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00:04:51 <BigJibby> Monty, do you like goat?
00:04:53 <Monty> I reckon arachnids + egotism = self-sufficiency!
00:05:08 <BigJibby> Monty, is that a yes?
00:05:12 <Monty> must have you find noet in Hebrew there was wrong opinions I'd come here
00:05:40 <BigJibby> @acronym ford
00:05:44 <supybot> BigJibby: ford could be Floating Ocean Research and Development (Station), or Forum for the Restoration of Democracy-People (Kenya), or Functional Objectives Requirements Document
00:06:07 <BigJibby> or Found on Road Dead
00:13:41 <uche> fix or repair daily
00:13:48 <uche> fucker only rolls downhill
00:13:50 <uche> etc.
00:14:16 <uche> Wisconsin is a great generator of insolent "FORD" pseudo-expansions
00:14:28 <uche> Wisconsin, as you can imagine, is Chevy country
00:16:23 <BigJibby> @chevy++
00:16:39 <deltab> acronym ford
00:16:39 <Monty> "FORD" - forth. on, rejoin Dennis
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00:29:23 <sbp> acronym acronym
00:29:23 <Monty> "ACRONYM" - areas chee-may Restoration oonly new, yet? marginally
00:29:30 <sbp> oonly
00:30:05 <sbp> acronym a
00:30:10 <sbp> acronym pq
00:30:10 <Monty> "PQ" - part Quality,
00:30:21 <sbp> acronym 10
00:30:22 <Monty> Sorry, I can't make acronyms out of "10"
00:30:31 <BigJibby> acronym sbp
00:30:31 <Monty> "SBP" - scarf, boards planet
00:31:05 <sbp> acronym ash
00:31:06 <Monty> "ASH" - ad, s!/!?! hours
00:31:23 <BigJibby> acronym swhack
00:31:24 <Monty> "SWHACK" - suspect worse. howdy assuming customer knife
00:31:35 <sbp> <Homer> handle first, handle first...
00:34:16 <xover> .w hart
00:34:20 <phenny> hart 1. United States playwright who collaborated with George S. Kaufman (1904-1961)
00:34:23 <phenny> hart 2. United States lyricist who collaborated with Richard Rodgers (1895-1943)
00:34:27 <phenny> hart 3. male red deer [...]
00:34:34 <xover> .ety hart
00:34:40 <phenny> hart: Middle English hert, from Old English heort; akin to Latin cervus hart, Greek keras horn -- more at HORN
00:35:52 <xover> * xover had been wondering about that for years without building the impetous to actually check it… :-)
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00:51:06 <sbp> [[[
00:51:06 <sbp> O sibili, si emgo!
00:51:06 <sbp> Fortibuses i naro.
00:51:07 <sbp> O nobili, demis trux.
00:51:07 <sbp> Vatis inem? Causan dux.
00:51:12 <sbp> ]]] - http://everywitchway.net/linguistics/languages/english/osibili.html
00:52:26 <verbosus> cough
00:52:36 <sbp> COUGH
00:52:55 <sbp> * sbp slips and accidentally destroys verbosus's "o"
00:53:08 <sbp> you are henceforth to be known as verbcsus
00:53:16 <verbosus> hehe
00:53:30 <sbp> but I think the c makes you more virile and sprightly
00:53:37 <sbp> so it's not all bad news
00:55:53 <sbp> BZEEP!
00:56:15 <sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: "YOU HAVE BEEN PRE-APPROVED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX PENIS-WHITENING PROGRAM! "
00:56:18 <sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: "YOU HAVE BEEN PRE-APPROVED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX PENIS-WHITENING PROGRAM!"
00:59:27 <BigJibby> that's just what I need!
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01:17:29 <verbosus> sleep!
01:17:31 <verbosus> bye
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02:04:38 <Monty> hey Arnia
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02:32:02 <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all. Hyperion 1.0 (release) looks ready to go. It includes patches for Y: line checking, unkline propagation, join throttling and ping timeout disable. In about 3.5 hours we'll upgrade the production network.
02:33:06 <lilo> [Global Notice] This will have a pretty major effect on network operations, but should, if all goes well, be over in about 10 minutes. Thanks in advance for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
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02:41:19 <Arnia> * Arnia hands Monty a banana
02:41:20 <Monty> Amy's grumpy with google marches onto being a I think im one lined up with rea
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03:18:22 <Monty> it's moira4!
03:18:34 <moira4> yeah
03:18:36 <moira4> :(
03:18:39 <moira4> * moira4 kicks freenode where it hurts
03:20:56 <jsled> moira4, can't you ghost out the other connections?
03:21:16 <moira4> not the ones that aren't auth'd presumably
03:21:22 <moira4> identified, whatever
03:21:38 <jsled> Well, why don't you ident them?
03:21:45 <jsled> JEEZ/
03:22:04 <jsled> jsled has changed the topic to: Cake. They all want cake.
03:22:19 <jsled> jsled has changed the topic to: Cake. They all want cake. (The retards, that is.)
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03:22:38 <jsled> NUMBER %?
03:23:06 <jsled> Say it with me: /msg nickserv identify password
03:23:20 <jsled> Also, why tor-ing?
03:24:45 <jsled> Also, nevermind.
03:26:00 <sbp> * sbp didn't know jsled wanted cake
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03:41:47 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
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04:01:00 <punkalot> !list
04:16:44 <Arnia> Badgercoon
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04:24:03 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
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05:47:38 <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all. In about 15 minutes, we'll be upgrading to hyperion 1.0 (release). Thank you in advance for your patience, and have a great morning!
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05:54:38 <Monty> hi uche
06:01:20 <lilo> [Global Notice] Okay, here we go.... see you on the other side, hopefully. (Thanks to Australia for lighting the way....)
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06:02:19 <Monty> But what does xover have to do with the price of fish?
06:02:19 <Monty> howdy, deltab
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06:02:43 <calvino.freenode.net> topic is: Cake. They all want cake. (The retards, that is.)
06:02:43 <calvino.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: loggy raxor jessica sbp jsled d8uv kpreid JibberJim sbp_ GabeW xower
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08:03:50 <bjoern_> @wunder Mannheim
08:04:23 <bjoern_> hmm, no supybot...
08:04:27 <bjoern_> Monty, stone
08:04:27 <Monty> I chose stone - Draw!
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09:54:02 <bjoern_> Monty, stone
09:54:03 <Monty> I chose scissors - You win :(
09:54:06 <bjoern_> yay!
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09:54:49 <Monty> hi MoiraA, how ya doing?
09:55:01 <MoiraA> doing fine Monty
09:55:03 <Monty> Hon. and whats happening)
09:55:05 <MoiraA> yourself?
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10:16:16 <eaon> Hey, I'm not a retard
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12:33:59 <zelazny.freenode.net> topic is: Cake. They all want cake. (The retards, that is.)
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13:19:56 <sbp> mmm... 421-6
13:20:22 <JibberJim> say that in a room chaals is in please
13:20:49 <jsled> 421-6?
13:23:04 <sbp> heh, heh
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13:47:12 <libby> blimey
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14:25:42 <Monty> hi nsh, how ya doing?
14:25:45 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
14:25:48 <Monty> Fortibuses i loved it. he doesnt know how I float the late 70s
14:29:13 <Morbus> http://www.antseyeview.com/archives/001653.html
14:29:14 <Morbus> aghahaha
14:30:09 <Morbus> cialias-casino.
