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01:43:02 <Monty> hi patbam, how ya doing?
01:43:04 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
01:43:07 <Monty> I reckon factions + pterodactyl = Schumacher's colouring?!
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02:18:35 <BigJibby> countdown
02:18:35 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 3, 8, 7, 2, 8. Your target is 556. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
02:19:05 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
02:19:07 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 21 milliseconds. I found all 58 solutions in about 232 milliseconds.
02:19:08 <Monty> ibot (75 + 3)*7 + 2 + 8
02:19:37 <BigJibby> Monty, how do you do that?
02:19:37 <Monty> Have you asked anyone else ?
02:19:48 <BigJibby> Monty, no, just you.
02:19:50 <Monty> oblong feather-brained glam-rock :P
02:20:27 <BigJibby> .t est
02:20:30 <phenny> Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:15:55 EST
02:21:11 <BigJibby> .t edt
02:21:13 <phenny> Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:16:38 EDT
02:27:10 <kpreid> "The average homeowner should expect to repair direct meteor damage every hundred million years."
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02:34:23 * BigJibby also buys a bridge
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02:40:15 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
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02:50:34 <BigJibby> you make funny noises
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03:16:41 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's bsittler!
03:18:31 <bsittler> this is a note for people discussing utf-8, utf-8b and cesu-8 last week (or was it the week before?) http://xent.com/~bsittler/libiconv-1.9.1-utf-8b.diff patches libiconv to support this, full description here: http://bsittler.livejournal.com/10381.html (sorry about it being lj...)
03:19:10 <bsittler> i sent a link to bruno haible but no idea when/if it will ever be accepted into the official distribution of libiconv
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03:35:44 <bsittler> also, has anyone else here dealt with the problem of malicious system identifiers in XML DTDs? i'd like to use validation (mainly so that the named characterentities from docbook and xhtml work) but don't want to allow /etc/passwd to be inlined into a web page via <!ENTITY passwd SYSTEM "/etc/passwd"> ... &passwd;
04:02:43 <thelsdj> nice, got gmail setup for one of my domains, though still not my main one
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08:18:42 <Monty> Thank goodness, gromgull is back!
08:18:44 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
08:18:48 <Monty> an apple -- http://www.nedbatchelder.com/blog/200408.html#e20040810T090045
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10:28:38 <sbp`> hellos
10:31:33 <nsh> rever-whuh?
10:31:40 * nsh loads browser
10:38:09 <sbp`> interesting stuff from bsittler!
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14:20:26 <bjoern_> '''Captain Obvious is a superhero. That is, he is a guy who fights bad guys, supervillains, and evil-doers. The name "Captain" is purely symbolic. Captain Obvious does not hold the rank of Captain in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Marines, or any Police Department. Nor is he licensed to fly commercial or cargo aircraft or pilot fishing vessels or cargo vessels.'''
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16:10:34 <bjoern_> "Maybe the store will let us take the stuff if we give them money?" ~ Captain Obvious on shopping for decorative bric-a-bracs with Cypher after being sent out on errands by the other X-Men
16:11:34 <bancus> heh
16:16:22 <bjoern_> Monty, do you have a tatoo saying "UC ME" on your forehead?
16:16:22 <Monty> What makes you think I have a tatoo saying uc you ?
16:16:47 <bjoern_> Well, I'm not thinking (it hurts more often than not), I'm asking you Monty...
16:16:49 <Monty> ah, you're looking at 17-12-47 AaronSw said, 'Heh.'"
16:17:11 <bjoern_> which century was that, Monty?
16:17:11 <Monty> WP: [[[
16:17:47 <jsled> ]]], Monty.
16:17:48 <Monty> 10 machines (cpu/memory) for Sir.
16:17:58 <jsled> Ooh! I'll take that! Thanks, Monty.
16:18:01 <Monty> http://www.openideaproject.org/kalati_docs/on_kalati.html
16:18:03 <jsled> When can I expect them?
