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00:56:03 <perigrin> They'll be blogging about the destruction of mankind.
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00:59:50 <bancus> The revolution will not be blogged.
00:59:50 <bancus> oh, wait, yes it will
01:03:24 <xororand> Happy talk like a pirate day!
01:04:50 <Arnia> Oooh Arrgh!
01:06:58 <bancus> shit, am I missing it again
01:07:04 <bancus> or are you on the far end of the world?
01:07:50 <kpreid> .gc "blog like a pirate day"
01:07:53 <phenny> "blog like a pirate day": 187
01:08:21 <Arnia> .gc "blog it like it's your mother"
01:08:23 <phenny> "blog it like it's your mother": 0
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01:44:59 <Arnia> The Take-Away Shows: http://www.blogotheque.net/
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03:13:37 <Mike_L> .gc "* it like it's your mother"
03:13:40 <phenny> "* it like it's your mother": 9
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04:29:27 <Mike_L> countdown
04:29:27 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 3, 7, 3, 6, 5. Your target is 957. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:29:58 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:29:59 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 51 milliseconds. I found all 8 solutions in about 207 milliseconds.
04:30:00 <Monty> ibot (75/3 + 7)*6*5 - 3
04:30:03 <Mike_L> .calc 75*(3+7) - 6*5*3
04:30:04 <phenny> (75 * (3 + 7)) - (6 * 5 * 3) = 660
04:30:13 <Mike_L> countdown
04:30:13 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 6, 6, 8, 10. Your target is 477. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:30:44 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:30:44 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 31 milliseconds. I found all 46 solutions in about 195 milliseconds.
04:30:46 <Monty> ibot (75 - 6)*7 - 6
04:30:58 <Mike_L> countdown
04:30:58 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 7, 10, 2, 4, 6. Your target is 591. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:31:28 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:31:29 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 63 milliseconds. I found all 58 solutions in about 197 milliseconds.
04:31:31 <Monty> ibot (50 + 2 + 6)*10 + 7 + 4
04:31:31 <Mike_L> calc (50+7+9)*10 + 4/2
04:31:32 <Monty> Mike_L: 662
04:31:51 <Mike_L> calc (50+9)*10 + 4/2
04:31:51 <Monty> Mike_L: 592
04:32:04 <Mike_L> calc (50+9)*10 + (6-4)/2
04:32:04 <Monty> Mike_L: 591
04:32:06 <Mike_L> countdown
04:32:06 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 6, 10, 5, 8. Your target is 255. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:32:20 <Mike_L> .calc 5*50 + 5
04:32:22 <phenny> (5 * 50) + 5 = 255
04:32:27 <Mike_L> too easy :/
04:32:36 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:32:38 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 3 milliseconds. I found all 430 solutions in about 206 milliseconds.
04:32:39 <Monty> ibot 5*6*8 + 10 + 5
04:32:47 <Mike_L> countdown
04:32:48 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 9, 9, 3, 6, 1. Your target is 335. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:33:09 <Mike_L> .calc (50+9)*6 -1
04:33:11 <phenny> ((50 + 9) * 6) - 1 = 353
04:33:15 <Mike_L> .calc (50+9)*6 +1
04:33:18 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:33:18 <phenny> ((50 + 9) * 6) + 1 = 355
04:33:18 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 12 milliseconds. I found all 58 solutions in about 218 milliseconds.
04:33:20 <Monty> ibot (50 + 9 - 3)*6 - 1
04:33:23 <Mike_L> darnit
04:33:38 <Mike_L> .calc (50+9-3)*6 -1
04:33:41 <phenny> ((50 + 9 - 3) * 6) - 1 = 335
04:33:45 <Mike_L> countdown
04:33:45 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 3, 8, 8, 9, 7. Your target is 303. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:34:16 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:34:16 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 9 milliseconds. I found all 82 solutions in about 186 milliseconds.
04:34:18 <Monty> ibot (50 - 8)*7 + 9
04:34:41 <Mike_L> countdown
04:34:41 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 4, 8, 3, 5, 8. Your target is 438. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:35:11 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:35:12 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 57 milliseconds. I found all 26 solutions in about 195 milliseconds.
04:35:14 <Monty> ibot ((25 + 3)*8 - 5)*8/4
04:35:15 <Mike_L> .calc 25*5*3 + 8*8
04:35:17 <phenny> (25 * 5 * 3) + (8 * 8) = 439
04:35:47 <Mike_L> countdown
04:35:48 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 2, 1, 10, 3, 10. Your target is 690. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
04:36:13 <Mike_L> .calc (75 - 2*3) * 10
04:36:16 <phenny> (75 - (2 * 3)) * 10 = 690
04:36:20 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
04:36:20 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 11 milliseconds. I found all 270 solutions in about 216 milliseconds.
04:36:21 <Monty> ibot (75 + 1 - 10 + 3)*10
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06:00:02 <perigrin> .title http://www.nme.com/news/sex-pistols/31171
06:00:04 <phenny> perigrin: Sex Pistols are back for one off gig! | News | NME.COM
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06:35:59 <perigrin> "it's the HAL 2000 of hotel rooms, with all sorts of strange technological innovations hidden away. The toilet seats that rise to greet you when you nervously open an unmarked door to see what's in there are the least of it." heh
06:36:17 <perigrin> from http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2007/09/in-japan.html
06:37:49 <sbp> alright, who's Graeme Green?
06:37:52 <phenny> sbp: 02:07Z <patbam> tell sbp thanks for that link, very interesting
06:37:55 <sbp> come on, stand up and admit it
06:38:12 <thelsdj> .g "Graeme Green"
06:38:13 <phenny> "Graeme Green": sorry, no results were found.
06:39:13 <sbp> thelsdj!
06:39:25 <thelsdj> you're here early
06:40:36 <sbp> CORRECT
06:40:44 <sbp> I went to bed early, is perhaps most basic reason
06:41:14 <thelsdj> i don't go to bed early often enough for that to actually cause me to be functional any earlier than normal
06:41:25 <thelsdj> if i go to bed too early i end up being up most of the night
06:41:55 <bjoern_> HELLOZ 'P!
06:43:38 <sbp> ZELLO!
06:43:52 <sbp> thelsdj: oddly enough that normally happens to me
06:44:04 <sbp> except when I'm working really hard and I just sorta go "woo, tired"
06:44:29 <sbp> in fact, as you see from my distribution graph, I used to sleep pretty much circadianly
06:44:36 <thelsdj> yea, i guess every once in a while i go to bed extra early and do manage to sleep all the way through, then _some_ of those times i'm up earlier than normal
06:44:36 <sbp> so going to sleep an hour later each day
06:44:57 <thelsdj> yea i did that for a year or so back in like '99
06:45:10 <thelsdj> after dropping out of school and before starting to work
06:45:14 <sbp> hehe
06:45:25 <thelsdj> though i pushed it harder
06:45:31 <thelsdj> maybe 27 hour cycle
06:45:39 <sbp> well I found it was an average time
06:45:49 <sbp> coz if you stayed up till morning the sunlight would boost you way on
06:46:06 <thelsdj> also that was partly due to just sleeping a lot
06:46:15 <sbp> hehe
06:47:10 <bjoern_> The sun is out there to kill you. Just looking at it hurts already.
06:47:43 <bjoern_> .weather EDFM
06:47:47 <phenny> Scattered, 8℃, 1025mb, Light air 2km/h (1kt) (↑) - EDFM 8:20, 0620Z
06:47:49 <sbp> just wait till it expands
06:47:59 <sbp> .weather EGLL
06:48:02 <phenny> Scattered, 11℃, 1021mb, Light Rain, Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - EGLL, 7:20, 0620Z
06:48:08 <thelsdj> its going to cool before it expands
06:48:10 <bjoern_> U HAZ CHANGED FORMATTING
06:48:12 <sbp> it's quite nice and mild here at the moment
06:48:21 <sbp> yeah, I did say yesterday!
