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00:06:45 <BigJibby> Isis, hello
00:06:46 <Isis> BigJibby: is my bot deltab
00:07:11 <deltab> no, you don't have a bot, Isis
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00:14:29 <deltab> http://homepage.eircom.net/~wastedyouth/gnu.jpg
00:14:30 <Anical> [ jpeg (260 x 490) ]
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00:28:55 <AaronSw> we're so modest
00:29:09 <AaronSw> Roosevelt Institution director, as quoted in the New York Times:
00:29:10 <AaronSw> "People ask me, 'How can you say that you're going to be as brilliant as the Hoover Institution when Hoover has five Nobel laureates?' " he said. "Well, we have at least that many Nobel laureates in our group; they just haven't been awarded the prize yet."
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00:49:23 <DrBacchus> Where is Teh Morbus?!
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00:51:35 <Morbus> DrBacchus: I'm right here.
00:51:44 <DrBacchus> Wow.
00:51:54 <DrBacchus> * DrBacchus summons Morbus from the depts.
00:51:58 <Morbus> :)
00:51:58 <DrBacchus> depths, too.
00:52:09 <DrBacchus> So, this bot has this annoying characteristic.
00:52:11 <Morbus> NP: 'Sarabande (Barry Lyndon)' from Various Artists's album 'Dr. Strangelove: Music From The Films Of Stanley Kubrick'; Rating: 4/5; http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IWMP/disobeycom/
00:52:11 <DrBacchus> "wooga"
00:52:12 <Anical> [ Amazon.com: Music: Dr. Strangelove: Music From The Films Of Stanley Kubrick (Film Score Anthology) [SOUNDTRACK] ]
00:52:22 <Morbus> what's that?
00:52:30 <DrBacchus> When you say something in "" it returns it.
00:52:32 <DrBacchus> What's that about?
00:52:40 <DrBacchus> What plugin is doing that, so that I can burninate it?
00:52:40 <Morbus> Anical: "wooga"
00:52:46 <DrBacchus> Grah!
00:53:27 <Morbus> actually, I think we discovered this once before.
00:53:30 <Morbus> in swhack, even.
00:53:40 <Morbus> do you have the math module enabled?
00:54:00 <Morbus> yeah, remove the math module.
00:54:10 <Morbus> the underlying module it relies on things that you're giving it an expression.
00:54:15 <Morbus> it also works on regular numbers.
00:55:15 <Morbus> hey dtm.
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00:57:35 <deltab> this Amazon.co.jp page has an advert for "Mr. Ink Ready Bull"
00:59:07 <DrBacchus> * DrBacchus is on too darned many channels
00:59:11 <DrBacchus> Morbus: ok, one other.
00:59:19 <DrBacchus> I found out why I had that "is/and" regex.
00:59:35 <DrBacchus> For some reason, when I said "foo is bar" it would say "no clue. sorry"
00:59:39 <DrBacchus> Without that regex.
00:59:51 <Morbus> yeah?
00:59:52 <DrBacchus> So some combination of passive learning and ... something ... makes it ... not ... right.
00:59:53 <Morbus> weird.
00:59:55 <Morbus> Anical: foo is bar
00:59:55 <Anical> Morbus: okay.
01:00:00 <Morbus> foo is bar
01:00:03 <DrBacchus> So I don't now.
01:00:04 <Morbus> foo?
01:00:04 <Anical> foo is bar
01:00:05 <DrBacchus> nw
01:00:06 <DrBacchus> know
01:00:07 <Morbus> bar is foo
01:00:09 <Morbus> bar?
01:00:10 <Anical> bar is foo
01:00:16 <Morbus> i dunno.
01:00:24 <DrBacchus> Somehow I've broken what I ahve.
01:00:36 <DrBacchus> So I'll attempt to revert whatever it was that I borked.
01:00:55 <Morbus> did you get svn on the box?
01:01:17 <DrBacchus> Yeah.
01:01:25 <DrBacchus> And I diffed, and the diffs I have seem to be desirable.
01:01:34 <DrBacchus> I can't get it to learn <rss=""> stuff right now
01:01:37 <Morbus> ah. cool. so you running off the svn now?
01:01:57 <DrBacchus> Anical: be roy is <reply><rss="http://drbacchus.com/cgi-bin/be?roy">
01:02:00 <DrBacchus> Anical: be roy
01:02:04 <Anical> DrBacchus: [ Something is wrong ... um ... when i click this link ... its not right ]
01:02:11 <DrBacchus> Anical: be roy
01:02:23 <DrBacchus> ok, so I've broken something or other.
01:02:30 <Morbus> do you have XML::Feed installed?
01:02:43 <DrBacchus> Yes
01:02:43 <Morbus> i think that's the req.
01:02:55 <DrBacchus> When I tell it what I just told Anical, it returns the feed entry.
01:02:59 <DrBacchus> But doesn't learn the factoid.
01:03:01 <Morbus> aaah.
01:03:02 <DrBacchus> Anical: be roy
01:03:05 <Morbus> yeah, you broke something.
