00:03:25 <crschmidt> @weather kmht
00:03:27 <supybot> crschmidt: The current temperature in Manchester, New Hampshire is 30 F (6:53 PM EST on February 28, 2005). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 19 F. Windchill: 21 F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Visibility: 10.0 miles 16.1 kilometers. Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 am EST Tuesday...
00:03:41 <crschmidt> Where's my snow, damnit?
00:04:17 <jcowan> It's sleeting here with fog.
00:06:39 <bancus> why jmada'e?
00:06:58 <bancus> why not jmada'i?
00:07:04 <bancus> Assuming that's what you're trying to say
00:09:24 <jcowan> So which is it, peoples? Is the Mighty Stomp of Morbus more a foot-presser or a foot-hitter?
00:09:48 <jcowan> (Actually stomp is a verbal noun, so it's event-of-foot-pressing or -hitting.)
00:12:45 <jcowan> *** jcowan has changed the topic to: mi terpa le banli nunjmada'e pe la morbus.
00:13:00 <jsled> @weather 05404
00:13:02 <supybot> jsled: The current temperature in Winooski, Vermont is 28 F (6:54 PM EST on February 28, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5 F. Windchill: 24 F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa. Visibility: 10.0 miles 16.1 kilometers. Winter Storm Warning in effect from 7 PM EST this evening to 7 am EST Wednesday...
00:13:10 <jcowan> @weather 10003
00:13:13 <supybot> jcowan: The current temperature in New York, New York is 30 F (6:51 PM EST on February 28, 2005). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 30 F. Windchill: 21 F. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa. Visibility: 4.0 miles 6.4 kilometers. Winter Storm Warning remains in effect through early Tuesday morning...
00:13:33 <jcowan> Mist, fog, whatever.
00:13:35 <jsled> Hah! WSW until 7am _WED_. Booya!
00:13:56 <jsled> Take that NYC! Take that Manchvegas!
00:14:23 <jcowan> "Manchvegas"?
00:14:34 <jsled> word.
00:14:35 <jcowan> The wind bloweth where it listeth, anyhow.
00:15:10 <bancus> Heh.
00:15:29 <bancus> The Newegg representative I talked with on the phone's name is "LaTia Youngblood"
00:15:59 <jcowan> The wind blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going. So is everyone who is born of the wind.
00:16:42 <kandinski> vertical hitting
00:16:49 <kandinski> stomping is a hitting
00:17:06 <kandinski> but generic foot-hitting is normally thought of as "kicking"
00:17:14 <kandinski> so you need something for verticalness, imho
00:17:16 <deltab> yeah, I read it as kicking
00:17:29 <deltab> or pushing-with-the-foot, as you might do to a door
00:17:38 <kandinski> what langage was it?
00:17:40 <bancus> lo nu banli jmada'i le loldi
00:17:41 <jcowan> Lojban.
00:17:42 <bancus> lojban
00:17:45 <kandinski> lojban
00:17:52 <bancus> heh
00:18:15 <kandinski> *LNotD), I supose
00:18:18 <jcowan> Stomping doesn't have to involve hitting, though; it can be slow application of pressure.
00:18:25 <kandinski> s/supose/suppose/
00:18:50 <bancus> Slow application of pressure isn't stomping to me.
00:18:54 <bancus> It has to be a sudden application of pressure.
00:18:55 <deltab> slow? example, please
00:19:05 <bancus> .w stomp
00:19:08 <phenny> stomp 1. a dance involving a rhythmical stamping step
00:19:10 <bancus> heh
00:19:11 <phenny> stomp 2. walk heavily; "The men stomped through the snow in their heavy boots"
00:19:14 <jcowan> The last note of the Monty Python introduction.
00:19:26 <bancus> hm
00:19:44 <bancus> I guess jmada'e works
00:20:00 <deltab> partially
00:20:13 <jcowan> You can't expect exact semantic matches between different languages.
00:20:36 <twe> What is it too until webster came along and participate in it. I test everything else is different in the next poor bugger to try to emulate the brain with transistor-based computing!" in the same in all languages.
00:20:38 <deltab> I can expect better than that though, especially from lojban
00:20:41 <jcowan> Douglas Hofstadter has a list of about 30 German glosses for "hard", e.g.
00:20:51 <jcowan> deltab: why?
00:21:26 <deltab> you can keep adding, to give more "decimal places" as it were
00:21:46 <jcowan> True, but that also introduces more semantic ambiguity, too.
00:22:08 <jcowan> Lojban is not intended to be absolutely free of semantic ambiguities.
00:23:03 <deltab> nothing can be, if you want it to say something useful about the real world, afaik
00:23:28 <deltab> but it does make it easier to be as vague or as precise as you wish
00:23:52 <deltab> (lojban does)
00:24:31 <kpreid> * kpreid vaguely recalls a quote, possibly of Einstein, saying something about a theory describing the world accurately vs. <some abstract property>
00:25:11 <kpreid> as in you can have one or the other
00:25:23 <jcowan> kpreid: doesn't sound like E to me.
00:25:50 <jcowan> deltab: You can add more semantic terms to refine a concept, but you wind up with more and more semantic joints as well.
00:26:12 <jcowan> _blanu zdani_ 'blue house' can mean "house which is blue" or "house for blue people/animals" or ...
00:26:27 <kpreid> It was of the form "As far as a theory describes the world accurately, it does not X. As far as it X, it does not describe the world accurately.", I think.
00:27:02 <kpreid> If only I recalled what X was, I might be able to link it to deltab's remark about saying something useful.
00:28:19 <jcowan> Adding a third term to _blanu zdani_ helps restrict it in one way, but it also adds two undefined relationship joints where before there was only one.
00:28:40 <jcowan> You can create compound words that eliminate the ambiguous joint, but only by arbitrarily choosing a particular meaning.
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00:32:45 <sbp> http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200308/r7928_18295.jpg
00:33:09 <sbp> Tasmanian Tiger rumourings going on
00:33:33 <sbp> context: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12394117-1244,00.html
00:34:05 <jcowan> Wow.
00:34:46 <jcowan> Sounds like crap, alas.
00:35:01 <sbp> yeah. the last known one died in captivity in 1938
00:35:47 <jcowan> Someone should design a digital camera that can sign its pictures and then be able to verify them.
00:36:28 <jsled> What, by taking a photograph of whatever is being photographed?
00:36:38 <jcowan> Eh?
00:36:41 <sbp> cf. "The last Passenger Pigeon, named Martha, died in the Cincinnati Zoo on September 1, 1914." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon
00:36:53 <sbp> "The Passenger Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) was once probably the most common bird in the world." - ibid.
00:36:58 <jsled> jcowan: oh, just that its signs the files as it writes them.
00:37:16 <jcowan> Yes. And then having some way to produce a verified public key.
00:37:25 <eaon> the tasmanian tiger "cloning" project?
00:37:25 <eaon> i've seen a documentary about it. pretty sick imo.
00:37:30 <jcowan> In that way you can prove that a given picture is the untampered-with output of a given camera.
00:37:32 <deltab> passenger pigeon?
00:37:43 <jcowan> What he said.
00:37:44 <deltab> is that a lazy carrier pigeon that hitches lifts?
00:37:54 <jcowan> Passenger as in traveler.
00:37:59 <deltab> oh
00:38:04 <sbp> hmm: http://web.mit.edu/afs/net/mit/jis/www/timestamp.html
00:38:12 <jcowan> The "n" in "passenger" is unetymological: it's really just "passager".
00:38:20 <deltab> ah
00:38:37 <bancus> .ety passenger
00:38:40 <phenny> passenger: Middle English passager, from Middle French, from passager, adjective, passing, from passage act of passing, from Old French, from passer
00:38:46 <bancus> good call
00:38:50 <kandinski> *SNotD) "pasajero" in Spanish /*SNotD)
00:38:56 <jcowan> Similarly with the "p" in Thompson.
00:39:10 <jcowan> .ety messenger
00:39:13 <phenny> messenger: Middle English messangere, from Old French messagier, from message
00:39:19 <jcowan> Another one.
00:40:04 <kandinski> *SNotD) funnily enough, those are "mensajero" and "mensaje" in Spanish /*SNotd)
00:40:56 <jcowan> Odd.
00:41:22 <jcowan> Underlying Latin root is "mittere", "missus" > "missaticum".
00:41:30 <sbp> "Starting around 1990 or so, people began claiming they saw strange birds on the Mauritius beaches. Although rumors of their survival have gone on for a while, there is no proof of any living dodos." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo
00:41:33 <sbp> that'd be so cool
00:41:48 <sbp> better than the Coelacanth
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00:41:56 <kandinski> there is a great story by Howard Waldrop
00:42:01 <kandinski> about "ugly chickens"
00:42:09 <sbp> they're related to pigeons
00:42:16 <kandinski> well, there are many great stories by Howard Waldrop
00:42:19 <jcowan> They are pigeons, the world's largest.
00:42:21 <kandinski> but only one is about Dodos
00:42:38 <jcowan> kandinski: have an etymological Spanish dictionary, or URL for one?
00:42:41 <kandinski> well, this is about a redneck wedding
00:42:44 <kandinski> no, jcowan
00:42:51 <kandinski> Covarrubias got lost in a moving
00:43:01 <kandinski> the mythical moving box that had my dictionaries
00:43:17 <jcowan> Arrgh.
00:43:22 <kandinski> and my diskettes with my poetry
00:43:26 <jcowan> Even worse.
00:43:31 <kandinski> and a present from a girlfriend
00:43:32 <kandinski> yes
00:43:35 <kandinski> I lost the girlfriend
00:43:38 <kandinski> then I lost the present
00:43:44 <kandinski> and the poems
00:43:48 <kandinski> so it goes
00:44:20 <kandinski> funny how "mensajero" and "messenger" could be thought as metathetical, innit?
00:44:28 <jcowan> kandinski: I can't remember; did I point you to my translation of a Lope de Vega sonnet?
00:44:32 <jcowan> Indeed.
00:44:49 <kandinski> not that I recall: please do
00:44:55 <jcowan> http://sonnets.spanish.sbc.edu/Vega_Repente.html
00:45:46 <sbp> hmm: "They say it would be impossible to use the DNA to clone it and bring it back to life." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/teachers/literacy_7_11/word/newsid_1853000/1853848.stm no mention of why though
00:46:55 <sbp> bit of a cloning mention in http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,659890,00.html
00:47:05 <JibberJim> because they're too tasty and they ate all the Dodo DNA
00:47:08 <sbp> "There has been speculation that the Oxford dodo could provide good enough DNA to attempt a dodo clone, but no scientist has yet managed to clone any bird."
00:47:19 <sbp> dodos are actually pretty disgusting, by all accounts
00:47:35 <JibberJim> not by my account!
00:47:39 <kandinski> OOH
00:47:44 <sbp> perhaps that's why no one bothers to clone them...
00:47:46 <JibberJim> I say they're delicious, and you can't prove me wrong!
00:47:54 <sbp> JibberJim: sure that's not just a chicken you ate?
00:47:59 <kandinski> you turned the quatrain quatrain tercet tercet form into three quatrains and a couplet!
00:47:59 <sbp> or a pigeon... :-)
00:48:06 <kandinski> petrarchan into elizabethan
00:48:11 <kandinski> clever tricks indeed
00:48:14 <kandinski> goog one
00:48:17 <kandinski> good too
00:48:31 <JibberJim> pigeon.. My friend saw almost bought be a pigeon from waitrose to eat...
00:48:41 <JibberJim> fortunately she didn't
00:49:25 <sbp> wow, the Nicobar Pigeon is so pretty
00:49:26 <sbp> http://www.klein.com/dvk/photos/birds/nicobar_pigeon.jpg
00:49:31 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Nicobar.pigeon.750pix.jpg
00:49:34 <sbp> http://www.honoluluzoo.org/images/nicobar_pigeon4.jpg
00:49:51 <sbp> JibberJim: they have pigeon in Waitrose now?!
00:50:00 <JibberJim> according to fatso
00:50:42 <kandinski> O'Broin's is too perfect for words, though
00:50:49 <kandinski> I think it is the one I would keep
00:51:33 <kandinski> actually, in O'Broin's "rhymes" can be substituted for "words" in line five
00:52:04 <kandinski> "I thought that finding rhymes would be a chore" is a better translation of "yo creí que no hallara consonante"
00:52:16 <kandinski> I think "consonante" here refers to the rhyme
00:54:34 <sbp> hmm. no specimins at all of the Reunion Solitaire
00:55:05 <jcowan> kandinski: not only did it become a Shakespearean sonnet, but line 5 is a slightly misquoted line from Sh's _Much Ado About Nothing_.
00:55:25 <kandinski> ah, what is the original?
00:55:39 <kandinski> it is a very good line, but I thought it was yours :)
00:55:46 <JibberJim> no specimins or any other proof sbp, the reunion solitaire is obviously mythical!
00:55:48 <jcowan> under rather than beneath.
00:56:20 <kandinski> O'Broin's last line is a hack, though
00:56:30 <kandinski> it marrs the effect of the whole
00:56:40 <kandinski> pity,a s he was going very well
00:56:51 <kandinski> why did you change "under" to "beneath"?
00:56:55 <jcowan> Scans better.
00:56:59 <sbp> [[[
00:57:00 <sbp> Once scientists have worked out the key genes that made the dodo unique, they could then create genetically engineered DNA to put into the nucleus of an egg and hatch a dodo-like bird using one of the pigeons identified by Cooper's survey.
00:57:06 <sbp> It would, however, be almost impossible to recreate a perfect dodo, because its genetic code, which survives only in tiny fragments, could never be worked out to a sufficiently high degree of accuracy, said Dr Ken Joysey, a palaeontologist at Cambridge University.
00:57:15 <sbp> [...] Source: The Sunday Times, 21 March 1999, by Steve Farrar - Science correspondent.
00:57:19 <sbp> ]]] - http://home.hetnet.nl/~harrie.maas/speciesinfo/dodobird.htm
00:58:06 <JibberJim> come on, we've only managed to create one perfect human in all this time, and that was by trial and error, surely an inperfect Dodo would be fine
00:58:07 <JibberJim> ?
00:59:05 <sbp> well imperfect to the extent that a single error could totally screw it up, apparently
00:59:07 <sbp> ooh: http://www.encyclopedia.mu/Nature/Fauna/Birds/Extinct/DodoRebuild.htm
00:59:15 <sbp> specific ooh on http://www.encyclopedia.mu/Nature/Fauna/Birds/Extinct/Images/DodoHeadBig.jpg
00:59:24 <jcowan> kandinski: the Sh line is originally prose, as it turns out, so I adjusted it to be better iambic pentameter.
00:59:40 <kandinski> ah, fixing Shakespeare
00:59:59 <kandinski> I got to go to bed
00:59:59 <jcowan> Misquotation is an important part of the English literary tradition.
01:00:03 <kandinski> good night all
01:00:06 <sbp> "An alternative might be to use selective breeding to create a bird resembling a dodo. This would involve taking its closest living relatives, inter-breeding them and selecting the young that most exhibited the traits of a dodo."
01:00:09 <kandinski> yes, I do that a lot too
01:00:09 <jcowan> Especially Sh and the Bible.
01:00:11 <kandinski> misquote
01:00:13 <jcowan> Good night, kandinski.
01:00:19 <sbp> 'night kandinski
01:00:20 <kandinski> but not sure it is on purpose
01:00:25 <kandinski> * kandinski goes to sleep
01:01:58 <sbp> *** sbp has changed the topic to: mi terpa le banli nunjmada'e pe la morbus. || "Quotation is an important part of the English literary tradition." - John Cowan
01:15:54 <jcowan> * jcowan defenestrates sbp
01:20:28 <kpreid> @google fight defenestrate fenestrate
01:20:28 <supybot> kpreid: defenestrate: 2970, fenestrate: 905
01:24:32 <sbp> :-)
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01:34:47 <jcowan> kpreid: I'm surprised there are even that many examples of "fenestrate".
01:35:41 <kpreid> @google fight fenestrate fenestrates fenestrated fenestration
01:35:48 <supybot> kpreid: fenestration: 34900, fenestrated: 8310, fenestrate: 934, fenestrates: 131
01:36:00 <kpreid> aha
01:36:14 <kpreid> * kpreid forgot that "fenestrate" would be an odd form
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01:38:44 <sbp> * sbp writes a summary of the dodo stuff to http://inamidst.com/eph/dodo
01:41:06 <sbp> .gc fenestr
01:41:11 <phenny> fenestr: 3,040
01:42:17 <sbp> esperantoish for window
01:42:28 <sbp> good choice
01:43:32 <jcowan> I suspect that the quagga story is not really reliable.
01:43:46 <jcowan> Stripes are a shared primitive character among equids (horses often have stripes on their legs, e.g.)
01:44:17 <jcowan> Lord Morton's quagga actually convinced no less than Darwin of a false mechanism of inheritance:
01:44:18 <jcowan> [[[
01:44:27 <jcowan> An Arabian chestnut mare was crossed to a quagga (a wild African species belonging to the horse genus and closely resembling the zebra). The first offspring was intermediate in form and color. The mare was subsequently crossed to a black Arabian horse. One filly and one colt were produced. In coloration and type of mane these two offspring showed a striking resemblance to the quagga. For example, dark bars were present on the hind part of the b
01:44:28 <jcowan> ody and the mane was stiff and erect. Darwin concluded, ‘Hence, there can be no doubt that the quagga affected the character of the offspring subsequently begot by the black Arabian horse.’ He felt that the quagga sperm had acted directly on the reproductive organs of the female in such a way as to affect the characteristics of future offspring sired by other males.
01:44:29 <jcowan> ]]]
01:44:43 <sbp> loggy: pointer?
01:44:43 <sbp> See http://swhack.com/logs/2005-03-01#T01-44-43
01:46:14 <sbp> phenny: post dodo - This follows on from a {http://swhack.com/logs/2005-03-01#T00-41-30 Swhack conversation}, where jcowan has just {http://swhack.com/logs/2005-03-01#T01-44-43 mentioned} that the quagga is not a good example of an unextincted animal.
01:46:16 <phenny> Queued to eph:dodo
01:46:52 <sbp> thanks
01:59:52 <BigJibby> .spell bugelby
02:00:02 <phenny> potential spellings for bugelby are: buggery, bejeweled, butcherly, baggily, bagels, biology, bejewelled, Beaujolais, bagel, buggeries
02:03:14 <kpreid> bejeweled!
02:04:05 <jcowan> en-us vs. en-gb again
02:05:43 <BigJibby> colour!
02:06:19 <BigJibby> my css wasn't working for some reason ;)
02:07:06 <jcowan> Americans pwnz0r English
02:19:45 <jcowan> I AM TEH JCOWAN, MASTUR OF THE QUAGGA!
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03:01:44 <BigJibby> twe, I miss Monty
03:01:54 <twe> BigJibby: Monty monty monty.
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03:57:24 <deltab> Feb 23 14:31:38 <sbp> the thing that gets me is that people basically never used "func = decorator(func)" before, but now that the syntax has changed to "@decorator\ndef func[...]" everybody's like "oh well hmm what a cool idea"
03:58:05 <deltab> *some* people did, for example those writing methods to be called from Objective-C
03:59:45 <deltab> and ObjC encourages long method names, which would have to be given three times in defining a method
04:00:08 <deltab> def SomeMethodWithAParameterAndAnotherOne(self, x, y):
04:00:10 <deltab> ...
04:00:50 <deltab> SomeMethodWithAParameterAndAnotherOne = something('xyz', SomeMethodWithAParameterAndAnotherOne)
04:01:23 <deltab> which is error-prone and untidy
04:02:11 <deltab> and it separates the ObjC signature (at the end) from the Python one (at the start)
04:06:28 <deltab> Also when using something such as classmethod or staticmethod which changes the meaning of the arguments to a method, it's useful to know that at the start of the definition
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05:01:35 <bancus> hm
05:01:57 <bancus> How do I tell python to use Unicode when reading file names in os.listdir()?
05:02:03 <bancus> or even reinterpret them after the fact
05:09:34 <deltab> it'll do that automatically if it knows it can
05:09:39 <bancus> yeah
05:09:43 <bancus> I realized that
05:09:49 <bancus> my web browser was just being cranky
05:09:55 <deltab> otherwise you'll have to do the usual bytes.decode(encoding) thing
05:10:06 <bancus> on that note, is there a module that'll make it easy to replace the chars with html entity codes?
05:10:20 <deltab> htmlentitydefs
05:10:31 <bancus> thanks
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10:17:10 <Talliesin> Cloud are you around?
10:19:00 <Cloud> Hi Jon
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10:46:25 <kandinski> bancus, noooO!
10:46:47 <kandinski> please replace the html entity codes with chars back when you have finished
10:46:55 <kandinski> * kandinski likes human-readable html
10:47:07 <kandinski> * kandinski likes human-readable accents and special chars in html
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12:25:06 <crschmidt> phenny: tell jibbler MONTY MONTY MONTY
12:25:09 <phenny> crschmidt: I'll pass that on for you when jibbler is around.
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12:26:43 <Jibbler> \o/
12:26:45 <phenny> Jibbler: 12:25Z <crschmidt> tell Jibbler MONTY MONTY MONTY
12:26:46 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you that Look Around You will be on in half an hour (remind deltab too)
12:26:50 <Monty> Tarek Abu-Esber
12:27:10 <crschmidt> MONTY MONTY MONTY
12:27:11 <Monty> jimh: i finish him a while.
12:27:12 <crschmidt> thank you.
12:27:15 <Jibbler> monty save
12:27:18 <Monty> I just saved my brain to disk; I bet it's bigger than yours :o)
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12:32:39 <bjoern_> Monty: stats
12:32:40 <Monty> I have a vocabulary of 5618 words, 20 reminders pending, 28 outstanding welcome messages, seen 5981 different nicks and I was born on Tue Mar 01 12:25:56 GMT 2005
12:33:18 <bjoern_> Monty: help insult
12:33:18 <Monty> Help: "Monty: insult me"
12:33:27 <bjoern_> Monty: insult me
12:38:21 <bjoern_> Wow, Monty is good at that.
12:38:21 <Monty> Right...
12:41:34 <sbp> Monty: er... it will?
12:41:36 <phenny> sbp: 11:49Z <bjoern_> tell sbp .gc not working in #svg ... http://svg.jibbering.com/svg/2005-03-01.html#T11-51-22
12:41:37 <Monty> I reckon repugnance + bear = energetic belly-button ;)
12:41:56 <sbp> phenny: tell bjoern_ "phenny: gc ..." now so that she doesn't conflict with xena
12:41:58 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on for you when bjoern_ is around.