06:48:28 <thelsdj> and we will be all fr0z3n
06:48:44 <sbp> "if anyone knows of any just impediment as to why this format change should not go ahead..."
06:48:51 <bjoern_> Where is global warming when ya needz it.
06:49:24 <sbp> we'll just frighten loads of cows after feeding them beans when it happens
06:50:14 <sbp> "Here is my little interaction with an IRC Bot called "Phenny" (possibly mother of the Agent Web or Web of Agents or Web 4.0)" - Kingsley Idehen covering phenny
06:50:17 <thelsdj> .wik Dario Minieri
06:50:20 <phenny> "Category: European Poker Tour" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Poker_Tour_season_3_results
06:51:18 <sbp> .gc "Honk if you're Horny"
06:51:23 <phenny> "Honk if you're Horny": 981
06:53:15 <sbp> ugh, OOo 2.3 is out
06:53:18 <sbp> I hate OOo
06:53:24 <sbp> NATIVE OS X VERSION PLZ
06:53:33 <sbp> same with Gimp, same with Inkscape
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06:53:43 <sbp> or someone needs to make OS X's X11 less pug fugly
06:54:13 <sbp> aha! first services overtake farming, and now this:
06:54:14 <sbp> .title http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/09/19/036203.shtml
06:54:16 <bjoern_> u can haz osx for linuxz
06:54:18 <phenny> sbp: Slashdot | Cybercrime Now Worth $105 Billion, Bypasses Drug Trade
06:54:33 <sbp> but then I'd still be using X11, which is sorta besides the point
06:54:47 <bjoern_> linux for osx?
06:54:52 <sbp> because, basically, I hate X11. X11 should be punched in the penis, the son of a bitch
06:55:05 <sbp> well that's what X11 on OS X is pretty much right now!
06:55:50 <sbp> .title http://slashdot.org/articles/07/09/18/2313232.shtml
06:55:53 <phenny> sbp: Slashdot | The Smiley Face Turns 25 :-)
06:56:04 <bjoern_> Don't you need a Y to for a penis?
06:56:08 <thelsdj> .cp SMILEY
06:56:11 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for 'SMILEY'.
06:56:14 <sbp> some good /. titles today
06:56:22 <sbp> bjoern_: X11 has a hidden Y
06:56:24 <bjoern_> "The Y chromosome is the sex-determining chromosome in humans and most other mammals. In mammals, it contains the gene SRY, which triggers testis development, thus determining sex." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome
06:56:24 <sbp> .title http://slashdot.org/articles/07/09/18/225250.shtml
06:56:27 <bjoern_> .wik SRY
06:56:28 <phenny> sbp: Slashdot | False Ad Clicks Cost Google 1 Billion Dollars A Year
06:56:30 <phenny> "SRY (Sex-determining Region Y) is a sex-determining gene on the Y chromosome in humans and other primates." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRY
06:56:41 <bjoern_> That explains a lot.
06:57:12 <sbp> "BusinessWeek reports that a teardown analysis by iSuppli finds that it costs Apple only $58.85 to build the 4-gig iPod nano, and $82.85 for the 8GB version."
06:57:40 <sbp> name of the day that I don't like very much: Marybeth
06:58:24 <sbp> ! "SCO Group CEO Darl McBride is now claiming that competition from Linux was behind the company's filing of Chapter 11 bankruptcy."
06:59:11 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/09/18/1625224.shtml - hmm!
06:59:14 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
07:00:59 <thelsdj> xkcd is great today
07:01:09 <thelsdj> left-handed toons, also
07:05:16 <sbp> http://www.bash.org/?806893 is great (but long)
07:07:41 <thelsdj> oh my hahah
07:08:41 <perigrin> I hate it when that happens.
07:09:27 <bjoern_> [[[
07:09:28 <bjoern_> <Ryou> 360's are great but their hardware quality is pretty lol
07:09:29 <bjoern_> <Kuraineko> it's called 360 because of the trip it takes
07:09:29 <bjoern_> <Kuraineko> from microsoft, to you, back to microsoft, to you again
07:09:29 <bjoern_> ]]]
07:09:44 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus also http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7001897.stm
07:09:46 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
07:11:52 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus also http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22439344-912,00.html - and, well, probably a million others
07:11:56 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
07:12:29 <sbp> .title http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2512456.html
07:12:33 <phenny> sbp: Ananova - Death defying school run
07:12:38 <sbp> and that concludes the day's news
07:13:38 <bjoern_> [[[
07:13:41 <bjoern_> RetroKid27: Asians know how to haggle
07:13:42 <bjoern_> RetroKid27: it's in their blood
07:13:42 <bjoern_> Cool4freeReturns: yeah, we do
07:13:42 <bjoern_> Cool4freeReturns: our slanty eyes give us the ability to see the real prices
07:13:43 <bjoern_> ]]]
07:15:41 <sbp> schlanteeaaahh
07:19:15 <bjoern_> "god i swear you guys make 4chan look like fine literature sometimes"
07:21:07 <bjoern_> [[[
07:21:08 <bjoern_> Slimtoad20: US Airways flight 404 is flying through the Bermuda Triangle today.
07:21:08 <bjoern_> Slimtoad20: Yeah, that one doesn't stand a chance.
07:21:11 <bjoern_> ]]]
07:21:36 <bjoern_> So, what was I doing? hmm...
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07:48:36 <bjoern_> Arrr, ahoy darobin!
07:49:00 *** bjoern_ changed the topic to: "It's that day again."
07:49:16 <perigrin> don't you mean "It be that day again matey."
07:49:19 <darobin> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR!!!!!!!!!!!
07:49:20 <perigrin> Yarr.
07:49:28 <perigrin> Yarr ... and such
07:50:57 <bjoern_> six years of Commencement of U.S. combat activities in Afghanistan.
07:51:40 <bjoern_> sixteen years Oetzi
07:52:33 <bjoern_> 50 years U.S. underground nuclear bomb tests!
07:53:05 * xover threatens to kickban anyone propogating That Day on here…
07:53:05 <bjoern_> 55 years of The U.S. bars Charlie Chaplin from reentering the country after a trip to England.
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07:55:48 <darobin> xoverrrrrr!!!!
07:56:06 <bjoern_> Tomorrow we can celebrate 6 years WAR ON TERROR ZOMG
07:56:15 <darobin> w000t!
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07:56:28 <xover> Excessive r's are grounds for immediate dechanneling!
07:56:55 <bjoern_> We might also kickban you instead.
07:57:16 <darobin> yaarr!!!!
07:57:28 <darobin> send you xover the keelhaul!!!!
07:57:29 * xover sighs…
07:57:41 <bjoern_> You asked for it!
07:58:16 <xover> So how about them Knicks, eh?
07:58:20 *** darobin changed the topic to: "It be that day again."
07:58:38 <bjoern_> U Knicks?
07:58:49 <darobin> knickerrrs? such as those be found on them buxom wenches?
07:58:53 *** xover changed the topic to: "It be that day again. <- Dear Gods Make It Stop!"
08:00:26 <sbp> did somebody mention buxom wenches?
08:00:34 <perigrin> aye an' prayin to yer heathen dieties won't be helpin you now .. arr
08:00:54 <darobin> aarrrrrrrr!!!!
08:01:16 <sbp> why are people talking funny all of a sudden?
08:01:29 * sbp bashes them all with this strange plank he found lying about
08:01:55 <perigrin> don't be messing with Max there matey
08:02:01 <perigrin> we need him for walkin
08:02:12 <sbp> YOU NAMED THE PLANK MAX?!
08:02:16 <sbp> hahahahaha
08:02:58 <perigrin> pirate physics puns only in #swhack
08:03:02 <sbp> hehe
08:04:00 <darobin> rofl
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08:05:24 * perigrin is getting pressganged into petting by a certain *insistent* bunny
08:05:45 <bjoern_> is that good or bad?
