00:04:08 <thelsdj> seems to me that eRDF is better as a target of a template rather than the source
00:04:49 <thelsdj> though i'm sure you could find a way to turn it upside down
00:05:59 <Arnia> If I request a path, say http://www.example.com/foo/bar, then the server would look for a template for the type of that resource
00:06:39 <Arnia> It would then go through, following the eRDF annotations, in order to fill in the blanks treating that resource as the base
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00:10:09 * thelsdj checks out episode 2 of Masters of Science Fiction
00:10:39 <Arnia> Is that a sly comment?
00:11:03 <thelsdj> not particularly heheh
00:11:56 * Arnia is eating toast with orange blossom honey
00:12:00 <Arnia> From Marks and Sparks
00:12:57 <thelsdj> I'm too embarassed to say what I'm eating
00:18:18 <thelsdj> nice, this episode has cigarette smoking man from x-files and locke from lost
00:20:59 <thelsdj> colm meany is going to play gene hunt in the US version of life on mars
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00:36:02 <KragenSitaker> .ety penis
00:36:05 <phenny> "1676, perhaps from Fr. pénis or directly from L. penis 'penis,' earlier 'tail' (cf. Eng. tail in both senses, the sexual one slang), from PIE *pes-/*pesos- 'penis' (cf. Skt. pasas-, Gk. peos, posthe 'penis,' probably also O.E. fæsl 'progeny, offspring,' O.N. fösull, [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=penis
00:46:22 <est> KragenSitaker: :o
00:46:36 <KragenSitaker> the O-face!
00:47:58 <est> sounds like you've gotten to the..back end part of orbit
00:48:33 <KragenSitaker> the back end of a compiler is an out hole, not an in hole
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01:28:56 <l7__> .wik foo
01:28:58 <phenny> "Foo is a metasyntactic variable used heavily in computer science to represent concepts abstractly and can be used to represent any part of a complicated system or idea including the data, variables, functions, and commands." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo
01:29:00 <l7__> hmm
01:34:19 <crschmidt> hah. typing this on the olpc
01:34:25 <crschmidt> (sshed into crschmidt.net)
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01:35:40 <perigrin> heh
01:42:52 <kpreid> OLPCrschmidt
01:44:04 <crschmidt> indeed
01:44:28 <crschmidt> if it didn\t hate my router so much, i might even be able to install irssi directly on it
01:44:43 <crschmidt> it's essentially just a FC machine
01:46:38 <crschmidt> it seems like the olpc presence sharing stuff is based on telepathy
01:46:48 <crschmidt> which i had never heard of until a couple hours ago
01:47:09 <Mike_L> telepathy?
01:47:36 <kpreid> http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/
01:47:43 <crschmidt> yep
01:48:02 <crschmidt> sorry, touch typing and moving quickly do not happen on this little keyboard :)
01:48:40 <Mike_L> so it's another XMPP?
01:51:29 <crschmidt> no
01:51:49 <crschmidt> it's a dbus abstraction layer over xmpp and other im services
01:52:46 * kpreid would like to see less complete-stack-reinvention
01:56:10 * Mike_L would like to see more SCTP implementation
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04:16:15 <Monty> But what does eikeon have to do with the price of fish?
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04:16:32 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
04:16:35 <Monty> yes I run it off and we got "danish"..."?
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04:17:27 <bjoern_> ""Behavior Detection Officers" are now watching passengers\rquote facial expressions for signs of danger." - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20298840/site/newsweek/
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04:20:24 <bjoern_> They are looking for JAVA PROGRAMMERS to write software to run our NUCLEAR power plants.
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04:38:26 <bjoern_> "How Much Are Ad Servers Slowing the Web?" - Tags: onlyidiotsdontblockthem, internet, onlythievesblockthem, alot, hostsfile
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04:40:50 <Monty> Thank goodness, cskaterun is back!
04:40:51 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
04:40:54 <Monty> are used in relative real-time
04:41:55 <Mike_L> Monty: fix my Crappy Comcast Internet service, please!
04:41:58 <Monty> I reckon Wesley Snipes + autobiography = hardcore romanticism!
04:42:20 <Mike_L> Monty: once again, you read my mind :D
04:42:24 <Monty> surname's majestic flour stalks jockstrap's global sexual organs.
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04:57:21 <Monty> lo mah
04:58:33 <bjoern_> phenny, "I reckon Wesley Snipes + autobiography = hardcore romanticism!"?
04:58:37 <phenny> bjoern_: Hmm, got "czech"...
04:58:52 <bjoern_> phenny, "This is english. I reckon Wesley Snipes + autobiography = hardcore romanticism!"?
04:58:57 <phenny> bjoern_: "This is English. I Wesley the + = romance hard center calculate autobiography transmission the pursuit because of schnepfen!" (en -...-> en)
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05:52:26 <Monty> But what does jetscreamer have to do with the price of fish?
05:52:29 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
05:52:31 <Monty> Now having thought this one ;p
05:52:55 <jetscreamer> i am the fishgod Monty
05:52:57 <Monty> google_ad_section_start: 141,000
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05:53:18 <Monty> it's l7!
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06:26:09 <Monty> howdy, mah
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07:15:50 <sbp> the Lo and Behold! proof copy came
07:16:08 <sbp> I'm disappointed with Lulu: there are vertical black lines running across about 25% of the pages
07:16:15 <sbp> that's really not proessional quality at all
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07:17:03 <sbp> another problem is that, even though I followed their instructions with scary geometric precision, the cover is offset by about three quarters of an inch or something. which is a lot
07:17:16 <sbp> that I can fix, at least. black lines running down the page I cannot fix
07:17:30 <sbp> good thing: the cover quality is better than I expected. it's not only glossy, it's kinda embossed
07:17:53 <thelsdj> "He kissed her?" "Dude, he totally Banderas'd-- Banderized--" "No, do _not_ try to conjugate 'Antonio Banderas' as a verb." "You're not the booss of my words. Anyway, he was verrrry smooth." -- Blue Beetle #17 by John Rogers
07:18:20 <sbp> hehe
07:18:32 <thelsdj> Also: "See, if Jaime has this British Girl--" "No no no. Hawwwwwt Asian girl with a british accent. Totally new combo, which rocks."
07:18:45 <thelsdj> I had a conversation not 2 weeks ago about that very combo, weird
07:19:05 <thelsdj> he's got his finger on the pulse of something or other
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07:20:19 <thelsdj> that vertical black lines thing is weird
07:20:51 <thelsdj> i wonder if just a bad print or something, but you'd think they would quality control that type of shit, especially for proofs!
07:21:23 <sbp> yeah, it's definitely print smudge
07:21:39 <sbp> it's not like a think black like, like it was printed on purpose or anything
07:22:02 <sbp> it's kinda hard to explain, but I've seen it before very rarely on shittily printed products, like some newspapers etc.
07:22:06 <thelsdj> you going to do another proof?
07:22:26 <sbp> yeah. what I think I'll do is fix the cover and order three more copies
07:22:30 <sbp> and see what the quality of those is like
07:22:42 <sbp> at the very least I need to send something to the ISSN centre
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07:29:23 <thelsdj> do you ever mean to type in one website address and type another?
07:29:30 <thelsdj> I meant to type paypal, and typed youtube
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07:30:50 <bjoern_> phenny, ""See, if Jaime has this British Girl--" "No no no. Hawwwwwt Asian girl with a british accent. Totally new combo, which rocks.""?
07:30:56 <phenny> bjoern_: ""No there is no" girl this English in Jaime if ", you see. No.. girl Asian of Hawwwwwt of the English accent. Entire it is new, being connected, as for the vibration. "" (en -...-> en)
07:31:49 <bjoern_> mah's join/leave pattern reminds me of CrapZilla
07:31:54 <thelsdj> vibration!
07:32:00 <bjoern_> except for the missing __________s
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07:34:14 <bjoern_> phenny, "Ich hab so grossen Hunger, ich koennte einen ganzen Baeren verdruecken"?
07:34:17 <phenny> bjoern_: "I have so large hunger, I could a whole bear press" (de)
07:34:31 <bjoern_> phenny, "I have so large hunger, I could a whole bear press"?
07:34:35 <phenny> bjoern_: "I have, therefore large hunger the ま publication was achieved I without perfection" (en -...-> en)
07:34:56 <bjoern_> .pc ま
07:34:59 <phenny> 307E: HIRAGANA LETTER MA (ま)
07:35:33 <sbp> oh! I just worked something out that's been bugging me
07:35:33 <thelsdj> ま
07:35:49 <sbp> question: why was '80s kids' television so good?
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07:36:05 <sbp> answer: because the people who produced it were kids *during the '60s*
07:36:33 <sbp> so I wonder if people growing up in the '80s... hmm...
07:36:40 <sbp> good kids' TV resurgence in the next ten years?
07:38:05 <bjoern_> I'd have thought it's because they made television for kids then, and for consumers now.
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07:39:07 <sbp> which is still subsumed by the '60s revelation, I think
07:40:08 <thelsdj> yea but what happens when its produced by people who were kids during the '90's?
07:40:40 <sbp> clearly that generation's kids will grow up sick and tormented
07:40:43 <bjoern_> Searching for Pokemon in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games I wouldn't be so sure...
07:40:51 <sbp> so in 1990 + 30 + 30 years...
07:40:56 <sbp> by 2050 expect carnage
07:41:02 <sbp> as if global warming wasn't bad enough
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07:44:21 * thelsdj goes back to reading Pogo
07:45:46 * sbp -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo#.22We_have_met_the_enemy.....22
07:47:24 <thelsdj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo#Backlash_and_fluffy_little_bunnies
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07:51:03 <thelsdj> "Fellow wins two _elephants_ in a raffle an' brings 'em home tellin' his wife they is _dogs_... 'What kind of dogs is _these_?' she asks.. 'Boxers,' he says, 'can't you see their _trunks_?"
07:52:18 <thelsdj> "Ridiculous on the _face_ of it... _Who_ would raffle off a pair of _elephants_?" "One mebbe, but _two_-?"
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08:00:36 <sbp> http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/ - forcing people to change their User-Agent strings too?