01:03:08 <Morbus> :)
01:03:08 <DrBacchus> Anical: Hey, you!
01:03:15 <Morbus> I'm leeching.
01:03:18 <Morbus> network access slow.
01:03:20 <DrBacchus> Accursed bot.
01:04:29 <Morbus> * Morbus wanders off, summoning spell weakening.
01:04:35 <Morbus> actually, I /could/ do some work on infobot now.
01:04:38 <Morbus> i'm just reading
01:04:44 <Morbus> * Morbus hugs GURPS 4th Edition.
01:04:47 <DrBacchus> Anical: foo
01:04:50 <DrBacchus> Anical: foo.
01:04:54 <DrBacchus> Are those the same thing?
01:05:04 <Morbus> to which module?
01:05:08 <DrBacchus> Infobot
01:05:13 <crschmidt> '
01:05:20 <crschmidt> sorry, kitty
01:05:21 <Morbus> I'm not running the "respond to unquestioned things" change.
01:05:33 <DrBacchus> Oh
01:05:37 <DrBacchus> WELL YOU SHOULD.
01:05:42 <DrBacchus> BECAUSE BOTS ARE PEOPLE TOO
01:05:50 <Morbus> heh. i'm running just the svn now, no changes.
01:06:11 <DrBacchus> I also have a patch where if you address someone else, the bot still ansers.
01:06:28 <DrBacchus> And I have a wider selection of "no clue" answers.
01:06:35 <DrBacchus> Because getting the same one all the time PISSED ME OFF
01:07:11 <Morbus> i added a boatload of new options to some of the modules in svn.
01:07:11 <Morbus> google and karma come to mind.
01:07:12 <Anical> About Karma: http://www.serve.com/cmtan/buddhism/karma.html
01:07:12 <Anical> ..Reincarnation & Karma, Rebirth & Past Life: http://www.angelfire.com/or2/spiritspeaks/reincarnation.html
01:07:12 <Anical> ..A letter on Karma: http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/karma.htm
01:07:23 <Morbus> hey, you're NOT running the svn.
01:07:31 <Morbus> cos fajita just bug'd on something i fixed :)
01:07:36 <Morbus> unless i fixed it wrong.
01:07:57 <Morbus> DrBacchus: yeah, i was planning on making the unknown responses an admin configurable thing from within irc.
01:08:01 <Morbus> | separated or some such.
01:13:01 <DrBacchus> Geez, and the Status module is a train wreck.
01:13:12 <DrBacchus> It loads the entire blessed data set and loops through it!
01:13:20 <DrBacchus> What moron thought that was a good idea?
01:13:33 <DrBacchus> "Works great with my test data of 4 records!"
01:14:13 <DrBacchus> ok, I want three things.
01:14:17 <DrBacchus> The =~ syntax
01:14:26 <DrBacchus> the 'no, botname, foo is bar' syntax
01:14:43 <DrBacchus> and the: foo /bar/ syntax for items with multiple entries.
01:14:58 <DrBacchus> That's all I want, and nothing else.
01:15:00 <DrBacchus> And this lamp.
01:15:05 <DrBacchus> Just this lamp, and nothing else.
01:15:07 <DrBacchus> And this pillow.
01:15:14 <DrBacchus> This lamp, and this pillow, and nothing else.
01:15:22 <DrBacchus> And this bowl.
01:15:25 <DrBacchus> But nothing else.
01:16:13 <Morbus> well, you should be able to get the botname from $self->{bot}->{nick}. I think
01:16:21 <Morbus> I'm looking into the "botname++" doesn't work thing now.
01:16:24 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:16:24 <Anical> Anical has karma of 0.
01:16:28 <Morbus> Anical++
01:16:29 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:16:29 <Anical> Anical has karma of 0.
01:16:39 <crschmidt> karma
01:16:40 <Morbus> Anical: Anical++
01:16:43 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:16:43 <Anical> Anical has karma of 1.
01:16:53 <crschmidt> it's the same bug as
01:16:55 <crschmidt> Anical?
01:16:55 <Anical> crschmidt: No clue. Sorry.
01:16:56 <crschmidt> i assume
01:17:09 <Morbus> crschmidt: possible.
01:18:20 <Morbus> karma
01:18:20 <Anical> Morbus has karma of 1.
01:18:27 <Morbus> crschmidt: nameless karma now works ;)
01:18:44 <DrBacchus> Morbus: ok, thanks.
01:18:52 <DrBacchus> Good night, folks. I'm suddenly very tired.
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01:20:48 <Morbus> hrm.
01:20:48 <Anical> $VAR1 = \{
01:20:48 <Anical> .. 'body' => 'hrm.',
01:20:48 <Anical> .. 'who' => 'Morbus',
01:20:48 <Anical> .. 'channel' => '#swhack'
01:20:48 <Anical> .. };
01:20:57 <Morbus> it doesn't look like the same bug as Anical?
