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00:40:23 <Monty> lo minDwarpd
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00:45:08 <rob1n> hi Monty
00:45:11 <Monty> Fact: Death Mountain clears up Bud_Lite's train set ;)
00:45:14 <rob1n> (about a day too late)
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00:55:15 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
00:55:55 <kpreid> > map succ "Ittywhonk!"
00:56:05 <swhask> "Juuzxipol\""
00:56:20 * jcowan thinks treating characters as a enumeration is kinda weird.
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00:58:49 <crschmidt> map(lambda x: chr(ord(x)+1), "Ittywhonk!") <- python
00:59:09 <crschmidt> actually, i guess, "".join(map(lambda x: chr(ord(x)+1), "Ittywhonk!"))
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01:03:36 <perigrin> join '', map { chr(ord(x)+1) } split, //, 'Ittywhonk!';
01:03:56 <perigrin> probably a better way to do that ... but that mapped the closest to your python.
01:06:33 <crschmidt> There's probably a better way for me t do it too, but I don't know it :)
01:06:46 <crschmidt> > succ
01:06:55 <crschmidt> > succ "A"
01:07:05 <crschmidt> hrmph
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01:09:33 <KragenSitaker> > map succ "Ittywhonk!"
01:09:45 <KragenSitaker> how was the storm , kevin?
01:09:47 <deltab> > succ five den
01:09:53 <Schuyler> succ is Haskell no?
01:10:00 <KragenSitaker> aye
01:10:17 <kpreid> brief
01:10:19 <Schuyler> Haskell is one of those languages I keep meaning to actually learn, but never have a practical use for
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01:10:49 <kpreid> whoops
01:11:37 * tonybaloney brings the wrath of hell upon himself
01:11:56 * tonybaloney just "upgraded" to Vista on the Windows desktop in the corner
01:12:56 <bjoern_> There is indeed a better way, s/(.)/chr(ord($1)+1)/ge;
01:19:00 <KragenSitaker> > map succ "Ittywhonk!"
01:19:09 <swhask> "Juuzxipol\""
01:20:43 <KragenSitaker> > map (succ . succ) "Ittywhonk!"
01:20:46 <swhask> "Kvv{yjqpm#"
01:21:05 <KragenSitaker> > (^)
01:21:06 <swhask> Add a type signature
01:21:46 <KragenSitaker> gee thanks swhask. i guess i'm supposed to try out my code in ghci and then only show it to the channel when it's complete then?
01:21:53 <kpreid> @type (^)
01:21:55 <supybot> kpreid: Error: "type" is not a valid command.
01:21:59 <kpreid> !type (^)
01:22:01 <swhask> forall a b. (Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a
01:22:12 <KragenSitaker> thanks :)
01:22:46 <kpreid> KragenSitaker: ghci would tell you "No instance for (Show (a -> b -> a))"
01:22:55 <KragenSitaker> and indeed it did
01:24:00 <KragenSitaker> > '(' : 'c' : ")"
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01:24:03 <swhask> "(c)"
01:24:44 <KragenSitaker> > (:")") 'c'
01:24:47 <swhask> "c)"
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01:26:55 <KragenSitaker> map (('(':) . (:")")) "cthulhu"
01:27:03 <KragenSitaker> > map (('(':) . (:")")) "cthulhu"
01:27:05 <swhask> ["(c)","(t)","(h)","(u)","(l)","(h)","(u)"]
01:27:56 <KragenSitaker> > map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (!='u') "cthulhu"
01:27:57 <swhask> Not in scope: `!='
01:28:03 <KragenSitaker> > map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (/='u') "cthulhu"
01:28:06 <swhask> Expecting a function type, but found `[a]'
01:28:06 <swhask> Expected type: a -> [Ch...
01:28:52 <KragenSitaker> > (map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (/='u')) "cthulhu"
01:28:55 <swhask> ["(c)","(t)","(h)","(l)","(h)"]
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01:34:02 <KragenSitaker> > foldr ((++) . (++"-")) [] (map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (/='u')) "cthulhu"
01:34:05 <swhask> Couldn't match `[Char]' against `t -> t1'
01:35:04 <KragenSitaker> > foldr ((++) . (++"-")) [] ((map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (/='u')) "cthulhu")
01:35:08 <swhask> "(c)-(t)-(h)-(l)-(h)-"
01:35:14 <KragenSitaker> i don't think i like point-free style
01:36:16 <KragenSitaker> > (foldr ((++) . (++"-")) [] . (map (('(':) . (:")")) . filter (/='u'))) "cthulhu"
01:36:18 <swhask> "(c)-(t)-(h)-(l)-(h)-"
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01:38:21 <KragenSitaker> i don't know enough haskell to do the next step, which is to pattern-match on Nothing | Just x to get rid of the trailing "-" in the string
01:39:22 <kpreid> patterns are pointful!