08:01:03 <sbp> and yeah, I don't believe that two elephants would be raffled off
08:01:10 <sbp> unless they were intended to keep one another company
08:01:44 <thelsdj> I'm clearly on the side of blocking whatever shit I want, the web is pull, you can spam me if you want to push advertisements
08:02:38 <thelsdj> I have yet to actually visit a site that forwards to that, I doubt it willy really catch on
08:02:55 <sbp> http://climateprogress.org/2007/08/16/must-read-from-hansen-stop-the-madness-about-the-tiny-revision-in-nasas-temperature-data/
08:03:01 <bjoern_> "Software that blocks all advertisement is an infringement of the rights of web site owners and developers."
08:03:03 <bjoern_> But is it?
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08:03:10 <Monty> hi mah
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08:05:17 <thelsdj> do website owners and developers have any writes specific to them?
08:05:22 <thelsdj> er rights
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08:08:19 <Monty> But what does mah have to do with the price of fish?
08:08:21 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
08:08:23 <Monty> s/ http://www.ltbfoundation.org
08:08:32 <sbp> normal ones like defamation rules and slander and so on, of course
08:08:34 <sbp> [[[
08:08:35 <sbp> The EU target of ensuring 10% of petrol and diesel comes from renewable sources by 2020 is not an effective way to curb carbon emissions, researchers say.
08:08:36 <sbp> A team of UK-based scientists suggested that reforestation and habitat protection was a better option.
08:08:36 <sbp> Writing in Science, they said forests could absorb up to nine times more CO2 than the production of biofuels could achieve on the same area of land.
08:08:40 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6949861.stm
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08:11:34 <thelsdj> The Pogo I have is from '57 and '58
08:13:07 <bjoern_> Well the argument that I could see is, ad blocking plugins are not much different from setting up an unauthorized example-com-without-ads.com mirror of example.com.
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08:13:45 <bjoern_> On the other hand, loading example.com in lynx likely also filters out all the ads.
08:14:42 <sbp> must... buy... xp... http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/3831/1157/240/320112/gse_multipart10985.jpg
08:15:15 <bjoern_> ...
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08:15:32 <sbp> from http://www.populartechnology.net/2005/01/firefox-new-religion.html
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08:18:52 <sbp> "if every permutation of a Rubik's Cube was lined up end to end, it would stretch out approximately 261 light years" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_cube
08:20:11 <bjoern_> ... you just have to make the gaps wide enough.
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08:30:35 <bjoern_> .wik God's algorithm
08:30:37 <phenny> "God's algorithm is a notion originating in discussions of ways to solve the Rubik's Cube puzzle, but which can also be applied to other combinatorial puzzles and mathematical games." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God's_algorithm
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08:34:11 <Monty> bah, it's mah again
08:34:47 <bjoern_> phenny, "God's algorithm is a notion originating in discussions of ways to solve the Rubik's Cube puzzle, but which can also be applied to other combinatorial puzzles and mathematical games."?
08:34:57 <phenny> bjoern_: "The word which as for algorithm of God with the method argument ending, the play of perplexity of the cube of Rubiks can develop, use in the play and the mathematical play of perplexity of combination of other things solves in addition." (en -...-> en)
08:35:10 <thelsdj> gnome terminal thinks the ' in that link is a separator, ends its url detection at the the d
08:35:31 <bjoern_> it's wrong! ' is perfectly legal in urls.
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08:37:41 <sbp> yes. WRONG
08:39:18 <thelsdj> my guess is it does it that way as a simplified way of dealing with stuff like: 'http://example.com/'
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08:39:23 <Monty> hi mah, how ya doing?
08:39:25 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
08:39:29 <Monty> garlic's erroneous disconnection gives birth to simulator's monthly hectometres!
08:39:43 <bjoern_> phenny, "garlic's erroneous disconnection gives birth to simulator's monthly hectometres!"?
08:39:47 <phenny> bjoern_: "Inaccurate separation of the garlic gives the origin to Monatshectometres of the simulator!" (en -...-> en)
08:40:46 <thelsdj> does that use a random language path or a specific one or what?
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08:41:28 <bjoern_> I think it's non-random, and specifically en -> de -> en -> ja -> en but sbp knows better
08:42:05 <bjoern_> Clearly in the above it used german (monthly -> Monats...)
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08:44:33 <Monty> hey mah
08:44:40 <sbp> yes, that's the path
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08:50:00 <sbp> fact of the day:
08:50:00 <sbp> "Col. Blood, who stole the crown in Charles II.'s reign, died in a house in Bowling-Alley, Dean's Yard Street, Westminster, August 24, 1680."
08:50:24 <sbp> - Humphrey J. Dingley (1893, p.35), Touchers and Rubs on Ye Anciente Royale Game of Bowles
08:50:54 <sbp> cf. http://www.booksonbowls.co.uk/touchers.htm
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09:03:54 <bjoern_> .origin mah
09:04:14 <phenny> First saw mahangu_ on #swhack at 2006-01-24 03:43:59, who then first said 'hello' (see http://swhack.com/logs/2006-01-24#T03-43-59)
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09:45:59 <laplink> .cp bullet
09:46:02 <phenny> 2022: BULLET (•)
09:46:05 <phenny> 2023: TRIANGULAR BULLET (‣)
09:46:08 <phenny> 2043: HYPHEN BULLET (⁃) [...]
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09:46:45 <bjoern_> .cp ^2619
09:46:46 <phenny> 2619: REVERSED ROTATED FLORAL HEART BULLET (☙)
09:47:11 <bjoern_> Whoa look at this:
09:47:13 <bjoern_> .cp ^29E6
09:47:15 <phenny> 29E6: GLEICH STARK (⧦)
09:47:57 <bjoern_> .cp ^29F[EF]
09:47:59 <phenny> 29FE: TINY (⧾)
09:48:02 <phenny> 29FF: MINY (⧿)
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09:50:16 <bjoern_> Could anyone give me a rough idea of how many 32 bit integer and 32 bit float additions per second some up to date desktop intel processor can perform?
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09:52:42 * laplink tries to imagine who would happen to know that, not to mention why…
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09:54:00 <bjoern_> Well I am more interested in the ratio really; if I switch from ints to floats, how much slower would it be?
09:54:26 <bjoern_> from http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-htl/ it would seem there is a ~1:2 relationship on single CPU xeons.
09:56:00 <laplink> Hmm. Optimizing for a different goal?
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09:57:07 <bjoern_> I am wondering whether I can eliminate control flow by relying on NaN + x = NaN
09:57:19 <laplink> IIRC, you can potentially optimize the operation by turning it into a vector and handing it off to the SSE-type bits of the CPU.
09:57:32 <laplink> (which works with floats)
09:58:03 <bjoern_> there is also SIMD and such, yes...
09:58:13 <bjoern_> with a good gpu one might just use that too!
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09:59:14 <laplink> For which there seems to be a few pre-built libraries now, yes, but I'm not sure what sorts of things would gain performance by using that trick.
10:00:12 <bjoern_> Well at the moment I am not sure this isn't a stupid idea altogether
10:00:49 <bjoern_> If the 1:2 figure is not too far off, I'd be fine
10:00:57 <bjoern_> if it's more liek 1:10 then probably not
10:01:24 <bjoern_> at the moment it's the control flow that's killing it
10:01:47 <bjoern_> not that I am optimizing anything important though
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10:02:16 <laplink> Hmm. How does “NaN + x = NaN” translate into int vs. float?
10:02:38 <deltab> ints don't have NaN
10:02:49 <deltab> oh, I see what you mean
10:03:20 <bjoern_> I would use e.g. -1 for NaN and have lots of "if (x < 0) ..."
10:03:31 <bjoern_> to avoid making the addition in the first place
10:03:42 <bjoern_> with NaN I can drop the test
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10:04:06 <bjoern_> which isn't unlikely to compensate for the fewer additions per second
10:04:17 <deltab> well, try it
10:06:48 <bjoern_> I would, if I wouldn't have to convert the Perl into C code, since my version of Perl does not seem to have NaN support...
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10:09:04 * laplink was assuming this was already in C…
10:10:55 <laplink> I'm not sure this kind of optimization is even conceptually comparable betwen Perl and C…
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10:24:38 <Monty> lo MoiraA
10:25:00 <MoiraA> greetings Monty
10:25:02 <Monty> en but their instructions with three more copies
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10:43:08 <Arnia> "Who wants a forgiving parser anyways? You write something with semi-broken syntax and test it in forgiving browser X and then it doesn't work in less forgiving browser Y. I fail to see what's supposed to be good about that."
10:43:08 <Arnia> -- http://kaioa.com/node/16
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10:45:08 <bjoern_> http://nsharporg.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/esc.jpg
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10:58:15 <sbp> esc.jpg: hehe
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11:23:17 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to do something for THE MORB
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11:42:34 <bjoern_> .calc 29^2
11:42:35 <phenny> 29^2 = 841
11:42:43 <bjoern_> .calc 29^2 * 4
11:42:43 <phenny> (29^2) * 4 = 3 364
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12:01:24 <sbp> phenny: tell mah AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
12:01:27 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when mah is around.
12:02:18 <KragenSitaker> hi sbp
12:02:29 <sbp> 'ello KragenSitaker
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12:02:55 <sbp> what's up? any tidbittery to share?
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12:04:13 <KragenSitaker> well, i've been enjoying working on orbswarm
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12:06:21 <sbp> oh? what's that?
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12:08:15 <KragenSitaker> oh, six one-meter spherical robots
12:08:29 <KragenSitaker> http://www.orbswarm.com/
12:10:56 <KragenSitaker> looks like we won't have the actual autonomous control stuff working by the ship date
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12:11:08 <sbp> heh, I like its manifesto
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12:18:26 <laplink> .weather ENTC
12:18:29 <phenny> ENTC at 13:50 (11:50Z): Cloudy, 10℃, 1002mb, Light breeze 2m/s (4kt) (↑)
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12:22:28 <KragenSitaker> tonight i was soldering connectors, screwing on DIN-9 serial ports, etc.
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12:25:32 <laplink> Ah, solder fumes... good times.
