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01:50:38 <Monty> bah, it's schepers again
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01:59:35 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's schepers!
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05:03:45 <BigJibby> Monty, you are my slave
05:03:49 <Monty> luggage's mystifying labels grows up with mucus's dovetailed masseur.
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05:28:01 <BigJibby> .origin Monty
05:28:03 <Monty> wait, no handle it saves daylight for it..
05:28:38 <phenny> Can't find info about Monty *.
05:28:38 <Monty> next month :(
05:28:44 <BigJibby> .origin Monty
05:28:47 <Monty> Click the island applies to game Jibbler ?
05:28:57 <phenny> First saw Monty on #swhack at 2004-04-05 22:15:49, saying 'jibble'
05:29:01 <Monty> (sorry, reworing the cause of Hebrew Adah." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt
05:29:21 <BigJibby> shut it Monty
05:29:23 <Monty> works here in bhutanese, thelsdj
05:47:53 <BigJibby> phenny, ask sbp, is there a reason why you have a fleur-de-lis on your blog? or is it just decorative?
05:47:55 <phenny> BigJibby: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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06:18:56 <nsh> @translate italian english dragamine
06:19:00 <supybot> nsh: minesweeper
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06:20:45 <Monty> bah, it's libby again
06:20:57 <bjoern_> bah, it's Monty again
06:20:58 <Monty> "Vertical filter
06:21:14 <bjoern_> I can stand it for now, but thanks Monty.
06:21:14 <Monty> /\
06:21:22 <bjoern_> \/
06:26:01 <nsh> nice
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07:13:33 <sbp> boing
07:13:36 <phenny> sbp: 29 Mar 20:42Z <Morbus> tell sbp Oooh. is patbam giving proper attribution?! <g>
07:13:39 <phenny> sbp: 05:44Z <BigJibby> ask sbp is there a reason why you have a fleur-de-lis on your blog? or is it just decorative?
07:15:09 <sbp> phneny: tell BigJibby http://miscoranda.com/155 explains the fleur-de-lis thingy
07:21:28 <sbp> phenny: ask danja where he got the quote in http://dannyayers.com/2006/03/29/qotd--blood-on-his from
07:21:30 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when danja is around.
07:27:33 <sbp> phenny: tell danja ah! got it. http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01272006
07:27:35 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when danja is around.
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10:24:37 <jewel2> does anyone know of any examples of javascript being used as a server-side scripting language?
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10:53:17 <bjoern_> I think ASP should support it, and the Netscape web server had support for it aswell
10:53:31 <bjoern_> Naturally, for .NET web servers, JScript.NET should also be available
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13:16:10 <kpreid> .pc ſ
13:16:13 <phenny> 017F: LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S (ſ)
13:17:21 <kpreid> phenny: ask sbp or, failing that, jcowan, whether the 'ſ' and 's' are correctly used in http://www.plover.com/blog/book/baroque-ftyle.html
13:17:24 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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13:44:17 <shapr> shazam!
13:48:21 <crschmidt> shaZAM!
13:48:46 <shapr> yow! wassup?
13:51:15 <crschmidt> I'm dressing up in an ill-fitting IVY-LEAGUE SUIT!! Too late...
13:51:33 <kpreid> shapr hasn't been here since last year
13:51:45 <crschmidt> (Sorry, my default reaction to "yow!" is /exec -o fortune zippy)
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14:04:34 <shapr> I've decided that 'yow' is my default swearword.
14:04:43 <shapr> What better way to immortalize Zippy?
14:05:06 <shapr> kpreid: I'm trying to pry myself out of my rut and get a real job.
14:05:34 <crschmidt> ew, a real job ;)
14:05:46 <shapr> That is, I'm trying to do a software startup.
14:05:51 <crschmidt> Ah
14:05:54 <crschmidt> That's not a real job :)
14:05:56 <shapr> Hey, this is #swhack
14:06:05 <shapr> Real Job means something else here.
14:06:58 * crschmidt decided that he doesn't have the guts to lead a startup at the moment
14:07:19 <shapr> I have no money anyway, so ...
14:07:31 <shapr> I'm way tired of being an employee, that much I know.
14:09:51 * crschmidt nods.
14:10:16 <crschmidt> Mostly it's that I don't think I could be a leader of a group of people, and deal with the responsibility of making-or-breaking the business.
