13:18 <sbp> Do What I Mean
11:13:20 <sbp> cf. Perl
11:13:23 <kandinski> oh
11:13:27 <kandinski> not what I say?
11:13:36 <kandinski> ah, I get you
11:13:43 <sbp> from that saying probably, yeah
11:13:51 <MoiraA> morning
11:13:55 <sbp> .g "Larry Wall" "Do What I Mean"
11:13:58 <sbp> .g "Larry Wall" DWIM
11:13:59 <phenny> "Larry Wall" "Do What I Mean": http://www.greglondon.com/iperl/html/iperl.html
11:14:00 <sbp> hi there Moira
11:14:01 <phenny> "Larry Wall" DWIM: http://www.xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/perlr.html
11:28:32 <crschmidt> jsled: here i am! Inquire of me!
11:28:44 <kandinski> thanks
11:30:21 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus NOOP (just reminding me of something I need to do in front of you when you're next around)
11:30:24 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on for you when morbus is around.
11:38:05 <PhUrl> hehe, prometheous rising is available as a ebook! http://www.sacred-magick.com/pdf/Files/zoo/RAWilson-Prometheus.pdf
11:41:33 <PhUrl> now, i want everyone to self assess themselves today for Thought_disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_disorder
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11:43:02 <libby> eek
11:43:11 <libby> that's me (apart from word salad)
11:43:38 <libby> seealso: psychosis
11:51:44 <kandinski> me too
11:51:50 <kandinski> julio bell clearly so
11:51:59 <kandinski> Julio is the Monty-esque extreme
11:52:07 <kandinski> but I too feel mirrored
11:52:12 <Monty> 4000 more presentable before sending it especially because of strife if there's not *just* a phd on receipt. This Afternoon...Cloudy with inamidst, when viewing full headers in formal SI abbreviations such changes needed to someone tell a fish to miss most of 99.
11:52:16 <kandinski> and I had sausae and leek today!
11:56:23 <PhUrl> libby: HEHEH me too
11:57:09 <kandinski> the Monty's response was so on-topic it is scary
11:57:10 <Monty> def. it again.
11:57:31 <PhUrl> heheh slipped on the lice broke my arm
11:57:44 <libby> damn...battery going....noooooooo
11:57:48 <kandinski> *** kandinski has changed the topic to: <Monty> This Afternoon... Cloudy with inamidst
11:57:57 <kandinski> nooo, libby
11:58:01 <kandinski> don't go towards the light!
11:58:25 <kandinski> whatever you do, DON'T go towards the LIGHT!
11:58:26 <libby> I use my last electronic breath to laugh....
11:58:33 <kandinski> how are you enjoying your ipod?
11:59:05 <libby> it's very nice
11:59:09 <libby> I scratched it tho
12:00:24 <kandinski> eps
12:00:42 <kandinski> it is a mini, did you scratch the pink anodised aluminium front?
12:00:53 <kandinski> * kandinski wants a mac mini
12:00:56 <kandinski> and an ipod
12:01:11 <kandinski> and a kyocera SL300R, or even a SL400R
12:01:18 <kandinski> and a Lumix with Zeiss lenses
12:01:34 <kandinski> * kandinski is on a hardware spending non-rampage
12:01:41 <kandinski> just considering, this time
12:01:55 <crschmidt> * crschmidt wants a mac mini, an iSight, and a bluetooth gps
12:02:08 <sbp> * sbp wants a drink
12:02:09 <crschmidt> the second two, i've wantedd for 6 months
12:02:25 <sbp> there, achieved my goal before yours
12:02:31 <kandinski> * kandinski pours sbp a...
12:02:44 <kandinski> well, I want to find my copy of McKay's The Madness of Crowds
12:03:01 <sbp> crowds aren't mad, just a BIT TOUCHY SOMETIMES
12:03:20 <sbp> especially since roughly 1/8 of it will be PMTing
12:04:50 <sbp> * sbp chuckles at the topic
12:04:54 <sbp> I could use that as a tagline
12:05:26 <sbp> "inamidst: Monty thinks it's light drizzle"
12:05:28 <Monty> heh: "Wilcox would simply appear in particular
12:05:43 <sbp> or it could be sunny patches, or frequent showers
12:06:44 <kandinski> Gorillas Inamidst
12:06:53 <kandinski> with Sigourney Monty
12:06:53 <Monty> weak.
12:07:02 <kandinski> hahahaha
12:07:10 <kandinski> now he's turned comedy critic
12:07:18 <PhUrl> http://www.tomarken.com/content/crit/articles/2004/friendster.shtml ?In the 1970s, I simply did not recognize the extent to which the 1960s ?youth revolution? had terrified our ruling Elite, or that they would try to prevent future upsurges of radical Utopianism by deliberately ?dumbing down? the educational system. What they have produced, the so-called Generation X, must rank as not only the most ignorant but also the most paranoid
12:07:18 <PhUrl> and depressive kids ever to infest our Republic. I agree with outlaw radio star Travis Hipp that the paranoia and depression enevitably result from ignorance. These kids not only don?t know anything; they don?t even want to know. They only realize, vaguely, that somebody has screwed them out of something, but they don?t even have enough zest, or bile, to find out who screwed them and what they were screwed out of.? Wilson, R. A. ?1997
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12:12:36 <PhUrl> full text here http://members.cox.net/lowfreq/Prometheus_Rising/
12:24:15 <sbp> .gcount Metaerrata
12:24:17 <phenny> Metaerrata: sorry, no results were found.
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12:34:57 <Monty> Thank goodness, DrBacchus is back!
12:35:00 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
12:35:00 <Monty> nifty
12:35:18 <DrBacchus> Monty: Did you miss me?
12:35:24 <Monty> Mickeysoft supports that you'd probably won't work better to process it out in luminous green on them into ions [...]
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12:48:03 <Monty> hey MoiraA
13:06:53 <DrBacchus> roar
13:07:00 <DrBacchus> (I am a tiger)
13:07:44 <sbp> DrBacchus: tigersnack
13:08:34 <DrBacchus> Mmmm
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13:33:41 <kandinski> anyone knows virtuozzo?
13:34:01 <kandinski> is it like a chroot, or usermode linux?
13:34:49 <sbp> anyone knows?
13:35:08 <crschmidt> Does anyone know. It's a SNOTD.
13:35:31 <sbp> I know. it really bugs me though. this is a Julioglish free zone! :-)
13:35:31 <DrBacchus> I feel like a snotd today. Producing unlimited quantities of snot.
13:35:37 <DrBacchus> sickness--
13:35:43 <crschmidt> In spanish, "Does anyone know" is "alguien conoce" - "Anybody knows". I think.