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12:28:15 <bjoern_> convert these tabs to spaces: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
12:28:16 <bjoern_> thanks
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12:28:28 <sbp> heheh
12:28:35 <KragenSitaker> oh, yeah, the solder smelled nice
12:29:38 <laplink> .pc
12:30:05 <laplink> .pc " "
12:30:07 <phenny> 0022: QUOTATION MARK (")
12:30:11 <phenny> 0009: <control> - CHARACTER TABULATION ( )
12:30:11 <laplink> meh
12:30:14 <phenny> 0022: QUOTATION MARK (")
12:30:26 <laplink> But not without the quotes... hmm.
12:30:46 <laplink> Doing \s+ in there?
12:31:19 <laplink> .pc
12:31:46 <laplink> .cp TAB
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12:31:49 <phenny> 0009: <control> - CHARACTER TABULATION ( )
12:31:52 <phenny> 000B: <control> - LINE TABULATION ( )
12:31:55 <phenny> 0088: <control> - CHARACTER TABULATION SET () [...]
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12:38:50 * bjoern_ turns Perl into C, speed goes from 900/s to 22376/s ...
12:42:07 <KragenSitaker> the CVS repository for orbswarm contains 25000 lines of code
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12:42:13 <KragenSitaker> according to david a. wheeler's sloccount
12:42:29 <KragenSitaker> phenny, tell mah that their constant signing on and off is very annoying
12:42:32 <phenny> KragenSitaker: I'll pass that on when mah is around.
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12:48:30 <Arnia> This is very unlike the Daily Wail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=476097&in_page_id=1879
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12:50:50 <Monty> yo kpreid!
12:52:07 <kpreid> yo-yo Monty
12:52:08 <Monty> applicable poll results?
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13:39:07 <Monty> hi mah
13:39:57 <bjoern_> We could ban mah until his client is fixed...
13:40:19 <sbp> how would we know when his client's fixed, then?
13:40:31 <sbp> .seen mah
13:40:33 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen mah around.
13:40:38 * crschmidt just put him on ignore
13:40:38 <bjoern_> seen mah
13:40:38 <Monty> mah (n=marcel) was last seen by #swhack coming from p54857756.dip.t-dialin.net on Sat Aug 18 14:38:54 BST 2007 when joining the channel.
13:40:46 <bjoern_> ...
13:40:51 <sbp> @seen mah
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13:41:29 <bjoern_> I would have done that if supybot was around.....
13:41:47 <sbp> our bots are knoobs
13:42:32 <bjoern_> doesn't seem like mah ever said anything in #swhack...
13:42:51 <bjoern_> at least not when I was around!
13:42:58 <sbp> indeed. nothing in the logs
13:43:22 <sbp> .g "Marcel Havekost"
13:43:25 <phenny> sbp: https://launchpad.net/~havekost
13:43:27 <sbp> .gc "Marcel Havekost"
13:43:30 <phenny> "Marcel Havekost": 52
13:44:04 <sbp> .email havekost@jabber.org Your Client on Freenode is Broken // Please fix it.
13:44:07 <phenny> sbp: Sent (238 bytes).
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13:44:27 <bjoern_> Speak of the devil, it's mah!
13:44:59 <Arnia> I'm never quite sure whether to laugh or cry at: http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
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13:53:44 <sbp> .email mah@maaah.de Your Client on Freenode is Broken // Please fix it.
13:53:47 <phenny> sbp: Sent (231 bytes).
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13:55:07 <sbp> hmm, I wonder if /kb nick message works
13:55:11 <sbp> let us try, and be merry
13:55:28 <sbp> no, that did not work
13:56:08 <sbp> that apparently did, but no message. that's disappointing
13:56:16 * sbp should read some X-Chat docs one day or something
13:56:28 <sbp> the message was to be: "#kubuntu-de told me to do it!"
13:56:39 <sbp> because, well, they did
13:57:30 <sbp> [[[
13:57:31 <sbp> Aug 18 14:46:47 <sbp> moin. does anyone have an email address for "mah", please? he seems to be associated with this channel in some capacity
13:57:31 <sbp> Aug 18 14:47:26 <tobias> "de"
13:57:31 <sbp> Aug 18 14:47:35 <sbp> und die automatische übersetzung durch Google: hallo. hat jemand ein email address für „Milliamperestunde“ (Milliamperestunde?! ha. mah...), bitte? er scheint, mit dieser Führung in etwas Kapazität verbunden zu sein
13:57:32 <sbp> Aug 18 14:48:17 <sbp> tobias: ich sagte "moin". was wünschen mehr du? :-)
13:57:34 <sbp> Aug 18 14:48:23 <tobias> ;)
13:57:36 <sbp> ]]]
13:58:58 <bjoern_> Your german is better than my german.
13:59:04 <sbp> hehe
13:59:24 <sbp> what's a Milliamperestunde? Milliampere I think is obvious, but stunde?
13:59:41 <sbp> phenny: "Milliamperestunde"?
13:59:45 <phenny> sbp: Hmm, got "latin"...
13:59:53 <sbp> phenny: de "Milliamperestunde"?
13:59:55 <phenny> sbp: "Milliampere hour" (de)
14:00:17 <sbp> orly, &c.
14:00:41 <sbp> phenny: de "stunde"?
14:00:42 <Arnia> hehe
14:00:44 <phenny> sbp: "grants" (de)
14:01:01 <bjoern_> phenny, "Dies ist Deutsch. Milliamperestunde."?
14:01:05 <phenny> bjoern_: "This is German. Milliampere hour." (de)
14:01:20 <bjoern_> That tends to work quite well actually.
14:01:40 <bjoern_> .w grants
14:01:41 <phenny> grants n. 1: Any monetary aid
14:01:41 <phenny> grants v. 1: Let have
14:01:41 <phenny> grants v. 2: Give as judged due or on the basis of merit.
14:02:04 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Stunde"?
14:02:04 <phenny> bjoern_: "Hour" (de)
14:02:49 <Arnia> phenny: "Komputerwissenschafter"?
14:02:50 <phenny> Arnia: "Komputerwissenschafter" (de)
14:03:06 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Computerwissenschaftler"?
14:03:06 <phenny> bjoern_: "Computer scientist" (de)
14:03:28 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Informatiker"?
14:03:30 <phenny> bjoern_: "Computer scientist" (de)
14:03:37 <Arnia> meh, my spelling is bad in English at the moment let alone German :/
14:05:15 <sbp> mein Rechtschreibung, sie ist nicht so gut
14:05:57 <bjoern_> I'd say it's flawless! The grammar is terrible though.
14:06:40 <sbp> I used English grammar
14:06:53 <sbp> Google said to put the ist first after the comma
14:07:09 <sbp> I'm like: fette Wahrscheinlichkeit
14:07:36 <bjoern_> .gc "Fette Wahrscheinlichkeit"
14:07:38 <phenny> "Fette Wahrscheinlichkeit": 79
14:07:42 <bjoern_> .g "Fette Wahrscheinlichkeit"
14:07:45 <phenny> bjoern_: http://teachmyparents.com/german.php?u=party/free-children-birthday-party-invitation.php
14:07:55 <sbp> I'm all like nicht erhältst du alles uppity in meinem Gesicht Google, weil ich nicht für kein Sein stehen werde uppity in meinem Gesicht Google du grabe?
14:08:17 <bjoern_> You might well be.
14:08:30 <Arnia> What a wonderful phrase "gorgeous beyond lexical explanation"
14:08:36 <sbp> hehe
14:09:53 <Arnia> Gah, damn macports
14:10:05 <Arnia> expat won't stage correctly... keep getting segfaults
14:10:47 <bjoern_> .compare getamac getaibmcompatible
14:10:52 <phenny> getamac (338,000), getaibmcompatible (0)
14:11:03 <sbp> .gc getanibmcompatible
14:11:08 <phenny> getanibmcompatible: 0
14:11:19 <bjoern_> .gc getapc
14:11:22 <phenny> getapc: 462
14:11:34 <Arnia> .gc getafix
14:11:36 <phenny> getafix: 87,100
14:11:41 <sbp> .compare "International Business Machines" "Semantic Web"
14:11:44 <phenny> "Semantic Web" (16,700,000), "International Business Machines" (2,420,000)
14:11:52 <sbp> .gc Seanantic Web
14:11:55 <phenny> Seanantic Web: 2
14:12:05 <sbp> things are coming along
14:13:13 <Arnia> .gc Sianic Web
14:13:14 <bjoern_> .gc Seanmantic
14:13:16 <phenny> Sianic Web: 414
14:13:17 <phenny> Seanmantic: 0
14:13:23 <sbp> .gc circumfox
14:13:25 <phenny> circumfox: 0
14:13:38 <bjoern_> ASCENDER
14:13:42 <sbp> hehe
14:14:04 <sbp> .gc circumnox
14:14:07 <phenny> circumnox: 0
14:14:10 <sbp> boo
14:14:13 <sbp> .gc Seanomancy
14:14:14 <phenny> Seanomancy: 0
14:14:23 <sbp> .gc Bjoernomancy
14:14:24 <phenny> Bjoernomancy: 1
14:14:29 <sbp> ooh
14:14:34 <sbp> .g Bjoernomancy
14:14:35 <phenny> sbp: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-02-07
14:14:38 <sbp> ooh
14:14:49 <perigrin> .gc sbpomancy
14:14:49 <phenny> sbpomancy: 0
14:14:53 <sbp> 17:58:29 <bjoern_> <sbp> oh man. I should not be expected to divine you!
14:14:54 <sbp> 17:58:33 <bjoern_> I'm not so sure!
14:14:54 <sbp> 17:58:44 <sbp> mmm... bjoernomancy
14:15:07 <sbp> shit that I totally don't remember in the Swhack logs is often awesome
14:15:11 <perigrin> there's something circular in that
14:15:17 <sbp> yeah...
14:16:40 <sbp> phenny: "Our state-of-the-art ButterCup will keep your butter fresh and clean even if you immerse it in a stream by your campsite."?