14:30:11 <Morbus> tee hehe eheh eh
14:30:23 <sbp> hehe
14:31:37 <Morbus> this is very funny
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14:45:20 <xover> @YvesLafon++
14:45:22 <phenny> xover: 05:10Z <bjoern_> tell xover should we give Neil Roeth openjade cvs access? Neil would like to work on the gcc 4.x warnings you also noticed, debian packages changes and something to make DTDDECL processing optional (as there are performance bugs relative to it, I think)
14:46:32 <xover> phenny: tell bjoern_ Giving Neil CVS access sounds like a very good idea! :-)
14:46:34 <phenny> xover: I'll pass that on when bjoern_ is around.
14:47:09 <xover> @ChanServ--
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14:48:37 <Morbus> <Morbus> i'm very picky.
14:48:37 <Morbus> <m3avrck> gothc
14:48:37 <Morbus> <Morbus> gothcha?
14:48:37 <Morbus> <Morbus> is that like the dark and evil way of understanding what i'm saying?
14:48:37 <Morbus> * Morbus chuckles.
14:49:53 <xover> * xover was reading “Goth Hard Core”…
14:50:58 <xover> Jesus! Xbox 360 bundle for $1200?!?! WTF are these people smoking!
14:51:27 <Morbus> lol
14:51:36 <Morbus> i thought it was like 450 for the gamer system now.
14:51:42 <Morbus> and 300 for the loser version.
14:51:55 <Morbus> add on some games, it'd be 400 or 550, right?
14:52:00 <Morbus> didn't think it was up to 1200 <g>
14:52:07 <xover> It's GameSTop.com's “Ultimate Bundle” with 11 games etc., but still…
14:52:15 <Morbus> heheheheheh
14:52:33 <Morbus> yeah. shit. for that kind of movey you can buy a small car and a knife and wage a real war GTA.
14:52:38 <Morbus> in fact, i think everyone should do that.
14:52:48 <Morbus> and then blame the game.
14:53:02 <xover> The game? Blame Microsoft fer cryin out loud!
14:53:17 <Morbus> well, that's the reason, not the inspiration.
14:53:37 <xover> “Rockstar freed; Microsoft Game Studios implicated in GTA-like killing spree.”
14:53:47 <Morbus> if you kill your wife cos she slept with someone else, but you copycat a serial killer, they blame the serial killer's influence, not the guy who slept with the wife.
14:54:42 <xover> Which probably means he's the guy you should have reduced to a red smudge in the first place...
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14:55:01 <Morbus> right, but if you kill microsoft, then linux and apple will rise to power.
14:55:07 <Morbus> and that will destory them - they only function well as the underdog.
14:55:14 <Morbus> once they're the top dog, they'll stagnate.
14:55:18 <xover> xover has changed the topic to: Usefull Tips That Every Aspiring Killer Should Know!
14:55:31 <Morbus> Morbus has changed the topic to: Usefull Tips That Every Aspiring Killer Should Know! <Morbus> And Spelling Isn't One of Them!
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14:56:49 <xover> Actually, I wonder about that. Both Linux and Apple might actually pull off beeing the big dog without stagnating, if for different reasons.
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14:57:03 <Morbus> in what sorta timeframe?
14:57:22 <Morbus> oh. just generically.
14:57:29 <xover> medium-term. long-term is hard tyo predict, and I don't think either would change dramatiucally short-term.
14:57:59 <Morbus> the problem with Linux is that there *is* no Linux.
14:58:10 <Morbus> who would represent Linux?
14:58:13 <xover> But Apple has a “Culture of Excellence” thing going on that might save them, and Linux has a lot of drive that just happens to be expended on playing catch-up right now.
14:58:21 <Morbus> when you say Linux, people want someone to point a finger at, or blame, or invest in, or love.
14:58:31 <Morbus> and there's none of that
14:58:40 <xover> That's what Red Hat and Novell are for. :-)
14:58:49 <Morbus> ew.
14:58:59 <Morbus> I wouldn't go with RH, and I know crap about Novell.
14:59:08 <Morbus> that's the problem though.
14:59:15 <xover> Novell == SuSE++
14:59:17 <Morbus> all the hardcore linux folks, who make it what it is, would HATE to have RH as their rep.
14:59:22 <Morbus> ah, yeah, i use suse.
14:59:28 <xover> right
14:59:42 <Morbus> and fedora core.
14:59:43 <Morbus> but shuddup.
14:59:47 <xover> You did know Novell has bought SuSE, right?
14:59:48 <Morbus> i still wouldn't support RH
14:59:48 <Morbus> <g>
14:59:57 <Morbus> I know that SuSE just announced their openSuSE thing.
15:00:02 <Morbus> that's about it. I don't really read Linux news.
15:00:07 <Morbus> Don't much care about Linux news.
15:00:31 <Morbus> i think the only linux-news rss i have is osnews.com.
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15:00:31 <Monty> hi danja
15:00:35 <xover> Novell has bought out SuSE and Ximian, and some other Linux tech IIRC, and have far and away completely converted to a Linux company.
15:00:37 <Morbus> hey danja.
15:00:44 <Morbus> no response from the rss3 guy about our C&D.
15:01:01 <xover> They're salesdroids show up with Linux laptops these days, to our great amusement. :-)
15:01:19 <xover> “Their,” even.
15:01:27 <Morbus> heh
15:02:00 <Morbus> http://www.kbcafe.com/rss/?guid=20050825151422
15:02:02 <xover> And “NetWare” now runs as a service layer on top of a Linux kernel; traditional NetWare is pretty much dead.
15:02:04 <Morbus> * Morbus sighs.
15:02:58 <sbp> Morin is not all that... you know
15:03:08 <Morbus> yeah. i didn't even know he purported to run an rss blog
15:03:18 <Morbus> i know i consider him a winer cronie though.
15:03:47 <xover> NPSS — Not Particularly Simple Syndication
15:04:05 <sbp> I know from previous coverage that he isn't particularly perceptive
15:04:09 <xover> QCS — Quite Complicated Syndication
15:04:15 <sbp> and a bit annoyingly so
15:04:26 <Morbus> yeah.
15:05:13 <xover> Did anything ever happen with the “Nevermind a dedicated format, lets extend XHTML instead” stuff?
15:05:26 <Morbus> Not that I know of.
15:05:28 <sbp> he's volumnious too though
15:05:35 <sbp> nah, danbri was hacking on that line
15:05:44 <Morbus> well, people like that like to hear themselves talk.
15:05:49 <sbp> you know, that probably is the best approach
15:05:55 <sbp> 'cause then you don't need separate source
15:05:55 <Morbus> they look at their big blog post and say "yah! I RulEEE"
15:06:19 <Morbus> my ghyll entry this week is gonna suck!
15:06:21 <Morbus> i have no time!
15:06:24 <sbp> why's that? ah
15:06:25 <Morbus> in fact, that's the first line of my entry!
15:06:30 <Morbus> "Listen. Hey, listen. Hey! Whistling noise! That's right. I don't have much time.
15:06:30 <Morbus> "
15:06:31 <sbp> heh, heh
15:06:37 <Morbus> i told you.
15:06:42 <Morbus> i arr teh mastah
15:07:14 <Morbus> oh crap.