01:20:58 <Anical> $VAR1 = \{
01:20:58 <Anical> .. 'body' => 'it doesn\'t look like the same bug as Anical?',
01:20:58 <Anical> .. 'who' => 'Morbus',
01:20:58 <Anical> .. 'channel' => '#swhack'
01:20:58 <Morbus> Anical++
01:21:00 <Anical> .. };
01:21:03 <Anical> Morbus: $VAR1 = \{
01:21:05 <Anical> .. 'body' => '++',
01:21:07 <Anical> .. 'who' => 'Morbus',
01:21:10 <Anical> .. 'address' => 'Anical',
01:21:12 <Anical> .. 'channel' => '#swhack'
01:21:14 <Anical> .. };
01:21:19 <Morbus> oh, weird, here it does.
01:21:22 <Morbus> in priv, it works fine.
01:21:32 <Anical> $VAR1 = \{
01:21:33 <Anical> .. 'body' => 'oh, weird, here it does.',
01:21:36 <Anical> .. 'who' => 'Morbus',
01:21:38 <Anical> .. 'channel' => '#swhack'
01:21:41 <Anical> .. };
01:21:43 <Anical> $VAR1 = \{
01:21:44 <Anical> .. 'body' => 'in priv, it works fine.',
01:21:48 <Anical> .. 'who' => 'Morbus',
01:21:50 <Anical> .. 'channel' => '#swhack'
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01:22:00 <crschmidt> yeah, that gets old fast
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01:22:17 <Morbus> well, at least I confirmed that the botname is getting stripped when first.
01:22:50 <crschmidt> yep
01:23:16 <crschmidt> probably doesn't do it in priv, because it's always being addressed in priv
01:23:22 <Morbus> yeah
01:26:40 <Morbus> hrm.
01:26:47 <Morbus> it looks like 'address' is what I want to be checking against.
01:29:17 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:29:17 <Anical> Anical has karma of 2.
01:29:24 <Morbus> Anical++
01:29:27 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:29:27 <Anical> Anical has karma of 2.
01:30:21 <Morbus> Anical++
01:31:10 <ows> crschmidt: hi fellow! how's it going there?
01:33:46 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:33:46 <Anical> Anical has karma of 2.
01:33:50 <Morbus> Anical++
01:33:51 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:33:52 <Anical> Anical has karma of 3.
01:33:56 <Morbus> Anical++ # testing.
01:34:00 <Morbus> explain Anical
01:34:00 <Anical> positive: testing. (Morbus); negative: no comments; overall: 4.
01:34:07 <Morbus> Morbus++ # monkies.
01:34:10 <Morbus> explain Morbus
01:34:11 <Anical> positive: monkies. (Morbus), allowing selfkarma (Morbus); negative: no comments; overall: 2.
01:34:23 <Morbus> (things that go bump in the night)++
01:34:31 <Morbus> karma things that go bump in the night
01:34:32 <Anical> things that go bump in the night has karma of 1.
01:34:48 <Morbus> Anical-- # you have lots of easily fixable bugs
01:34:51 <Morbus> explain Anical
01:34:51 <Anical> positive: testing. (Morbus); negative: no comments; overall: 4.
01:35:07 <Morbus> hrm.
01:35:27 <Morbus> Anical--
01:35:29 <Morbus> explain Anical
01:35:29 <Anical> positive: testing. (Morbus); negative: no comments; overall: 4.
01:35:33 <Morbus> Anical++
01:35:35 <Morbus> explain Anical
01:35:36 <Anical> positive: testing. (Morbus); negative: no comments; overall: 5.
01:35:40 <Morbus> heh. well, that's selfish
01:36:19 <crschmidt> heh
01:36:24 <crschmidt> Anical-- # you suck!~
01:36:39 <Morbus> Anical--
01:36:48 <Morbus> the f... aaaah.
01:36:51 <Morbus> jesus christ.
01:37:04 <Morbus> it automatically sets an alt_nick of ${name}-
01:37:27 <Morbus> * Morbus grumbles.,
01:38:47 <Morbus> I think.
01:39:38 <Morbus> Aaah...
01:39:41 <Morbus> actually...
01:39:59 <Morbus> "Anical", "Anical,", "Anical:", and "Anical-" get stripped out as "I'm being addressed"
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01:43:52 <Morbus> Anical-- # stupid flipping helper monkies.
01:43:55 <Morbus> karma Anical
01:43:55 <Anical> Anical has karma of 4.
01:44:00 <Morbus> explain Anical
01:44:01 <Anical> positive: testing. (Morbus); negative: stupid flipping helper monkies. (Morbus); overall: 4.
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04:51:37 <jsled> [[[
04:52:01 <jsled> • “Phone lines over 14 feet will, over time, fry your modem.”
04:52:01 <jsled> • “Your phone lines are like a car. Every once in a while, they need service.”
04:52:01 <jsled> • “We cannot send a service technician to your house.”
04:52:01 <jsled> • “I’d be happy to help you today.”
04:52:01 <jsled> • “It is impossible to speak to my supervisor. My supervisor is Verizon.”