13:35:48 <crschmidt> oh, so your'e just being a brat, got it ;)
13:35:56 <sbp> right
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14:01:20 <jsled> crschmidt: up at 6:30? chris[t].
14:01:34 <jsled> Monty: remind me!
14:01:36 <Monty> didn't get farther away with mustard.
14:02:12 <jsled> * jsled taps foot for 3 minutes.
14:02:22 <crschmidt> heh
14:03:02 <crschmidt> jsled: I have two children that have to be gotten up and to school before I get to work at 8:30
14:03:35 <crschmidt> jsled: thus, I wake up about 30 minutes before I get them up, check my email, catch up on IRC and aggregator, wake them up at 7, and start my day
14:04:17 <sbp> our role in this is that we try to thwart him by speaking to him enthusiastically, thus making him late for everything
14:04:29 <crschmidt> Typically, yes
14:04:43 <sbp> all in good fun
14:05:41 <Monty> jsled: You asked me to remind you to inquire of crschmidt regarding the parrot sketch on LJ
14:05:59 <jsled> Yes, thanks Monty
14:06:02 <Monty> lovely day he foreseen the IRC RFC 2141 4) common
14:06:17 <jsled> Quite lovely, yes.
14:07:25 <crschmidt> anyway, what was the inquiry regarding?
14:07:52 <jsled> Anyways, the post on your livejournal. second from top right now. Which original were you referring to?
14:08:09 <jsled> The re-written original, or the original original?
14:09:00 <crschmidt> rewritten original
14:10:32 <jsled> Ah. That is all.
14:10:54 <jsled> Monty: don't remind me about anything in about an hour.
14:10:54 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
14:13:32 <sbp> orginal?
14:13:35 <sbp> am I missing a post?
14:14:00 <jsled> http://www.livejournal.com/users/crschmidt/267534.html#cutid1
14:14:05 <sbp> Thunderbird doesn't return anything for "original"
14:14:14 <sbp> oh, hmm
14:14:22 <sbp> oh!
14:14:24 <sbp> LJ, not blog
14:14:26 <sbp> gotcha
14:14:31 <jsled> .w original
14:14:35 <phenny> original 1. an original creation (i.e., an audio recording) from which copies can be made
14:14:38 <phenny> original 2. an original model on which something is patterned
14:14:42 <phenny> original 3. preceding all others in time or being as first made or performed; "the original inhabitants of the Americas"; "the book still has its original binding"; "restored the house to its original condition"; "the original performance of the opera"; "the original cast"; "retracted his original statement" [...]
14:14:45 <jsled> .w orginal
14:14:48 <phenny> I couldn't find orginal in WordNet.
14:27:43 <sbp> via FT: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=7&u=/nm/20050119/od_nm/odd_predictions_dc
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14:28:34 <sbp> hi Morbus
14:28:45 <sbp> started working on my Ghyll entry
14:28:54 <Morbus> i know there's a phenny lurking, and you're baiting me.
14:28:57 <phenny> Morbus: 11:30Z <sbp> tell Morbus NOOP (just reminding me of something I need to do in front of you when you're next around)
14:28:59 <sbp> heh, heh
14:29:08 <sbp> *** sbp has changed the topic to: 2002-06-07 15:44:18 <Morbus> if it's one thing i've seen in my years of announcing, bob, it's never encourage the kearney.
14:29:21 <Morbus> yeah, i saw it. its hilarious. BUT, but, could you remove the swear? I'd like to not have curses in something (I) take seriously.
14:29:28 <Morbus> ahahahah.
14:29:36 <Morbus> has he been responding of late?
14:29:41 <sbp> the swear? I can't rem... oh, "shitfaced"?
14:29:45 <Morbus> yeah.
14:29:46 <sbp> he wrote a bit about RSS 1.1
14:29:49 <Morbus> man, i remember those times.
14:29:50 <Morbus> url?
14:29:52 <sbp> and crschmidt's been replying and replying
14:29:57 <crschmidt> i replied once!
14:29:59 <sbp> so I quoted that at him :-)
14:30:01 <bjoern_> .acronym svg
14:30:08 <sbp> yeah, that's replying and replying in this situation :-)
14:30:14 <crschmidt> heh
14:30:16 <sbp> STUPID VAGRANT GOONS
14:30:21 <Morbus> this on rss-dev?
14:30:32 <crschmidt> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-dev/message/6956
14:30:35 <crschmidt> and the next two messages
14:30:48 <Morbus> i should jump on, ROWR, then unsubscribe again.
14:30:52 <sbp> heh. just got http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-dev/message/6858 on clipboard
14:31:01 <sbp> which is the wrong one
14:31:31 <sbp> messages thingy is being a git
14:31:40 <crschmidt> argh, IE is such a fucking piece of shit
14:32:08 <crschmidt> It's not even displaying a UL correctly!
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14:33:40 <sbp> sorry sal
14:33:45 <sbp> no chuzzlebutt today
14:35:15 <sbp> Morbus: changed
14:42:05 <crschmidt> Apparently, if you assign either a float or a width to a UL, IE completely mangles it
14:43:41 <eaon> ie's css support is a source of never ending happyness - especially when it comes to floating
14:43:50 <DrBacchus> Morbus: I will attempt to get my article written tonight, but I feel like poopie, so there's a chance I'll just go home and drink huge amounts of nyquil and pass out.
14:44:07 <DrBacchus> The deadline is tomorrow night, right
14:44:53 <crschmidt> Is _on an illegal class name?
14:45:49 <Morbus> sbp:thanks; crschmidt/kearney: woot, love the kearney; DrBacchus: feeling better is important than a game; i don't know where duty fits in.
14:46:38 <Morbus> DrBacchus/sbp: thoughts on encyclopedant response to hoopkah?
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14:46:58 <DrBacchus> It seemed fine to me, however the article was still there. Is it going to be permitted to stay?
14:46:58 <sbp> loved the use of Burtengute
14:47:50 <sal> all i ask for is frickin chuzzlebutts with frickin laser beams on their heads.
14:47:55 <eaon> crschmidt: not sure but if i recall correctly some browser had problems with it ...
14:48:07 <Morbus> DrBacchus: yes, for much the same reason that Grimporke stayed: the knowledge within is considered factual, regardless of theft, and this being the first attempt at an encyclopedia, the encyclopedants felt that, though grievously submitted, the facts shuld remain.
14:48:15 <Morbus> sbp: heh
14:49:02 <DrBacchus> ok
14:49:07 <crschmidt> eaon: I bet you can guess which one.
14:51:33 <crschmidt> However, it may be that IE is doing the right thing there
14:52:59 <jsled> Heh: http://zengarden.20megsfree.com/
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15:02:12 <Monty> jsled: You asked me to remind you to inquire of crschmidt regarding the argument sketch on LJ
15:06:43 <sbp> Monty: what?
