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01:16:44 <Monty> But what does kpreid have to do with the price of fish?
01:16:46 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
01:16:47 <Monty> really hard
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03:27:59 <bjoern_> .compare "after the rain comes sun" "after the sun comes rain"
03:28:02 <phenny> "after the sun comes rain" (7,020), "after the rain comes sun" (557)
03:28:51 <bjoern_> .compare "follow me now" "follow me later"
03:28:53 <phenny> "follow me now" (77,800), "follow me later" (25,800)
03:29:29 <kpreid> .gc "follow me never"
03:29:31 <phenny> "follow me never": 17,800
03:30:18 <bjoern_> .compare "folge mir jetzt" "folge mir spaeter" "folge mir nicht" "folge mir nicht" "folge mir nie "folge mir niemals"
03:30:20 <phenny> bjoern_: Sorry, can only compare up to five terms or phrases.
03:30:33 <bjoern_> aww
03:30:39 <bjoern_> and I counted, twice!
03:30:45 <bjoern_> .compare "folge mir jetzt" "folge mir spaeter" "folge mir nicht" "folge mir nicht" "folge mir nie"
03:30:50 <phenny> "folge mir nicht" (14,600), "folge mir nicht" (14,600), "folge mir jetzt" (3,960), "folge mir spaeter" (2), "folge mir nie" (0)
03:30:58 <bjoern_> aah that's why!
03:31:56 <bjoern_> .compare "nach der sonne kommt regen" "nach dem regen kommt sonne" "nach dem regen scheint die sonne"
03:31:59 <phenny> "nach dem regen scheint die sonne" (1,840), "nach dem regen kommt sonne" (5), "nach der sonne kommt regen" (1)
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04:16:28 <bjoern_> I wonder what it means that http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/p3p_full_policy.xml expires 2038...
04:21:45 <bjoern_> <RETENTION><indefinitely/></RETENTION> - of course
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04:54:24 <Monty> bah, it's perigrin again
04:54:33 <perigrin> love you too monty
04:54:37 <Monty> itunes plays mp3 just saw some kind of owls protected species or Mimulus
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05:00:31 <AeroLeviathan> all google cookies expire in 2038, as well
05:00:42 <AeroLeviathan> i think it's the maximum date they can set with a 32-bit integer? is that right?
05:00:47 <AeroLeviathan> .wp year 2038
05:00:51 <AeroLeviathan> .wik year 2038
05:00:56 <phenny> "The year 2038 problem may cause some computer software to fail before or in the year 2038." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
05:04:03 <bjoern_> yes, but cookies and privacy policies aren't quite the same thing...
05:05:10 <AeroLeviathan> ah... and it's not set as an integer, anyway...
05:05:20 <AeroLeviathan> maybe it's some kind of in-joke based on the cookies thing?
05:05:25 * AeroLeviathan is really stretching it >_>
05:05:52 <bjoern_> Well Google Privacy is kind of a joke, so you aren't stretching it that much...
05:05:57 <AeroLeviathan> they're going to have to rework their cookies anyway when 2038 rolls around, they might as well do the privacy policy at the same time!
05:06:13 <AeroLeviathan> man, i wonder if google will even be around then.
05:08:13 <bjoern_> quite possibly they will be part of Omni Consumer Products by then.
05:12:00 <AeroLeviathan> is that a reference to some sort of fictional work?
05:12:21 <bjoern_> ask Google!
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05:13:50 <AeroLeviathan> bah, don't care enough
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05:58:55 <bjoern_> .gc "corporate combatant"
05:58:57 <phenny> "corporate combatant": 6
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06:33:03 <bjoern_> .gc "dynamics of truth"
06:33:05 <phenny> "dynamics of truth": 82,900
06:33:28 <bjoern_> .gc "fortuna plango vulnera"
06:33:31 <phenny> "fortuna plango vulnera": 1,510
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07:28:11 <bjoern_> .gc DE-ASCII
07:28:14 <phenny> DE-ASCII: 111,000
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07:36:18 <bjoern_> .calc (0x7f + 0x1d + 0x0f + 0x0f) in decimal
07:36:20 <phenny> 0x7f + 0x1d + 0x0f + 0x0f = 186
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07:54:00 <bjoern_> .cp ^c3b6
07:54:02 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=C3B6
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08:31:52 <sbp> http://www.crestock.com/blog/photography/speed-demon-photography-76.aspx
08:32:18 <bjoern_> 'p!
08:32:23 <sbp> hello!
08:32:33 <sbp> man, I can't remember adding that Unihan support
08:32:36 <sbp> when'd I do that?
08:32:52 <bjoern_> after I complained a lot
08:33:01 <sbp> fair enough
08:33:39 <sbp> ah, looks like http://swhack.com/logs/2006-09-04#T21-47-54
08:46:39 <est> martiancode: what do martians code in?
08:47:00 <bjoern_> martiancode.
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09:06:54 * sbp tries out GranParadiso alpha 5
09:07:06 <sbp> kinda funny given that I'm still using 1.5
09:12:19 <thelsdj> I will forever think 'lisa simpson giving head' when i see the london olympics logo
09:12:57 <sbp> ...
09:13:00 <bjoern_> u wantz pix?
09:13:32 <thelsdj> thats the only thing i see when i see it
09:13:42 <thelsdj> burned into my brain for all eternity
09:13:48 <sbp> GranParadiso: hella buggy, hella slow, no new features that I could tell
09:14:28 <bjoern_> and you couldn't tell that without trying it out?
09:14:38 <sbp> thelsdj: okay, I can't see it at all. which bit is meant to be what?
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09:14:46 <thelsdj> Yea, I think the Mozilla Foundation will be considered 'evil' before google is generally considered evil
09:14:46 <sbp> bjoern_: hmm, now you mention it...
09:14:52 <thelsdj> lisa simpson is on the right
09:14:59 <thelsdj> top part is her head/hair
09:15:08 <sbp> oh!
09:15:14 <sbp> wow, scary
09:15:28 <sbp> damn, I didn't think it'd look that obvious
09:15:43 <sbp> oh, damn. heh
09:15:48 <bjoern_> there are corresponding videos on youtube already
09:16:10 <sbp> not entirely surprising
09:17:25 <bjoern_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uo3u6s4MLU fir example
09:20:59 <sbp> huh. you *have* to have address and search in Safari, you can't just have address
09:21:24 <sbp> and you can't put the bookmarks bar on the same level as the address bar
09:21:39 <sbp> and brushed metal == sux
09:23:04 <bjoern_> yeah, I never got that.
09:23:09 <bjoern_> why would I want a search box?
09:23:40 <sbp> yeah
09:23:45 <sbp> waste of space
09:23:52 <sbp> camino lets you get rid of it, but...