04:52:02 <jsled> • “This is the ‘North American’ office.”
04:52:04 <jsled> • “There is not electricity going down your phone line, sir. It’s data. Electricity has nothing to do with it.”
04:52:18 <jsled> ]]] - Lies Verizon DSL Support Has Told Me Today <http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/lies-verizon-dsl-support-has-told-me-today-104900.php>
04:52:24 <Anical> [ Lies Verizon DSL Support Has Told Me Today : Gizmodo ]
04:52:34 <jsled> THANK YOU SHITTYCAL.
05:05:16 <AaronSw> "I just pet the dog that Donald Rumsfeld pets."
05:06:29 <AaronSw> - TAL, #288
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05:57:58 <jeannielap> Joshled!!! Long time, no see, baby!!
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07:13:19 <sbp> "Water Now More Awesome Than Previously Thought" - /.
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07:16:11 <sbp> "heard a good sermon of Mr. Woodcockes at our church; only in his latter prayer for a woman in childbed, he prayed that God would deliver her from the hereditary curse of child-bearing, which seemed a pretty strange expression" - Pepys
07:17:54 <MoiraA> morning
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07:19:29 <libby> heh, great quote
07:19:31 <phenny> libby: 25 May 20:17Z <robin> tell libby that my mobile isn't working here, but I am at the Novotel Amsterdam room 312 and will try to find her at the conference tomorrow (knowing I can't enter before friday)
07:20:11 <libby> ah wondering where robin had got to
07:20:14 <libby> thanks phenny
07:20:17 <phenny> No problem.
07:21:16 <libby> phenny, tell robin that he can probably sneak in (though they're strict about lunch)
07:21:18 <phenny> libby: I'll pass that on for you when robin is around.
07:21:30 <libby> cheers phenny
07:21:32 <phenny> Don't mention it.
07:22:52 <sbp> :-)
07:22:56 <sbp> hey Moira, libby
07:23:12 <MoiraA> don't tell me sbp .... you haven't been to bed?
07:23:24 <MoiraA> do you and your PC ever sleep?
07:23:42 <jeannielap> No.
07:23:51 <MoiraA> * MoiraA can believe that
07:23:54 <jeannielap> He's a Studly British Programmer.
07:24:02 <jeannielap> He's beyond sleep.
07:24:03 <libby> morning sbp :)
07:24:05 <MoiraA> sbp is always here, always on hand
07:24:22 <sbp> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050525/ap_on_sc/blackbeard_s_ship
07:24:23 <Anical> [ Experts Hope to Show Ship Was Blackbeard's - Yahoo! News ]
07:24:34 <sbp> uses cannon as plural once and cannons the second time
07:24:46 <sbp> the first with an expert speaking, the second with the reporter
07:24:49 <sbp> yo jeannie
07:24:49 <jeannielap> pirates++
07:25:11 <jeannielap> * jeannielap Snogs British Programmerguy
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07:46:39 <Jibbler> plusnet came good in the end
07:46:46 <Jibbler> they have upgraded me to 2mbit for free, yay
07:53:38 <xover> AaronSw: you around?
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07:58:11 <Monty> hey libby_
07:58:17 <xover> phenny: tell AaronSw I'm planning on moving email to a new box. We should look at a) avoiding this messing with your setup, and b) whether I should set up a permanent MX arrangement or something for you while I'm at it.
07:58:19 <phenny> xover: I'll pass that on for you when aaronsw is around.
07:58:26 <xover> * xover buggars off to work...
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09:15:13 <sbp> good match last night
09:16:09 <sbp> can't believe it went to penalties though
09:16:33 <sbp> you would've thought after six goals in the first 50-60 minutes that there'd be another one in the remaining 40-50
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10:41:28 <sbp> just linkified the #swhack logs
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11:13:37 <sbp> phenny: ask Morbus whether or not he thinks -1648EC in http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Banter_Scarves is slightly extreme (though it's obviously a joke)
11:13:38 <Anical> [ Banter Scarves - Gamegrene - Ghyll ]
11:13:39 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on for you when morbus is around.
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12:45:15 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's libby!
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12:45:49 <sbp> speak of the Monty, it's... Monty
12:45:51 <Monty> Apparently, you crave Estonian hippies :(
12:46:04 <sbp> .img Estonian hippie
12:46:06 <phenny> exceptions.IOError: [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')
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12:48:21 <crschmidt> weather kmht
12:48:23 <Anical> (kmht) Conditions at 0; Dewpoint: 46 F (8 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29 in. Hg (1006 hPa); Relative Humidity: 93%; Sky conditions: Light Rain; Temperature: 9 C (48 F);Visibility: 9 mile(s) (14 km); Wind: from the North (20 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT) gusting to 18 MPH (16 KT)
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12:55:20 <crschmidt> tip of the day:on almost any password prompt at the command line, ctrl-u will clear out what you've typed so far
12:55:24 <crschmidt> works in mysql, su, sudo, login prompts, etc.