08:05:49 <perigrin> every time I stop to type ... he nips me
08:06:04 <sbp> distract it with a carrot
08:06:25 <perigrin> he just ate though I should try to coax him back into his cage
08:06:32 <perigrin> he's getting unruly
08:06:50 <perigrin> yar
08:06:55 <perigrin> such as
08:07:03 <sbp> if you had a bunny, what would you call it?
08:07:20 <sbp> I think "Luzz" would make a good bunny name
08:07:33 <sbp> or "Pennifred"
08:07:47 * xover would go for “Ragu” or, quite possibly, just “Lunch”…
08:07:50 <sbp> ooh, or "Slippa"
08:08:34 <darobin> Sugar!!!
08:08:42 <darobin> or Fluffy
08:08:42 <perigrin> ours came with "Monkey" ... which our daughter thought was stupid and decided to re-name him "Sange"
08:08:42 <sbp> do do do do do do
08:08:43 <sbp> oh honey honey
08:08:46 <sbp> do do do do do do
08:08:51 <sbp> you are my candygirl!
08:08:53 <darobin> (singe)
08:08:56 <sbp> and you got me lovin' yoooooooo
08:08:59 <perigrin> singe?
08:08:59 <sbp> honey!
08:09:01 <sbp> do do do do do do
08:09:03 <darobin> yeah
08:09:07 <darobin> that means monkey :)
08:09:08 <sbp> oh sugar sugar
08:09:09 <sbp> do do do do do do
08:09:21 <darobin> you know
08:09:21 * perigrin can't spell in *english* let alone cheese-eating-surrender-singe
08:09:33 <darobin> hehe
08:09:50 <sbp> namez vous ma lapin, sil vous plait
08:10:07 <sbp> I fake a good French
08:10:18 <sbp> (is lapin wolf, or is it rabbit?)
08:10:22 <sbp> (oh well, doesn't really matter)
08:10:55 <perigrin> rabbit ... loupe is wolf.
08:11:02 <perigrin> ()
08:11:08 <danja> from what I can gather in this book I'm reading
08:11:11 <sbp> no way. what a stupid name for a wolf
08:11:22 <sbp> see, crazy scary things should all be named in Germanic
08:11:35 <sbp> lovely sweet daisyish things should be named in Romance
08:11:50 <perigrin> I like that breakdown yeah ...
08:11:58 <danja> there's a good chance "bunny" first appeared in smutty medieval verse, rhyming with coney/cunny
08:12:05 <perigrin> .ety bunny
08:12:07 <phenny> "1690, dim. of Scottish dialectal bun, pet name for 'rabbit,' previously (1587) for 'squirrel,' and also a term of endearment for a young attractive woman or child (1606)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=bunny
08:12:11 <perigrin> I looked this up once ...
08:12:15 <xover> Überschwartzkillteethrippischdogze!
08:12:18 <sbp> intriguing
08:12:30 <sbp> xover: hahaha!
08:13:01 <sbp> okay, that is totally the word of the day
08:13:05 * sbp writes it up
08:13:10 <sbp> .pc Ü
08:13:13 <phenny> 00DC: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS (Ü)
08:15:37 <danja> the ref. here at 1517 predates the one in the OED
08:16:28 <danja> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Middle-Ages-Malcolm-Jones/dp/0750938749
08:16:56 <danja> the writing's a bit staid/academic, but it's still entertaining
08:18:05 <danja> "an � please Carol..."
08:19:19 <sbp> .pc �
08:19:22 <phenny> FFFD: REPLACEMENT CHARACTER (�)
08:19:59 <sbp> ooh, Wily Beguiled
08:20:28 <darobin> tee hee, wolf is loup, loupe is magnifier :)
08:20:40 <darobin> and I don't know what namez is :)
08:20:44 <sbp> "sometimes attributed to Peele"
08:21:13 <sbp> it's name (verb), fakefrenchified
08:21:23 <sbp> with analogy to parlez
08:21:54 <darobin> oooh
08:22:04 * darobin wishes he knew how French pirates spoke
08:22:22 <darobin> that way I could set up commeunpirate.fr
08:23:28 <sbp> "His nobbes and his conny"?
08:25:17 <sbp> "Another illustration of this equation can be found in what seems at first a bizarre drawing by the Swiss artist Urs Graf (dated 1529), which depicts a prostitute taking a mouse for a walk on a lead, thereby constituting a sort of walking advertisement of her services."
08:25:54 <darobin> would you like to pet my mouse honey?
08:26:14 <sbp> "His artistic output, arising from the tradition of Albrecht Dürer and Hans Baldung, includes a wide range of subjects, depicting social, erotic, military, political and criminal images (eg. Two Prostitutes Beating a Monk), as well as strong religious feelings which emerge in some works."
08:26:16 <sbp> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_Graf
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08:26:28 <sbp> .gc "Two Prostitutes Beating a Monk"
08:26:31 <phenny> "Two Prostitutes Beating a Monk": 4
08:26:57 <bjoern_> .gc "Two Monks beating a Prostitute"
08:26:59 <phenny> "Two Monks beating a Prostitute": 0
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08:27:23 <perigrin> .gc "Two Monks and a Prostitute beating a Bar"
08:27:25 <phenny> "Two Monks and a Prostitute beating a Bar": 0
08:28:22 <sbp> .gc "Two Monks and a Prostitute beating a Yarrrrrr"
08:28:26 <phenny> "Two Monks and a Prostitute beating a Yarrrrrr": 0
08:28:30 <sbp> too many r's?
08:28:47 <bjoern_> .gc "Two Monks and a Postitute"
08:28:49 <phenny> "Two Monks and a Postitute": 0
08:29:04 <sbp> .gc plankitute
08:29:07 <phenny> plankitute: 0
08:30:31 <danja> .gc Two Prostitutes and a Monkey walk into a bar
08:30:35 <phenny> Two Prostitutes and a Monkey walk into a bar: 730,000
08:30:56 <danja> .gc "Two prostitutes and a monkey walk into a bar"
08:30:59 <phenny> "Two prostitutes and a monkey walk into a bar": 0
08:33:21 <darobin> what's a typical pirate city?
08:34:08 <darobin> nevermind
08:34:56 <sbp> hmm, there's http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/hd/km/ausstellungen/zeichenkunst/graf.jpg
08:35:19 <sbp> also I like http://i.iinfo.cz/urs/graf3-116784694628832.PNG
08:35:46 <danja> Aaaarddis Aaaarbaba
08:36:07 <sbp> .g Addis Ababa pirates
08:36:11 <phenny> sbp: http://www.parkathletics.com/msoccer/roster_mso.shtml
08:36:22 <sbp> hmm
08:36:28 <bjoern_> SOCCER SOCCER SOCCER.
08:36:40 <sbp> if you pronounce pirates as pi-ra-tes, à la pilates, it makes it funn
08:36:44 <sbp> DON'T YOU SOCCER ME
08:36:49 <sbp> ...ier
08:37:16 <sbp> .gc assonation
08:37:20 <phenny> assonation: 298
08:39:44 <sbp> found on the way to finding Graf images, by the way:
08:39:46 <sbp> http://users.lmi.net/sonyarap/makemeaman/pages/man.women.html
08:40:47 <sbp> wow, the whole site is like that
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08:43:39 <sbp> phew, it's an "art" thing
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08:44:21 <sbp> what a freaky bit of art
08:45:08 <sbp> http://users.lmi.net/sonyarap/arborerecta/index.html
08:46:35 <sbp> phenny: tell http://users.lmi.net/sonyarap/ - pretty much all of this is way up your alley. it's like Zap if it were done in earnest by a crazy person
08:46:39 <phenny> sbp: That nickname is too long.
08:46:45 <sbp> ...
08:46:51 <sbp> phenny: tell d5fbc6e5-4111-48 http://users.lmi.net/sonyarap/ - pretty much all of this is way up your alley. it's like Zap if it were done in earnest by a crazy person
08:46:54 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when d5fbc6e5-4111-48 is around.
