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01:06:24 <thelsdj> hehe, latest clue in the studio cyphers arg: http://www.geocities.com/cryptochuck38/
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01:18:07 <Morbus> hrm
01:18:16 <danja> god I'm wired
01:18:18 <Morbus> i've forgotten how to include an xslt style in an xml document.
01:18:19 <Morbus> any help?
01:18:35 <danja> can you wace something distracting at me
01:18:42 <danja> wAVE
01:18:55 <jsled> <?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" href="rdl-0.1.css"?>
01:18:56 <danja> iBook
01:19:02 <jsled> Oh, wait. nevermind.
01:19:05 <danja> ok
01:19:26 <danja> is that an information resource..?
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01:19:50 <jsled> It's something like that, though. <?xsl href="..."?> or something.
01:19:54 <Morbus> yeah, thanks.
01:19:56 <Morbus> that was helpful enough
01:19:59 <Morbus> http://www.disobey.com/detergent/lists/bookmarks
01:20:09 <danja> copy & paste
01:20:38 <danja> was your last blog post worth echoing, Morbus?
01:20:46 <Morbus> eh?
01:20:50 <Morbus> echoing to where?
01:20:54 <Morbus> i think it was on bootcamp.
01:21:01 <danja> my blog
01:21:13 <Morbus> have a blast.
01:21:43 <danja> better idea
01:22:09 <danja> you GUEST BLOG for me
01:22:15 <Morbus> are you nuts?!
01:22:18 <Morbus> i barely guest blog for myself.
01:22:35 <danja> have you got a squirrel up your bum?
01:23:13 <danja> when did you last mess about withyour css?
01:23:22 <Morbus> months ago
01:23:30 <danja> black/red, right
01:23:43 <Morbus> well, it's been black/red for a while, sure.
01:24:12 <danja> it works
01:24:13 <Morbus> i continue to like black/red.
01:24:25 <danja> it makes you look younger
01:24:34 <Morbus> i'm trendy
01:24:42 <danja> hey!
01:24:58 <danja> I met leigh dodds today!!
01:25:08 <danja> cool dude
01:25:19 <jsled> Anyone have experience using gettext in php4?
01:25:58 <danja> no, but I'm curios to know what it does
01:26:17 <jetscreamer> it puts non-text
01:27:14 <danja> template thing, or data shifting?
01:27:51 <danja> like, string or markup'
01:28:41 <danja> bleaah
01:29:02 <danja> 95% knackered threads
01:29:04 <danja> 5
01:29:11 <danja> 5
01:29:12 <danja> 5
01:29:19 <danja> and the rest
01:29:42 <danja> buzzin' like mad
01:30:13 <danja> bloody conferences
01:30:25 <danja> nerdy one as well
01:31:09 <danja> phenny tell sbp, there are a lot of strange people in Bristol
01:31:44 <danja> .phenny read the logs
01:32:03 <danja> .bow locks
01:32:12 <danja> .g bow locks
01:32:15 <phenny> danja: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/djrichieh/
01:32:56 <danja> "the UK's best loved breakfast show"
01:33:15 <danja> is it a rubbish website or did I miss something terrible
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01:36:26 <danja> I lived in Bromley-by-Bow for a while, the way you got away from the dual carriageway was to walk arounng te locks
01:36:26 <danja> or went to the pub
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01:39:02 <danja> I came over here for the semweb conference
01:39:13 <danja> java/jena
01:39:37 <danja> but I stayed for the keith moon vodka
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01:47:11 <Monty> bah, it's eel36n again
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02:09:27 <jetscreamer> damn and it's level3
02:09:41 <jetscreamer> oh nm
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04:39:16 <Monty> it's Grantbow!
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04:41:51 * Grantbow waves
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04:46:36 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
04:46:36 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 1, 6, 8, 7, 1. Your target is 816. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:46:55 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 8*(75+6+8)
04:46:56 <Monty> bjoern_: 712
04:47:02 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (8+1)*(75+6+8)
04:47:02 <Monty> bjoern_: 801
04:47:06 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:47:07 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
04:47:14 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
04:47:14 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 1, 4, 9, 2, 5. Your target is 611. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:47:24 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 9*75
04:47:24 <Monty> bjoern_: 675
04:47:41 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 9*(75 - 5)
04:47:42 <Monty> bjoern_: 630
04:47:44 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 9*(75 - 5 - 1)
04:47:44 <Monty> bjoern_: 621
04:47:46 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:47:47 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 11 milliseconds. I found all 63 solutions in about 213 milliseconds.
04:47:49 <Monty> ibot (75*2 + 5)*4 - 9
04:48:21 <jsled> why do pages like this exist
04:48:23 <jsled> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Green_Day
04:48:27 <jsled> Bloody fucking hell.
04:49:11 <bjoern_> hey, it's *Green Day*, what's not to get about it?
04:49:31 <bjoern_> I mean, 04,08 Green Day99,99
04:49:54 <jsled> Naw, I mean Green Day rocks. But the Talk page is so silly.
04:50:18 <bjoern_> you read all of it? now that'd be silly.
04:50:25 <jsled> heh. ;p
04:50:45 <jsled> [[[ Collective Noun Crash Course
04:50:45 <jsled> TheoClarke edited this page to change verbs describing the actions of the band from plural to singular. This, however, is unnecessary and (in circles outside the US) considered to be incorrect. ]]]
04:51:50 <bjoern_> .g Geek stink breath lyrics
04:51:52 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/greenday/geekstinkbreath.html
04:52:56 <bjoern_> '''"Zeig Heil to the president gasman"'''
04:53:04 <bjoern_> .gc "Zeig Heil"
04:53:06 <phenny> "Zeig Heil": 16,800
04:53:33 <bjoern_> Ah, so I'm clearly missing something...
04:53:52 <jsled> .gc "Seig heil"
04:53:54 <phenny> "Seig heil": 51,800
04:54:01 <bjoern_> .gc "Siege Heil"
04:54:04 <jsled> .gc "Seig hail"
04:54:04 <phenny> "Siege Heil": 2,590
04:54:07 <phenny> "Seig hail": 6,280
04:54:26 <bjoern_> @spell Zeig Heil
04:54:29 <supybot> bjoern_: No spelling suggestion made. This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for 02G04o08o02g03l04e to figure out.
04:54:35 <jsled> .gc "Sieg heil"
04:54:38 <phenny> "Sieg heil": 448,000
04:54:44 <jsled> (suggests google)
04:55:40 *** jsled changed the topic to: ""His pet monkey does likewise." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieg_Heil"
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05:26:00 <bjoern_> phenny, "Is mir doch egal..."?
05:26:03 <phenny> bjoern_: Hmm, got 'swedish'...
05:26:29 <bjoern_> @translate german to english "Is mir doch egal..."
05:26:33 <supybot> bjoern_: Is me nevertheless all the same...
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05:27:49 <bjoern_> .gc Whatsername
05:27:52 <phenny> Whatsername: 492,000
05:28:13 <bjoern_> .gc Wikikrieg
05:28:15 <phenny> Wikikrieg: 40
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05:31:29 <bjoern_> "First of all, everyone here thinks they're an anarchist cause they listen to Green Day and dont like Bush very much."
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05:55:14 <bjoern_> .w infamous
05:55:17 <phenny> infamous 1. having an exceedingly bad reputation
05:55:24 <bjoern_> .ety infamous
05:55:24 <phenny> "c.1378, from M.L. infamosus, from L. in- 'not' + famosus 'celebrated.' Meaning infl. by L. infamis 'of ill fame,' from in- 'not, without' + fama 'reputation.' As a legal term, 'disqualified from certain rights of citizens in consequence of conviction of a crime' (1395)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=infamous
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05:57:16 <Monty> hi lemonodor, how ya doing?
05:57:17 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
05:57:18 <Monty> What makes you think I am around ?
05:58:03 <bjoern_> around what, Monty?