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13:00:49 <sbp> hmm
13:00:50 <sbp> [[[
13:00:52 <sbp> The graves stood tenantless and the sheeted dead
13:00:52 <sbp> Did squeak and gibber in the Roman streets:
13:00:59 <sbp> ]]] - Hamlet, http://www-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/hamlet/hamlet.1.1.html
13:01:00 <Anical> [ SCENE I. Elsinore. A platform before the castle. ]
13:01:14 <sbp> [[[
13:01:15 <sbp> 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
13:01:15 <sbp> Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
13:01:23 <sbp> ]]] - Jabberwocky, http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/jabber/jabberwocky.html
13:01:36 <crschmidt> yeah, that was my first thought when I saw the Hamlet quote
13:01:41 <crschmidt> "Someone stealing from jabberwock?"
13:02:00 <sbp> heh
13:02:29 <sbp> .gc "gyre and gimble" "squeak and gibber"
13:02:31 <phenny> exceptions.IOError: [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')
13:02:34 <sbp> argh
13:02:45 <sbp> Your search - "gyre and gimble" "squeak and gibber" - did not match any documents.
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13:20:48 <Monty> welcome, uche
13:21:03 <uche> Monty, ^%@$^%##
13:21:05 <Monty> Morbus++ # you broke something.
13:21:10 <sbp> heh!
13:21:13 <Morbus> ahahahahahaha
13:21:15 <phenny> Morbus: 11:13Z <sbp> ask Morbus whether or not he thinks -1648EC in http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Banter_Scarves is slightly extreme (though it's obviously a joke)
13:21:16 <Anical> [ Banter Scarves - Gamegrene - Ghyll ]
13:21:17 <sbp> hey uche
13:21:20 <sbp> and Morb
13:21:26 <sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: <Monty> Morbus++ # you broke something.
13:21:29 <Morbus> sup. just saw my name. not in fron tof keyboard.
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13:21:33 <Morbus> -1648?
13:21:36 <sbp> yeup
13:21:36 <Morbus> the hell is that?
13:21:41 <sbp> in Banter_Scarves
13:21:45 <sbp> it's a date
13:21:46 <Morbus> i could care less about history.
13:21:48 <Morbus> so its non-obvious to me.
13:21:55 <Morbus> what is it?
13:21:59 <sbp> but it's Ghyll historyt
13:22:02 <sbp> s/t$//
13:22:08 <sbp> which you generally do care about
13:22:13 <Morbus> get to the point.
13:22:16 <Morbus> what's the earth equiv?
13:22:32 <sbp> well he mentions an anecdote from thousands of years ago
13:22:35 <sbp> but it sounds too lucid
13:22:38 <Morbus> ok. whatever.
13:22:40 <Morbus> * Morbus wanders off.
13:22:42 <sbp> as if you had an anecdote about...
13:22:45 <sbp> MOODY BASTARD
13:22:46 <Morbus> i don't have time for inspector gadgets
13:22:56 <sbp> it's *Ghyll*!
13:23:02 <sbp> you always have time for Ghyll!
13:23:19 <sbp> Ghyll's sulking now. I can hear it weeping
13:23:23 <sbp> weeping for its daddy
13:23:56 <Morbus> either phenny me the /actual/ reason why it matters, with an obvious "here why it sucks", and i'll address it when i get back
13:24:04 <Morbus> or, fuck, just leave a Talk:, non-playing ghyll whore.
13:24:21 <sbp> I was going to leave a Talk: but I wanted to discuss it with you first
13:24:32 <sbp> rather than being too negative to an apparently new player
13:24:54 <sbp> but instead, I'm just going to wait for jcowan
13:25:15 <sbp> or until you're listening to Disney songs
13:25:17 <sbp> whichever comes first
13:25:37 <sbp> bet you're listening to ICP, aren't you?
13:25:48 <sbp> it's like you become the music you listen to, temporarily
13:26:12 <sbp> hmm. that'd be a good Morbus Hack
13:26:20 <sbp> pump in some Van Morrison or something
13:26:34 <sbp> some Frank Sinatra
13:27:15 <sbp> and, and I know you're gone, I didn't give you the reason since I assumed you'd've read the page by now
13:28:05 <sbp> .gc ... argh
13:28:07 <phenny> ... argh: 1,800,000
13:28:12 <sbp> oh, neat
13:28:16 <sbp> .gc "Cod's Wallop"
13:28:18 <phenny> "Cod's Wallop": 117
13:28:22 <sbp> .gc codswallop
13:28:25 <phenny> codswallop: 40,200
13:34:58 <deltab> sbp: is there a problem with that date?
13:37:04 <sbp> deltab: -200EC was considered the cut-off point for accurate historical detail: "-200 EC :: Historical records before this point are difficult to decipher." - http://gamegrene.com/wiki/?title=Encyclopedant_Calendar&oldid=5675
13:37:05 <Anical> [ Encyclopedant Calendar - Gamegrene - Ghyll ]
13:37:42 <sbp> and though that appears to have disappeared from Encyclopedant_Calendar, just look at how many known events are on the timeline before -1000EC
13:37:50 <sbp> -1000EC is absolutely pre-historic
13:38:07 <deltab> um, really
13:38:08 <deltab> ?