08:50:03 <sbp> http://users.lmi.net/sonyarap/brutal/images/godvorbigcol.gif - "Neolithic figurine in birthing position"
08:51:17 <sbp> 'Mary Powers accused Judge James L. Stevens of sexual harassment saying he handed her an "over-ripe" penis-shaped zucchini and fired her without cause.'
08:54:33 <perigrin> most zuchini can be accurately described as phallic
08:57:16 <sbp> aha
08:57:16 <sbp> [[[
08:57:16 <sbp> In the medieval legend, Aristotle was the philosopher friend and tutor of Alexander the Great, and Phyllis, Alexander's favorite courtesan. Aristotle, in attempting to end the relationship, warned Alexander that women had often been the undoing of strong men. Phyllis, to gain revenge, aroused the passion of the philosopher and demanded, as proof of his love, that she be allowed to ride on his back as on a horse. The incident was witnessed by Alexander who learned
08:57:17 <sbp> thereby to distrust women, against whom even old philosophers were powerless. The story became an allegory of woman's domination of man. Phyllis has also been called Campaspe.
08:57:18 <sbp> ]]]
08:57:23 <sbp> -http://www.drawingsandprints.com/CurrentExhibition/Mainbody/main_body.cfm?ExhibitionID=1&Exhibition=10
08:57:55 <sbp> .wik Campaspe
08:57:58 <phenny> "Campaspe, (Or Pancaste)[1]| the mistress of Alexander the Great, was painted by Apelles, who had the reputation in Antiquity for being the greatest of painters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaspe
08:58:39 <sbp> 'seeing the beauty of the nude portrait, Alexander saw that the artist appreciated Campaspe (and loved her) more than he. And so Alexander kept the portrait but presented Campaspe to Apelles'
09:00:51 <sbp> (of course, the inability to degeneralise is the problem...)
09:01:18 <bjoern_> .gc degeneralise
09:01:22 <phenny> degeneralise : 7
09:07:41 <sbp> .gc Volksphilosophie
09:07:42 <phenny> Volksphilosophie: 394
09:07:50 <sbp> fromg
09:08:14 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Volksphilosophie"?
09:08:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "People philosophy" (de)
09:08:21 <sbp> ooh, new feature:
09:08:21 <sbp> http://translate.google.com/translate_dict?q=philosophy&hl=en&langpair=en%7Cfr
09:08:36 <sbp> bjoern_: I was trying to find the translation of "folk philosophy"
09:08:47 <sbp> I thought it came from German, in fact...
09:09:21 <bjoern_> .gc Leitkultur
09:09:29 <phenny> Leitkultur: 472,000
09:10:27 * sbp -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitkultur
09:10:52 <sbp> .swhack calque
09:11:03 <phenny> sbp: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-09-05#T13-37-44
09:11:46 <sbp> perhaps I'm getting mixed up with those things
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09:11:50 <Monty> welcome, Talliesin
09:11:56 <bjoern_> word warezing.
09:12:07 <sbp> hehe
09:12:23 <sbp> weltwarezerang
09:12:52 * sbp warezes Mars
09:13:36 <bjoern_> don't warez pluto. it's not even a planet!
09:13:43 <sbp> : : : ( ( (
09:14:14 <sbp> .gc pseudowarez
09:14:17 <phenny> pseudowarez: 9
09:14:27 <sbp> I can pseudowarez it
09:15:02 <sbp> "When you're lost in the bytes, in warez, and it's easter time too"
09:15:45 <sbp> "And your connection fails and AT&T don't pull you through"
09:16:06 <sbp> "Don't put up any cache when you're down on RIAA avenue"
09:16:24 <sbp> "They got some hungry lawyers there, and they're really gonna make a mess outta you"
09:16:49 <darobin> you really have to fear something if even old philosophers are powerless against it...
09:18:48 * sbp sends an email to William, who Went In yesterday
09:20:28 <darobin> "The mother and daughter were arrested Aug. 1, after they allegedly both agreed to have sex with an undercover officer for $30 -- at $15 each." # cheap
09:20:31 <darobin> http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14140253/detail.html
09:21:19 <perigrin> You'd think the mom would have at least billed it 20/10 or something
09:21:21 * sbp looks at the article... s/cheap/expensive/
09:21:35 <darobin> sbp: yeah, that's another way of seeing it
09:24:25 <bjoern_> Where can I sign up?
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09:24:54 <bjoern_> eeek!
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09:25:24 <sbp> bjoern_: http://www.wsbtv.com/emailnewsletters/index.html?treets=atl&tid=2659170132813&tml=atl_ent&tmi=atl_ent_1_11150309182007&ts=H
09:25:33 <bjoern_> I WILL NOT CLICK
09:25:39 <bjoern_> I still regret the last click.
09:25:44 <sbp> hehe
09:26:05 <sbp> that's why, when you said sign up, I thought ahead and...
09:27:31 * darobin rofl
09:28:03 <sbp> ways to obtain child emancipation in the USA: '(1) enlisting in the military [requires parent/guardian consent], (2) marrying [requires parent/guardian consent], (3) obtaining a court order from judge [does not require parent/guardian consent]'
09:28:06 * darobin does the dance of having caught bjoern_
09:28:43 <bjoern_> my last click was worse than what you posted...
09:30:12 <sbp> hmm, no heatmap of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age ?
09:31:39 <bjoern_> would look a bit boring
09:32:02 <sbp> well, you could jazz up the differences
09:32:17 <sbp> polka dots for 17, picture of a mink for 19
09:32:29 <darobin> interesting: "Brazil: 18 generally; 16 with parental consent; unlimited in case of pregnancy."
09:32:42 <sbp> heh
09:33:07 <darobin> California: no statutory minimum
09:33:16 <sbp> yeah, I noticed that
09:33:34 <darobin> Utah: 18 generally for first marriage, 16 with parental consent, 14 with court approval or previous marriage.
09:33:44 <sbp> ahahaha. missed that
09:34:00 <bjoern_> It's lists the Iraq under the asian countries.
09:34:01 <darobin> so you can marry at 14 without court approval if you've gotten married before :)
09:34:26 <sbp> eminently sensible
09:34:34 <sbp> such as
09:34:40 <darobin> ah, I didn't know they'd changed the French law
09:34:42 <perigrin> in utah it was an issue
09:34:49 <darobin> it used to be 15 with presidential consent
09:35:06 <bjoern_> Need map of minimum age for divorce...
09:35:11 <sbp> *presidential*? awesome
09:35:21 <sbp> so, like, basically, if the president wanted to marry a 15 year old...
09:35:24 <darobin> yeah, but it was abrogated to be 18 no exceptions
09:35:33 <darobin> technically, yes :)
09:35:44 <darobin> she'd have to agree though
09:35:56 <sbp> or else MADAME GUILLOTINE
09:36:28 <darobin> China: 22, now that's sensible
09:36:34 <sbp> 22 for males only
09:36:36 <darobin> well, I'd make it 35, but hey
09:36:45 <darobin> that's because girls are smarter
09:36:46 <sbp> I would make it 28.889571
09:37:11 <sbp> seriously, sbp for PM
09:37:12 <sbp> DO IT
09:37:16 * perigrin would still not be legally married in darobins world
09:37:47 <darobin> perigrin: well, I'd be allowed to make exceptions for the people I know to be smart :)
09:37:48 <bjoern_> Chinese men wanting to marry have to import a women anyway.
09:37:59 <perigrin> The right honorable gentleman from Swhacksford?
09:38:12 <darobin> exactly
09:38:23 <darobin> and hey, I'm not legally married either!
09:38:31 <sbp> I think anyone should be allowed to marry at any age
09:38:33 <sbp> logic:
09:38:46 <sbp> * If someone wishes to marry, they have lost their marbles.
09:38:54 <sbp> * Therefore, society should give up on them.
09:38:59 <sbp> * Therefore, let them marry.
09:39:13 <darobin> there is logic in your, err, logic
09:39:19 <perigrin> ironically we found the marbles the day after the wedding
09:39:28 <sbp> hehe
09:39:31 <darobin> "what have we DONE!!!!"