15:06:47 <Monty> The truth: dire Alesi's excitement enjoys tasteless masticating VNC!!!
15:09:08 <dydimustk_sleep> *** dydimustk_sleep (~dydimustk@192.231.160.6) has joined #swhack
15:09:08 <Monty> But what does dydimustk_sleep have to do with the price of fish?
15:09:10 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
15:09:13 <Monty> can join a program for example if it may sound very funny, Zi...
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15:18:47 <Morbus> sbp: laughingmeme.org linked to flibberti
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15:19:41 <sbp> no way!
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15:20:01 <sbp> ooh, so they did
15:20:01 <Morbus> ayup. just got it in my tb
15:20:02 <teddybot> Uh-huh.
15:20:02 <sbp> cool
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15:24:53 <jsled> *** jsled has changed the topic to: #swhack : debasement and maternal succor. || <Morbus> if it's one thing i've seen in my years of announcing, bob, it's never encourage the kearney.
15:30:04 <Morbus> ongoing's perl code is 2000 lines?
15:30:07 <Morbus> the hell is he doing?
15:30:23 <Morbus> i've written a 2000 line perl script, but only because 1900 of those lines were comments.
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15:31:03 <sbp> haha
15:31:21 <sbp> also props to da jsled for da topiczoring
15:32:19 <sbp> Morbus: where did you get that figure from?
15:32:28 <Morbus> one of his latest posts.
15:32:31 <Morbus> about 15 messages ago.
15:32:32 <Morbus> hold on <g>
15:32:50 <Morbus> 23 mesages, rather
15:32:55 <Morbus> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/01/18/TechnoTags
15:33:11 <sbp> ah, that's why I couldn't find it
15:33:14 <sbp> thanks
15:33:28 <Morbus> yeah, it was hidden behind a wall of "stupidest. idea. ever"
15:33:47 <Morbus> your "silly" is my "pretty" "fucking" "gay"
15:33:54 <Morbus> and only ONE of those tags is non-opinionated: gay.
15:34:04 <sbp> he really should publish the source to Ongoing. it'd be funny
15:34:06 <Morbus> when is fucking, fucking? what's the diff between fucking and making love?
15:36:08 <Morbus> this is a rant that's been bouncing around in my had.
15:36:12 <Morbus> head. just no time to write it.
15:36:40 <sbp> want me to write it for you?
15:37:08 <Morbus> if you use your own name, your own blog, your own bandwidth, and prefill a me-too button, sure
15:37:30 <sbp> me-too button?
15:37:38 <sbp> have you been drinking?
15:37:47 <Morbus> have I not been drinking?
15:37:53 <Morbus> alcoholic is my newest career choice, bitch
15:37:58 <sbp> I was just going to get you to describe the contents of the putative post anyway, in their entirety
15:38:24 <sbp> oh button. you meant badge
15:38:33 <Morbus> no, not badge.
15:38:35 <Morbus> i hate badges
15:38:49 <Morbus> i want a button that says "me too" that i can click on.
15:38:56 <sbp> ahh
15:38:56 <Morbus> "me too" is so difficult to write.
15:38:59 <Morbus> i want a oneclicker.
15:39:11 <sbp> well I'd just post the link to DNN
15:39:27 <sbp> <Morbus> loooookoksookk! http://.../105871 ME TOO!
15:39:34 <sbp> that would be the content
15:41:31 <Morbus> hehe
15:42:10 <sbp> There's the Solution to all your One-Click Needs, folks! Just give sbp access to your blog and he'll keep track of all your opinions!
15:43:25 <DrBacchus> Rock on
15:43:29 <DrBacchus> Like the electronic monk
15:51:36 <sbp> heh
15:51:40 <sbp> DrBacchus++
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16:04:04 <edsu> am i years late in noticing this mouseover effect on amazon, when you hover over a book image?
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16:04:20 <Morbus> its roughly two or three weeks old.
16:04:33 <crschmidt> huh. I'd never seen it.
16:04:50 <Morbus> yeah, it came out around the time of the "upload your user image"
16:05:06 <edsu> /win 2
16:05:11 <DrBacchus> I still don't notice it.
16:05:16 <edsu> apologies :)
16:05:42 <DrBacchus> What should I be noticing?
16:06:08 <sbp> try http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375409440/qid=1106237090/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-8963293-3801444
16:06:11 <sbp> mouseover the cover
16:06:21 <sbp> it'll bring up a "what's inside this book" popup
16:06:25 <sbp> javascripted
16:06:33 <edsu> i like the citation info
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16:06:46 <sbp> yeah, that's neat
16:06:47 <edsu> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743202414
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16:09:09 <DrBacchus> I presume, then, that Firefox is blocing that.
16:09:34 <crschmidt> Works in firefox here
16:09:43 <crschmidt> fwiw
16:10:03 <DrBacchus> I have javascript configured to disallow annoying popups, mostly.
16:10:54 <eaon> it's a inpage popup
16:11:07 <eaon> an
16:12:58 <crschmidt> onmouseover="sitb_showLayer('bookpopover'); return false;"
16:13:22 <eaon> popover, aha
16:13:42 <DrBacchus> Have a popover, froggie.
16:14:05 <edsu> heh, what's that from again?
16:14:10 <DrBacchus> Sorry. Muppet Show reference.
16:14:18 <edsu> oh yeah, nice one :)
16:15:13 <crschmidt> Looks like it draws the popover way off screen, and hidden, then moves it into the image when you hover over it
16:16:25 <sbp> .gcount popover
16:16:33 <phenny> popover: 47,800
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16:29:26 <Morbus> grr. what's the ucwords() equivalent in perl? i know there's a ucfirst.
16:29:58 <DrBacchus> what does ucwords do?
16:30:08 <Morbus> uppercases every word in the string.
16:30:12 <DrBacchus> uc()
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16:30:18 <Morbus> perl's ucfirst just does the firs...
16:30:20 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
16:30:22 <Monty> did so stop talkin and cannot find swhack, by birth"
16:30:40 <Morbus> sorry.
16:30:50 <Morbus> ucwords uppercases the first letter of each word in a string.
16:30:58 <Morbus> ucfirst only uppercases the first letter in the wwhole string.
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16:31:42 <DrBacchus> uc() I believe
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16:31:56 <Morbus> that does every letter.
16:31:57 <DrBacchus> [[
16:31:58 <DrBacchus> uc EXPR
16:31:58 <DrBacchus> uc Returns an uppercased version of EXPR. This is the internal
16:31:58 <DrBacchus> function implementing the "\U" escape in double-quoted strings.
