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00:11:19 <uxia> guys
00:11:37 <uxia> can u help me check for where i can send unlimited sms ?
00:11:41 <uxia> free
00:11:42 <uxia> ?
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00:12:21 <bjoern_> .g free sms
00:12:24 <phenny> free sms: http://www.sms.ac/
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00:24:45 <KragenSitaker> .swhack compare
00:24:50 <phenny> KragenSitaker: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-24#T05-32-14
00:25:18 <KragenSitaker> .compare kragen.sitaker kragen.sittler kragen kragensitaker kragensittler xentrac
00:25:20 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, can only compare up to five terms or phrases.
00:25:35 <KragenSitaker> .compare kragen.sitaker kragen.sittler kragen kragensitaker xentrac
00:25:41 <phenny> kragen (6,480,000), kragen.sitaker (76,800), kragensitaker (584), kragen.sittler (499), xentrac (177)
00:26:17 <bjoern_> @translate german to english Kragen
00:26:18 <supybot> bjoern_: Collar
00:26:30 <KragenSitaker> .compare kragen.sitaker pamela.anderson walter.murch marilyn.sitaker
00:26:34 <phenny> pamela.anderson (26,600,000), walter.murch (274,000), kragen.sitaker (76,800), marilyn.sitaker (111)
00:27:38 <KragenSitaker> .compare seth.schoen cory.doctorow mako.hill
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00:27:44 <phenny> cory.doctorow (3,780,000), mako.hill (109,000), seth.schoen (61,500)
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00:28:19 <KragenSitaker> .compare matt.haughey lane.becker jeff.veen jesse.james.garrett jesse.andrews
00:28:23 <phenny> jesse.james.garrett (391,000), matt.haughey (264,000), jeff.veen (157,000), lane.becker (27,100), jesse.andrews (24,300)
00:29:11 <KragenSitaker> .compare rob.malda berners.lee britney.spears
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00:29:15 <phenny> britney.spears (51,800,000), berners.lee (21,500,000), rob.malda (66,400)
00:29:49 <KragenSitaker> well it's good to see that timbl is roughly equal to pamela anderson in web hits
00:30:31 <KragenSitaker> .compare jennicam richard.stallman jenna.jameson larry.lessig bettina.lessig
00:30:36 <phenny> jenna.jameson (12,800,000), richard.stallman (7,620,000), larry.lessig (2,360,000), jennicam (169,000), bettina.lessig (2)
00:30:37 <bjoern_> .gc "Pamela Anderson"
00:30:39 <phenny> "Pamela Anderson": 26,600,000
00:30:56 <bjoern_> I get wildly different results...
00:31:42 <KragenSitaker> .gc kragen.auto
00:31:45 <phenny> kragen.auto: 207,000
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00:45:20 <jsled> God damnit, people. If you need to disambiguate the phrase you're using in the lead-in sentence to your article, then made you should just use a different fucking phrase. http://techsearch.cmp.com/blog/archives/2006/03/get_ready_to_do.html?loc=security_and_privacy
00:47:39 <jsled> This isn't that bad, because the rest of the article is pretty bad. But I heard the same thing in an NPR news piece this morning.
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01:22:47 <BigJibby> Monty, add 2 and 2
01:22:52 <Monty> dumps's Iraqi Ian Hislop regularly sucks decisions's Michael Portillo's prison ;)
01:24:29 <BigJibby> .w dump
01:24:34 <phenny> dump 1. a coarse term for defecation
01:24:35 <phenny> dump 2. a piece of land where waste materials are dumped
01:24:39 <phenny> dump 3. (computer science) a copy of the contents of a computer storage device [...]
01:24:45 <bjoern_> .swhack twe
01:24:48 <phenny> bjoern_: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-24#T03-02-33
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01:26:45 <bjoern_> jcowan killed twe
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01:30:50 <BigJibby> .swhack twe has left
01:31:20 <bjoern_> .swhack STFU, twe
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01:31:43 <bjoern_> well, http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-22#T18-11-43
01:31:46 <BigJibby> phenny!
01:31:48 <phenny> BigJibby!
01:32:08 <bjoern_> bjoern_!
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01:33:04 <phenny> BigJibby: No results for "twe has left".
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01:33:40 <phenny> bjoern_: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-22#T18-11-43
01:34:18 <bjoern_> phenny is trapped in some time expansion thingy
01:34:24 <bjoern_> or we in a time compression thingy
01:34:46 <bjoern_> Perhaps Monty is really a black hole.
01:34:47 <Monty> s/4ed/3ed
01:34:49 <jetscreamer> somebody is doing the time warp again
01:35:13 * BigJibby aproaches the speed of light
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01:38:28 <bjoern_> we need a Subspace IRC RFC.
01:39:26 <Arnia> We need an RFC for TCP/IP in negative time and extreme time dilation situations
01:39:41 <bjoern_> IPv6 can't do that?
01:40:20 <Arnia> Cope with packets coming in backwards?
01:40:30 <bjoern_> TCP can do that already
01:40:37 <Arnia> I mean entirely reversed
01:40:48 <bjoern_> yeah, well, so what's the problem?
01:40:53 <Arnia> Plus you need to account for causality issues
01:40:57 <bjoern_> just wait a bit for the first packet.
01:41:15 <bjoern_> and Heisenpackets.
01:41:15 <Arnia> No, each packet would be backwards
01:41:21 <Arnia> What about an RFC for cross-multiverse communication?
01:41:27 <Arnia> (assuming many-worlds)
01:41:30 <bjoern_> with a TCP footer?
01:42:02 <Arnia> Yes
01:42:20 <bjoern_> Use PI/PCT
01:42:21 <sbp> boing
01:42:27 <bjoern_> da boing!