12:42:26 <bjoern_> how about gcount, etc.?
12:42:26 <phenny> bjoern_: 12:41Z <sbp> tell bjoern_ "phenny: gc ..." now so that she doesn't conflict with xena
12:42:41 <sbp> good idea
12:42:47 <sbp> I'll throw those in again next version
12:42:55 <bjoern_> @sbp++
12:43:01 <bjoern_> oooh
12:43:03 <bjoern_> @karma
12:43:04 <supybot> bjoern_: Highest karma: "sbp" (15), "crschmidt" (5), and "monty" (3). Lowest karma: "supybot" (-22), "sh1mmer" (-3), and "swhacker" (-2). You (bjoern_) are ranked 16 out of 51.
12:43:05 <Monty> HOWTO == dagger;
12:43:20 <bjoern_> @supybot++
12:43:20 <sbp> hey, it didn't lose the state either
12:43:29 <sbp> wow, supybot did something right
12:43:34 <sbp> @supybot++
12:43:37 <bjoern_> unbelievable!
12:43:44 <sbp> yeah. so now it's on -20 :-)
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12:59:57 <deltab> * deltab turns on the tv and sees a woman embedded in a gigantic blob of Marmite
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13:00:23 <deltab> it's just an ad, Monty
13:00:26 <Monty> NBDuckBot quacks at SoundTracker.
13:00:32 <JibberJim> deltab, you're on the pay per view channels again!
13:01:40 <sbp> hehe
13:02:13 <sbp> .gc NBDuckBot
13:02:19 <phenny> NBDuckBot: 19
13:05:22 <sbp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3612706.stm
13:05:41 <sbp> "Spectacled bears eat both vegetables and meat but children tend not to be on their menu" - Heiner Kloes, Berlin Zoo
13:06:23 <bjoern_> "Finally he appeared to commandeer a bicycle ..."
13:07:02 <sbp> good, isn't it? :-)
13:08:16 <bjoern_> best news today were on online ad "click fraud" though...
13:09:49 <sbp> oh?
13:13:25 <bjoern_> yeah, http://news.google.com/news?q=click+fraud+google -- one article most amusingly described how the entire search engine optimization industry is shocked...
13:14:28 <bjoern_> A german article though, and I was already amused by the translation "Klickbetrug" for click fraud in the headline...
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13:49:26 <crschmidt> twe, twe, eggs and twe
13:49:35 <twe> crschmidt: Eggs benedict reminds me how so yeah...
13:50:16 <sbp> "Some scammers have gone overseas to hire cheap labor in India to sit in front of computers and click on targeted links all day, according to a story published in The Times of India last year." - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11017080.htm?1c
13:51:25 <sbp> for all that effort, couldn't they just invest their time in a real occupation?
13:53:10 <JibberJim> I think "gone overseas to hire cheap labour" actually means, paid some guy they met on the internet to find some cheap labour to do it.....
13:53:23 <sbp> ah. heh, yeah
13:54:10 <JibberJim> * JibberJim spends way too much time looking to see how his google ads have gone.
13:54:29 <JibberJim> I guess the time I've spent on it makes a return of about 20cents an hour...
13:54:55 <bjoern_> People interested in good link clicking jobs please search my spam box for job offers...
13:56:12 <JibberJim> * JibberJim wonders what bits of me I could outsource...
13:56:46 <bjoern_> Garage Donkey Care...
13:56:59 <JibberJim> The economist had a good argument for outsourcing childcare - ship your children off to India until they're 18, it costs virtually nothing, there's plenty of English schools...
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13:57:21 <kandinski> heh
13:57:23 <kandinski> I have just read it
13:57:42 <kandinski> Philip Greenspun said pretty much the same thing
13:57:42 <JibberJim> sssh, I'm not allowed to keep him in there!
13:57:57 <kandinski> only he was half serious
13:58:06 <JibberJim> Greenspan has a Donkey in his Garage too?
13:58:09 <bjoern_> uups, sorry...
13:58:15 <kandinski> Greenspun
13:58:21 <kandinski> he used to be Greenspin
13:58:29 <kandinski> but now he is conjugated himself
13:59:02 <crschmidt> hm
13:59:25 <kandinski> come on, groan already
14:00:34 <JibberJim> why kandinski, are we dubbing one of d8uv's marmite moveies?
14:15:04 <crschmidt> .seen test
14:15:08 <phenny> phenny: no match found: test
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14:27:41 <crschmidt> [[[
14:27:43 <crschmidt> Speaking for my self I would not want to look at cams on my mobile
14:27:43 <crschmidt> phone, the pic is to small but more to the point it is not fully
14:27:43 <crschmidt> legal, you can view them in your home but not in a public place,
14:27:43 <crschmidt> plus as you would be recieving pics or video transmitted you would
14:27:46 <crschmidt> need permission from the owner of the source. A person using a
14:27:48 <crschmidt> scanner in public can have it confescated buy the police and I
14:27:51 <crschmidt> suspect the same would apply in this case, not worth the risk.
14:27:53 <crschmidt> ]]]
14:28:09 <crschmidt> Perhaps I'm confused, but this person seems to think that by looking at a webpage in public, you can have your laptop confiscated.
14:28:41 <sbp> what country are they from?
14:28:45 <crschmidt> Can someone explain to me how this is even possible? Perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much freedom from the UK (where it seems he's from), but there's also the possibility he's just nuts
14:29:05 <crschmidt> "bigriff@btopenworld.com" - bt is British Telecom, right?
14:32:01 <crschmidt> just seems totally nuts
14:32:20 <sbp> ah, yes then
14:32:50 <JibberJim> yes they're just crazy...
14:35:21 <crschmidt> sbp: "yes then" to "they're nuts" or "that's true in british-land"?
14:36:46 <Talliesin> British Telecom isn't British Telecom any more, just BT
14:37:05 <Talliesin> "too British, tone it down"
14:37:11 <crschmidt> heh, heh
14:37:24 <crschmidt> * crschmidt only really knows them from all the people bitching about shitty service for internet
14:37:29 <JibberJim> .w continuous
14:37:29 <Talliesin> Well, they aren't a national telco any more
14:37:32 <phenny> continuous 1. continuing in time or space without interruption; "a continuous rearrangement of electrons in the solar atoms results in the emission of light"- James Jeans; "a continuous bout of illness lasting six months"; "lived in continuous fear"; "a continuous row of warehouses"; "a continuous line has no gaps or breaks in it"; "moving midweek holidays to the nearest Monday or Friday allows uninterrupted work weeks"
14:37:35 <phenny> continuous 2. of a function or curve; extending without break or irregularity
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14:38:34 <Talliesin> Meanwhile Telecom Éireann are glad to change their name since American's always pronounce it "Telecom Iran". The change their name to Eircom which American's always pronounce "Earcom"
14:39:32 <sbp> crschmidt: if you think that it was "yes then" to "that's true in british-land" then you accusation of nuttiness was probably somewhat misplaced...
14:39:47 <sbp> now with random r omission!
14:40:10 <crschmidt> sbp: well, I don't know! I've seen lots of crazy big-brother like things about London cameras and stuff like that on TV
14:40:29 <sbp> that stuff's all blown up out of proportion
14:40:58 <sbp> actually I don't get that at all
14:40:58 <crschmidt> Remember, I know nothing about people across the pond
14:41:24 <sbp> right. well the controversy is that we have a fair few cameras up in major metropolitan areas in order to prevent crime
14:41:50 <sbp> and they're used in cases all the time. for practically every big case of crime in the country they're able to show CCTV footage of the person, which often leads to arrest
14:42:12 <sbp> so far so good. but for some reason, civil liberty style activists believe it takes away our freedom to have cameras recording our every movement
14:42:16 <JibberJim> * JibberJim kicks google for not linking continuous to dictionary.com
14:42:21 <JibberJim> google is CRAP!
14:42:36 <crschmidt> 99.9% of everything is crap
14:42:36 <sbp> but these cameras are all in public places, and usually in metropolitan areas as I say
14:42:55 <sbp> so I don't get the problem. anybody could be recording--taking holiday snaps or whatever--and everybody can see you anyway
14:43:14 <sbp> it's like saying that broadcasting television shows takes away the civil liberties of the presenters
14:43:58 <sbp> anyway, thankfully nobody takes much notice of the worries
14:44:46 <sbp> (and on the other hand, you can't be too complacent; National ID Cards for example are just an amazingly crap idea)
14:44:58 <crschmidt> well, i think in the US, you can get arrested for covertly recording people in a mall, for example
14:45:07 <crschmidt> but that's also crap
14:45:25 <sbp> you can? we have undercover TV shows here rather a lot with secret recording
14:45:32 <sbp> do you have those there?
14:45:35 <Talliesin> <crschmidt> 99.9% of everything is crap
14:45:49 <JibberJim> sbp, they can't be shown though unless they get release forms
14:46:00 <sbp> fair enough
14:46:04 <Talliesin> There was a sci-fi writer famous for defending sci-fi against the accusation "90% of sci-fi is crap" with "90% of everything is crap"
14:46:23 <Talliesin> He was asked about this and said, "No, I said 90% of everything is *crud*"
14:46:27 <sbp> Sturgeon's Law
14:46:34 <Talliesin> "But you're famous for this observation"
14:46:42 <Talliesin> "See, i told you 90% of everything is crud"
14:46:51 <Talliesin> That's the guy, thanks sbp
14:46:57 <sbp> no problem
14:47:07 <crschmidt> yeah, i'm more 10 or 20 times as pessimistic as sturgeon
14:47:09 <crschmidt> depending on the day
14:47:20 <crschmidt> er, 10 or 100?
14:47:24 <sbp> yes, it's definitely closer to 99% on the Internet at least
14:47:26 <crschmidt> i dunno. more, anyway
14:50:12 <sbp> difficult to quantify objectively, obviously...
14:50:58 <sbp> we could though, for example, use the Random Page service and rank a set of 100 results for crapness
14:51:19 <sbp> but they're biased towards sites that feature highly on Google
14:51:29 <Talliesin> What, they get a low score if they're not really random?
14:51:42 <sbp> hmm?
14:51:57 <sbp> if we rate them for randomness, sure
14:52:00 <JibberJim> we could view every single page on the internet, rate it for crapness.
14:52:08 <JibberJim> and then get a result that way?
14:52:17 <sbp> yep. but we'd have to get everybody to rate them
14:52:27 <Talliesin> Sorry, my lateral thinking just came made it all the way around to 180°
14:52:34 <sbp> and we'd have get it all to be done instantly
14:52:40 <sbp> heh
14:53:33 <JibberJim> okay, so we employ everyone in the world.
14:53:49 <JibberJim> we sit them down with all the websites in front of them, and have them rate them.
14:53:57 <JibberJim> then we get a result that way?
14:54:02 <sbp> well hopefully they'll volunteer. the #swhack fund is a bit low at the moment ( 0)
14:54:08 <sbp> yep
14:54:11 <jetscreamer> give me a job then if you employ everybody, i feel left out
14:54:23 <jetscreamer> i'll tithe!
14:54:37 <JibberJim> well we need them to do it in a moment when no new pages are being added.
14:54:59 <JibberJim> seen as that moment is infinitely small, they'll be working for so little time that we won't need to pay them any actual money.
14:55:05 <sbp> well it'd be too much trouble to find a way to defy logic such that we could employ everyone and yet not employ you at the same time, jetscreamer, so we're probably likely to include you
14:55:18 <sbp> ah, true!
14:56:10 <jetscreamer> unless i was a nobody... (sniff)
14:56:32 <sbp> .gc jetscreamer, a somebody
14:56:35 <sbp> .gc jetscreamer, a nobody
14:56:39 <phenny> jetscreamer, a somebody: 1,410
14:56:41 <phenny> jetscreamer, a nobody: 505
14:56:44 <JibberJim> ah cool as a side result of the project we could also interview jetscreamer after the event and find conclusively if he is a somebody or a nobody.
14:56:48 <sbp> you're fine
14:56:54 <jetscreamer> :)
14:57:00 <sbp> JibberJim: how would we determine that?
14:57:05 <JibberJim> .gc JibberJim, "a nobody"
14:57:09 <JibberJim> .gc JibberJim, "a somebody"
14:57:09 <phenny> JibberJim, "a nobody": 5
14:57:19 <phenny> no results found.
14:57:25 <jetscreamer> :/
14:57:25 <sbp> oh dear
14:57:27 <JibberJim> well if he rated a website he must be a somebody?
14:57:31 <JibberJim> * JibberJim cries.
14:57:40 <sbp> ah yeah, I guess so
14:57:52 <sbp> hmm, those results are both going to go up one now
14:58:02 <crschmidt> .gc crschmidt "a somebody"
14:58:07 <phenny> no results found.
14:58:11 <crschmidt> .gc crschmidt "a nobody"
14:58:13 <phenny> crschmidt "a nobody": 3
14:58:15 <crschmidt> bah
14:58:16 <jetscreamer> * jetscreamer scrolls up
14:58:20 <sbp> heh, heh
14:58:27 <sbp> .gc sbp "a somebody"
14:58:29 <phenny> sbp "a somebody": 2
14:58:30 <sbp> .gc sbp "a nobody"
14:58:32 <phenny> sbp "a nobody": 60
14:58:36 <sbp> oh good grief
14:58:45 <sbp> at least my ratio isn't infinite though. 30:1
14:58:47 <d8uv> IT IS A MORNING
14:58:51 <crschmidt> heh, they're all swhack hits
14:58:53 <sbp> .gc d8uv "a somebody"
14:58:55 <phenny> no results found.
14:58:56 <sbp> .gc d8uv "a nobody"
14:58:58 <phenny> d8uv "a nobody": 6
14:59:06 <d8uv> OH NO
14:59:11 <sbp> we use the phrase "a nobody" way too often
14:59:26 <sbp> e.g. just then
14:59:37 <crschmidt> "you'd better hope your drapes and carpet coordinate or that's
14:59:38 <crschmidt> a kick to the ribs plus the fagstomping you'll get for pissing off a nobody!"
14:59:59 <d8uv> .gc fagstomping
15:00:01 <phenny> fagstomping: 2
15:00:08 <sbp> who features in that?
15:00:28 <jetscreamer> green&orange for an anti-terrorism website? ... -_-
15:00:58 <JibberJim> tomorrow google will have all of us as a somebody!
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15:01:13 <Monty> lo schepers_
15:01:16 <sbp> ah, d8uv
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15:01:28 <sbp> heh. I read sheridankm as a yiddish swear-word at first...
15:04:52 <schepers_> hi, Monty
15:04:56 <schepers_> wait, is Monty a bot?
15:04:58 <Monty> Iraq's viola touches terrible paper boys!
15:05:01 <Monty> whoever they look like $80 a lot ot be quite fun: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.crypt/browse_frm/thread/b8fca5743b5657f6/ca56e45152423405#ca56e45152423405
15:05:08 <sbp> guess
15:05:43 <schepers_> Monty, help
15:05:44 <Monty> Help: I understand the following commands: help save stats time lookup thesaurus foldoc ignore remind tell whatson random countdown google seen box javadoc acronym weather insult translate paper/scissors/stone calc day define/declare/set
15:05:45 <Monty> Help: To ask me for help about a certain command, try "Monty: help <command>"
15:06:09 <bjoern_> Don't try 'insult', it's awful...
15:06:25 <jetscreamer> Monty, help whatson
15:06:25 <Monty> Help: "Monty: whatson BBC1 - other channels are BBC2, ITV, Channel4, Channel5, SkyOne..."
15:06:55 <jetscreamer> heh... i watch skyone every week :p
15:07:34 <sbp> Monty: whatson BBC1
15:07:35 <Monty> Hold on whilst I flick through the Radio Times...
15:07:36 <Monty> I can't seem to find BBC1 in my copy of the Radio Times, maybe it's under a crumb.
15:07:39 <d8uv> Wordpress named their new pages feature all wrong.
15:07:50 <sbp> under a crumb? BBC1? wtf, Monty!
15:07:51 <schepers_> Monty, help insult
15:07:52 <Monty> Help: "Monty: insult me"
15:07:54 <Monty> terje: but perhaps Talliesin's, which it cures my reserve of fact.' (after a bad
15:07:55 <sbp> Monty: whatson SkyOne
15:07:56 <Monty> Hold on whilst I flick through the Radio Times...
15:07:57 <Monty> I can't seem to find SkyOne in my copy of the Radio Times, maybe it's under a crumb.
15:08:04 <sbp> bah
15:08:30 <sbp> .cp pilcrow
15:08:30 <phenny> 00B6: PILCROW SIGN (¶)
15:08:31 <phenny> 204B: REVERSED PILCROW SIGN (⁋)
15:08:36 <schepers_> Monty, insult bjoern_
15:08:36 <Monty> Please go on.
15:08:58 <schepers_> Monty: insult bjoern_
15:08:59 <bjoern_> Monty said 'me' for a reason...
15:09:00 <Monty> consumes ringpiece >:)
15:09:01 <Monty> scrapes experiments!
15:09:15 <schepers_> Monty, insult me
15:09:17 <crschmidt> @echo phenny, tell monty twe monty twe monty twe monty twe.
15:09:17 <supybot> phenny, tell monty twe monty twe monty twe monty twe.
15:09:17 <phenny> supybot: I'll pass that on for you when monty is around.
15:09:18 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
15:09:18 <phenny> Monty: 15:09Z <supybot> tell Monty twe monty twe monty twe monty twe.
15:09:19 <supybot> phenny: Error: "I'll" is not a valid command.
15:09:19 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
15:09:21 <Monty> lol, we were discussing you not me!
15:09:22 <Monty> home-grown buggered Wowzers is helping overture and keypressed spoon-fed hippies.
15:09:31 <twe> Monty i think twe is not in phenny, and this site is derived from the command is stored.
15:09:32 <Monty> implements terms :(
15:09:36 <twe> Monty monty monty.
15:09:37 <schepers_> oh, that is bad
15:09:39 <Monty> Bill Gates's empirical calculator eats fine aluminium son!
15:10:01 <twe> [09:13] <Sbp> monty, twe said: do not say that for the optional comma from cwm in set syntax (x2), are set members to be seen. Whether we follow threads of disingenuous philosophical rumination that make it easy to take them, and have a supybot.
15:10:03 <Monty> The truth: fights is chalky, apparently.
15:11:54 <sbp> sounds like me, yeah
15:12:47 <sbp> "threads of disingenuous philosophical rumination" - marvellous
15:13:17 <bjoern_> self-prais...
15:13:28 <bjoern_> self-praise...
15:19:15 <sbp> I also liked "home-grown buggered Wowzers is helping overture and keypressed spoon-fed hippies"
15:22:42 <kandinski> co-ordinating, coördinating, or coordinating?
15:24:28 <sbp> coördinating
15:24:34 <kandinski> seriously?
15:24:46 <sbp> New Yorker requires it, I believe
15:24:52 <kandinski> * kandinski puts his hands on his hips
15:24:54 <kandinski> hmm!
15:24:58 <sbp> most others don't, but it looks awesome
15:26:10 <kandinski> thanks
15:26:23 <sbp> no problem
15:41:34 <Talliesin> http://www.irishwitchcraft.com/fd2005 buy tickets!
15:41:46 <Talliesin> Even if you won't be in Dublin, go and buy tickets just in case
15:42:13 <Talliesin> (I'm such a subtle salesman)
15:42:15 <Talliesin> BUY BUY
15:43:03 <DrBacchus> Such a tastefully designed website.
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15:44:20 <Talliesin> I didn't do it.
15:45:37 <Talliesin> Right, I've done my bit to help sell tickets :)
15:45:56 <sbp> looks like a nice hotel
15:46:00 <sbp> expensive
15:46:43 <Talliesin> It does, I haven't been there before.
15:47:02 <Talliesin> It's an interesting part of Dublin, part of the old Viking Dublin
15:47:49 <sbp> what was Dublin called in Viking times?
15:49:01 <Talliesin> Dubh Linn
15:49:21 <sbp> they didn't give it a name of their own?
15:50:03 <Talliesin> They started speaking Irish for trading pretty fast.
15:50:21 <sbp> aha
15:50:37 <jessica> It's amazing how quickly you learn the language of the gentlemen with the weapons.
15:51:00 <sbp> if that were the case, we'd all be speaking American now
15:51:03 <sbp> er. nevermind
15:51:06 <kandinski> like the world speaks English now?
15:51:09 <jetscreamer> yeah have to be able to know wtf they are saying
15:51:09 <kandinski> ah
15:51:31 <kandinski> It is like those videos of US soldiers in Irak
15:51:36 <Talliesin> But their name for it was Dubh Linn (lit. Dark Pool or Black Pool), the same region was already called Baile Átha Cliath, which is the more commonly used name in Irish today
15:51:37 <kandinski> "stay where you are, sir"
15:51:46 <kandinski> "STAY WHERE THE FUCK YOU ARE"
15:51:48 <kandinski> or whatever
15:52:08 <sbp> what does Baile Átha Cliath mean?
15:52:15 <kandinski> Dark Pool
15:52:18 <kandinski> (hehe)
15:52:25 <Talliesin> kandinski, yes i associate being addressed as "sir" with having an assault rifle pointed at me.
15:52:35 <Talliesin> Town at the sandy ford.
15:52:46 <kandinski> I would do that
15:52:51 <kandinski> say sir and point the gun
15:52:58 <kandinski> resepectful but forceful
15:52:59 <sbp> reminds me of the only time I've ever had a loaded (presumably) assault rifle pointed at me
15:53:15 <kandinski> <sbp> I was trading heroin at the time...
15:53:28 <sbp> I was in a queue in a sweetshop, year before last I believe, and there was an armed policeman standing next to me in the queue
15:53:47 <kandinski> same thing, sweets, heroin...
15:53:49 <jessica> If he wanted the last bit of fudge, I say let him have it.
15:53:56 <sbp> apparently he didn't notice me beside him since his gun was pointing right up at my head. so I sorta leaned back a little whilst still in the queue...
15:54:17 <crschmidt> wait, police carry assault rifles?
15:54:18 <sbp> yeah. must be fun buying sweets with an automatic rifle in your hands
15:54:29 <Talliesin> Ah, got it. The Norse version of Dubh Linn was Dyfflin.
15:54:31 <sbp> only trained marksmen here
15:54:34 <sbp> ah, cool!
15:54:41 <kandinski> in Spain I have gotten stopped by Guardia Civil in the Basque country. They don't quite point at you. But they don't not point at you either.