09:24:00 <sbp> won't let you put the bookmarks bar with the address bar still
09:24:02 <sbp> annoying!
09:24:27 <sbp> not to mention all the other shit it doesn't have
09:24:35 <sbp> no extensions == sux
09:25:36 <JibberJim> Penis extensions?
09:26:14 <bjoern_> .gc iPenis
09:26:16 <phenny> iPenis: 4,290
09:27:34 * sbp tries using Camino for a bit all the same
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09:30:48 <sbp> ah, there's a new Camino
09:30:50 <sbp> let's try that
09:31:14 <martianixor> est: sorry was away trying to fix my ship
09:31:52 <sbp> your ship is borken?
09:32:21 <martianixor> sbp: a few memory chips are
09:33:03 <nicomen> you a pirate?
09:33:34 <martianixor> nicomen: define pirate
09:33:44 <nicomen> a man with a broken ship
09:34:28 <martianixor> nicomen s/ship/martianspacecraft/
09:35:49 <nicomen> guess it's s/man/martian/ too then
09:36:53 <sbp> ...ARGH
09:37:03 <sbp> Camino 1.5 has a conjoined address and search bar!
09:37:06 <sbp> BAD CAMINO
09:37:46 <sbp> fucking dingbats
09:38:53 <thelsdj> whats wrong with firefox?
09:39:32 <sbp> it crashes all the time and is slow as hell
09:39:54 <thelsdj> buy more ram :P
09:40:01 <sbp> 1 GB should be enough
09:40:23 <thelsdj> true
09:40:32 <sbp> Firefox is well known for its copious memory leaks...
09:40:35 * martianixor started to like bugs since firebug
09:40:40 <sbp> it doesn't look like they're fixed in 3.0
09:42:11 <sbp> we always liked Firefox because it was sleek and cutting edge and not bloatware
09:42:27 <sbp> the more mainstream it's gotten, the less sleek and cutting edge and the more bloatware it's become...
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09:44:06 <nicomen> what's wrong with opera?
09:44:26 <martianixor> nicomen: does it have firebug?
09:45:09 <martianixor> s/have/has/
09:45:10 <nicomen> nope
09:45:15 <nicomen> have was right
09:45:24 <martianixor> nicomen: thank you
09:45:55 * sbp tries very hard to put the tab bar *below* the address bar in Opera; fails
09:46:02 <est> martianixor: no problem..i understand..breakdown on earth
09:47:26 * sbp wonders what the difference between back and rewind is
09:47:44 <nicomen> sbp: like this:
09:50:06 <nicomen> http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/operatabaddressbar.png
09:50:12 * martianixor is thinking of back and rewind is flashback
09:50:42 <nicomen> sbp: rewind goes all the way back to the top of history I think
09:50:48 <sbp> nicomen: yeah, like that. how did you *do* that?
09:50:53 <nicomen> I never use that, but FFWD is nice
09:52:00 <nicomen> sbp: I add the adress bar and buttons to the "main bar" and just make the "adress bar" invisible
09:52:23 <sbp> ah!
09:52:47 <martianixor> any idea on how to benchmark a mind/brain ?
09:53:07 <nicomen> sbp: I can send you my .ini file if you want
09:54:36 <sbp> nicomen: yeah, that'd be useful. thanks!
09:54:59 <martianixor> thanks in advance
09:55:03 <sbp> trying to figure out how to get rid of the text bits at the moment
09:55:39 <nicomen> http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/toolbar.ini
09:55:41 <est> martianixor: for what purpose? there are a variety of such benchmarks
09:55:57 <nicomen> put it in .opera/toolbar/ , you might need to restart opera
09:56:13 <martianixor> est: memory capacity, how fast responses are...etc
09:56:36 <nicomen> you get some extra buttons with stff like dom snapshot and js console and such, but of you don't need them, just remove them
09:56:53 <est> oh..like software for short-term memory, reaction time, etc?
09:57:23 * sbp figures out how to get rid of the text
09:57:38 <nicomen> text bits?
09:57:42 <est> sbp will now destroy all text
09:57:54 <est> ..and a new world epoch will down
09:58:02 <est> uh..dawn
09:59:40 <martianixor> est: you know that you're stupid when you do the same mistake twice "and in a short time" correct?
10:00:17 <sbp> nicomen: yeah, the icon labels
10:00:24 <sbp> hmm, it keeps opening Speed Dial as my homepage
10:00:29 <sbp> rather than my selected homepage
10:01:15 <sbp> and when I do "hide speed dial", it just opens blank pages
10:01:28 <nicomen> the icon labels are gone if you tell it to just show images
10:01:40 <nicomen> in the appearance -> toolbar thingy
10:01:42 <est> martianixor: unless im too stupid to notice
10:01:48 <martianixor> est: exactly
10:01:48 <nicomen> the homepage.. hmm let me try
10:03:11 <martianixor> est: does that has to do with being nervous or suffering a lake of self-confidence? which's still a mental state
10:04:42 <martianixor> est: which's related to types of food you're eating
10:06:27 <est> sure it could. nervous in what context?
10:06:51 <nicomen> sbp: doesn't really say to open home page when opening a new tab anywhere
10:06:54 <martianixor> est: like when you've been put under pressure/stress
10:07:26 * martianixor like me cause I'm unable to go home since I'm still trying to fix my spacecraft
10:07:47 <sbp> nicomen: yeah. that's pretty essential for me though!
10:07:48 <est> yeah..stress makes stupid
10:07:51 <sbp> part of my workflow
10:08:01 <martianixor> est: temporarily correct?
10:08:48 <est> martianixor: usually correct, i think
10:08:58 <martianixor> est: what if you're stressed cause you can't find time reading about most of the topics you wanted to read about?
10:09:11 <est> martianixor: maybe we can help you with your spacecraft
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10:10:32 <martianixor> est: that's something I believe I can do, I think I'm still being able to get X up and running
10:11:29 <martianixor> est: but can you help me figure out why am I unable to learn something like PHP !
10:11:57 <est> maybe it's repulsive?
10:13:14 <martianixor> est worse than that can you help me figure out why I keep forgetting the meaning of repulsive
10:13:47 <est> why cant i remember to forget that
10:13:47 <martianixor> est: knowing the meaning is a piece a cake, thank God for something like www.m-w.com
10:13:49 <est> ?
10:15:10 <martianixor> est: you mean't repulsive in what context?
10:15:23 <martianixor> repelling with a previous knowledge
10:15:33 <martianixor> or disgusting?