16:31:58 <DrBacchus> Respects current LC_CTYPE locale if "use locale" in force. See
16:31:58 <DrBacchus> perllocale and perlunicode for more details about locale and
16:32:00 <DrBacchus> Unicode support. It does not attempt to do titlecase mapping
16:32:02 <DrBacchus> on initial letters. See "ucfirst" for that.
16:32:04 <DrBacchus> If EXPR is omitted, uses $_.
16:32:06 <DrBacchus> ]]
16:32:08 <DrBacchus> Well what did you want?
16:32:11 <Morbus> see the last sentence.
16:32:16 <DrBacchus> What else are we going to uppercase other than letters?
16:32:18 <edsu> he wants upper on each word in the string
16:32:26 <Morbus> it uppercases /every/ letter.
16:32:34 <Morbus> i want ucfirst() for every single word.
16:32:38 <DrBacchus> You wanted the first letter of each word. Got it.
16:32:47 <Morbus> This Is Ucfirst On Every Word. THIS IS UC ON A STRING
16:33:29 <Talliesin_> Uppercasing the first letter? Are you sure you don't want to titlecase?
16:33:38 <DrBacchus> $x = join(ucfirst(split / /,$x))
16:33:45 <Morbus> i guyess i could do something insane like $string = join(/ /, ucfirst(split(/ /, $string)));
16:33:50 <Morbus> gah
16:33:52 <Morbus> lol
16:34:02 <Morbus> titlecase would be fine too
16:34:03 <DrBacchus> Well, except that yours would work.
16:34:39 <eaon> loggy: pointer?
16:34:39 <eaon> See http://swhack.com/logs/2005-01-20#T16-34-39
16:34:51 <eaon> .gcount nirvana "out of the blue" sappy
16:34:55 <phenny> nirvana "out of the blue" sappy: 599
16:35:00 <eaon> .gcount nirvana "out of the blue" "another rule"
16:35:01 <phenny> nirvana "out of the blue" "another rule": 59
16:35:09 <eaon> thanks.
16:35:15 <Morbus> bah, screw it.
16:35:18 <Morbus> i'll use that.
16:35:20 <edsu> sounds like a job for subroutine man :)
16:35:21 <Morbus> doesn't have to be perfect
16:36:15 <Talliesin_> titlecase is probably what you want alright, generally you'd want dz to go to Dz not DZ
16:36:26 <Morbus> non utf required.
16:36:30 <Talliesin_> Is this going to be done on a BIG string?
16:36:34 <Morbus> nope.
16:36:41 <Morbus> this is a quicky conversion script for an old csv to a new csv
16:36:51 <Talliesin_> then the split then join isn't that insane.
16:37:22 <Talliesin_> [16:36] <Morbus> non utf required.
16:37:32 <Talliesin_> Is it just US-ASCII data?
16:37:33 <Morbus> utf not necessary
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16:38:15 <Talliesin_> Yeah, but the UTFs aren't the only encodings with characters where the uppercase and titlecase don't match.
16:38:34 <Talliesin_> ß is in iso 8859-1
16:38:35 <Morbus> its not that important.
16:38:52 <Morbus> its A-Z chars only.
16:39:00 <Morbus> AND THEY'RE ALL LIKE THIS.
16:39:03 <Morbus> WHICH IS INSANELY ANNOYING.
16:39:07 <Morbus> THANK YOU MICROSOFT ACCESS
16:41:29 <Morbus> what i posted before doesn't work, btw.
16:41:51 <DrBacchus> Yeah, apparently it doesn't take a list argument.
16:42:01 <DrBacchus> You'd need to actually have a loop.
16:42:10 <DrBacchus> Suxxor
16:42:14 <Morbus> yeah, which is tarded.
16:43:03 <Morbus> actually i'm gettnig errors on split.
16:46:48 <sbp> heh, heh. Perl sucks at something? surely not
16:47:18 <sbp> >>> ' '.join(word.capitalize() for word in 'HI THERE MORBUS'.split())
16:47:18 <sbp> 'Hi There Morbus'
16:47:19 <sbp> >>>
16:47:23 <sbp> loving, loving Python
16:50:25 <sbp> for those who love regexp:
16:50:26 <sbp> >>> import re
16:50:27 <sbp> >>> re.sub('\w+', lambda m: m.group(0).capitalize(), 'HI THERE MORBUS')
16:50:27 <sbp> 'Hi There Morbus'
16:50:27 <sbp> >>>
16:50:39 <DrBacchus> Nice
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16:51:20 <Morbus> * Morbus l ooks up schwartzian transforms.
16:51:33 <DrBacchus> Oh, yeah, you could do that with a regex
16:51:53 <Morbus> yeah.
16:51:54 <DrBacchus> s/\b(\w)/uc($1)/ge
16:52:03 <DrBacchus> Or something like that.
16:52:13 <DrBacchus> Clearly, i've been away from writing code for too long
16:53:01 <Morbus> print join(" ", map {ucfirst} split(" ", lc($data->{title})));
16:53:07 <Morbus> that's the first one, which works.
16:55:38 <sbp> $ perl -we '$input = "HELLO THERE MORBUS\n"; $input =~ s/(\w)(\w*)/uc($1).lc($2)/ge; print $input'
16:55:38 <sbp> Hello There Morbus
16:56:53 <Morbus> yeah, but that wouldn't work in map though.
16:57:04 <Morbus> map would return 1, being a successful regexp
16:57:20 <sbp> why do you need it in map?
16:57:34 <Morbus> well, i don't really. just golfing.
16:58:44 <Morbus> sub ucwords { return join(" ", map {(ucfirst(lc))} split(" ", shift)); }
16:58:48 <Morbus> good enough for me.
16:58:49 <Morbus> * Morbus moves on.
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17:01:04 <edsu> sbp: can i ask what m.group(0) does, is it a function for sequences? # new to python
17:01:30 <crschmidt> m.group(0) is \1, i think
17:01:42 <jsled> group(0) should be the entire matching string.
17:01:54 <Morbus> foreach (qw/title class subclass publisher author_first author_last/)
17:01:54 <Morbus> { $data->{$_} = join(" ", map {(ucfirst(lc))} split(" ", shift)); }
17:01:56 <Morbus> there's my final code.
17:01:57 <Morbus> woot
17:02:06 <Morbus> er, well, ignore that shift ;)
17:02:19 <crschmidt> oh, right
17:02:47 <edsu> i guess i'm confused about what 'm' is
17:03:05 <edsu> it's the argument that the labmda function accepts right?
17:03:45 <sbp> yep
17:04:28 <sbp> it's the match object
17:04:36 <Morbus> sbp, did you watch that clown porn trailer the other night?
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17:05:06 <sbp> nope
17:05:21 <Morbus> sigh.