01:43:09 <bjoern_> Good Morning, I guess...
01:43:21 * Arnia ruffles sbp's hair as if he were a badger
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01:46:11 <bjoern_> BigJibby, I thought you'd arrive in the past?
01:46:40 <BigJibby> this is the past, relative to you
01:46:54 <Arnia> Ahem... may I bounce like an excited schoolgirl again?
01:47:09 <BigJibby> Sat Mar 25 20:46:40 UTC 2006
01:47:22 <BigJibby> bah, stupid UTC
01:47:34 <bjoern_> .t -210240
01:47:36 <phenny> Wed, 31 Mar 1982 01:45:01 -210240
01:48:03 <jetscreamer> yes bounce please
01:48:09 <BigJibby> eel: randBigJibby()
01:48:10 <eel> "Godiva was a lady who through Coventry did ride -- BigJibby
01:48:11 <eel> To show to all the villagers her lovely bare white ..." -- BigJibby
01:48:38 * Arnia bounces
01:48:48 <Arnia> eel: randArnia()
01:48:49 <eel> # problem: Failed: Undefined variable: randArnia
01:48:51 <Arnia> Bah
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01:49:12 <Arnia> Sorry, so many cool things being worked on with regard Compiz
01:49:14 <bjoern_> Monty, box
01:49:14 * Monty opens the box to find: I can't connect to the Warehouse at the moment.
01:49:15 <bjoern_> :(
01:49:55 <Arnia> For a Novell release which came after feature freeze I find it amusing that most development is happening on Ubuntu
01:50:40 <sbp> thanks guys
01:50:43 <sbp> it is SO morning
01:51:08 <bjoern_> SOnntag?
01:51:20 <Arnia> It is morning... sort of
01:51:30 * Arnia shuffles the days of the week
01:51:43 <jetscreamer> it's the morning of the evening of my night
01:51:56 <jetscreamer> (aka 7.50pm)
01:52:03 <BigJibby> frionday!
01:52:08 <sbp> yay, lots more jcowanblog
01:52:09 <bjoern_> what is 7.51pm known as?
01:52:14 <jetscreamer> there are no weekends
01:52:17 <jetscreamer> 19.51
01:53:12 <Arnia> It is the whiching hour! This is the time of day everyone rights consumer reviews of common or garden household products
01:53:32 <bjoern_> are you sure about that?
01:53:37 <jetscreamer> which
01:54:10 <sbp> the errata one is great. http://recycledknowledge.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-favorite-errata-page.html
01:54:18 <sbp> Arnia: ahahahaha. Whiching Hour
01:55:04 <jetscreamer> to write is a right
01:55:33 * Arnia must be tired
01:56:02 * jetscreamer must have a headache from his glasses... yep, a doozy, too.
01:56:42 <jetscreamer> i got a new prescription but no new specs yet :( they didn't have what i wanted that i saw in their catalog
01:57:18 <Arnia> :/
01:57:27 * Arnia kicks universe
01:57:30 <Arnia> reboot damn you
01:57:38 <jetscreamer> the bad part is that they couldn't get it if they tried
01:57:48 <jetscreamer> not made anymore
01:58:06 <sbp> XOM - Java = interesting
01:58:27 * BigJibby believes in multiple universii
01:59:20 <Arnia> It is worrying how many people want open-source software when it comes in a shiny compiz box
01:59:39 <Arnia> "Oh I agree with open-source, it just wasn't shiny enough until now"
02:00:06 <jetscreamer> why worrying
02:00:15 <Arnia> I still haven't decided if Compiz is a nett productivity gain or loss
02:00:30 <jetscreamer> ahh i hear my aspirin
02:00:32 <bjoern_> .w nett
02:00:35 <phenny> nett 1. catch with a net
02:00:38 <phenny> nett 2. remaining after all deductions
02:00:49 <bjoern_> .w net
02:00:52 <phenny> net 1. a computer network consisting of a worldwide network of computer networks that use the TCP/IP network protocols to facilitate data transmission and exchange
02:00:55 <phenny> net 2. a trap made of netting to catch fish or birds or insects
02:00:59 <phenny> net 3. the excess of revenues over outlays in a given period of time (including depreciation and other non-cash expenses) [...]
02:01:23 <Arnia> I am faster at what I'm doing because it behaves more like a real thing, so I don't need to think about the metaphor. However I keep making my windows fly all over the place just cos it looks cool which is a loss of productivity
02:02:09 <bjoern_> @translate german to english netto
02:02:14 <supybot> bjoern_: net
02:02:17 <Arnia> I know of netto
02:02:26 <Arnia> Interesting...
02:02:47 * Arnia badgers someone who understands how to write compiz plugins to make his workspace a sphere
02:02:47 <bjoern_> @translate german to english nett
02:02:49 <supybot> bjoern_: nicely
02:04:45 <BigJibby> like, throwing animals at people?
02:05:19 <bjoern_> I don't think that's very nice.
02:05:27 <bjoern_> though it might depend on the animal.
02:05:28 * Arnia throws a macaque at BigJibby
02:06:22 * jetscreamer tosses an ostrich from hand to hand, trying to decide on a target...
02:06:26 <sbp> aw: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4835208.stm
02:06:32 <sbp> (less birdies)
02:07:29 <sbp> (or fewer, if you're into that sort of thing)
02:09:11 * BigJibby throws Arnia to Teh Monkey http://drunkenmonkey.org/
02:11:15 <sbp> ooh: "The first UK conference on Big Cats taking place in Market Harborough, Leicestershire, this weekend will give enthusiasts the chance to share footage and theories."
02:11:19 <sbp> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4833450.stm
02:11:51 <Arnia> I know some people from Market Harborough
02:11:54 <Arnia> May prod them
02:12:34 <sbp> they could get Swhack coverage for us
02:12:41 <sbp> take minidisc recorders
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02:13:24 <Arnia> The Swhack Revolution!