10:15:51 <nicomen> sbp: easy-peasy
10:15:53 <nicomen> sbp: http://nontroppo.org/tools/buttonmaker/
10:16:07 <bjoern_> <sbp> we always liked Firefox because it was sleek and cutting edge and not bloatware
10:16:08 <bjoern_> u shouldn't've stopped takin' drugz man
10:16:54 <nicomen> action: New page, title: New tab, icon: New page, click on second action. AND (&), action: go to homepage -> create button
10:17:01 <nicomen> click on button, or drag it to your toolbar
10:17:22 <nicomen> bjoern_: I loved it around phoenix times ;D
10:18:31 <martianixor> help with troubleshooting a brain with distorted signals, anyone
10:19:19 <bjoern_> I'm amazed how much visual noise you are willing to put up with
10:19:30 <bjoern_> since taking the shots at http://ieqabar.sourceforge.net/ I've further removed noise from the browser
10:19:47 <bjoern_> similarily, there are 2 buttons in my quick launch bar, and 4 tray icons
10:20:21 <bjoern_> on http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/operatabaddressbar.png there are, like, millions of useless buttons all over
10:20:46 <nicomen> I don't think they are useless though
10:21:10 <nicomen> ther are two network indicators though, that's a bit redundant
10:21:30 <martianixor> please accept my appologiez for the visual noise i've produced along the past few minutes
10:21:33 <nicomen> and I don't REALLY need the drop down menu in opera, but that's gone with alt+f11
10:21:35 <bjoern_> you have three opera buttons!
10:24:04 <nicomen> yeah beta versions and other versions
10:24:39 <xover> If only I could persuade Safari to support '.g foo' in its address field...
10:24:42 <nicomen> two power indicators too
10:25:32 <nicomen> xover: you _could_ set up a local web server and an entry in your hosts ile to let "g" or other shortcuts map to localhost and let it do the forwarding
10:25:37 <bjoern_> safari can't even do that!?!
10:25:44 <xover> Nope.
10:25:48 <bjoern_> IE introduced that, when, in IE5.0?
10:26:13 * martianixor is back to work
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10:26:35 <xover> I wasn't particularly thinking of IE's implementation...
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10:33:05 <sbp> #624740
10:33:21 <nicomen> bjoern_: there, cleaned it up for you, good for me too ;) http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/cleanerdesktop.png
10:33:24 <sbp> bjoern_: I should've said Phoenix, perhaps!
10:34:13 <sbp> nicomen: on the button maker, can I then bind that to a key?
10:34:24 <sbp> I open new tabs with Command+T normally
10:34:41 <nicomen> ah then you could've edited it in the shortcuts thingy
10:35:43 <bjoern_> this speed dial nonsense is fucking annoying - and you can't even turn it off! only make it a bit more hidden.
10:36:34 <nicomen> use opera:blank as homepage
10:37:42 <sbp> the shortcuts thingy?
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10:41:07 <bjoern_> I use about:blank as homepage, that still gives you the speed dial if you open a new tab
10:41:21 <bjoern_> see the shot above sbp
10:43:31 <sbp> hmm? eh?
10:43:53 * sbp makes his own speed-dial page using the logos of his most frequently visited sites
10:44:07 <sbp> looks pretty freaking good, I have to say
10:44:14 <est> let's see!
10:44:49 <sbp> will upload a screenshot in a sec when I've futzed with the style
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10:47:03 <nicomen> sbp: it's abit annoying it seems, you need to go to prefs, duplicate the default menu setup, open .opera/standard_menu (1).ini and alter New page,1 to New page,1 & Go to homepage and in addition add "New page,1 & Go to homepage" to the "t ctrl" shortcut in prefs -> advanced -> shortcut -> key shortcuts
10:49:54 <sbp> est: http://inamidst.com/stuff/images/startdial
10:50:05 <sbp> nicomen: hmm, yeah, probably not going to bother with that :-)
10:50:09 <sbp> nice to know that it's possible though
10:50:53 <sbp> est: I had to hunt about a bit for some of these logos. the OED one is a third party logo. the Froogle UK one is the old logo that someone's archived somewhere (I had to resize it; I had to resize a few). "Google Products" is an assbunk name
10:51:05 * sbp is quite pleased with the results
10:51:10 <sbp> they're alphabetically ordered
10:51:32 <sbp> the Gandi one was a transparency, so I had to set the background-color
10:51:36 <sbp> 11:32 <sbp> #624740
10:51:47 <sbp> that was a note to myself of the background color. DigitalColorMonitor++
10:53:16 <deltab> lots about honey on BBC1 now
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10:56:31 <est> oh..ive never looked at heavens above
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10:59:34 <sbp> rats, missed the honey thing
11:00:09 <sbp> note that startdial is derived from my current real start-page which has like 30 links on it
11:00:21 <sbp> or more, even. but they're all very much along the same lines... it's services and such
11:00:32 <sbp> I was thinking about having a start-page for creativity
11:00:48 <sbp> but I'm not really sure what links I'd put on it! stuff like Wikipedia Random Page, perhaps?
11:06:54 <nicomen> sbp: ah sorry stupid me, just go to prefs -> advanced -> shortcuts -> keyboard, then type in t ctrl in the search field, there, change "New page,1" to "New page,1 & Go to homepage" and you are all set
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11:12:55 <sbp> nicomen: ah yes, that works. thanks!
11:13:22 * sbp writes about all of this at http://inamidst.com/whits/2007/06#startdial
11:18:53 * nicomen url drops too: http://opentheweb.org/whensthat/yesterday
11:21:56 <xover> .g "Happy Hacking Keyboard"
11:21:59 <phenny> xover: http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/
11:22:22 <sbp> ooh, quite nice
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11:23:49 <sbp> wkearney99! hello!
11:24:04 <sbp> extraordinarily long time no see
11:24:08 * wkearney99 waves
11:24:20 <wkearney99> indeed, life has a way of interrupting IRC
11:24:25 <sbp> and vice versa
11:24:29 <wkearney99> +1
11:24:37 <sbp> what up in BK Land?
11:24:53 <wkearney99> stuck out on the boat, waiting for the fuel dock to open up
11:25:13 <sbp> heh. rather more dynamic than me. I'm just sitting on my sofa
11:25:42 <wkearney99> actually, so am I. Just the one down in the cabin. gotta love leeching free wifi at a marina
11:25:45 <sbp> has your lake/river/ocean got wifi?
11:25:50 <sbp> ooh, it has. awesome
11:26:03 <wkearney99> good enough coverage that I
11:26:22 <wkearney99> I'm just using the laptop's own card, not the boat's bridge
11:26:42 <sbp> I guess you have to be pretty close to the quayside though?