14:10:31 <crschmidt> I'd rather let someone else deal with the business/money end, and just work for startups and try to make them succeed
14:17:34 <shapr> Yeah, but 'leader' has a very wide definition.
14:18:01 <shapr> I'm fine with leading a startup, but I will never do anything without an accountant.
14:18:15 <shapr> plus at the moment I don't have any startup money, just ideas and code.
14:18:56 <shapr> (and a partner)
14:20:01 <crschmidt> Sure, but the accountant doesn't, for example, pitch to VCs for you.
14:20:37 <shapr> I can do that part just fine.
14:20:56 <crschmidt> And I don't think I could :)
14:21:22 <shapr> I'm good at selling stuff I believe in, and I'm charismatic.
14:21:38 <shapr> I am not particularly consistent. That is my greatest flaw :-(
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14:57:23 <Morbus> DrBacchus: HI!
14:57:28 <DrBacchus> HI!
14:59:35 <Morbus> It seems weird to me that we haven't seen the templates yet.
14:59:57 <Morbus> That just ... doesn't it seem that's just a "here's the same zip file we've sent out to people dozens of times before"-ish?
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15:03:01 <Morbus> i blame science.
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15:57:28 <BigJibby> Monty, howsit?
15:57:30 <Monty> http://www.patrickruffini.com/archives/vader.jpg
15:58:50 <BigJibby> Monty, did vader sell himself on ebay?
15:58:50 <Monty> bah, alan
15:59:07 <BigJibby> Monty, vader is alan?!
15:59:09 <Monty> bold deece Alan Partridge!
15:59:21 <BigJibby> whoa
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16:11:34 <wallrazer> yo yo yo
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16:35:24 <BigJibby> yo-yos are fun
16:35:57 <BigJibby> .gc "Suzy Swhacker"
16:36:00 <phenny> "Suzy Swhacker": 0
16:36:21 <BigJibby> .gc "Sammy Swhacker"
16:36:25 <phenny> "Sammy Swhacker": 0
16:37:34 <BigJibby> .gc "Monty Swhacker"
16:37:34 <Monty> guess
16:37:37 <phenny> "Monty Swhacker": 0
16:37:37 <BigJibby> 3
16:37:41 <Monty> thank you click next step is dual xeon 3.4 if there will you worked like today?
16:38:13 <BigJibby> Monty, be quiet!
16:38:16 <Monty> clapping jovial babies kisses final Mancunian feasts.
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16:48:48 <bjoern_> dont mess with da monty.
16:48:49 <Monty> .char e\
16:48:50 <wallrazer> anyone fmailiar with ubuntu/
16:48:52 <phenny> è - Latin Small Letter E With Grave (è)
16:50:46 <shapr> never heard of it...
16:50:48 * shapr is joking
16:56:55 <kpreid> .help char
16:57:11 <bjoern_> phenny, help
16:57:13 <phenny> Hi, I'm phenny (http://inamidst.com/phenny/)
16:57:16 <phenny> Commands: beats, charinfo, codepoint, compare, gimage, google, googlecalc, googlecount, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, rate, remind, representation, seen, swhackorigin, swhacktail, thesaurus, time, translate, validate, wordnet
16:57:20 <phenny> Try "phenny: help command?" if stuck. My owner is sbp.
16:57:22 <bjoern_> phenny, help char
16:57:24 <phenny> Sorry, no documentation for char.
16:57:29 <bjoern_> right
16:57:34 <kpreid> phenny, help charinfo
16:57:36 <phenny> '.char <seq> - Get info about a sequence.'
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16:57:45 <kpreid> uh huh
16:57:48 <kpreid> .char :-)
16:57:50 <phenny> : - Colon (:)
16:58:13 <kpreid> .char •
16:58:15 <phenny> • - Bullet (•)
16:58:53 <kpreid> .char ÿ
16:58:55 <phenny> ÿ - Latin Small Letter Y With Diaeresis (ÿ)
16:59:09 <kpreid> dang
16:59:15 <kpreid> .char ẅ
16:59:18 <phenny> ẅ - Latin Small Letter W With Diaeresis (ẅ)
16:59:31 <kpreid> .char ṕ
16:59:33 <phenny> ṕ - Latin Small Letter P With Acute (ṕ)
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17:11:44 <Monty> But what does danja have to do with the price of fish?