15:54:43 <sbp> crschmidt: they're few and far between
15:54:54 <twe> And they're all too young to really understand what they're saying at this rate.
15:55:03 <sbp> very rare you'll see them walking around, let alone in a bloody sweetshop
15:55:10 <Talliesin> crschmidt, In Britain most cops don't carry any guns at all. When guns are needed though it's the big ones that they want!
15:55:17 <kandinski> <policeman> I needed my sugar rush!
15:55:19 <crschmidt> heh, apparently
15:55:30 <crschmidt> I actually had heard the most policement don't carry guns thing.
15:55:35 <sbp> and I'm sure there must be protocol for where they point their weapons, but I'm sure he didn't see me. and I presume the safety catch was on :-)
15:55:37 <Talliesin> The only ones with guns are equivalent to your SWAT teams
15:55:38 <crschmidt> Whereas in the US, I'm pretty sure all police have pistols.
15:55:46 <sbp> right. the huge majority of police here and unarmed
15:55:47 <kandinski> <policeman> you don't want to faint for lack of blood sugar when carrying an assaunt rifle
15:55:53 <crschmidt> * crschmidt nods
15:55:55 <crschmidt> Makes sense
15:55:56 <sbp> that's why it was rather an interesting moment
15:56:03 <Talliesin> <sbp> and I'm sure there must be protocol for where they point their weapon
15:56:08 <jessica> I notice that it's done the U.K. no bit of good to ban guns.
15:56:16 <jessica> All it did was increase violence by knives and machetes.
15:56:22 <Talliesin> Whereas soldiers in NI point their rifles at you just because the scope gives them a better view of you.
15:56:28 <sbp> heh, heh
15:56:32 <crschmidt> Except for the whole SWAT guy in a sweetshop thing, but that is what's odd about the whole thing.
15:56:35 <jessica> When people want to whack each other, the least that could be done is allow them guns so they can do it humanely.
15:56:43 <Talliesin> jessica, but that drive by machete attempt didn't hurt me a bit.
15:56:52 <jessica> :snerk:
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15:57:08 <jessica> Still, a shot to the head vs. disembowellment -- I'll take the shot to the head.
15:57:21 <jessica> Similarly, I had real arguments with the armorer when I was in basic military training.
15:57:23 <Talliesin> I don't think you get to pick the shot.
15:57:32 <kandinski> Talliesin, also in NI they are soldiers, in Spain, England etc they are police
15:57:40 <kandinski> quite different imho
15:57:45 <jessica> "The Kevlar helmet won't stop a bullet, it'll just slow it down, right?" "Right." "Why would I want a *slow* bullet it my head?"
15:57:59 <jessica> I mean, really.
15:58:04 <Talliesin> kandinski, yes, the police in NI normally have pistols and shotguns in the car.
15:58:09 <jessica> Either give me a goddamn WW2 brain bucket or let me wear a soft cap.
15:58:12 <crschmidt> so that it doesn't shoot someone else after it leaves your head?
15:58:26 <jessica> I tend not to be benevolent when it comes to bullets in my head.
15:58:31 <jessica> Normally I'm quite socially conscientious.
15:58:37 <jessica> I give to charity, I volunteer an enormous amount of my time.
15:58:48 <Talliesin> The police in the Republic are unarmed, but we've special branch with pistols, armed response with assault rifles, and sometimes special branch have uzis too.
15:58:49 <jessica> But when it comes to my own execution, I'm rather for getting it over with quickly, and damn the ricochet.
15:59:14 <sbp> jessica: hmm, yeah it does seem a bit of a binary thing
15:59:17 <jessica> We have Uzis too. They're simply in the hands of drug traffickers in Miami.
15:59:27 <kandinski> Talliesin, what I meant is in Spain and England there are no Military policing the streets
15:59:33 <jessica> Which is quite where I'd prefer they belong.
15:59:39 <jessica> They're no damn good past about five feet.
15:59:46 <kandinski> whoever polices the streets is a cop, not a soldier, quite a difference
15:59:53 <Talliesin> kandinski, you ever see what your anti-terrorist cops look like?
15:59:56 <jessica> The only time I want a weapon that's no good for distance shooting is home defense.
16:00:00 <kandinski> yes
16:00:01 <jessica> Specifically, I want an unloaded shotgun around.
16:00:06 <kandinski> fearsome
16:00:08 <jessica> Have any of y'all ever heard one of those things racked?
16:00:11 <kandinski> but they are not patroling
16:00:15 <crschmidt> For threatening Alicia's dates?
16:00:20 <sbp> hehe
16:00:23 <kandinski> they are only taken out of storage when needed
16:00:33 <jessica> Well, anyone, really. It's one of those sphincter-opening saying-Hail-Marys kind of sounds.
16:00:35 <sbp> "my mom's gonna bust a cap in yo ass"
16:00:47 <jessica> Mom doesn't need to. Mom has hand to hand combat training.
16:00:51 <crschmidt> Jess, I've told you, if we don't let the girl get laid occasionally, she'll get as emo as me. While I understand your desires to protect her, do we really need *more* emo in the house?
16:00:56 <jessica> It brings new meaning to "yo mama wears combat boots."
16:01:23 <jessica> You get laid with astonishing frequency for a nearly-married man and you still declare you have no right to eat breakfast. I rest my case.
16:01:46 <sbp> no right to eat breakfast?
16:01:48 <crschmidt> I didn't say I didn't have a right, I just wasn't hungry
16:01:55 <kandinski> I was wondering about that too
16:01:55 <Talliesin> My approach is I'm going to makes sure they have the hand-to-hand training, then at least I'll be more confident that if they are getting laid it's because they want to.
16:02:00 <crschmidt> She offered me breakfast in bed, which would have meant frosted flakes.
16:02:10 <sbp> mmm... frosted flakes
16:02:12 <Talliesin> Not fully confident, just more so.
16:02:14 <crschmidt> I wasn't sure what I did want, but I knew it wasn't frosted flakes
16:02:16 <sbp> you should've taken it, you fool!
16:02:17 <kandinski> Talliesin, that is good.
16:02:30 <crschmidt> I ended up eating pop tarts, and feeding one to julie.
16:02:32 <crschmidt> Er, Julie, rather.
16:02:32 <jessica> * jessica rolls eyes at news headlines.
16:02:35 <crschmidt> speaking of julie.
16:02:47 <jessica> "BRITAIN ANNOUNCES THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR A FLU PANDEMIC."
16:02:48 <kandinski> but then you have to leave your gun in the ther room, so you can be more confident, I mean.
16:02:57 <kandinski> s/ther/other/
16:03:03 <jessica> Really, the Empire finally got around to installing a public health authority whose job it is to control epidemics? Fascinating.
16:03:04 <sbp> jessica: we're all becoming Belgian
16:03:12 <sbp> then no Briton can possibly get the flu
16:03:16 <sbp> since there won't be any
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16:03:18 <jessica> It's not my fault you're all going to end up in the EU. :P
16:03:22 <sbp> it's a fairly unpopular move, but...
16:03:26 <crschmidt> ^witw crschmidt
16:03:28 <julie> 7 days, 1 hours, 9 minutes, 49 seconds ago, crschmidt was at long: -71.4670, lat: 42.9910
16:03:31 <jessica> Why on earth would you want to become Belgians?
16:03:33 <crschmidt> and i'm still there!
16:03:35 <jessica> Dull, flat, fog.
16:03:37 <Talliesin> * Talliesin is glad someone has a plan for such a pandemic
16:03:37 <jessica> . . .
16:03:40 <sbp> well, as I keep saying, I'm Euro-friendly now
16:03:45 <Talliesin> I assume they're talking about Avian Flu?
16:03:46 <sbp> 'cause it's either leftards or rightards
16:03:50 <kandinski> why that sbp?
16:03:50 <jessica> wait. That describes England, doesn't it?
16:04:04 <sbp> we either end up using dollars or euros, pretty much
16:04:13 <jessica> Talliesin -- no idea, I didn't read it, however, I would assume that all public health authorities create and continually update plans for dealing with epidemics.
16:04:13 <kandinski> * kandinski not getting the joke/pun/haa ha only serious explanation/
16:04:14 <sbp> not flat
16:04:19 <Talliesin> (And when did Avian Flu become "Bird Flu". is it too much to ask that the averagely-educated person would know the word "avian"?)
16:04:23 <sbp> flattish
16:04:27 <kandinski> you meant Euro-friendly as in the coin?
16:04:28 <jessica> What I want to read is the "Emergency Ebola Pandemic Health Plan."
16:04:31 <sbp> and not fog
16:04:32 <sbp> rain
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16:04:38 <sbp> lots and lots of rain. with occasional fog
16:04:50 <jessica> Belgium, dull, flat, fog. England, dull, flattish, rain.
16:04:50 <Talliesin> jessica, "pandemic". The WHO are worried about the possibility of an international avian flu pandemic.
16:04:54 <sbp> actually it's almost sunny here at the moment
16:04:55 <jessica> Glad we have that straight.
16:05:01 <sbp> but it looks like it's going to rain
16:05:06 <sbp> not always dull either
16:05:07 <jessica> Talliesin -- so am I, but it's hardly news that they're dealing with it, no?
16:05:14 <sbp> about two thirds of the country is dull, one third is pretty
16:05:21 <sbp> actually:
16:05:22 <jessica> They have a plan in place, very good, they should. Why not break the news when it's happened?
16:05:24 <Talliesin> It's hella big news, no one else is.
16:05:26 <sbp> 1/3: very, very dull
16:05:29 <sbp> 1/3: dull
16:05:30 <jessica> You're joking.
16:05:30 <sbp> 1/3: pretty
16:05:37 <jessica> Why on earth are they not planning for the inevitable?
16:05:41 <jessica> What, do they want a repeat of 1918?
16:05:56 <sbp> in flew Enza
16:06:01 <Talliesin> Hey, you're in a country with far more resources than Britain, where's your plan?
16:06:14 <crschmidt> Pfft, who needs a plan.
16:06:15 <crschmidt> Let the people die!
16:06:17 <crschmidt> ALL OF THEM
16:06:28 <sbp> yeah, you could withstand a new terra'ist attack but when it comes to microbes...
16:06:49 <Talliesin> crschmidt, given that it's most likely to start in SE Asia, but Korea is the next most likely place - that may well be your plan!
16:06:56 <jessica> No kidding.
16:07:08 <jessica> Why do we bother maintaining a military presence in Seoul, that's what I'd like to know.
16:07:24 <sbp> destablize the region?
16:07:29 <jessica> So what if Pyongyang reunites the country? Let me tell you, having Hanoi and Saigon separate was a really great idea.
16:07:37 <jessica> So we have a nutcase with lots of nuclear weapons in charge.
16:07:42 <sbp> it being one of your biggest corporate opponents
16:07:43 <jessica> We have one in the U.S. What's the diff?
16:07:52 <sbp> God is on the side of yours!
16:08:16 <Talliesin> jessica, why do you bother maintaining a military presence in Okinawa? I doubt the Emporer will send a fleet to Pearl Harbour the moment you withdraw.
16:08:20 <jessica> He's not shown His face here for a while. I suspect He may be vacationing on Crete.
16:08:32 <sbp> well, Lincoln would disagree of course but...
16:08:37 <sbp> Lincoln's old news
16:08:37 <jessica> Tallie -- as I recall, the agreement is that Japan may never re-arm as part of the agreement, which is stupid.
16:08:57 <sbp> same with Germany
16:09:09 <sbp> which I love, 'cause now Japan and Germany are two of the largest economic powers
16:09:11 <jessica> Another country that has entirely too many Americans around.
16:09:12 <Talliesin> Yes, they had to squander their money on building automobile industries instead.
16:09:20 <sbp> which is a good recipie for building up a country
16:09:22 <jessica> I feel a deep and abiding pity for them, but get fucking real.
16:09:34 <sbp> divert no funds to the military, and get the UN to protect you instead
16:09:35 <jessica> The Germans and the Japanese learned a very good postwar lesson. If you lose the war, buy the winner's country.
16:09:51 <sbp> right. but if that could be achieved *without* a world war, just imagine the consequences for said country
16:10:05 <Talliesin> WW2½ - Detroit lost
16:10:05 <sbp> winnah
16:10:58 <jessica> Then again, having driven an American car, I'm fully willing to go learn how to speak German tomorrow.
16:11:22 <jessica> Except I wonder how you pronounce such multisyllabic words. Supreme breath control?
16:11:43 <sbp> nibble some Bratwurst between each few syllables
16:11:58 <eaon> don't forget the sauerkraut
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16:12:14 <twe> So morphix is a module that'll make it only four syllables, you can see, i finally got up and do things differently than you're used to it: i've been recording a lot of work to build intelligent machines and understand thinking. It's just the tv. The curtains are blinking, the entire room is pulsating.
16:12:20 <jessica> Good god. If their breath smells like that, how do they bear to get close enough to each other to mate?
16:12:37 <sbp> well if they're all eating it...
16:12:47 <sbp> *** sbp has changed the topic to: <twe> The curtains are blinking, the entire room is pulsating.
16:13:23 <eaon> sauerkraut rules.
16:13:32 <jessica> I don't think I'd survive long in Germany.
16:13:34 <jessica> I'm a vegetarian.
16:13:39 <eaon> so am i
16:13:40 <jessica> I don't believe they make vegetarian wursts yet.
16:13:43 <sbp> POMMES ODER BROT?
16:14:12 <eaon> jessica: brot and sauerkraut for us then!
16:14:25 <jessica> Brot? Soup?
16:14:28 <eaon> mmm sauerkraut.
16:14:31 <eaon> bread
16:14:38 <jessica> * jessica looks at Sean's statement and guesses that "pommes" is the same in German as it is in French.
16:14:44 <sbp> http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=03222004
16:14:46 <jessica> Potatoes, bread, and sauerkraut.
16:14:49 <jessica> I do believe I'd starve.
16:14:58 <jessica> Haven't they heard of low-carb diets there yet?
16:15:08 <crschmidt> You starve in the US too
16:15:19 <crschmidt> You never eat enough. You too thin. How you gonna get a husband?
16:15:19 <sbp> low-carb is insane
16:15:45 <sbp> it's like the basic constituent of food other than protein and water
16:15:51 <sbp> you might as well just not eat
16:16:00 <crschmidt> lots of people do it though
16:16:08 <crschmidt> the whole atkins phenomenon
16:16:10 <sbp> it's the craziest thing ever
16:16:11 <Talliesin> sbp you can get by on "low-calorie energy drinks"
16:16:16 <sbp> heh!
16:16:34 <jessica> Christopher Robert. I am five feet three inches tall and twelve stone.
16:16:38 <Talliesin> crschmidt, there's a faster version of the atkins diet. It's called Heroin. Same principle.
16:16:39 <jessica> I am not going to starve to death any time soon.
16:16:43 <Talliesin> Ever see a fat junkie?
16:16:47 <crschmidt> You had to look up the conversion to stone.
16:16:58 <sbp> *** sbp has changed the topic to: <twe> The curtains are blinking, the entire room is pulsating. || <Talliesin> crschmidt, there's a faster version of the atkins diet. It's called Heroin. Same principle.
16:16:59 <crschmidt> That's why it took you so long. You know your weight in pounds, why didn't you just use it? :P
16:17:02 <twe> I definitely want to go around blaspheming jesus here in the form of advanced irony that i need you to my front door, but the declarations are left in no matter how random she is, she's still not responded to him ccing www-archive, and about five feet.
16:17:03 <jessica> I couldn't remember how many pounds it was to the stone.
16:17:08 <jessica> Because we're talking with a bunch of Britons.
16:17:19 <crschmidt> Who knows full well what a pound is!
16:17:21 <sbp> it's 16, or 14
16:17:30 <sbp> no wait, that's ounces to a pound
16:17:36 <jessica> 14 pounds to a stone.
16:17:41 <Talliesin> I'm Irish. We're more advanced than you brits and yanks and use metric
16:17:47 <sbp> how many stone to a pound? 1/14?
16:17:52 <JibberJim> yes
16:17:55 <Talliesin> (Only we don't really, we use Imperial, but we pretend to use metric to be European)
16:18:02 <sbp> hehe
16:18:02 <JibberJim> Bah Talliesin, we use metric too.
16:18:05 <jessica> Ireland is Europe now?
16:18:08 <sbp> yeah, we "use" it
16:18:34 <JibberJim> Talliesin, how come Ireland plays rugby?
16:18:35 <jessica> Guinness + English speaking != Europe
16:18:46 <jessica> We pretend to use metric here, too.
16:18:49 <JibberJim> (as Ireland I mean of course)
16:19:00 <Talliesin> Ireland is Europe, except when EU and US are having a tiff. They we slink around the ankles of both trying not to offend either but prefering US if it comes to it.
16:19:01 <jessica> For some reason, a lot of our street signs are marked in colonial and metric markings.
16:19:09 <jessica> I have no idea why.
16:19:16 <Talliesin> JibberJim, Rugby is bigger in France than in Ireland.
16:19:19 <jessica> The EU and US are constantly in a tiff when we have a Republican president.
16:19:26 <jessica> Expect another 3 odd years of tiff.
16:19:30 <sbp> yeah. how'd we do the five nations?
16:19:43 <Talliesin> Meanwhile the US only notices Ireland every 2 weeks or so when the Jetstream makes Shannon Airport strategicly important.
16:19:43 <jessica> I really expect Hillary Clinton to take the Democratic nomination in 2008.
16:19:47 <JibberJim> Yes Talliesin, I know, I want to know why "Ireland" plays it - not as a country, but as a country and a part of another country...
16:19:50 <sbp> then the Hillary vs. Condi smackdown
16:20:03 <jessica> * jessica wants to do some sort of sponsoring of Red State residents to come to Blue States.
16:20:09 <jessica> I think if only they could experience the joy of our ways.
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16:20:18 <Talliesin> JibberJim, as a techie you should know that the reason for any such incongruity is "historical reasons".
16:20:26 <jessica> 15 minutes to order a coffee drink. Driving volvos. Eating weird vegetables that a red stater would yank as a weed if it came up in their garden.
16:20:44 <JibberJim> I'd be interested in those historical reasons even...
16:20:51 <jessica> Sort of like Mormon missionaries avidly winning converts in Greece, right?
16:20:55 <Talliesin> mainly, the IRFU was founded back when Dublin was the second city of the British Empire, and most members at the time weren't too happy to see that change.
16:21:32 <jessica> Dublin was the second city, and not Edinburgh or York?
16:21:44 <sbp> it wou... York's small
16:21:55 <jessica> It's near the border with Scotland, though, no?
16:22:10 <JibberJim> * JibberJim thought the 5 nations started after partition...
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16:22:16 <sbp> Newcastle's larger and nearer
16:22:18 <jessica> I've never studied European history in earnest, and haven't taken geography in ten years.
16:22:23 <JibberJim> * JibberJim would imagine Melbourne or actually....
16:22:29 <jessica> I was a history major studying war.
16:22:38 <Talliesin> JibberJim, it did. But there were Irish, English, Scottish and Welsh teams before then.
16:22:41 <JibberJim> but I guess there's a period between melbourne leaving and Dublin leaving
16:22:57 <jessica> I read history on the Crusades, on the Vietnam War, on the Cold War, on the American Civil War, on the French Revolution, etc.
16:23:07 <twe> Well, yes. It's more readable code to build more off of your writing style they should been enforced from the left house to the decorator function and store... But can you change the period and the reunion solitaire than the old viking dublin.
16:23:14 <sbp> which was the best to study?
16:23:25 <jessica> The basic thing I got out of two years was "Imperialism doesn't work, and the only way to end the problems in Jerusalem is the way Godfrey of Bouillon did."
16:23:46 <jessica> I really enjoyed my Crusades class, but the professor was top notch.
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16:24:29 <sbp> "After some difficulties in Hungary, where he was unable to stop his men from pillaging fellow Christians, he arrived in Constantinople in November." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_of_Bouillon
16:24:38 <jessica> (For those who haven't read their medieval history in a while: Godfrey of Bouillon took Jerusalem and had every single inhabitant slaughtered, thereby ending conflict in the city for a period of 8 months. He stands alone in being able to get people to stop fighting over Jerusalem since approximately the Babylonian Empire.)
16:24:41 <jessica> * jessica snerks.
16:25:01 <Talliesin> For 8 months
16:25:16 <jessica> The cities of the Byzantine Empire paid an indemnity to every band of Crusaders that came through, to get them to stop sacking their cities on the way.
16:25:18 <sbp> I'd like to know how they repopulated ex nihilo
16:25:21 <jessica> Right.
16:25:28 <jessica> He didn't slaughter the countryside.
16:26:08 <sbp> "hey, I'm tired of shovelling horseshit. let's move into that city where everyone just got slaughtered" "good idea"
16:26:09 <jessica> By the by, the Arabs, and by extension the Muslim world, happen to remember this little act of ours. In fact, the Somalis greeted some of the Americans in 1993 with banners with two men riding on a single horse.
16:26:29 <jessica> That was the emblem of the Knights Templars, I believe.
16:26:35 <jessica> Memories are quite long there.
16:26:42 <Talliesin> I like the way the Venetians bought the Crusaders a fleet, and then half-way there turned around and sacked Constantinople instead in revenge for their treatment of Venetian merchants decades before.
16:27:05 <jessica> (It also leads me to conclude that those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it, but those who do learn history go repeat it out of sheer enjoyment.)
16:27:16 <Talliesin> sbp, notice that good land near active volcanoes tends to get used pretty fast.
16:27:43 <jessica> Well, the Italians were financing the entire shebang and had quite a bit of sway with the Crusaders as they'd stay there a year or more to outfit and equip themselves.
16:27:54 <sbp> yeah. someone needs to invent a volcano cork
16:27:55 <jessica> Frankly, I think they should have lounged around in Italian restaurants and then gone home.
16:27:56 <JibberJim> but that'as sensible Talliesin, the land is very good, productive land you can make lots of money off...
16:28:05 <jessica> right, volcanic soil is very rich.
16:28:13 <Talliesin> Yeah, and "hey look, big empty city"
16:28:13 <sbp> *fertile*
16:28:28 <jessica> hell, even Hawai'i has been settled for millenia, and it's got so damn many active volcanos it's frightening.
16:28:34 <jessica> Pompeii was resettled within decades, no?
16:28:34 <Talliesin> The fact that everyone that was there a month ago got killed won't stop people coming in if they think they can make a life there.
16:28:47 <sbp> nobody left to tell the new folk what happened
16:28:52 <jessica> Living in cities is always more attractive than living in the countryside, except for 20th century yuppies.