11:27:30 <wkearney99> most of the time I use a pair of access points, one is a client to shore and the other covers the boat itself. I've an antenna on the radar arch that will usually let me pull in a signal from up to 500yards offshore
11:28:03 <sbp> man, that's the life
11:28:03 <wkearney99> there's a surprising amount of free wifi in most anchorage areas on the chesapeake bay
11:28:14 <wkearney99> yes, it "doesn't suck"
11:28:26 <sbp> bobbing about and browing the web
11:28:31 <wkearney99> at least not until I have to put 200gallons of gasoline in it...
11:28:37 <sbp> well, right
11:28:46 <wkearney99> lends new meaning to "offshore development"
11:28:52 <sbp> heh, yeah
11:29:01 <wkearney99> rdp, citrix, vnc are your friends
11:29:03 <sbp> .gc "offshore web development"
11:29:05 <phenny> "offshore web development": 203,000
11:29:22 <wkearney99> how'
11:29:25 * sbp wonders how many of those results are about Sealand...
11:29:38 * wkearney99 hates using the wife's tiny sony laptop keyboard...
11:29:49 <wkearney99> how's like treating you lately?
11:29:53 <sbp> heh. apostrophe-by-return syndrome
11:30:01 <sbp> things are going pretty well, thanks!
11:30:14 <sbp> I'm in a busy and short-term outputless period at the moment
11:30:29 <sbp> but hopefully I'll have some real nice things to show for it later in the year and next year
11:30:45 <wkearney99> that'
11:30:51 <sbp> lots of ideas and projects kicking about. mainly across the compsci-history spectrum
11:31:15 <sbp> how about you? left syndication well behind by now, or still keeping those endeavours up?
11:31:30 <wkearney99> eh, it ain't dead but it ain
11:31:36 <wkearney99> ain't exactly kickin either
11:31:52 <sbp> fair enough. guess there isn't really much going on in the field in general right now
11:31:57 <wkearney99> no shit
11:32:03 * sbp hasn't done syndication stuff since 2005 though, so doesn't exactly know
11:32:07 <wkearney99> lots of stuff's just died
11:32:30 <sbp> yeah, there aren't even many tech things at all that are much interesting
11:32:47 <sbp> Web 2.0's killed everything off! :-)
11:32:57 <wkearney99> heh
11:33:04 <sbp> <Web> I am now complete. thank you
11:33:16 <wkearney99> more like web2.0 hasn't found a way to actually sell itself.
11:33:43 <sbp> or even define itself...
11:33:53 <sbp> even BBC News has been going on about it
11:33:54 <wkearney99> lots of potential but the geeks keep forgetting (or don't want to) finish the "last mile" to the actual (l)users.
11:34:36 <wkearney99> instead they just let it devolve into nothing but myspace and porn chats
11:34:50 <wkearney99> and webcams
11:34:53 <sbp> heh, yeah. you should see some of the youtube comments...
11:34:57 <sbp> good stuff
11:35:08 <wkearney99> not that there's anything wrong with porn webcams....
11:35:40 <wkearney99> youtube, the great conspiracy to waste even more time than IM
11:35:51 <sbp> but I guess that's just what happens when you get the vox populi trivially web enabled. they fill it with cat pictures (not that there's anything wrong with those or porn webcams) to begin with. I wonder if in ten or twenty years' time when it's the web youth grown up things won't be different
11:36:27 <wkearney99> pfft, the web youth get a rude awakening when they get to their real jobs...
11:36:38 <sbp> chuckle. yeah. and the annoying thing about YouTube is that people give you a link and you can't really judge whether it's worth watching the video a lot of time. that's five minutes wasted if it was bunk; whereas if it's just a picture or a website you lose 5/10 seconds max
11:37:14 <sbp> yeah, but it used to be the computer game youth, and probably many other kinds of lazy-assed youth before that... the youth has always been lazy, no matter how it's slacked off
11:37:20 <wkearney99> and then there's the other wasted minutes/hours wandering around looking at other dreck
11:37:32 <sbp> just naïvely optimistically hoping that the web will make some educational difference in the long run
11:38:00 <wkearney99> gotta love optimism
11:38:13 <sbp> yup. on the flip side, some of this stuff can be useful. I sorta conceded last month that Flickr is actually useful... when you need to find an image to illustrate a page, Flickr's usually got a Creative Commons one somewhere that you can use. that's pretty nice
11:38:36 * sbp is pessimistic about his optimism
11:38:51 <xover> Ugh. I just realized I hate my email font. Why the hell am I subjecting myself to Monaco 9 again?
11:38:52 <wkearney99> true, as opposed to actually supporting a photographer that takes one for you
11:38:52 <sbp> and cynical about my naïvity!
11:39:08 * wkearney99 misses monaco
11:39:16 <sbp> xover: Monaco 9? doesn't that cause eyebleed at that size?
11:39:24 <wkearney99> you're getting old...
11:39:26 <sbp> (actually I regularly use Monaco 10...)
11:39:38 <xover> sbp: Quick: A good sans monospace for email?
11:39:46 <sbp> bleedin' time and its oldenising
11:39:48 <sbp> Everson Mono!
11:39:57 <xover> .g "Everson Mono"
11:39:59 <phenny> xover: http://www.evertype.com/emono/
11:41:00 <xover> Ah non-Shareware one? Preferably with semi-decent Unicode coverage?
11:41:53 <sbp> I'd go for Everson Mono all the same
11:41:58 <wkearney99> hmm, looks pretty decent
11:42:29 * xover falls back to Bitstream Vera Sans Mono…
11:43:00 <bjoern_> Say I have a grammar a ::= b "x" , b ::= "y" b | "y"; b is right-recursive. What, with respect to recursion, should I call a?
11:43:10 <sbp> I actually don't have many custom fonts installed. just the cream of the crop
11:43:12 <wkearney99> gotta run, fuel dock folks here finally...
11:43:26 <sbp> wkearney99: enjoy! (after refuelling, that is)
11:45:20 * sbp finds right recursion linked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_recursion but ruddied
11:45:39 <nicomen> bjoern_: as in left-something-that-is-not-recurse-but-illustrates-that-that's-where-it-may-expand?
11:46:56 <bjoern_> no. more as in references-right-recursive-non-terminal.
11:47:14 <nicomen> yeah that's what I meant
11:47:20 <nicomen> ;D but yeah I get it
11:48:11 <bjoern_> if it was a ::= "x" b , b ::= "y" b | "y" - i'd call a right-recursive for my purposes
11:48:45 <bjoern_> similarily, I would consider a ::= "x" b "x" middle-recursive
11:49:38 <sbp> .g "hmz is"
11:49:40 <phenny> sbp: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/01/14/
11:49:48 <sbp> @title http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/01/14/
11:49:49 <supybot> sbp: Swhack Weblog: hmz is the meaning of life
11:49:55 * crschmidt is getting married in an hour
11:50:04 <sbp> ooh
11:50:11 <bjoern_> hmz crschmidt
11:50:19 <sbp> one hour left of swingin' batchelorhood!