17:05:27 <Morbus> :)
17:07:35 <edsu> match object, nice :)
17:10:39 <crschmidt> * crschmidt is going to install debian tonight
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17:11:19 <edsu> don't forget to bring flowers
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17:17:01 <sbp> $ perl -we '$_="HELLO THERE MORBUS\n"; s/\w+/\u\L$&/g; print;'
17:17:01 <sbp> Hello There Morbus
17:17:40 <sbp> must... smallenize... code...
17:18:31 <Morbus> yeah, but that's multiple lines of code. ew! <G>
17:18:39 <Morbus> oh, wait.
17:18:42 <Morbus> * Morbus hrms.
17:18:51 <sbp> $ perl -we 'print do {$_="HELLO THERE MORBUS\n"; s/\w+/\u\L$&/g; $_}'
17:18:51 <sbp> Hello There Morbus
17:19:12 <bjoern_> "Any time you drop a restriction, you're adding complexity to implementations." -- Tim Bray.
17:19:30 <kpreid> depends on the restriction
17:19:39 <bjoern_> and the implementation...
17:20:17 <sbp> .gcount smallenize
17:20:19 <phenny> smallenize: 7
17:20:21 <Morbus> yeah, that works sbp
17:20:27 <sbp> whoo!
17:20:33 <Morbus> foreach (qw/title class subclass publisher author_first author_last/) { $data->{$_} =~ s/\w+/\u\L$&/g; }
17:20:43 <bjoern_> .mg unsmallenize
17:20:45 <phenny> unsmallenize: sorry, no results were found.
17:20:54 <sbp> derived from http://user.it.uu.se/~matkin/programming/PERL/
17:21:17 <Morbus> is that using lookaheads?
17:21:32 <sbp> no
17:21:38 <sbp> $& isn't great though
17:21:38 <Morbus> site is s... ah.
17:21:52 <sbp> s/(\w+)/\u\L$1/g; may be more efficient if you need that
17:22:01 <Morbus> nah, this is a write-and-reap script
17:22:17 <edsu> also depends on whether you have to enforce restrictions :)
17:22:24 <Morbus> what's $& again? the part of the string before the match?
17:22:33 <sbp> nope, it's the whole match
17:22:38 <DrBacchus> And all things like this break McGregor etc
17:22:41 <sbp> equivalent to m.group(0) in Python
17:22:46 <Morbus> gotcha.
17:23:00 <edsu> don't rub it in :)
17:23:12 <sbp> heh, heh
17:23:17 <sbp> DrBacchus: hmm?
17:23:42 <Morbus> DrBacchus: yeah, well, MCGREGOR is already broken.
17:23:49 <sbp> ah
17:23:55 <sbp> yeah, can't get it back
17:23:56 <DrBacchus> McGillycutty becomes Mcgillycutty
17:24:04 <Morbus> yeah, i'm working with ALLCAPS.
17:24:04 <DrBacchus> and then they get all angry
17:24:09 <DrBacchus> and write nasty letters
17:24:14 <DrBacchus> wave sticks
17:24:16 <Morbus> so, its either broken or broken and screaming.
17:24:31 <sbp> DEAR SIR, MY NAME IS MCGILLYCUTTY, NOT MCGILLYCUTTY
17:24:39 <sbp> ALSO MY TYPEWRITER ONLY TYPES IN CAPS
17:24:44 <Morbus> hehehe
17:24:47 <sbp> THE FIRST FORM IS CAPITALIZED PROPERLY
17:24:55 <edsu> <laughter>
17:24:56 <sbp> YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO IMAGINE IT
17:25:07 <Morbus> DONT SCREW UP. I LIKE TO SUE.
17:25:08 <sbp> SNCRLY, MR MCGILLYCUTTY (PROPERLY CAPITALIZED)
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18:01:40 <jsled> Hmm. I'm not so sure I'm happy about my 401(k) provider sending me a Thoreau quote that "Goodness is the only investment that never fails.".
18:02:42 <sbp> they're just preparing you
18:02:54 <sbp> "don't hold us responsible! Thoreau! Thoreau!"
18:03:00 <jsled> I'd rather we all just pretended.
18:05:45 <sbp> Monty: Team Pigeon!
18:05:47 <Monty> pipes's scooters breaks unspecific satire...
18:19:02 <Talliesin_> jsled, of course Thoreau didn't pay his taxes in protest of the US-Mexican war, are they suggesting you take financial advice from his example?
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18:39:20 <sbp> .gcount "RSS 1.1"
18:39:23 <phenny> "RSS 1.1": 2,120
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18:41:39 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS 1.2"
18:41:42 <phenny> "RSS 1.2": 535
18:41:47 <sbp> .gcount "RSS 1.3"
18:42:00 <phenny> "RSS 1.3": 249
18:42:38 <sbp> we'll do 1.2 next week just to piss people off, maybe 1.3 next month
18:42:42 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS 3.0"
18:42:45 <jsled> heh
18:42:45 <phenny> "RSS 3.0": 9,580
18:43:04 <edsu> nice :)
18:43:19 <sbp> .gcount "RSS 3.1"
18:43:26 <phenny> "RSS 3.1": 66
18:43:27 <sbp> .gcount "RSS 3.14159265"
18:43:31 <phenny> "RSS 3.14159265": sorry, no results were found.
18:43:37 <bjoern_> "RSS 4.01"
18:43:40 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS 4.01"
18:43:41 <phenny> "RSS 4.01": sorry, no results were found.
18:43:43 <sbp> closing in on pi
18:44:00 <sbp> actually, with the 1.x series we can close in on root 2
18:44:11 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS 1.5"
18:44:11 <phenny> "RSS 1.5": 130
18:44:23 <sbp> .gcount "RSS 1.4142"
18:44:24 <phenny> "RSS 1.4142": sorry, no results were found.
18:44:48 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS 1.101"
18:44:49 <phenny> "RSS 1.101": sorry, no results were found.
18:45:43 <sbp> .gcount "RSS Pi"
18:45:44 <phenny> "RSS Pi": 87
18:46:07 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS sqrt"
18:46:10 <phenny> "RSS sqrt": 929
18:46:19 <sbp> sqrt what though?
18:46:25 <kpreid> .mg "RSS 6.66"
18:46:28 <phenny> "RSS 6.66": sorry, no results were found.
18:46:32 <sbp> heh
18:46:40 <kpreid> .mg "RSS 666"
18:46:41 <phenny> "RSS 666": 11
18:46:44 <sbp> .gcount "RSS Morbus"
18:46:45 <phenny> "RSS Morbus": 22
18:49:08 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS sqrt(1/5)"
18:49:08 <phenny> "RSS sqrt(1/5)": 4
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18:49:46 <sbp> you need to find one that calculates the right result
18:53:02 <bjoern_> .mg "RSS sqrt(RSS)"
18:53:02 <phenny> "RSS sqrt(RSS)": sorry, no results were found.