02:13:27 * Arnia dances
02:13:43 <BigJibby> so, do the birds in Britain have accents too?
02:14:27 <Arnia> Only in Creature Comforts
02:16:14 <sbp> yeah
02:17:17 <BigJibby> Creature Comforts?
02:17:24 <jsled> Oh, that reminds me. Why did my tivo stop taping Creature Comforts?
02:17:30 <sbp> .g site:en.wikipedia.org Creature Comforts
02:17:33 <phenny> site:en.wikipedia.org Creature Comforts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creature_Comforts
02:17:35 <sbp> jsled: because it sucks ass
02:17:55 <jsled> Oh, we enjoy it.
02:17:58 <jsled> :p
02:18:09 <sbp> no, because the TIVO sucks ass!
02:18:21 <jsled> Oh. So it does.
02:18:28 <jsled> SO> IT> DOES>
02:18:29 <sbp> clearly Creature Comforts is genius
02:18:36 <sbp> therefore anything that misses it must suck ass
02:19:24 <BigJibby> I suck ass :'(
02:19:30 * Arnia does the Creature Comforts dance
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02:27:26 <BigJibby> Monty, can you do the dance?
02:27:29 <Monty> @translate german to share footage and exchange
02:27:31 <supybot> Monty: Error: "'share'" is not a valid language. Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
02:27:33 <Monty> nett 2. remaining after all deductions
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02:57:50 <BigJibby> eel: def randSwhack() :any { print(<http://mattread.com/randSwhacker.php>.getText().trim()) }
02:57:51 <eel> # value: <randSwhack>
02:58:02 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
02:58:04 <eel> 19:14:58 oops. in public? -- BigJibby
02:58:37 <bjoern_> too try I!!
02:58:39 <bjoern_> eel: randSwhack()
02:58:39 <eel> 20:41:19 azaria is the bomb -- BigJibby
02:58:47 <bjoern_> da bomb!
02:59:01 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
02:59:02 <eel> 06:12:29 <sbp> * sbp doesn't dare ask what the s is for -- BigJibby
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02:59:49 <BigJibby> eel: def randSwhack() :any { return <http://mattread.com/randSwhacker.php>.getText().trim() }
02:59:49 <eel> # value: <randSwhack>
02:59:53 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
02:59:54 <eel> # value: "06:22:28 <jcowan> (I'm neglecting intentional torts, here, which are really a different ball of wax.)"
03:00:06 <bsh> eel: randSwhack()
03:00:09 <eel> # value: "03:58:15 <redmonk> redmonk has quit ()"
03:00:14 <bsh> ...
03:00:16 <kpreid> BigJibby: neat!
03:00:31 <bsh> eel: randSwhack()
03:00:33 <eel> # value: "12:32:35 <kandinski> but just a thought"
03:00:55 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
03:00:56 <eel> # value: "2004-02-01 19:22:17 <Ash> heh heh"
03:01:02 <bsh> heh heh
03:01:10 <kpreid> blablablablammo
03:01:47 <BigJibby> eel++
03:05:20 <nsh> eel: randSwhack()
03:05:21 <eel> # value: "2004-03-25 05:52:19 <d8uv> STOP THE OP"
03:05:40 <sbp> ooh, cool
03:05:44 <sbp> another cool thing:
03:05:49 <sbp> phenny: "Je voudrais une biÈre, s'il vous plaît"?
03:05:55 <phenny> sbp: "I would like a beer, please" (fr)
03:06:48 <Arnia> ...
03:07:08 <bsh> phenny: "Bier her, Bier her, oder ich fall um, juchhe!"
03:07:30 <bsh> not so cool.
03:07:53 <sbp> yeah, not sure what failed
03:07:59 <sbp> oh, you need the question mark
03:08:04 <sbp> phenny: "Comía un limón pequeño una vez que llamé "Peter". No sé porqué lo llamé eso."?
03:08:05 <bsh> phenny: "Bier her, Bier her, oder ich fall um, juchhe!"?
03:08:09 <phenny> bsh: "Beer ago, beer ago, or I case over, juchhe!" (de)
03:08:11 <phenny> sbp: "It ate a small lemon once I called "Peter". I do not know porqué I
03:08:18 <sbp> hehe
03:08:31 <bsh> cool!
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03:09:25 <sbp> .reload translate
03:09:28 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.translate' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/translate.py'> (version: 2006-03-25 03:06:45)
03:09:30 <sbp> phenny: "Comía un limón pequeño una vez que llamé "Peter". No sé porqué lo llamé eso."?
03:09:34 <phenny> sbp: "It ate a small lemon once I called "Peter". I do not know porqué Icalled that." (es)
03:10:19 <BeHappy_> wow!
03:10:29 <sbp> source: http://inamidst.com/phenny/modules/translate.py
03:10:41 <sbp> BeHappy_: could you possibly run through some Italian, please?
03:10:59 <bsh> phenny: "Le lyon ieune le vieux surmontera, En champ bellique par singulier duelle: Dans cage d'or les yeux luy creuera, Deux classes vne, puis mourir, mort cruelle."?
03:10:59 <sbp> basically I chained up a Language Guesser with Babelfish
03:11:03 <phenny> bsh: "Lyon ieune the old man will surmount, In field bellic by singularduelle: In gold cage the eyes luy will creuera, Two classes vne, thento die, cruel death." (fr)
03:11:16 <BeHappy_> ok, lets see what i can do
03:11:21 <sbp> hence the very poor quality of the translations :-)
03:11:32 <bsh> google trans better/worse?
03:11:47 <sbp> dunno, let's see...