09:39:33 <bjoern_> Who is to say they actually want to marry?
09:39:34 <sbp> marbles as wedding gift... hmm
09:39:36 <perigrin> but by then it was too late
09:40:03 <darobin> you should marry again!
09:40:09 <darobin> and invite us this time
09:40:15 <sbp> I agree
09:40:19 <bjoern_> If divorces were cheaper, people would marry more.
09:40:24 <sbp> at the least, you can renew your vows
09:40:26 <perigrin> and have a honeymoon this time
09:40:27 <sbp> Homeresquely
09:40:45 <sbp> "in a jet powered, monkey navigated..."
09:41:12 <bjoern_> how many heads would the monkey have?
09:41:19 <sbp> it was not said
09:41:21 <perigrin> y'all would have enjoyed the last one :)
09:41:26 <perigrin> .wik White Trash
09:41:28 <phenny> "White trash is a derogatory term with a classist component targeted at white people with low social status, poor prospects (i.e., downward mobility), or lack of education." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Trash
09:41:32 <sbp> lots of computers?
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09:41:54 <bjoern_> .gc "wedding orgy"
09:41:57 <phenny> "wedding orgy": 20,200
09:42:00 <sbp> .gc "downward mobility"
09:42:03 <phenny> "downward mobility": 142,000
09:42:05 <perigrin> well seeing as my daugher was 2.5 ... we played to our strengths and went with "White Trash" as the theme
09:42:25 <sbp> you held it in a caravan rolling down a hill?
09:42:26 <perigrin> Southern Bar-B-Cue restaurant ... beer bottles for flower cups ...
09:42:35 <sbp> ...
09:42:39 <bjoern_> How about green trash and inviting all your fellow martians over?
09:42:45 <sbp> hehe
09:43:05 <sbp> I think it's silly to name them after their world
09:43:09 <perigrin> very "American rural"
09:43:19 <sbp> because you'd have to open the wedding speech with "Fellow Martians of the Mars"
09:43:27 <sbp> which is now a tautology
09:43:44 <sbp> .gc downwardly mobile martians
09:43:47 <phenny> downwardly mobile martians: 234
09:43:53 <darobin> wow, I would've loved a white trash wedding
09:44:01 <perigrin> .gc downwardly mobile martians -ignatz
09:44:04 <phenny> downwardly mobile martians -ignatz: 228
09:44:08 <sbp> hmm!
09:44:12 <darobin> not sure what the link with a 2.5 y/o daughter is, but I woulda loved it
09:44:14 <bjoern_> That might trigger trademark lawsuits with Mars, Inc.
09:44:15 <sbp> it got reverse ignatzed!
09:44:28 <perigrin> darobin, the idea being more of a "shotgun" theme
09:44:34 <sbp> .gc downwardly mobile martians ignatz
09:44:38 <phenny> downwardly mobile martians ignatz: 8
09:44:41 <darobin> you shot Katie?
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09:44:53 <perigrin> .wik Shotgun Wedding
09:44:56 <phenny> "A shotgun wedding is an expression referring to a type of wedding which is arranged not because of the desire of the participants, but to avoid embarrassment due to an unintentional pregnancy." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_wedding
09:45:11 <perigrin> wikipedia++
09:45:25 <sbp> but... but...
09:45:32 <darobin> ooooooooh
09:45:34 <darobin> okay, sorry
09:45:37 <sbp> you already had a 2.5 daughter-of-l'ans?
09:45:53 <perigrin> .wik daughter-of-l'ans
09:45:56 <darobin> it's so unusual for people here to get married before their first kid that notion had slipped my mind :)
09:45:56 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "daughter-of-l'ans".
09:46:09 <bjoern_> Try the klingon wikipedia.
09:46:11 <perigrin> darobin, Florida is part of the bible belt :)
09:46:18 <darobin> right, right :_
09:46:22 <darobin> err :)
09:46:23 <sbp> KzNgAArH'KxZwQiii
09:46:32 <perigrin> .kplah daugther-of-l'ans
09:46:40 <sbp> yarrrr, the smiley be 25-of-l'ans
09:47:10 <bjoern_> .gc wickedpedia
09:47:13 <phenny> wickedpedia: 55,400
09:47:20 <sbp> so we can now say that the smiley is ten times older than perigrin's daughter when perigrin had his shotgun white trash marriage. this is not something that we can say on any other day and have it be true
09:47:35 <sbp> so let us enjoy its truthdom
09:47:41 <perigrin> yay!
09:47:50 <perigrin> *and* we shall say it like Pirates!
09:47:55 <sbp> yarr!
09:47:57 <perigrin> Yarr! Such as.
09:48:11 <sbp> I be personally lieve
09:48:16 * Arnia boings
09:48:20 <sbp> Arniarrr!
09:48:35 <sbp> it be that day, matey
09:48:45 <Arnia> I know :)
09:48:52 <Arnia> Shiver me timbers
09:49:02 <sbp> And Swhackers burst out forth in sundry words
09:49:02 <bjoern_> NO YOU
09:49:14 <sbp> Conceived in madness, shatted on by birds
09:49:15 * perigrin feels his own timbers shivering and shuts off the Air Conditioner
09:49:24 <darobin> "In May 2002, Luke Helder, a midwestern pipe-bomber, tried to replicate a smiley face in his pattern of pipe bombs. His first 16 bombs formed circles, the first in Nebraska and the second on the border between Illinois and Iowa. Those bombs completed the eyes. Two other bombs in Texas and Colorado were apparently the beginnings of the smile. However, he was captured before being able to...
09:49:24 <darobin> ...complete it."
09:49:37 <sbp> ...
09:49:59 <perigrin> Yeah baby yeah yeah ...
09:50:07 <bjoern_> That's how the frowny came to be.
09:50:15 <Arnia> Fairly elaborate for a first attempt
09:50:28 <bjoern_> Should have seen the second attempt.
09:51:02 <perigrin> should have gone for an emoticon
09:51:06 <sbp> .gc gitmonkey
09:51:09 <phenny> gitmonkey: 17
09:51:15 <sbp> .gc sasscamel
09:51:18 <phenny> sasscamel: 0
09:51:22 <sbp> .gc twatwhale
09:51:23 <darobin> nah, he should've tried a kaoani
09:51:25 <phenny> twatwhale: 0
09:51:54 <perigrin> kaonai?
09:52:06 <sbp> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1343/949417300_0e4fc0f7e0.jpg
09:52:17 <perigrin> oh my
09:52:25 <darobin> http://www.anikaos.com/kaoani_msn_icons_emoticons.html, such as
09:52:51 <darobin> pimpin!!!
09:52:54 <darobin> I want that lucky cat
09:52:56 <sbp> http://www.anikaos.com/mint_drop.html
10:00:13 <sbp> .gc sexiful
10:00:15 <phenny> sexiful: 10,200
10:03:06 <sbp> .gc buzznut
10:03:09 <phenny> buzznut: 976
10:08:09 <Arnia> Not sure how much I like this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=SKVSnLEzdfg
10:08:12 <darobin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Pizza_Cats ...
10:08:46 *** sbp changed the topic to: "キャッ党 忍伝 てやんでえ"
10:08:52 <Arnia> I can see it growing on me... but the video ends the song abruptly (not that this means much, Gravenhurst often have long instrumental sections at the end which flow into the next song)
10:10:16 * sbp doesn't like it
10:10:20 <sbp> but then I was put off by their Farewell, Farewell cover
10:13:12 * Arnia shrugs
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10:13:44 <Arnia> I've liked Gravenhurst for a long while now... I like the music in the song, it is just how abruptly it cuts
10:18:58 <darobin> .title http://lolthulhu.com/
10:19:02 <phenny> darobin: LOLTHULHU
10:19:22 <darobin> CTHULHU FHTAGN CHEEZBURGER!!!!!
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10:23:08 <darobin> schepers!!!!!!!!!