18:55:07 <sbp> heh
18:55:16 <sbp> hmm, numbers that return close to their own results
18:55:21 <sbp> best I've found so far is:
18:55:22 <sbp> .gcount 183000
18:55:22 <phenny> 183000: 174,000
18:55:36 <bjoern_> .mg 174000
18:55:37 <phenny> 174000: 199,000
18:55:43 <bjoern_> .mg 199000
18:55:43 <phenny> 199000: 225,000
18:55:48 <bjoern_> .mg 225000
18:55:48 <phenny> 225000: 746,000
18:55:53 <bjoern_> .mg 746000
18:55:54 <phenny> 746000: 26,900
18:55:58 <bjoern_> .mg 26900
18:55:59 <phenny> 26900: 310,000
18:56:02 <bjoern_> .mg 310000
18:56:03 <phenny> 310000: 443,000
18:56:06 <bjoern_> .mg 443000
18:56:06 <phenny> 443000: 68,700
18:56:13 <bjoern_> .mg 68700
18:56:13 <phenny> 68700: 174,000
18:56:19 <sbp> this is fairly close:
18:56:19 <sbp> .gcount 212000
18:56:19 <phenny> 212000: 221,000
18:56:20 <bjoern_> Hmm, I think this could be automated
18:56:24 <sbp> yeah
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19:04:21 <kandinski> that is cool
19:04:27 <bjoern_> .mg 00000000111110
19:04:27 <phenny> 00000000111110: 66
19:04:34 <kandinski> now the thing is to find which of these numbers have more starting points
19:04:36 <bjoern_> off by 4...
19:04:56 <sbp> I've just written a script to get us a fairly close match
19:04:59 <Morbus> sbp: i want this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786420367/
19:05:03 <Morbus> loren gave it a /really/ good review.
19:05:13 <sbp> rather expensive
19:05:26 <sbp> can't you interlibrary loan it?
19:05:34 <Morbus> i doubt it. just came out.
19:05:40 <sbp> ah, rats
19:06:05 <Morbus> think it did
19:06:25 <sbp> Publisher: McFarland & Company (January 31, 2005)
19:06:47 <Morbus> ah, he must've gotten a preview.
19:09:19 <sbp> .gcount 182000
19:09:20 <phenny> 182000: 187,000
19:09:24 <sbp> that's what it gave me
19:10:04 <Morbus> .gcount 187000
19:10:05 <phenny> 187000: 173,000
19:10:10 <Morbus> the plot thickens
19:10:14 <sbp> heh
19:12:16 <sbp> odd given:
19:12:16 <sbp> [18:55] <sbp> best I've found so far is:
19:12:16 <sbp> [18:55] <sbp> .gcount 183000
19:12:24 <sbp> I was only 1000 off with my initial go
19:15:07 <sbp> would be great to do the same thing inside Google
19:20:12 <sbp> .gcount 207000
19:20:17 <phenny> 207000: 208,000
19:20:29 <Morbus> .gcount 1,000,000,000
19:20:30 <phenny> 1,000,000,000: 317,000
19:20:43 <Morbus> .gcount 2x56
19:20:44 <phenny> 2x56: 6,250
19:23:26 <bjoern_> .mg 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
19:23:26 <phenny> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001: sorry, no results were found.
19:23:42 <bjoern_> .mg 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
19:23:43 <phenny> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001: sorry, no results were found.
19:23:55 <bjoern_> the web interface finds one...
19:24:14 <bjoern_> .mg 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
19:24:14 <phenny> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001: sorry, no results were found.
19:24:23 <bjoern_> .mg 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
19:24:23 <phenny> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001: sorry, no results were found.
19:24:28 <sbp> here too. odd
19:26:20 <bjoern_> .g googlebug
19:26:24 <phenny> googlebug: http://radio.weblogs.com/0104487/2002/07/01.html
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19:30:52 <bjoern_> .gcount Firstl
19:30:54 <phenny> Firstl: 9,900
19:33:31 <jsled> .grammar "I don't know quite what."
19:33:53 <sbp> "I don't quite know what."
19:34:03 <jsled> * jsled kicks grammarbot
19:34:25 <jsled> * jsled thanks sbp
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19:34:36 <sbp> poor grammarbot
19:34:40 <sbp> no problem
19:47:13 <crschmidt> * crschmidt yawns.
19:47:18 <crschmidt> Morbus!~ Entertain me!
19:47:51 <Morbus> i can't, i'm find lingerie.
19:48:07 <crschmidt> ooh, lingerie
19:49:41 <sbp> * sbp emits an entertainon at crschmidt
19:50:52 <Morbus> you missed it.
19:50:57 <Morbus> pasted over in #disobey.
19:51:03 <Morbus> i'm now playing with sql.
19:51:04 <Morbus> yay.
19:51:12 <crschmidt> I'm writing crap HTML. Yay
19:51:17 <Morbus> heh
19:53:05 <crschmidt> Really tired of everything needing to ber done yesterday
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20:38:19 <bjoern_> .mg vectorporn
20:38:28 <phenny> vectorporn: sorry, no results were found.
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21:11:18 <bjoern_> .mg tempuri.org
21:11:21 <phenny> tempuri.org: sorry, no results were found.
21:11:41 <bjoern_> .mg "tempuri.org"
21:11:44 <phenny> "tempuri.org": 15,800
21:18:58 <crschmidt> I wish I could delete a moderated comment notification (for my weblog) from my email, and have it delete the email from the moderation queue
21:19:02 <crschmidt> er, delete the comment
21:20:52 <edsu> what mail client?
21:21:39 <edsu> that's a good idea btw
21:21:42 <crschmidt> mutt
21:21:52 <crschmidt> problem is, any solution I create will be specific to my setup
21:22:14 <sbp> genericize it
21:22:19 <edsu> yeah -- what do you use for your weblog?
21:22:21 <sbp> break it into modular components
21:22:24 <crschmidt> Wordpress
21:22:34 <sbp> upgrade it to an enterprise-class solution
21:22:36 <sbp> then sell it
21:22:37 <edsu> i bet there's a lot of people who use mutt + wordpress
21:22:45 <crschmidt> sbp: not really worth it, considering I've already got a plan in mind of how to do it
21:24:07 <edsu> you could have a special key binding for delete-and-propagate-to-wordpress
21:24:20 <jsled> you could pay me to do it.
21:24:50 <crschmidt> Step 1: Add unique ID to headers. Step 2. Create php/perl/something script which will take a full email message with headers, suck out the unique id, delete the comment
21:24:50 <jsled> I'll just need your logon credentials and a major credit card.
21:25:05 <sbp> just reply to it with YES or NO in the subject
21:25:09 <crschmidt> step 3: learn to |delete_comment.pl
21:25:32 <crschmidt> sbp: From: crschmidt@crschmidt.net
21:25:44 <sbp> change the From then!