14:16:43 <phenny> sbp: "Our states of kind キンボウゲ sinking that of the river in underwater depending upon your camp place anew, retain your butter cleanly." (en -...-> en)
14:18:34 *** bjoern_ changed the topic to: "The Stick of the Datum Point | Retain Your Butter Cleanly"
14:19:23 <sbp> topic junction!
14:25:11 <sbp> let's see what's up in the world of perl6
14:26:40 <bjoern_> .g planetsix
14:26:40 <phenny> bjoern_: http://planetsix.perl.org/
14:27:14 * Arnia lobs GHC at sbp
14:27:56 <bjoern_> phenny, "On that page, much there is not"?
14:27:59 <phenny> bjoern_: "On this side as for many there is no there" (en -...-> en)
14:28:50 <sbp> well, there's http://use.perl.org/articles/07/08/10/208220.shtml
14:29:12 <sbp> [[[
14:29:13 <sbp> Larry:
14:29:13 <sbp> * I'm trying to look omniscient
14:29:14 <sbp> ]]]
14:30:15 <Arnia> .g "Larry Wall" quotes
14:30:15 <phenny> Arnia: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Larry_Wall
14:30:31 <bjoern_> .gc wikiwall
14:30:34 <phenny> wikiwall: 1,550
14:31:27 <sbp> nice: http://dev.perl.org/perl6/list-summaries/
14:31:30 <sbp> I like how up to date it is!
14:31:45 <sbp> little better: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.announce/
14:43:44 <laplink> .g Nokia Series60 "IRC client"
14:43:46 <phenny> laplink: http://mirggi.jutut.fi/article/1553
14:49:20 <laplink> So how the hell do I tell Series60 2nd Edition from Series60 3rd Edition?
14:49:45 <bjoern_> You could ask.
14:53:53 <laplink> Ok, so the N90 is 2nd Ed., while N80 is 3rd Ed., it seems.
14:55:29 <laplink> Dear Nokia. Since the N91/93/93i/95/… has only slightly modified innards; why oh why can you not produce one in the N90 form factor?
14:56:59 <laplink> Really guys. I don't need an iPhone, nor even particularly /want/ one; but y'all are killing me with the two gazillion essentially identical models with weird assed new form factors.
14:57:35 <perigrin> all the summarizers have quit :)
14:58:50 <laplink> The N90 is nice. I like the N90. Give me a little bit larger screen and I'd shell out for the “N90 mk.II”.
14:59:29 <laplink> Make it in actual metal, instead of metal-colored plastic, and I'd shell out for the “Mk.III”.
15:00:15 <laplink> Hell, you can even drop the camera and most of the licensed apps and I'd still buy it.
15:01:40 <laplink> But just pleae, *please*, don't try to convince me that a phone designed—and I use that term loosely—around the concept of a “prism” (do you even know what that is?) is what I “really” want.
15:01:48 <bjoern_> .gc IronPhone
15:01:51 <phenny> IronPhone: 331
15:01:53 <laplink> Or comes in hot pink.
15:02:17 <bjoern_> hot pink iron might have adverse effects on your health.
15:02:21 <laplink> Or “Teal”. Or ”Sapphire”. Or some other color I have no flipping idea what is.
15:02:36 <perigrin> Chartreuse
15:03:03 <Arnia> Viridian
15:03:29 <Arnia> .g colourlovers
15:03:31 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.colourlovers.com/
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15:13:49 <bjoern_> [[[
15:13:53 <bjoern_> But even if you want to take the most religious and personal notions of God, well, in that case God is a bit more like the female orgasm than he is like Captain Picard--many people claim to have experienced it, many people think the others are either lying or crazy, and it's largely an open question as to who to believe.
15:13:55 <bjoern_> The main difference is that the female orgasm is a bit more amenable to scientific experimentation (especially if the female in question has a fetish for being experimented on!), of course, which is why we're certain about that but not so much about God.
15:14:03 <bjoern_> ]]] - /.
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15:17:41 <Moblink_> well this kind of sucks
15:18:07 <Arnia> hm
15:18:12 <bjoern_> Moblink_, asl?
15:18:16 <sbp> asl plz
15:18:28 <Moblink_> Wow. About a minutes delay.
15:18:38 * bjoern_ has a theory about Moblink_
15:18:50 <laplink> I'd guess Moblink_ is just about my age…
15:18:53 <sbp> laplink + flashmob = moblink
15:19:21 <sbp> so, laplink/laplink/laplink?
15:19:27 <Moblink_> Hmm. Faster now.
15:19:35 <sbp> .tock
15:19:36 <phenny> "Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:19:22 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
15:20:36 <bjoern_> phenny, "The main difference is that the female orgasm is a bit more amenable to scientific experimentation (especially if the female in question has a fetish for being experimented on!), of course, which is why we're certain about that but not so much about God."?
15:20:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "As for principal difference (woman of especially question fetisch of for the sake of! If it is experimented), but from scientific experiment us who means that Orgasmus of the woman whom it is easy to procure is the point the safe of the rank excessive excessive God why is, the nature which that is has." (en -...-> en)
15:20:43 <Moblink_> Telenor's GPRS net blows.
15:21:07 <sbp> Orgasmus of the Woman
15:21:21 <sbp> the next Germaine Greer novel, perhaps?
15:22:02 * Arnia feeds Greer to the Book
15:22:04 * bjoern_ wonders whether a male can have a female orgasm
15:22:14 <Arnia> bjoern_: sort of, yes
15:22:34 <Moblink_> And IRC from a cell keyboard is PAIN!
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15:22:57 <laplink> That's enough of that I think.
15:22:59 <bjoern_> You can use GRABS to make it painless!
15:23:14 <bjoern_> phenny, "And IRC from a cell keyboard is PAIN!"?
15:23:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "And IRC of the cell keyboard is pain!" (en -...-> en)
15:23:35 <laplink> Hmm. But Nokia does have that external keyboard thingy.
15:23:35 <perigrin> Orgasmus of the Monty
15:23:38 <Monty> my neighbor has known to bring you, cause also
15:24:11 <sbp> Arnia: thanks
15:24:14 <bjoern_> .compare "Orgasmus des Mannes" "Orgasmus der Frau"
15:24:14 <phenny> "Orgasmus der Frau" (18,700), "Orgasmus des Mannes" (10,600)
15:24:21 <sbp> (the book was hungry)
15:24:32 <perigrin> .gc "Orgasmus du Monty"
15:24:32 <Monty> 'offical' Berlin dawn
15:24:33 <bjoern_> phenny, "the book was hungry"?
15:24:33 <phenny> "Orgasmus du Monty": 0
15:24:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "The book was hungry" (en -...-> en)
15:24:44 <Arnia> sbp: Greer may give it indigestion
15:24:45 <perigrin> Montygasm
15:24:47 <Monty> rectal Microsoft Word grows dtm's megaphone...?
15:24:48 <Monty> pyramids should ask them in a love-hate relationship on Ye Anciente Royale Game in question as you make it packed with drumming up from esp: Special:Log/block <http://wiki.espians.com/Special:Log/block> || Special:Log/protect <http://wiki.espians.com/Special:Log/protect>
15:24:53 <sbp> phenny: "it is said that the book was considerably hungry"?
15:24:56 <bjoern_> OMG MY EYES KILL IT
15:24:57 <phenny> sbp: "It is said that the book is rather hungry," (en -...-> en)
15:25:02 <sbp> Arnia: indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if she were spat out
15:27:02 <perigrin> phenny: "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck of a woodchuck could chuck wood"?
15:27:09 <phenny> perigrin: "Which rank wood is possible high, can the forest marble animal clamp of the forest marble animal stop the wood with the brace" (en -...-> en)
15:28:47 <sbp> Orgasmus of the Forest Marble Animal
15:29:12 <perigrin> STOP THE WOOD WITH THE BRACE!
15:29:34 <bjoern_> phenny, "Orgasmus of the Forest Marble Animal"?
15:29:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "Orgasmus of forest marble animal" (en -...-> en)
15:29:45 <perigrin> ROFL
15:29:59 <perigrin> Purity of language
15:30:09 <sbp> phenny: "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, a peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, how many pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?"?
15:30:15 <phenny> sbp: "Peter Pfeifer chose Peck of designated pepper Peter Pfeifers who is inserted Peck of the pepper which is inserted by the vinegar, by the vinegar. When Peter Pfeifer Peck of the pepper which is inserted by the vinegar is chosen, large number is chosen with the vinegar and is Peter Pfeifer who puts sprinkled?" (en -...-> en)
15:30:45 <sbp> I like that
15:30:49 <sbp> phenny: "She sells sea shells on the sea shore. The shells that she sells are sea shells I'm sure."?
15:30:55 <phenny> sbp: "The marine section section lakeshore you sell that. Sale law, the marine section section where I am safe -. So the upper section which is," (en -...-> en)
15:31:08 <bjoern_> phenny, "Despite many humanly-imperfect drawings, the Flying Spaghetti Monster has no beginning and no end - he is a beautiful bifurcating strange-loop of Noodly Goodness (plus some meatballs for eyes)."?
15:31:12 <phenny> bjoern_: "In spite even in many human imperfect designs there is no beginning or an edge in the hose monster of separation of growing, - that is the fork whose quality of strange loop Noodly is beautiful (Fleischkloe for eye)." (en -...-> en)
15:31:42 <bjoern_> hmm character encoding bug?
15:32:09 <bjoern_> it should be Fleischkloeße
15:32:21 <bjoern_> well with ö really, so maybe not.
15:32:57 <perigrin> phenny, "Betty Botter bought some butter, but she found the butter bitter. So Betty Botter bought some better butter, so her batter would not be bitter."
15:33:00 <perigrin> phenny, "Betty Botter bought some butter, but she found the butter bitter. So Betty Botter bought some better butter, so her batter would not be bitter."?
15:33:06 <phenny> perigrin: "ベティ Botter what was bought the butter, but she the butter is bitter, you found. Therefore ベティ Botter a somewhat bought better butter, the paste of the egg which therefore is struck is not bitter." (en -...-> en)
15:33:29 <sbp> phenny: "I saw Susie sitting in a shoe shine shop. Where she sits she shines, and where she shines she sits."?