17:11:46 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
17:11:47 <Monty> salacious cabbage!
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17:15:50 <BigJibby> .g price of fish
17:15:53 <phenny> BigJibby: http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2005/04/27/voices_tnl_the_price_of_fish_feature.shtml
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17:17:45 <bjoern_> .wik price of monty
17:17:47 <Monty> I reckon raccoons + Sirocco Station = breasts!
17:17:52 <phenny> "Another Monty Python Record was the second album produced by the Monty Python comedy group, released in 1971." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Monty_Python_Record
17:17:54 <Monty> wtf is hard time zone: correct?
17:18:08 <bjoern_> .t WTF
17:18:10 <phenny> bjoern_: Sorry, I don't know about the 'WTF' timezone.
17:18:21 <bjoern_> sorry monty...
17:18:24 <Monty> I reckon pawnbrokers + spheres = sexual history.
17:18:47 <bjoern_> you have serious misconceptions about sexual intercourse related issues Monty.
17:18:48 <Monty> What are your feelings now ?
17:19:01 <bjoern_> I'm freaking out Monty.
17:19:01 <Monty> Do you believe it is normal to be freaking out monty ?
17:19:27 <bjoern_> Well, for me, not really, Monty.
17:19:29 <Monty> excretes Canadian centrifugal cow pats.
17:19:47 <bjoern_> In your dreams, Monty.
17:19:51 <Monty> which can parrot words, but parroting emotion supports unicode...)
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17:20:09 <bjoern_> by the rivers of babylon, Monty.
17:20:11 <Monty> DeadEd: on sovereign Oz territory.
17:20:31 <bjoern_> Why are you talking to DeadEd, Monty?
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17:20:34 <Monty> if (shotgun == fettucine) { mothers respects dead localhost;}
17:20:50 <bjoern_> .wik fettucine
17:20:53 <phenny> "Fettuccine (literally 'little ribbons' in Italian) is a type of pasta." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fettucine
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17:22:30 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's vIkSiT!
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17:22:55 <vIkSiT> yeah, THREE of me! :)
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17:23:09 <bjoern_> .calc 1+1
17:23:12 <phenny> 1 + 1 = 2
17:23:13 <bjoern_> .calc 1+1-1
17:23:15 <phenny> 1 + 1 - 1 = 1
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17:29:54 <kpreid> eel: 2 ** 8
17:30:00 <kpreid> er
17:30:00 <eel> # value: 256
17:30:04 <kpreid> .calc 2 ** 8
17:30:07 <phenny> 2 ** 8 = 256
17:30:11 <kpreid> .calc e
17:30:14 <phenny> e = 2.71828183
17:30:17 <kpreid> .calc i
17:30:19 <phenny> kpreid: Sorry, no result.
17:30:25 <kpreid> .calc π
17:30:27 <phenny> pi = 3.14159265
17:30:43 <kpreid> .calc sqrt(-1)
17:30:46 <phenny> sqrt(-1) = i
17:31:01 <kpreid> .calc e ** (sqrt(-1) * π) + 1
17:31:04 <phenny> (e ** (sqrt(-1) * pi)) + 1 = 0
17:31:43 <kpreid> phenny: ask sbp to include i as a constant in .calc
17:31:45 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
17:31:57 <kpreid> .calc sqrt(-2)
17:31:57 <phenny> sqrt(-2) = 1.41421356 i
17:32:13 <kpreid> .calc sqrt(-2) + 1
17:32:13 <phenny> sqrt(-2) + 1 = 1 + 1.41421356 i
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17:46:07 <bjoern_> .calc -2^(-1/3)
17:46:07 <phenny> -2^(-1 / 3) = 0.396850263 - 0.687364818 i
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17:50:17 <nsh> calc uses google, i think
17:50:28 <crschmidt> yes
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17:57:00 <Ash> calc should use the emacs calculator
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18:02:36 <kpreid> oh
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18:10:08 <crschmidt> .swhack chicken
18:10:10 <phenny> crschmidt: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-26#T20-04-18
18:10:23 <crschmidt> .swhack jibberjim.*chicken
18:10:26 <phenny> crschmidt: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-03-12#T15-03-17
18:10:31 <crschmidt> bah
18:10:37 <crschmidt> .swhack <iframe
18:11:28 <crschmidt> grumble. i was almost positive this was onlog...