05:58:04 <Monty> dollars?
05:58:17 <bjoern_> ha, I'm sure you'd like that Monty.
05:58:17 <Monty> In what way ?
05:58:35 <bjoern_> In many ways, Monty. A monetary way among others.
05:58:36 <Monty> try to Wikipedia! :-)
05:58:42 <bjoern_> .wik Monty
05:58:44 <phenny> "Monty, a comic strip." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty
05:58:45 <Monty> plus that Kipling was first young or something
05:58:46 <Monty> their money on "he's got in Arizona and listen."
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06:00:31 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's jetscreamer!
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07:03:33 <bjoern_> ... On March 4, 2004 he published the first of his Memoires called "Memories 1930-1982", they contain memories from the period 1930 to 1982 ...
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07:39:26 <sbp> hehe: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28315
07:39:39 <bjoern_> da boing!
07:40:03 <sbp> d'boing!
07:40:25 <bjoern_> njet bong!
07:40:30 <thelsdj> ba'doing!
07:41:18 <sbp> nice of you to get them flowers at least, bjoern_
07:41:20 <sbp> (http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=692762006)
07:41:22 <sbp> heya thelsdj
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07:42:37 <bjoern_> the onion article is a bit like http://www.ernestcline.com/dmd/ ...
07:42:53 <thelsdj> yo
07:43:12 <sbp> oh this is just funny:
07:43:18 <sbp> <biabot> [a word for: a strong sexual urge] led 208.131.*.* to http://inamidst.com/dict/love
07:43:28 <thelsdj> bjoern_: url seems broken
07:43:37 <thelsdj> ha
07:43:39 <sbp> yeah. "Sorry, that page cannot be found. Try looking here."
07:44:37 <bjoern_> "Page removed due to bandwidth overload." in google cache...
07:44:48 <thelsdj> what was it?
07:45:03 <sbp> nothing in http://web.archive.org/*/http://www.ernestcline.com/dmd/
07:45:08 <thelsdj> oh
07:45:11 <thelsdj> yea i saw that
07:45:22 <thelsdj> dance monkeys dance
07:45:30 <sbp> tell us bjoern_ come on tell us oh please won't you tell us tell us tell us tell us!
07:45:38 <sbp> .g "dance monkeys dance"
07:45:40 <phenny> sbp: http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/~pbang/dance_monkeys.htm
07:45:58 <bjoern_> that sounds like it
07:46:16 <thelsdj> the video is a bit different
07:46:29 <thelsdj> but the speech is the same
07:46:31 <bjoern_> right
07:46:49 <bjoern_> the one above sucks
07:47:02 <thelsdj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7UnHOTnPNk
07:47:04 <thelsdj> that one is good
07:48:26 <bjoern_> that's better indeed
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07:51:04 <thelsdj> i'm loving this studio cyphers alternate reality game, mostly because i managed to solve a bunch of puzzles tonight heh
07:52:00 <sbp> "Victory Welfare"? good grief
07:52:11 * sbp deletes many hundred spam
07:52:54 <sbp> interesting new spam manouevre: send the text as a huge image
07:52:57 * bjoern_ wonders about deleting his latest 80000 ...
07:53:28 <bjoern_> I heard about that, but you'd need HTML or attachments, both of which get filtered out anyway...
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07:54:12 <sbp> best subject so far: "peeping Tom drag race"
07:56:18 <bjoern_> I liked "Macromedia FlashPaper v2.0"
07:56:59 <sbp> FlashPaper!
07:57:14 <sbp> "statue hack" - new from O'Reilly
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08:06:51 <bjoern_> "Lindell added: "In most cases, the dolphins succeeded in finding land mines only when we placed them directly on top of the mines."" -- http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45360
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08:54:17 <sbp> hmm, jing can't read stuff from stdin it seems
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09:20:21 <sbp> odd:
09:20:21 <sbp> >>> import pyrple
09:20:21 <sbp> >>> str(pyrple.namespaces.OWL.equivalentProperty)
09:20:21 <sbp> 'http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#equivalentProperty'
09:20:21 <sbp> >>> '%s' % pyrple.namespaces.OWL.equivalentProperty
09:20:21 <sbp> u'<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#equivalentProperty>'
09:20:23 <sbp> >>>
09:21:28 <bjoern_> odd indeed, what if our understanding of "equivalentProperty" or "owl" changes in 50 years from now?
09:23:17 <sbp> heh, heh
09:23:25 <sbp> then it's date-stamed, so what's the problem?
09:23:31 <sbp> STAMMED
09:23:37 <sbp> STAMMING YOU IN THE FACE
09:24:02 <sbp> .ety owl
09:24:10 <phenny> "O.E. ule, from P.Gmc. *uwwalon (cf. Du. uil, O.H.G. uwila, Ger. Eule, O.N. ugla), a dim. of root *uwwa, which is imitative of an owl's hoot (cf. L. ulula 'owl;' cf. also ululation)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=owl
09:24:43 <sbp> it's of imitative origin?! wow
09:25:18 <sbp> that's very cool
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09:47:30 <bjoern_> @wunder Mannheim
09:47:32 <supybot> bjoern_: The current temperature in Mannheim, Germany is 73.4°F (11:20 AM CEST on May 11, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa.
09:47:42 <bjoern_> @math convert 73.4 F to C
09:47:43 <supybot> bjoern_: 23
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09:47:57 <bjoern_> so I'm hot, not the weather.
10:04:48 <est> :o
10:04:50 <phenny> est: 10 May 12:57Z <sbp> tell est there seems to be a wee problem with his client or connection...
10:05:19 <est> eep..sorry about that
10:05:54 <sbp> no problem, just thought you'd like to know
10:05:59 <sbp> it was getting pretty crazy
10:06:10 <sbp> your client/connection was all:
10:06:17 <sbp> <Client> LOL CONNECTING
10:06:20 <sbp> <Client> LOL DISCONNECTING
10:06:22 <sbp> <Client> LOL CONNECTING
10:06:23 <sbp> <Client> LOL DISCONNECTING
10:06:24 <sbp> <Client> LOL CONNECTING
10:06:25 <sbp> <Client> LOL DISCONNECTING
10:06:30 <sbp> <Client> LOL I NEED BOOZE
10:06:34 <sbp> <Client> LOL CONNECTING
10:07:22 <bjoern_> .cp lol
10:07:25 <phenny> 10464: SHAVIAN LETTER LOLL (𐑤)
10:08:41 <bjoern_> .unihan lol
10:09:16 <bjoern_> U+7321 kDefinition pig; Lolo aboringinal tribe
10:09:21 <bjoern_> U+7380 kDefinition pig; lolo aborginal tribe
10:09:27 <bjoern_> U+7ACF kDefinition kiloliter
10:11:34 <sbp> yeah, unihan would be kinda nice
10:11:47 <sbp> I don't think we'd use it all that much though
10:12:23 <sbp> perhaps jilldaw would?
10:12:36 <sbp> the interface might be kinda hard too
10:13:16 <bjoern_> a simple grep would work okay, no?
10:15:14 <bjoern_> U+4840 kDefinition nude; naked; without a stitch on, to shake; to tremble or shiver; to vibrate
10:17:25 <bjoern_> U+4418 kDefinition to laugh heartily; to roar with laughter, tongue of the cow
10:18:18 <bjoern_> U+41B6 kDefinition noise of a mouse in the cave
10:18:57 <bjoern_> U+424A kDefinition bamboo ware, awning in front of a cart, covering the horse or mule in the shafts; canvas top on vehicles
10:19:40 <bjoern_> U+556B kDefinition (Cant.) interjection of warning; phonetic; penis
10:20:33 <bjoern_> U+5B85 kDefinition residence, dwelling, home; grave
10:21:24 <sbp> oh yeah, I guess so. I was thinking of the nice HTML interface
10:22:33 <bjoern_> <phenny> <font bold><table><centre><tr><td><font +3>U+1331</b>... ?