10:23:22 <darobin> our very best representative from the south carolina
10:23:24 <darobin> such as
10:23:36 <Arnia> Oh, sbp: http://www.blogotheque.net/takeawayshows/
10:23:38 <schepers> north carolina, actually
10:23:40 <phenny> schepers: 14 Sep 07:31Z <stelt> tell schepers http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Membership query failed
10:23:43 <sbp> reporting from キャッ党 忍伝 てやんでえ-land
10:23:51 <darobin> yeah I know, but I need maps such as!
10:23:52 <schepers> darobin!
10:24:05 <sbp> Arnia: what's this? what one should I click?
10:24:15 <schepers> my giraffe is from SC
10:24:32 <darobin> she the one that was on tellie a couple weeks ago such as (yaaarrrrrrr)
10:24:50 <darobin> ?
10:24:52 <Arnia> sbp: Just look through the list... it is an interesting idea. Take a musician and drop them on the streets and have them perform a song in a single take
10:25:02 <Arnia> sbp: Beirut is quite good
10:27:40 <sbp> drumming on the bins: awesome
10:31:30 <sbp> and here's the album track... http://grabb.it/tracks/612f703e98df-nantes-beirut
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10:31:44 <sbp> I think I prefer the street version
10:32:42 <Arnia> .wik Beirut (Music)
10:32:43 <phenny> "Beirut, the largest city in Lebanon has long been known, especially in a period immediately following World War 2, for its European-style art and intellectualism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Lebanon
10:32:47 <Arnia> hm
10:32:54 <Arnia> .wik Beirut (musician)
10:32:55 <phenny> "Beirut is the name of 21-year-old Santa Fe native Zach Condon's band." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beirut_(band)
10:38:09 <sbp> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUy5cliQHDY
10:38:10 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Beirut - 'Nantes' - RFH, London
10:38:38 <Arnia> I think I quite like them
10:38:55 <sbp> judging from their site, they're a bit samey though
10:39:11 <sbp> lyrics are boooOooring too
10:39:23 <sbp> they seem a bit more interesting musically than the Decemberists
10:39:28 <sbp> but way less lyrically interesting
10:39:28 <Arnia> *shrugs* you don't have to listen to them exclusively
10:39:42 <sbp> well
10:39:52 <sbp> I'm thinking: Colin Meloy writes for Beirut
10:39:54 <sbp> and they hire a new singer
10:39:57 <sbp> and become famous
10:40:19 <Arnia> It all goes into my big rotation
10:40:54 <sbp> I try to listen to a lot of input, but then have a small listening rotation which only the best of the input goes into
10:41:52 <sbp> I rather like finding out the contexts behind the best songs
10:42:04 <sbp> so I spend a lot of time being quite completionist on the best folk
10:42:12 <sbp> and finding out what's behind the music...
10:42:55 <Arnia> I like having everything of a particular artist, but of lots of artists. Then I play it all randomly and see what ideas spring forth
10:43:14 <sbp> juxtapositions between songs, like?
10:43:50 <sbp> one of my faves for transitions is at the end of Tell Me, Momma, Dylan plays a bit of harmonica and goes "it used to go like that, but now it goes like this". and then of course whichever song pops up after that can sometimes cause hilarity
10:43:56 <perigrin> sbp, "behind the music" like when A.L. Loyd trashed a hotel room during a drunken orgy?
10:44:08 <sbp> .wik A.L. Loyd
10:44:12 <phenny> "The name Lloyd is a variation of the Welsh word llwyd or clwyd, which means 'grey' or 'brown'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_(surname)
10:44:24 <perigrin> http://www.emusic.com/album/A-L-Lloyd-English-Drinking-Songs-MP3-Download/10979118.html
10:44:46 <perigrin> more generally http://www.emusic.com/artist/A-L-Lloyd-MP3-Download/11729171.html
10:44:55 <sbp> hmm
10:45:11 <sbp> .wik Albert Lancaster Lloyd
10:45:15 <phenny> "Albert Lancaster Lloyd (29 February 1908- 29 September 1982), usually known as A. L. Lloyd or Bert Lloyd, was an English folk singer and collector of folk songs, and as such was a key figure in the folk music revival of the 1950s and 1960s." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.L._Lloyd
10:45:17 <Arnia> sbp: just... juxtapositions between styles... I like stuffing my head with lots of random details from different places and see what interesting connections come out
10:45:17 <sbp> I'd never heard of him
10:46:07 <perigrin> He came up during my Cisco Houston / Woodie Guthrie stage a few months back.
10:46:29 <sbp> .wik Cisco Houston
10:46:32 <phenny> "Gilbert Vandine 'Cisco' Houston (August 18, 1918 – April 29, 1961) was an American folk singer who is closely associated with Woody Guthrie due to their extensive history of recording together." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Houston
10:47:33 <Arnia> sbp: what do you think of Yann Tiersen?
10:47:41 <sbp> .wik Yann Tiersen
10:47:44 <phenny> "Yann Tiersen (born June 23, 1970) is a French Avant-Garde/New Age Musician and composer known for his versatility, minimalist compositions, and virtuosity as a multi-instrumentalist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yann_Tiersen
10:47:53 <sbp> to iTunes!
10:48:06 <perigrin> .wik mono-instriumentalist
10:48:10 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "mono-instriumentalist".
10:48:21 <perigrin> .gc mono-instriumentalist
10:48:23 <phenny> mono-instriumentalist: 0
10:49:17 <sbp> I like so far
10:49:43 <sbp> nice quality of expression
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10:52:15 <sbp> yeah, from a various number of samples I quite enjoy him
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11:15:23 <sbp> wow. something I ordered from Amazon the other day has dropped £20 in price
11:15:32 <bjoern_> pwnd
11:15:35 <sbp> but people have been complaining and receiving refunds
11:15:40 <sbp> so I've just sent in my own complaint...
11:16:03 <sbp> (tip: it wasn't an iPhone)
11:16:05 <bjoern_> Seems to be a new trial-and-error approach in Pricing 2.0.
11:16:12 <sbp> yeah
11:16:27 <sbp> on the high street some places are selling it for £10 more than even what I bought it for
11:18:25 <sbp> oh, and my kevlar thread came this morning
11:18:28 <sbp> extremely quick!
11:20:21 <sbp> the package included a couple of flyers (hehe) for the British Fly Fair International
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11:49:32 <sbp> that is one awesomely repaired strap
11:49:39 <sbp> KEVLAR REINFORCED GUITAR STRAP
11:50:05 <bjoern_> .gc "kevlar spider"
11:50:08 <phenny> "kevlar spider": 112
11:52:48 <bjoern_> short same-length words for begin/end, start/stop, etc?
11:52:53 <bjoern_> .thesaurus start
11:52:55 <bjoern_> .thesaurus end
11:52:56 <phenny> start synonyms: alpha*, birth, bow, commencement, countdown, dawn, dawning, day one*, derivation, embarkation, exit, first step, flying start*, foundation, inauguration, inception, initiation, jump off, jumping-off
11:52:57 <bjoern_> .thesaurus stop
11:52:57 <phenny> end synonyms: borderline, bound, boundary, butt end, confine, cusp, deadline, edge, extent, extreme, extremity, foot, head, heel, limitation, neb, nib, point, pole, prong, spire, stub, stump, tail, tail end, term,
11:53:00 <phenny> start synonyms: place, kickoff*, leaving, onset, opening, origin, outset, running start, setting out, source, spring, square one*, start off, takeoff
11:53:00 <phenny> stop synonyms: bar, barricade, blank wall*, block, blockade, break, break off, brick wall*, cease, cessation, check, close, closing, conclusion, control, cutoff, desistance, discontinuation, ending, fence, finish,
11:53:01 <phenny> end synonyms: terminal, termination, terminus, tip, top, ultimate
11:53:03 <phenny> stop synonyms: freeze*, grinding halt*, halt, hindrance, impediment, layoff, letup, lull, pause, plug, roadblock*, screeching halt*, standstill, stay, stoppage, termination, wall
11:53:48 <sbp> do! / end
11:54:01 <bjoern_> think "notification event", like, "I'll do this now ... I am done doing it"
11:54:13 <sbp> doin / done
11:54:26 <bjoern_> gona / done ...