15:07:19 <Morbus> i have to research insert sleep.
15:07:22 <Morbus> fuck
15:07:23 <xover> My use case is <http://validator.w3.org/> “What's New” section, or <http://validator.w3.org/whatsnew.html>; neither of which are suited to a separate feed.
15:08:03 <sbp> you could always do the embedded blah thing and then XSLT out Atom/RSS 1.0
15:08:07 <Morbus> ooh http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20000219/fob4.asp
15:08:09 <edsu> sbp: did you ever write a bot for talking to pwyky?
15:08:26 <sbp> hi edsu. I started on one, yes
15:08:30 <xover> Yeah, verbal just wrote up the XSLT for that, which was how I came to think about this again.
15:08:33 <Morbus> hey edsu.
15:08:45 <edsu> hi morby
15:09:46 <edsu> sbp: really? is it workable yet?
15:10:04 <Morbus> [[[
15:10:04 <Morbus> Listen. Hey, listen. Hey! Whistling noise! That's right. I don't have much time. And, I'm talking "not enough time cos I'm running for my life", not "not enough time because this entry is suffiently bOoOorrrRRIing" because ''some'' of our [[User:Jcowan|scholars]] think that normal and mundane words should be part of our previously exciting and unique body of work.
15:10:04 <Morbus> ]]
15:10:06 <Morbus> ]
15:10:15 <sbp> edsu: not as such. I abandoned it long ago
15:10:34 <sbp> I'm not even sure where the source is or how far I got. I think I was along fairly far
15:11:13 <sbp> jcowan, normal and mundane?
15:11:41 <Morbus> he wanted less person/location words.
15:11:43 <edsu> sbp: if you run across it let me know, i might pick up where you left off
15:11:47 <sbp> oh right
15:11:57 <sbp> edsu: sure, I might attempt to dig it out for you
15:15:48 <sbp> edsu: would you be running it on the server where the wiki is?
15:15:58 <edsu> sbp: i could yeah
15:16:10 <Morbus> edsu: in other words "i may, on the goodness of my heart, try to dig it out for you, but it'll only be an intent made with a half-hearted gesture, so just go code it yourself"
15:16:37 <edsu> heheh, i wouldn't expect any more :)
15:16:47 <sbp> well, the problem is that I've written so many damn things along these lines it'll be difficult to find, and it's on another box or may be stuffed in an archival CDR etc.
15:16:53 <edsu> * edsu likes reading sbp python anyway :)
15:17:14 <sbp> I wrote a bot once that was specifically designed to edit stuff over IRC, in an almost-pwyky format
15:17:17 <sbp> that's online
15:17:23 <Morbus> edsu: in other words "listen, i'm more important than you. i've written your damn script thirty different ways with twelve differnet languages, and its beneath me to even acknowledge its existence."
15:17:36 <sbp> URI in privmsg, 'cause I haven't cleaned it up and released it yet
15:17:54 <crschmidt> jotbot?
15:17:56 <sbp> yeah
15:17:59 <Morbus> edsu: in other words "URI in privmsg, 'cause I haven't cleaned it up and released it yet"
15:18:04 <edsu> sbp: grazi
15:18:53 <sbp> jotbot was kinda cool
15:19:00 <xover> * xover hires Morbus as a permanent translator on #swhack…
15:19:14 <sbp> I love Morbus, he's great
15:19:17 <sbp> (translate that)
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15:19:27 <Morbus> "one time, i had sex with a goat"
15:19:30 <sbp> hahaha
15:19:33 <Morbus> :D
15:19:39 <sbp> wow, he is good
15:20:41 <edsu> would certainly make the United Nations more entertaining
15:21:10 <edsu> or incite World War 3.1
15:21:20 <sbp> or get the delegates to have sex with one another
15:21:35 <sbp> <America> Russia, you have beautiful eyes.
15:21:40 <edsu> yeah, i think that would fall into the 'entertaining' category
15:21:44 <Morbus> heheh
15:21:45 <sbp> aye
15:21:59 <Morbus> <India> Please be enjoyink my curry.
15:22:12 <sbp> enjoyink? that's more like Hungary or Romania
15:22:24 <Morbus> yeah, he was born in romania, but moved to india.
15:22:27 <sbp> ahh
15:22:39 <sbp> mix of styles, I see
15:23:00 <sbp> <Norway> Elk?! Where?!!
15:23:29 <xover> * xover thinks you have him confused with Canada.
15:23:31 <Morbus> <Canada> Eh?
15:23:35 <sbp> heh, heh
15:23:51 <sbp> I thought elk were the beasts you had a problem wtih
15:23:56 <sbp> wihtiht
15:24:32 <xover> Interstingly, the Norwegian for “Elk,” “Elg,” is also a verb; “å elge,” “to elk,” means to throw up.
15:24:55 <sbp> heh!
15:25:03 <Morbus> <Helsinki> Lemme clean that up for you.
15:25:08 <sbp> must remember to use that... "ugh, I'm gonna elk"
15:26:11 <xover> So “Å rope på elgen,” “to call (for) the elk”, is what you do after having a little too much to drink.
15:27:51 <Morbus> wait, you request to throw up?
15:27:58 <Morbus> is that like a willpower way of sticking your finger down your throat?
15:28:32 <Morbus> imgonnaelkimgonnaelkimgonnaeohgodimelkingimelkingoohsorrycarl
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15:29:05 <sbp> did you just elk on carl?!
15:29:16 <Morbus> * Morbus nods weakly.
15:29:26 <sbp> this is like the best loanverb ever
15:29:26 <xover> And there's a “Porsgrunn Porselenfabrikk,” “Porsgrunn Porcelain Factory,” who are quite famous for the simple reason that as they produce most toilets in Norway, and they place their logo strategically, everyone who has ever spent a night hanging over a toilet has their name and logo permanently imprinted in their memory.
15:29:47 <Morbus> heh.
15:29:49 <sbp> like Armitage Shanks everywhere else
15:30:28 <sbp> (the name of the first song on Green Day's "Insomniac", incidentally)
15:30:33 <danja> hi guys - now I'm off out
15:30:39 <sbp> heh. hibye, danja!
15:30:41 <xover> .gc "Porsgrunn Porselensfabrikk"
15:30:44 <phenny> "Porsgrunn Porselensfabrikk": 53
15:30:47 <danja> * danja not really got the hang or irc yet...
15:31:05 <danja> s/or/of
15:31:17 <Morbus> sbp: "This has got to be the stupidest entry ever. Hey. Shuddup. That other one I was drunk.
15:31:17 <Morbus> "
15:31:18 <sbp> .gc "Armitage Shanks"
15:31:21 <phenny> "Armitage Shanks": 41,800
15:31:25 <Morbus> danja: it's really easy.
15:31:25 <sbp> heh, heh
15:31:33 <Morbus> you type words, you hit enter.
15:31:36 <Morbus> than you go "heh, heh"
15:31:39 <Morbus> repeat.
15:31:41 <danja> heh heh
15:31:45 <Morbus> there ya go!
15:31:46 <danja> heh heh
15:31:47 <sbp> no: heh, heh
15:31:52 <danja> heh, heh
15:31:55 <sbp> excellent
15:31:57 <Morbus> this guy learns fast.