13:38:21 <sbp> so talking about someone in clear detail who invented an ultraviolet-beaming scarf in -1648EC seems very inconsistent
13:38:50 <sbp> well what other details do we have from pre -1000?
13:39:16 <sbp> we have a few facts about the Nitenmangrey, and that's about it
13:39:28 <deltab> Kebonston Lefkrane's description of the Nitenmangrey in -1648
13:39:56 <Morbus> sbp: i'm still away, but /I/ removed the "difficult to decipher" text
13:40:05 <Morbus> more later
13:40:21 <sbp> I'd say that the Kebonston Lefkrane thing is also in error
13:40:49 <deltab> why?
13:40:50 <Anical> why is it lo... /me grumbles.
13:41:15 <deltab> Anical: forget why
13:41:16 <Anical> deltab: I forgot about why
13:41:54 <Morbus> sbp: part of the problem with not playing is not catchign every single change, or what have you.
13:42:21 <Morbus> I documented the fact that the -200 thing was an early game design balance thing, and that, now that we've got well-established histories and so forth, it's less of an issue.
13:42:35 <Morbus> then, I think I probably ResolvedTalk'd it.
13:43:07 <Morbus> likewise, the whole sentence in which 1648 is mentinoed is contesting its claimant as a fact.
13:47:36 <sbp> eh, whatever, I don't care
13:47:48 <sbp> trying to decipher this now:
13:47:49 <sbp> http://www.migraine-aura.org/images/Lewis_Carroll_MischmaschSmall.jpg
13:47:50 <Anical> [ jpeg (400 x 295) ]
13:48:22 <sbp> the labels are "Knowledge, Liveliness, Mirth, Good Humour, Taste, [something], Content"
13:48:27 <sbp> but I can't work out the something one
13:48:33 <sbp> I think it has "hilar" as a substring
13:48:36 <sbp> but towards the end
13:48:39 <sbp> so either it's two words...
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13:56:03 <deltab> sbp: Cheerfulness
13:57:13 <sbp> ooh, I think you're right about the start
13:57:25 <sbp> but... it looks so much like the end has an "ar" at least in it
13:58:10 <deltab> the N is slanted
13:58:22 <deltab> /\/
13:58:59 <sbp> ah!
13:59:09 <sbp> many thanks
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14:02:16 <Morbus> there.
14:02:18 <Morbus> done my morning chores.
14:02:18 <Morbus> ;)
14:02:59 <Morbus> sbp: did those changes on ortho last night.
14:03:06 <Morbus> the right'ing the first two, etc.
14:03:16 <sbp> * sbp looks
14:03:17 <Morbus> although, damn, it looks bad on a large resoluti9on now.
14:03:28 <Morbus> the 2nd picture floats into the 3rd picture's space.
14:03:46 <Morbus> * Morbus has to move the first image up another paragraph, he thinks.
14:04:05 <sbp> "These images purport to illustrate a four-dimensional concept in a three-dimensional space"
14:04:11 <sbp> 4D in 2D, in fact. even worse
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14:05:01 <Morbus> yeah.
14:05:02 <Morbus> heh
14:05:07 <sbp> yeah, I like that
14:05:20 <sbp> though the second image could be lfloated instead of rfloated, perhaps
14:05:29 <Morbus> i'm moving '
14:05:31 <Morbus> em up now.
14:06:23 <Morbus> done.
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14:29:17 <Jibbler> listen out for an interview with me on bbc world service soon :)
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14:33:37 <jsled> Jibbler: cool.
14:33:54 <jsled> what'cha talking about, Jibbler?
14:34:35 <xover> «BBC World Exclusive: All Osama's Men — The Sergeants of Al Qaeda»
14:37:13 <deltab> how soon?
14:50:29 <sbp> lisppaste2: url?
14:50:29 <lisppaste2> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/swhack and enter your paste.
14:50:34 <Anical> [ Enter your paste ]
14:51:05 <sbp> Jibbler: ETA?
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16:12:23 <redmonk> HELLO I'M SORRY I LOST MYSELF
16:19:20 <xover> sbp: No, I'm pretty sure it must be alQaeda. ETA is just kinda lame, not all that newsworthy.
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17:30:26 <sbp> hehe:
17:30:27 <sbp> [18:21] <timbl> Sandro?
17:30:27 <sbp> [18:24] <timbl> I have this time down as "Sandro Rules"
17:30:47 <crschmidt> "Yeah, he does!"
17:30:52 <crschmidt> I totally wanted to say that
17:30:59 <crschmidt> would have if it was anyone but timbl
17:31:03 <sbp> it's very hard to resist
17:31:59 <crschmidt> * crschmidt did it anyway
17:32:14 <sbp> brave. braaAAaAave
17:32:26 <crschmidt> pfft
17:32:27 <crschmidt> what's he going to do
17:32:32 <crschmidt> sick httpRange 14 on me?