16:29:04 <sbp> what? no way
16:29:13 <jessica> You either have the choice of slaving 18 hours a day to produce food or slaving 18 hours a day to do something more boring.
16:29:15 <JibberJim> aren't the ash covered bodies of people shagging enough of a warning then sbp?
16:29:27 <sbp> big noisy pigeon filled infected ratfests of bubonic plague, smog, prostitution and government seats? terrible!
16:29:39 <jessica> Sean, dear, have you ever worked on a farm?
16:30:13 <jessica> The Somali house of government apparently was covered in human excrement by 1994. How tempting is that?
16:30:23 <jessica> I fear I'd be arrested if I attempted to do that in D.C.
16:30:26 <sbp> not saying a farm isn't massively hard work, more so than city life, but at least when you're fagged out at the end of the day you don't have to put up with HONK HONK BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HONK HONK HONK PUNCH
16:31:09 <sbp> in any case, there's plenty of other forms of employment out in th' countryside
16:31:10 <Talliesin> Spraying manure on local govt. buildings as an act of protest has become almost a hobby amongst British famers.
16:31:12 <sbp> you could be a vet
16:31:18 <sbp> or a postal worker
16:31:30 <jessica> Sean, we're discussing the resettlement pattern of cities in medieval times.
16:31:35 <Talliesin> Was funny the time one of them, who obviously didn't go into town that often, got the wrong building.
16:31:49 <jessica> Which one did he choose to bless with his bounty?
16:31:49 <sbp> back then it was the geese that went HONK
16:32:07 <sbp> back then, of course, you had bear baiting and such
16:32:12 <Talliesin> A bit like the time someone threw an egg at me because I'm queer and it hit a Socialist Worker in the stand next to mine.
16:32:21 <sbp> back *then* really you were screwed pretty much wherever you went
16:32:35 <sbp> oh man
16:33:03 <JibberJim> ooh cool, I could go anywhere and get screwed? no need to like pay or anything?
16:33:06 <Talliesin> Really funny because of the three SWMies that were at that stand, 2 of them were also queer, but the straight one got hit.
16:33:17 <sbp> ahahaha
16:33:20 <Talliesin> Worse aim i ever saw on a queerbasher.
16:33:29 <jessica> I've never understood queer bashing.
16:33:45 <Talliesin> Fucker could run faster than me too :(
16:33:45 <jessica> If straight people hate us of Alternative Preferences so damn much, why do they come to our bars to dance?
16:34:15 <jetscreamer> it's about wanting to feel superior to another, or that somebody else is lower
16:34:25 <jetscreamer> and other factors
16:34:31 <jsled> Well, I do it because ... oh... um...
16:34:33 <Talliesin> Well the biggest gay bar in Dublin is, I often feel, only liked by straights.
16:34:35 <sbp> misconception, age old prejudice, blah blah
16:34:35 <jessica> Such as a secret enjoyment of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy?
16:34:55 <jessica> I once had someone mock me and my then-girlfriend for kissing in a queer bar.
16:35:07 <Talliesin> LOL!
16:35:13 <jessica> It was fairly amusing, yes. :)
16:35:21 <sbp> awesome
16:35:26 <jessica> The irony is that we're both polyamorists who were, at the time, in Church sanctioned heterosexual marriages.
16:35:35 <jessica> this was just what we did in our off time.
16:35:59 <Talliesin> We once had a group of 6 people decide to queer bash an entire gay bar.
16:36:00 <sbp> * sbp had Friends flashbacks
16:36:16 <Talliesin> It only took 4 of the patrons to sort the six of them out.
16:37:02 <jessica> I love the initiative going on among some radical gay groups in the U.S.
16:37:17 <jetscreamer> i wonder if i can get 1million ppl to give me a dollar
16:37:17 <jessica> They're trying to convince everyone of a Pink Pistol movement, though I don't know what they're calling it.
16:37:22 <jessica> "If you're gay, carry a gun."
16:37:42 <jessica> That'd quickly sort out lads looking to make points with their friends by throwing eggs, I imagine.
16:37:58 <jessica> Particularly if they can shoot straight.
16:38:00 <jessica> No pun intended.
16:38:08 <sbp> groan anyway
16:38:25 <jetscreamer> eggs hurt. i had some bastards throw one at my back from a passing car
16:38:37 <jessica> Don't they, though? Especially when they're rotten.
16:38:56 <sbp> what the. why have all you people had eggs thrown at you?
16:39:14 <jessica> Working for a Planned Parenthood clinic.
16:39:18 <sbp> aha
16:39:24 <sbp> what's your excuse, jetscreamer?
16:39:27 <jessica> Apparently the protestors thought I needed daily abortions, or some such.
16:39:31 <jetscreamer> i wasn't well liked in school... i was of the opinion that i was better than *.. and i was right :)
16:39:38 <drfu> * drfu is away: I'm busy
16:39:40 <Talliesin> I'd love to know where polyamourists find the time.
16:39:41 <sbp> heh, heh
16:39:50 <sbp> drfu: didn't know you were here
16:39:56 <Talliesin> I'm luck if I can manage half an amoury :(
16:40:17 <sbp> jessica: did you ever practice amoury in the armoury?
16:40:32 <sbp> (I know it's amory)
16:40:32 <jessica> No, but I did go down on some strange girl next to the dumpster at a bar.
16:40:36 <jetscreamer> amore
16:40:43 <jessica> I believe in being high class, you see.
16:40:45 <jetscreamer> dumpster? ewww
16:40:59 <jessica> Eh, we were drunk and I was a 21 year old savage.
16:41:06 <jessica> I seem to recall that everyone under the age of 22 is a savage.
16:41:11 <jessica> Speaking from my experience as a 23 year old.
16:41:15 <jetscreamer> sounds smelly...
16:41:16 <sbp> * sbp looks square at crschmidt
16:41:26 <Talliesin> Pink Pistol makes sense. Ever hear a Women Armed for Self-Protection?
16:41:27 <jessica> I don't mind his savagery, Sean. ;)
16:41:31 <jessica> nope, tallie.
16:41:51 <Talliesin> "Man and Woman were created equal - And Smith & Wesson make damn sure it stays that way"
16:42:00 <jessica> Tallie: by the by, I've given up on polyamory as it's too time consuming and too drama producing. The odd lesbian shag is all I need, and those who are seriously into the lifestyle tend to bring drama with them everywhere they go.
16:42:04 <Talliesin> I used to know the founder, I must get in touch again.
16:45:15 <crschmidt> What am I doing now?
16:45:23 <crschmidt> I was getting looked at squarely.
16:45:46 <sbp> it was just me
16:46:12 <Talliesin> http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Porn/WASPL.gif (WASP poster, not porn)
16:46:37 <sbp> ah, Texas
16:46:39 <sbp> makes sense now
16:47:01 <sbp> the state where you must own at least three guns to vote
16:47:44 <sbp> the thing about PP and WASP is that it shouldn't really be necessary
16:47:45 <Talliesin> Well, one of their points is that the right to bear arms seemed to really only apply to white men at the time.
16:48:02 <sbp> I'm not sure it's the best area to concentrate on...
16:48:24 <sbp> well it's like saying that "hey, only white men are allowed to own slaves; we should be allowed too!" back in 1750
16:48:25 <Talliesin> Sure it shouldn't be necessary. I'd hate to think of her opening her door without her 45 with dum-dums in her hand though. But I know she wouldn't do that.
16:48:26 <jessica> Sean -- thank you. And once you find that utopian society in which women don't get raped walking to their car after work and gay men aren't beaten to death (R.I.P. Matthew Shepard), let me know.
16:48:40 <Talliesin> <sbp> well it's like saying that "hey, only white men are allowed to own slaves; we should be allowed too!" back in 1750
16:49:01 <sbp> jessica: well what I'm saying is that there should be better ways to prevent that. more policing, better sentencing and rehab, etc.
16:49:02 <Talliesin> You know the slave that sued for his freedom, there was a film about it a few years back?
16:49:05 <Talliesin> He became a slaver.
16:49:07 <jetscreamer> jessica, that would be the old west
16:49:16 <sbp> Talliesin: no? wow
16:49:18 <jessica> And Annie Oakley was armed.
16:49:20 <jessica> Your point?
16:49:21 <jetscreamer> yep
16:49:47 <Talliesin> Some black people did say that in 1750.
16:49:47 <jetscreamer> my point is that women didn't get molested
16:49:52 <jetscreamer> as much
16:50:34 <Talliesin> Women didn't get molested in the old west?
16:50:39 <jetscreamer> as much
16:50:45 <sbp> awesome: "Once, at the invitation of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, she knocked the ashes off a cigaret he was holding in his mouth."
16:51:07 <sbp> not particularly sure what your point is though
16:51:07 <Talliesin> What about the chinese slaves in the whore houses?
16:51:10 <sbp> it works?
16:51:36 <jetscreamer> you mean the slaves now, or the slaves then...
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16:51:48 <jetscreamer> that was the entire point btw
16:51:48 <Talliesin> The ones then.
16:51:57 <Talliesin> I know the ones now get molested.
16:52:00 <sbp> jetscreamer: I mean, jessica's point with Oakley
16:52:15 <jsled> [java] <string>:1:[SyntaxWarning]: local name 't2name' in 'findMatches' shadows use as global in nested scopes
16:52:18 <jsled> eh?
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16:52:35 <jessica> The point is, in the Old West, unprotected women were mavericks.
16:52:38 <jetscreamer> i was referring to the utopian part
16:52:41 <jessica> The majority of women were protected by their own armed men.
16:53:00 <sbp> ...: "After defeating a sideshow marksman named Frank Butler in 1880, she married him and became his assistant in his travelling show."
16:54:22 <jessica> I'm a qualified sharpshooter myself.
16:54:26 <jessica> Most women are very good shots.
16:54:44 <crschmidt> hey, geourl is back!
16:54:51 <kandinski> most women who take lessons, I assume
16:54:58 <sbp> still not sure of your point, but m'kay
16:55:05 <kandinski> give my sister and me a gun each, and....
16:55:09 <kandinski> RUN FOR YOUR LIFES!
16:55:17 <jetscreamer> i missed with my one law rocket shot
16:55:19 <jessica> * jessica shrugs. I had army training.
16:55:24 <kandinski> s/LIFES/LIVES/
16:55:49 <kandinski> so most women you met in army trainig were good shots. hardly surprising.
16:55:59 <kandinski> it has been an entertaining conversation , though.
16:56:22 <jessica> Actually, my brother-in-law is a gun dealer.
16:56:34 <jessica> He made the remark originally, before I went in.
16:56:35 <kandinski> I have come to the conclusion that guns aren't that bad. Maybe if guns hare been better distributed in Spain in '36 the Civil War would not have gone awry.
16:56:49 <jessica> More women qualified as sharpshooters and experts in my group, percentage wise, then the men did.
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16:57:02 <jessica> (My training company. Could have been an anomaly, of course.)
16:57:03 <jessica> Hi, doc.
16:57:08 <sbp> o/~ guns the eternal debate o/~
16:57:17 <kandinski> but somehow assault weapons for sale out of car boots is not something that I asociate with safety.
16:57:20 <kandinski> hmmm
16:57:31 <kandinski> guns don't shoot people, people with guns do!"
16:57:37 <sbp> guns in the hands of the responsible are fine
16:57:50 <sbp> but show me one fully responsible person and...
16:57:55 <kandinski> I opened that quotation back in 1997, if that is somehow an excuse.
16:58:03 <jsled> hah.
16:58:25 <sbp> this whole conversation started because an armed policeman accidentally aimed his assult rifle at my head in a sweetshop!
16:58:26 <jessica> I think having a gun is a much better idea than not having one, provided proper care, safety, safeguarding from children, etc.
16:58:46 <kandinski> jessica, you being an army trained sane person, I might concurr.
16:58:50 <jessica> however, I live with a hardcore pacifist /me nods at Schmidty and therefore doubt I'll ever own the Desert Eagle I crave.
16:58:56 <Talliesin> Bah, and after all the armed soldiers that have aimed them at me.
16:58:58 <jessica> Sane?
16:59:04 <kandinski> but most people who buy them do not properly care, safe, secure or safeguard their guns
16:59:10 <kandinski> and thus end up shot by them.
16:59:14 <Talliesin> Desert Eagle? That is such a bling gun.
16:59:20 <sbp> you and that Desert Eagle :-)
16:59:28 <crschmidt> ooh. Desert Eagles.
16:59:31 <kandinski> bling-bling
16:59:32 <jessica> Isn't that a charitable act on the part of Uncle Chuck, Kandinski?
16:59:37 <jessica> mucho bling, but so beautiful.
16:59:39 <kandinski> Chuck?
16:59:42 <jessica> I cream my panties at the sight.
16:59:47 <crschmidt> kandinski: darwin.
16:59:50 <kandinski> ah
16:59:51 <kandinski> yes
17:00:09 <kandinski> crschmidt: don't give her the gun. All you both need is the sights.
17:00:17 <kandinski> * kandinski ducks and autogroans
17:02:03 <Talliesin> Porn (but only if you're jessica)
17:02:04 <Talliesin> http://www.airsoft06.com/Tokyo_marui_desert_eagle_50_AE.JPG
17:02:20 <sbp> http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg63-e.htm
17:02:24 <crschmidt> mmm.
17:02:26 <Talliesin> Porny close-up (but only if you're jessica)
17:02:27 <Talliesin> http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/images/DE_DETAIL_jpg.jpg
17:02:27 <crschmidt> that's a pretty gun.
17:02:29 <sbp> P210 is awesome
17:02:53 <Talliesin> I think there's a version with a cut out magazine/handle so you can see the rounds. Can't find it though.
17:03:37 <kandinski> Jess, did you see Baz Luhrman's Romeo and Juliet?
17:04:04 <crschmidt> (sbp: That's the one that I was trying to explain to you one night.)
17:04:21 <sbp> ah
17:04:23 <kandinski> there is a lot of gun por in there
17:04:24 <crschmidt> kandinski: I know she's watched most of it at least once, I'm not sure if she's seen the entire thing. She fell asleep about an hour and a half in
17:04:27 <kandinski> porn
17:04:30 <kandinski> oh
17:04:32 <kandinski> I loved it
17:04:42 <crschmidt> But she may have watched it before: she owned the movie before I met you
17:04:43 <kandinski> loved it so
17:04:46 <crschmidt> met her*
17:04:56 <kandinski> and before you met me too, obviously
17:05:03 <Talliesin> Gosh, actual soft-core with a deagle: http://asylumphotocreation.4t.com/images/jill-desert-eagle-c.jpg
17:05:05 <crschmidt> yep
17:05:06 <kandinski> * kandinski smiles
17:05:48 <kandinski> the street finding its own uses for stuff, innit?
17:05:48 <sbp> Talliesin: what's that photo for?
17:05:55 <sbp> is it advertising the gun or the woman?
17:06:04 <crschmidt> The desert eagles were a great weapon in Tomb Raider, which is who I'm aware of them.
17:06:10 <crschmidt> (Yes, my weapons knowledge is very limited.)
17:06:17 <kandinski> the photographer
17:06:22 <sbp> heh, heh
17:06:36 <jessica> Yes, I've seen Luhrman's film at least a dozen times.
17:06:37 <jessica> Pourquoi?
17:06:38 <kandinski> the film uses Desert Eagles?
17:06:44 <kandinski> because of the gun porn
17:06:45 <Talliesin> The photoshopper
17:06:53 <sbp> heheh
17:07:04 <kandinski> I loved how they don't change the text, but carve "sabre" and "sword" on the guns' metal
17:07:09 <jessica> Not that I noticed.
17:07:12 <jessica> I loved that too. :)
17:07:14 <sbp> we need to import pourquoi into English
17:07:19 <sbp> @@ say forwhat more often
17:07:20 <jessica> I found the entire thing a travesty.
17:07:21 <supybot> sbp: Error: "@" is not a valid command.
17:07:30 <sbp> @@ whip supybot's ass more often
17:07:31 <supybot> sbp: Error: "@" is not a valid command.
17:07:34 <jessica> Sean, 'pourquoi?' translates as 'why?' not forwhat. :P
17:07:49 <jessica> I mean, it mutilates the Shakespeare, but it's a gorgeous two-hour-long music video. ;)
17:08:03 <jessica> I much preferred Franco Zifferelli's film version.
17:08:17 <Talliesin> http://asylumphotocreation.4t.com/images/dsc_0011c.jpg by the same photoshopper i actually quite like.
17:08:31 <Talliesin> I haven't seen the Zifferelli version in ages.
17:08:35 <sbp> I was rather under the impression that
17:08:40 <sbp> pour = for
17:08:43 <sbp> quoi = what
17:08:49 <sbp> and that therefore it was a compound of those two words
17:09:09 <sbp> does it have an alternate etymology then?
17:09:19 <kandinski> therefore
17:09:27 <kandinski> heh, you are devious, man
17:09:31 <jessica> You are absolutely correct, Sean, but its usage is not necessarily identical to the sum of its parts. :P
17:09:31 <kandinski> i say devious!
17:09:35 <kandinski> "therefore"
17:09:45 <sbp> neither is "therefore"
17:09:57 <kandinski> actually, pourquoi could be translated as "whatfor", in any case
17:10:02 <sbp> but that's the point. the lexicalisation can happen in English in exactly the same way as in French
17:10:05 <sbp> good point
17:10:12 <kandinski> the whatfor being the final cause, and the why the original cause
17:10:15 <Talliesin> So without accurate hindsight it's really danes vs. hussey and dicaprio vs. whiting
17:10:39 <kandinski> danes vs huseey: CATFIGHT!
17:10:44 <jessica> I really despise Luhrmann movies in general.
17:10:51 <jessica> I still am unable to make it through Moulin Rouge.
17:10:59 <kandinski> * kandinski snubs the jessica
17:11:02 <kandinski> you are a philistine
17:11:03 <sbp> too many cute chicks on screen?
17:11:04 <jessica> I know it's popular, but he cannot allow visuals to make their own statements, for Christ's sake.
17:11:09 <jessica> He has to cram fifteen per frame in there.
17:11:17 <jessica> I prefer minimalist films.
17:11:22 <kandinski> Strictly Ballroom is awesome
17:11:26 <sbp> The Ball and the String
17:11:27 <jessica> My favorite film of all time is la vie revee des anges.
17:11:39 <Talliesin> I liked his openings to Romeo & Juliet, but he really should have picked one.
17:11:41 <jessica> I've never seen it, kandinski. Is it less crowded?
17:11:43 <kandinski> Mine is The Liverance
17:11:44 <jessica> I know!
17:11:44 <crschmidt> You've never watched the end of Moulin Rouge.
17:11:50 <jessica> It was so horrible, he can't stop adding more things.
17:12:00 <kandinski> Talliesin, that is very sharp
17:12:09 <kandinski> Strictly Ballroom is not as excessive
17:12:11 <Talliesin> Strictly Ballroom rocks.
17:12:13 <jessica> I never saw it that way either, but I agree.
17:12:16 <sbp> "This low budget French movie, devoid of glamour and set in a grim northern industrial town in the depths of winter, charts intimately and sympathetically the friendship of two young women, who are alienated from their dysfunctional families and struggling for economic survival and emotional fulfillment."
17:12:19 <kandinski> kitschy and campy, but more focused
17:12:23 <jessica> I'll put it on my Netflix queue and up its priority for y'all.
17:12:25 <jessica> I need focus.
17:12:27 <jessica> I need minimalism.
17:12:40 <kandinski> I loved it
17:12:42 <jessica> A friend critiqued how I dressed the other day because she said I never add things. That's my life. I have trouble writing long pieces, as well.
17:13:01 <sbp> I still can't believe AaronSw's favourite is Kill Bill
17:13:02 <jessica> I finish writing what I have to say in 400 words. I'm sorry it's not 750, but if you speak English fluently, you don't need four words where one will do.
17:13:08 <sbp> must ask him to review it one day
17:13:09 <jessica> meh. Tarantino's gone downhill.
17:13:11 <Talliesin> One of Danes' last roles was in Terminator III, one of Hussey's was as Mother Teresa, so Danes should be able to take her.
17:13:26 <jessica> Best Tarantino ever was Jackie Brown.
17:13:36 <kandinski> Mother Teresa was a fucking tough nail
17:13:38 <jessica> I love Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction too, but Jackie Brown had that special feel.
17:13:43 <crschmidt> * crschmidt saw Jackie Brown, right?
17:13:44 <kandinski> I wouldn't try to take her alone
17:13:47 <crschmidt> The one with the drugrunning?
17:13:51 <jessica> Anyone from Albania is.
17:14:02 <jessica> Chris, that could be Traffic, Blow, or any of a half dozen movies I own.
17:14:06 <crschmidt> Hm.
17:14:08 <Talliesin> jessica, do you like Jarman?
17:14:10 <kandinski> John Belushi too
17:14:23 <jessica> I don't own Jackie Brown, but it featured Pam Greer, a gorgeous woman if there ever was one.
17:14:26 <crschmidt> I thought the one with the stewrardess who was running drugs was Jackie Brown.
17:14:34 <jessica> The only Albanians anyone knows are John Belushi and Mother Teresa.
17:14:42 <kandinski> yes
17:14:43 <jessica> An entire economy built post-communism on pyramid schemes.
17:14:46 <crschmidt> * crschmidt still thinks he saw it with you.
17:14:48 <jessica> Yes, that is.
17:14:52 <kandinski> you Albanian?
17:14:52 <jessica> Tallie - don't know it.
17:15:02 <jessica> No. I'm half Acadian and half Scots.
17:15:08 <jessica> Both sides American since the 1700s.
17:15:30 <jessica> But in America, it's a continual battle of one-upmanship to say "we got here before you", so there.
17:15:41 <sbp> Acadian-Scotch?
17:16:01 <Talliesin> jessica, Derek Jarman. British film-maker.
17:16:09 <kandinski> donc le Francais
17:16:09 <jessica> Don't know him, either.
17:16:10 <Talliesin> Alexander the Great is arguably Albanian.
17:16:24 <Talliesin> check him out.
17:16:43 <Talliesin> "Blue" is arguably the ultimate in minimalism, but watch a few of his other films first.
17:16:44 <jessica> Wasn't it the Afghanis who gave him a horrible wife, Roxanne, I believe?
17:16:47 <kandinski> his accent suggfested he was Irish
17:16:55 <Talliesin> lol
17:17:31 <Talliesin> And a skanger, but he's really a posh boy.
17:18:04 <jessica> What exactly defines posh to Britons, anyway?
17:18:06 <jessica> I've never gotten it.