15:31:58 <sbp> now type words
15:32:00 <danja> heh
15:32:04 <danja> errr heh
15:32:04 <sbp> see, brilliance
15:32:17 <Morbus> one of these days, we'll teach you about the blammo balance.
15:32:26 <Morbus> speaking of which, danja, you should play ghyll.
15:32:28 <sbp> well that's jcowan's responsibility anyway
15:32:50 <xover> .gc "Blammo Balance"
15:32:53 <phenny> "Blammo Balance": 118
15:32:55 <danja> brb
15:33:02 <Morbus> .g "blammo balance"
15:33:04 <phenny> "blammo balance": http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Heh-blammo_balance
15:33:08 <Morbus> .g ghyll
15:33:11 <phenny> ghyll: http://www.holbeckghyll.com/
15:33:12 <Morbus> * Morbus curses.
15:33:20 <Morbus> we gotta send a death squad to their server.
15:33:50 <sbp> it's amazing, isn't it? presumably because they've been around for a while
15:33:54 <sbp> and Google favours older sites
15:34:01 <Morbus> because google is an elitist.
15:34:03 <Morbus> punk.
15:34:09 <sbp> heh
15:34:44 <Morbus> hey!
15:34:49 <Morbus> gamegrnee has been around longer than that site.
15:34:55 <Morbus> but a whole 13 months.
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15:35:04 <xover> .sig it and post to lists.w3.org?
15:35:39 <verbosus> OMG! WTF? OIC.
15:35:50 <Morbus> .g i put the demon back in codemonkey
15:35:53 <phenny> i put the demon back in codemonkey: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8433&style=flat&viewday=25&viewmonth=200306
15:36:36 <sbp> lists.w3.org gets hardly any PR whatsoever these days
15:36:47 <sbp> they totally slammed it. must've singled it out by hand
15:38:23 <Morbus> beginnign of a response to a forteana message:
15:38:24 <Morbus> [[[
15:38:24 <Morbus> For what it's worth, I don't answer my phone either, nor do I even *meet* with other people. Your Fort quote, about the telephone ringing, is very akin to a door to me - door's are great to keep people out, but they can stand out there knocking for hours yelling "I know you're in there, I can see you!" without realizing that I have on desire to see them.
15:38:25 <Morbus> ]]]
15:39:05 <xover> @Morbus++
15:39:53 <verbosus> Morbus: s/on/no/
15:40:31 <Morbus> With that said, I am heartily "connected" when it comes to technology - I write books teaching other people technology, I get a zillion emails a day, all filtered and color coded based on a stringent list of desires, and until IM started becoming like a phone ("hi, you there? hello? your idle meter says you're there. what's wrong? are you mad at me? I'm gonna call you"), I was on there a lot too.
15:41:41 <sbp> heh, that annoys me about IRC
15:41:48 <Morbus> * Morbus is adding a comment about irc and swhack.
15:41:54 <sbp> when I started doing the /pingself thing, people thought that I wasn't speaking to them
15:42:02 <PhUrl> PhUrl (n=mdupont@p54B16BCE.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #swhack
15:42:09 <sbp> and people msg me when I'm not connected to dircproxy, too, and expect me to be around
15:42:25 <jessica> I have to argue it's not necessarily rude to assume someone in a real-time medium is willing to talk in real-time.
15:42:26 <sbp> but all in all, IRC is pretty rad along those lines
15:42:33 <sbp> I don't answer the phone either
15:42:33 <Morbus> * Morbus links to a with post.
15:42:43 <jessica> I don't answer the phone because I can't HEAR over the phone.
15:43:23 <Morbus> [[[
15:43:23 <Morbus> Nowadays, the only real-time communication I'm in (where email is not real-time) is IRC, where the very nature of "he hasn't responded for three hours" means "he's having sex with his wife" and not "OH NOE. MY EGO IS CRUSHED!" and the level of intellect is relatively higher than normal (for instance, I'm a regular on swhack.com, which would be of remote interest to some folks here - here's a post from a good friend of mine:
15:43:23 <Morbus> http://inamidst.com/notes/newwords
15:43:23 <Morbus> ]]]
15:43:41 <Morbus> from his original email, Loren:
15:43:42 <Morbus> Do you think it issues partially from a specific Fortean sense of the world?
15:44:42 <sbp> does who think *what* issues from etc.?
15:44:45 <verbosus> I don’t even have a mobile phone
15:44:57 <verbosus> do you, sbp, Morbus, jessica?
15:44:59 <Morbus> bah, members only for the archives.
15:45:02 <Morbus> i don't.
15:45:04 <sbp> certainly not
15:45:09 <xover> Oh dear gods. _IRC_ represents a "relatively higher" "level of intellect"?!?
15:45:17 <Morbus> sbp: the "i'm not in the phone book" which Loren hears from numerous forteans.
15:45:18 <sbp> heh, heh
15:45:26 <sbp> ah, interesting
15:45:38 <Morbus> xover: i've yet to see a swhack on IM, and i don't think swhack would be possible on a mailing list.
15:45:44 <Morbus> and if it were ,it'd be quite different.
15:46:02 <verbosus> I tried IMing Morbus some time, and he was all “WTF?”
15:46:10 <Morbus> "who the fuck is this?"
15:46:14 <verbosus> yeah
15:46:18 <sbp> <verbosus> LO?
15:46:20 <sbp> <Morbus> WTF?
15:46:25 <Morbus> <verbosus> I'll call you.
15:46:25 <sbp> <verbosus> OMG
15:46:28 <sbp> <Morbus> LOL
15:46:31 <sbp> <verbosus> OIC
15:46:34 <xover> * xover is actually on AIM (via iChat), MSN, and now Google Talk.
15:46:41 <verbosus> hehe
15:47:09 <xover> Not that I really know why, as it's only to talk to my SO, her sister, and her friend. Ok. I suddenly got why.
15:47:10 <verbosus> * verbosus is on AIM, MSN, Jabber, YahooIM
15:47:19 <verbosus> I actually use IM quite a lot
15:47:27 <Morbus> sbp: we should add "forteana" to the swhack.com site <g>
15:47:31 <Morbus> QUICK!
15:47:34 <Morbus> wtf.
15:47:36 <verbosus> to keep in touch with friends, relatives, Morbus…
15:47:48 <Morbus> i don't have any relatives i care to interact with.
15:48:02 <xover> * xover would prefer not to touch Morbus…
15:48:06 <Morbus> and i don't want to give my friends the power of a popup window.
15:48:18 <Morbus> cos then they won't be my friends no more.
15:48:19 <Morbus> ;)
15:48:20 <sbp> Morbus: done
15:48:29 <Morbus> sbp: thanks.
15:48:38 <Morbus> right in the middle of a bunch of tech words. heh.
15:49:00 <sbp> :-)
15:49:11 <sbp> to reflect what really happens on channel!
15:49:20 <Morbus> lol.
15:49:20 <Morbus> <sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: "YOU HAVE BEEN PRE-APPROVED FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX PENIS-WHITENING PROGRAM! "
15:49:21 <verbosus> in the middle of a bunch of teh words!
15:49:22 <PhUrl> google talk....
15:49:25 <Morbus> yeah, they're gonna think we're smart all right.
15:49:32 <Morbus> just checking out today's chat log.