03:12:08 <sbp> exactly the same. I think they use the same code
03:12:20 <BeHappy_> uhm.. sbp what i can do?
03:12:28 <bsh> .gc booblefish
03:12:31 <phenny> booblefish: 31
03:12:39 <sbp> BeHappy_: say something along the lines of: phenny: "italian phrase"?
03:12:45 <sbp> and see how well she does in the translation
03:12:59 <BeHappy_> ok
03:13:02 <BigJibby> phenny, "Vous êtes aussi utile qu'un frein à main sur un canoe"?
03:13:10 <sbp> the phrase has to be between 20 and 200 characters, currently
03:13:23 <sbp> BigJibby: has to be a colon, sorry
03:13:30 <BeHappy_> phenny: "c'era una volta tanto tempo fa qualcosa che assomigliava a una casa"
03:13:35 <BigJibby> phenny: "Vous êtes aussi utile qu'un frein à main sur un canoe"?
03:13:38 <Arnia> Ok, back in a minute
03:13:39 <phenny> KeyError: 'rumantsch' (file "/home/sbp/phenny/modules/translate.py", line 20, in language)
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03:13:43 <sbp> BeHappy_: needs trailing question mark
03:13:49 <sbp> rumantsch? awesome
03:13:49 <BeHappy_> k
03:13:55 <BeHappy_> phenny: "c'era una volta tanto tempo fa qualcosa che assomigliava a una casa"?
03:13:59 <phenny> BeHappy_: "there was once much time makes something that it resembled one house" (it)
03:14:19 <sbp> how was that?
03:14:20 <BeHappy_> well.. it's on the average of web translator :)
03:14:23 <sbp> hehe
03:14:30 <sbp> at least it got the language right
03:14:40 <sbp> "Vous êtes aussi utile qu'un frein à main sur un canoe"? seemed to suck. it's French, right?
03:14:48 <sbp> I could just map rumantsch to fr for a bit
03:14:52 <BeHappy_> italian is somewhat difficult even for "we"
03:14:52 <BigJibby> yeah
03:15:03 <sbp> we?
03:15:08 <BeHappy_> we italians
03:15:12 <sbp> ahh. hehe
03:15:22 <sbp> .reload translate
03:15:25 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.translate' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/translate.py'> (version: 2006-03-25 03:12:45)
03:15:26 <bsh> hmm
03:15:30 <sbp> phenny: "Vous êtes aussi utile qu'un frein à main sur un canoe"?
03:15:35 <phenny> sbp: "You are as useful as a hand brake on a canoe" (fr)
03:15:37 <bsh> I wonder what garbage my client is going to make out of this:
03:15:40 <bsh> phenny: "u¡úÌ CSS2 ÌdlÌöJÍA 1NÈãÉí½éìÆÌ¬ÊÅ èA"?
03:15:43 <phenny> KeyError: 'japanese-shift_jis' (file "/home/sbp/phenny/modules/translate.py", line 21, in language)
03:16:05 <BigJibby> phenny!
03:16:07 <phenny> BigJibby!
03:16:18 <sbp> ooh, interesting. actually there is a Japanese translation thing in both so...
03:16:24 * sbp spanners about with the code again
03:16:29 <BeHappy_> eheheh
03:18:33 <sbp> .eval "u¡úÌ CSS2 ÌdlÌöJÍA 1NÈãÉí½éìÆÌ¬ÊÅ èA".decode('shift-jis')
03:18:36 <phenny> u'\u300c\u4eca\u65e5\u306e CSS2 \u306e\u4ed5\u69d8\u306e\u516c\u958b\u306f\u3001
03:18:40 <phenny> 1\u5e74\u4ee5\u4e0a\u306b\u308f\u305f\u308b\u4f5c\u696d\u306e\u6210\u679c\u3067\u3042\u308a\u3001'
03:19:42 <sbp> nuts, can't get the Japanese to work
03:19:46 <sbp> phenny: "「今日の CSS2 の仕様の公開は、1年以上にわたる作業の成果であり、"?
03:19:50 <phenny> KeyError: 'unknown' (file "/home/sbp/phenny/modules/translate.py", line 22, in language)
03:20:26 <sbp> phenny: "「今日の CSS2 の仕様の公開は、1年以上にわたる作業の成果であり、"?
03:20:31 <phenny> sbp: ""Release of the specification of present CSS2 is the result of thework of spanning 1 year or more," (ja)
03:20:35 <sbp> whoo!
03:20:55 <sbp> I just mapped unknown to ja. seems like the obvious thing to do :-)
03:21:14 <BeHappy_> :)
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03:22:38 <bjoern_> phenny: "「今日の CSS2 の仕様の公開は、 1年以上にわたる作業の成果であり、"?
03:22:45 <phenny> bjoern_: ""Release of the specification of present CSS2 is the result of thework of spanning 1 year or more," (ja)
03:23:02 <bsh> @sbp++
03:23:10 <BeHappy_> @sbp++
03:23:27 <sbp> yay
03:24:12 <BigJibby> @sbo++
03:24:15 <BigJibby> @sbp++
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03:24:52 <bjoern_> phenny: "法律 - 道徳 - 国家 - 政治 - 地方自治 - 経済 - 産業 - 職業 - 交通 - 教育 - 歴史"?
03:24:54 <BigJibby> @karma sbp
03:24:55 <supybot> BigJibby: Karma for "sbp" has been increased 30 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of 23.
03:24:56 <phenny> bjoern_: "Law - morality - nation - politics - local autonomy - economy -industry - occupation - traffic - education - history" (ja)
03:26:52 <BigJibby> soh des'neh
03:26:57 <bsh> Chatzilla is a terrible client.
03:27:11 <bjoern_> I agree!