10:23:25 <bjoern_> U+95AA kDefinition to lose lost item; (Cant.) vagina (vulg.)
10:23:40 <bjoern_> U+95A8 kDefinition small entrance; women's quarters
10:24:06 <bjoern_> <#swhack> a "U+95A5" ;
10:25:25 <bjoern_> .wik 5th terrestrial branch
10:25:47 <phenny> "Balfour Stewart (November 1, 1828 - December 19, 1887), Scottish physicist, was born in Edinburgh, and was educated at the University of Edinburgh." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Stewart
10:27:10 <bjoern_> upon reading the first sentence of some wikipedia article it should be immediately obvious why the article is in wikipedia.
10:28:09 <bjoern_> U+3463 kDefinition stupid; loutish, without ability; unable; lacking power
10:28:32 <bjoern_> .w sobbing
10:28:35 <phenny> sobbing 1. convulsive gasp made while weeping
10:28:38 <phenny> sobbing 2. weep convulsively
10:37:28 <Jibbler> that google trends is pretty neat
10:37:30 <Jibbler> http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4492/picture29ss.jpg
10:39:08 <bjoern_> hmm http://www.google.com/trends?q=porn
10:43:38 <bjoern_> haha http://www.google.com/trends?q=web+architecture
10:45:56 <bjoern_> :-( no .xxx
10:46:40 <bjoern_> .calc 57 / 12
10:46:43 <phenny> 57 / 12 = 4.75
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12:09:57 <sbp> heh, that is pretty cool
12:10:07 <sbp> shame it doesn't go further back and give a bit more quantitativity
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12:43:20 <est> glonk
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13:34:10 <est> sbp: my client wasn't *actually* saying "LOL" etc, was it?
13:34:27 <sbp> no, but the implied undertone was very strong indeed
13:34:45 <Talliesin> lollers
13:34:45 <est> i see
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15:19:05 <sbp> ooh, a command to expand * in Google queries would be neato
15:19:13 <sbp> I just wanted to expand: "let's * the mark" lingo
15:19:19 <sbp> answer: trim
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15:45:02 <redmonk> SWHACK
15:45:19 <redmonk> .gc sig heil
15:45:20 <sbp> .gc highwaypersonship
15:45:21 <phenny> sig heil: 394,000
15:45:24 <phenny> highwaypersonship: 0
15:45:25 <sbp> hey redmonk
15:45:29 <redmonk> yo sbp
15:45:39 <sbp> .g highwaymanship
15:45:41 <sbp> .g highwaymanhood
15:45:42 <phenny> sbp: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11406097681480802154/
15:45:44 <phenny> highwaymanhood: sorry, no results were found.
15:45:44 <sbp> argh
15:45:46 <sbp> .gc highwaymanhood
15:45:49 <phenny> highwaymanhood: 0
15:45:54 <sbp> .gc highwaymanship
15:45:57 <phenny> highwaymanship: 184
15:46:08 <sbp> .gc highwaywoman highwaywomanship highwaywomanhood
15:46:11 <phenny> highwaywoman highwaywomanship highwaywomanhood: 0
15:46:15 <sbp> ...
15:46:18 <sbp> .compare highwaywoman highwaywomanship highwaywomanhood
15:46:21 <phenny> highwaywoman (662), highwaywomanhood (1), highwaywomanship (0)
15:46:29 <sbp> .g highwaywomanhood
15:46:32 <phenny> sbp: http://www.mrsgiggles.com/books/tarr_rogue.html
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15:49:52 <redmonk> sbp: you take a gander at the flash header I had up for a while?
15:49:59 <redmonk> on redmonk.net?
15:50:02 <jsled> Heh [[[ Anyone who looks at the new Audi A3 3.2 DSG and sees an overpriced economy car should not be allowed to play with Rottweiler puppies. ]]]
15:50:13 <jsled> - http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11406097681480802154/
15:51:27 <redmonk> ha! "like a banker and a showgirl itching to strip naked, jump under the hood and put the pro back into in procreative."
15:51:45 *** redmonk changed the topic to: "#swhack: like a banker and a showgirl itching to strip naked, jump under the hood and put the pro back into in procreative!"
15:58:12 <sbp> redmonk: I did indeed!
15:58:17 <redmonk> heh
15:58:19 <redmonk> cool
15:58:46 <redmonk> then my homies were all "that's weird, there's too much whitespace... blah blah"
15:58:52 <redmonk> so i'm going to rework it.
15:59:09 <redmonk> maybe do a series of funky curtins to drop behind it, python-style
15:59:09 <sbp> m'kay
15:59:21 <sbp> I thought the weirdness was sorta the point though
15:59:26 <redmonk> well yeah
15:59:35 <redmonk> i'm defineitelygoing to put it back
15:59:43 <redmonk> but i did not like all the white space either
15:59:48 <sbp> ah
15:59:50 <redmonk> and i was having font issues
16:00:11 <redmonk> getting flash to embed the font made things kinda weird
16:03:14 <Kragen> so jxta doesn't seem to have much adoption
16:03:35 <redmonk> sbp: was it rotating quotes when you saw it?
16:03:41 <redmonk> that was my favorite feature
16:03:46 <Kragen> but decentralized applications are crucially important for the internet to survive ddos and terrorism
16:03:57 <Kragen> is there a better substrate than jxta?
16:06:50 <redmonk> sbp: archived the header here: http://redmonk.net/files/newheader/headerThingy.php
16:07:35 <sbp> cool
16:07:43 <sbp> can't remember if it was rotating quotes
16:07:48 <sbp> all I remember is "OOH THE CRAZY"
16:07:53 <sbp> anyway:
16:07:58 <sbp> what's the word for floating, underwater?
16:08:00 <sbp> is there one?
16:08:18 <redmonk> floating means NOT UNDERWATER< sbp
16:08:38 <redmonk> neutral bouyancy is "not going up OR down, while underwater"
16:09:31 <sbp> yes, that's why I'm asking what the word is
16:10:03 <sbp> neutral buoyancy is a stupid jerk phrase though. I want a single word!
16:10:34 <sbp> this is English we're talking about here. there must *be* a word for it
16:10:43 <sbp> perhaps a thesaurus would be of help here...
16:11:09 <sbp> redmonk: also, floating can mean *on* the water...
16:11:30 <sbp> ah, hover/levitate...
16:11:37 <sbp> yeah, I want the underwater equivalent of hover/levitate
16:11:58 * redmonk NEUTRAL BOUYANCYs sbp in the head
16:12:47 <sbp> BAD
16:14:18 <sbp> Roget's seems to indicate that there isn't a common word for it
16:14:25 <sbp> but I still think there might be one somewhere...
16:15:05 <redmonk> sbp: how many people commonly go about talking about hovering underwater
16:15:11 <redmonk> hmmmmmm?
16:15:22 <sbp> submariners
16:15:29 <redmonk> I SAID NORMAL PEOPLE
16:15:41 <sbp> scuba divers?
16:15:41 <redmonk> NOT NAMOR PEOPLE
16:15:58 <sbp> scuba divers aren't namor people
16:16:29 <redmonk> and scuba divers would probably call it NEUTRAL BOUYANCY
16:16:35 <redmonk> hahahahahheheeheeheehaha
16:16:38 <Morbus> i like ariel
16:16:39 <sbp> yeah, but they're not normal
16:16:45 <Morbus> paaarRRt of this woOOrlrl.d
16:16:53 <sbp> what would she call it?
16:17:54 <redmonk> sbp: why do you need this word?
16:18:05 <sbp> I MUST HAVE IT
16:18:20 <sbp> because it seems like such a simple and common thing
16:18:28 <sbp> yet there is apparently no simple and common word
16:18:35 <sbp> if we had a decent word, maybe we'd talk about it more?