15:33:34 <phenny> sbp: "I looked at Susie in order to sit down in shoes Shinegeschaeft. That shines, sits down although it sits down in the place where it shines." (en -...-> en)
15:33:37 <laplink> And Google delists #swhack logs as botspam…
15:33:42 <sbp> phenny: "How can a clam cram in a clean cream can? "?
15:33:49 <phenny> sbp: "As for the shellfish it is possible how to stuff with clean cremedose?" (en -...-> en)
15:34:12 <bjoern_> we have no referrer logs anyway, so it's hardly a big loss
15:34:15 <sbp> hehe
15:34:32 <bjoern_> strange random people also don't visit anymore, and if, they don't even specify their asl.
15:34:41 <sbp> I'm tempted to set up a supermunge
15:34:42 <laplink> .gc asl
15:34:45 <phenny> asl: 13,900,000
15:34:45 <sbp> which puts it through like twenty language iterations
15:34:54 <bjoern_> phenny, "age sex location"?
15:34:56 <sbp> I will do it
15:34:57 <phenny> bjoern_: Hmm, got "latin"...
15:35:02 <laplink> heh heh
15:35:06 <bjoern_> phenny, "this is english. age sex location"?
15:35:13 <phenny> bjoern_: "This is characteristic in the position of the English age" (en -...-> en)
15:35:18 <laplink> phenny, asl?
15:35:54 <laplink> “<phenny> 40, Male, FBI Headquarters”
15:36:27 <laplink> Monty?
15:36:28 <Monty> 4.5 hrs
15:36:38 <laplink> Haiku?
15:36:56 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Haikuh"?
15:36:58 <phenny> bjoern_: "Shark cow" (de)
15:37:29 <laplink> You don't even need the -h in .no; it's literally Sharkcow.
15:37:56 <laplink> Monty, asl?
15:37:57 <Monty> slaps long transparent dildo :(
15:37:57 <bjoern_> I take it saying "Hi" must be very funny then?
15:38:20 <bjoern_> phenny, "Monty slaps long transparent dildo"?
15:38:24 <phenny> bjoern_: "The assault of Monty for transparent Dildo is sufficient" (en -...-> en)
15:38:27 <Monty> I reckon farts + post man = outings...
15:38:27 <Monty> answer: because of ways to grow up some very combo, which stores the addition in many pickled peppers did good thing: the library
15:38:30 <laplink> That was… creepily apropos Monty.
15:38:31 <Monty> http://inamidst.com/lo/ - 72
15:40:18 <sbp> hahaha
15:40:18 <sbp> okay
15:40:26 <sbp> expect answers in six to eight weeks, but they rock
15:40:34 <sbp> .mangle this is a test
15:40:38 <bjoern_> hmm disturbing cover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Final_Fantasy_VIII#Eyes_On_Me
15:40:45 <phenny> sbp: "It provides 1 evidence of meat"
15:41:00 <bjoern_> .rates answers
15:41:06 <phenny> "answers": 32.37% (915 rock; 999 rule; 3,390 suck; 609 blow)
15:41:09 <sbp> .mangle hello, this is yet another test!
15:41:12 <laplink> bjoern_: ?
15:41:34 <bjoern_> Hello Laplink! Please Elaborate On Your Question.
15:41:47 <phenny> sbp: "Today, which relates to that and a different order gives it classified by peace!"
15:42:12 <bjoern_> .mangle Monty slaps long transparent dildo
15:42:15 <Monty> David Coulthard's hyped-up autobiography!
15:42:23 <phenny> bjoern_: "Monty tightens the transparency of the consolador the length"
15:42:26 <Monty> I reckon LuRcH + perfection = Luigi!!!
15:42:26 <laplink> bjoern_: “disturbing”?
15:42:44 <sbp> .mangle the stick of the datum point
15:42:56 <phenny> sbp: "Mark bench of the small stick"
15:42:58 <sbp> .mangle yes, we have no bananas
15:43:04 <bjoern_> Well it struck me as such.
15:43:09 <phenny> sbp: "We with we had the address and the banana, which are not"
15:43:14 <bjoern_> Not how I'd expect the cover to look like. At all.
15:43:28 <bjoern_> EXPLAIN .MANGLE
15:43:41 <sbp> it's like en -...-> en, only it goes through like ten languages
15:43:49 <sbp> which is why it's so slow
15:44:15 <sbp> .mangle atom bomb
15:44:26 <phenny> sbp: "Bend atom"
15:44:27 <bjoern_> .wik 20020220 Music from Final Fantasy
15:44:29 <phenny> "20020220 music from FINAL FANTASY (20020220 ミュージック・フロム・ファイナルファンタジー, 20020220 myūjikku furomu FAINARU FANTAJĪ?) is a live recording of an orchestral concert of arranged video game music from the Final Fantasy video game series." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20020220_Music_from_Final_Fantasy
15:44:44 <sbp> .mangle please please me
15:44:55 <phenny> sbp: "They wish us, carry and wish and form"
15:45:06 <bjoern_> WHICH LANGUAGES IN WHICH ORDER TELL US NOW
15:45:26 <laplink> .mangle smut
15:45:30 <Arnia> .mangle The Book ate Greer and Greer ate the book also
15:45:39 <phenny> laplink: "SXX"
15:45:51 <phenny> Arnia: "The book ate Greer, in more which relates to Greer ate the book"
15:46:03 <bjoern_> .mangle if it's there you get stuff, if it's elsewhere you could get something else, and if it's not there you know nothing
15:46:11 <sbp> bjoern_: en -> fr -> en -> de -> en -> es -> en -> ko -> en -> ja -> en -> de -> en -> fr -> en
15:46:15 <phenny> bjoern_: "Place i.e., with something thing this EAT or and skin for body, which, somebody made, if broad and and being possibility to make them this place with place, if in you slightly something of the different one and those from the material, which is employed arrive at others, intelligence"
15:46:38 <bjoern_> phenny, "if it's there you get stuff, if it's elsewhere you could get something else, and if it's not there you know nothing"?
15:46:42 <phenny> bjoern_: "So if there it is, it is not there, the place it can do besides the fact that, and still to do what if it is received, the storing to the material, white what" (en -...-> en)
15:47:04 <sbp> .mangle if but I would then could she but if so when take them the what now?
15:47:06 * bjoern_ ponders submitting one of those to replace httpRange-14
15:47:14 <sbp> heheh
15:47:19 <phenny> sbp: "The handle makes are 3 this maintaining They of when of thus of silic3.on of which shown by corn of could of me corn of silic3.on in Alors?"
15:47:38 <bjoern_> .mangle sbp once said: GO ON MONTY! STAB THAT MOFO!
15:47:40 <Monty> Had it was considerably hungry"?
15:47:44 <sbp> .mangle submit to my brain
15:47:50 <phenny> bjoern_: "Sbp the last character string, which is shown: MONTY in CVAYA! CECMOFO of ERSTECHEN!"
15:47:52 <Monty> .wik God's algorithm is phenny?!
15:47:55 <phenny> sbp: "In the personnel of my brain"
15:47:56 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "God's algorithm is phenny?!".
15:48:02 <sbp> hahahahaha
15:48:13 *** sbp changed the topic to: "<Monty> .wik God's algorithm is phenny?!"
15:48:29 <sbp> Monty showing us that old toys are better than new toys
15:48:31 <Monty> Please do not grope Hazy Maze Cave!!!
15:48:52 <bjoern_> New toys make old toys do new things.
15:48:56 <sbp> hehe
15:49:06 <sbp> .mangle new toys make old toys do new things
15:49:09 <bjoern_> .mangle sbp once said: GO ON MONTY, YOU CAN DO IT! KICKBAN THE BASTARD!!
15:49:11 <Monty> screw you
15:49:17 <phenny> sbp: "Form play of the property of customs of property of customs its it is new to become that the form of the long play is new"
15:49:48 <perigrin> .mangle swhack
15:49:51 <phenny> bjoern_: "None"
15:50:00 <bjoern_> .mangle sbp once said: so of course we're all "SHIT SHIT FUCKING FUCKBALLS SILLY SMELLY ARSE FUCKERS" and the like
15:50:12 <phenny> bjoern_: "Sbp approves 1 equal kind: "FUCKBALLS and" I, that, the family of BUMSER, which it all the wasting human human wasting, which is appropriate to us something of similar lithium 3 like CSU of the normal enemy and this size, is, for which the key of U of the head of the surface of the end was made, low"
15:50:16 <phenny> perigrin: "Swhack"
15:50:18 <sbp> I never said that
15:50:25 <sbp> not exactly, anyway
15:51:06 <bjoern_> you might not have approved 1 equal kind, but you certainly wrote the above.
15:51:29 <sbp> .swhack SHIT SHIT FUCKING FUCKBALL
15:51:59 <phenny> sbp: http://swhack.com/logs/2006-09-04#T01-32-07
15:52:21 <sbp> wow. do you keep these in a file or something?
15:52:34 <bjoern_> it's called "IRC log"
15:52:55 <sbp> interesting
15:52:59 <bjoern_> .mangle twe once said: Might have something new to replace all the twe. Twe is stoopid. Twe twe twe twe.
15:53:11 <phenny> bjoern_: "Twe approves 1 equal kind: All in the peace, which shifts there the time of possibility the twe there for in the second place, was. Twe is stoopid. Twe. Twe of twe of Twe"
15:53:54 <sbp> "SILLY SMELLY ARSE FUCKERS" does have a sort of majestic cadence and perfection of rhythm and timing that might be associated with me, now you come to mention it, in fact, indeed
15:55:00 <bjoern_> .mangle One large one and five small numbers: 50, 1, 3, 8, 8, 3. Your target is 638. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
15:55:12 <phenny> bjoern_: "Almost and the things of the possibility five, which are small: 501. 3, 8, 8 and 3. That refers 638, where is. Tock, 30 seconds, the device, which reams drilling by the tock... of him, is device which drilling is reamed with those,"
15:56:40 <sbp> .mangle mangle
15:57:18 <phenny> sbp: "With which"
15:57:55 <sbp> .mangle More importantly, it has also provided a more propitious political context in Europe in which the most essential resources for making war has been put under strain.