03:27:36 <sbp> you two and your agreeing
03:27:47 <sbp> who's on which?
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03:28:00 <bsh> I pity the bjoern_
03:28:04 <sbp> aha
03:28:19 <BigJibby> konversation++
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03:34:26 <BigJibby> phenny, "je suis une canard"?
03:34:48 <bsh> phenny: "je suis une canard"?
03:34:50 <BigJibby> gah, stupid colon
03:34:57 <bsh> or not
03:39:41 <sbp> .eval len("je suis une canard")
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03:39:43 <phenny> 18
03:39:48 <sbp> hmm. hang on a moment
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03:42:44 <BeHappy_> argh! i've just reached that point of programming in which i need a regexp powered text edit, yay!
03:43:42 <sbp> phenny, "je suis une canard"?
03:43:45 <phenny> sbp: Hmm... got 'bosnian'
03:44:12 <sbp> phenny, "je suis une canard"?
03:44:16 <phenny> sbp: "I am a duck" (fr)
03:45:00 <sbp> phenny: "."?
03:45:03 <phenny> sbp: Phrase must be >= 15 chars.
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03:45:57 <nsh> .ety halcyon
03:45:59 <phenny> "1545, in halcyon dayes (L. alcyonei dies, Gk. alkyonides hemerai), 14 days of calm weather at the winter solstice, when a mythical bird (identified with the kingfisher) was said to breed in a nest floating on calm seas." - http://etymonline.com/?term=halcyon
03:46:22 <sbp> heh. I got "2004-03-12 14:19:38 <deltab> oh dear." as my randSwhacker line
03:46:27 <sbp> BigJibby: how does the script work?
03:47:43 <BigJibby> sbp, it randomly chooses a log file (creates a random date), then a random line ...
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03:48:01 <bsh> "Subsequently replacement of the Attr node with a different Attr node is viewed as the removal of the first Attr node and the addition of the second."
03:48:06 <bsh> Subsequently replacement? does that make sense?
03:48:14 <sbp> BigJibby: aha, cool idea
03:48:19 <sbp> bsh: not in the least
03:48:28 <sbp> unless it means:
03:48:37 <sbp> "Subsequently, replacement of the Attr node with a different Attr node..."
03:48:45 <sbp> in which case it should have a comma
03:48:47 <bsh> yeah... but not in this context...
03:48:49 <bsh> silly spec
03:49:06 <sbp> .g "Subsequently replacement of the Attr node"
03:49:10 <phenny> "Subsequently replacement of the Attr node": http://www.w3c.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/events.html
03:49:24 <bsh> thanks goodness I edit that one.
03:49:30 <sbp> heh, heh
03:49:35 <sbp> thanks goodness indeed...
03:50:38 <bsh> .g "If the Attr node is being removed, MutationEvent.prevValue is in value."
03:50:41 <phenny> "If the Attr node is being removed, MutationEvent.prevValue is in value.": http://www.nichepal.com/cgiproxy/nph-proxy.pl/010110A/http/www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/events.html
03:50:45 <bsh> that doesn't make sense either, I guess?
03:50:59 <sbp> that's sorta crazy sounding
03:51:04 <sbp> like it's in season or something
03:51:05 <bsh> probably "... in use"
03:51:46 <est> sbp: am i in value?
03:51:54 <sbp> est: nope, you're in #swhack
03:52:18 <est> butbutbut
03:52:30 <bsh> ah well, it's just for 5 1/2 years on the rec track, no surprise no one read it yet.
03:52:45 <sbp> yeah, that's nowhere near long enough
03:52:55 <sbp> why, UAAG went through seventy-five Last Calls before someone read it
03:53:00 <est> hmm..that url doesnt work for me
03:53:22 <est> sbp: i thought i was "all about value"
03:53:24 <bsh> seventy-five? I thought the record was, what, three so far?
03:53:32 <sbp> est: yes, but are you in it?
03:53:42 <sbp> I thought it'd been through way more than three
03:53:42 <est> maybe that means im *around* value, but not in it
03:53:51 <bsh> .g "TR History PNG"
03:53:53 <phenny> "TR History PNG": http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2005Mar/
03:54:25 <sbp> you used cwm?!!?!!!
03:54:54 <jsled> .g ploticus
03:54:55 <bsh> it did the job
03:54:57 <phenny> ploticus: http://ploticus.sourceforge.net/
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03:55:39 <sbp> odd, it says UAAG only had a smiden of LC
03:55:49 <sbp> but I thought it went through many, many, many
03:55:56 <bsh> the TR RDFs aren't all that accurate...
03:56:45 <sbp> ah
03:57:25 <nsh> .ety pronounce
03:57:30 <phenny> "c.1330, 'to utter, declare officially,' from O.Fr. pronuncier (1277), from L.L. pronunciare, from L. pronuntiare 'to proclaim, announce, pronounce,' from pro- 'forth, out, in public' + nuntiare 'announce,' from nuntius 'messenger.' With ref. to the mode of sounding [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=pronounce
03:58:24 <bsh> REC <- PR <- LC <- CR <- WD <- LC <- LC <- PR <- CR <- LC
03:58:34 <bsh> before that, prev vers links to outside /TR
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03:59:16 <bsh> maybe the short periods between them obscure the png
03:59:27 <bsh> but it's likely it's just wrong in the RDFs...
03:59:44 <bsh> so the record is 4
04:00:32 <sbp> that's for UAAG?
04:00:38 <bsh> yeah
04:00:42 <sbp> cool
04:00:57 <sbp> I like the "PR <- LC <- CR" bit at the end
04:01:26 <sbp> like either they just snuck in another LC for old times' sake
04:01:28 <bsh> LC LC WD CR is nice aswell
04:01:39 <sbp> or they thought screw it, no more CR, just go straight to PR
04:01:50 <sbp> hehe, yeah
04:01:51 <bsh> likely
04:03:23 * bsh notes WCAG 2.0 is going to lc soon, wg resolved that yesterday or so
04:05:42 <sbp> WCAG 2.0 to LC? oh man
04:05:51 * sbp remembers working on it in like 2001...