15:49:34 <sbp> heh, heh. that was from Achewood
15:50:01 <verbosus> Achewood is teh r0xxorz
15:50:06 <sbp> yeah, you might want to give another day if you're looking for example logs :-)
15:50:10 <verbosus> Achewood pwnz!
15:50:14 <Morbus> too late. already sent the message.
15:50:20 <sbp> fair enough
15:50:22 <Morbus> i posted your Lo, New Words thing though.
15:50:25 <Morbus> so, that may outweight it.
15:50:25 <sbp> awesome
15:50:28 <sbp> hehe
15:50:38 <sbp> yeah, I like that Fort quote at the end
15:51:18 <sbp> did you see the Old Ford thing? that was Fortean inspired
15:51:37 <sbp> actually, WPIT is based a lot around the style of study that Fort had
15:51:58 <sbp> I mean, he spent like twenty years going through old newspapers and journals looking for interesting stuff
15:52:09 <sbp> that's just so awesome
15:52:42 <Morbus> ooh, i got a response .
15:52:46 <Morbus> [[[
15:52:47 <Morbus> I've recently found this is an astonishingly effective way of dealing with the
15:52:47 <Morbus> religious maniacs who occasionally feel the need to go waking up the decent
15:52:47 <Morbus> people of my street on Saturday mornings with the intention of talking deranged
15:52:47 <Morbus> crap at them. Just let them keep knocking, and make it abundantly clear that
15:52:49 <Morbus> you're in there, just not interested in talking to them. It's not as satisfying
15:52:51 <Morbus> as telling them to fuck off and slamming the door in their faces, but the last
15:52:53 <Morbus> time I did it, they just gave up and left the rest of the block alone, too.
15:52:55 <Morbus> ]]]
15:53:09 <sbp> ha
15:53:21 <sbp> "woah, this block don't answer their doors. devil's got 'em good"
15:54:28 <edsu> "they probably want hugo chavez's cheep gas too..."
15:54:51 <sbp> canary farts?
15:55:45 <sbp> I said "sneek peek" the other day, thinking about it
15:56:02 <sbp> all ea words pronounced eeeeeeee should be ee
15:56:34 <Morbus> [[[
15:56:35 <Morbus> I agree immensely, but I find it *more* satisfying in the long run:
15:56:35 <Morbus> * Knock, knock. <open door, look>. Slam door. This justifies them
15:56:35 <Morbus> with a response. It may not be a polite response, but it's one
15:56:35 <Morbus> that certifies that *they* exist, and that *you* are a sinner.
15:56:38 <Morbus> * Your scenario above. You're not even justifying them with an
15:56:38 <Morbus> acknowledgment. You're wasting *their* time and their additional
15:56:39 <Morbus> effort to try to reach someone who may innocently be deaf,
15:56:41 <Morbus> sidetracked, or wearing headphones. It's a similar principle
15:56:43 <Morbus> as picking up the phone on a junk call and not responding, but
15:56:45 <Morbus> just letting them say "Hello?" over and over again. You're
15:56:47 <Morbus> wasting their time, and saving someone else's, all at no
15:56:51 <Morbus> expense or effort to you.
15:56:53 <Morbus> ]]]
15:57:20 <Morbus> * Morbus revises slightly.
15:58:19 <edsu> canary farts, nice way of correcting me spellings
15:58:32 <Morbus> ...
15:58:32 <Morbus> that certifies that *they* exist, and that *you* are a sinner.
15:58:32 <Morbus> Adversity keeps these people going - they love being the only
15:58:32 <Morbus> ones right and having an entire world to fix.
15:59:02 <JibberJim> 22-3
15:59:49 <sbp> JibberJim: yeah!
15:59:53 <Morbus> what's that?
16:00:01 <sbp> last one seemed to get a nick though
16:00:18 <sbp> Morbus: you won't want to know, but if you do, read past this colon: cricket
16:00:44 <Morbus> you know, i've never watched a cricket game. i've only heard all the against-cricket-wackos.
16:00:46 <sbp> what is over the other side of this question mark? these words!
16:01:01 <sbp> really? cool
16:01:05 <JibberJim> you should Morbus, everyone should go to a full days play
16:01:11 <Morbus> yeah. i wouldn't mind.
16:01:13 <sbp> you must have a pretty weird impression of it then
16:01:21 <Morbus> sbp: not really.
16:01:33 <Morbus> i try not to pass judgment until i experience it myself.
16:01:35 <sbp> well it's a pretty weird game anyway :-)
16:01:41 <sbp> the history is awesome
16:01:49 <Morbus> i just wish they wouldn't use hedgehogs as balls.
16:01:51 <Morbus> that seems pretty mean.
16:01:58 <sbp> it started out, they think, by bored shepherds tossing stuff at gates
16:02:04 <sbp> no, no
16:02:08 <sbp> they're trained hedgehogs
16:02:12 <Morbus> oh. phew.
16:02:17 <Morbus> like pornographers.
16:02:18 <sbp> yeah. they get a wage and stuff
16:02:21 <Morbus> they get nude and nasty cos they want to.
16:02:24 <sbp> right
16:02:35 <Morbus> i love when people speak out against violence and nudity in movies.
16:02:45 <Morbus> or rape scenes in movies or what have you.
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16:02:51 <sbp> whysat?
16:03:32 <Morbus> because, they seem to place the violence and nudity in the real world, without realizing that the people receiving the violence and nudity (not inflicting, receiving or, in the case of nudity, displaying) wanted and/or chose to do it.
16:03:54 <Morbus> what was it... scarlet johannsen? she wanted to get nude in the scene of her new movie, when the director had her in a bra?
16:04:03 <Morbus> * Morbus pokes around.
16:04:11 <kandinsk1> we need more Scarlet Johannsen
16:04:19 <kandinsk1> we haven't got enough Scarlet Johannsen in our lives
16:05:00 <Morbus> yeah: http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2005/07/scarlett_johansson_insisted_on_topless_scene_in_the_island.html
16:06:10 <verbosus> kandinski1: “Scarlett Johansson”
16:06:24 <verbosus> or so claims the IMDB, anyway
16:06:24 <sbp> well the argument is that the viewers are unable to discern the difference between TV and REALITY and that seeing rape and murder and toplessness on the TV incites them to go out and be rapey, murderous, and topless
16:06:57 <sbp> but of course the actuality is that it's only those select few idiots that worry about it that cannot tell the difference. the rest of us are just fine
16:07:12 <sbp> also, I wonder what they think about, say books vs. TV vs. videogames
16:07:21 <Morbus> sbp: and I say, more power to them. I'd rather have them very publically do those things so we can put them away then have them be secretly idiotic and have a nice, sane person waste twenty years of marriage with them
16:07:36 <sbp> when police investigate rape claims, does the fact that they have to hear about it all day make them become rapists?
16:07:50 <Morbus> don't even get me started on rape claims.
16:07:58 <Morbus> .g devil shat rape means hello in sign language
16:08:01 <phenny> devil shat rape means hello in sign language: http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/ds980521.htm
16:08:45 <sbp> I think there's also a strong correlation between low sex-crimes and high sex-freedom, e.g. in Holland and Sweden
16:09:06 <Morbus> sbp: i agree. the minute something ISN'T naughty, the minute no one cares to do it.
16:09:51 <Morbus> i should really revise some of these articles.
16:09:54 <sbp> "you can refute this up the ass" - heh, heh
16:09:55 <Morbus> they're pisspoorly worded.