16:18:21 <bjoern_> Monty never does anything like that for me :(
16:18:21 <Monty> huh?
16:18:31 <bjoern_> yes Monty, it's true! admit it!
16:18:32 <Monty> huh?
16:18:47 <bjoern_> You can't talk yourself out of this Monty!
16:18:49 <Monty> CVS excretes peppermints.
16:19:02 <bjoern_> Monty! don't switch topics now!
16:19:03 <Monty> wait for inbox
16:19:18 <bjoern_> oh, you want to discuss this offchannel? okay Monty...
16:19:18 <Monty> lol, we were discussing you not me!
16:19:28 <bjoern_> stop it damn bot!
16:21:08 <bjoern_> "The X-Men are a group of overrated crime-fighting superheroes, a shadowy, covert group of black men within the Red Cross organization."
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16:45:47 <bjoern_> "Microsoft is known for it's generous contributions to the Porn aid program. Their revolutionary Internet Explorer offers a platform for porn producers around the world to showcase their latest products. To maximize exposure to these products, Microsoft has kindly agreed to allow porn websites to produce so-called popups and popunders,
16:45:47 <bjoern_> to make sure even the most inexperienced internet users can find porn. Also Microsoft helps the user getting his daily dose of fine porn by installing Spyware which randomly displays nifty images of hot females interacting with dogs." -- http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pornography
16:46:11 <bjoern_> I didn't know "Furry Porn is quite popular in Germany" ...
16:56:53 <bancus> .ety agnostic
16:56:55 <phenny> "1870, 'one who professes that the existence of a First Cause and the essential nature of things are not and cannot be known.' Coined by T.H." - http://etymonline.com/?term=agnostic
16:57:08 <bancus> hm
16:57:10 <bancus> .ety gnostic
16:57:13 <phenny> "c.1585, from L.L. gnosticus, from Late Gk. gnostikos, noun use of adj. gnostikos 'knowing, able to discern,' from gnostos 'knowable,' from gignoskein 'to learn, to come to know' (see know)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=gnostic
16:57:39 <bancus> Makes sense, I guess.
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17:21:35 <bjoern_> hm, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Steve_Ballmer that doesn't come by surprise...
17:23:26 <Arnia> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who
17:24:03 <bjoern_> The Yoda quote is great.
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17:32:09 <JibberJim> .seen danbri
17:32:12 <phenny> JibberJim: I last saw danbri at 2006-04-02 07:13:16 UTC on #swig
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17:33:51 <bjoern_> ha http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:FireFoxxy.jpg
17:34:04 <bjoern_> now that'd be good marketing.
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17:54:05 <bancus> .wn insouciantly
17:54:07 <phenny> I couldn't find 'insouciantly' in WordNet.
17:54:11 <bancus> .wn insouciant
17:54:13 <phenny> insouciant 1. marked by blithe unconcern
17:54:20 <bancus> .wn blithe
17:54:22 <phenny> blithe 1. lacking or showing a lack of due concern
17:54:25 <phenny> blithe 2. carefree and happy and lighthearted
17:54:30 <bancus> heh
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19:09:08 <sbp> boing
19:11:23 <deltab> Mark Thomas on Dispatches!
19:11:37 <deltab> "After-School Arms Club"
19:11:43 <Ash> BOING
19:11:50 <Ash> sbp: I think you mean 'Boring'
19:18:12 <Morbus> anyone know of a cd-burning utility, preferably GUI, with disc spanning support? (IE., give it 4 gigs, and it'll split it automatically amongst 6 disks, etc.
19:18:16 <Morbus> linux.
19:20:09 <Ash> Backup.app
19:20:11 <Ash> ;-)
19:20:14 <Morbus> heh, heh.
19:20:24 <Ash> how's it going Morbus?
19:20:29 <Morbus> busy busy busy.
19:20:31 <Ash> are you a dad yet?
19:20:36 <Morbus> nope, 7 weeks.