16:18:42 <sbp> it could be used in poetry
16:18:47 <sbp> it could be used in newspaper articles
16:18:53 <sbp> the possibilities are limitless!
16:19:23 <redmonk> poetry+newspapers==LIMITLESS
16:19:43 <sbp> also analogies
16:19:44 <redmonk> i think a google modifiery for poetry would be cool
16:19:51 <sbp> let's call the word "flooting" for now
16:19:58 <redmonk> .g poetry:flooting
16:19:59 <sbp> you could say "it was flooting like a fish in a pond"
16:20:01 <phenny> poetry:flooting: sorry, no results were found.
16:20:20 <redmonk> quick, sbp, write a poem with flooting int i
16:20:21 <redmonk> it
16:20:28 <sbp> okay, hang on
16:20:58 <sbp> May is upon on! / Warm air hangs around like fish / Flooting in the sea
16:21:06 <sbp> er, May is upon us
16:21:19 <sbp> canonical version:
16:21:21 <redmonk> oh, a haiku noless. nice
16:21:32 <sbp> May is upon us! / Warm air hangs around like fish / flooting in the sea
16:21:54 <sbp> it's the easiest form of poetry :-)
16:22:02 <sbp> especially to bang out on IRC
16:22:05 <redmonk> heh
16:22:45 <redmonk> of all forms of verse / haiku is the easiest / to IRC with
16:22:56 <sbp> nice
16:23:37 <sbp> redmonk your haiku / could make dogs ejaculate / from a hundred yards
16:24:43 * redmonk shudders
16:26:04 <bancus> is that a compliment?
16:26:38 <redmonk> banker and showgirl / hot and heavy yes yes yes / this is like teh swack
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16:26:52 <sbp> bancus: it was supposed to be. I think
16:27:02 <bancus> k
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16:27:53 * redmonk giggles
16:28:57 <xerox> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=143645730&size=o
16:30:16 <sbp> heh
16:30:22 <sbp> xerox: hello, welcome to Swhack
16:30:28 <xerox> Hello you!
16:30:37 <sbp> this is a publically logged channel so be careful not to do things like you just did
16:30:54 <sbp> more information at swhack.com but you probably know that or have been given this introduction before
16:31:00 <redmonk> so now you can bend over and kiss your political career goodbye
16:31:12 <sbp> hmm... #verbament...
16:31:13 <xerox> What's the problem with publicly logged channels?
16:31:21 <sbp> isn't that verbosus's channel?
16:31:24 <JibberJim> pictures of red faced men performing magic tricks can harm political careers?
16:31:25 <xerox> Right :-)
16:31:39 <sbp> the problem is that you might say something that can destroy your future potential political career, yeah
16:31:54 <sbp> JibberJim: well it's magical porn, really, innit?
16:32:03 <JibberJim> .gc "magical porn"
16:32:05 <xerox> No worries, NDAs save your soul.
16:32:08 <phenny> "magical porn": 64
16:32:08 <sbp> or at least, it would be in the Sun
16:32:20 <redmonk> or, if like most of us you have a penchant for disdain for the political class, then go right ahead
16:32:21 <Talliesin> It's what threatened Prescott's career, but he managed to smokescreen it with lesser scandals.
16:32:31 <sbp> exactly. chuckle
16:40:51 <sbp> okay, I'm working on a new thing and I need to name it
16:41:00 <redmonk> ooooh, fun!
16:41:23 * redmonk coasts on his raving success with Infogami
16:41:26 <sbp> this might turn out to be a quite significant project, for me at least, so any suggestions might get into the realm of reasonably well known (on the order of pyrple, say...)
16:41:29 <sbp> yes! that was awesome
16:41:39 <sbp> so I kinda need something that awesome :-)
16:41:43 <sbp> basic requirements:
16:41:44 <redmonk> lol
16:41:54 <sbp> * has to be a single word, though I might stretch to a double word
16:41:59 <sbp> * has to be clean and easy to say
16:42:14 <sbp> * would preferably be based on mythology, elements, etc., a bit like most people's hostnames
16:42:20 <redmonk> SHITFACEDBABOON
16:42:24 <sbp> * fairly uncommonly used if possible
16:42:26 <sbp> hehe
16:42:33 <redmonk> oh, he said clean
16:42:34 <redmonk> dammit
16:42:35 <sbp> * CLEAN
16:42:47 <redmonk> ok, what's the project
16:42:52 <redmonk> or, enough about it for context
16:43:13 <sbp> examples of existing names that are cool and along these lines: Turtle, Atom, Lua. they're short, clean, nice. actually all three are a bit too common for my liking
16:43:40 <sbp> I actually think context would hurt the naming process
16:43:44 <redmonk> ok
16:43:56 <sbp> because you'd just think of existing things along the same lines
16:44:00 <redmonk> any particular branch of mythology?
16:44:02 <sbp> that's what I'm doing, and it's annoying
16:44:06 <sbp> so that's why I'm asking here
16:44:19 <sbp> well, I think Greek is quite good because the words are generally quite smooth
16:44:23 <sbp> Hyperion is quite nice, but hmm
16:44:28 <sbp> .gc hyperion
16:44:31 <phenny> hyperion: 20,900,000
16:44:32 <sbp> oh, and obviously:
16:44:38 <sbp> * not already being used for a similar sort of thing
16:44:41 <sbp> that I'll have to check
16:44:55 <redmonk> Argo
16:44:58 <redmonk> .gc argo
16:45:00 <phenny> argo: 13,100,000
16:45:05 <redmonk> less!
16:45:07 <sbp> that's actually pretty good
16:45:07 <redmonk> teh w00t
16:45:32 <sbp> .compare Turtle Atom Lua Hyperion Neutrino
16:45:33 <redmonk> i'm not a fan of the hard go though
16:45:36 <phenny> Atom (230,000,000), Turtle (60,500,000), Hyperion (20,900,000), Lua (19,800,000), Neutrino (13,000,000)
16:45:39 <redmonk> er, hard g
16:45:55 <redmonk> Arho
16:46:13 <redmonk> sort of "greek-name-mangled-by-portoguese"
16:46:23 <sbp> it makes me think of Argo Navis, the old contellation
16:46:37 <sbp> could be a good logo
16:47:28 <redmonk> http://www.wildcard-innovations.com.au/
16:47:48 <sbp> sweet
16:48:11 <redmonk> i prefer a name that is "almost" like somehting familiar
16:48:19 <redmonk> http://www.argonavisusa.com/
16:48:45 <sbp> argona?
16:48:56 <redmonk> still not a hard 'g' fan
16:48:59 <sbp> looking less neat, yeah
16:49:05 <sbp> arhona! :-)
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16:50:25 <redmonk> lol
16:50:27 <redmonk> Bacchus!
16:50:32 <DrBacchus> redmonk!
16:50:51 <redmonk> a name based on greek mythology for sbp
16:51:12 <sbp> hehe
16:51:20 <sbp> too hard, again
16:51:23 <redmonk> yeah
16:51:41 <sbp> I like letters like "t" and "a" and "o" and "u" and "n" for this
16:51:54 <sbp> judging from my little "good names" list above
16:52:22 <redmonk> atoun
16:52:29 <redmonk> it's perfect!
16:52:30 <sbp> heh, heh
16:52:38 <sbp> anotu
16:52:51 <redmonk> onatu
16:53:03 <redmonk> p still prefer arho or atoun
16:53:14 <redmonk> atoun has a vaguely plolynesian effect
16:53:19 <redmonk> .g atoun
16:53:21 <phenny> redmonk: http://atoun.co.za/
16:53:36 <redmonk> .gc atoun
16:53:39 <phenny> atoun: 12,800
16:53:43 <redmonk> not bad
16:53:45 <sbp> I just did egrep '^[anotu]{4,7}$' on my wordlist
16:53:51 <sbp> the resulting list was Not Good
16:54:03 <sbp> atoun is kinda hard to remember
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16:54:19 <sbp> people would go "hey, check out atonu" and "check out atuno" and stuff
16:54:42 <redmonk> tanou
16:54:45 <redmonk> .gc tanou
16:54:48 <phenny> tanou: 45,200
16:55:04 <sbp> I should just use infogami. it's your word, so you can wrestle it off of AaronSw and give it to me right? :-)
16:55:36 <redmonk> sorry
16:55:42 <sbp> aww
16:55:49 <sbp> ooh, PANGYA!