04:06:52 <est> wcag?
04:07:02 <bsh> Web Content Access. Guidelines.
04:07:07 <sbp> Web Content Accessi... yeah
04:08:29 <bsh> .g wcag theme song
04:08:32 <phenny> wcag theme song: http://www.davidmacd.com/web_pages/wcag_theme.htm
04:09:41 <bsh> the only song that features sbp and me! (that I know of)
04:10:21 <sbp> woah, cool
04:10:37 <sbp> WL and Jim too
04:10:37 <bsh> news to you?
04:10:40 <sbp> yeah!
04:10:48 <sbp> when was this?
04:11:00 <bsh> .g wcag theme song site:lists.w3.org
04:11:03 <phenny> wcag theme song site:lists.w3.org: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2000JulSep/0184.html
04:11:20 <bsh> that's not it
04:11:30 <sbp> Google is so useless with lists.w3.org it hurts
04:12:28 <bsh> sep 03 it seems
04:12:42 <sbp> inneresin'
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04:13:28 <Monty> hi BigJibby, how ya doing?
04:13:30 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
04:13:33 <Monty> site:en.wikipedia.org Creature Comforts?
04:13:53 <BigJibby> hey Monty. I'm good and you?
04:13:57 <Monty> Creature Comforts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creature_Comforts
04:14:14 <BigJibby> Monty, yeah, I know
04:14:15 <Monty> creates dire ripped bones.
04:14:20 <bsh> they should publish it along with the lc as "requirements document" ...
04:15:39 <sbp> it should be a part of the CR phase: 3 implementations, 1 song
04:16:38 <bsh> yeah http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-evangelist/2004Mar/0043.html
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04:58:00 <wallrazer> 'lo
04:58:51 <Arnia> Hello, this channel is logged so don't say anything you wouldn't want your mother/spouse/evil-overlord-badger to read. More at swhack.com
05:00:53 * wallrazer harumphs
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05:10:38 <BeHappy_> mmh.. sun's coming out, so i'm gonna go to bed :) c-ya
05:10:55 <wallrazer> Arnia: that's fine :D
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05:10:55 <Monty> lo kpreid
05:11:02 <wallrazer> just being ornery
05:11:31 <uxia> bye all
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05:11:39 <wallrazer> and the [off] was pretty unnecessary too
05:11:56 <wallrazer> i'm trying on a new nick for size :-)
05:12:30 <sbp> wallrazer: how do you like it so far, masked stranger?
05:13:10 <wallrazer> i think i like it...
05:14:33 <sbp> which wall or walls are you razing?
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05:16:45 <wallrazer> sbp: http://tinyurl.com/o3fga
05:17:29 <wallrazer> http://www.wallrazer.com/tmp/wallrazer.png
05:18:08 <kpreid> argh. I thought jcowan's entries' links had gone funny in Planet Swhack, but apparently it's NetNewsWire being confused
05:18:39 <sbp> wallrazer: ah! should've guessed, d'oh
05:18:48 <wallrazer> haha
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05:19:31 <kpreid> $ rm `which wall`
05:19:49 <wallrazer> heh
05:20:04 <wallrazer> .wn raze
05:20:07 <phenny> raze 1. tear down so as to make flat with the ground
05:20:18 <wallrazer> $ rm -fr `which wall`
05:20:34 <kpreid> perhaps something involving dd and /dev/zero would be more fitting
05:21:03 <kpreid> all-zeros is flatter, right?
05:21:23 <kpreid> I mistyped /dev/zero as /sev/zeo...
05:21:28 <kpreid> .gc "sev zeo"
05:21:28 <phenny> "sev zeo": 0
05:22:00 <kpreid> also, I evidently should be asleep, because this kind of rambling means that
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05:30:03 <BigJibby> eel!
05:30:45 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:30:45 <eel> # problem: Failed: Undefined variable: randSwhack
05:32:25 <BigJibby> eel: def randSwhack() :any { return <http://mattread.com/randSwhacker.php>.getText().trim() }
05:32:25 <eel> # value: <randSwhack>
05:32:28 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:32:33 <eel> # value: "[http://swhack.com/logs/2004-01-27.txt#T]"
05:32:42 <bsh> ...
05:32:54 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:32:55 <eel> # value: "<themaximus> aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, a textured ceiling. why? [http://swhack.com/logs/2004-07-24.txt#T10-38-07]"
05:34:27 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:34:28 <eel> # value: "<Morbus> so, as a mechanic, there can only be 5 hehs and 5 blammos in play. [http://swhack.com/logs/2005-02-03#T22-05-10]"
05:35:09 <BigJibby> that's better
05:41:48 <wallrazer> blammo!
05:44:04 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:44:05 <eel> # value: "<deltab> a bit too late now :-) [http://swhack.com/logs/2005-07-17#T21-07-38]"
05:55:03 <bsh> eel: randSwhack()
05:55:03 <eel> # value: "swhack! it went blammo!"
05:55:54 <sbp> eel: randSwhack()
05:55:55 <eel> # value: "<jsled> Oh ... hmm. [http://swhack.com/logs/2004-07-09#T01-22-58]"
05:59:13 <BigJibby> eel: randSwhack()
05:59:15 <eel> # value: "<JibberJim> * JibberJim assumed it was on UKsomething as it's obviously a repeat... [http://swhack.com/logs/2004-06-11#T21-21-37]"
05:59:43 <BigJibby> stupid whitespace
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06:18:35 <Monty> welcome, bjoern_
06:19:03 <bjoern_> Hi Monty
06:19:04 <Monty> eats spiders!