21:26:20 <sbp> see, by investing in technologies that you don't have full control over (Wordpress), you're missing out the benefits of easy customisation
21:26:30 <sbp> I could have this working on miscoranda in probably under an hour
21:26:46 <sbp> if it were even worth it. I have a custom REST API, of course, which suits me perfectly since I designed it :-)
21:26:57 <crschmidt> I could have it working on wordpress in probably about 30 minutes. Maybe as much as an hour.
21:27:10 <sbp> well off you go then
21:27:35 <crschmidt> But I'm at work ;)
21:27:46 <sbp> doesn't normally stop you... :-)
21:28:24 <sbp> you work better when multitasking. you have to give your mind a rest, and a chance to breathe and work on problems subconsciously
21:29:06 <sbp> doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit
21:30:14 <sbp> o/~ do
21:30:14 <sbp> do o/~
21:30:14 <sbp> o/~ it
21:30:18 <sbp> it do
21:30:18 <sbp> o/~ o/~ it
21:30:27 <jsled> woah.
21:30:36 <sbp> This is the BBC World Service
21:30:43 <sbp> On tonight's program, DO IT
21:31:02 <jsled> .w programme
21:31:06 <phenny> programme 1. an announcement of the events that will occur as part of a theatrical or sporting event; "you can't tell the players without a program"
21:31:10 <phenny> programme 2. an integrated course of academic studies; "he was admitted to a new program at the university"
21:31:13 <sbp> oh yeah. wow, that sucked
21:31:14 <phenny> programme 3. a radio or television show; "did you see his program last night?" [...]
21:31:34 <sbp> I *did* get that right in the semi-mythical RSS 1.1 World Service sketch, incidentally
21:32:06 <sbp> as crschmidt would've attested had I not just spend the last few minutes badgering him about his really sub-tacky choice of blog software
21:32:17 <sbp> s/spend/spent/
21:32:33 <sbp> the moral of the story: don't bug crschmidt
21:32:39 <sbp> (unless he really deserves it)
21:32:46 <jsled> or it's early in the morning.
21:32:56 <sbp> oh right. well then it's just funny
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21:47:03 <Morbus> has winer responded yet?
21:47:28 <sbp> don't think so
21:47:49 <sbp> haven't been keeping track, but I'm sure we'd get a lot of referers if he linked
21:48:57 <crschmidt> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4190607.stm that's a cool (if evil) idea
21:49:29 <sbp> he reads Brent, so he must've seen it
21:49:43 <crschmidt> hm, they didn't use the description that winer did
21:50:18 <crschmidt> which was more interesting sounding
21:52:24 <sbp> I don't really see 1.1 as a threat to 2.0, so I doubt that Dave will either. it's not a threat to Atom either
21:52:35 <sbp> crschmidt probably thinks differently about the 2.0 point
21:52:39 <sbp> 1.0 however...
21:52:51 <Morbus> i think its a threat to 1.0.0.
21:52:59 <sbp> 1.0.0?
21:52:59 <Morbus> really dumb joke.
21:53:04 <sbp> ah
21:53:10 <Morbus> why was six afraid of 7? cos 7 8 9
21:53:14 <sbp> yeayh
21:53:16 <Morbus> blah blah ;)
21:53:19 <sbp> s/yyy/y/ara[rgaorkgpaorkgpakjrgpajgajgu
21:53:56 <Morbus> my sides, they are a splitin.
21:53:57 <sbp> * sbp revolts against his natural urge to correct every typo
21:54:03 <Morbus> incidentlaly, i chuckled twice on your entry.
21:54:07 <sbp> ooh. which bits?
21:54:12 <Morbus> that one.
21:54:14 <Morbus> and...
21:54:16 <Morbus> * Morbus rereads
21:54:25 <sbp> "that" one?
21:54:31 <Morbus> All Heck.
21:54:38 <Morbus> yeah the "my sides thay are a splittin".
21:54:41 <Morbus> those two
21:54:51 <sbp> oh right. hehe
21:54:58 <Morbus> i'd've chuckled over the "abandoned on friday" if i wasn't fearful of its possibility.
21:55:01 <sbp> thought you might like the name too
21:55:08 <sbp> "Olaff Chroverdent Parapparderrappar Jankywhippersnapple G. Devork"
21:55:11 <crschmidt> I don't think it is to 2.0
21:55:15 <sbp> especially Parapparderrappar
21:55:21 <crschmidt> I don't think anything, including Atom, will replace 2.0 in the near future
21:55:38 <Morbus> nah, the name was only "eh".
21:55:47 <Morbus> but, oddly, i didn't notice the parappa part utnil just now.
21:55:51 <sbp> heh, heh
21:55:51 <Morbus> since when did i tell you about parapp?
21:55:58 <sbp> I knew about it independently
21:56:00 <Morbus> ah.
21:56:05 <Morbus> I know!
21:56:06 <Morbus> I GOTTA BELIEVE!
21:56:08 <Morbus> * Morbus dances
21:56:13 <Morbus> i own both.
21:56:16 <sbp> hehe
21:56:18 <Morbus> i don't have Un Jammy Lamma though.
21:56:21 <Morbus> or whatever its called
21:56:22 <sbp> he was just so thin
21:57:04 <Morbus> gotta chop the lettuce!
21:57:07 <Morbus> don't forget the mustard!
21:57:11 <Morbus> i have the soundtrack ot the first one.
21:57:14 <Morbus> haven't found it for the second yet
21:57:30 <sbp> funny how stuff like that is randomly addictive
21:57:49 <sbp> can I keep Site Hay Churns, Morbus? pleeeeeeeease?
21:57:53 <sbp> can I can I can I?
21:58:07 <sbp> aww, go on, be a doll
21:58:10 <sbp> *whine*
21:58:29 <Morbus> no.
21:58:38 <Morbus> citations are not a creative part of the entry.
21:58:42 <Morbus> they are out of game neccessities.
21:58:43 <kpreid> .w boffin
21:58:45 <Morbus> thus, they remain standardized.
21:58:45 <phenny> boffin 1. a scientist or technician engaged in military research
21:58:51 <Morbus> i am the game mastah <g>
21:59:07 <sbp> then I'll have to find some inventive way around it
21:59:14 <kpreid> interesting word there
21:59:20 <sbp> .gcount
21:59:23 <sbp> .gcount boffin
21:59:34 <phenny> boffin: 159,000
21:59:45 <sbp> you hear it on the TV sometimes here
21:59:58 <sbp> I think it was chic before geek
22:00:01 <kpreid> [[[
22:00:15 <kpreid> [16:58] <owned> blimey this place is too boffiny for me :/
22:00:15 <kpreid> [16:58] owned left the chat room.