16:55:52 <redmonk> i don't play the asame song twice
16:55:53 <sbp> hehe, that'd be funny
16:56:10 <sbp> I'll bet you've played REM songs literally thousands of times!
16:56:22 <redmonk> not what i meant
16:56:24 <redmonk> hahaha
16:56:25 <sbp> heh, heh
16:56:30 <sbp> I still quite like Argo, you know
16:56:40 <redmonk> yeah, that's not bad
16:56:47 <redmonk> that or a close derivative would be good
16:57:16 <cori[s]> argo reminds me of argot (maybe that's not bad)
16:57:24 <redmonk> arno
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16:58:21 <sbp> .w argot
16:58:24 <phenny> argot 1. a characteristic language of a particular group (as among thieves)
16:58:28 <sbp> .w argon
16:58:31 <phenny> argon 1. a colorless and odorless inert gas
16:59:08 <DrBacchus> argonaut
16:59:23 <DrBacchus> o/~ After killing Jason off, and countless screaming argonauts! o/~
16:59:46 <sbp> yeah, probably not so good there
16:59:51 <sbp> oh, flower names might work too
17:00:23 <sbp> primrose. okay, maybe not
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17:00:34 <DrBacchus> dogwood
17:00:36 <sbp> madewokherd: quick! think of a name!
17:00:46 <sbp> heh. dogwood is good because it reminds me of dogberry
17:00:48 <madewokherd> what?
17:00:52 <madewokherd> I lost my name generator
17:00:53 <sbp> think of a name!
17:00:58 <sbp> noooOOooOooOo!
17:01:16 <sbp> it has to be short, mythological, clean, catchy, not all that common
17:01:25 <redmonk> Ajax!
17:01:30 <sbp> examples: Turtle, Lua, Atom, Hyperion, Neutrino
17:01:30 <madewokherd> ...
17:01:31 * redmonk rofls
17:01:35 <sbp> BAD
17:01:49 <sbp> Ajax is a good example of the principle though
17:02:00 <sbp> it's a complete pile of bullshit but because it has an awesome name...
17:02:00 <madewokherd> [[List of Lists]]
17:02:16 <sbp> [[LOL]]
17:02:23 <redmonk> so now we have to nams sbp's pile of bullshit
17:02:31 <sbp> yeah. name my bullshit! name it!
17:02:55 <sbp> I'm going to write to the Swhack list
17:03:09 * madewokherd looks at the names in Celtic mythology
17:04:37 * madewokherd randomly picks "Gwenn Teir Bronn"
17:04:53 <sbp> hmm
17:04:54 <redmonk> Teir has potential
17:05:00 <sbp> yeah, was just thinking that
17:05:14 <madewokherd> I thought it was a stupid choice4
17:05:30 * redmonk does "v-fingers between sbp's eyes and his own"
17:05:32 <madewokherd> but pseudo-random number genrators are sometimes right
17:06:22 <redmonk> .wn teir
17:06:26 <phenny> I couldn't find 'teir' in WordNet.
17:06:32 <redmonk> .g teir
17:06:35 <phenny> redmonk: http://www.elfquest.com/pubs/bios/GoBacks/Teir.html
17:06:39 <redmonk> heh
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17:07:50 <mzeltner> Evening
17:07:54 <sbp> okay, written to the list
17:07:57 <sbp> hello eaon!
17:08:01 <sbp> quick, think of a name!
17:08:11 <mzeltner> Quirine
17:08:18 <sbp> ... not bad!
17:08:22 <sbp> see http://lists.swhack.com/swhack/2006-May/000072
17:09:26 <redmonk> hey, if it is infogami-rdf-ish, queri mihgt be good
17:09:33 <redmonk> Queri
17:09:41 <sbp> nope, but that's very awesome
17:09:42 <mzeltner> Just received the mail
17:09:48 <sbp> it'd be a good name for a SPARQL engine
17:09:52 * madewokherd has never heard of pyrple
17:09:58 <sbp> mzeltner: oh you're subscribed? excellent
17:10:06 <sbp> madewokherd: yeah, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek
17:10:26 <mzeltner> Yeah, since just a few hours after it was started :)
17:10:33 <sbp> neato
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17:12:39 <redmonk> "Migt"
17:12:47 <sbp> Migt?
17:12:48 <redmonk> thats fun to say
17:12:50 <sbp> .wik Migt
17:12:51 <madewokherd> I can't figure out how to pronounce that
17:12:59 <sbp> me neither
17:13:02 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Migt".
17:13:02 <sbp> migged? myte?
17:13:05 <mzeltner> Same here
17:13:06 <redmonk> M-short-i-hard-g-t
17:13:25 <madewokherd> mikt?
17:13:33 <redmonk> migged but sharpen the ed to a t
17:13:42 <redmonk> yeah, like mikt
17:13:44 <sbp> right
17:13:51 <sbp> perhaps Miggt then?
17:13:58 <redmonk> ohhh, i like
17:14:02 <sbp> would make it a bit clearer that it's not a homonym for might
17:14:26 <redmonk> it's also somehtihg that can't be mistaken for another word
17:14:26 <sbp> I don't like it because it's not got many vowels. it's hard rather than clean
17:14:43 <sbp> it's fun though. I think it'd be good as a font name
17:14:48 <sbp> Miggt
17:14:52 <redmonk> so you'd have to ask - "sounds interesting, how do you spell it?
17:14:53 <sbp> yeah. use Miggt 10pt
17:14:55 <sbp> hehe
17:14:57 <redmonk> heh
17:15:24 <redmonk> yeah but it actually works well in sentences: "have you tried miggt yet?"
17:15:31 <sbp> body { font: 1em Miggt; }
17:15:50 <redmonk> "you've been sent a miggt-vitation!"
17:15:51 <sbp> try actually saying it. it's kinda difficult :-)
17:16:11 <sbp> like mbembe or something African looking. lots o' consonants together
17:16:23 <redmonk> miggt.ot.com
17:16:24 <sbp> actually, mbembe is awesome...
17:16:29 <sbp> ot.com?
17:16:40 <redmonk> sounds like "miggt-dot-com"
17:16:42 <redmonk> hehe
17:17:04 <redmonk> ok, i'll let miggt go
17:18:43 <redmonk> how is mbembe pronounced?
17:18:48 <redmonk> m-bem-be?
17:18:53 <redmonk> or mem-be
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17:18:55 <sbp> someone just suggested onuta. I think I'm banning [anotu]+
17:19:01 <sbp> jcowan! OMG NAMING!
17:19:10 <sbp> redmonk: yeah, I say muh-bem-bay
17:19:17 <sbp> muh-BEM-bay
17:19:19 <jcowan> What say you to "Tarson"?
17:19:29 <sbp> Tarson... I rather like that actually
17:19:31 <sbp> .wik Tarson
17:19:35 <phenny> "Hank Hightower is an American pornographic actor (porn star) who appeared in gay pornographic movies." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Hightower
17:19:42 <redmonk> LOLOL
17:19:51 <jcowan> .gc Tarson
17:19:54 <phenny> Tarson: 42,900
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17:20:10 <jcowan> Athame also came to mind.
17:20:21 <sbp> okay, I'm done laughing at Hank Hightower. hehe. whoops, there was a bit more
17:20:25 <sbp> Athame is also excellent!