16:10:07 <Morbus> but, as i've said a thousand times before, i'll look back on my revisions in twenty years and say the same thing.
16:10:10 <sbp> well that bit is good :-)
16:10:11 <sbp> yeah
16:12:33 <kandinsk1> ignoring also the fact that murder and rape can be bad, but toplessness is victimless
16:13:24 <Morbus> kandinsk1: actually, not so much anymore.
16:13:25 <sbp> hahaha, then you get to the next article and it starts: [[[
16:13:25 <sbp> morbus is a nuthead
16:13:25 <sbp> by Ivy
16:13:26 <sbp> ]]]
16:13:32 <Morbus> some guy was convicted because he was flashing his manboobs at ladies.
16:13:40 <Morbus> sbp: yeah, i specifically asked for a rebuttal piece.
16:13:53 <kandinsk1> WHAT?
16:14:00 <Morbus> yeah, i read this recently
16:14:00 <kandinsk1> convicted for flashing manboobs?
16:14:11 <kandinsk1> he was the victim then
16:14:12 <Morbus> yeah. that's gonna be hard to find again.
16:14:18 <Morbus> cos, you know, man boobs.
16:14:30 <verbosus> Morbus: was that in America?
16:14:48 <Morbus> of course it was.
16:14:52 <Morbus> how could it not be america.
16:15:22 <sbp> .gc man boobs
16:15:24 <verbosus> indeed
16:15:25 <phenny> man boobs: 1,210,000
16:15:32 <verbosus> .gc manboobs
16:15:34 <phenny> manboobs: 10,100
16:15:46 <sbp> .gc manboobies
16:15:48 <phenny> manboobies: 4,310
16:15:54 <sbp> .gc mantits
16:15:56 <Morbus> found it.
16:15:57 <phenny> mantits: 862
16:15:58 <sbp> .gc manbreasts
16:16:01 <phenny> manbreasts: 3,010
16:16:01 <Morbus> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.thesun.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2-2005330128%2C00.html&ei=4z8PQ-GAOaueaPDQqcQK
16:16:05 <Morbus> whoops.
16:16:09 <sbp> muahahaha
16:16:09 <Morbus> this is a fakir site.
16:16:13 <Morbus> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005330128,00.html
16:16:16 <sbp> those URIs are so annoying
16:16:32 <Morbus> here we go:
16:16:33 <Morbus> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161748,00.html
16:16:37 <sbp> did you see the Greasemonkey thing I wrote to get aroun dit?
16:16:38 <Morbus> not that fox is any better.
16:16:43 <Morbus> i don't use greasemonkey.
16:16:50 <verbosus> 23 year-old
16:17:12 <Morbus> http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/07/05/breasts.html
16:17:20 <verbosus> this is a slightly better URI
16:17:43 <jsled> "chin-length"?
16:18:13 <sbp> *culminating*?
16:18:36 <sbp> huh, actually, when you see the pictures...
16:18:42 <verbosus> oh, the guy has had breast implants
16:19:02 <sbp> no, "It's unclear if the man has breasts that are larger than the average male's or if he has breast implants."
16:19:20 <verbosus> ah, so the Sun got the story wrong
16:19:21 <sbp> at all events, it's insane. what about breast feeding in public and so on?
16:19:26 <Morbus> yeah, don't trust the sun.
16:19:28 <Morbus> they're yellow.
16:19:31 <sbp> and ankles were once totally taboo
16:19:33 <verbosus> I have no problems with breastfeeding in public
16:19:44 <verbosus> my girlfriend hates it
16:19:46 <sbp> the Sun is Britain's page-3 paper
16:19:53 <verbosus> she hates seeing women doing it
16:19:58 <sbp> which means it has topless girls just inside the first cover
16:19:59 <Morbus> i wish folktown had a page-3 paper.
16:20:08 <sbp> so it has a vested interest in covering this story
16:20:21 <sbp> yeah, but what would Ghyllians show?
16:20:27 <sbp> their secret mandible?
16:20:42 <Morbus> hmm. well, aedeaguses wouldn't be public.
16:20:42 <sbp> "She flashed her secret mandible at me!"
16:20:45 <sbp> aha
16:20:55 <Morbus> actually, i don... oh, wait, we have talked abotu clothes.
16:21:03 <Morbus> one of the festivals had a description of the clothes.
16:21:05 <Morbus> darseed, i think.
16:21:15 <sbp> "Officer! He painted his aedeagus flourescent green and dangled it in our window!"
16:21:15 <Morbus> yeah, i don't know what a female bug would hide.
16:21:24 <sbp> her stomach scars
16:21:24 <Morbus> i don't know if female bugs have breastquivalents.
16:21:28 <Morbus> heh!
16:21:57 <sbp> * sbp expects this to crop up Very Soon in Ghyll...
16:22:06 <Morbus> i'm working on ths sleep entry.
16:22:13 <Morbus> which is turning out super crappy.
16:22:18 <Morbus> Let's see, sleep, sleep. You know, when you know something so well that it's fiftyieth-nature, it's hard to think of a way to describe it in besides "we go to sleep" and "we take naps". Um. So. Our primary sleep session is about five hours a day.
16:24:52 <verbosus> * verbosus is having a hard time with Apache and conneg
16:29:25 <sbp> for DNN?
16:29:46 <Morbus> no, for ghyll.
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16:38:33 <sbp> ohh
16:38:45 <sbp> 58-4, going superbly at the moment
16:39:09 <sbp> .gc fiftyieth-nature
16:39:12 <phenny> fiftyieth-nature: 0
16:39:20 <Morbus> yessss.
16:39:32 <Morbus> though, i spelt it wrong.
16:39:37 <Morbus> should be fiftieth, right?
16:39:42 <sbp> yeah
16:39:43 <Morbus> .gc fiftieth
16:39:46 <phenny> fiftieth: 588,000
16:39:47 <sbp> .gc fiftieth-nature
16:39:50 <phenny> fiftieth-nature: 2
16:39:53 <Morbus> huh.
16:39:56 <Morbus> .g fiftieth-nature
16:39:58 <phenny> fiftieth-nature: http://www.i-holidaygifts.com/7/anniversary-fifth-gift-twenty.html
16:40:05 <sbp> ... fifth, tenth, fifteenth, twentieth, twenty-fifth and fiftieth ... nature
16:40:06 <sbp> of early anniversary gift giving, saying "the paper ... ...
16:40:09 <sbp> incidental result
16:49:02 <kandinsk1> .w rusk
16:49:03 <phenny> rusk 1. slice of sweet raised bread baked again until it is brown and hard and crisp
16:49:31 <kandinsk1> .w generation
16:49:33 <phenny> generation 1. all the people living at the same time or of approximately the same age
16:49:34 <phenny> generation 2. group of genetically related organisms constituting a single step in the line of descent
16:49:38 <phenny> generation 3. the normal time between successive generations [...]
16:49:56 <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all. If you are seeing any cases of users who appear to be on the network, but who you cannot /whois or message, please let us know. Thanks.
16:50:08 <sbp> heh at lilo
16:50:18 <sbp> (we had a couple of those already)
16:50:26 <sbp> thought they would've fixed it by now
16:50:57 <verbosus> I got a notification via Growl
16:51:02 <verbosus> but I didn't get the message
16:51:18 <verbosus> hi all… ?