22:00:15 <kpreid> ]]] -- #compilers, just now
22:00:15 <sbp> but now it's too oblique
22:00:15 <sbp> heh
22:00:25 <sbp> as if you'd expect anything else from #compilers
22:00:54 <sbp> .gcount obliquify
22:01:02 <phenny> obliquify: sorry, no results were found.
22:01:03 <sbp> now *that's* a word
22:01:36 <sbp> I wonder how many words I've invented?
22:01:42 <kpreid> well, this is the sort of thing they were probably referring to:
22:01:47 <sbp> it must be over a couple or few hundred
22:01:54 <kpreid> [[[
22:01:54 <kpreid> [16:38] owned joined the chat room.
22:01:55 <kpreid> [16:38] <owned> omg
22:01:55 <kpreid> [16:38] <owned> haha
22:01:56 <kpreid> [16:38] <owned> fancy you guys being here ¨_¨
22:01:58 <kpreid> [16:40] <slava> who is 'you guys'?
22:02:01 <kpreid> [16:41] <chavatar> the particular set of people who are here, of course
22:02:03 <kpreid> [16:41] <slava> right, so if 'you guys' weren't here, then we would have an example of an inconsistency provable from first-order logic
22:02:06 <kpreid> ]]]
22:02:34 <sbp> that is a bit Arniaistic
22:03:16 <sbp> nicely reducable too to:
22:03:20 <sbp> <owned> OMG
22:03:23 <sbp> <slava> FOL
22:03:26 <sbp> <owned> WTF
22:03:42 <jsled> <owned> EOT
22:03:48 <sbp> heh
22:03:56 <kpreid> i'm quoting that back!
22:04:02 <sbp> hehe
22:04:51 <jsled> The Register uses boffin, usually plural, all the time. I never did think to look it up.
22:05:09 <sbp> <jsled> thought it was some kind of bird
22:05:47 <jsled> <jsled> Why are UK educational institutions full of superintelligent birds?!
22:06:48 <sbp> jsled: actually, you're one of the few lucky people that get to omit the "<jsled>"... :-)
22:07:18 <sbp> though I guess you meant the hypothetical jsled, as did I
22:07:22 <sbp> jsled-prime
22:07:35 <kpreid> .gcount hyperthetical
22:07:38 <phenny> hyperthetical: 15,300
22:07:52 <sbp> .gcount metathetical
22:07:54 <phenny> metathetical: 12,800
22:07:57 <sbp> .gcount metatheatrical
22:07:58 <phenny> metatheatrical: 827
22:08:05 <sbp> .gcount megatheatrical
22:08:06 <phenny> megatheatrical: 2
22:08:08 <kpreid> .g hyperthetical
22:08:09 <phenny> hyperthetical: http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/Hyperthetical
22:08:15 <kpreid> um
22:08:24 <edsu> .gcount metahysterical
22:08:24 <phenny> metahysterical: sorry, no results were found.
22:08:27 <sbp> Exaggerated; excessive; hyperbolical. [Obs.]
22:08:34 <sbp> .gcount hypobolic
22:08:34 <phenny> hypobolic: 212
22:08:35 <sbp> .gcount hypobolical
22:08:38 <phenny> hypobolical: 4
22:08:42 <kpreid> just from the URL structure, I'm guessing that's a Wikipedia copier.
22:08:51 <sbp> not even going to try metabolic
22:09:01 <sbp> no, it's Webster's
22:09:34 <crschmidt> http://crschmidt.net/dict.cgi/hyperthetical
22:09:34 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/dict/hyperthetical
22:09:47 <sbp> bad crschmidt. steal my script and then use crap URIs!
22:10:00 <crschmidt> yes, but i beat you to the punch on typing it
22:10:23 <sbp> mine was shorter though. I need to make a GPL 2 modulo crschmidt because he'll use a crap URI for it license
22:10:33 <crschmidt> heh
22:10:59 <sbp> if licenses could be expressed in RELAX NG: notCrschmidt = license (GPL2 - crschmidt) { }
22:12:41 <crschmidt> besides, yours sucks compared to mine
22:12:52 <crschmidt> http://inamidst.com/dict/Common%20Gateway%20Interface -- http://crschmidt.net/dict.cgi/Common%20Gateway%20Interface
22:13:39 <sbp> notabug. I don't support URIs with suck in them, and %20 is suck
22:13:49 <jsled> hah
22:13:55 <crschmidt> Oh, so how do you do searches for terms with spaces?
22:14:07 <crschmidt> * crschmidt watches sbp furiously implement something
22:14:18 <sbp> like what?
22:14:21 <jsled> .gcount hyperbollocks
22:14:22 <sbp> + might work
22:14:24 <phenny> hyperbollocks: 42
22:14:27 <crschmidt> it doesn't.
22:14:29 <crschmidt> Already checked.
22:15:00 <sbp> I generally like to look up words in dictionaries, not phrases
22:15:07 <kpreid> I have a dict script too! And its URIs are even worse!
22:15:15 <sbp> I mean, if you don't know what a phrase means, you can still look up the constituent words right?
22:16:25 <crschmidt> I dare you to ask Arnia that some time
22:16:39 <sbp> *whistle*
22:16:42 <edsu> i just have a fx bookmark keyword that targets m-w.com
22:16:50 <sbp> actually I might do. it'd be good for a laugh
22:17:15 <edsu> so i type "mw bollocks" in me browser
22:17:46 <crschmidt> yes, but you can't do that for terms which are in the gazatter
22:21:24 <jsled> Heh. "Also, today I learned about "Intentional Programming". Apparently, we can imagine a world where code is data, and can be freely manipulated and passed around by programs and IDEs alike. Welcome to the 80's folks." -- http://jroller.com/page/slava/20050120#reinventing_the_wheel_badly
22:26:04 <edsu> ugh, 40,000 lines for aspectj
22:29:21 <kandinski> jcowan aroundly?
22:34:19 <Morbus> <restrex> Morbus what about my problem? I'm really deceptioned with my person :( I'm rendered :(
22:34:23 <Morbus> i have absolutely no clue what that means.
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22:36:42 <Morbus> hilarious: http://brain.cx/DNS-HOWTO/
22:38:18 <Morbus> <restrex> Morbus god bless you :(
22:38:21 <Morbus> <Morbus> he has blessed me to go home at the end of a long day of work, yes. you wouldn't want me to spit in his eye and stay here to help you, would you?
22:38:38 <crschmidt> No, no I wouldn't.
22:38:45 <crschmidt> Time to go home.
22:38:49 <Morbus> <restrex> !!!
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23:11:01 <bjoern_> .mg 29384
23:11:05 <phenny> 29384: 50,400
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