17:20:38 <sbp> Argo, Tarson, and Athame are easily the best three so far
17:20:40 <jcowan> Dane Tarson/Tarsen has been in, like, three movies.
17:20:53 <jcowan> .wik Athame
17:21:01 <phenny> "Athame, athamé or arthame is what some practitioners of ritual magic call their ceremonial knives." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athame
17:21:02 <redmonk> i find uh-th-aime awkward
17:21:19 <redmonk> also aah-th-aim
17:21:21 <sbp> hmm, yeah, not even listed in http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Dane+Tarson
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17:21:35 <sbp> so whence Tarson? what's a "Tarson"? or is it a neologism?
17:22:10 <sbp> someone just suggested Alfur, which is quite nice I think. a bit kinda medieval
17:22:26 <jcowan> ATH-um.
17:22:27 <sbp> reminds me of Elfur, and old acquaintance of Morbus and mine
17:22:45 <sbp> jcowan: oh that's good, it means I get to be picky about the pronunciation
17:22:50 <sbp> like PNG and LaTeX
17:23:07 <redmonk> there's something to be picky about PNG?
17:23:15 <redmonk> i mean, it's PiNG, right?
17:23:26 <jsled> And sysop
17:23:33 <jewel> is there a way to publish a blog entry from Emacs to Wordpress?
17:23:41 <jsled> w3m-mode? :)
17:23:42 <redmonk> i imagine so
17:23:45 <sbp> yeah, but people who didn't know would say Pee Enn Gee
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17:23:52 <sbp> .g emacs Wordpress
17:23:54 <phenny> sbp: http://wordpress.org/development/2005/08/one-five-two/
17:24:09 <jsled> (or just 'w3m', I guess)
17:24:11 <redmonk> athm
17:24:14 <redmonk> ATHM
17:24:21 <sbp> jewel: ah, here we go http://gnuvince.net/?p=31
17:24:30 <redmonk> minimism at the extreme
17:24:31 * jcowan says P-N-G and Sequel.
17:24:47 <jcowan> But some say ATH-um-AY, too.
17:24:54 * redmonk says ping, sequel, and u-r-l
17:24:59 <jcowan> The word has spread in print.
17:25:09 * jcowan says Earl but "You are I"
17:25:18 <jcowan> as opposed to Yuri.
17:25:27 * Morbus says ping, both sequel and S-Q-L, and U-R-L.
17:25:42 * jsled is a Morbus.
17:25:47 * redmonk gasps
17:25:56 <redmonk> THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
17:25:57 * Morbus says "oui" and gu-oui
17:25:58 <jcowan> In particular, "MySQL" is "my-sequel" to me, and nemmind if that makes me a R.O.F.
17:26:11 <jcowan> THERE IS ONLY ONE
17:26:13 <jcowan> AND HE IS
17:26:14 <redmonk> r.o.f.?
17:26:15 <jcowan> TEH MORBUS
17:26:18 <Morbus> ROWR
17:26:20 * jcowan snickers.
17:26:20 <sbp> I say Ping to people but P-N-G in my head, My S-Q-L, U-R-L, U-R-I, and now Foafe, but I used to say F-O-A-F
17:26:23 <jcowan> Registered Old Fart.
17:26:29 <sbp> ROF? L
17:26:29 <Morbus> i've always said foafe.
17:26:35 <redmonk> ah.
17:26:40 * redmonk says mysequel
17:26:46 <sbp> yeah, F-O-A-F is kinda stupid
17:26:46 <Morbus> heathen!
17:26:53 <jewel> if you use emacs with multiple displays, can you see the other guy's cursor?
17:26:59 * jcowan says Relax En Gee, not Relaxing, but Hotel Baltimore, not Hot Ell.
17:27:03 <Morbus> interestingly, i say mysequel and my-s-q-l, but I *always* say postgres-Q-L
17:27:24 * redmonk drops the QL on postgres
17:27:26 <jsled> well, of course. "postgressequel" is just weird.
17:27:31 <jcowan> I never refer to Postgresql viva voce anyhow.
17:27:40 <jcowan> And it took me about six tries to spell it.
17:27:40 * Morbus says "gif" not "jif" and "jaypeg"
17:27:46 <jcowan> Ghiff, definitely.
17:27:51 <sbp> yeah, ghiff
17:27:56 * redmonk ghiff and jaypeg as well
17:28:05 <sbp> yup, jaypeg here too
17:28:07 <Morbus> what about GUI and UI?
17:28:10 * redmonk wil;l word-ze anything if he can, except, weirdly, URL
17:28:12 <jsled> nope. it's 'gif'.
17:28:13 <jcowan> Gooey and You I.
17:28:14 <Morbus> my argument is based upon the french sounding "oui"
17:28:15 <sbp> gooey, sadly. I kinda hate it
17:28:20 <sbp> You-I
17:28:20 * redmonk dittos jcowan
17:28:31 <Morbus> oui and gwee
17:28:37 <jcowan> Except when talking about Bernardo Gui.
17:28:50 <jcowan> Someone should name a GUI library "Bernardo" some day.
17:28:54 <Morbus> or, if you're supa hip, wii and gwii
17:28:56 <redmonk> nice
17:30:07 <jcowan> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0850712/ <-- Dane Tarson
17:31:05 * jcowan also says "long-lyved" and "short-lyved".
17:31:13 <sbp> heh. Blow Hard
17:31:21 <sbp> wonder if there was a Blow Hard 2
17:31:49 <sbp> hmm
17:31:49 <sbp> Tarso- \Tar"so-\
17:31:49 <sbp> A combining form used in anatomy to indicate connection with,
17:31:49 <sbp> or relation to, the tarsus; as, tarsometatarsus.
17:31:49 <sbp> [1913 Webster]
17:32:31 <sbp> alva?
17:32:45 <sbp> "The Swedish älvor[S-1] (sing. älva) were stunningly beautiful girls who lived in the forest with an elven king." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elves
17:32:49 <sbp> technically a:lva then
17:33:07 * redmonk can't escape the idea that Tarson is some comic ret-conning of tazan
17:33:10 <redmonk> tarzan
17:33:39 * jcowan pokes around for that excellent meaning-of-names site he found a while back.
17:33:50 <jcowan> [[[
17:33:51 <jcowan> Every sex scene is a perfectly formed miniature movie all by itself with great chemistry between the gorgeous performers at all times. A personal fave has to be the last sex scene but one, a scorching threeway with bald, dirty-talking Max Stone as its radiant center, the closest gay viewers will ever get to see Vin Diesel do hardcore. Yummie !
17:34:04 <jcowan> ]]] --IMDB review of another Dane Tarson movie, Night Walk.
17:34:08 <redmonk> very scary
17:34:37 <sbp> .gc yummy yummie
17:34:39 <phenny> yummy yummie: 38,300
17:34:55 <xerox> Garbage Collect?
17:35:25 <jcowan> Google Count, xerox.
17:35:55 <xerox> Cunts.
17:36:34 <sbp> .compare yummy yummie
17:36:37 <phenny> yummy (25,900,000), yummie (527,000)
17:37:07 <xerox> (-:
17:37:57 <aeonite> http://tinyurl.com/hzps2
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17:46:34 <Morbus> i hateess tiny urls.
17:47:14 <aeonite> but it went from 124 characters to 24! that's much better for the internets
17:47:24 <jcowan> There should be a way of finding out what a tinyurl is without actually GETting it.
17:47:27 <jcowan> hmm
17:47:37 <jcowan> .head http://tinyurl.com/6
17:47:40 <phenny> Status: 301 (for more, try ".head uri header")
17:48:00 <sbp> .head http://tinyurl.com/6 Location
17:48:03 <phenny> Location: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?ovi=1&mqmap.x=300&mqmap.y=75&mapdata=%252bKZmeiIh6N%252bIgpXRP3bylMaN0O4z8OOUkZWYe7NRH6ldDN96YFTIUmSH3Q6OzE5XVqcuc5zb%252fY5wy1MZwTnT2pu%252bNMjOjsHjvNlygTRMzqazPStrN%252f1YzA0oWEWLwkHdhVHeG9sG6cMrfXNJKHY6fML4o6Nb0SeQm75ET9jAjKelrmqBCNta%252bsKC9n8jslz%252fo188N4g3BvAJYuzx8J8r%252f1fPFWkPYg%252bT9Su5KoQ9YpNSj%252bmo0h0aEK%252bofj3f6vCP
17:48:06 <jcowan> Bingo.