11:50:43 <sbp> good luck!
11:50:49 <crschmidt> thanks!
11:50:53 <sbp> .cp wedding
11:50:53 <xover> In fonts, what is the “Book” variant?
11:50:56 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'wedding'.
11:51:55 <xover> What non-Font Fetishists would call “Normal” or “Regular” (but which terms, I'm sure, the FF would have wildly non-intuitive definitions for)?
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11:52:17 <xover> crschmidt!
11:52:22 <xover> Wedding?!?
11:52:27 * sbp hathn't a clue
11:52:32 <xover> Where's the damn web feed?!?
11:52:49 <crschmidt> because i don't have enough to worry about?
11:53:13 <sbp> ||| <- bride, vicar, bridegroom
11:53:14 <xover> heh heh
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11:53:22 <bsh> 婚
11:53:38 <xover> Who's in the front row with a laptop scribing this for #swhack?
11:53:51 <sbp> .cp \bbell\b
11:53:53 <phenny> 0007: <control> - BELL ()
11:53:56 <phenny> 237E: BELL SYMBOL (⍾)
11:53:59 <phenny> 2407: SYMBOL FOR BELL (␇) [...]
11:54:05 <nicomen>
11:54:21 <nicomen> .bytes
11:54:23 <phenny> '\x02'
11:54:28 <nicomen> .bytes
11:54:30 <phenny> '\x07'
11:54:33 <sbp> 婚⍾⍾
11:54:34 <nicomen> there you go
11:54:49 <bsh> .pc ⍾⍾
11:54:51 <phenny> 237E: BELL SYMBOL (⍾)
11:54:55 <phenny> 237E: BELL SYMBOL (⍾)
11:54:59 <bsh> I see!
11:55:06 <sbp> Wedding Bells / Attack of the Chinese Mushrooms
11:55:13 <bsh> Well, I don't see, that's why I did it.....
11:55:20 <sbp> heh
11:55:36 <sbp> they look like mushrooms, trust me
11:55:58 * xover goes for DejaVu Sans Mono 12…
12:00:15 <sbp> man, I haven't listened to Sister Ray for ages
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12:06:30 * sbp plays it
12:07:35 <bjoern_> I am looking for the word "parental" =~ s/parent/child/
12:07:45 <sbp> childlike
12:07:58 <sbp> childish?
12:08:20 <sbp> I guess both of those are pejorative. you want something that describes the rôle
12:08:22 <bjoern_> more like in "parental control"
12:08:41 <sbp> .gc childine
12:08:42 <xover> Anarchy? Freedom? Individual?
12:08:44 <phenny> childine: 615
12:08:45 <sbp> .gc childene
12:08:45 <phenny> childene: 59
12:12:04 <bjoern_> .gc descendential
12:12:04 <phenny> descendential : 2
12:13:02 <xover> .compare exploded exploaded
12:13:02 <phenny> exploded (20,600,000), exploaded (14,500)
12:13:28 <sbp> man, she's still busy sucking on his ding-dong
12:13:31 <sbp> after all these years
12:15:28 <sbp> chuckle:
12:15:28 * Arnia looks sleepy
12:15:28 <sbp> def check_version():
12:15:29 <sbp> if hasattr(sys, 'version_info'):
12:15:29 <sbp> if sys.version_info < (2, 5):
12:15:29 <sbp> error('Requires Python 2.5 or later.')
12:15:29 <sbp> else: error('Requires non-prehistoric Python, i.e. 2.5+.')
12:15:31 <sbp> yo Arnia!
12:15:53 <Arnia> Hey sbp
12:16:03 <sbp> did you catch Challenge Anneka? I did not
12:16:41 <bjoern_> .g offspring-conspiracy
12:16:41 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-One-Offspring/dp/B000051XVK
12:18:17 <sbp> Ixnay on the Hombre was good
12:18:38 <sbp> Mota was great
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12:18:50 <sbp> and Don't Pick it Up. heh
12:20:33 <sbp> Sister Ray's still trundling away
12:20:38 <sbp> just getting up to Maureen's bit
12:21:39 <Tene> suggestions of DVD burning software in MS Windows?
12:23:38 <xover> You burning Fedora 7 to DVD so you can get rid of `doze then? :-)
12:26:22 <Tene> I was upgrading to 7 with a dvd that I now notice is all scratched up. Install failed.
12:26:35 <Tene> After formatting the partitions.
12:27:03 <Tene> I can still get grub to boot into the windows partition still left around on my laptop, but it doesn't have DVD burning software.
12:35:12 <Arnia> sbp: I did not either. Haboo
12:35:45 * bjoern_ recommends `dvdburn`, part of the Resource Kit
12:36:40 <bjoern_> it's about the best zero-cost dvd burning software I've encountered as yet
12:47:38 <bjoern_> kcahws#
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14:44:46 <kpreid> .compare "type annotations" "taipei notations"
14:44:47 <phenny> "type annotations" (88,100), "taipei notations" (0)
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15:08:44 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's BigJibby!
15:09:05 <BigJibby> Monty!
15:09:08 <Monty> cubic exceptions masturbates David Beckham's brussel sprout :(
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16:50:32 <Monty> howdy, BigJibby
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17:52:41 <bpt``> sbp: you do know that your 'focus on list elements' example can easily be implemented without JavaScript, right?
17:53:33 <bpt``> I like the 'tiny list icons' recipe
17:54:17 <bpt``> sbp: and wouldn't it be appropriate to put dictionary entries in a definition list? (:
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18:03:04 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's karamba38!
18:08:39 <sbp> whoo, Lewis Hamilton on pole!
18:08:41 <phenny> sbp: 17:23Z <evangineer> tell sbp what theme (color scheme) do you use that gvimrc with, none of the default ones seem to work that brilliantly with it?
18:08:45 <phenny> sbp: 17:42Z <d8uv> ask sbp http://inamidst.com/proj/avocet/ demonstation
18:08:52 <sbp> bpt``: with nested :hover?
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18:20:59 <Monty> hi BigJibby, how ya doing?
18:21:01 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
18:21:04 <Monty> How'd you are skilled at full blast one that Chris Macrae"
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18:23:03 <sbp> crschmidt must be quite married by now
18:23:31 <sbp> phenny: ask crschmidt how married life is
18:23:34 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when crschmidt is around.