11:54:31 <sbp> hehe
11:55:17 <bjoern_> Don't absolutely have to be short, but have to be same-length.
11:55:24 <sbp> trying / failed
11:55:49 <bjoern_> It's a method and you would call it whether or not the step inbetween failed
11:55:58 <bjoern_> so failed = bad choice.
11:56:07 <sbp> .doit()
11:56:11 <sbp> .stop()
11:56:43 <bjoern_> stop would suggest the method makes it stop,
11:56:54 <bjoern_> but it's just meant to signal it's stopped now.
11:57:02 <sbp> <bjoern_> short same-length words for begin/end, start/stop, etc?
11:57:24 <kpreid> begun/ended
11:57:37 <bjoern_> that's closer
11:57:38 <sbp> nice
11:57:48 <sbp> doe / did
11:57:53 <sbp> or doo
11:57:55 <bjoern_> hehe
11:58:17 <sbp> .whee(), .mrph()
11:58:44 <sbp> .iwannagoontheslide(), .againagainagain()
11:59:02 <bjoern_> beeep / boing
11:59:10 <sbp> ooh
11:59:32 <sbp> started / stopped?
12:00:25 <sbp> ostep / cstep
12:00:41 <bjoern_> begin / nigeb
12:00:48 <sbp> sex / cig
12:00:55 <bjoern_> hehe
12:01:12 <sbp> kickoff / whistle
12:02:09 <bjoern_> yeah i was thinking maybe setup / ???
12:02:26 <sbp> burnn
12:02:37 <sbp> break?
12:02:54 <sbp> cease!
12:02:58 <sbp> setup / cease
12:03:12 <sbp> or start / cease
12:03:18 <bjoern_> beginz / finish
12:03:19 <bjoern_> hmm
12:03:48 <sbp> tao / tao
12:04:13 <bjoern_> expect data;
12:04:18 <bjoern_> put data:
12:04:20 <bjoern_> put data;
12:04:20 <bjoern_> put data;
12:04:26 <bjoern_> expect no more data.
12:04:35 <bjoern_> is the process.
12:04:50 <sbp> oh, so it's more like a stream flow?
12:04:57 <sbp> flow / clog
12:05:14 <sbp> wet / dry
12:05:32 <perigrin> .compare wet dry flow clog
12:05:33 <sbp> data / nowt
12:05:36 <phenny> flow (322,000,000), dry (204,000,000), wet (151,000,000), clog (7,900,000)
12:06:31 <bjoern_> .thesaurus beginning
12:06:34 <phenny> beginning synonyms: alpha, basis, birth, blastoff*, commencement, creation, dawn, dawning, day one*, genesis, inauguration, inception, induction, infancy, initiation, installation, introduction, jumping-off place,
12:06:38 <phenny> beginning synonyms: kickoff, onset, opener, opening, origin, origination, outset, preface, prelude, presentation, rise, root, rudiment, source, spring, square one*, starting point, takeoff, threshold, top
12:06:40 <sbp> ahhhhhhdatamonstor / phewdatamonstorisgone
12:06:49 <bjoern_> birth death
12:07:00 <sbp> blastoff crashland
12:07:26 <sbp> strange / charmed
12:07:31 <bjoern_> setup / yield
12:07:52 <sbp> setupz / gohome
12:08:08 <bjoern_> OMG { ... } WTF
12:08:11 <sbp> hehe
12:08:15 <kpreid> busy / done
12:08:20 <kpreid> into / exit
12:08:20 <sbp> ooh
12:08:56 <sbp> dawn / dusk
12:09:32 <bjoern_> I suggested rise / dawn last time...
12:09:32 <sbp> q / m (on qwerty)
12:09:44 <sbp> dawn / dusk is better
12:09:48 <sbp> because rise and dawn are the same thing
12:09:51 <bjoern_> .compare quertz querty
12:09:53 <phenny> querty (188,000), quertz (13,000)
12:09:59 <bjoern_> NO, U!
12:10:02 <sbp> .compare French sane
12:10:05 <phenny> French (675,000,000), sane (17,600,000)
12:10:09 <sbp> OMG
12:10:50 <bjoern_> I like ??? / done, but "busy" doesn't fit
12:11:21 * perigrin closes a bug after letting it sit in his bug-queue for only a year
12:11:34 <sbp> doit / done
12:11:46 <sbp> will you miss it?
12:12:31 <bjoern_> init / done...
12:12:33 <perigrin> probably ... but I fixed it.
12:12:35 <sbp> able / done?
12:12:58 <bjoern_> .thesaurus setup
12:13:01 <phenny> setup synonyms: bureaucracy, hierarchy, network, organization, setup, structure
12:13:02 <bjoern_> .thesaurus initialize
12:13:05 <phenny> initialize synonyms: boot up, compute, computerize, crunch numbers*, digitize, initialize, input, keyboard, key in, load, log in, log out, program, run
12:13:35 <sbp> voke / done
12:14:37 <bjoern_> So how about setup / yield?
12:14:39 <sbp> give / take
12:14:51 <sbp> I don't like yield
12:14:58 <sbp> it doesn't say "end" to me
12:15:01 <sbp> it says "be soft"
12:15:09 <bjoern_> .w yield
12:15:12 <phenny> yield n. 1: Production of a certain amount
12:15:13 <phenny> yield v. 1: Be the cause or source of
12:15:15 <phenny> yield v. 2: End resistance, as under pressure or force.
12:15:23 <bjoern_> END
12:15:33 <sbp> under pressure or force?
12:15:40 <sbp> I know it has that sense, but it's not the primary sense
12:15:42 <perigrin> give way
12:15:50 <bjoern_> Well the force of the factual...
12:15:55 <sbp> ...
12:16:12 <sbp> setup / done!
12:16:31 <perigrin> eat / shit
12:16:39 <perigrin> perhaps too biological that
12:16:45 <sbp> yeah
12:16:52 <sbp> no biological metaphors
12:17:04 <sbp> kid / nap
12:17:58 <perigrin> pi / rate
12:18:00 <bjoern_> prep / done?
12:18:30 <sbp> setup / ended?
12:18:46 <sbp> prep / done is pretty good
12:20:27 <perigrin> such / as
12:21:01 <sbp> maps / theiraq
12:21:19 <bjoern_> asia / iraq
12:21:37 <perigrin> theiraq
12:22:04 <sbp> cold / warm
12:22:28 <perigrin> luke / warm
12:22:34 <perigrin> .ety lukewarm
12:22:37 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "lukewarm". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=lukewarm
12:23:29 <bjoern_> Yoda / Solo?
12:24:13 <sbp> punch / penis-sonofabitch
12:26:10 <bjoern_> gocracking / crastinate
12:29:11 <sbp> hax / pwn
12:29:30 <bjoern_> wtf { ... } lol
12:30:05 <bjoern_> getsome / gotsome
12:30:59 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Pech"?
12:31:02 <phenny> bjoern_: "Pitch" (de)
12:31:09 <bjoern_> .w pitch
12:31:16 <phenny> pitch n. 1: The property of sound that varies with variation in the frequency of vibration
12:31:19 <phenny> pitch v. 1: Throw or toss with a light motion
12:31:20 <phenny> pitch v. 2: Move abruptly.
12:31:41 <bjoern_> .wik Pech
12:31:44 <phenny> "The Pech are an indigenous people in northeastern Honduras, whose population, as of early 2005, has been reduced to a few hundred." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pech
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12:32:42 <bjoern_> @translate english to german misfortune, bad luck, to be unlucky, tough luck
12:32:43 <supybot> bjoern_: Unglück, Unglück, unglückliches, haltbares Glück zu sein
12:32:54 <bjoern_> @action screws himself
12:32:56 * supybot screws himself
12:33:01 <bjoern_> thx !!