17:48:17 <jcowan> So at least you can tell if you're being sent to whitehouse.com or what not.
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17:48:24 <sbp> I'd like a service which did something like:
17:48:38 <sbp> http://lol.com/mapquest.com-587
17:48:54 <sbp> perhaps increment the number in base32
17:49:51 <Morbus> well, that's handy to now.
17:49:54 <Morbus> *know.
17:50:21 <Morbus> aeonite: i disagree entirely!
17:51:35 <DrBacchus> Morbus: My, aren't you disagreeable?
17:51:46 <Morbus> I AM NOT >_<
17:52:01 <Morbus> one of these days, i'll send these contracts to you.
17:52:12 <DrBacchus> No hurry.
17:52:21 <DrBacchus> The sooner you send them, the sooner I have to start working it.
17:52:33 <Morbus> same here.
17:52:41 <Morbus> i got a baby coming in like 14 days now.
17:52:46 <Morbus> writing a book is the last thing on my mind.
17:53:29 <aeonite> I wish I had a baby to use as an excuse for not writing
17:53:37 <jessica> How's your girl feeling, Morby?
17:53:45 <jessica> She's got to be exhausted, cranky, and unable to turn over in bed by this point.
17:53:49 <Morbus> crampy, but chipper.
17:53:51 * jessica remembers the feeling well.
17:53:56 <jessica> is she nesting?
17:54:08 <Morbus> mmhmm
17:54:20 <jessica> hey, the house is getting clean for the last time. ever. take a look around.
17:55:37 <aeonite> What frustrates me most of all is I've got two outstanding offers to propose books to write for two different publishers
17:55:45 <aeonite> And I can't think of a damn thing to pitch
17:55:52 <Morbus> ghyll!
17:56:00 <jcowan> jessica: Does that mean you are burning it down next week?
17:56:18 <jessica> oh! not mine.
17:56:26 <jessica> I'm referring to Morbus's woman nesting.
17:56:28 <DrBacchus> I've got 4 friken books that I have to do in the next like zero time.
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17:56:39 <jessica> I'm working on cleaning mine, but it's slow. :
17:56:57 * jcowan nods.
17:57:20 * jcowan long ago gave up and submitted to the last bastion of the bourgeoisie, the woman-who-comes-in-once-a-week-to-clean.
17:58:48 <jessica> Yes, but I have to tidy the place somewhat first.
17:59:00 <jessica> Two years of incapacitating illness == tons of clutter to sort.
17:59:34 <DrBacchus> I need one of those.
17:59:49 <jcowan> Who would dare show anything but chipperness, face to face with Teh Morbus day and night? Why, he'd take you to court for unfair competition.
17:59:52 <DrBacchus> The woman-who-comes-in-once-a-week, not the clutter.
18:00:09 * jcowan has both.
18:00:14 <jessica> I remember a friend from alt.tasteless who once calculated that he would come out ahead by hiring a maid and a prostitute twice a week, in terms of economic expenditure.
18:00:37 <jessica> I'm not sure why I disclosed that in a forum Mr. Schmidt can read.
18:01:52 <JibberJim> well it's easy to prove you're better value
18:01:59 <JibberJim> just clean the house twice a week
18:02:18 <jcowan> "Men aren't paying you for sex. They're paying you to go away afterward." --variously attributed
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18:03:42 <jcowan> Why do publishers ask authors to propose books. And please don't give general answers like "They're fuckwads." Lots of businesspeople are fuckwads, but when they want something done for which they will pay, they generally issue a fairly specific RFP.
18:03:46 <jcowan> s/books./books?
18:04:03 <jessica> Because they're used to selling products, not ideas.
18:04:08 <jessica> Authors sell ideas.
18:05:27 <jcowan> The one and only time I set out to write a geek book, the publisher came to me and said "We want a book like this [hands me a 750-page monstrosity] but more comprehensive."
18:05:59 <jcowan> I took the advance, struggled with the damn thing for six months, turned in fifty pages, and said farewell to the life of an author.
18:06:38 <jcowan> So what I was selling was not idea but execution, and I found I couldn't execute.
18:07:06 <jcowan> I struggled for a while about returning the advance, but finally decided not to. They eventually stopped sending me royalty statements with negative numbers on them.
18:07:41 <jessica> [[[
18:07:43 <jessica> Like all thoroughbreds, Lost in the Fog is the product of careful breedingâhorse racing's time-honored eugenics programânot to mention untold millions in breeding and training fees. If his stardom persists for another few years, he will retire to a blessed life of very lucrative humping. In other sectors of life, we call these creatures "Kennedys."
18:07:48 <jessica> ]]]
18:07:57 <jessica> http://www.slate.com/id/2129382/
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18:14:07 <xerox> What was your geeky book?
18:14:48 <aeonite> I actually pitched them an idea and they wrangled over it for a few months and decided they couldn't sell it, and encouraged me to go to another publisher
18:15:03 <aeonite> But by then I was knee deep in Ninja Burger and had no time to write a book anyway
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18:17:15 <jcowan> Basically it was All About XML back in the days when such an idea made some sense. Unfortunately, things were changing faster than I could write about them.
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18:31:26 <aeonite> I just reviewed a book for Slashdot that's got that problem
18:32:08 <jcowan> I reviewed a book for Those Who Must Not Be Named that had that problem.
18:32:42 <jcowan> What's worse, it was a translation from the German, and was full of really disastrous mistranslations, the kind that make the wrong sense instead of nonsense.
18:36:18 <sbp> .compare nonsense wrongsense
18:36:26 <phenny> nonsense (65,000,000), wrongsense (19)
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18:46:23 <AaronSw> I give in.
18:46:42 * GabeW welcomes back AaronSw with open arms
18:47:09 <AaronSw> oops, wrong channel
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18:47:38 <GabeW> ouch
18:47:40 <GabeW> i'm insulted
18:47:41 <redmonk> ok, that was weird
18:47:49 <GabeW> yes
18:47:55 <redmonk> too good for the likes of swhack now, huh
18:48:00 <GabeW> and we were here to witness it
18:48:01 <sbp> bwahahaha
18:49:25 <jcowan> He was invited to #d8uv.com
18:50:08 <aeonite> .compare ninja ninjas
18:50:11 <phenny> ninja (60,200,000), ninjas (8,200,000)
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18:52:32 <Monty> bah, it's tav_ again
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19:11:56 <Kragen> hi aaron!
19:12:08 <sbp> Kragen: see #d8uv.com
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20:28:26 * bancus is curious about what kind of girl this guy is fucking that they might get turned on by the statement "I wanna ride you like my motorbike"
20:29:41 <bancus> I'm not sure whether I feel sorry for the girl or the bike.
20:29:47 <bancus> He's clearly not doing one of them right.
20:29:57 <Ash> or what kind of motorbike he is riding
20:30:03 <Ash> YOU MUST CALL IT A.. SEX.. BICYCLE
20:30:34 <bancus> he also talks about how he loves eating pussy he's gonna do it for the rest of his life, even after his teeth fall out, he'll gum her to death
20:30:37 <bancus> that's just scary
20:31:05 <bancus> .g lyrics "kottonmouth kings" "let's fuck"
20:31:08 <phenny> bancus: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Let's-Fuck-lyrics-Kottonmouth-Kings/DB5AE1E2AAC9B7DA48256E87000609CD
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20:48:22 <aeonite> .g lyrics goldfrapp twist
20:48:25 <phenny> aeonite: http://lyrics.duble.com/lyrics/G/goldfrapp-lyrics/goldfrapp-twist-lyrics.htm
21:03:40 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
21:03:40 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 9, 7, 9, 8, 2. Your target is 872. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
21:03:58 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (9+8)*50
21:03:58 <Monty> bjoern_: 850
21:04:10 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
21:04:12 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 28 solutions in about 195 milliseconds.