18:24:17 <bpt``> sbp: yes
18:24:19 <bpt``> sbp: http://hcoop.net/~bpt/hover.html
18:25:00 <sbp> heh. you got the colours transposed, but I get the principle, yeah
18:25:38 <kpreid> oh hey I did that once
18:25:48 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/data/%3Cstyle%20type%3D%22text/css%22%3E%0D%0Aul%3Ahover%20%3E%20li%20%7B%20color%3A%20%23bab%3B%20%7D%0D%0Aul%3Ahover%20%3E%20li%3Ahover%20%7B%20color%3A%20%23333%3B%20%7D%0D%0A%3C/style%3E%0D%0A%3Cul%3E%0D%0A%3Cli%3Elorem%20ipsum%20dolor%20sit%20amet%3C/li%3E%0D%0A%3Cli%3Elorem%20ipsum%20dolor%20sit%20amet%3C/li%3E%0D%0A%3Cli%3Elorem%20ipsum%20dolor%20sit%20amet%3C/li%3E%0D%0A%3C/ul%3E%0D%0A
18:25:58 <kpreid> it was a very wide table - I made the hovered row highlighted so you could see that data set easily
18:26:21 <sbp> did you dishighlight the other rows though? that's the "novel" bit
18:26:32 <kpreid> yep
18:26:42 <sbp> oho
18:27:02 <kpreid> I shoulda published that idea :)
18:27:54 <sbp> butcha didna!
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18:40:42 <Monty> howdy, Gromgul1
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18:43:14 *** jcowan changed the topic to: "Weeding Bells || nick nack paddywhack, jcowan here at last"
18:43:28 <jcowan> Ittywhonk!
18:46:03 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Weeding Bells"
18:46:23 <jcowan> sbp?
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18:54:55 * sbp puzzles over the "2003-05-21" in http://inamidst.com/misc/swigmediachat for a bit before discovering that he must've meant 2006-03-21... scary
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18:57:14 <sbp> search referer: [the application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusal way last chaos]
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19:01:16 <kpreid> "last chaos" like "last Thursday"
19:02:30 <sbp> hehe. dunno
19:02:37 <sbp> like all good art, it's open to interpretation I guess
19:02:43 <sbp> .gc sweaterdresses
19:02:46 <phenny> sweaterdresses: 1,740
19:02:53 <sbp> (completely left-hand on qwerty)
19:22:56 <xover> http://www.physorg.com/news100445957.html
19:22:59 <xover> Thank you.
19:23:03 <xover> Just…
19:23:08 <xover> Thank you!
19:23:43 <sbp> heh, heh
19:23:51 <sbp> and man, we need to feed you more news
19:24:27 <xover> Nah. Just filter it better.
19:26:41 <sbp> Swhack - the coffee filter... for news
19:27:15 <xover> Swhack - The gunk left in the coffee filter...
19:28:08 <sbp> .gc Swunk
19:28:11 <phenny> Swunk: 10,700
19:28:24 <xover> .gc swank
19:28:26 <phenny> swank: 6,660,000
19:28:37 <xover> .gc swhank
19:28:39 <phenny> swhank: 620
19:28:39 <sbp> .gc swanky
19:28:42 <phenny> swanky: 2,410,000
19:28:52 <sbp> (swanky being a fairly common word. wonder if it's in the OED?)
19:29:15 <_hex_> .gc swanked
19:29:18 <phenny> swanked: 11,500
19:29:29 <_hex_> .gc swanker
19:29:31 <phenny> swanker: 45,700
19:29:35 <_hex_> hmm.
19:29:51 <_hex_> .gc swhacked
19:29:52 <phenny> swhacked: 81
19:30:07 <sbp> huh. two nouns and two adjectives for swanky
19:30:29 <sbp> second noun is "Small beer, or other poor or weak liquor."
19:31:09 <sbp> the sense I know, adjective: "Swaggering; ‘swagger’, pretentiously grand. Also, boastful. Of things: imposing, stylish, ‘posh’.", from at least the mid 1800s
19:33:45 <sbp> heh, the OED does that a lot. they give the etymology of swanky as swank n.2, but then swank n.2 turns out to be not as old, so they're just conjecturing that the noun came before the adjective. I wonder if it *really* turns out to be that probable?
19:34:09 <sbp> .gc swankpot
19:34:10 <phenny> swankpot: 860
19:34:54 <_hex_> .gc swankle
19:34:55 <phenny> swankle: 148
19:35:02 <_hex_> .gc swanklish
19:35:03 <phenny> swanklish: 3
19:35:09 <_hex_> whoot!
19:35:28 <sbp> 'ello _hex_. just gotta get it down to one now
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19:36:06 * sbp wonders how crschmidt and jessica are doing
19:36:16 <_hex_> ah, the knot was tied?
19:36:23 <sbp> yep, should've been by now
19:36:37 <sbp> no web feed though, so we can't know for sure
19:36:38 <_hex_> .gc swankling
19:36:39 <phenny> swankling: 6
19:36:55 <_hex_> "I still remember the time I was caught in a taxi from Entebbe with these women who were swankling groundnuts."
19:37:13 <sbp> heh, groundnuts. all the rage
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19:42:28 <sbp> .compare [site:twitter.com *] [site:jaiku.com *]
19:42:28 <phenny> site:twitter.com * (716,000), site:jaiku.com * (425,000)
19:44:35 <_hex_> This twittervision 3d thing is dizzying.
19:44:45 <sbp> .g twittervision
19:44:46 <phenny> sbp: http://twittervision.com/
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19:45:18 <sbp> huh. that's pretty fun
19:45:45 <sbp> would be good if you could use it on a particular group of people a la an irc channel
19:46:07 <Ash> boring
19:46:09 <Ash> BORING
19:46:11 <_hex_> I was having almost exactly the same thought.
19:46:25 * jcowan finds most 3d sites painful to the eye.
19:46:28 <_hex_> http://freeearth.poly9.com/ # it's powered by this
19:50:09 * perigrin can't remember now if it was jsled or jcowan who had the rabbits.
19:50:18 <perigrin> grr ... I hate when my memory goes poof.
19:50:28 <jcowan> I had rabbits at one time, but I'm not sure if it's the relevant occasion.
19:50:37 <sbp> 2007-06-04 03:51:40 <jsled> You'd think I'd know better, with 5 rabbits in the house.
19:50:43 <perigrin> sbp, thanks
19:50:45 <sbp> np
19:50:59 <sbp> heh:
19:51:00 <sbp> 2004-06-02 21:50:16 <jsled> you know that rabbit in Holy Grail? All koalas are like that.
19:51:19 <mumbles> hehe you guys might find this ammusing - www.alt-f4.co.uk
19:51:20 <perigrin> phenny, tell jsled I'm 90% sure my rabbit is a Californian Rex
19:51:22 <phenny> perigrin: I'll pass that on when jsled is around.
19:51:24 <sbp> 2004-04-26 00:03:45 <jsled> Hmm... now that I've quit smoking and am getting my sense of smell back, I notice that I have 4 fucking rabbits.