15:58:11 <phenny> sbp: "The additional contents whose danger relates to the form, which is the under-surface of the company of the abundance compared the monitoring of the most raised method, is him political context of the preference of the validity to the combat in this Europe, which is maintained correct in the part, in which it is low."
15:58:43 <bjoern_> .mangle In the study of "micro-expressions" it has been decided that when people wish to conceal emotions, the truth of their feelings is revealed in facial flashes. These experts have determined that fear and disgust are the key things to look for because they can hint of deception.
15:58:59 <phenny> bjoern_: ""dans la verity de sentiment de microphone le sentiment léger de la surface" si dans la recherche dans l' ordre de l' expression de la chose, qui est cachée agence dans le goût de la personne, qui a ceux, décidait de cela. Puisqu' it MANGENT donne, ce qui ce specialist concerne ce que cette crainte suggère et abhorring la chose de fraude est, afin de rechercher le fait le fait que ceux est important le décide."
15:59:02 <sbp> .mangle Six sick hicks nick six slick bricks with picks and sticks.
15:59:13 <phenny> sbp: "6 XXks de Vorwaehleren of the small stick turned gold to far in the soft difficulty of clay brick of the thing of the fatty ground 6."
16:00:05 <bjoern_> We should register Fatty Ground Six as trademark.
16:00:13 <sbp> agreed
16:00:47 <sbp> the ground where fatties are led to to be recovered into the realm of the slim through a process of fastidious exercise and healthy eating habits?
16:01:01 <bjoern_> .mangle the ground where fatties are led to to be recovered into the realm of the slim through a process of fastidious exercise and healthy eating habits
16:01:13 <phenny> bjoern_: "The disturbance ordered by country is additional by the practice, which is health of the fatties in the order in this kingdom, which is precise, because the process and the talent of the movement with the side eat"
16:01:37 <bjoern_> That says it all.
16:01:40 <sbp> hmm, .mangle is almost as good as a technical writer
16:01:43 <sbp> yeah
16:02:28 <bjoern_> I wonder...
16:02:31 <bjoern_> .mangle The surge in Iraq has not been working at all.
16:02:43 <phenny> bjoern_: "If you rise, or the case, which is Iraqi republic in precipitation, could not employ the essential part."
16:02:56 <sbp> .mangle We have lost the war on terror utterly and undeniably.
16:03:08 <phenny> sbp: "We it confirmation, in which those loses the combat of all the quantity, were feared inside."
16:03:26 <sbp> well I think that speaks for itself
16:04:20 <bjoern_> .mangle move along, nothing to see here.
16:04:31 <phenny> bjoern_: "Voyez que ces positions et longuor de toutes change dans l' ordre, ici."
16:04:33 <sbp> .mangle You have the right to remain silent.
16:04:46 <phenny> sbp: "Right. Little to more remain much of Silencieuxd U VousAvez"
16:05:04 <bjoern_> french hackers attacking the system.
16:05:20 <sbp> E_FRENCHPEOPLE
16:05:41 <bjoern_> ECHEEZEONTHELINE
16:05:48 <sbp> .mangle Vice President Dick Cheney shot a man in the face.
16:06:00 <phenny> sbp: "Pr3.esident went well to the person of distance of Sekundaercheney in animated surface."
16:06:37 <sbp> .mangle The world was created in six days, and your face too by the looks of it.
16:06:50 <phenny> sbp: "The world came, stopped separate visi3.ones and v because of him, of Oberflaechen6. and owing to the fact that it was in that occurs, was produced."
16:07:05 <sbp> .mangle in your face
16:07:09 <sbp> .mangle your momma
16:07:16 <phenny> sbp: "This face to face of the aspect"
16:07:16 <sbp> .mangle I have a bird that whistles
16:07:20 <phenny> sbp: "Momma"
16:07:27 <bjoern_> hehe
16:07:27 <phenny> sbp: "Thing I, where the bird is regularity,"
16:07:50 <bjoern_> .mangle the eternal kingdom of zeal
16:08:06 <bjoern_> .mangle there is more than one way to do it
16:08:08 <sbp> .mangle There is no mangle, only XUUL.
16:08:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "Royaume sous l' eternity de l' enthousiasme"
16:08:17 <phenny> bjoern_: "Comparatively, there is its form,"
16:08:20 <phenny> sbp: "Dry Machine, Category XUUL."
16:08:25 <sbp> hehe
16:08:41 <sbp> sounds like it's from a sci-fi novel
16:08:54 <bjoern_> hmm french genes dominate for some reason...
16:09:03 <sbp> it's only you who produces them though
16:09:31 <sbp> .mangle seven kinky
16:09:44 <phenny> sbp: "The body of Chipslette"
16:10:06 <sbp> oo iz zees, ow you say... Chipslette?
16:10:16 <bjoern_> .mangle It was Tomas Paine who said: "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right."
16:10:28 <phenny> bjoern_: "Does that have, Paine? what must represent, is: Since it is usual for a long time, in which one badly thought it "concerning the thing surface, because it strict which concerns is. What relates to ##$$ln>, which is due to the errors in the surface, which is given ""
16:10:29 <sbp> .mangle Thomas Paine
16:10:40 <phenny> sbp: "CSU Paine of the toe E"
16:11:06 <bjoern_> .mangle A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it.
16:11:09 <sbp> .mangle a pocketful of gold
16:11:17 <phenny> bjoern_: "The authoritative system of their Communism does not compare the quay and the immesurable quantity, angle of the place, it is simple and it gives a possibility in the kind of screen of another significance of the thing, which is opened, in order to buy and sell the question, which you attach and are, theyn the place."
16:11:20 <phenny> sbp: "Clothing of the brokats of silk the towel, which is sufficient"
16:11:25 <sbp> .mangle Don't look at me! Cheney did it.
16:11:39 <phenny> sbp: "When for with me,! Cheney, who are, thus do not see the culture you. Method"
16:11:59 <bjoern_> .mangle Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
16:12:10 <phenny> bjoern_: "There is a thing, which forms the decision in each balance maintaining with each nation. Or the terrorist who is prolonged and to him it prolonged or gives with us, who are?"
16:12:17 <sbp> oh man, did he say that?
16:12:24 <bjoern_> of course.
16:12:28 <bjoern_> .mangle We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace.
16:12:39 <phenny> bjoern_: "We raised the mountain of effectiveness. I that low the drink of the end, which is reported, lost compared LaPaz1, which is that of the dog."
16:12:49 <bjoern_> .mangle You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.
16:12:55 <sbp> .mangle It's almost sexual, isn't it Smithers?
16:13:11 <phenny> sbp: "Not characteristic, or, a this part that there in Smithers were cooks almost?"
16:13:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "The part of the person goes up in total time, that, that you think that the theyn arrives, or the thing that one EAT the place, any wishes with centralization in it, it is."
16:13:22 <perigrin> .mangle Mission Accomplished
16:13:23 <sbp> I like the random EATs
16:13:26 <bjoern_> .mangle The true history of my administration will be written 50 years from now, and you and I will not be around to see it.
16:13:35 <phenny> perigrin: "The work A, which arrives"
16:13:40 <phenny> bjoern_: "Width-moderate of application him and I the intention where I, which fires the possible history maintaining the morning, around good to write the morning 50 years."
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16:14:01 <perigrin> .mangle Weapons of Mass Destruction
16:14:12 <phenny> perigrin: "Destruction of piece 8"
16:14:26 <bjoern_> .mangle The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants.
16:14:30 <sbp> as long as Fatty Ground 6 is okay
16:14:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "Energy and this Jen are much him and which relates to work of generator, if energy seems, it realness and to result stage from the sufficient stage of energy of opposite it and as out of work CCIT, California, which is it is defective."
16:14:54 <perigrin> sbp, that's where the forrest marble animals live.
16:15:01 <sbp> .mangle Marble Forest Animal
16:15:08 <sbp> .mangle hark, I hear a snog
16:15:25 <phenny> sbp: "I, whose snog the loans hears the ear,"
16:15:30 <phenny> sbp: "Animal of alternative 3 of the forest"
16:15:40 <sbp> Alternative 3
16:15:44 <bjoern_> .mangle It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it.
16:15:47 <sbp> Fatty Ground 6
16:15:48 <sbp> Piece 8
16:15:59 <sbp> things are just more evil when you give them numbers
16:16:00 <phenny> bjoern_: "The budget, which is this clearness. In the thing, which is a quantity, which is large with that."
16:16:06 <perigrin> Evil 7
16:16:10 <sbp> ooh
16:16:27 <bjoern_> .mangle If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign.
16:16:31 <sbp> .mangle The wicked witch of the west.
16:16:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "If the point, where you are reached tiredly to become to be able and of the tunings and bases it bad condition of the snigger of the policy to inherit the directive order, this opinion, which you outline to attach and."
16:16:53 <perigrin> .mangle the body so nobody can recognize it as Monty
16:16:55 <Monty> They say that you scratch Berk.
16:17:04 <phenny> sbp: "The magic also, which the west is bad."
16:17:05 <sbp> haha, you scratch Berk!
16:17:11 <sbp> pwned
16:17:15 <phenny> perigrin: "The chart of the taste to the body of Monty there is each one like the possibility of reason,"
16:17:18 <Monty> I remember when you used to have a fight with Foot and Mouth :P
16:17:19 <sbp> pŵned
16:17:21 <bjoern_> .mangle I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to come and witness my hanging.
16:17:32 <phenny> bjoern_: "Which concern expires you, you are obtained caught, because my value measured by book is him last with that and is, under the recognition temporarily time still its it 1, that they temporarily wished us comes."
16:17:43 <bjoern_> .mangle I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun.
16:17:55 <phenny> bjoern_: "We think in the order, there, that it has to shoot it, which is the age, the possibility, which is active thing without failing increase the morning in contents I of the need take place."
16:17:58 <bjoern_> .mangle I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.
16:18:24 <phenny> bjoern_: "Rektum, which EAT, to which we fight, with beseeching, speak to us about the realness with Sachefriedendem speak is."