01:39:37 <kpreid> so if you want to, case foo of Nothing -> ...; Just x -> ...
01:39:38 <kpreid> or:
01:39:49 <kpreid> @type maybe
01:39:50 <supybot> kpreid: Error: "type" is not a valid command.
01:39:53 <kpreid> !type maybe
01:39:56 <swhask> forall b a. b -> (a -> b) -> Maybe a -> b
01:39:59 <kpreid> !type fromMaybe
01:40:02 <swhask> forall a. a -> Maybe a -> a
01:41:14 <jcowan> I found a possible bug in GNU sort; can someone check my logic?
01:41:45 <crschmidt> teddybot: jcowan wants to share his logic with you
01:41:45 <teddybot> Go on.
01:41:54 <jcowan> Yeah, yeah.
01:42:00 <jcowan> The input: [[[
01:42:09 <jcowan> Test Case:#1
01:42:09 <jcowan> Test:#2
01:42:10 <jcowan> ]]]
01:42:23 <jcowan> sort -t: -k1 thinks this file is already sorted.
01:42:26 <jcowan> How can that be?
01:42:27 <kpreid> > ' ' `compare` ':'
01:42:32 <swhask> LT
01:42:46 * kpreid looks up -t
01:44:00 <jcowan> field separator
01:45:31 <kpreid> It would seem to me to be a bug.
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01:45:59 <jcowan> Ftekh.
01:46:03 * jcowan tries on Solaris.
01:46:27 <kpreid> The bug is present in my "sort - GNU textutils 1.14", fwiw.
01:46:28 <crschmidt> For the record, the 'sort' that ships with OS X is apparently GNU sort. (Which I did not know.)
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01:47:49 <kpreid> "sort (coreutils) 5.2.1" on a Debian system I have access to does *not* have this bug.
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01:49:16 * crschmidt confirms that sort 5.97 does not appear to have this bug
01:50:09 <jcowan> But sort 6.7 does, so this is a regression.
01:50:14 <jcowan> What is worse, Solaris sort does too.
01:50:49 <jcowan> Which descends directly from original 7th Ed. sort, so GNU sort may have been changed to be compatible but wrong.
01:51:09 <kpreid> Regression?
01:51:28 <kpreid> I would guess "GNU textutils 1.14" isn't the same version series.
01:51:36 <jcowan> 1.14 buggy, 5.2.1 and 5.97 fixed, 6.7 buggy.
01:51:42 <jcowan> No, but textutils > coreutils.
01:52:16 <jcowan> more accurately, fileutils + shellutils + textutils became coreutils.
01:52:28 <kpreid> Then sort (cu) 6.7 < tu 1.14.
01:52:41 <kpreid> Er, your > was confusing, then.
01:54:34 <jcowan> No, I am saying that all tu releases preceded all cu releases.
01:54:53 <jcowan> Oh, > instead of <. Sorry.
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02:47:09 <bjoern_> .gc "living like europeans"
02:47:12 <phenny> "living like europeans": 268
02:50:42 * jcowan submits the sort bug to bug-coreutils
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03:47:43 <Monty> lo l7
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03:51:48 <l7> hi monty
03:51:50 <Monty> nope cool, will explore and therefore you around?
03:52:03 <l7> have you seen Supersize Me?
03:52:11 <l7> .wik Supersize Me
03:52:18 <phenny> "Super Size Me is an Academy Award-nominated 2004 documentary film, directed by and starring Morgan Spurlock, an American independent filmmaker." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersize_Me
03:54:00 <jcowan> I doubt if Monty sees movies.
03:54:01 <Monty> rwe'sd
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04:37:14 <perigrin> Monty you would really enjoy Supersize Me
04:37:16 <Monty> Only for it after they've ironed out
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04:52:56 <KragenSitaker> .g "living like europeans"
04:52:59 <phenny> KragenSitaker: http://www.guernicamag.com/interviews/170/warming_to_reality/
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05:24:31 <Monty> bah, it's Moira again
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07:11:39 <Monty> hi karamba38, how ya doing?
07:11:41 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
07:11:41 <JibbyBot> Monty: that's a silly question.
07:11:41 <Monty> });
07:11:43 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
07:12:04 <bjoern_> Hush there, Monty.
07:12:04 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
07:12:20 * bjoern_ continues as Monty requests
07:12:20 <Monty> Thanks... working ok ok
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07:17:52 <KragenSitaker> the "living like europeans" link above: "We could cut our energy consumption in half by living like Europeans."