19:51:34 <mumbles> hahah
19:51:40 <sbp> two of whom seem to have produced a rabbitlet
19:51:40 <mumbles> soon to be 8
19:51:48 <sbp> well he's up to five, so...
19:52:00 <perigrin> mumbles, apparently a female rex can produce 50 kittens a year.
19:52:11 <perigrin> which is ... yeah scary.
19:52:39 <sbp> man, jsled says some hilarious shit about rabbits
19:52:40 <sbp> 2006-03-02 03:21:02 <jsled> Usako, a life-sized rabbit mannequin used to practice S&M techniques, was hand-made by a bar employee using recycled pillows
19:52:56 <kpreid> twittervision: egad
19:53:13 <kpreid> I mean, the technology is obvious, but the application is ...
19:53:50 <sbp> freeearth: ugh, fahrenheit
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19:58:18 <_hex_> sbp: yeah, I was looking for the celsius switch but failed
19:59:54 <_hex_> The news application is pretty swish.
20:00:07 <_hex_> Combine that with the embedded video for the win.
20:00:36 <mumbles> i am so bored
20:08:16 <jcowan> It's very boring to announce how bored you are.
20:11:06 <sbp> huh, I've been having a good writing season, but for some reason I can't cobble together a simple announcement about a simple social engineering thing all of a sudden
20:11:45 <sbp> I think it's because I don't entirely know what I want to say. perhaps I should work on that first!
20:15:06 <kpreid> .gc "reverse social engineering"
20:15:08 <phenny> "reverse social engineering": 637
20:16:01 <sbp> heh
20:16:09 <Ash> .reverse "reverse social engineering"
20:16:17 <Ash> what, no reverse function?
20:16:29 <sbp> I think Supybot might have that
20:16:33 <sbp> @reverse loldongs
20:16:33 <supybot> sbp: Error: The command "reverse" is available in the Filter and Format plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "reverse".
20:16:37 <sbp> ugh
20:16:41 <sbp> @format reverse loldongs
20:16:42 <supybot> sbp: loldongs
20:16:46 <sbp> @filter reverse loldongs
20:16:46 <supybot> sbp: sgnodlol
20:16:49 <mumbles> anyone understand flash and inserting flvs into a site?
20:16:50 <Ash> .eval "reverse social engineering".reverse()
20:16:52 <sbp> okay, now we're talking
20:17:11 <sbp> reversing a string in python is nuts
20:17:19 <kpreid> > reverse "reverse social engineering"
20:17:26 <sbp> .eval ''.join(reversed("reverse social engineering"))
20:17:28 <swhask> "gnireenigne laicos esrever"
20:17:28 <phenny> 'gnireenigne laicos esrever'
20:17:57 <kpreid> > (unwords . transpose . words) "gnireenigne laicos esrever"
20:18:00 <swhask> "gle nas iir rce eov ese nr i g n e"
20:19:42 <sbp> .eval ''.join("reverse social engineering"[-1::-1])
20:19:44 <phenny> 'gnireenigne laicos esrever'
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20:20:09 <Monty> it's est!
20:20:51 <xover> .t est
20:20:53 <phenny> Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:20:30 EST
20:21:05 <xover> est, indeed.
20:21:30 <kpreid> .t tav
20:21:33 <phenny> kpreid: Sorry, I don't know about the 'tav' timezone.
20:22:47 <sbp> Tav is in Spain
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20:22:55 <kpreid> .t quote escaping' or 'weird
20:22:55 <sbp> so, UTC+2 I think
20:23:12 <kpreid> aw
20:24:06 <sbp> try en-spaces?
20:24:21 <kpreid> .t quote escaping' or 'weird
20:24:23 <phenny> kpreid: Sorry, I don't know about the 'quote escaping' or 'weird' timezone.
20:24:30 <kpreid> good ol' nbsp
20:25:18 <sbp> oh, or nbsp
20:26:24 <kpreid> .pc
20:26:26 <xover> .tavtime
20:26:26 <phenny> 00A0: NO-BREAK SPACE ( )
20:26:28 <phenny> 2695.10.4.6.5
20:26:29 <phenny> 00A0: NO-BREAK SPACE ( )
20:26:48 <kpreid> hm, okay, I should assign option-shift-space to something entertaining
20:27:09 <sbp> bah, no yi
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20:44:49 <crschmidt> about the same
20:44:51 <phenny> crschmidt: 18:23Z <sbp> ask crschmidt how married life is
20:45:55 <sbp> hehe. hello!
20:46:09 * sbp tosses confetti all over crschmidt's head
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20:48:53 * xover throws confetti in crschmidt's general direction...
20:49:59 <kpreid> > (concat . intersperse "confetti" . map return) "crschmidt"
20:50:04 <swhask> "cconfettirconfettisconfetticconfettihconfettimconfettiiconfettidconfettit"
20:50:58 * xover googles for either the .torrent or the YouTube of the wedding...
20:54:14 * kpreid laughs at http://crschmidt.livejournal.com/402950.html
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21:05:42 <d8uv> [[[
21:05:45 <d8uv> 12:49 < xover> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:45 <d8uv> [... - sbp]
21:05:45 <d8uv> 12:49 < sbp> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:45 <d8uv> 12:50 < kpreid> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:45 <d8uv> 12:50 * xover googles for either the .torrent or the YouTube of the wedding...
21:05:47 <d8uv> 12:51 < xover> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:50 <d8uv> [... - sbp]
21:05:52 <d8uv> 12:52 < kpreid> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:55 <d8uv> 12:52 < kpreid> [off] [... - sbp]
21:05:57 <d8uv> [... - sbp]
21:06:00 <d8uv> 12:52 < sbp> [off] [... - sbp]
21:06:02 <d8uv> 12:52 < sbp> [off] [... - sbp]
21:06:05 <d8uv> ]]]
21:06:47 <kpreid> sbp: hey, log editing time!
21:06:49 <sbp> * xover dusts off his hands
21:06:51 <sbp> indeed so!
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21:11:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Topic for #swhack is: Weeding Bells
21:11:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: loggy d8uv est JibberJim SinDoc jcowan rob1n MoiraA tobbez tro piotch_ idickinson dmiles_afk +swhask kpreid +eel martiancode schepers eikeon sr Jabberwock Xavier Schuyler _hex_ mumbles KragenSitaker chandler phenny ido tortoise_ crschmidt xower bear_afk bpt nicomen jsled +swhacker bpt` +JibbyBot kandinski Ash zool maxkelley_ Tene +supybot Xanthor[aw] trousers_ +dahut thelsdj maxkelley Emeka aspect_ trotek +lisppaste2 Arnia AeroLeviathan
21:11:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: deltab bpt`` jewel__ xover Morbus edsu sbp +Monty
21:11:20 <nicomen> maybe add "> [off]" to svg-logger
21:11:27 <nicomen> err -svg
21:11:41 <sbp> kpreid: done
21:11:44 <sbp> d8uv: hi!