06:19:18 <bjoern_> no, thanks Monty.
06:19:19 <Monty> clearly Creature Comforts
06:19:38 <bjoern_> Monty, what's wrong with you and the spiders?
06:19:40 <Monty> google trans better/worse?
06:20:05 <bjoern_> I don't think that's a genuine Monty question Monty...
06:20:06 <Monty> like it...
06:20:15 <BigJibby> .img trans
06:20:20 <bjoern_> yeah well, I too, for obvious reasons Monty, but...
06:20:22 <Monty> 06:12:29 <sbp> * sbp
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06:21:21 <phenny> trans: http://www.usscatastrophe.com/store/trans-alaska_pg01.gif
06:26:25 <BigJibby> I don't get it
06:33:17 <sbp> me neither
06:34:18 <bjoern_> hahaha
06:34:30 <sbp> utchy am suspectant of such as is idiocy
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06:40:12 <sbp> hmm, backwards grep would be awesome...
06:47:49 <BigJibby> perg
06:50:47 <est> backwards?
06:53:36 <BigJibby> like forward, but reversed
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06:57:05 <BigJibby> phenny, "je suis une canard. tabarnack!"?
06:57:20 <phenny> BigJibby: "Je suis une canard. tabarnack!" (ja)
06:58:09 <BigJibby> @translate french to english tabarnack
06:58:11 <supybot> BigJibby: tabarnack
07:00:45 <BigJibby> phenny, "Chauve à col roulé"?
07:00:49 <phenny> BigJibby: "Chauve à col roulé" (ja)
07:02:05 <BigJibby> @translate french to english Couilles
07:02:07 <supybot> BigJibby: Testicles
07:02:59 <BigJibby> @translate french to english Connasse
07:03:01 <supybot> BigJibby: Bitch
07:03:19 <BigJibby> @translate french to english cOnnardee
07:03:22 <supybot> BigJibby: ONNARDEE
07:03:35 <sbp> est: goes through Extremely Large Text Files backwards
07:03:52 <sbp> if you have like 2 GB of text to search through but you're sure what you're looking for is closer to the end
07:04:10 <sbp> actually I want something that prints out every line at the end of a file until it comes to one which doesn't contain a particular string
07:04:27 <sbp> basically for tailing a log by date
07:04:37 <sbp> so imagine a really huge log file with dated entries
07:04:59 <sbp> then I go: perg --until-no ^2006-03 logfile
07:05:03 <est> you want pergtail
07:05:08 <sbp> yeah
07:05:13 <sbp> good name
07:05:35 <sbp> tail does the right thing apart from the grep element
07:05:36 <est> even better name might be tail -e
07:05:38 <sbp> I'd like that for head too
07:05:53 <sbp> yeah
07:06:09 <sbp> a negated one would be good too
07:06:41 <est> -v
07:07:05 <sbp> already taken
07:07:11 <est> really?
07:07:17 <sbp> yeah, --verbose. so is -n
07:07:44 <est> hmm..not in my tail
07:07:54 <sbp> $ tail --version
07:07:54 <sbp> tail (GNU coreutils) 5.94
07:07:54 <sbp> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
07:08:19 <est> yeah..im an evil os x person these days
07:08:23 <sbp> ah
07:09:10 <est> how bout tail -\! <regexp>
07:09:12 <est> :)
07:09:15 <sbp> heh, heh
07:09:25 <sbp> or if the regexp starts with a bang...
07:09:35 <sbp> like in mod_rewrite syntax
07:09:42 <est> then we need a way for it to end with a..
07:09:55 <sbp> s!!!
07:10:15 <sbp> the trivial substitution. dosen't start with a bang, but sure ends with one
07:10:28 <est> i was looking for a whimper
07:10:35 <est> but i dont know what char that is
07:10:40 <sbp> srrwhimper
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07:10:55 <sbp> turns nothing into a whimpe
07:11:43 <est> would be interesting to figure how to handle multi-line matches for tail -e
07:12:40 <est> i guess you'd only be looking for matches that *started* in "the current line"
07:12:58 <sbp> started?
07:13:44 <sbp> as I understand it, tail reads a buffered amount from the end of a file, scans backwards for line endings, maintains a count. it wouldn't be too hard to grep the string between each of the indices as it goes along, I'd've thought
07:16:50 <est> might want to be able to match something longer :o
07:17:47 <sbp> then use awk, or perl :-)
07:18:01 <sbp> grep can't go across line endings, but it's got a fair bit of mileage
07:18:35 <sbp> of course, sed should be able to do head -e quite easily, but...
07:18:49 <sbp> I don't think it's possible to get it to quit at a certain point, is it?
07:22:39 <est> oh..i tend to use pcregrep :)
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12:58:54 <Gromgull> does anyone by chance have a spare non-uk gmail invite?
12:59:21 <pang> non-uk?
13:00:16 <Gromgull> yes
13:00:18 <Gromgull> i have a uk gmail
13:00:30 <Gromgull> but invites sent from that account only get @googlemail addresses
13:00:36 <Gromgull> because of some trademark dispute
13:00:49 <Gromgull> but if you have a non-uk account the people you invite still get @gmail addresses
13:00:52 <pang> heh. tell me where to send it.
13:01:03 <Gromgull> off [email address censored by sbp, 2006-03-26]
13:01:18 <pang> done.