19:20:40 <Ash> oh ho
19:20:48 <Ash> the last two weeks are the worst
19:20:53 <Ash> so, you know, be prepared
19:20:54 <Ash> ;)
19:21:08 <Morbus> :)
19:25:08 <sbp> BONING
19:25:21 <Ash> the sbp that I... BONED?
19:25:26 <sbp> heh, heh
19:25:37 <sbp> No Moral. The End.
19:25:58 <Ash> i love Achewood so much
19:26:02 <Ash> <3 <3 <3
19:26:56 <Ash> me and somebody else were discussing how we wanted a 'saddest thing' after the GOF
19:27:10 <Ash> and this totally works
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19:44:55 <sbp> yeah, I was wondering how he was going to handle coming out of such a great arc
19:45:02 <sbp> looks like he's just on major form
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19:52:03 <bjoern_> sbp!
19:56:05 <raxor> sbp!
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20:00:17 <sbp> bjoern_! raxor! hellos!
20:01:00 <bjoern_> g00d 3v3n1ng!
20:01:16 <sbp> loelzs
20:01:26 <sbp> what's on the cards tonight, then?
20:01:41 <bjoern_> I need to know: why is "m" not called "double-n"?
20:02:11 <sbp> good question. this all dates back to a proclamation made in the reign of the emperor Nero
20:02:24 <sbp> basically what had happened is that his daughter had fallen in love with a slave
20:02:42 <Morbus> this sounds like the history of quezlarian numerias, and vi actually.
20:03:28 <sbp> Nero was obviously not particularly happy about this arrangement, but because he loved his daughter so, instead of putting the slave instantly to death as would be usual roman custom, he consulted a soothsayer
20:04:18 <sbp> the soothsayer gave him the following cryptic message (I paraphrase): "if the moon turns green, her love will be a sheen; if the moon turns blind, her love will be a grind"
20:05:10 <sbp> now, Nero interpreted this as meaning something to do with the moon, so he assembled a gaggle of astronomers to check the state of the moon every night hoping that it would do something along the lines of what the soothsayer said
20:05:44 <sbp> meanwhile, the daughter was busy seeing the slave still in secret, and they used to meet at a brothel called La Luna, or whatever it was in Latin
20:06:37 <sbp> the brothel, though it sounds kinda seedy, was actually one of those roman orgy like places, and its clientele used to be the more astute individuals of the roman republic--some of the senators, the judges, and so on
20:07:11 <sbp> the metaphor nowadays for the upper classes is "blue blood", but back in roman times it used to be called "green blood"
20:07:48 <sbp> so after a couple of weeks had gone by, the moon was full and Nero was most expecting it to tell him something, but nothing did. yet! on that vrey night there was a strange revolt in the brothel
20:08:10 <sbp> the prostitutes, rebelling, went on a rampage killing all of their "visitors"
20:08:45 <sbp> in the carnage, not only were a sizable proportion of the senators and other elite of ancient rome wiped out, but mistakenly the slave that Nero's daughter was in love with was also horribly injured
20:09:30 <sbp> when Nero heard about this, he understood suddenly what the soothsayer had meant! if the Moon brothel turned green... it'd been splattered wall to wall with the green blood of its clientele
20:10:22 <sbp> Nero decided to bless the union between his daughter and the slave, but the slave, injured, was actually so bad off that he was dying
20:11:14 <sbp> sad that he had not interpreted the sign more cleverly and prevented this catastophe, Nero granted the slave one wish that should be kept forever in perpetuity whilst the roman empire stood
20:11:53 <sbp> the slave replied that he wanted the letter m to no longer be called double-n, as it had been until that time, because Nero's daughter was called Neroette, and to him the letter "N" was the most beautiful in the whole language and could never be doubled
20:12:01 <sbp> Nero granted this, and proclaimed it to be so forever
20:12:41 <sbp> by the time the roman empire fell, several hundred years later, it was thought that this custom had something to do with an incident involving clowns, a bordello (they were close in that respect), and a very old state of a donkey
20:13:16 <sbp> but since by then the donkey was quite venerated in the small rebel states that came to replace the roman empire, they kept the tradition, and so it passed into antiquity and has still remained so until the present day
20:14:40 <bjoern_> .img nero's daughter
20:14:42 <phenny> nero's daughter: http://www.ohg-genetic.de/images/bullen/47033343.jpg
20:15:07 <sbp> that picture is taken from an old engraving
20:15:32 <bjoern_> she's got pretty big ... oh well.