17:32:35 <crschmidt> sic*
17:32:44 <sbp> um, he actually could
17:32:57 <sbp> not something that you joke about
17:32:59 <crschmidt> I would hope he's smarter than to try and do that
17:33:08 <crschmidt> Because i'm quite clearly a / ist
17:34:45 <xover> 7 Samurai, 47 Ronin, and The httpRange 14.
17:34:52 <sbp> hmm, I wonder if I should separate out all the parsers
17:36:43 <sbp> hmm
17:37:06 <sbp> then I could do Graph.feed(lang, data)
17:39:02 <sbp> that way...
17:39:07 <sbp> it'd be easy to add parsers
17:39:22 <sbp> easier
17:39:25 <crschmidt> ^contact kyzoku
17:39:29 <sbp> you'd just register it with parser.parsers
17:39:34 <crschmidt> * crschmidt pokes julie
17:39:37 <julie> Query returned no results
17:39:39 <crschmidt> thanks
17:39:51 <crschmidt> ^add http://www.livejournal.com/users/kyzoku/data/foaf
17:39:52 <julie> Adding http://www.livejournal.com/users/kyzoku/data/foaf to my database...
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17:44:12 <julie> Added 545 statements from http://www.livejournal.com/users/kyzoku/data/foaf. Model size is 2095061.
17:45:43 <crschmidt> ^contact kyzoku
17:45:44 <julie> Query returned no results
17:45:52 <crschmidt> ^sha kyzoku
17:45:53 <julie> Query returned no results
17:46:06 <crschmidt> bleh.
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18:52:35 <jsled> Wow. I was really hoping evolution 2.0 would have solved some memory-leak issues. It looks like it's even *worse* than 14.
18:53:25 <Morbus> what are people using for rss weather feeds nowadays?
18:53:40 <jsled> wunderground, but it sucks.
18:53:45 <Morbus> how so?
18:53:49 <crschmidt> I have bots for that.
18:53:58 <Morbus> crschmidt: I'm workign on the NHPR/Drupal convesion.
18:54:00 <jsled> It's just a list of "current weather conditions" every 2 hours or so.
18:54:09 <Morbus> what abour rssweather.com?
18:54:14 <crschmidt> Actually, I'm using NWS data for current stuff on the new manchester airport site
18:54:41 <crschmidt> They have a plain text version of the page, and their TOS allows for reuse/purposing of the data
18:54:48 <crschmidt> And makes it sound like scraping is okay
18:54:55 <Morbus> i'd rather not do a scraping. that's what i'm doing now.
18:55:00 <bancus> until it's outlawed
18:55:01 <Morbus> i'd like something Better.
18:55:14 <crschmidt> You'd rather scrape out of an RSS feed with HTML descriptions? :)
18:55:16 <Morbus> #block-user-0 .content {
18:55:16 <Morbus> font-size: 0.8em;
18:55:16 <Morbus> }
18:55:19 <Morbus> #block-user-0 .content {
18:55:19 <Morbus> font-size: 0.8em;
18:55:21 <Morbus> }
18:55:23 <Morbus> goddamit
18:55:26 <bancus> if you haven't been paying attention, a few weather data commercial providers are trying to pass a law outlawing the NWS giving their data away
18:55:43 <Morbus> crschmidt: http://www.rssweather.com/zipcode/03301/rss.php
18:55:44 <Anical> [ Concord, New Hampshire Weather ]
18:55:48 <Morbus> the <Description> there is perfect for me.
18:56:05 <Morbus> and its actually relatively the same as what i expect now: http://nhpr.org/
18:56:06 <Anical> [ New Hampshire Public Radio - Welcome! ]
18:56:14 <Morbus> s/cloudy/overcast/ and no pretty icons.
18:57:38 <sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: Real Swhackers use Telnet. Come on, it can do everything apart from wash your dog's balls! Heck, it'll even do that if you write a protocol for it.
18:58:06 <Morbus> doesn't look like rssweather.com has been update din a while though.
18:58:11 <Morbus> wunderground has rss exports?
18:58:25 <jsled> yah
18:58:40 <Morbus> any field that /just/ has the temp? or do i have to parse/strip?
18:59:26 <Morbus> hmmm.
18:59:29 <Morbus> seems pipe-delimited.
18:59:31 <Morbus> that could be useful.
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20:02:38 <crschmidt> Is there any downside any of you know of to using numbered UID/GIDs?
20:02:59 <jsled> in what context?
20:03:06 <jsled> and: no.
20:03:15 <jsled> :)
20:03:43 <crschmidt> I'm using PureFTPd, and want to give out unique UID/GIDs for FTP without creating full system accounts
20:03:53 <crschmidt> (Using the MySQL module to grant access)
20:05:00 <jsled> Oh. Those UID/GIDs...
20:05:10 <jsled> Numbered as opposed to what?