13:01:23 <Gromgull> thanks
13:01:35 <pang> np. =)
13:03:16 <Gromgull> rats... swhack has no off for no logging, now my previously spam-free email is fucked
13:05:57 <Gromgull> oh well
13:06:00 <Gromgull> i knew - but got it wrong
13:06:21 <Gromgull> oh well - my life will be spamfree again next time I change job
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13:07:12 <Monty> hi chimezie
13:08:23 <chimezie> phenny: ask Monty to leave me alone
13:08:24 <Monty> aight
13:08:26 <phenny> chimezie: I'll pass that on when monty is around.
13:08:27 <Monty> Oh. So it not quarantine
13:08:28 <phenny> Monty: 13:05Z <chimezie> ask Monty to leave me alone
13:08:29 <Monty> also, I change job
13:08:33 <libby> heh
13:08:43 <kpreid> phenny: ask sbp to fix an [on] mistake: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-25#T13-01-03
13:08:45 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
13:09:18 <Gromgull> I see - thanks
13:10:55 <Gromgull> interestingly, gmail still only offers me a @googlemail.com address...
13:11:10 <Gromgull> oh well - i think i've spent enough time caring about this now
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15:14:12 <Monty> yo wallrazer!
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16:03:16 <kpreid> phenny: tell jcowan I think http://recycledknowledge.blogspot.com/2006/03/ralph-vs-tortoise.html could use some hyperlinks defining "de re" and "de dicto"
16:03:18 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when jcowan is around.
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16:23:49 <JibberJim> phenny, tell jcowan they are not chips if they are in wedges, they are wedges!
16:23:52 <phenny> JibberJim: I'll pass that on when jcowan is around.
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18:34:48 <BigJibby> hey Monty
18:34:53 <Monty> heh, heh heh ya heard it comes from not the TR RDFs aren't all over outlays in bureaucracy
18:35:56 <BigJibby> you're funny, Monty
18:36:00 <Monty> A thought: silly minty script sells atypical episcopalian grandmothers!
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18:55:47 <bjoern_> Monty sold his grandmother!
18:55:51 <Monty> desensitised wanking sessions admits responsibility for utilising petrol tank!!!
18:56:06 <bjoern_> good you confess Monty.
18:56:08 <Monty> oh, you update the downloaded area
18:56:17 <bjoern_> I do?
18:56:18 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
18:56:18 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 4, 1, 1, 3, 2. Your target is 212. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
18:56:45 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (3+1)*2*25 + 4
18:56:45 <Monty> bjoern_: 204
18:56:48 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
18:56:49 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 22 milliseconds. I found all 332 solutions in about 266 milliseconds.
18:56:50 <BigJibby> "2"+"1"+"2"
18:56:51 <Monty> ibot (25*2 + 3)*4
18:57:35 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
18:57:35 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 4, 1, 10, 7, 5. Your target is 153. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
18:57:50 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 100+5*10+4-1
18:57:50 <Monty> bjoern_: 153
18:58:05 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
18:58:07 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 365 solutions in about 250 milliseconds.
18:58:08 <Monty> ibot (5 - 1)*4*10 - 7
18:58:38 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
18:58:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 7, 10, 6, 9. Your target is 878. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
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18:59:07 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (10+7-6)*75
18:59:07 <Monty> bjoern_: 825
18:59:09 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
18:59:10 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 55 milliseconds. I found all 40 solutions in about 227 milliseconds.
18:59:11 <Monty> ibot (75 + 7 + 6)*10 + 7 - 9
19:01:26 <bjoern_> Monty is a dwarf.
19:01:28 <Monty> magnets is false and striped...?
19:01:47 <bjoern_> Monty: read my lips: no.
19:01:54 <Monty> but they thought it'd been an array of its literal, how did it along without desalination plants will creuera, Deux classes vne, puis mourir, mort cruelle."?
19:02:10 <bjoern_> Monty, you are not an array of literals.
19:02:12 <Monty> A thought: packages is stupid!
19:02:30 <bjoern_> Monty are an packages.
19:02:32 <Monty> sits on fixed burping IMAP :P
19:02:55 <bjoern_> Monty kills kittens.
19:02:58 <Monty> addressbook's horoscopes castrates uninstalled writer...
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19:35:18 <ows> hi
19:35:19 <ows> is there some way to know from where video.google.com is streamming videos?
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21:33:38 <Monty> hey BigJibby
21:34:06 <BigJibby> hello Mr. Monty
21:34:07 <Monty> seeks just fine here?
21:34:25 <BigJibby> Monty, I'm good too.
21:34:29 <Monty> .wn raze 1. a file, scans backwards for a fair bit too late now
21:34:29 <phenny> Monty: Words must match the regexp ^[A-Za-z0-9' -]+$
21:34:31 <Monty> Barnards Star is juicy and pubic!
21:36:15 <BigJibby> Monty, welcome to the department of pubic affairs ... I mean public, public affairs.
21:36:16 <Monty> .img trans better/worse?
21:36:20 <phenny> trans better/worse?: sorry, no results were found.
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21:39:36 <BigJibby> Monty, google me
21:39:37 <Monty> [me] no results found.
21:40:18 <BigJibby> Monty, google intelligence
21:40:19 <Monty> [intelligence] no results found.
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22:04:00 <bancus> huhcorp.com
22:11:50 <Ash> buhcorp
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22:29:07 <Monty> hi yoz, how ya doing?
22:29:10 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
22:29:13 <Monty> twatmaster's quickest crusty sheets consumes tractors's Zelda shapes?!
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22:59:48 <bjoern_> .gc twemaster
22:59:51 <phenny> twemaster: 5
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23:15:50 <uxia> hi
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23:29:19 <Monty> howdy, Arnia
23:29:37 <Arnia> Hey Montybonty
23:29:42 <Monty> unacceptable flaxen bank account attacks priceless scissors and jabberclacking lots of ballpoint-pens ;)
23:30:05 <Arnia> I haven't seen jabberclacking for a while
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