18:11:32 <phenny> crschmidt: No results for "<iframe".
18:12:26 <crschmidt> ah, no loggy during that time
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18:14:20 <Monty> lo cocko
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18:23:34 <sbp> boing
18:26:40 <sbp> phenny: tell kpreid that the use of "ſ" is right, but given that no other archaicisms are used, it's a bit quaint at best and anachronistic at worst
18:26:42 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when kpreid is around.
18:27:07 <sbp> hehe: "The re|t of the book is |imilarly eccentric, including, for example, a footnote pointing out that fi|h do not obey the Poi||on di|tribution."
18:27:33 <shapr> That's bizarre.
18:28:00 <shapr> Les poisson n'est pas Poisson?
18:28:02 <kpreid> sbp: I was wondering because there were some "s" unchanged that don't sound distinct from the "ſ" to me
18:28:04 <phenny> kpreid: 18:22Z <sbp> tell kpreid that the use of "ſ" is right, but given that no other archaicisms are used, it's a bit quaint at best and anachronistic at worst
18:28:08 <shapr> er, never mind..
18:30:53 <sbp> kpreid: got an example? they all seem non-medial as far as I can tell from a quick scan
18:31:24 <sbp> .calc e ** (i * π) + 1
18:31:26 <phenny> (e ** (i * pi)) + 1 = 0
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18:31:37 <kpreid> Oh, is that it?
18:31:51 <sbp> yeah, long-s is only ever used in a medial context
18:33:04 * kpreid now notices the NOTE: at the top
18:35:57 <kpreid> "(Can you believe I actually conſidered doing this in every one of my poſts? It's tempting, but just a little too idioſyncratic, even for me.)"
18:36:04 <kpreid> .gc idioſyncratic
18:36:07 <phenny> idioſyncratic: 0
18:36:27 <kpreid> .gc iſ
18:36:28 <sbp> kpreid: did you see that... thing
18:36:30 <phenny> iſ: 205
18:36:35 <kpreid> thing?
18:36:38 <kpreid> that?
18:36:44 <sbp> gah. sorry, I'm tired. er... I can't even remember vaguely what it's called
18:36:48 <sbp> gimme a moment, searching
18:37:00 * kpreid isn't even sure where he should be looking
18:38:54 <sbp> it was a page on a personal website in a section devoted to language, and it covered a kind of archaic typographical guideline to make it look like a strange mix of Old English, Middle English, and Early Modern English. the colour scheme was grey on black
18:39:26 <sbp> the page was devoted to describing itself, i.e. describing the typographical conventions used
18:39:43 <kpreid> I can't say offhand that I've seen it, no
18:41:51 <sbp> woah! I just found it by utter fluke
18:42:02 <sbp> I figured that jcowan would've been the one who showed me it
18:42:20 <sbp> so I did:
18:42:20 <sbp> sbp@manxome:/web/swhack.com/logs$ grep 'jcowan.*http' 200*-*-*.txt | less
18:42:29 <sbp> then regretted it a bit because of the size of the output
18:42:40 <sbp> but I skimmed down to roughly when I thought it was, looked at a handful of URIs
18:42:50 <sbp> tried one, tried another... it was the second one that I tried! hooray
18:42:52 <Morbus> sbp: do you have any info or knowledge regarding awesomeness of author-scribbled footnotes in a copy of their own manuscript?
18:42:54 <sbp> 2005-08-25.txt:17:39:23 <jcowan> sbp: http://everywitchway.net/linguistics/languages/english/reform.html should be a thing after your own heart.
18:43:12 <sbp> 'ello Morb! hmm... awesomeness in what way?
18:43:28 <sbp> Fermat's Last Theorem was, for example, expressed in a sidenote to one of Fermat's documents
18:43:41 <Morbus> like "holy crap, stansilaw lem's draft copy of solaris. ahahaha. check it out. page 23. "jesus, I hope clooney doesn't play this guy."" etc.
18:44:30 <sbp> so, like, awesome code comments and things like that?
18:44:41 <Morbus> yeah, pretty much. i coulda swore we had a discussion about this once before.
18:44:41 <sbp> a la the Morbus? :-)
18:45:03 <Morbus> about personal author copies of their own manuscripts with never before revealed footnotes and insights and dislikes and blah blah.
18:45:06 <sbp> perhaps it was the one with jcowan where he was talking about easter eggs in books?