21:04:12 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (9+8)*50 + 2 + 9 + 7
21:04:13 <Monty> ibot (50*2 + 9)*8
21:04:15 <Monty> bjoern_: 868
21:04:24 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
21:04:24 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 2, 3, 8, 1, 8. Your target is 719. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
21:04:50 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 3*(8+2)*25 - 8
21:04:50 <Monty> bjoern_: 742
21:04:54 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
21:04:56 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
21:05:01 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 3*(8+2)*(25-1)
21:05:02 <Monty> bjoern_: 720
21:07:04 <bjoern_> Monty MOnty MONty MONTy MONTY mONTY moNTY monTY montY monty!
21:07:11 <Monty> (just a substantial benefit to selling products, not the process of very lucrative humping. In other sectors of ethics using change soon
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21:08:28 <phenny> Thu, 11 May 2006 12:55:15 PST
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22:20:41 <Monty> bah, it's libby again
22:21:15 <thelsdj> anyone make anything of the name 'Schyler Mond' ie, what country/language or hidden meaning it might have?
22:22:29 <aeonite> Monde is french for world
22:22:54 <aeonite> Schyler is Danish
22:23:07 <thelsdj> hrm
22:23:24 <thelsdj> mystery
22:25:06 <thelsdj> schyler mond is the name of someone who may be a bad guy in the alternate reality game i'm playing
22:25:54 <aeonite> http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=schyler+mond
22:25:56 <thelsdj> he's into E-Prime and old fiction like 'the jungle', 'heart of darkness' and 'frankenstein'
22:26:00 <thelsdj> yea i looked at that :)
22:26:18 <aeonite> demon schylr
22:27:59 <bjoern_> Mond is german for moon...
22:28:36 <thelsdj> shit, wonder if he's a werewolf
22:28:47 <thelsdj> we are searching for a missing cryptozoologist
22:28:52 <aeonite> Schuyler is the more common spelling
22:29:38 <aeonite> Catharina Schuyler
22:29:38 <aeonite> | - Ignatz Du Mond
22:29:42 <aeonite> http://users.crocker.com/~jcamp/jvsfam.html
22:30:26 <aeonite> http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/Schuyler/surnames.htm has Schuyler, De Wolf and Du Mond on the same page
22:31:28 <thelsdj> based on same data
22:31:55 <thelsdj> also i need to figure out how to get in contact with these damn goat suckers
22:36:48 <mzeltner> Night everyone
22:37:10 <aeonite> well the obvious solution is to find a goat
22:37:14 <aeonite> and then suck it
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22:46:40 <thelsdj> aeonite: true, though theres a particular group of chupacabra we're supposed to get in contact with
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23:01:12 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:01:12 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 10, 4, 2, 2, 6. Your target is 939. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:01:30 <bjoern_> Monty, (50-2)*10*2
23:01:33 <Monty> But some the advance, but that problem
23:01:34 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (50-2)*10*2
23:01:34 <Monty> bjoern_: 960
23:01:40 <thelsdj> that ones not possible
23:01:42 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:01:43 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
23:01:50 <thelsdj> no odd numbers
23:01:58 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (50-2)*10*2 - 4*6
23:01:59 <Monty> bjoern_: 936
23:02:04 <thelsdj> oh gues syou could divide 6 by 2
23:02:06 <bjoern_> but I'm close...
23:02:13 <thelsdj> yea pretty close
23:02:17 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:02:17 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 1, 7, 2, 9, 1. Your target is 656. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:02:32 <thelsdj> .calc 25*(7+9)
23:02:33 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (2*9+7)*25
23:02:34 <Monty> bjoern_: 625
23:02:34 <phenny> 25 * (7 + 9) = 400
23:02:47 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:02:49 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (2*9+7)*(25 + 1 + 1)
23:02:49 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
23:02:49 <thelsdj> .calc 25*(7+9+1)
23:02:50 <Monty> bjoern_: 675
23:02:52 <phenny> 25 * (7 + 9 + 1) = 425
23:02:59 <thelsdj> bah
23:03:01 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:03:02 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 3, 2, 9, 1, 8. Your target is 447. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:03:12 <MoiraA> too difficult for him :)
23:03:14 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (2*9*25)
23:03:14 <Monty> bjoern_: 450
23:03:16 <thelsdj> .calc (25*(8+9)
23:03:17 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (2*9*25) - 3
23:03:18 <Monty> bjoern_: 447
23:03:20 <phenny> 25 * (8 + 9) = 425
23:03:29 <thelsdj> .calc (25*(8+9+1))-3
23:03:31 <phenny> (25 * (8 + 9 + 1)) - 3 = 447
23:03:32 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:03:33 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 23 milliseconds. I found all 116 solutions in about 211 milliseconds.
23:03:35 <Monty> ibot (9 + 1 + 8)*25 - 3
23:03:49 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:03:49 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 2, 8, 5, 5, 8. Your target is 720. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:03:51 <thelsdj> same solution as monty hehe
23:03:53 <Monty> events add time to spell it.
23:04:01 <bjoern_> he copies mine a lot...
23:04:06 <thelsdj> .calc 50*(8+8)
23:04:08 <phenny> 50 * (8 + 8) = 800
23:04:19 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:04:21 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 2 milliseconds. I found all 168 solutions in about 208 milliseconds.
23:04:21 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (8+5)*50
23:04:22 <Monty> ibot (2*5 + 8)*5*8
23:04:24 <Monty> bjoern_: 650
23:04:38 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:04:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 2, 1, 7, 4, 4. Your target is 635. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:04:43 <thelsdj> .calc 50*(8+5+2)+(8*5)
23:04:46 <phenny> (50 * (8 + 5 + 2)) + (8 * 5) = 790
23:04:53 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 25^2
23:04:53 <Monty> bjoern_: 625
23:05:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:05:10 <Monty> Oh bugger, I don't think I can solve that one!
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23:05:24 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:05:24 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 3, 6, 8, 4, 1. Your target is 650. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:05:41 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 6*4*25
23:05:41 <Monty> bjoern_: 600
23:05:54 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:05:56 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 11 milliseconds. I found all 203 solutions in about 205 milliseconds.
23:05:57 <Monty> ibot (8*4 - 6)*25
23:06:21 <bjoern_> Monty, calc (6*4 + 3 - 1)*25
23:06:21 <Monty> bjoern_: 650
23:06:35 <bjoern_> I couldn't figure out where to place the + :(
23:06:41 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:06:41 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 3, 7, 4, 5, 10. Your target is 900. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:07:11 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:07:13 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 5 milliseconds. I found all 274 solutions in about 189 milliseconds.
23:07:14 <Monty> ibot (7*10 + 5)*3*4
23:07:38 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:07:38 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 4, 5, 5, 8, 6. Your target is 453. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
23:07:57 <bjoern_> Monty, calc 6*75 + 8 - 5
23:07:57 <Monty> bjoern_: 453
23:08:03 <jsled> Heh. [[[ Sanford and Son would get much wood, they see so much junk and metal. ]]] - http://charleysmuckles.blogspot.com/2005/10/i-b-suicidegirls-model.html
23:08:08 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
23:08:09 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 40 solutions in about 191 milliseconds.
23:08:11 <Monty> ibot 75*6 - 5 + 8
23:08:26 <bjoern_> Monty, countdown
23:08:26 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 1, 10, 3, 10, 8. Your target is 754. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock.