16:58:19 <kandinsk1> .syn generation
16:58:25 <kandinsk1> .t generation
16:58:28 <phenny> Sorry, I don't know about time zone GENERATION.
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17:18:44 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus good
17:18:48 <phenny> good synonyms: acceptable, ace, admirable, agreeable, bad, bully, capital, choice, commendable, congenial, crack, deluxe, excellent, exceptional, favorable, first-class, first-rate, gnarly, gratifying, great,
17:18:51 <phenny> good synonyms: honorable, marvelous, neato, nice, pleasing, positive, precious, prime, rad, recherché, reputable, satisfactory, satisfying, select, shipshape, sound, spanking, splendid, sterling, stupendous, super,
17:19:40 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus lousy
17:19:43 <phenny> lousy synonyms: awful, base, contemptible, despicable, dirty, disliked, execrable, faulty, harmful, hateful, horrible, inferior, low, mean, miserable, no good, outrageous, poor, rotten, second-rate, shoddy, slovenly,
17:19:47 <phenny> lousy synonyms: terrible, unpopular, unwelcome, vicious, vile
17:20:11 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus my kinda
17:20:27 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus these
17:20:30 <phenny> these synonyms: any more, at once, away, directly, double time, first off, forthwith, immediately, instanter, instantly, just now, like now, momentarily, nowadays, PDQ, promptly, pronto, right away, right now, soon,
17:20:34 <phenny> these synonyms: straightaway, these days, this day, today
17:20:57 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus two
17:21:00 <phenny> two synonyms: $.25, 25 cents, petty sum, quarter, twenty-five cents
17:21:05 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus three
17:21:08 <phenny> three synonyms: potato sack race, sack race
17:21:12 <kandinsk1> thesaurus four
17:21:14 <Monty> I can't find any alternative words for four
17:21:17 <kandinsk1> thesaurus five
17:21:17 <Monty> I can't find any alternative words for five
17:21:22 <kandinsk1> thesaurus six
17:21:22 <Monty> I can't find any alternative words for six
17:21:25 <kandinsk1> bah
17:21:27 <kandinsk1> thesaurus ten
17:21:28 <Monty> I can't find any alternative words for ten
17:21:33 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus ten
17:21:36 <phenny> ten synonyms: Decalogue, Law of Moses, Mosaic Law, ten injunctions
17:21:38 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus four
17:21:41 <phenny> four synonyms: bad word, curse, cuss, cuss word, dirty word, expletive, naughty word, oath, obscenity, profane oath, profanity, swear, swearword, vulgarity
17:21:42 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus five
17:21:45 <phenny> five synonyms: bristles, bristly stubble, peach fuzz, stubble, whiskers
17:21:58 <kandinsk1> hehe, five hit the jackpot
17:22:13 <kandinsk1> how these are syonymical with "five" just beats me
17:23:11 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus six
17:23:15 <phenny> six synonyms: deep-sixed, done for, eighty-sixed, gone to Davy Jones's locker, in the grave, on ice, pushing up daisies
17:23:21 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus seven
17:23:25 <phenny> seven synonyms: Antarctic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, Indian Ocean, North Atlantic Ocean, North Pacific Ocean, South Atlantic Ocean, South Pacific Ocean
17:23:53 <kandinsk1> "seven" also gives seven "synonyms"
17:24:21 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus eight
17:24:24 <phenny> eight synonyms: in a pickle, in a tight spot, in Dutch, in hot water, on the hot seat, on the spot, out on a limb, up the creek
17:24:34 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus nine
17:24:37 <phenny> nine synonyms: annus mirabilis, fifteen minutes of fame, flash in the pan, nine-day wonder, phenom, phenomenon, sensation, stunner, wonderment
17:24:56 <kandinsk1> did eight and nine also hit the jackpot?
17:29:40 <kandinsk1> .thesaurus eight
17:29:43 <phenny> eight synonyms: in a pickle, in a tight spot, in Dutch, in hot water, on the hot seat, on the spot, out on a limb, up the creek
17:31:06 <JibberJim> 99-5
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17:35:13 <sbp> yep, got one off the last ball
17:37:29 <danja> history question -
17:37:44 <sbp> Louis Pasteur
17:37:52 <danja> 10 pts
17:37:56 <sbp> whoo
17:37:58 <Morbus> HELOO DNAJA.
17:38:00 <Morbus> HEH, HEH.
17:38:05 <sbp> heh, heh
17:38:07 <danja> HEH, HEH
17:38:12 <sbp> heh, heh
17:38:38 <danja> what was the first HTTP server to be packaged up for desktop (maybe offline) use?
17:38:50 <Morbus> hmmm.
17:38:59 <danja> I can only remember back to that PWS thing in Win95
17:39:05 <danja> sad I know
17:39:06 <Morbus> there was one for the mac.
17:39:10 <Morbus> earlier than that, i think.
17:39:17 <Morbus> * Morbus roots around.
17:39:18 <sbp> there are four servers on http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/
17:39:37 <Morbus> thouse aren't really desktop use.
17:39:39 <Morbus> those are vms frames.
17:39:40 <sbp> presumably timbl's own
17:39:43 <sbp> well yeah
17:39:49 <sbp> so really you mean first Windows server?
17:40:03 <Morbus> yeah, i guess it depends on what he means by desktop.
17:40:08 <sbp> or Mac
17:40:15 <Morbus> well, that's what i'm looking into now
17:40:22 <Morbus> i think there was one that started with a t. or a q.
17:40:27 <danja> timbl's own kind of thing,
17:40:41 <Morbus> danja: there was one called MacHTTP
17:40:41 <sbp> * sbp checks Usenet
17:40:46 <danja> but actually designed with that in mind
17:40:53 <Morbus> http://www.machttp.org/
17:41:06 <danja> * danja yaaagh - got to go next door to eat
17:41:11 <Morbus> i doubt that site will have a history though.
17:41:11 <danja> forgot about that
17:41:23 <Morbus> the other one was quintus or quimbus or something.
17:41:27 <Morbus> quid pro quo, maybe?
17:41:41 <Morbus> yeah.
17:41:47 <Morbus> qpq was 96, i think.
17:41:51 <Morbus> http://www.themacobserver.com/previews/qpq2b1.shtml
17:41:54 <Morbus> v2 came out in 97
17:42:22 <Morbus> danja: http://macintosh.luddite.ca/
17:42:28 <sbp> wonder what the NCSA HTTP server ran on?
17:43:12 <Morbus> danja: hm. a *review* of the first qpq was 97: http://www.themacobserver.com/reviews/quidproquo1.shtml
17:43:23 <Morbus> hhrm. it was formally known as "web center"
17:43:33 <sbp> NCSA HTTPd was around since like 1993
17:44:43 <Morbus> danja's not even listening anymore.
17:44:46 <Morbus> he's over in another building.
17:46:03 <sbp> heh, heh
17:46:11 <sbp> if he's gone three hours, we'll know what he's doing
17:46:18 <Morbus> heh, heh
17:46:29 <Morbus> hrm. is OS/2 a desktop?
17:46:40 <Morbus> there was one in march 05, at least, for os/2
17:46:49 <Morbus> http://w3.ag.uiuc.edu/DLM/HTTPDforOS2.html
17:46:57 <Morbus> OS2HTTPD v1.04 -- Frankie Fan has ported the NCSA HTTPD v1.3 to OS/2.