17:18:12 <jessica> A titled person who miraculously has cash on hand?
17:18:23 <sbp> there are many kinds of posh
17:18:39 <jessica> Explain to the ignorant colonial, please.
17:18:48 <sbp> titled + cash doesn't even necessarily mean it, but that'll usually yield tons
17:18:59 <sbp> it's a combination of accent, arrogance, aristocracy, etc.
17:19:17 <Talliesin> He's posh Irish, not posh British, so aristocracy isn't required.
17:19:20 <sbp> there's a good sketch in the Fast Show about this
17:19:27 <Talliesin> What school you went to is a big part of it.
17:19:29 <kandinski> so T, is our Colin boy well-bred?
17:19:37 <kandinski> and playing low-rent?
17:19:40 <kandinski> for kicks?
17:19:44 <sbp> it's the inverse of the Monty Python one
17:19:46 <Monty> simple in french freaks me beside him
17:19:54 <Talliesin> Quite, but his accent is lower working class (when he remembers)
17:19:58 <jessica> What school you go to is more important here than many Americans realise, but there's quite a network of Those Who Know and Not Our Kind, Dear.
17:19:59 <sbp> the lads are sitting around the table aruging about which one of them is most middle class
17:20:10 <sbp> lemme see if I can find a transcript
17:20:17 <kandinski> heh, T I do that in jest a lot
17:20:29 <kandinski> doing the Madrid South simple lower class lad
17:20:34 <jessica> * jessica is fascinated. I'm always interested in a society that demarcates class.
17:20:36 <kandinski> "you know, mate"
17:20:43 <Talliesin> sbp, do you know the Not The Nine O'Clock News one with John Cleese, Ronnie Corbet and Ronnie Barker?
17:20:56 <jessica> in the U.S., it's so hard. there are parts of breeding you can't buy with money, but it's hard to figure out what they are.
17:21:05 <jessica> And no one will admit to any of it here.
17:21:07 <Talliesin> (I'd have to stand up, and for you all to see me adjust my height to recount it I'm afraid).
17:21:33 <sbp> can't find it! but the basic gist is that it's easy to argue and difficult to win
17:21:36 <sbp> Talliesin: woah, nope
17:22:12 <sbp> Talliesin: plot?
17:22:52 <Talliesin> Okay, as you know Cleese is quite tall, and Corbet quite short.
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17:23:33 <sbp> oh!
17:23:37 <sbp> the three classes sketch
17:23:42 <Talliesin> Cleese is in a bowler and smart suit, Barker is in a reasonably okay suit, corbet in a cloth-hat and workman's clothes. They're at a bus-stop.
17:23:43 <sbp> yeah, I know that. absolute classic
17:23:46 <Talliesin> That's the one. Yes.
17:23:54 <sbp> I saw the remake with the three ages one too, though it had Stephen Fry
17:24:11 <sbp> it wasn't on Not The Nine O' Clock News though
17:24:16 <sbp> http://www.screenonline.org.uk/files/1021177.jpg
17:24:16 <Talliesin> The bit where Clease bends his knee to look up at the middle class is the bit American's don't understand.
17:24:30 <sbp> Frost Report
17:24:42 <Talliesin> That Was the week that was or Frost?
17:24:59 <sbp> hmm: http://www.screenonline.org.uk/media/stream.jsp?id=850078
17:25:07 <sbp> pardon?
17:25:39 <sbp> Frost, pretty sure
17:25:50 <kandinski> never seen it
17:25:53 <kandinski> I wish I could
17:26:22 <jessica> Americans can't understand it.
17:26:25 <jessica> Please try to explain. :)
17:26:26 <Talliesin> Gah. What made me think of not the nine o'clock news, that was much later.
17:26:27 <sbp> shame the old institute barrier thing comes up
17:26:39 <sbp> good show though. haven't seen it much
17:26:46 <kandinski> yes, for me at least
17:26:47 <Talliesin> Well that's why it would be good if we could find a video of it, the sketch actually explains the class system very well.
17:26:53 <kandinski> oh
17:27:05 <kandinski> heh, like have you read Yoz Grahame's take on the Google bar?
17:27:14 <kandinski> he explains why it is not all that bad by satire
17:27:18 <kandinski> then Winer gets offended
17:27:26 <kandinski> then Yoz re-explains
17:27:32 <kandinski> then Winer demands an explanation
17:27:38 <kandinski> so Yoz re-re-explains
17:27:41 <sbp> http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk/3men.html
17:27:50 <kandinski> quite MontyPithonesque, actually
17:27:53 <Monty> i run anarchically, i put up 12:49, 1 inch
17:28:02 <sbp> but you *really* need to see it
17:28:15 <jessica> I had to hear Mr Winer on the radio this morning.
17:28:17 <jessica> Truly, it was unholy.
17:28:31 <kandinski> http://cheerleader.yoz.com/archives/001927.html
17:28:36 <kandinski> check him out
17:28:38 <kandinski> he is good
17:28:48 <sbp> jessica: oh! could you hear Morbus in the background?
17:28:49 <jsled> http://asynchronous.org/tmp/bush-ape.png -- there is no way this photo and ad are coincidentally next to each other...
17:30:02 <sbp> heh
17:31:25 <jessica> No, Morbus does not star on the local public radio programmes. :P
17:31:41 <jessica> * jessica looks about for crschmidt. he'd made some noises about coming home for lunch, which I'd adore, but I need to ask him to bring some things.
17:31:47 <sbp> he said he was going to go up and bang o nthe plexiglass
17:31:54 <sbp> s/o n/on /
17:31:59 <jessica> ELAINE!!!!!
17:32:01 <jessica> sorry. :)
17:32:17 <jessica> * jessica idly wonders if these British film mavens have seen The Graduate.
17:32:28 <sbp> I don't watch many films
17:32:29 <kandinski> * kandinski raises hand
17:32:32 <Talliesin> * Talliesin shouldn't have shown jessica the deagle pictures.
17:32:39 <sbp> but... I think I saw a bit of it
17:32:40 <Talliesin> Drink plenty of fluids crschmidt.
17:32:46 <jessica> * jessica snerks.
17:32:46 <kandinski> I am British by association only, but I loved it
17:32:53 <sbp> odd that I didn't watch it all, now I think about it. Dustin Hoffman's great
17:33:01 <jessica> He's wonderful in that film.
17:33:07 <jessica> I watched it compulsively when I started seeing Mr. Schmidt.
17:33:14 <Talliesin> First saw that when I was like 5 or 6.
17:33:16 <jessica> I should put seeing in quotes, there, as we were talking more than seeing.
17:33:25 <sbp> you tasted it too?
17:33:26 <Talliesin> Obviously I didn't really grok it at the time.
17:33:33 <jessica> Right.
17:34:06 <sbp> * sbp pictures a bit of film roll coming out of jessica's mouth, with her burping, covering her mouth with her hand, and looking in that odd "oops!" manner that people sometimes do by squatting a few inches and looking towards the wall
17:34:07 <jessica> But I was a 21 year old married woman with two children at the time. He was a 19 year old home from uni, where he was reading computer engineering, and living with his parents who still set him a bedtime.
17:34:17 <sbp> and grimacing
17:34:32 <jessica> There were only six years' age difference between Anne Bancroft and Dustin Hoffman, but still. :)
17:34:39 <twe> Anne is a bit years?
17:34:44 <jessica> I also listened to Simon and Garfunkel quite a bit back then.
17:34:49 <jessica> twe, go Monty the twe
17:34:52 <Monty> Yes Talliesin, I live in these tools is random, so yeah...
17:34:56 <sbp> hello Monty my old friend
17:34:57 <twe> jessica: Twe monty monty twe monty twe.
17:35:00 <Monty> ta urgen :) (assuming you're using for run-lenght encoding?
17:35:01 <sbp> I've come to speak with you again
17:35:02 <Monty> according to fill out :) all users matching <mask> on large capacity cards for personal endeavor of proportion
17:35:23 <crschmidt> heh. fluids.
17:35:27 <crschmidt> i'm thirsty. no money. sigh.
17:35:30 <jessica> Mr Schmidt!
17:35:37 <jessica> You're supposed to be coming home for luncheon.
17:35:38 <crschmidt> Whatda i need to get?
17:35:40 <crschmidt> yeah, i know
17:35:45 <jessica> Lunch would be nice. :)
17:35:52 <sbp> has jessica's army survival training taught you nothing?
17:35:56 <sbp> drink your own urine
17:36:02 <sbp> or collect rainwater from the roof
17:36:04 <sbp> or ask the natives
17:36:15 <crschmidt> what kind of lunch?
17:36:26 <sbp> heh
17:36:54 <jessica> Anything, really. You could get fast food and I'd not raise an eyebrow.
17:37:04 <jessica> In fact, that'd probably relieve Alicia and Julianne quite a bit.
17:37:05 <JibberJim> you can't eat a Cheetah!
17:37:13 <jessica> They've had tofu nuggets for dinner last night.
17:37:17 <jessica> They've suffered enough for one 24 hour period.
17:37:18 <JibberJim> I suppose Tuna is pretty fast though, and that's allowed.
17:37:29 <JibberJim> tofu nuggets ain't fast, they hardly move at all!
17:37:37 <sbp> do not eat a Peregrine Falcon
17:37:43 <sbp> you wouldn't be able to catch it anyway
17:38:08 <jessica> I've no particular interest in eating falcons. Vegetarian, remember?
17:38:17 <crschmidt> 12:38:03 -mobibot:#mobitopia- 1.00 GBP = 1.92 USD
17:38:18 <crschmidt> sigh
17:38:18 <sbp> falcons are plants, surely?
17:38:36 <jessica> that's actually not bad, Chris.
17:38:42 <jessica> It's been as high as 2.20.
17:38:42 <crschmidt> "Please, Bush, continue to lead our contry into the shithole."
17:39:02 <jessica> I remember Douglas Adams' writing about the cow that had bred by the plants that specifically wanted to be eaten.
17:39:25 <crschmidt> jessica: Not recently, unless you're aware of some currency fluctuation that I"m not.
17:39:28 <jessica> "The vegetarians were upsetting the plants quite a bit, with all their talk about animals not wanting to be eaten. So they bred me. I've been eating lots of grain and exercising my rump -- a steak from there should be quite nice . . ."
17:39:38 <DrBacchus> Right. I'll just nip off and shoot myself, shall I?
17:39:42 <jessica> Chris, these things happen. It's very good for exports.
17:39:48 <jessica> "Don't worry, sir, I'll be very humane."
17:39:51 <DrBacchus> Douglas Adams++
17:40:33 <Talliesin> That's the second time that talking animals come up today.
17:40:38 <crschmidt> latest (Feb 28)
17:40:38 <crschmidt> 1.9249 lowest (Sep 7)
17:40:38 <crschmidt> 1.7733 highest (Dec 20)
17:40:39 <crschmidt> 1.9482
17:40:49 <sbp> .gc MacEspagnola
17:40:54 <phenny> no results found.
17:40:57 <Talliesin> oh, http://www.savetoby.com/
17:41:10 <jessica> Is that the bunny that someone found under their porch and want to be paid not to eat?
17:41:19 <sbp> "Don't worry, sir, I'll be very humane."--heh, yeah
17:41:27 <jessica> I'm utterly unable to remember who told me about that but I believe my exact words were, "Vegetarian or not, bugger the goddamn bunny."
17:41:28 <sbp> was that from Restaurant At... or Mostly Harmless?
17:41:38 <jessica> Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
17:41:42 <jessica> It took PLACE in the restaurant.
17:41:47 <sbp> thanks
17:41:50 <jessica> I always wanted him to describe the Big Bang Burger Bar.
17:42:08 <crschmidt> "Another dream, dashed against the rocks."
17:42:51 <Talliesin> The toby recipes look good, I might try one or two of the simpler ones.
17:43:01 <sbp> 16,380.18? that must be a joke
17:43:17 <sbp> they must get some interesting emails
17:43:31 <Talliesin> It was 15,000 odd last time I saw it, so it is actually increasing if it's a joke.
17:43:35 <jessica> I've no doubt it's not a joke.
17:43:38 <jessica> People are utter idiots.
17:43:49 <jessica> I should put up photos of my house here and start the "hire a maid" fund.
17:44:12 <sbp> or you'll eat crschmidt?
17:44:26 <jessica> Or I'll clean the bloody place.
17:44:42 <Talliesin> I keep thinking of getting into BSDM and humiliation. Just so I could have someone clean the place and they'd actually pay me.
17:44:48 <jessica> But I don't know, perhaps I'll threaten to detonate a bomb or some such.
17:44:52 <jessica> It'd be lovely, no?
17:45:02 <jessica> Too bad I'm on the submissive side, but perhaps I could learn to crack a whip.
17:45:16 <Talliesin> Eh, Not BSDM, BDSM (I'm such a square).
17:45:30 <Talliesin> Or you could just clean up.
17:45:35 <jessica> Easier said than done.
17:45:41 <jessica> I have two small children and four cats running about.
17:45:56 <Talliesin> See, you're not submissive enough either.
17:45:56 <jessica> Ideally, I would have only three cats, but my goddamn roommate, who has moved out except for the final formalities, insists on leaving her cat here.
17:46:13 <jessica> Her cat terrorises my three cats, is going steadily feral, and drives me absolutely mad.
17:46:54 <Talliesin> Though I suppose you need someone to tell you to clean for the submissive side to kick in.
17:46:59 <crschmidt> .gc "my goddamn roomate"
17:47:04 <phenny> "my goddamn roomate": 2
17:47:07 <Talliesin> Let's have an affair, then both our houses will be clean!
17:47:26 <jessica> Darling Tallie, as appealing as that sounds, we're not sexually attracted to each other.
17:47:34 <jessica> The motivation in S&M simply wouldn't be there.
17:48:16 <crschmidt> Jess. Pick a food.
17:48:20 <crschmidt> Tell me what to get.
17:48:26 <jessica> Fast food.
17:48:35 <kandinski> BSDM?
17:48:45 <crschmidt> Pick which.
17:48:51 <crschmidt> .acronym bdsm
17:48:59 <phenny> BDSM: Bondage & Discipline / Domination & Submission / Sadism & Masochism -/- Black Dragon Scale Mail (Nethack)
17:49:19 <Talliesin> .acronym bsdm
17:49:25 <kandinski> M-BSD?
17:49:25 <phenny> BSDM: Business Systems Development Method
17:49:28 <kandinski> Meta BSD
17:49:31 <jessica> Alicia wants chicken tenders and chips, Chris.
17:49:33 <jessica> Forgive me.
17:49:36 <jessica> Chicken tenders and fries.
17:49:36 <crschmidt> chips?
17:49:40 <kandinski> the BSD variant made of all the BSD variants
17:49:43 <crschmidt> Thanks.
17:49:45 <jessica> I keep on forgetting to switch from English to American.
17:49:51 <Talliesin> See, I try to talk dirty I end up talking about business systems development methods
17:49:53 <jessica> Julianne will want the same, of course.
17:50:11 <kandinski> Talliesin, it happens to all of us
17:50:22 <Talliesin> All I wanted was a cleaner house.
17:50:34 <sbp> <Ringo> But here we call french fries "chips".
17:52:22 <jessica> It's really quite bad. Do other Americans remember to speak English when speaking to the English, so to speak?
17:52:37 <Talliesin> Only the cultured ones.
17:52:40 <kandinski> jessica, do you do the boot and bonnet trick too?
17:52:43 <Talliesin> So your the second one I've met.
17:52:50 <kandinski> only the cultured ones who *care*.
17:52:55 <jessica> Chris always complains, and even yelled at me once for saying "nappy" instead of diaper.
17:52:57 <kandinski> and you are the first one I've met
17:52:59 <jessica> It's not a caring thing, though.
17:53:04 <jessica> It's reflexive.
17:53:16 <jessica> yes, kandinski.
17:53:17 <kandinski> didja grow around brits?
17:53:30 <jessica> No. Raised in New York and then Boston.
17:53:40 <jessica> Maybe I read too many Agatha Christie novels in my formative years. :shrug:
17:53:42 <Talliesin> "do you do the boot and bonnet trick too?" - that sounds much kinkier than it probably was intended to.
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17:53:53 <kandinski> yes
17:53:54 <kandinski> heh
17:53:55 <Talliesin> * Talliesin needs to stop thinking about cleaning, it's colouring how he's reading things.
17:54:02 <kandinski> blammo too
17:54:04 <sbp> Morbus! did you bang on the plexiglass?
17:54:25 <jessica> And yell "ELAINE!", don't forget.
17:54:32 <Talliesin> jessica, start calling the "napkins"
17:54:42 <sbp> I wonder if they did that in Seinfeld too?
17:54:54 <jessica> I always call them napkins, not serviettes.
17:55:10 <sbp> serviettes is fine here, though napkins is more trad.
17:55:22 <jessica> oh!
17:55:28 <Talliesin> No, start calling diapers napkins, strictly "nappy" is just short for napkin.
17:55:29 <jessica> I did irritate a friend when I offered her a napkin for her menses.
17:55:56 <sbp> oh, I see
17:56:32 <kandinski> what is it about blanging on the plexiglas?
17:56:37 <sbp> heh. "napkin for your menses?" is the new "penny for your thoughts?"
17:56:39 <kandinski> one "s", sbp, it is a trademark
17:56:48 <kandinski> it should be Plexiglas(TM) really
17:57:08 <kandinski> napkin is to penny what menses is to thoughts?
17:57:15 <Talliesin> lol
17:57:20 <sbp> heh, heh
17:57:26 <Talliesin> then cough uncontrollably
17:57:30 <Talliesin> then lol some mroe
17:57:31 <Talliesin> more
17:57:33 <jetscreamer> funny, servietta or however you spell it is napkin in spanish
17:57:42 <kandinski> YES
17:57:45 <jessica> It's serviette in French.
17:57:48 <kandinski> *SnotD, etc
17:57:51 <kandinski> Servilleta
17:57:52 <jessica> And that's the iconic final scene of The Graduate.
17:57:54 <sbp> yeah, french loadnword
17:57:58 <sbp> er, leaon
17:58:00 <sbp> laonreg?
17:58:15 <Morbus> eh oh.
17:58:18 <sbp> laongarhg... calm down. deep breahrths. ooh, it's not working. anyway: loanwords
17:58:21 <kandinski> leonidas?
17:58:31 <sbp> er. loanword. damnit!
17:58:33 <sbp> eh oh Morby
17:58:37 <jetscreamer> french londonword?
17:58:41 <jetscreamer> ah
17:58:44 <Talliesin> At this rate they'll have asked for it back by the time you've described it.
17:58:44 <sbp> .gc Londonword
17:58:49 <phenny> no results found.
17:58:49 <sbp> yeah...
17:59:03 <jessica> Talliesin -- that reminds me of an adorable statement Julianne, the inspiration for juliebot, made.
17:59:18 <sbp> "no statements found"?
17:59:29 <jessica> She was describing something to me while I was driving, and asked, "Look!" about a half dozen times until I told her "I'm driving, I can't look, but I'll take your word for it."
17:59:32 <jessica> She screamed "GIVE ME BACK MY WORD!"
17:59:39 <crschmidt> Julie isn't the inspiration for the juliebot.
17:59:46 <jessica> She's not?
17:59:46 <sbp> heh
18:00:02 <sbp> it's funny how you can both give someone and steal a kiss simultaneously
18:00:18 <crschmidt> Nope.
18:00:35 <jsled> .g inspiration for the bot named julie
18:00:37 <phenny> inspiration for the bot named julie: http://www.langmaker.com/200003.htm
18:00:43 <sbp> the inspiration is Dracula's second daughter, Millie
18:00:52 <crschmidt> http://swhack.com/logs/2004-09-03#T01-56-30
18:00:59 <crschmidt> "Julie's name came from a short discussion in #swhack, viewable in log form in swhack's logs. Inventive I am not, so julie-the-bot (as opposed to Julie-the-child) was born."
18:01:49 <sbp> TIME FOR REVOLUTION
18:02:00 <jessica> Julianne will undoubtedly be at the forefront of it.
18:02:01 <crschmidt> Right.
18:02:10 <crschmidt> hm?
18:02:26 <Talliesin> * Talliesin remembers he has chocolate :)
18:02:28 <jessica> I'm rather proud of her. She's fascinated with computers, puzzlemaking, and working with counters and abacuses and such.
18:02:49 <sbp> vorsprung durch Julianne
18:03:07 <jessica> I anticipate having a little geek girl on my hands. :)
18:03:17 <crschmidt> She also took apart the lamp last night.
18:03:23 <crschmidt> I think she was intrigued by the lampshade.
18:03:29 <sbp> <crschmidt> and made an iMac out of it
18:03:36 <jessica> :snerk:
18:03:39 <eaon> haha sbp
18:03:43 <Talliesin> giving and taking kisses can differ
18:03:45 <jessica> * jessica wanders off to lug an entire large trash bag of recycling.
18:04:14 <crschmidt> Alright, outta here. be home for lunch in a bit
18:04:14 <Talliesin> Sadhbh's into computers too, but quite right-brain also
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18:04:42 <kandinski> talliesin, but as Carroll pointed out, the more you like a kiss, the more eagerly you return it
18:04:48 <kandinski> unless you are tied down, that is
18:04:53 <kandinski> or cleaning
18:05:37 <Talliesin> My wife is a regular on a web board for mummies where the euphemism for sexual relations is knitting.
18:05:41 <chrismobile> *** chrismobile (~chrismobi@m415e36d0.tmodns.net) has joined #swhack
18:05:50 <Talliesin> that was weird enough without the cleaning
18:05:58 <sbp> knit one, p(ea|u)rl two...
18:06:00 <Talliesin> chrismobile, EYES ON THE ROAD!
18:06:28 <kandinski> Talliesin, he DID say IT!
18:07:07 <sbp> Talliesin: where did you get the idea for naming Sadhbh Sadhbh, if you don't mind me asking? it's possibly the greatest name in existence
18:07:24 <Talliesin> .g Sadhbh Oisin
18:07:26 <phenny> Sadhbh Oisin: http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/1Kids/StoryofSadhbh.html
18:07:37 <sbp> thanks
18:08:00 <libby> *** libby (~libby@67.130.108.51) has joined #swhack
18:08:27 <Talliesin> Hmm, that's different to the version I know.
18:09:33 <Talliesin> Close though.
18:09:45 <Talliesin> It literally means "sweetness".