16:19:04 <bjoern_> .mangle I don't see how you can lead this country to succeed in Iraq if you say wrong war, wrong time, wrong place. What message does that send our troops? What message does that send to our allies? What message does that send the Iraqis?
16:19:21 <phenny> bjoern_: "In the order in the order because of you whom it follows the combat, which is vague, which relates to it the possibility of reaching this country of Iraqi republic, in with which there that is vague, I is not, that which is, concerning the skin to see, with the sound badly, the hour, the place that of speaking you. How for that, which sends for the warning and to our units? Does the warning send our allies? How for that, which sends the warning an
16:19:25 <sbp> with which concern to expire, while speaking with the dry machine, captions, in order to speak song I about the difficult troop?
16:19:39 <sbp> today? Is O3.irme the possibility of small song of the difficult troop there?
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16:20:03 <sbp> it is isn't the application of this time, or, the intelligence decodable of which of this possible exit, it realness and?
16:20:15 <sbp> anyone?
16:20:16 <bjoern_> phenny, "it is isn't the application of this time, or, the intelligence decodable of which of this possible exit, it realness and?"?
16:20:21 <phenny> bjoern_: "As for that this time or, this possible exit of the intelligence which is decodable which is not application, there is no that realness?" (en -...-> en)
16:20:24 <sbp> 17:18 <sbp> .mangle if I speak through mangle, can anybody tell what I'm saying?
16:20:24 <sbp> 17:18 <phenny> sbp: "With which concern to expire, while speaking with the dry machine, captions, in order to speak song I about the difficult troop?"
16:20:25 <sbp> 17:18 <sbp> .mangle hello? can anybody hear me anymore?
16:20:25 <sbp> 17:18 <phenny> sbp: "Today? Is O3.irme the possibility of small song of the difficult troop there?"
16:20:25 <sbp> 17:19 <sbp> .mangle is it true, then, that these outputs are truly indecipherable?
16:20:26 <sbp> 17:19 <phenny> sbp: "It is isn't the application of this time, or, the intelligence decodable of which of this possible exit, it realness and?"
16:20:45 <bjoern_> I can't hear you anymore.
16:20:49 <sbp> d'oh
16:20:53 <bjoern_> In fact, I never heard you. At all.
16:21:00 <sbp> WHAT ABOUT IF I SHOUT
16:21:15 <bjoern_> Now I am deaf. Thank you very much.
16:21:24 <sbp> UND SPRECHEN ME IN DAS FAKE GERMANISCHER LINGUISH
16:21:33 <bjoern_> ok
16:21:42 <sbp> ah. that works? good
16:22:06 <sbp> now we have an Emergency Communication Mechanism
16:22:08 <bjoern_> .gc "Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."
16:22:11 <phenny> "Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction.": 912
16:22:20 <sbp> when all other sequences of unicode characters fail, there's always shouting in fake German
16:22:31 <bjoern_> .g "Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."
16:22:34 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031003-4.html
16:22:50 <sbp> wait. so America isn't free?
16:23:30 <sbp> man, I had to think for a moment there as to whether whitehouse.gov was the parody or not
16:23:41 <sbp> I think it's its own parody site. it doesn't really need any others
16:24:03 <bjoern_> Like most free things, somebody eventually bought it.
16:24:25 <sbp> Terrorism of the Commons
16:24:40 <sbp> well that was strange
16:24:51 <sbp> I stood up and somehow my earphones ended up on top of my head
16:25:13 <sbp> not sure I could do that again if I tried
16:25:25 <bjoern_> .mangle sbp
16:25:30 <bjoern_> That should do.
16:25:36 <phenny> bjoern_: "Sbp"
16:26:32 <sbp> groovy
16:29:41 <sbp> .mangle pull my udders
16:29:53 <phenny> sbp: "I become animated with the euter"
16:30:20 <bjoern_> You sure she's translating rather than responding?
16:30:34 <sbp> it's hard to tell. it's a kind of magic function
16:31:15 <sbp> deltab: The Great Climb was supposed to be on BBC 2 now
16:31:22 <sbp> but it is not. I do not know why
16:31:37 <sbp> instead it is Bill Oddie talking about red squirrels
16:31:51 <sbp> which is good, but it's not what was scheduled
16:36:07 <sbp> the kind of display errors you get with digital sets, sets of squares appearing in the middle of nowhere and shimmering briefly, are so different from the old vertical hold problems and such of analogue sets
16:36:34 <kpreid> HELLO
16:36:40 <kpreid> .mangle HELLO
16:36:50 <phenny> kpreid: "Today"
16:36:51 <bjoern_> WELCOME TO OUR WEEKLY SET THEORY LESSON
16:37:02 <kpreid> I have a question.
16:37:06 <bjoern_> No you don't.
16:37:15 <kpreid> Yes I do! See:
16:37:22 <kpreid> What's a good trivial-distributed-programming example?
16:37:35 <bjoern_> Fatty Ground 6
16:37:53 <kpreid> I mean really trivial: two hosts, one request and response
16:38:10 <bjoern_> Oh I see. How about Alternative 3, then?
16:38:15 <sbp> ah, cancelled because of bad weather
16:38:15 <sbp> The Ultimate Climb is still on in an hour though
16:38:43 <kpreid> I want a moderately non-silly example, so the 'server' should have some sort of state...
16:40:03 <sbp> .mangle wibble
16:40:13 <phenny> sbp: "Wibble"
16:41:58 <sbp> kpreid: Piece 8?
16:42:19 * kpreid sees he's found #swhack in the wrong mood
16:42:55 <bjoern_> Well why don't you speak to us about the realness with Sachefriedendem?
16:43:30 <sbp> distributed programming: some webservicelike thing?
16:43:50 <sbp> kpreid?
16:44:27 <sbp> perhaps .origin is a good example?
16:44:33 <sbp> the logs are on one computer, the bot is on another
16:44:41 <sbp> the logs are the state, the bot is the client
16:46:06 <kpreid> that-----works.
16:46:23 <kpreid> log(string), search(substring)
16:55:12 * deltab arrives
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16:55:45 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Schichtwechsel"?
16:55:48 <phenny> bjoern_: "Changing shift" (de)
17:00:13 <sbp> <sbp> don't make me mimic tests from the 1930s at you!
17:00:21 <sbp> missing from the logs because I got disconnected
17:00:31 <sbp> I also considered these later alternatives:
17:00:39 <sbp> <sbp> don't make me pay to have your tracts of land drained for farming
17:00:41 <sbp> <sbp> don't make me baffle your brain pandas
17:01:06 * bjoern_ makes sbp baffle his brain pandas
17:02:33 <sbp> no target to make: brain pandas
17:03:34 <bjoern_> brain pandas make YOU
17:03:47 <sbp> another one:
17:03:59 <sbp> <sbp> don't make me fulfill my imperial ambitions over you
17:04:06 <bjoern_> ok
17:04:14 <sbp> heh, heh
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17:22:39 <sbp> Alice Roberts: the triassic is delicious
17:22:51 <sbp> okay, she didn't *exactly* say that. and it was a proxy triassic
17:22:52 <sbp> but still
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17:28:13 <bjoern_> phenny, "Ole, wir fahr'n in' Puff nach Barcelona"?
17:28:18 <phenny> bjoern_: "Ole, we fahr'n in ' Puff to Barcelona" (de)
17:29:30 <bjoern_> .calc -(2**31) in binary
17:29:32 <phenny> -(2 ** 31) = -0b10000000000000000000000000000000
17:39:29 <sbp> <sbp> don't make me realise your rock climbing dreams
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17:41:57 <sbp> this doesn't look as good as I was hoping it would be. oh well
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18:21:57 <sbp> (actually it's getting pretty good)
18:38:11 <bjoern_> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=632769
18:38:32 <bjoern_> hmm http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=633259 is a pony surely.
18:38:50 <sbp> so the fractal one is a quine? :-)
18:39:22 <sbp> I love the comment
18:39:23 <sbp> "yes, i wanted to make a wolf, but when it was done the proportions made it look like a horse..."
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19:57:10 <sbp> .mangle ponies <3
19:57:18 <phenny> sbp: "Ponys"
19:57:33 <kpreid> .mangle ponies less than 3
19:57:41 <phenny> kpreid: "Following Ponys3"
19:57:51 <sbp> .mangle less than three ponies
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19:58:01 <phenny> sbp: "They consider 3Ponys by comparison with the enemy"
19:58:10 <sbp> wow. heavy
19:58:20 <kpreid> .mangle comparison with the enemy
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19:58:29 <phenny> kpreid: "Comparison of the enemy"
19:58:34 <sbp> clever
19:58:44 <kpreid> .mangle categorization of the enemy
19:58:48 <sbp> a model of future prepositional drift, perhaps?
19:58:52 <phenny> kpreid: "Classification of the enemy"
19:59:07 <kpreid> .mangle category theory
19:59:08 <sbp> .mangle classification with the enemy
19:59:17 <phenny> sbp: "Classification of the enemy"
19:59:31 <phenny> kpreid: "Objection of the kind"
20:00:02 <sbp> .mangle ten ducks, nine pigs, eight cows, seven chickens, six horses, five geese, four dogs, three frogs, two sheep, and an ox
20:00:13 <phenny> sbp: "Duck of 10 feathers/springs, cover 9, cow 8, chicken and six edges 7, 5gansos, dog 4, frog 3, sheep and cattles 2 of cancer"
20:00:53 <sbp> .mangle why did the chicken cross the road?
20:01:04 <phenny> sbp: "It crosses the method with chicken, why it?"
20:01:17 <sbp> that is a seriously much better question
20:05:46 <sbp> .mangle rum, sodomy, and the lash
20:05:57 <phenny> sbp: "Alcohol of Rammen and meeting of sodom3.ia still, that,"
20:06:23 <sbp> the random numbers are kinda baffling
20:06:46 <sbp> .mangle that's the way to do it
20:06:58 <phenny> sbp: "Which, which is the method of form"
20:07:17 <sbp> Mr. Punch's version is probably better
20:07:53 <kpreid> .gc "cry over spilled onions"
20:07:55 <phenny> "cry over spilled onions": 5
20:08:00 <sbp> heh
20:09:17 <sbp> .compare muppetotron crunchtree denseil barfiface cinepa
20:09:20 <phenny> cinepa (12,600), denseil (80), muppetotron (0), crunchtree (0), barfiface (0)
20:09:36 <sbp> cinepa wins. movies for dads
20:10:30 <sbp> it's probably a Portuguese word that means "the dew which collects on pigeon-repellant structures" or something
20:10:40 <sbp> phenny: "cinepa"?