18:45:11 <Morbus> the reason I ask is because I'm working on my third book.
18:45:12 <sbp> yeah, sounds right
18:45:15 <Morbus> with a coauthor.
18:45:17 <sbp> hang on a moment, I'll look
18:45:20 <sbp> ooh, awesome. tech?
18:45:26 <Morbus> and, we've discovered that Word's "comment" feature is printed.
18:45:32 <Morbus> And PDFs are really easy to make on OS X.
18:45:37 <sbp> Morbus: http://www.forum2.org/tal/books/injokes.html
18:46:42 <sbp> this is my fave: [[[
18:46:42 <sbp> To Joanna,
18:46:42 <sbp> My brilliant and beautiful wife without whom I would be nothing. She always comforts and consoles, never complains or interferes, asks nothing and endures all, and writes my dedications.
18:46:43 <sbp> ]]]
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18:47:04 <Morbus> this is a rather interesting page.
18:47:09 <Morbus> but, less about what i was thinking.
18:47:14 <Morbus> sorta like it though.
18:48:03 <sbp> hmm. it's the only thing I can remember along these lines
18:48:46 <Morbus> bugger.
18:49:08 <Morbus> anyways, i'm/we're mulling over releasing a pdf version with our own commenting/annotations.
18:49:20 <sbp> PDF online?
18:49:36 <Morbus> right, and a regular print book without them, obviously.
18:49:51 <sbp> would the PDF online be free, or also a pay thing?
18:50:08 <Morbus> free.
18:50:14 <sbp> neato
18:50:33 <Ash> PBF online
18:50:47 <sbp> PBS online
18:50:54 <jsled> PBJ online
18:51:01 <sbp> PBJ?
18:51:02 <Ash> who told you about pbs, sbp
18:51:08 <jsled> peanut-butter and jelly.
18:51:24 <Ash> you are not allowed to know about our secret american technology
18:51:33 <Ash> ahahahaha
18:51:34 <sbp> Ash: Frasier, and The Simpsons
18:51:34 <Ash> http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF095ADPrankDragon.html
18:51:54 <sbp> hehe
18:51:57 <sbp> PBF is awesome
18:52:02 <Ash> i love it
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18:59:39 <sbp> DrB! dude, I have a quick burning mod_rewrite question. is it possible, for having a file at $DOCUMENT_ROOT/boing to have /something return a 200, content being the document at boing, and /boing to return a 302 redirect to /something?
18:59:50 <sbp> (or if anyone else here knows...)
18:59:53 <sbp> I spent hours hacking on it
19:00:23 <DrB> Hmm. Yeah, I guess you could do that. ... thnking ...
19:00:43 <sbp> see, now, I tried this:
19:00:43 <sbp> RewriteRule ^something$ boing [L]
19:00:43 <sbp> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} boing$
19:00:43 <sbp> RewriteRule ^boing$ /something [R]
19:00:51 <sbp> and by rights I *really* think that should've worked
19:01:03 <DrB> This is in a .htaccess file?
19:01:06 <sbp> yeah
19:01:20 <DrB> Yeah, that's going to loop.
19:01:34 <DrB> But how to make it not loop ...
19:02:08 <DrB> Hmm. Wait. That shouldn't loop.
19:02:10 * DrB is confused.
19:02:10 <sbp> ah, but surely when it applies the first RewriteRule it shouldn't change the REQUEST_URI?
19:02:14 <sbp> yeah
19:02:19 <DrB> Why the heck do you want to do this?
19:02:31 <sbp> oh man, that's a whole other story
19:02:37 <DrB> Yes, changing REQUEST_URI is exactly what rewriterule *does*
19:02:37 <sbp> basically... [sucks in air]
19:02:41 <DrB> never mind
19:02:44 <sbp> oho, I see
19:02:54 <DrB> You don't need to explain if it's a hassle. :-)
19:03:02 <sbp> nah, the basic fact is: I want to have a tree that mirrors my ~/, containing my dotfiles
19:03:12 <sbp> but I don't want URIs like /.emacs; I'd want /emacs for that
19:03:26 <sbp> likewise, /sshconf for /.ssh/conf
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19:03:35 <DrB> Interesting.
19:03:40 <sbp> so I want, e.g., the file to exist at .emacs but for /.emacs to redirect to /emacs
19:03:45 <sbp> and for /emacs to serve the file at .emacs...