20:15:40 <sbp> aye
20:16:17 <bjoern_> Now, why is "w" called "double-u"?
20:17:19 <sbp> because it's made of two u's stuck together. eventually they made it into a single character
20:18:05 <crschmidt> the problem with sbp's historical accounts is that they're always so eerily detailed that i tend to be convinced that they're real
20:18:20 <crschmidt> but then there are bits that make me doubt it
20:18:26 <crschmidt> and i end up spinning round and round in a confused mess
20:18:46 <bjoern_> wow, you actually read all the shit?
20:18:51 <crschmidt> yeah
20:18:55 <bjoern_> ;-)
20:18:59 <crschmidt> after it was all typed, even
20:19:05 <sbp> oddly enough, the most implausible thing about the story is that Nero's daughter would be called "Neroette", but actually his mother was called Agrippina, which is equally implausible
20:19:53 <sbp> also Nero was quite a narcissist, AFAIK
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20:21:07 <Kragen> what's so implausible about Agrippina?
20:21:43 <sbp> I'd only previously known about the male form, Agrippa, until I heard of her
20:21:52 <sbp> I'm probably just a foolton
20:23:56 <sbp> .compare Agrippa Agrippina
20:23:59 <phenny> Agrippa (3,550,000), Agrippina (849,000)
20:24:35 <sbp> apparently my fooltonness ratio is 3550000:849000. it's nice to have a quantitative estimate of that
20:24:44 <Kragen> well, it depends on your priors of course
20:25:03 <Kragen> my priors include the existence of the greek letter 'mu' in classical greece
20:25:21 <sbp> priors?
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20:25:43 <Kragen> implausibility is the same thing as improbability, right?
20:25:58 <wallrazer> no
20:26:05 <Kragen> but comparing the probability of things requires prior estimates of probability
20:26:10 <wallrazer> implausability means its hard to believe that it could happen
20:26:12 <sbp> no, I don't think so either. different connotation
20:26:25 <wallrazer> improbability means that it's unlikely to happen
20:26:38 <wallrazer> being struck by lightening is relatively improbable
20:26:46 <wallrazer> but no one would argue that it is implausible
20:26:53 <sbp> yeah, well put
20:28:10 <Kragen> a prediction that i am to be struck by lightning tomorrow is implausible, as is an email claiming that my uncle was struck by lightning yesterday
20:28:25 <wallrazer> indeed
20:28:56 <sbp> but it's not impossible your uncle was struck by lightning yesterday (assuming you know no proof to the contrary)
20:29:12 <sbp> oh, improbable it is though. nevermind
20:29:17 <Kragen> "implausible" means that it's improbable that it's true even after adjusting your priors to account for the new information asserting that it's true.
20:29:34 * sbp melts down all imp* words for fireword... heh
20:29:37 <Kragen> substitute something more probable than lightning, such as getting into a car accident, and neither of those are implausible anymore
20:29:43 <wallrazer> that's working awfullly hard to complicate my explanation
20:29:47 <wallrazer> :)
20:30:48 <sbp> so your priors are contextual information enabling you to make assessments, for example, of the probabilities of particular events happening?
20:31:20 <Kragen> your priors are those probabilities themselves.
20:31:49 * sbp finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_distribution
20:31:56 <Kragen> it's short for "prior probabilities"
20:32:03 <Kragen> bayesian probability doesn't have an answer to where you get your priors from before you have any information.