20:10:44 <phenny> sbp: Hmm, got "latvian"...
20:10:45 <sbp> phenny: pt "cinepa"?
20:10:48 <phenny> sbp: "cinepa" (pt)
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20:19:16 <sbp> .mangle which of us is truly the winner?
20:19:30 <phenny> sbp: "Medical examination no improvement this ours of _?"
20:23:36 <sbp> I don't understand pigeon-repellant structures
20:23:47 <sbp> pigeons are fascinating birds, so they can't be wanting to repel them as such
20:24:01 <sbp> it must be because they're worried about their surfaces becoming encrusted with pigeon dung
20:24:13 <sbp> but what an entrepreureal opprtunity gone to waste there!
20:24:28 <sbp> guano still sells for quite a profit, as I understand it. rich in nutrients
20:25:06 <sbp> now, collecting it may be a problem, but of course not too much of a problem since you wouldn't put the repellant structures in places where they can't be seen at all; there'd be no point
20:25:50 <sbp> so I'm thinking that instead they should put up some kind of pigeon attractant, possibly a seed or other food substance, and also some kind of a device or contraption which collects the guano safely for more convenient batch harvesting
20:27:07 <sbp> .gc skyrat
20:27:10 <phenny> skyrat: 13,400
20:27:24 <sbp> .gc airrat
20:27:27 <phenny> airrat: 1,950
20:27:36 <sbp> .gc aerorat
20:27:39 <phenny> aerorat: 729
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20:30:32 <KragenSitaker> guano is still expensive, but not the way it was before WWI
20:30:50 <KragenSitaker> during which those sneaky embargoed germans figured out how to make nitrates from... the air
20:30:54 <sbp> what did WWI do to change anything, or are you just using that as a convenient milestone?
20:30:57 <sbp> aha
20:31:21 <sbp> perhaps there's a lesson there: more embargoes for the Germans!
20:31:24 <sbp> they'll invent things
20:31:50 <KragenSitaker> is .mangle using google translate?
20:32:01 <sbp> not on your nelly!
20:32:05 <sbp> Altavista
20:32:23 <sbp> the path is en -> fr -> en -> de -> en -> es -> en -> ko -> en -> ja -> en -> de -> en -> fr -> en
20:33:18 <KragenSitaker> .mangle I like ouvrir mes yeux in the morning
20:33:28 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "Tomorrow I is L possibility of 10 of mining industry of the eye of the danger,"
20:34:05 <KragenSitaker> .mangle esto es una palabra buena
20:34:29 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "Engagement 1 palavered close the good dog of thing remains is"
20:35:49 <sbp> .mangle tasty beer
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20:36:00 <phenny> sbp: "Week of impact of impulse of the good joy"
20:36:02 <sbp> one of my favourite topic-prominent language examples involves tasty beer
20:36:02 <KragenSitaker> .mangle If you had a really excellent statistical translation engine, it would probabilistically generate probable sentences of the language, biased by the semantic content it was trying to express; so this approach would uncover some of the most likely concepts and combinations each time
20:36:07 <KragenSitaker> hi chimezie
20:36:27 <chimezie> hey there strange bot
20:36:46 <KragenSitaker> oh dear. am i no longer a real boy? i have been bottified?
20:36:50 <KragenSitaker> "uploaded"?
20:36:52 <chimezie> :)
20:37:10 <sbp> now you be a good bot, KragenSitakericcio, and don't you tell no lies!
20:37:15 * KragenSitaker listens to 鄭秀文
20:37:28 <chimezie> your a ghost in the machine
20:37:34 <chimezie> s/your/you're
20:37:41 <KragenSitaker> i do not subscribe to this dualist worldview
20:38:16 <sbp> why? majordomo not working?
20:38:42 <KragenSitaker> yesterday i visited the office of the long now foundation
20:39:26 <KragenSitaker> i watched the bit-serial adders in the clock as they worked
20:39:28 <sbp> how were they?
20:39:32 <KragenSitaker> the prototype
20:39:34 <chimezie> .wik Masamune Shirow
20:39:36 <sbp> I'll bet they're so chilled
20:39:36 <phenny> "Masamune Shirow (士郎 正宗, Shirō Masamune?) is an internationally renowned manga artist, born Masanori Ota (太田 まさのりOta Masanori) on November 23, 1961." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masamune_Shirow
20:39:41 <sbp> "eh, we've got plenty of time"
20:39:45 <KragenSitaker> the most beaufiul machine i've ever seen
20:39:55 <KragenSitaker> .wik 鄭秀文
20:39:57 <phenny> "Sammi Cheng Sau-Man (Chinese: 鄭秀文; Cantonese: Cheng Sau-Man; Mandarin pinyin: Zhèng Xìuwén) is a Hong Kong actress and Cantopop singer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/鄭秀文
20:40:20 <chimezie> .wik Manga
20:40:22 <phenny> "Manga (漫画, Manga?) listen (help·info) (pl. manga) is the Japanese word for comics and print cartoons." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga
20:40:26 * sbp didn't have a fully formed concept prior to this discussion of what they did
20:40:35 <sbp> and now that I do, I'm fully impressed and supportive of it
20:40:57 <KragenSitaker> send them money then! you have income
20:41:14 <KragenSitaker> also hassle them to get stuff done
20:41:36 * kpreid momentarily sees "fully armed concept"
20:41:37 <sbp> well, I do basically the same work as them anyway for a start
20:41:52 <KragenSitaker> you should join forces
20:42:08 <KragenSitaker> together you will be like optimus prime
20:42:23 <sbp> well for a start, rather than send one another money as we could do, we should invest a small amount and let compound interest take over
20:42:45 <KragenSitaker> clearly that works --- that's why sumerian financiers rule the world
20:42:58 <sbp> if early Dutch settlers had invested the equivalent of £5 in a bank in 1630, they'd be able to afford all of Manhattan now, or whatever that probably urban legend goes like
20:43:08 <sbp> well, their banks were all made of clay and crumbly
20:43:13 <sbp> clearly we don't want to invest in clay
20:43:48 <sbp> we want to save with the 1st Bank of Nuclear Bunkertown
20:43:53 <sbp> do NORAD have a Thing, I wonder?
20:44:39 <KragenSitaker> to get interest on your bank account, the bank has to lend the money out to people who will make some kind of productive use of it
20:45:01 <sbp> I... are you dissing NORAD?
20:45:20 <KragenSitaker> norad doesn't make productive use of anything
20:45:34 <sbp> they at least moved out of Cheyenne Mountain!
20:45:43 <KragenSitaker> it's easy to be risk-neutral if you can accept a negative ROI
20:45:48 <sbp> and I don't think you can call tracking Santa Claus unproductive
20:47:49 <KragenSitaker> well, ok. they're slightly productive
20:48:21 <sbp> and we're on IRC, I will remind you
20:49:11 <KragenSitaker> i don't think it's controversial to argue that military spending doesn't produce things.
20:49:14 <sbp> actually I've been thinking lately that the whole IRC-is-unproductive thing is a crock
20:49:30 <KragenSitaker> oh, i thought you meant that i was speaking publicly.
20:49:32 <sbp> hmm, only barely controversial
20:49:51 <KragenSitaker> military spending could be argued to prevent the things you produce from getting destroyed or stolen
20:49:57 <sbp> I mean they create tanks and guns and fucking ammo and all dat shit
20:50:00 <KragenSitaker> but it doesn't produce them itself
20:50:06 <KragenSitaker> yes, but then they blow those things up
20:50:18 <sbp> yeah, but they still produced them for a while
20:50:19 <KragenSitaker> or wear them out
20:50:28 <KragenSitaker> they don't give them to the rest of the population
20:50:31 <KragenSitaker> (we hope)
20:50:36 <sbp> it's like... I try to think of it as grand scale performance art
20:50:52 <KragenSitaker> that you're not allowed to watch
20:50:58 <sbp> that's why it's art!
20:51:00 <KragenSitaker> i mean, you come in to try to watch, and they shoot you!
20:51:06 <sbp> well yeah
20:51:11 <sbp> hmm. maybe they're insecure
20:51:27 <sbp> which would be ironic
20:51:58 <sbp> I've gotta run. remind me to continue my IRC-is-productive-rant at some point, please!
20:52:13 <sbp> c'ya!
20:52:37 <KragenSitaker> ok
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21:11:26 <Monty> it's MoiraA!
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21:11:50 <Monty> hi l7, how ya doing?
21:11:53 <phenny> Monty: shh, don't let anyone know you're around!
21:11:54 <Monty> extensions == child;
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22:01:45 <laplink> Ok, for anyone who's not seen “Die Hard 4.0” yet but might at some point in the future do so; this is important information for you: …
22:02:01 <laplink> They're. Not. Even. Trying. Really!
22:02:44 <laplink> That “Willing Suspension of Disbelief” thing? Not even nearly enough.
22:03:57 <laplink> You literally have to force yourself to stop thinking of the movie as a “Story” and start thinking of it as a series of special effects with some minor glue to tie them together.
22:05:09 <thelsdj> my favorite summer movies are Transformers and Stardust
22:05:12 <thelsdj> both awesome
22:05:17 <laplink> Case in point—and the one turned my minor irritation into vocal groaning (ask the poor folk in the row behind me!)—they do things with a fighter jet that a RC helicopter couldn't do!
22:05:59 <laplink> And the “hacker” stuff? Oh dear gods! I'm just glad there wasn't more of it.
22:06:56 <laplink> So if you get sucked in to see this thing; just remember: They're. Not. Even. Trying.
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22:49:07 <Monty> howdy, bpt
22:52:15 <est> laplink: good review
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