19:03:59 <bjoern_> I'm fairly sure /sshconf goes against Web architecture.
19:04:11 <DrB> huh?
19:04:14 <sbp> bjoern_: heh. pardon?
19:04:22 <Ash> sbp: don't forget /.ssh/id_dsa
19:04:27 <Ash> be sure to publish that one
19:04:28 <bjoern_> you don't think the TAG has a rule against it?
19:04:38 <DrB> A rule against what, exactly?
19:04:45 <crschmidt> AGAINST EVERYTHING
19:04:48 <DrB> Ah.
19:04:51 <Ash> TAG SAYS NO
19:04:58 <bjoern_> first, the name clearly indicates the content
19:05:01 <bjoern_> but the content might change
19:05:14 <bjoern_> in 50 years it might be the config file for the
19:05:22 <bjoern_> Super Dupa Shell
19:05:32 <bjoern_> in which case you would have to rename it
19:05:37 <bjoern_> which breaks the URI
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19:05:51 <DrB> I think it's safe to say I have no idea what you're talking about.
19:05:52 <bjoern_> it's better to name it after some thing that doesn't change
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19:06:01 <bjoern_> for example, the ctime.
19:06:06 <DrB> Ok, I'll bite. What would you name it?
19:06:27 <bjoern_> well, /2006/03/30?
19:06:39 <Morbus> DrB: i think we should definiteily do word comments/annotations throughout the book, keep 'em all, and then give away a PDF with our comments once the initial run is over.
19:06:44 <DrB> sbp: ok, on the first rule, do a [PT] and on the second rule add a [NS]
19:06:52 <DrB> Morbus: +1
19:06:55 <bjoern_> .cp E007F
19:06:57 <phenny> E007F: CANCEL TAG
19:06:59 <bjoern_> oh, nm
19:07:19 <sbp> DrB: ooh. PassThrough I know; NS I'll look up. trying it first though...
19:07:46 <DrB> NoSubrequest. I *think* a [PT] is a subrequest, but I'm actually not sure.
19:08:15 <DrB> bjoern_: I don't at all follow the reasoning that makes that a bad URL. Perhaps some day I shall become enlightened.
19:08:30 <bjoern_> don't worry... ;-)
19:08:47 <Morbus> heh, heh
19:09:55 <DrB> sbp: And, if not that, you could PT and then E=redir:1 and then RewriteCond on the env var redir. Or ... something.
19:10:06 <DrB> I have my annual performance review now, so I'll be back in a while.
19:11:30 <crschmidt> "Helped numerous people completely unrelated to the company do things that are completely unrelated to my job"
19:11:56 <sbp> getting a 302 from both with the PT/NS idea
19:12:30 <sbp> I think I'll try the PT/E idea tomorrow when I'm less absofrickinglutely tired off of my ass
19:12:51 <sbp> thanks!
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19:18:40 <bjoern_> .gc absofrickinglutely
19:18:44 <phenny> absofrickinglutely : 395
19:18:54 <bjoern_> .gc absofrickinglutely -swhack
19:18:57 <phenny> absofrickinglutely -swhack: 396
19:19:07 <Arnia> Oh dear... http://www.burtonini.com/blog//life/anger-part-two-2006-03-30-17-20
19:24:12 <thelsdj> .gc absofrigginglutely
19:24:15 <phenny> absofrigginglutely: 440
19:24:24 <thelsdj> .gc absofuckinglutely
19:24:25 <phenny> absofuckinglutely: 69,800
19:24:37 <thelsdj> .gc absofrackinglutely
19:24:39 <phenny> absofrackinglutely: 31
19:25:43 <thelsdj> .gc absofragginglutely
19:25:45 <phenny> absofragginglutely: 697
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20:05:47 * bjoern_ discovers http://www.encyclopedia-obscura.com
20:05:52 <bjoern_> not a wiki :(
20:06:19 <bjoern_> "Who needs dogs when you can have man-sized Nazi rats?"
20:07:57 <bjoern_> so you people don't know either...
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20:24:01 <jsled> Hmm. {<root xmlns:foo="..." xmlns:bar="..."><foo:quux bar:baz="..." /></root>} is invalid?
20:25:24 <bancus> I would presume
20:25:36 <kpreid> It is well-formed.