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10:51:20 <bjoern_> .gc deceit
10:51:23 <phenny> deceit: 8,070,000
10:51:26 <bjoern_> .ety deceit
10:51:28 <phenny> "c.1300, from O.Fr. deceite, fem. pp. of deceveir (see deceive)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=deceit
10:51:41 <bjoern_> .ety deceive
10:51:43 <phenny> "c.1300, from O.Fr. deceveir, from L. decipere 'to ensnare, take in,' from de- 'from' or pejorative + capere 'to take' (see capable)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=deceive
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11:00:30 <kandinski> if there are courses on "Philosophy of Science" and "Philosophy of Mathematics", why not on "Philosophy of Computing" (not calling it Computer Science)
11:00:39 <kandinski> that line is missing a final "?"
11:08:33 * bjoern_ wonders what the right syntax is...
11:08:34 <bjoern_> .compare [Philosophy of Science] [Philosophy of Mathematics] [Philosophy of Computing]
11:08:38 <phenny> Philosophy of Science (97,600,000), Philosophy of Mathematics (51,100,000), Philosophy of Computing (31,600,000)
11:08:51 <bjoern_> .compare "Philosophy of Science" "Philosophy of Mathematics" "Philosophy of Computing"
11:08:54 <phenny> "Philosophy of Science" (2,120,000), "Philosophy of Mathematics" (464,000), "Philosophy of Computing" (22,900)
11:10:05 <bjoern_> .gc "Philosophy of Information"
11:10:08 <phenny> "Philosophy of Information": 47,700
11:10:50 <bjoern_> seems more like a whether than a why question
11:12:15 <softt> .gc "artificial intelligence"
11:12:17 <phenny> "artificial intelligence": 39,000,000
11:12:29 <bjoern_> .gc "natural intelligence"
11:12:31 <phenny> "natural intelligence": 141,000
11:12:46 <bjoern_> that is my experience aswell...
11:13:24 <softt> hmm, we here develop ai bots that people all over the world will want to chat with and do business with.
11:16:35 <softt> hmm, and do r&d on natural intelligence, sounds like that has practically limitless limitation.
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11:34:02 <Earle_Martin> .gc "philosophy of madness"
11:34:05 <phenny> "philosophy of madness": 29,900
11:34:45 <Earle_Martin> .gc "artificial stupidity"
11:34:47 <phenny> "artificial stupidity": 37,500
11:40:33 <bjoern_> .gc "philosophy of philosophy"
11:40:35 <phenny> "philosophy of philosophy": 12,200
11:40:40 <bjoern_> .gc metaphilosophy
11:40:42 <phenny> metaphilosophy: 154,000
11:40:45 <bjoern_> .gc metametaphilosophy
11:40:48 <phenny> metametaphilosophy: 58
11:40:50 <bjoern_> .gc metametametaphilosophy
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11:40:53 <phenny> metametametaphilosophy: 1
11:44:43 <Earle_Martin> whoot
11:44:57 <Earle_Martin> .gc guantanameta
11:45:00 <phenny> guantanameta: 0
11:45:02 <Earle_Martin> aw.
11:45:10 <bjoern_> .gc metamo
11:45:13 <phenny> metamo: 75,600
11:49:02 <bjoern_> [[[
11:49:03 <bjoern_> Zombies are an inevitable result of many of the options that ARE presented. Nuclear holocaust and alien invasions, for example, could
11:49:03 <bjoern_> both lead to zombie outbreaks. And in such cases it's unlikely that said zombies will cause the end of civilization as opposed to just picking
11:49:03 <bjoern_> off survivors and creating problems for the hope of rebuilding. Of course, a simple prolonged power outage would at least destroy American
11:49:04 <bjoern_> civilization. All the fat yuppies with their sport utility vehicles would curl up into a little ball and just die without modern "luxuries".
11:49:07 <bjoern_> ]]] -- http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1409&aid=-1
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12:23:56 <Morbus> jsled: i finally settled on an Automator workflow, which piggybacks off of Safari for URL access and cookies. works great.
12:24:08 <Morbus> gets me the data I need, and now I can mine it with Perl.
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13:23:25 <JibberJim> OMG they found Kryptonite!
13:24:15 <JibberJim> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6584229.stm
13:24:21 <JibberJim> Superman is in trouble now
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19:36:14 <Mumbles> all all
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20:02:35 <Mumbles> guys - how do i kill phenny ?
20:03:14 * xover looks threatheningly at Mumbles...