18:10:23 <Talliesin> We'd hoped it would be a relatively unusual name, but not a weird name (here anyway). But if I shout out "Sadhbh" in a playground there'll be 5 kids looking at me going "you're not my daddy"
18:10:57 <bjoern_> Monty: help remind
18:10:58 <Monty> Help: "Monty: remind me in [duration] to|that [task] - eg - remind me in 1 hour and 30 minutes to get my bike fixed"
18:11:11 <bjoern_> .t EST
18:11:13 <phenny> Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:11:10 EST
18:11:13 <sbp> hmm!
18:11:17 <sbp> it's an interesting tale
18:12:02 <bjoern_> Monty: remind me in 1 hour and 15 minutes that the joint meeting starts soonishly...
18:12:03 <Monty> bjoern_: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Tue Mar 01 19:27:02 GMT 2005
18:12:16 <L> *** L (~chrismobi@m515e36d0.tmodns.net) has joined #swhack
18:12:18 <sbp> .gc soonishly
18:12:21 <sbp> L?
18:12:23 <phenny> soonishly: 720
18:12:31 <jessica> Tallie -- good luck. I've met four Juliannes in the past four years.
18:12:44 <jessica> And Alicia's as common as dirt, though I didn't pick it.
18:13:01 <jessica> Though strictly speaking I picked neither; I named Julianne after relatives, in hope of making the peace with them.
18:13:05 <L> Hiya
18:13:17 <jessica> Instead, they were upset that two different relatives were honored with the same name.
18:13:17 <L> It failed.
18:13:21 <jessica> Good afternoon, Mr. Schmidt.
18:13:23 <jessica> Everything fails.
18:13:29 <L> Yep.
18:13:45 <sbp> you should've used an empty document
18:14:12 <sbp> " Allan-Schmidt"
18:14:16 <Talliesin> I'm a bit more callous than that, and have cut entire branches of the family tree out of my life.
18:14:17 <sbp> (note the initial space)
18:14:44 <sbp> Morbus did *all* of his
18:14:44 <jessica> Tallie -- ironically, after the divorce, my in-laws have come to really like my choice of replacement for their son/brother/grandson, etc.
18:14:57 <jessica> In fact, my 90 year old grandmother-in-law wants to meet Chris, as he looks like "such a nice young man".
18:15:03 <jessica> She complimented me on my choice to divorce her grandson.
18:15:04 <L> That's cause i rock.
18:15:07 <bjoern_> space, the initial frontier...
18:15:09 <jessica> She added he'd never accomplish anything anyway.
18:15:13 <sbp> bjoern_: hehe
18:15:18 <Morbus> huh?
18:15:26 <sbp> L: why L?
18:15:28 <jessica> Morbus -- we're talking about relationships with family.
18:15:30 <sbp> hmm?
18:15:35 <Morbus> ah.
18:15:40 <jessica> Sean said that you destroyed your relationship with all of yours.
18:15:43 <Morbus> mine is best described as: what family?
18:15:50 <jessica> Understandably.
18:15:52 <Morbus> yes, quite deliberately so.
18:15:54 <Talliesin> Béibhinn appears to be rarer than we thought, Aobha is heard of in Ireland but for a while she totally owned the google results for Aobha. Fiach is rare, but there's a famous Fiach (but centuries back, so it's not like we named him after a celebrity or anything).
18:15:55 <L> First letter i hit.
18:16:12 <sbp> yes. I actually said "cut all branches"
18:16:30 <L> Wow. Phone destroyed that name.
18:16:30 <jessica> Morbus -- for people of your background, it's a tempting choice.
18:16:39 <jessica> it destroyed it for me as well, Chris.
18:16:49 <sbp> .gc B bhinn
18:16:54 <phenny> B bhinn: 17
18:16:54 <sbp> .gc Béibhinn
18:16:58 <phenny> Béibhinn: 11,300
18:17:08 <L> I'm assuming it isn't supposed to have a copyrigt symbol.
18:17:10 <jessica> :snerk:
18:17:17 <jessica> Which one's UTF?
18:17:24 <Morbus> my background? the hell does that mean.
18:17:24 <sbp> the latter
18:17:26 <Talliesin> Begone L and your legacy character set.
18:17:38 <L> The latter.
18:17:42 <Talliesin> LOL @ Morbus
18:18:06 <jessica> * jessica pms.
18:18:12 <jessica> It means the red and black you affect on your webpages, clearly.
18:18:16 <sbp> don't go using that old excuse
18:18:32 <Morbus> Talliesin: what? <g>
18:18:34 <sbp> [badump-tish]
18:18:43 <sbp> and effect! effect!
18:19:12 <jessica> He chooses to use them to hurt my eyes.
18:19:21 <jessica> IT BURRRRRNSSS USS. NASTY ELVES CODED IT.
18:19:32 <sbp> these sandwich elves
18:20:06 <DrBacchus> <blink>Elves</blink>
18:20:21 <Talliesin> Code elves are tricksy
18:20:25 <L> That's the old keebler place!
18:20:45 <jessica> Nasty. Tricksy. False.
18:20:59 <jessica> oh, chris
18:21:00 <jessica> ?
18:21:06 <L> Food, food, where is my food.
18:21:09 <L> Yes?
18:21:23 <jessica> When our daughter protested her medication this morning by pulling her screaming fit, she actually managed to sound exactly like Gollum.
18:21:35 <jessica> I wanted to ask her to say "precious" in that voice but thought it best not to encourage her.
18:23:30 <Talliesin> Nasty elf medicine. It burns!
18:23:49 <jessica> It's that her neurological medications are doing bugger all to help.
18:24:04 <jessica> I rang her neurologist this morning, to get permission to pull her off it.
18:24:46 <jessica> I'm sympathetic -- she was on an SNRI, I was on an SSRI -- did nothing for me, did nothing for her.
18:25:42 <L> Mm. Done time.
18:26:45 <DrBacchus> ... if it wasn't for those darned kids and their pesky dog.
18:27:33 <sbp> heh, heh
18:27:36 <sbp> ruh roh
18:27:42 <jessica> It's Dr. Gollum, who owns the haunted amusement park!
18:27:51 <jessica> I have a poll in my LiveJournal on the topic!
18:27:55 <jessica> * jessica googles for it.
18:28:28 <jessica> http://www.livejournal.com/poll/?id=343318
18:31:07 <jetscreamer> -_-
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18:33:08 <sbp> Favourite character:
18:33:08 <sbp> Velma.
18:33:08 <sbp> 47 (49.0%) 47 (49.0%)
18:33:17 <sbp> Is Velma a lesbian:
18:33:17 <sbp> Yes.
18:33:18 <sbp> 63 (65.6%) 63 (65.6%)
18:33:25 <sbp> shows a lot about your readers
18:33:40 <Morbus> time to get new readers.
18:33:41 <jetscreamer> i don't see velma in the original as a lesbian
18:33:50 <jetscreamer> maybe the movies
18:34:04 <jetscreamer> but while we own them, i haven't watched them
18:34:11 <sbp> heh, Fred totally lost
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18:40:55 <Talliesin> Velma's totally a dyke.
18:42:31 <Morbus> wasn't there an IE for Linux released?
18:42:38 <crschmidt> Not that I'm aware of.
18:42:42 <DrBacchus> "hitting the ganja" ?
18:42:44 <jsled> solaris, I believe.
18:42:51 <jsled> a long time ago.
18:43:00 <jessica> American slang for smoking marijuana.
18:43:05 <jessica> Or eating it, if you're into hash brownies.
18:43:06 <DrBacchus> Ah.
18:43:18 <jessica> Something's got to explain their huge amount of food consumption.
18:43:39 <Morbus> ah: http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/default.asp
18:43:42 <crschmidt> .g internet explorer linux
18:43:43 <phenny> internet explorer linux: http://monster-island.org/tinashumor/humor/ielinux.html
18:43:43 <jsled> Morbus: or maybe hp-ux or AIX or something.
18:43:46 <crschmidt> hm.
18:43:52 <crschmidt> that's not what google gives me
18:44:00 <crschmidt> I get "linux.ie"
18:44:05 <jsled> heh.
18:44:18 <crschmidt> Which has, so far as I can tell, nothing about internet explorer on it.
18:44:24 <crschmidt> Which makes me think that google is trying to be smart.
18:44:42 <jsled> .gc internet explorer solaris
18:44:46 <phenny> internet explorer solaris: 2,500,000
18:44:46 <jsled> .gc internet explorer hp-ux
18:44:47 <jsled> .gc internet explorer aix
18:44:52 <jsled> .gc internet explorer linux
18:44:52 <phenny> internet explorer hp-ux: 479,000
18:44:57 <phenny> internet explorer linux: 8,630,000
18:44:59 <phenny> internet explorer aix: 814,000
18:46:00 <Morbus> [[[
18:46:01 <Morbus> > FireFox is an open-source standalone browser developed by the Mozilla
18:46:01 <Morbus> > Foundation and often promoted as an alternative to Microsoft's Internet
18:46:01 <Morbus> > Explorer (although it also runs on Linux and Macs).
18:46:01 <Morbus> >
18:46:01 <Morbus> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox
18:46:02 <sbp> "We sincerely apologize, but Internet Explorer technologies for UNIX are no longer available for download." - they ever were?
18:46:03 <Morbus> And, for the pedantics, it's officially "Mozilla Firefox", and Internet Explorer also runs natively on Macs, and with WINE on Linux, and once ran natively on HP/UX and Solaris, but MS took it down:
18:46:06 <Morbus> http://randomfire.fierymill.net/archives/
18:46:08 <Morbus> 2005/01/04/internet-explorer-and-linux/
18:46:10 <Morbus> http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/default.asp
18:46:12 <Morbus> http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=2477
18:46:14 <Morbus> ]]]
18:46:21 <sbp> whoops, sorry. full ass-wavage there, but unintentional
18:46:39 <jessica> I REALLY want to startle a sex partner someday by screaming "PIKACHU, I CHOOSE YOU!" at climax.
18:46:52 <Morbus> <-- done that.
18:46:56 <sbp> haha
18:47:05 <jsled> how'd it go?
18:47:19 <Morbus> i think she's grown used to it.
18:47:28 <jsled> classy.
18:47:39 <Morbus> well, grown use to me and my .... . . stuff.
18:47:50 <jessica> I really must meet you, Morbus, if for only seeing the haggard look of the woman you torture^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hlove and adore.
18:47:54 <sbp> Morbus's Legendary Stuff!
18:48:14 <sbp> sorry:
18:48:15 <jessica> Personally, I used to have Stuff going too, but the doctors gave me medication.
18:48:21 <sbp> Morbus's Legendary .... . . Stuff!
18:50:24 <crschmidt> NAKED
18:50:52 <jessica> these days, [off] is trendier than Dolce & Gabbana.
18:51:21 <Morbus> * Morbus sighs.
18:51:32 <sbp> o/~ I love you *most* of all, my favourite Vega-Table o/~
18:54:00 <sbp> o/~ sherry of course! o/~
18:54:40 <bjoern_> .gc "<?xml version='3D'?>"
18:54:43 <sbp> .gc goatse "savoir faire"
18:54:45 <phenny> "": 4,480
18:54:50 <phenny> goatse "savoir faire": 6
18:54:52 <bjoern_> huh?
18:55:02 <sbp> phenny: gc "<?xml version='3D'?>"
18:55:10 <phenny> "<?xml version='3D'?>": 4,480
18:55:29 <sbp> use xena, expect bugs
18:55:36 <bjoern_> heh
18:57:35 <L> Heh.
18:59:30 <L> Sherry?
18:59:37 <sbp> of course
18:59:56 <sbp> it does sound different though
19:00:03 <sbp> but I looked it up
19:00:19 <L> * L plays boggle. Er, boggles.
19:01:22 <L> Need to write an update interface for witw
19:01:42 <sbp> Wind In The Willows is perfect as it is, thanks
19:02:40 <L> ^witw shutup
19:02:42 <julie> No such user. (list index out of range)
19:02:56 <sbp> pwned
19:03:49 <L> It was intentional.
19:04:02 <sbp> backpeddlar
19:04:55 <sbp> YOUR TEUTONIC GENE IS POWERLESS TO RESIST
19:05:09 <L> Heh.
19:05:16 <L> Anyway.
19:06:10 <L> Work. Bleh.Wonder if i can call in sick.
19:06:35 <sbp> .excuse
19:06:55 <sbp> hmm
19:07:04 <sbp> .excuse
19:07:05 <xena> sbp, your packets were eaten by the terminator
19:07:19 <sbp> "sorry boss, I can't come in today. my packets..."
19:09:06 <crschmidt> heh
19:10:57 <Morbus> hrm. this looks good http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Writing-and-Humanistic-Studies/21W-765JSpring2003/CourseHome/index.htm
19:15:46 <kandinski> .excuse
19:15:55 <kandinski> I need a lot of those today
19:15:58 <deltab> sbp: "that sounds painful -- have you seen a doctor?"
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19:19:39 <DrBacchus> People who can't tell the difference between upper-case and lower-case letters REALLY IRRITATE ME.
19:19:49 <twe> The difference is the one who mentioned it. I test everything else is lower.
19:20:22 <DrBacchus> Contexts: Programming and other computer-related activities.
19:20:49 <crschmidt> Is it okay if they're blind?
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19:25:04 <thelsdj> UPPER CASE LETTERS ARE GOOD FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT THE SUBJECT YOU"RE DISCUSSING!@$@!!@@
19:26:07 <DrBacchus> Bloody windows file systems.
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19:26:38 <crschmidt> 14:24:30 < twe> Dave2: So that i really have been a jcowan entry that he's the goatse man?
19:26:49 <twe> See you in an entry in the logs for me: 216.177.24.
19:26:59 <crschmidt> hey, that's me!
19:27:07 <crschmidt> twe: you forgot the .154
19:27:09 <Monty> bjoern_: You asked me to remind you that the joint meeting starts soonishly...
19:27:24 <twe> crschmidt: [Off] it's 5:30 am and i was all "so wait, what if i can use* i'd be very glad to see you forgot the .154.
19:28:27 <jessica> chris?
19:28:45 <crschmidt> Yes?
19:28:51 <jessica> I do hope you weren't on IRC at half past five in the morning because I'm tired of suffering sexual deprivation in favor of coding applications for a telephone.
19:29:15 <jessica> Also, for future reference, no matter how fascinating it is to you, I really don't care much what the traffic pattern is like in Paris.
19:29:17 <crschmidt> i wasn't, as far as I'm aware.
19:29:21 <crschmidt> I know.
19:29:27 <jessica> Thanks. :)
19:29:41 <crschmidt> note that twe was the one that was up at 5:30am.
19:29:42 <crschmidt> Not me.
19:29:56 <DrBacchus> I was up at 5:30am.
19:29:56 <twe> The current temperature in manchester, new hampshire is 30 f. Conditions: mostly cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew point: 5 f. Windchill: 6 f. Pressure: 30.
19:30:03 <crschmidt> So was I.
19:30:05 <crschmidt> But I was changing a diaper.
19:30:07 <crschmidt> Not coding.
19:30:32 <jessica> You really should have roused me. You didn't have to do that.
19:30:45 <jessica> Doc -- Schmidty has the advantage of living a 6 minute commute away from his office.
19:32:42 <bjoern_> Monty, thanks.
19:32:44 <Monty> since there you at cnet.com
19:34:17 <kandinski> know-how
19:34:30 <kandinski> .gc goatse know-how
19:34:31 <phenny> goatse know-how: 7,200
19:36:00 <jessica> If there's a goatse.cx-inspired anal dilation tutorial, I don't want to know about it.
19:36:38 <jsled> .gc goatse pumpkin
19:36:39 <phenny> goatse pumpkin: 5,890
19:36:41 <jsled> .g goatse pumpkin
19:36:42 <phenny> goatse pumpkin: http://www.ihatemycubicle.com/2004/10/goatse_pumpkin.html
19:38:46 <jsled> There we go: http://sam.zoy.org/fun/goatse/pumpkin.jpeg
19:38:52 <jsled> much better. flames and everything.
19:42:39 <jessica> * jessica is away: the siren of housecleaning calls my name
19:47:20 <crschmidt> sam!
19:47:30 <crschmidt> sam hangs out in idlerpg-discuss with us
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19:54:16 <kandinski> CHEATERS
19:54:21 <MoiraA> evening
19:54:23 <kandinski> idlerpg-discuss?
19:54:30 <crschmidt> yep
19:54:31 <kandinski> IDLERPG-DISCUSS!!!!
19:54:37 <crschmidt> #idlerpg-discuss ! :)
19:54:41 <kandinski> (bah)
19:54:44 <kandinski> no fun
19:54:50 <kandinski> evening Moira!
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20:04:09 <Morbus> my hands are peeling like a mtherfucker.
20:04:11 <Morbus> have been for weeks.
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20:07:09 <jessica> Bag Balm.
20:07:16 <jessica> You know, that stuff farmers use on cow teats?
20:07:17 <Morbus> Burt can shove his Bees up his ass.
20:07:24 <Morbus> I don't use medicinal products.
20:07:29 <Morbus> well, i take vitamins. nevermind.
20:07:31 <jessica> It's a green tin that goes back to the turn of the century.
20:07:40 <jessica> do you practice homeopathy?
20:08:12 <Morbus> LA LA LA LA
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20:15:38 <deltab> .gc workopathy
20:15:40 <phenny> no results found.
20:15:48 <deltab> .gc schoolopathy
20:15:52 <phenny> no results found.
20:17:27 <jessica> * jessica snerks at deltab.
20:17:37 <jessica> I think homeopathy is bunk, but some people believe it. I don't get why.
20:18:25 <jessica> * jessica stares.
20:18:26 <jessica> [[[
20:18:28 <jessica> jessica merci beaucoup, monty.
20:18:28 <jessica> Monty foresight's large-print dumps reminds me of metronome's self-contained buttocks.
20:18:29 <jessica> ]]]
20:18:32 <Monty> Although the docs now. I'll do :) well glass_... to end the config file.
20:18:33 <Monty> rebellious last MS-DOS fantasises about talking plug-and-play pork-pies!!!
20:18:38 <jessica> that's a bit odd even for Monty.
20:18:39 <Monty> boiling paradise...
20:19:17 <DrBacchus> Mmmm. plug-and-play pork-pies
20:19:50 <jsled> .gc medicalpathy
20:19:55 <phenny> no results found.
20:20:08 <jsled> .gc pockyopathy
20:20:13 <phenny> no results found.
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20:28:02 <fap3> is montry crazy ?
20:28:05 <fap3> is monty crazy ?
20:28:06 <Monty> :/
20:29:57 <DrBacchus> Monty makes perfect sense to me. Perhaps the problem is on your end.
20:29:59 <Monty> btw. Symbian Signing?
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20:32:31 <fap3> maaan
20:33:13 <fap3> why are there no file movement notification mechanisms
20:33:40 <jsled> fap3: like, on the filesystem?
20:33:43 <fap3> even DNotify/FAM doesn't do recursive directories and movements..
20:33:47 <fap3> jsled: yeah..
20:33:54 <fap3> i need to know when a file is renamed or moved..
20:34:08 <fap3> keep track of where it is as long as the data inside remains unchanged..
20:34:09 <jsled> ah ... all I'm aware of is FAM, so, there you go.
20:34:12 <jsled> USE FAM.
20:34:15 <fap3> fam doesn't do that.
20:34:28 <fap3> fam just monitors a single directory afaik. dnotify can't do more
20:34:36 <fap3> and it hasn't even been ported to win32, either :(
20:34:42 <jsled> USE IT ANWAYSY.
20:40:53 <bancus> .NET has DirectoryListeners
20:41:09 <bancus> christ, I'm lagging like a bitch
21:06:44 <fap3> gah .net :P
21:07:29 <crschmidt> inotify doesn't do that?
21:07:58 <bjoern_> twe, is Monty crazy?
21:08:00 <Monty> friends is aquatic and pictorial, apparently.
21:08:07 <twe> bjoern_: Monty: i've asked twe, obviously, and it was intended to be crazy.
21:08:10 <Monty> after all." But mostly thinking of us then!
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21:08:37 <bjoern_> twe, but is Monty /actually/ crazy?
21:08:38 <Monty> three someha >:)
21:08:45 <twe> bjoern_: Monty: 01:07z <supybot> tell monty to be crazy.
21:08:48 <Monty> screwdriver's hotdogs admits responsibility for crazy opinion column >:)
21:09:20 <bjoern_> twe, so Monty beeing crazy is actually in response to supybot's request?
21:09:23 <Monty> French movie, devoid of both going on Macs, and sauerkraut
21:09:27 <bjoern_> isn't that odd, twe?
21:09:32 <twe> bjoern_: And before you can response to be crazy.
21:09:35 <twe> Twe twe twe.
21:09:52 <crschmidt> not as odd as monty is anyway. right twe?
21:09:53 <Monty> objects creates osmium.
21:10:06 <twe> Monty i think twe is more primal. Fuck god means fuck all, it means the red lines just by... Right.
21:10:06 <Monty> screw you
21:10:37 <bjoern_> @karma twe
21:10:38 <supybot> bjoern_: Karma for "twe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
21:10:43 <twe> Twe twe twe.
21:10:53 <twe> Yes, twe is a project is being done on trade, rather than spamming millions of times.
21:11:07 <bjoern_> twe, you sure?
21:11:17 <twe> bjoern_: Like scrabble and various alloys; found in arsenopyrite and orpiment and realgar.
21:11:54 <bjoern_> .img arsenopyrite
21:11:55 <phenny> arsenopyrite: http://simplethinking.com/dunn/images/ch21/fig%2021-05.gif
21:13:14 <Morbus> DrBacchus: you got a second?
21:13:22 <DrBacchus> Yes
21:13:24 <DrBacchus> But it's over now.
21:13:36 <DrBacchus> I might have another, though, if you ask nicely.
21:13:40 <Morbus> you run Postfix, right?
21:13:45 <DrBacchus> Yes.
21:13:53 <Morbus> you wanna "grep END /var/log/mail" for me.
21:13:59 <Morbus> you get any results?
21:14:23 <DrBacchus> Several
21:14:33 <DrBacchus> END-OF-MESSAGE
21:14:40 <DrBacchus> and TRENDSOURCEINC.NET
21:14:42 <Morbus> are they all from hosts you've no idea about?
21:15:02 <DrBacchus> Actually two of them are from hosts I know.
21:15:08 <DrBacchus> the third is from one I don't
21:15:14 <DrBacchus> the END-OF-MESSAGE ones, anway
21:15:14 <Morbus> hrm.
21:15:17 <Morbus> do you run SASL?
21:15:21 <DrBacchus> no
21:15:24 <Morbus> ok.