20:25:54 <kpreid> Can't say whether it's valid, since you haven't given a DTD. :)
20:25:55 <bancus> unless the bar namespace specifically allows for the inclusion of its properties in elements from the foo namespace.
20:26:49 <kpreid> bancus: XML says nothing about that. At most, you can look at the default rules some schema language provides.
20:27:14 <bancus> So you can put any property anywhere?
20:28:16 <crschmidt> yes
20:29:15 <bancus> Without restriction?
20:29:21 <bancus> Even if you use DTDs?
20:30:01 <crschmidt> Well, not neccesarily if you use DTDs, but XML itself makes no restrictions on that
20:30:06 <kpreid> DTDs can express statements that particular elements can have only attributes from a fixed set.
20:30:18 <kpreid> DTDs are not namespace-aware.
20:30:30 <bancus> I didn't say it wasn't well-formed.
20:30:43 <bancus> I just said I'd presume it invalid except in given circumstances.
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20:43:48 <bancus> .compare "juggling ducks" "juggling geese"
20:43:52 <phenny> "juggling geese" (176), "juggling ducks" (33)
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21:37:24 <crschmidt> phenny: tell JibberJim thanks for wonderful javascripting helpfulness. Stuff you set me up with has made today's project a one day project instead of a 2 day project
21:37:26 <phenny> crschmidt: I'll pass that on when jibberjim is around.
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21:46:10 <DrBacchus> Morbus: Wooga
21:46:18 <Morbus> eh?
21:46:22 <DrBacchus> Wooga.
21:46:24 <DrBacchus> Just Wooga.
21:46:26 <DrBacchus> Nothing more.
21:46:27 <crschmidt> Wooga
21:46:36 <DrBacchus> See? crschmidt gets it.
21:46:52 <crschmidt> heh, i just realized that I have 3 machines with three different OSes on them sitting on my desk
21:46:56 <crschmidt> linux, XP, and OS X
21:47:06 <DrBacchus> Doesn't everyone?
21:47:19 <crschmidt> I don't typically have a Windows machine in the house
21:47:21 <crschmidt> much less on my desk
21:47:28 <DrBacchus> Actualy, I don't have XP at the moment.
21:49:41 <crschmidt> spam added to a bunch of openguides recently is now starting with an apology:
21:49:41 <crschmidt> <div style="overflow:auto;height:1px;">
21:49:42 <crschmidt> Excuse for my post but I do not have money to buy meal to my children. Forgive me please.
21:57:58 <Ash> lol
21:58:10 <Ash> I do not have money to put food on my family
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21:58:59 <bancus> I have an XP system I'm on right now, and a linux server sitting next to me.
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21:59:02 <bancus> No mac though.
21:59:19 <bancus> If they weren't so goddamned expensive, I'd probably have a mac laptop here.
22:00:49 <Ash> they're pretty average compared to equivalent pc laptops
22:01:05 <Ash> unfortunately the only 'equivalent' pc laptop is really a thinkpad
22:01:08 <Ash> everything else is sux
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22:04:30 * JibberJim wonders why I wasn't on swhack
22:04:36 <JibberJim> swhack!
22:06:18 <Ash> SWHOCK
22:06:21 <jsled> Hmm. From the cover of this month's ACM Queue, there is, within, an article "Where is the High in Tech?". I'm wondering if it's about the lack of pot in design or something...
22:06:29 <Ash> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
22:06:37 <jilldaw> Ash has no need of pot
22:06:52 <Ash> jilldaw: dude how do I know I have never tried :(
22:06:55 <jilldaw> Ash is insane^Whigh on life
22:06:58 <Ash> maybe I would be better on the reefer
22:07:44 <jilldaw> clearly we need to make several Ash clones and give them different levels of various drugs
22:07:50 <jsled> I have no idea what the article is about. He must have been stoned when he wrote it.
22:11:55 <crschmidt> JibberJim!
22:11:57 <phenny> crschmidt: 22:01Z <JibberJim> tell crschmidt no worries
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22:53:14 <bancus> Ash: get off my damned refridgeration unit
22:54:26 <Ash> NO
22:55:25 <bancus> get off you crazy kid!
22:55:30 * bancus shakes his fist
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22:57:50 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's dmiles_afk!
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23:04:52 <thelsdj> wow, thats interesting
23:05:23 <thelsdj> #swhack/freenode shares 3 people with #lounge/worldforge
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