21:12:02 <kpreid> nicomen: interesting idea. runs a risk of use/mention errors though
21:12:08 <sbp> yeah
21:12:10 <sbp> and more fun this way
21:13:27 <sbp> I have thought about making [off] register in the logs
21:13:34 <sbp> as something like <person> [comment not logged]
21:13:42 <sbp> just so we know when such banter is taking place
21:13:52 <thelsdj> i fell down the stairs and the iron ball i was dragging around on a chain fell on my head and killed me
21:13:55 <thelsdj> (nethack)
21:13:57 <sbp> [comment not logged]
21:14:09 <mumbles> :P
21:14:10 <kpreid> sbp: or any series of such just shows up as "..."
21:14:11 <d8uv> Or you could just, you know, ignore the [off]
21:14:16 <kpreid> i.e. no names
21:14:24 <d8uv> Publish it all
21:14:28 <sbp> thelsdj: hehe. also http://d8uv.org/flog/2007-06#t1181372799
21:14:40 <sbp> d8uv: AaronSw used to!
21:14:50 <sbp> we had two loggers with two different comment syntaxes. heh
21:15:17 <thelsdj> ha
21:15:24 <d8uv> Goddamn that comic is awful
21:16:52 <nicomen> maybe:
21:17:12 <nicomen> I love you guys! <off>haha I'm just kidding you retards!</off>
21:17:59 <sbp> we could use <blink> for that in the logs
21:18:29 <d8uv> <to recipent="nicomen">Yes! We need more XML in the logs!</to>
21:19:17 <kpreid> someday I'm going to write a threaded chat UI
21:19:25 <d8uv> <to recipent="nicomen" type="sarcastic" towards="an idiot">Typing XML isn't hard at all!</to>
21:21:35 <nicomen> idiots don't deserve to not be logged anyway
21:22:10 <nicomen> haha you forgot [off] is case-sensitive
21:22:14 <nicomen> try [Off]
21:22:37 <nicomen> [off] do you see this in the logs?
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21:23:13 <sbp> yep
21:23:27 <thelsdj> loggy: pointer
21:23:27 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2007-06-09#T21-23-27
21:24:13 <thelsdj> I second the idea of having a placeholder for [off] lines
21:24:59 <nicomen> or better insert random sentences
21:25:10 <sbp> that's what we have Monty for
21:25:11 <Monty> -bbc "The 'useless' article
21:25:29 <xover> Heh. Use Zippy quotes!
21:26:26 <nicomen> .cp DD 73 66 73
21:26:29 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'DD 73 66 73'.
21:26:34 <nicomen> err
21:27:00 <nicomen> what's the opposite of bytes?
21:27:37 <nicomen> 0000
21:27:39 <sbp> antibytes
21:27:48 <nicomen> xxxx
21:27:54 <sbp> they annihilate to form bytergy
21:28:46 <nicomen> Ýsfs
21:28:57 <sbp> .acronym sfs
21:28:59 <phenny> SENDS FEVEROUS SKIRTS
21:29:05 <sbp> yeah baby
21:29:13 <nicomen> abcdefghijklmnopqrtuvwxyz
21:29:33 <sbp> you missed s
21:30:00 <nicomen> þÿ
21:30:05 <nicomen> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
21:30:15 <nicomen> oh those would probably work
21:30:17 <nicomen> hm
21:30:24 <nicomen> æøå
21:30:34 <nicomen> bah
21:30:38 <nicomen> BOM-proof
21:30:49 <sbp> what the heck are you doi... aha. stuff with bytes I can't see
21:31:18 <nicomen> I tried setting the chraset of the following characters to UTFEDBDIC firt
21:31:25 <nicomen> then utf-32 big endian
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21:34:55 <Monty> But what does perigrin have to do with the price of fish?
21:34:57 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
21:34:58 <Monty> chewing gum == smells;
21:35:11 <nicomen> eel: help
21:35:14 <eel> # value: ? help
21:35:15 <eel> # Shows this message.
21:35:16 <eel> # ? help(<expression>)
21:35:17 <eel> # Shows what messages the expression's value responds to.
21:35:18 <eel> # ? rune(["--help"])
21:35:19 <eel> # For help on running external commands
21:35:20 <eel> ...
21:35:28 <nicomen> what kind of E is that I wonder
21:35:51 <kpreid> http://www.erights.org/
21:37:25 <nicomen> I used to program in E
21:37:31 <nicomen> but that's not the same E
21:37:49 <kpreid> yup. people need to stop calling programming languages E
21:38:01 <kpreid> maybe now that there are D, E, and F# we can move on to G
21:38:11 <kpreid> .gc "the G programming language"
21:38:14 <phenny> "the G programming language": 1,430
21:38:16 <kpreid> .gc "the H programming language"
21:38:19 <phenny> "the H programming language": 1
21:38:20 <kpreid> .gc "the I programming language"
21:38:23 <phenny> "the I programming language": 4
21:38:25 <kpreid> .gc "the J programming language"
21:38:28 <phenny> "the J programming language": 2,570
21:38:29 <kpreid> .gc "the K programming language"
21:38:31 <phenny> "the K programming language": 1,290
21:38:33 <kpreid> .gc "the L programming language"
21:38:36 <phenny> "the L programming language": 93
21:38:58 <kpreid> .gc "the M programming language"
21:39:01 <phenny> "the M programming language": 770
21:39:03 <kpreid> .gc "the N programming language"
21:39:06 <phenny> "the N programming language": 7
21:39:27 <_hex_> .gc "the omega programming language"
21:39:29 <phenny> "the omega programming language": 121
21:39:49 <_hex_> .gc "the ø programming language"
21:39:51 <phenny> "the ø programming language": 0
21:39:55 <_hex_> heh
21:47:58 <d8uv> .g "the best programming language"
21:48:01 <phenny> d8uv: http://unspun.amazon.com/list/show/1045
21:48:21 <d8uv> It's ruby
21:49:54 <d8uv> A comment on Ruby states that "Every programmer knows it, nothing yo ucan't do with it."
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21:58:24 <thelsdj> http://lolbots.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/hayhafsumt00lz.jpg
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22:12:44 <_hex_> .g "the worst programming language"
22:12:46 <phenny> _hex_: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/ACM/3497.html
22:13:02 <_hex_> bah, brainfuck
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22:15:20 <Tene> .g malbolge programming language
22:15:22 <phenny> Tene: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge
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23:54:53 <Tene> .gc rustycute
23:54:56 <phenny> rustycute: 1