21:15:26 <Morbus> well, here's the thing.
21:15:34 <Morbus> last week, one of our dialups got infected.
21:15:38 <Morbus> and started sending out spam messages.
21:15:51 <Morbus> that particular machine was dropping these END messages in our logs.
21:16:00 <Morbus> and when we grepped for other ENDs, we got dozens and dozens, every day
21:16:07 <Morbus> the assumption was that they all had the same virus/trojan.
21:16:13 <crschmidt> Nope.
21:16:16 <Morbus> but last night/this morning, we got that message off of a Mac user.
21:16:22 <Morbus> running OS 9. who definitely sent out spam.
21:16:26 <DrBacchus> Well, both of the hosts listed that I know about are *nix machines.
21:16:37 <Morbus> but, googling around, I only see talk about SASL.
21:17:12 <crschmidt> In my case, I've got one that's a spam, but also a bunch that are from my ex-school's mail server.
21:18:00 <DrBacchus> * DrBacchus is very very hungry
21:18:08 <crschmidt> (They pass mail from crschmid@uiuc.edu on to me)
21:18:23 <sbp> what happened to the t?
21:18:42 <crschmidt> They 8 it.
21:18:46 <sbp> .gc McEspagnola
21:18:49 <jsled> Since when is edut a valid tdl?
21:18:51 <phenny> no results found.
21:20:10 <crschmidt> * crschmidt smiles at his own joke that no one gets/cares about
21:20:10 <jsled> OR a valid tld??
21:20:15 <Morbus> has anyone heard of any Word macro viruses making the rounds lately?
21:20:15 <Morbus> that's the only thing i can think of infecting an OS 9 machine.
21:20:15 <Morbus> unless we consider someone putting a pcanywhere-sorta soft on his machine and controlling it remotely with rootish privs.
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21:36:08 <Morbus> whee.
21:36:18 <Morbus> * Morbus has an accountant for the third year in a row.
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21:42:45 <Morbus> hey sal.
21:43:00 <sal> afternoon.
21:43:12 <crschmidt> yo, sal
21:43:35 <sal> hola christopher.
21:47:32 <Morbus> did the first everquest ever get released for os x?
21:47:54 <Morbus> i don't think it did.
21:47:58 <Morbus> i'm just lazy.
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21:51:41 <Monty> yo dmiles_afk!
21:54:34 <sal> how....Monty.
21:54:38 <Monty> 9NEWS.com - don't write an ethernet jack on TV ad "click fraud" though...
21:57:25 <bjoern_> Monty, help
21:57:25 <Monty> Help: I understand the following commands: help save stats time lookup thesaurus foldoc ignore remind tell whatson random countdown google seen box javadoc acronym weather insult translate paper/scissors/stone calc day define/declare/set
21:57:26 <Monty> Help: To ask me for help about a certain command, try "Monty: help <command>"
21:57:43 <bjoern_> Monty, help countdown
21:57:43 <Monty> Help: "Monty: countdown"
21:57:43 <crschmidt> help day
21:57:47 <crschmidt> Monty: help day
21:57:47 <Monty> Help: "Monty: what day is it?"
21:57:54 <crschmidt> Monty: what day is it?
21:57:54 <Monty> It is Tuesday
21:57:57 <bjoern_> Monty: countdown
21:57:57 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 8, 8, 6, 1, 8. Your target is 616. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
21:58:27 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
21:58:29 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 137 milliseconds. I found all 18 solutions in about 542 milliseconds.
21:58:30 <Monty> ibot ((8 + 8 + 1)*6 - 25)*8
21:58:47 <crschmidt> Monty: countdown
21:58:47 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 7, 7, 5, 9, 9. Your target is 236. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
21:58:54 <bjoern_> Monty, isn't that a bit unfair?
21:58:57 <Monty> http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2005/1/28bell.html
21:59:08 <crschmidt> yeah, this game is too hard.
21:59:17 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
21:59:19 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 2 milliseconds. I found all 16 solutions in about 200 milliseconds.
21:59:20 <Monty> ibot 7*7*5 - 9
21:59:36 <bjoern_> @title http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2005/1/28bell.html
21:59:38 <supybot> bjoern_: McSweeney's Internet Tendency: You Can't Be a Little Bit Pregnant.
22:00:03 <bjoern_> Monty, help help
22:00:03 <Monty> Help: "Monty: help [command name]"
22:00:16 <bjoern_> Monty, help random
22:00:17 <Monty> Help: "Monty: random [max int value]"
22:00:25 <bjoern_> Monty, random 666
22:00:25 <Monty> Random number: 654
22:00:29 <bjoern_> Monty, random 666
22:00:29 <Monty> Random number: 135
22:00:31 <bjoern_> Monty, random 666
22:00:31 <Monty> Random number: 321
22:00:39 <bjoern_> Monty, random 0
22:00:44 <bjoern_> Monty, random 1
22:00:44 <Monty> Random number: 0
22:00:50 <bjoern_> Monty, random 1
22:00:51 <Monty> Random number: 0
22:00:52 <bjoern_> Monty, random 1
22:00:52 <Monty> Random number: 0
22:00:53 <bjoern_> Monty, random 1
22:00:54 <Monty> Random number: 0
22:00:54 <bancus> monty, random -1
22:01:02 <bjoern_> that's not very random Monty...
22:01:07 <bancus> monty, random -55
22:01:08 <Monty> what the tie remains horizontal to require alot of hosting for cheap, priceline.com is Russ' commute now?
22:01:13 <bjoern_> Monty, random 0.1
22:01:22 <bjoern_> Monty, help ignore
22:01:23 <Monty> Help: "Monty: ignore"
22:01:36 <bjoern_> And what would you do then, Monty?
22:01:39 <crschmidt> Monty: ignore
22:01:39 <Monty> Craig: There's this morning nap, Alicia is bad for NFL? 3?
22:01:41 <Monty> Current nicks in my ignore set: iBot Moof ntm ducttape arrow FoxBot auth
22:01:51 <crschmidt> Monty: ignore crschmidt
22:01:51 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
22:02:04 <bjoern_> Monty, help set
22:02:04 <Monty> Help: "Monty: set x = 10"
22:02:07 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:02:08 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 4, 5, 3, 2, 5. Your target is 437. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:02:38 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:02:39 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 36 milliseconds. I found all 40 solutions in about 263 milliseconds.
22:02:41 <Monty> ibot (25 + 4)*3*5 + 2
22:02:46 <bancus> that is hard =/
22:02:55 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:02:55 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 5, 8, 2, 1. Your target is 959. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:03:28 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:03:29 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 50 milliseconds. I found all 18 solutions in about 232 milliseconds.
22:03:30 <bancus> monty: 50 * 8 * 2 +
22:03:31 <Monty> ibot (50 + 5 + 5)*8*2 - 1
22:03:32 <bancus> damned
22:03:32 <Monty> Tell me more about that.
22:03:47 <bjoern_> phenny, tell sbp phenny should automatically respond when Monty `Monty, countdown`s. IMO. KPLZTHX.
22:03:48 <Monty> Ahh... yeah.
22:03:49 <phenny> bjoern_: I'll pass that on for you when sbp is around.
22:03:55 <bjoern_> Monty, help calc
22:03:55 <Monty> Help: "Monty: calc 5*(2+1)"
22:04:03 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:04:03 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 2, 8, 3, 4, 7. Your target is 261. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:04:05 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (50 + 5 + 5)*8*2 - 1
22:04:06 <Monty> bjoern_: 959
22:04:18 <Morbus> this sound slike Krypto.
22:04:22 <crschmidt> ibot (50 + 5 + 5)*8*2 - 1
22:04:28 <crschmidt> * crschmidt wonders how to win
22:04:29 <Morbus> I used to be a competitor in that game, back in elementary school
22:04:34 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:04:35 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 11 milliseconds. I found all 125 solutions in about 201 milliseconds.
22:04:36 <Monty> ibot (8 - 3)*50 + 4 + 7
22:04:49 <sbp> just say the answer on its own on a line
22:04:51 <phenny> sbp: 22:03Z <bjoern_> tell sbp phenny should automatically respond when Monty `Monty, countdown`s. IMO. KPLZTHX.
22:04:51 <Monty> Does talking about this bother you ?
22:04:54 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
22:04:54 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 1, 7, 7, 6, 1. Your target is 226. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:04:55 <bjoern_> Monty, (8 - 3)*50 + 4 + 7
22:04:58 <Monty> agile messenger doesnt work him out "Sadhbh" in Ireland.
22:05:02 <bjoern_> (8 - 3)*50 + 4 + 7
22:05:03 <sbp> you guys don't have Countdown over there, I suppose?
22:05:13 <sbp> it's a very famous programme here
22:05:21 <Morbus> 4we have krytpo.
22:05:24 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:05:25 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 14 milliseconds. I found all 104 solutions in about 299 milliseconds.
22:05:27 <Morbus> .google krypto math game
22:05:27 <Monty> ibot (7*6 + 1)*7 - 75
22:05:31 <phenny> krypto math game: http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/uses-math/games/krypto/
22:05:38 <bjoern_> well, if target == 23...
22:05:44 <sbp> it's not just a math show
22:05:53 <sbp> maths and word puzzles
22:05:58 <sbp> of a set variety#
22:06:01 <sbp> s/#//
22:12:48 <fap3> how do you answer monty ?
22:12:55 <Monty> Dublin is, I rest of DAAP protocol requires a combination of winter, charts intimately and sacked Constantinople instead
22:13:20 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:13:21 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 2, 5, 4, 9, 1. Your target is 200. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:13:51 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:13:52 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 1 milliseconds. I found all 194 solutions in about 215 milliseconds.
22:13:54 <Monty> ibot (9 + 1)*5*4
22:14:03 <fap3> damn
22:14:04 <fap3> that was easy
22:14:06 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:14:07 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 4, 10, 10, 7. Your target is 821. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:14:37 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:14:38 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
22:14:45 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:14:46 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 6, 7, 6, 2, 4. Your target is 953. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:15:16 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:15:17 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 64 milliseconds. I found all 12 solutions in about 261 milliseconds.
22:15:19 <Monty> ibot (75*2 + 6 + 4)*6 - 7
22:15:26 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:15:27 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 3, 8, 6, 10, 8. Your target is 919. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:15:57 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:15:58 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 52 milliseconds. I found all 36 solutions in about 204 milliseconds.
22:16:00 <Monty> ibot (100 + 8 + 6)*8 - 3 + 10
22:16:09 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:16:10 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 6, 6, 5, 1, 8. Your target is 640. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:16:27 <fap3> 100*6+8*40
22:16:33 <fap3> ugh
22:16:35 <bancus> heh
22:16:40 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:16:40 <bancus> you have to use the numbers given
22:16:41 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 38 milliseconds. I found all 152 solutions in about 231 milliseconds.
22:16:42 <Monty> ibot (6*6 + 100 - 8)*5
22:16:48 <fap3> right
22:16:50 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:16:50 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 10, 7, 6, 9, 4. Your target is 742. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:16:51 <fap3> i know
22:16:51 <fap3> hehe
22:17:04 <fap3> i'm bad in this!
22:17:18 <bancus> (50 + 10) * (4+ 6)
22:17:20 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:17:21 <bancus> (50 + 10) * (4 + 6)
22:17:22 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 34 milliseconds. I found all 24 solutions in about 195 milliseconds.
22:17:23 <Monty> ibot (10*6 + 50 - 4)*7
22:17:26 <bancus> er
22:17:27 <bancus> shit
22:17:29 <fap3> yiz beed ti
22:17:39 <fap3> what
22:17:45 <fap3> miscutpaste :)
22:17:48 <bancus> I needed another two in the right side
22:17:51 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:17:51 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 2, 1, 9, 5, 7. Your target is 402. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:18:21 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:18:23 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 13 milliseconds. I found all 37 solutions in about 553 milliseconds.
22:18:24 <bancus> shit
22:18:24 <Monty> ibot (75 + 7)*5 + 1 - 9
22:18:27 <bancus> I had that one two
22:18:31 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (50 + 10) * (4 + 6)
22:18:32 <Monty> bjoern_: 600
22:18:32 <bancus> I just didn't have enoguh time to type it
22:18:41 <fap3> i suck.
22:18:46 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:18:47 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 10, 3, 3, 6, 2. Your target is 641. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:18:48 <bancus> monty calc (50 + 10) * (4 + 6 + 2)
22:18:48 <Monty> bancus: 720
22:18:54 <bancus> doh
22:19:17 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:19:18 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 51 milliseconds. I found all 28 solutions in about 218 milliseconds.
22:19:20 <Monty> ibot (75 - 10 + 6)*3*3 + 2
22:19:31 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:19:32 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 8, 9, 2, 1, 10. Your target is 359. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:19:33 <bancus> monty: countdown
22:19:34 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 5, 7, 7, 10. Your target is 921. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:19:37 <bancus> heh
22:20:02 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:20:03 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 89 solutions in about 874 milliseconds.
22:20:05 <Monty> ibot 8*9/2*10 - 1
22:20:06 <fap3> 10*(8/2) ..
22:20:06 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:20:08 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
22:20:08 <fap3> duh
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22:20:20 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:20:21 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 8, 2, 7, 5, 9. Your target is 937. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:20:51 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:20:52 <bancus> I could solve that if I had another 2
22:20:52 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 62 milliseconds. I found all 6 solutions in about 237 milliseconds.
22:20:54 <Monty> ibot (50*2 + 5)*9 - 8
22:20:54 <sbp> (9 * 50 * 2) + (7 * 5) +... AAAAARGH
22:21:04 <crschmidt> it's too damn short
22:21:09 <bancus> it is
22:21:14 <sbp> I think he's taking less than 30 seconds
22:21:19 <fap3> monty does it in miliseconds!!
22:21:21 <Monty> hang on Sunday. Nothing major flop
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22:21:23 <crschmidt> no, he's not
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22:21:30 <crschmidt> 17:21:22 <+Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 8, 2, 7, 5, 9.
22:21:31 <Monty> matter
22:21:33 <crschmidt> 17:21:52 <+Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:21:35 <Monty> groan already was happy birthday
22:21:50 <sbp> hmm, no
22:21:52 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:21:52 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 9, 3, 5, 1, 4. Your target is 737. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:22:17 <crschmidt> 100*(4+3) + 9*5 -1 + 3
22:22:22 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:22:24 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 271 milliseconds. I found all 2 solutions in about 456 milliseconds.
22:22:25 <Monty> ibot (9*4 + 1)*100/5 - 3
22:22:32 <sbp> ten out
22:22:34 <crschmidt> monty, calc 100*(4+3) + 9*5 -1 + 3
22:22:34 <Monty> crschmidt: 747
22:22:37 <crschmidt> bah
22:22:44 <fap3> monty: countdown
22:22:45 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 8, 10, 5, 10, 7. Your target is 938. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:22:49 <crschmidt> close that time, at least.
22:23:15 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:23:16 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 17 milliseconds. I found all 14 solutions in about 206 milliseconds.
22:23:17 <crschmidt> * crschmidt shakes his head.
22:23:18 <Monty> ibot (75 - 8)*10/5*7
22:23:34 <fap3> monty: countdown
22:23:34 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 8, 5, 2, 1, 4. Your target is 643. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:23:59 <crschmidt> 8*4-3 * 25 +... dunno
22:24:05 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:24:06 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 54 milliseconds. I found all 8 solutions in about 224 milliseconds.
22:24:06 <jsled> Well, I found a solution in 53 milliseconds.
22:24:07 <Monty> ibot (25 - 5)*8*4 + 2 + 1
22:24:08 <jsled> But.
22:24:16 <jsled> That's the one!
22:24:23 <fap3> duh
22:24:30 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:24:31 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 10, 7, 8, 2. Your target is 898. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:25:00 <sbp> fuck you Monty
22:25:00 <Monty> screw you
22:25:01 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:25:03 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 12 solutions in about 266 milliseconds.
22:25:04 <Monty> ibot (10 + 8)*50 - 2
22:25:12 <fap3> 18*50
22:25:13 <sbp> argh
22:25:13 <fap3> duuuh
22:25:20 <sbp> so obvious
22:25:22 <fap3> yeah
22:25:34 <sbp> Monty: countdown
22:25:34 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 9, 3, 3, 3. Your target is 601. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:26:04 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:26:06 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 32 milliseconds. I found all 24 solutions in about 229 milliseconds.
22:26:06 <fap3> i need a 8 :P
22:26:07 <Monty> ibot (75 - 9)*3*3 + 7
22:26:12 <fap3> DUH
22:26:23 <fap3> Monty: fuckyou
22:26:23 <Monty> screw you
22:26:26 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:26:27 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 2, 2, 5, 1, 4. Your target is 559. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:26:57 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:26:58 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 55 milliseconds. I found all 24 solutions in about 232 milliseconds.
22:27:00 <Monty> ibot (50 + 2 + 4)*2*5 - 1
22:27:13 <fap3> agh
22:27:16 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:27:17 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 7, 7, 3, 5, 7. Your target is 879. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:27:26 <sal> * sal wanders off.
22:27:47 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:27:49 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 12 milliseconds. I found all 90 solutions in about 207 milliseconds.
22:27:50 <Monty> ibot 25*7*5 - 3 + 7
22:27:56 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:27:57 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 2, 4, 5, 5, 5. Your target is 699. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:28:19 <deltab> Monty does give you less time; in the real game you get to see the numbers as they're being selected, and while the target is being generated
22:28:27 <Monty> Building beagle if guns the SOTU: "you know, I pass by car boots is I'm sympathetic -- as soon as for an rsynced copy a reasonable job offers...
22:28:27 <crschmidt> 75*(5+4)
22:28:28 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:28:30 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 61 milliseconds. I found all 24 solutions in about 222 milliseconds.
22:28:31 <Monty> ibot (75 - 5)*2*5 + 4 - 5
22:28:36 <sbp> true
22:28:37 <fap3> (75-5)*right
22:28:55 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:28:56 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 5, 6, 2, 7, 6. Your target is 481. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:29:02 <deltab> plus you get to choose how many large and small numbers you get
22:29:09 <sbp> stop giving us 75. 75 is suck
22:29:20 <fap3> i'll print out 75*n
22:29:23 <fap3> :P
22:29:25 <sbp> hehe
22:29:26 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:29:27 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 116 solutions in about 206 milliseconds.
22:29:29 <Monty> ibot (75 - 6)*7 - 2
22:29:54 <fap3> from __future__ import division
22:29:57 <fap3> whoops, wrong window
22:30:33 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:30:33 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 7, 2, 6, 3. Your target is 793. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:31:04 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:31:05 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 16 milliseconds. I found all 64 solutions in about 219 milliseconds.
22:31:07 <Monty> ibot (6*3 - 2)*50 - 7
22:31:10 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:31:11 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 4, 9, 7, 10. Your target is 595. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:31:33 <sbp> (7 + 5) * 50 - 5
22:31:34 <sbp> oh wait
22:31:36 <sbp> sigh
22:31:41 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:31:42 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 1 milliseconds. I found all 127 solutions in about 196 milliseconds.
22:31:44 <Monty> ibot (9*10 - 5)*7
22:31:55 <sbp> I was one away, Carol!
22:31:55 <crschmidt> wait, sbp, why doesn't that work?
22:31:59 <crschmidt> oh, only one five
22:32:01 <sbp> five used twice
22:32:02 <fap3> right.. if i had known 85*7 = 595
22:32:03 <crschmidt> you had to use 9-5
22:32:04 <crschmidt> er
22:32:06 <crschmidt> 9-4
22:32:07 <fap3> it would have worked :P
22:32:10 <sbp> hehe
22:32:16 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:32:16 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 5, 9, 5, 10, 9. Your target is 903. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:32:46 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:32:48 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
22:32:52 <fap3> me neither
22:32:53 <sbp> ha
22:32:53 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:32:54 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 6, 3, 8, 4, 5. Your target is 654. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:33:14 <crschmidt> that one doesn't look so difficult
22:33:17 <sbp> sigh
22:33:24 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:33:25 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 16 milliseconds. I found all 103 solutions in about 209 milliseconds.
22:33:27 <Monty> ibot (100 + 4 + 5)*6
22:33:27 <crschmidt> 6*100+3*8+8*5
22:33:30 <crschmidt> oh
22:33:33 <fap3> oh
22:33:34 <crschmidt> monty is smarter than me
22:33:36 <Monty> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox
22:33:39 <crschmidt> oops, used 8 twice
22:33:40 <sbp> heh
22:33:41 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:33:42 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 5, 3, 1, 1, 7. Your target is 566. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:34:12 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:34:13 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 20 milliseconds. I found all 12 solutions in about 234 milliseconds.
22:34:15 <Monty> ibot (75 + 5 + 1)*7 - 1
22:34:22 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:34:23 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 4, 3, 4, 2, 7. Your target is 781. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:34:53 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:34:54 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 47 milliseconds. I found all 28 solutions in about 206 milliseconds.
22:34:56 <Monty> ibot (25*4*2 - 3)*4 - 7
22:35:03 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:35:04 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 7, 1, 7, 9, 2. Your target is 435. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:35:34 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:35:35 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 74 milliseconds. I found all 20 solutions in about 242 milliseconds.
22:35:37 <Monty> ibot ((100 - 1)*9 - 7)/2 - 7
22:35:38 <fap3> (100*9)/2...
22:35:39 <fap3> gah
22:35:59 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:36:00 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5. Your target is 347. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:36:21 <kandinski> this one was dirt easy
22:36:21 <sbp> ((5 + 2) * 50) - 1 - 2
22:36:29 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:36:31 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 17 milliseconds. I found all 192 solutions in about 269 milliseconds.
22:36:33 <Monty> ibot (2 + 5)*50 - 1 - 2
22:36:38 <sbp> ...
22:36:39 <kandinski> oh, yu did print it in time
22:36:51 <sbp> Monty: calc ((5 + 2) * 50) - 1 - 2
22:36:51 <Monty> sbp: 347
22:36:56 <sbp> WHAT GIVES YOU BASTARD
22:37:01 <fap3> you need to say ibot!
22:37:03 <fap3> :P
22:37:10 <sbp> you're KIDDING me!
22:37:14 <deltab> WHAT
22:37:23 <fap3> heh
22:37:26 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:37:27 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 3, 4, 7, 10, 3. Your target is 617. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:37:44 <sbp> ibot (100 * (3 + 3)) + 10 + 7
22:37:50 <sbp> Monty: (100 * (3 + 3)) + 10 + 7
22:37:51 <Monty> *grumble, grumble, grumble*
22:37:57 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:37:57 <kandinski> heh
22:37:59 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 21 milliseconds. I found all 4 solutions in about 211 milliseconds.