17:47:01 <Morbus> Note: On 25 February, 1995, Frankie released v1.04,
17:47:01 <sbp> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.announce/msg/5c7ba1c94f55df09?hl=en&
17:47:09 <sbp> HTTP Server for Windows NT
17:47:12 <sbp> Mar 28 1994, 11:10 am
17:47:44 <Morbus> "Much faster than the SERWEB server ported from Windows 3.1.
17:47:44 <Morbus> "
17:47:47 <Morbus> that's probably earlier then.
17:47:49 <sbp> OS/2 is desktop, yeah
17:48:03 <Morbus> http://www.unimelb.edu.au/public/www-faq/swin.htm
17:48:16 <sbp> people still use OS/2
17:48:23 <jsled> Heh.
17:48:29 <jsled> OS/2 ruled.
17:48:43 <sbp> object oriented desktop
17:48:54 <Morbus> DownLoad the Finest Programs!
17:48:55 <Morbus> SerWeb logo, serweb03.zip, 0.3, 56 kB 11-17-93, Very-very simple WWW server for
17:48:55 <Morbus> MS Win 3.1x. HTTPD logo, whd14c.zip, 1.4C, 667 kB ...
17:48:58 <Morbus> nov. 93 there.
17:49:06 <sbp> ooh, you antedating little swine you
17:49:14 <Morbus> http://alag3.mfa.kfki.hu/ftp/
17:49:48 <sbp> [[[
17:49:57 <sbp> Sep 8 1993, 4:32 pm
17:50:00 <sbp> If anybody's interested, I've knocked up a little http server for Windows 3.1
17:50:11 <sbp> ]]] - Simon E Spero, http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www/msg/d2e8162c9883ba07?hl=en&
17:50:19 <Morbus> nice, nice.
17:50:41 <Morbus> dammit.
17:50:47 <Morbus> google returns my part 6 of an os x article for "mac os 6 web server"
17:50:53 <Morbus> THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
17:50:59 <sbp> hehe
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17:51:08 <Morbus> actually, it was called "system 6" back then, not os 6.
17:54:20 <Morbus> http://aurejac.dyndns.org/
17:54:46 <jsled> RRRRR <- The Internet
17:55:01 <Morbus> DAMN!
17:55:04 <Morbus> http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/html/w3AAAa10048
17:55:07 <Morbus> sep 28, 1993.
17:55:08 <Morbus> so close, sbp.
17:55:14 <Morbus> yesss!
17:55:15 <Morbus> [[[
17:55:15 <Morbus> 3 Jun 1993
17:55:15 <sbp> muauaha. twenty days
17:55:16 <Morbus> A new version of MacHTTP
17:55:16 <Morbus> ]]]
17:55:19 <sbp> AW
17:55:20 <Morbus> 0wned.
17:55:52 <Morbus> if danny doesn't use this information, we should kill him.
17:55:58 <sbp> [[[
17:55:58 <sbp> A preliminary version of MacHTTP, a HTTP (WWW) server for Macintosh
17:55:58 <sbp> computers, is available for anonymous FTP.
17:56:06 <sbp> ]]] - Chuck Shotton May 25 1993, 9:41 pm
17:56:12 <sbp> - http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www/msg/4634e4e7817d7b7c?hl=en&
17:56:12 <Morbus> heh, heh. nice.
17:56:15 <Morbus> i was looking into that too.
17:56:17 <sbp> teamwork!
17:56:20 <Morbus> cos that verson in june was d5
17:56:28 <Morbus> oh, that's d3.
17:56:31 <Morbus> there must be more.
17:57:04 <sbp> I think that was his first Usenet release
17:57:08 <sbp> unless he changed the name of it
17:57:24 <Morbus> yeah, i'm not pulling up anything for d43,2,1
17:57:31 <Morbus> er, 2,1.
17:58:17 <Morbus> and he better credit us too.
17:58:19 <Morbus> fucker.
17:58:26 <Morbus> i can just see it.
17:58:31 <Morbus> whispered in the halls...
17:58:38 <Morbus> "dude, go to swhack. come back in two hours. Homework. Finished!"
18:00:23 <Morbus> * Morbus goes back to work.
18:02:07 <sbp> hehe
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18:03:07 <sbp> jcowan!
18:03:24 <jcowan> Ittywhonk, sbp!
18:03:39 <Morbus> * Morbus waves to jcowan.
18:03:47 <jcowan> crschmidt, you there?
18:03:49 <Morbus> * Morbus checks ghyll.
18:03:52 <Morbus> you still haven't fixed it.
18:03:53 <Morbus> * Morbus clucks.
18:04:41 <jcowan> Baah.
18:05:02 <Morbus> stomped, bitch.
18:05:03 <jcowan> * jcowan will have to wedge in yet another gratuitous reference to some existing phanotm.
18:05:55 <Morbus> jcowan: a trundle card a trundle cart
18:05:57 <Morbus> instead of spade/spade
18:06:09 <Morbus> well, though...
18:06:12 <Morbus> oh, nevermind.
18:06:14 <Morbus> i'm working on naps.
18:06:16 <Morbus> its coming out crappy.
18:06:17 <Morbus> yay.
18:08:09 <Morbus> the only links i have in mine are to you, jcowan, actually.
18:08:19 <Morbus> i haven't yet figured out my phantoms.
18:08:39 <jcowan> * jcowan reads Diri from Deuti
18:09:24 <jcowan> Another #15 gone west, eh sbp?
18:09:54 <jcowan> "met their deaths by an act of the King's enemies" is good.
18:10:39 <jcowan> Interesting to note that "guerrillas" is not yet part of English.
18:11:55 <Morbus> techncially, that's the wrong pluraization.
18:12:12 <Morbus> guerrilleros is the right one.
18:12:16 <Morbus> which I corrected for my ripoff: http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
18:12:28 <crschmidt> jcowan: I am now.
18:13:55 <jcowan> * ESE meets and takes the next step in its sinister plans for world domination.
18:14:43 <sbp> jcowan: #15?
18:14:58 <jcowan> 15 GBP.
18:15:03 <Morbus> * Morbus phantoms Pajamas.
18:15:07 <sbp> oh. actually not!
18:15:17 <sbp> I was rather disappointed: it seems that the thing I was searching for was already sold
18:15:43 <sbp> after having rung around about literally ten to fifteen other bookshops, I've not been able to find it
18:16:06 <sbp> a few said they'll search and ring back
18:16:12 <sbp> one had even had it a while ago
18:16:27 <sbp> so that post is on hold for a while. gah
18:16:33 <Morbus> hrmmm.
18:16:39 <Morbus> would ghyllians refer to themselves as bugs?
18:16:46 <Morbus> as a slangish term.
18:16:56 <jcowan> m-w.com defines guerrilla, in English mind you, as "a person who engages in irregular warfare especially as a member of an independent unit carrying out harassment and sabotage"
18:16:56 <Morbus> like, ya hairy ape, for us.
18:17:03 <jcowan> Sure, why not?
18:17:17 <Morbus> jcowan: i'm using "bug tipping" as equivalent to "cow tipping".
18:17:38 <jcowan> After all, in English "macho" is both noun and adjective with a definite meaning, despite the fact that in Spanish "macho" is simply the adjective meaning "male", a