20:32:03 * wallrazer is a prior of the ori
20:32:10 <wallrazer> hallowed are the ori
20:33:19 <sbp> "for example, suppose p is the proportion of voters who will vote for a politician in a future election, let's call him Smith" - the voters are one guy named Smith?
20:33:54 <Kragen> hit edit button. do not kibitz on irc without editing
20:35:08 <sbp> heh: 'The term "uninformative prior" is a misnomer; such a prior might be called a /not very informative prior/.'
20:35:18 * sbp hits edit
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20:37:40 <sbp> saved
20:37:55 <sbp> and thanks, I get your mu point now
20:39:05 * sbp waves to schepers and SethR
20:39:13 <SethR> hi sean
20:39:19 <Kragen> yay :)
20:39:33 <SethR> what did u think of my cartoon maker?
20:39:39 <sbp> "(for example, suppose p is the proportion of voters who will vote for the politician named Smith in a future election)"
20:39:44 <sbp> SethR: cartoon maker?
20:40:08 <SethR> http://fastblogit.com/funnypages
20:42:02 <sbp> heh: "The second is dedicated to all those passionate Web 2.0 folks and the desks they sleep under." - http://weblog.burningbird.net/2006/03/30/cans-of-spam-bits-of-tinfoil/ (via funnypages)
20:42:27 <sbp> SethR: what're you doing there, exactly?
20:42:39 <sbp> are you still going to the cabal meetings with William, by the way?
20:42:46 <SethR> you can make a cartoon at http://fastblogit.com/cartoons/create.html
20:43:09 <SethR> yes, last meeting was very interesting .. i have some pictures but have not had time to upload
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20:43:44 <sbp> ah, a great shame. I'd love to see them
20:44:16 <SethR> watch http://fastblobit.com/kabal ... should show up there some day
20:45:03 <sbp> ta
20:45:25 <SethR> feed for that is http://fastblogit.com/feed/?group=kabal
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20:54:52 <SethR> i added some stuff to your frame
20:55:26 <sbp> oh?
20:55:49 <sbp> hmm, http://fastblogit.com/ redirects me to http://fastblogit.com/cartoons/create.html
20:56:18 <SethR> yep
20:56:21 <SethR> http://fastblogit.com/item/3217
20:57:03 <sbp> oh, heh, I see. yeah, I didn't make the world's greatest cartoon there
20:57:20 <sbp> basically it was an invisible rabbit saying "kaboom" to a mute sheep
20:57:27 <sbp> a mute and invisible sheep
20:57:34 <SethR> i didnt see not stinking rabit
20:57:54 <sbp> that's because he's invisible
20:58:18 <Ash> KABOOM
20:58:38 <sbp> unlike Ash who is visible with the aid of a very powerful helloscope
20:58:47 <Ash> lolloscope
20:59:04 <Ash> vagely related to the scanning tunneling roffleometer
21:00:33 <SethR> sbp, your reference re can-of-spam-of-tinfoil was about my cartoon http://fastblogit.com/permalink/?item=3198
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23:24:58 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's BigJibby!
23:25:22 <BigJibby> heya Monty!
23:25:23 <Monty> glass
23:25:25 <phenny> BigJibby: 09:55Z <mahangu> tell BigJibby thanks for the blackbox reference. it rocks!
23:25:28 <phenny> BigJibby: 14:35Z <AjayDSouza> tell BigJibby that unixshell looks good however it isn't managed and I still suck at linux.... any clues about hosteasier?
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23:33:10 <BigJibby> phenny, tell AjayDSouza http://asmallorange.com/ has managed VPS', but I don't know anyone using their VPS' so I can't recommend them...
23:33:12 <phenny> BigJibby: I'll pass that on when ajaydsouza is around.
23:37:32 <thelsdj> http://www.hlcomic.com/index.php?date=2005-06-29
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