22:38:00 <Monty> ibot (3 + 3)*100 + 7 + 10
22:38:10 <fap3> sbp: loser :P
22:38:14 <sbp> sounds of me stabbing Monty
22:38:15 <Monty> sbp: loser :P
22:38:17 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:38:17 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 6, 5, 7, 7, 8. Your target is 255. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:38:18 <sbp> RIGHT
22:38:40 <fap3> laughing too hard to solve it :)
22:38:47 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:38:49 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 5 milliseconds. I found all 26 solutions in about 192 milliseconds.
22:38:50 <Monty> ibot (7*7 - 6 + 8)*5
22:38:54 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:38:54 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 5, 8, 7, 5, 3. Your target is 803. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:39:00 <fap3> 100*8+3
22:39:02 <fap3> ibot 100*8+3
22:39:09 <fap3> monty: 100*8+3
22:39:12 <Monty> stale humping machine masturbates Donkey Kong's soccer.
22:39:14 <sbp> phenny: ask Jibbler how we get Monty to recognize our countdown answers, and please deprive him of botsnacks for a week or something
22:39:15 <Monty> Right...
22:39:15 <fap3> monty: countdown 100*8+3
22:39:17 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on for you when jibbler is around.
22:39:17 <Monty> can someone kick mybot?
22:39:21 <sbp> 100*8+3
22:39:24 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:39:26 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 8 milliseconds. I found all 158 solutions in about 198 milliseconds.
22:39:27 <Monty> ibot 100*8 + 3
22:39:45 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:39:45 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 9, 5, 10, 3, 3. Your target is 400. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:40:15 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:40:16 <fap3> (100*9)/2-10*5
22:40:17 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 467 solutions in about 271 milliseconds.
22:40:17 <fap3> ..
22:40:17 <deltab> 100 * 5 -(10 - 9)
22:40:18 <Monty> ibot (10 - 3 - 3)*100
22:40:35 <fap3> no 2 duh
22:40:38 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:40:39 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 1, 3, 9, 4, 1. Your target is 223. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:40:58 <fap3> 3*75-1-1
22:41:09 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:41:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 13 milliseconds. I found all 256 solutions in about 239 milliseconds.
22:41:12 <Monty> ibot (75 - 4)*3 + 9 + 1
22:41:15 <sbp> Monty you flipping orientational poundicule
22:41:19 <sbp> .gc poundicule
22:41:19 <Monty> dental VNC stalectites cuddles six TurboLinux and priceless trendy springs ;)
22:41:22 <sbp> Monty: countdown
22:41:22 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 9, 4, 8, 2, 3. Your target is 620. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:41:24 <phenny> no results found.
22:41:33 <sbp> I reckon you might have to do "Monty: calc ..."
22:41:34 <Monty> Perhaps in your fantasies we reckon each other.
22:41:39 <sbp> yeah yeah
22:41:52 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:41:53 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 12 milliseconds. I found all 21 solutions in about 201 milliseconds.
22:41:55 <Monty> ibot (25*3 + 2)*8 + 4
22:41:59 <fap3> 9*25-2
22:41:59 <fap3> agh
22:42:04 <sbp> Monty: countdown
22:42:04 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 4, 10, 3, 3, 3. Your target is 182. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:42:11 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 9*25-2
22:42:11 <Monty> bjoern_: 223
22:42:27 <fap3> (25-2)
22:42:31 <fap3> i meant to.. whatever
22:42:34 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:42:36 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 149 milliseconds. I found all 42 solutions in about 260 milliseconds.
22:42:37 <Monty> ibot (10*3*3 + 4)*3 - 100
22:42:42 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:42:42 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 8, 9, 7, 7, 6. Your target is 569. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:42:58 <sbp> Monty: calc (50 * 8) * (7 + 6)
22:42:58 <Monty> sbp: 5200
22:43:09 <sbp> Monty: calc (50 * 8) * 6 - (7 * 8)
22:43:09 <Monty> sbp: 2344
22:43:12 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:43:14 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 29 milliseconds. I found all 114 solutions in about 203 milliseconds.
22:43:14 <sbp> Monty: calc (50 * 8) - (7 * 8)
22:43:15 <Monty> ibot (50 + 8 + 6)*9 - 7
22:43:16 <deltab> haha
22:43:17 <Monty> sbp: 344
22:43:22 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:43:22 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 2, 7, 7, 1, 1. Your target is 733. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:43:53 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:43:54 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
22:43:57 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:43:57 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 9, 6, 8, 4, 7. Your target is 402. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:44:21 <bjoern_> *** bjoern_ has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
22:44:27 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:44:29 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 1 milliseconds. I found all 100 solutions in about 196 milliseconds.
22:44:30 <Monty> ibot (9*7 + 4)*6
22:44:34 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:44:34 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 8, 1, 1, 10, 2. Your target is 404. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:44:48 <sbp> Monty: calc (50 * 8) + 2 + 1 + 1
22:44:49 <Monty> sbp: 404
22:44:49 <fap3> 8*50+1+1+2
22:44:53 <fap3> monty: calc 8*50+1+1+2
22:44:53 <Monty> fap3: 404
22:44:56 <sbp> Monty: countdown (50 * 8) + 2 + 1 + 1
22:44:59 <Monty> anal criticism piddles C-Howells's sandwich!
22:45:02 <sbp> Monty: answer (50 * 8) + 2 + 1 + 1
22:45:03 <Monty> (100*9)/2-10*5
22:45:04 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:45:06 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 121 milliseconds. I found all 84 solutions in about 520 milliseconds.
22:45:08 <Monty> ibot (50 - 1)*8 + 10 + 2
22:45:15 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:45:16 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 9, 9, 9, 9, 3. Your target is 207. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:45:46 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:45:47 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 2 milliseconds. I found all 1548 solutions in about 319 milliseconds.
22:45:49 <Monty> ibot (9*9 - 9)*3 - 9
22:46:01 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:46:02 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 7, 2, 7, 10, 10. Your target is 713. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:46:07 <sbp> if I only knew my 9 * 9 - 9 times table...
22:46:31 <fap3> (50-7)*7*2
22:46:31 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:46:33 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 120 solutions in about 222 milliseconds.
22:46:35 <Monty> ibot (7*10 + 2)*10 - 7
22:46:35 <fap3> monty: calc (50-7)*7*2
22:46:36 <Monty> fap3: 602
22:46:40 <fap3> monty: calc (50-7)*7*2+10
22:46:41 <Monty> fap3: 612
22:46:44 <fap3> fcuk
22:46:51 <sbp> Monty: countdown
22:46:51 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 8, 7, 5, 5, 4. Your target is 121. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:47:09 <sbp> Monty: calc (100 * 8) - (7 * 5 * 5 * 4)
22:47:09 <Monty> sbp: 100
22:47:16 <fap3> monty: calc 400/5
22:47:16 <Monty> fap3: 80
22:47:21 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:47:22 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 962 solutions in about 218 milliseconds.
22:47:24 <Monty> ibot 5*5 + 100 - 4
22:47:24 <sbp> I was closest
22:47:34 <fap3> win or don't win :P
22:47:38 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:47:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 2, 7, 1, 10, 2. Your target is 681. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:47:40 <sbp> bah
22:48:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:48:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 175 milliseconds. I found all 36 solutions in about 461 milliseconds.
22:48:11 <Monty> ibot (25 + 2 + 7)*10*2 + 1
22:48:23 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:48:23 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 1, 2, 8, 10, 2. Your target is 861. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:48:36 <deltab> in the real game you get reduced points if you're close (closer than your opponent)
22:48:53 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:48:55 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 70 milliseconds. I found all 2 solutions in about 246 milliseconds.
22:48:56 <Monty> ibot ((50 - 8)*2 + 2)*10 + 1
22:48:57 <sbp> yeah. but this clearly isn't the real game for two reasons
22:49:03 <sbp> 1) Monty won't take any answers
22:49:03 <Monty> GRRR!
22:49:10 <deltab> haha
22:49:11 <sbp> 2) Monty doesn't look like Carol Vorderman
22:49:13 <Monty> can someone kick code!
22:49:16 <fap3> hehe
22:49:19 <sbp> kicking your code
22:49:26 <fap3> monty: countdown
22:49:27 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 3, 7, 6, 8, 4. Your target is 605. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:49:57 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:49:59 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 46 milliseconds. I found all 46 solutions in about 225 milliseconds.
22:50:00 <Monty> ibot 50*3*4 + 7 + 6 - 8
22:50:06 <fap3> monty: countdown
22:50:06 <deltab> and there's no letters game, conundrum, amusing anecdotes, etc.
22:50:07 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 8, 4, 5, 2, 8. Your target is 774. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:50:12 <sbp> aye
22:50:26 <fap3> i don't know wtf you are talking about
22:50:33 <fap3> i don't know wtf you are talking about
22:50:37 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:50:38 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 47 milliseconds. I found all 22 solutions in about 241 milliseconds.
22:50:38 <fap3> anyway
22:50:39 <Monty> ibot (25*8 - 5)*4 + 2 - 8
22:50:41 <sbp> we heard you the first time
22:50:42 <deltab> a tv shows, of which this is but a pale imitation of one game
22:50:52 <fap3> and i can't use my keyboard correctly
22:50:55 <sbp> http://www.thecountdownpage.com/
22:51:00 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:51:00 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 7, 9, 1, 1, 7. Your target is 423. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:51:03 <Morbus> *** Morbus has quit (Remote closed the connection)
22:51:07 <sbp> heh, it was originally French. didn't know that
22:51:21 <bancus> leave it to those wacky frenchmen
22:51:30 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:51:32 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 100 solutions in about 227 milliseconds.
22:51:33 <Monty> ibot (7*7 - 1 - 1)*9
22:51:48 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:51:48 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 6, 4, 8, 2, 7. Your target is 246. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:52:11 <sbp> 25 * (8 + 2) - 4
22:52:18 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:52:20 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 2 milliseconds. I found all 128 solutions in about 473 milliseconds.
22:52:20 <fap3> monty: calc 25 * (8 + 2) - 4
22:52:21 <Monty> ibot (6*4 + 7)*8 - 2
22:52:21 <sbp> but will Monty accept it? no
22:52:23 <Monty> fap3: 246
22:52:24 <Monty> :-))
22:52:32 <fap3> he is happy
22:52:35 <fap3> you should be happy too
22:52:37 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:52:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 9, 6, 8, 10, 5. Your target is 425. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:52:42 <bancus> monty: help countdown
22:52:43 <Monty> Help: "Monty: countdown"
22:52:48 <bancus> ...
22:52:56 <bancus> * bancus thwaps monty
22:52:56 <Monty> nice work, Jake ;)
22:52:59 <sbp> wow, he replied in anagram
22:53:05 <bancus> thanks, but my name isn't jake
22:53:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:53:09 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 50 solutions in about 195 milliseconds.
22:53:11 <Monty> ibot (75 + 10)*5
22:53:19 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:53:20 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 3, 5, 9, 2, 2. Your target is 719. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:53:50 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:53:51 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
22:53:54 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:53:55 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 9, 6, 1, 9, 8. Your target is 909. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:54:24 <themaximus_> *** themaximus_ is now known as themaximus
22:54:25 <L> 75 6 9
22:54:25 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:54:27 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 308 solutions in about 210 milliseconds.
22:54:28 <Monty> ibot ((9 + 8)*6 - 1)*9
22:54:31 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:54:32 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 6, 10, 8, 4, 3. Your target is 323. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:55:02 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:55:03 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 0 milliseconds. I found all 79 solutions in about 218 milliseconds.
22:55:05 <Monty> ibot 10*8*4 + 3
22:55:11 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:55:11 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 5, 8, 1, 2, 2. Your target is 697. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:55:41 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:55:43 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 23 milliseconds. I found all 28 solutions in about 369 milliseconds.
22:55:44 <bancus> (100 * (8 - 1)) - ...
22:55:44 <Monty> ibot (5 + 2)*100 - 1 - 2
22:55:45 <bancus> fuck you
22:55:50 <bancus> I was almost there
22:55:53 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:55:54 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 8, 1, 6, 8. Your target is 858. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:56:24 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:56:25 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 122 milliseconds. I found all 18 solutions in about 214 milliseconds.
22:56:27 <Monty> ibot (8 + 6)*7*8 + 75 - 1
22:56:33 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:56:33 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 4, 1, 7, 6, 6. Your target is 504. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:57:04 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:57:05 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 28 milliseconds. I found all 156 solutions in about 266 milliseconds.
22:57:06 <fap3> 100*(6+6-7)+4
22:57:06 <Monty> ibot (6 - 7 + 6)*100 + 4
22:57:09 <fap3> monty: calc 100*(6+6-7)+4
22:57:10 <Monty> fap3: 504
22:57:13 <fap3> right
22:57:43 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:57:44 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 2, 1, 5, 2, 6. Your target is 101. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
22:58:12 <fap3> 75+6+(2*5*2)
22:58:14 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
22:58:15 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 12 milliseconds. I found all 566 solutions in about 240 milliseconds.
22:58:16 <fap3> monty: calc 75+6+(2*5*2)
22:58:17 <Monty> ibot (75/5 + 2)*6 - 1
22:58:19 <Monty> fap3: 101
22:58:28 <fap3> i'm getting better! :)
22:58:38 <L> Indeed.
22:58:39 <bancus> I usually just get it figured out as he's declaring time up
22:58:42 <bancus> but no time to write it out
22:59:15 <fap3> soon i'll be able to compete with the 1*1 of preschoolers :P
22:59:38 <fap3> Monty: countdown
22:59:39 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 5, 4, 7, 8, 8. Your target is 379. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:00:09 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:00:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 34 solutions in about 215 milliseconds.
23:00:12 <Monty> ibot (7 + 8)*25 + 4
23:00:18 <fap3> 25*7*8
23:00:22 <fap3> 25*78
23:00:27 <fap3> monty: calc 25*(7+8)
23:00:28 <Monty> fap3: 375
23:00:29 <fap3> monty: calc 25*(7+8) + 4
23:00:30 <Monty> fap3: 379
23:00:34 <fap3> right..
23:00:35 <fap3> damn
23:00:37 <fap3> he is too fast.
23:00:58 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:00:59 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 6, 9, 3, 6, 7. Your target is 195. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:01:21 <fap3> monty: calc 50*(7-3)
23:01:22 <Monty> fap3: 200
23:01:29 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:01:30 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 0 milliseconds. I found all 132 solutions in about 223 milliseconds.
23:01:32 <Monty> ibot 9*3*7 + 6
23:01:38 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:01:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 4, 6, 3, 3, 5. Your target is 415. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:02:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:02:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 28 milliseconds. I found all 136 solutions in about 212 milliseconds.
23:02:11 <Monty> ibot (4*6/3 + 75)*5
23:02:16 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:02:16 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 6, 1, 2, 1, 2. Your target is 389. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:02:46 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:02:48 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 22 milliseconds. I found all 120 solutions in about 253 milliseconds.
23:02:49 <Monty> ibot (100*2 - 6)*2 + 1
23:03:05 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:03:05 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 6, 7, 5, 8, 9. Your target is 979. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:03:35 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:03:37 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 97 milliseconds. I found all 6 solutions in about 310 milliseconds.
23:03:38 <Monty> ibot (25*8 - 6)*5 + 9
23:03:41 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:03:41 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 10, 2, 4, 3, 5. Your target is 883. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:04:12 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:04:13 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 10 milliseconds. I found all 46 solutions in about 210 milliseconds.
23:04:14 <Monty> ibot (75*4 - 5)*3 - 2
23:04:22 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:04:23 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 5, 4, 8, 3, 8. Your target is 930. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:04:53 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:04:54 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 69 milliseconds. I found all 2 solutions in about 209 milliseconds.
23:04:56 <Monty> ibot ((100 - 3)*8/4 - 8)*5
23:05:05 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:05:05 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 5, 2, 7, 5. Your target is 783. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:05:35 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:05:37 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 54 milliseconds. I found all 28 solutions in about 351 milliseconds.
23:05:38 <Monty> ibot (75*5 + 7 + 7)*2 + 5
23:05:45 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:05:46 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 3, 9, 8, 10. Your target is 808. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:06:16 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:06:17 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 14 milliseconds. I found all 20 solutions in about 210 milliseconds.
23:06:19 <Monty> ibot (9 - 3 + 10)*50 + 8
23:06:21 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:06:22 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 10, 6, 1, 6, 5. Your target is 357. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:06:42 <fap3> 6*6*10
23:06:43 <fap3> duh
23:06:52 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:06:53 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 29 milliseconds. I found all 48 solutions in about 225 milliseconds.
23:06:55 <Monty> ibot (100*6 - 5)*6/10
23:06:58 <fap3> duh
23:07:00 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:07:01 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 6, 5, 3, 2. Your target is 960. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:07:30 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:07:32 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 50 milliseconds. I found all 88 solutions in about 231 milliseconds.
23:07:33 <Monty> ibot ((50 + 5)*3 - 5)*6
23:07:49 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:07:50 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 8, 5, 10, 9, 9. Your target is 813. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:08:20 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:08:22 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 14 milliseconds. I found all 142 solutions in about 255 milliseconds.
23:08:23 <Monty> ibot 10*9*9 + 8 - 5
23:08:48 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:08:48 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 5, 10, 7, 5, 6. Your target is 251. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:09:01 <crschmidt> 5*5*10+7-6
23:09:05 <crschmidt> monty, calc5*5*10+7-6
23:09:05 <Monty> F U N
23:09:08 <crschmidt> monty, calc 5*5*10+7-6
23:09:08 <Monty> crschmidt: 251
23:09:11 <fap3> congrats
23:09:14 <crschmidt> ibot 5*5*10+7-6
23:09:18 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:09:19 <crschmidt> countdown 5*5*10+7-6
23:09:20 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 122 solutions in about 352 milliseconds.
23:09:21 <Monty> ibot 5*10*5 + 7 - 6
23:09:24 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:09:24 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 3, 5, 10, 9, 10. Your target is 535. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:09:54 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:09:56 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 236 solutions in about 205 milliseconds.
23:09:56 <crschmidt> 75*5-10-5
23:09:57 <Monty> ibot ((3 + 10)*9 - 10)*5
23:10:12 <fap3> i had one..
23:10:16 <fap3> i forgot it..
23:10:29 <crschmidt> * crschmidt isn't sure what he was thinking
23:10:35 <crschmidt> monty, calc 75*8
23:10:35 <Monty> crschmidt: 600
23:10:40 <fap3> 75*9-(3*5*10)+10
23:10:44 <fap3> monty: calc i forgot it..
23:10:50 <fap3> monty: calc 75*9-(3*5*10)+10
23:10:51 <Monty> fap3: 535
23:11:13 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:11:13 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 2, 7, 8, 3, 6. Your target is 578. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:11:43 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:11:45 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 63 milliseconds. I found all 53 solutions in about 491 milliseconds.
23:11:45 <crschmidt> 25*8*3-6*7
23:11:46 <Monty> ibot (25*3 - 2)*8 - 6
23:11:56 <crschmidt> * crschmidt wasn't even close
23:13:17 <fap3> Monty: calc 25*(6+8+7+2)-3
23:13:18 <Monty> fap3: 572
23:13:20 <fap3> Monty: calc 25*(6+8+7+2)+3
23:13:20 <Monty> fap3: 578
23:13:37 <fap3> Monty: countdown
23:13:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 6, 5, 5, 8, 1. Your target is 277. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:14:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:14:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 23 milliseconds. I found all 320 solutions in about 274 milliseconds.
23:14:11 <Monty> ibot (50 + 6 + 1)*5 - 8
23:15:26 <BigJibby> Monty's fast
23:15:27 <Monty> see?
23:16:16 <fap3> it always hurts most to be beat by a computer :P
23:16:23 <fap3> same thing with go..
23:16:29 <deltab> BigJibby: one solution was found in 0 ms
23:16:35 <deltab> now that's just showing off
23:16:58 <fap3> deltab: i had precognized one in -2ms
23:17:13 <BigJibby> what was it, 1,1,1,1 your target is 4? :)
23:17:58 <fap3> nah, precognition works the same as the lottery
23:18:54 <deltab> there's a big hype then you're disappointed?
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23:30:46 <Talliesin> .g fuckwit
23:30:54 <phenny> fuckwit: http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page1376.asp
23:33:05 <jsled> .g fucktard
23:33:08 <phenny> fucktard: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fucktard
23:33:20 <jsled> .g fucktwat
23:33:22 <phenny> fucktwat: http://www.neighborhoodpub.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t8255.html
23:34:27 <Talliesin> The fuckwit result's funnier if you actually go to http://www.google.com/search?q=fuckwit
23:35:05 <jsled> @title http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page1376.asp
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23:35:07 <supybot> jsled: John Prescott
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23:39:46 <sbp> yay, he was googlebombed
23:42:04 <d8uv> Hm?
23:42:12 <sbp> yay
23:42:15 <sbp> he was googlebombed
23:42:18 <sbp> John Prescott
23:42:20 <sbp> on Google
23:42:23 <sbp> for fuckwit
23:42:31 <sbp> and hi!
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23:53:40 <Talliesin> :(
23:53:51 <Talliesin> It's not as amusing when it's been rigged
23:54:06 <valmont_> eh, anybody familiar with xmlhttprequest here?
23:54:17 <Talliesin> It has fallen below the threshold of brightening-talliesins-dull-day
23:54:23 <Talliesin> valmont_, a bit
23:54:50 <Talliesin> Though, it's all so trendy these days. Makes me wonder if there's something new to it :)
23:54:57 <valmont_> Talliesin: cool. i put together an informal RFC to advocate a spinoff from it
23:55:15 <valmont_> Talliesin: nah, IE5.0 had that back in 1999
23:55:26 <valmont_> it was nice and fun to play with
23:55:47 <valmont_> the moz dudes worked it in there 'round 2002
23:56:04 <Talliesin> valmont_, yeah I know. There was some press given to google's use of it lately, that's why the recent upsurge in interest. I was just playing dumb.
23:56:04 <valmont_> safari introduced support for it in 2004
23:56:36 <valmont_> Talliesin: oh haha okee :) yah many sites have been using it, ask.com, a9.com bleh bleh, flickr.com bleeeeeh
23:56:49 <valmont_> Talliesin: http://chrisholland.blogspot.com/2005/03/contextagnosticxmlhttprequest-informal.html
23:57:09 <Talliesin> I shall give that a look later. I must go for a bit now.
23:57:17 <valmont_> cool :)