20:03:23 <Mumbles> on another sever
20:03:34 <Mumbles> i had to edit the irc.py a bit
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20:10:13 <Mumbles> xover, - know anything about this - ? http://paste.uni.cc/14795
20:11:17 <xover> Sorry, wouldn't know Python from a core dump.
20:11:45 <xover> But the exception sounds like you've ran afoul of Pythin's significant whitespace rules.
20:13:12 <jsled> yeah, looks like you've got peanut butter^W^Wtabs mixed in with the spaces.
20:13:36 <Mumbles> ive just changed that
20:14:12 <kpreid> you've got several occurrences of misaligned statements in that vicinity
20:14:20 <Mumbles> ill post the new one
20:14:25 <kpreid> you can't just comment out a condition and leave the body - you have to line it up with the rest
20:14:30 <Mumbles> sorry i know fuck all about python :P
20:14:49 <kpreid> Mumbles: all statements in the same block must be equally indented
20:15:07 <perigrin> Mumbles, phenny reports her pid when she starts
20:15:17 <perigrin> also she runs as a long running process called "python"
20:17:43 <Mumbles> bummer still not working
20:18:03 <Mumbles> http://paste.uni.cc/14796
20:18:08 <Mumbles> from line 154
20:18:56 <jsled> well, it's still not aligned.
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20:19:53 <jsled> l.170 is at a different indent from l.168.
20:29:38 <thelsdj> is there something special you have to do to encode -- inside an html comment?
20:29:53 <xover> Yes. Don't.
20:30:37 <jsled> Don't do the special thing? Don't use "--"?
20:31:18 <thelsdj> well what if its not intentional? outside data
20:32:01 <thelsdj> I'm trying to figure out why we are putting this in a comment, but thats another story hehe
20:32:05 <xover> A markup declaration can contain comments delimited by '--'. You can't use that string otherwise.
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22:08:55 <KragenSitaker> .wik adipose cells
22:08:56 <phenny> "Adipocytes are the cells that primarily compose adipose tissue, specialized in storing energy as fat." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocyte
22:09:43 <Tene> .wik phenny
22:09:44 <phenny> "hya jodie wat u doin 2nyt lyk hunni?? how mint is dis plz dont tell every1 bout dis tho coz den it will get blocked k. write bk hun lv ya xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:!*!jodie-2007!*!
22:09:56 <Tene> ...
22:09:58 <bancus> Um...
22:10:01 <bancus> k
22:10:46 <bancus> That makes me dizzy. :-(
22:10:54 <est> .wik Kragen
22:10:57 <phenny> "I'm kragen@pobox.com; my home page is at http://pobox.com/~kragen/" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kragen
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22:12:09 <Tene> .wik bancus
22:12:10 <phenny> "Bankruptcy is a legally declared inability or impairment of ability of an individual or organizations to pay their creditors." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy
22:16:10 <bancus> Heh.
22:16:13 <bancus> .wik tene
22:16:16 <phenny> "The requested page title was invalid, empty, an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title, or contained unsupported characters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_T%C3%A8ne_culture
22:16:22 <est> .wik est
22:16:25 <phenny> "est in French, meaning 'east', as in referring to France and to the Franche-Comté and Lorraine régions" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est
22:16:43 <bancus> .wik treed
22:16:46 <phenny> "Treeing is a method of hunting where dogs are used to force animals that naturally climb up into trees, where they can be shot by hunters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treeing
22:16:50 <bancus> Heh!
22:17:28 * Tene laughs.
22:18:41 <cre8radix|out> .seen sbp
22:18:43 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen sbp around.
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22:20:20 *** bancus changed the topic to: " sbp is alive and well | "What do geeks traditionally worry about?" - "Girl robots, and why they don't exist yet." -- /."
22:20:23 <bancus> ack
22:20:41 *** bancus changed the topic to: "sbp is alive and well, supposedly | "What do geeks traditionally worry about?" - "Girl robots, and why they don't exist yet." -- /."
22:21:39 <est> :|
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22:34:56 <Tene> bancus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A%21*%21jodie-2007%21*%21&diff=125645541&oldid=116536639
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22:36:31 <bancus> bahahaha
22:36:52 <Tene> Done by a friend of mine after I showed it to him.
22:38:47 <bancus> Awesome.
22:38:53 <bancus> I couldn't understand it at all.
22:42:00 <bancus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not/Outtakes
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22:46:03 <nsh> .wik plenum
22:46:05 <phenny> "the antithesis of a vacuum; in other words, completely-filled, positive-pressure space." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenum
22:46:19 <Tene> .wik kpreid
22:46:21 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "kpreid ".
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22:46:55 <kpreid> A different "Kevin Reid" is mentioned in Wikipedia, but not me.
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22:49:11 <Arnia> hmm
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