20:05:16 <crschmidt> * crschmidt shrugs
20:05:46 <crschmidt> I don't know. It seems that I can chown something to a numerical UID which doesn't exist in /etc/passwd, where I can't chown something a username which doesn't exist in /etc/passwd
20:06:14 <crschmidt> drwxr-xr-x 2 2005 2006 4096 May 26 14:59 tmp
20:06:14 <crschmidt> athena:~/admin# chown foo:bar tmp
20:06:14 <crschmidt> chown: `foo:bar': invalid user
20:08:08 <sbp> hmm... the ostensible filenames are... hmm
20:08:45 <sbp> ooh. ~/ for meta, and / for real
20:11:34 <sbp> [[[
20:11:35 <sbp> sbp@metashell:~/$ cd pub
20:11:35 <sbp> sbp@metashell:~/pub$ ls
20:11:35 <sbp> /aefram/ Atom Extensbility Framework
20:11:35 <sbp> /rss1.1/ RSS 1.1 Specification
20:11:35 <sbp> /shaks/pur Flibbertigibbet & Purre
20:11:36 <sbp> sbp@metashell:~/pub$
20:11:38 <sbp> ]]]
20:11:54 <sbp> bit weird to have /name/ in ~/name
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20:39:10 <Morbus> $weather_bit = preg_replace('/Temperature: /', '', $weather_bit);
20:39:14 <Morbus> what the hell is wrong with that line of code?
20:40:13 <Morbus> nevermind.
20:40:34 <jsled> Is it the //s?
20:40:45 <Morbus> nope.
20:40:55 <Morbus> a piss poor inline php error checker of my editor.
20:41:05 <Morbus> was actually a missing bracket five lines /down/ - not even before.
20:41:10 <jsled> wow.
20:41:11 <Morbus> but my editor highlighted that line as demonic.
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21:04:16 <bancus> rschmidt> I don't know. It seems that I can chown something to a numerical UID which doesn't exist in /etc/passwd, where I can't chown something a username which doesn't exist in /etc/passwd
21:04:32 <bancus> I believe that the FS stores uid/gid information as a numeric
21:04:39 <bancus> uses /etc/passwd for lookups
21:04:54 <crschmidt> right
21:04:59 <sbp> obviously
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21:05:23 <crschmidt> so I was asking if there's a problem just using numeric IDs that don't have any /etc/passwd listing
21:05:40 <bancus> don't believe so
21:05:56 <sbp> apart from the obvious problem of not being able to use them in a setting that can take both the alpha alphanum* names and the numerical ones
21:07:52 <ows> hi folks
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21:11:27 <Ash> hi sbp
21:11:30 <Ash> you are asploded
21:12:09 <sbp> hey Ash
21:13:30 <Ash> ho ho
21:13:31 <Ash> sup
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21:16:11 <sbp> just hacking on that shell thingy
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21:16:35 <Ash> what shell thingey
21:18:54 <sbp> a shell-like wrapper around a database system
21:19:16 <sbp> so... you can organize your stuff using virtual folders and the like
21:25:18 <deltab> crschmidt: only with programs that won't allow UIDs without names, and I don't know of any
21:25:32 <bancus> does anyone know if it's possible to buy a wireless keyboard that *doesn't* come with a mouse?
21:27:25 <jsled> certainly it's POSSIBLE.
21:28:39 <Ash> ah
21:33:54 <kpreid> what kind of wireless?
21:35:49 <bancus> any wireless
21:43:19 <kpreid> well, Apple sells their wireless keyboard by itself.
21:51:34 <bancus> bluetooth, heh
21:51:58 <bancus> looks nice otherwise
21:53:57 <bancus> their wireless mouse is actually more expensive than what I just bought the Logitech MX1000 for
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22:50:56 <Morbus> phenny, tell DrBacchus that I'm working on Infobot tonight.
22:50:58 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on for you when drbacchus is around.
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22:57:55 <Morbus> * Morbus goes off to eat.
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23:18:27 <JibberJim> @wunder lhr
23:18:39 <supybot> JibberJim: The current temperature in Heathrow, United Kingdom is 62°F (11:50 PM BST on May 26, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 59°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa.
23:22:35 <bjoern_> @wunder Mannheim
23:22:47 <supybot> bjoern_: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 28°F (4:00 PM CET on January 27, 2005). Conditions: Unknown Precipitation. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 14°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). Visibility: 25.0 miles 40.0 kilometers.
23:22:55 <bjoern_> Jan 2005 again?
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23:23:22 <bjoern_> @wunder Mannheim
23:23:34 <supybot> bjoern_: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 28°F (4:00 PM CET on January 27, 2005). Conditions: Unknown Precipitation. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 14°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). Visibility: 25.0 miles 40.0 kilometers.
23:23:41 <bjoern_> .t
23:23:43 <phenny> Thu, 26 May 2005 23:23:41 GMT
23:23:48 <JibberJim> It's cold in mannheim...
23:24:29 <Morbus> * Morbus goes off to eat.
23:24:30 <bjoern_> Yes, we are also some months behind the rest of the world...
23:24:33 <Morbus> whoops
23:24:49 <JibberJim> I guess it's not so surprising it's cold then...
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