12:33:31 <perigrin> shi / trude
12:34:00 <sbp> < / >
12:34:55 <perigrin> `//
12:35:27 <bjoern_> ... \
12:35:28 <bjoern_> ...
12:35:28 <bjoern_> ...
12:35:30 <bjoern_> ... /
12:35:53 * perigrin waits for the other half
12:36:20 <sbp> 9ੰཐ༮ȉბ / ڼβฐছಮ
12:36:58 <bjoern_> Yes, that's it!
12:37:16 <sbp> whoo!
12:37:22 <sbp> only valid in perl6 of course
12:42:35 <perigrin> no I think you could write that in perl5
12:42:50 <perigrin> but it wouldn't be pretty
12:43:13 <perigrin> and I'm awfully sure you could do it in Ruby ... but it wouldn't scale.
12:44:17 <bjoern_> Half of the characters above are operators in Perl6.
12:44:32 <perigrin> the other half are twigils
12:45:13 <sbp> hehe
12:45:22 * sbp traits perigrin right in the given
12:45:45 <perigrin> ooch ... right in the Role.
12:46:07 <sbp> you should've done a grammar block
12:46:16 <bjoern_> sbp does his role well
12:46:24 <perigrin> I can't cut and run
12:46:30 <bjoern_> you could zip it though
12:46:44 <sbp> FLIPPEFLOPPE
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12:48:23 * kpreid peers at this spam…
12:48:30 <kpreid> "Subject: redluom"
12:49:04 <perigrin> sbp, that said ... there are several implementations of Roles for perl5 ... and given I think is in the forthcoming 5.10 ...
12:49:13 <perigrin> perl6 is slowly leaking backwards in time
12:49:28 <sbp> kpreid: an anagram of "moulder"
12:49:43 <sbp> oh. it's moulder backwards
12:49:45 <bjoern_> and tcejbuS
12:49:52 <sbp> which is funny, because I read it backwards
12:49:56 <kpreid> 'zactly. but WHY?
12:50:06 <sbp> and I was like "mooueldr? hmm. nothing there"
12:50:07 <bjoern_> So you spend more time reading it.
12:50:27 <bjoern_> sending sekret messages right into yer subconcious
12:50:35 <sbp> it's also an anagram of Do Lemur
12:50:38 <perigrin> redluom! redloum!
12:50:45 <sbp> DO LEMUR
12:50:50 <sbp> .gc shitrude
12:50:52 <phenny> shitrude: 4
12:50:57 <bjoern_> .gc yllucs
12:50:59 <phenny> yllucs: 319
12:51:00 <perigrin> Murdel! MURDEL!
12:51:14 <sbp> nibbox
12:51:35 <sbp> 01987236450192384576019283745602938746501298374561092837460192837465019287465019287465
12:51:45 <sbp> that's fun to type
12:51:47 <bjoern_> don't paste my mobile nr.
12:51:51 <sbp> hehe
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12:53:09 <sbp> NOOOO!
12:53:13 <sbp> NOT KPREID!
12:53:16 <sbp> NOT HIM!
12:53:27 <sbp> Monty: go after kpreid
12:53:28 <Monty> !
12:53:34 <sbp> bring him back, Monty!
12:53:37 <Monty> large category.
12:53:42 <sbp> DO IT
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12:53:55 <sbp> well done Monty
12:53:59 <Monty> I've got proof that you use puppies!
12:54:11 <sbp> you were only meant to bring kpreid back
12:54:34 <kpreid> Subject: Hey Darwin Check Out This Watch
12:54:51 <sbp> spammers think you're Darwin?
12:55:19 <perigrin> dude you're old
12:55:28 <sbp> thanks for evolution though
12:55:37 <perigrin> and the Operating System
12:55:47 <sbp> no. not the operating system
12:56:36 <bjoern_> but the darwin awards.
12:56:41 <sbp> yes
12:56:58 <sbp> Apple really should've taken a Linux and then just worked on the security
12:57:05 <sbp> I hate BSD
12:57:48 <bjoern_> phenny, "Jede erfahrene Hausfrau braucht Dampf"?
12:57:57 <phenny> bjoern_: "Each experienced housewife needs steam" (de)
12:58:22 <bjoern_> phenny, "Sind Sie Pokersuechtig?"?
12:58:27 <phenny> bjoern_: "Are they Pokersuechtig?" (de)
12:59:02 <bjoern_> phenny, "Policia inocenta motorista de onibus que arrastou menino"?
12:59:06 <phenny> bjoern_: "It polices acquits driver of onibus that boy dragged" (pt)
12:59:47 <bjoern_> phenny, "Atn Guadalajara Diplomado Cooperativas con los Expertos"?
12:59:54 <phenny> bjoern_: "ATN Graduate Guadalajara Cooperative with the Experts" (es)
13:01:08 <bjoern_> phenny, "Leuchten Sie in Ihren Computer wenn Sie etwas machen"?
13:01:12 <phenny> bjoern_: "Shine into your computer if you somewhat make" (de)
13:01:28 <bjoern_> "If you have an infinite distance, just replace is by a very large value such as 9."
13:03:15 <bjoern_> "An HTTP POST requires a Content-Type header to be set on the XMLHttpRequest object by using the following statement: req."
13:03:22 * bjoern_ wonders whether that's spam...
13:04:02 <sbp> Shine Into Your Computer
13:04:09 <sbp> like, a blue LED torch?
13:06:28 <bjoern_> phenny, "Mein Opa spielt oft Lotto, ich gehe lieber ins Casino"?
13:06:32 <phenny> bjoern_: "My Grandpa plays often Lotto, I rather goes into the Casino" (de)
13:06:38 <bjoern_> writes "Nico 68"
13:08:05 <sbp> ooh, reply from Amazon
13:08:40 <sbp> whoo! £20 refund
13:08:51 <sbp> Amazon++
13:20:17 <pierpa> phenny, "era una notte buia e tempestosa"
13:20:55 <pierpa> phenny, "era una notte buia e tempestosa"?
13:21:00 <phenny> pierpa: "stormy night was one buia and" (it)
13:21:12 <pierpa> hmmm
13:21:37 <pierpa> phenny, "kak dela"?
13:21:40 <phenny> pierpa: Hmm, got "basque"...
13:22:05 <pierpa> phenny, "kiaj lingvoj vi komprenas?"?
13:22:10 <phenny> pierpa: Hmm, got "esperanto"...
13:22:24 <pierpa> phenny, good guess!
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13:22:44 <sbp> heh. guess...
13:22:53 <sbp> arrrr, bilgerat off the starboard bow!
13:23:54 <sbp> .gc "unconstitutional smell"
13:23:57 <phenny> "unconstitutional smell": 1
13:24:02 <sbp> .g "unconstitutional smell"
13:24:06 <phenny> sbp: http://www.masonryletting.net/4058_carnegey/unresponsive.html
13:24:36 <pierpa> phenny, "biondi avea i capei d'oro a l'aura sparsi"?
13:24:41 <phenny> pierpa: "blond men avea the capei of gold to the scattered aura" (it)
13:25:02 <bjoern_> .mangle blond men avea the capei of gold to the scattered aura
13:25:15 <phenny> bjoern_: "_ is, the capei of the person D of clothing of the avea that silk A of brokats zerstreuen in the will, which is usable,"
13:25:23 <perigrin> .mangle "An HTTP POST requires a Content-Type header to be set on the XMLHttpRequest object by using the following statement: req."
13:25:37 <phenny> perigrin: "It required that the fact, that "the point is employed by HTTP follows for the kind of matter of contents in the article of report/ratio, XMLHttpRequest repair: Req. ""
13:25:55 <bjoern_> .gc "report/ratio"
13:25:57 <phenny> "report/ratio": 27,200
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13:26:59 <pierpa> phenny, "biondi aveva i capelli d'oro a l'aria sparsi"?
13:27:03 <phenny> pierpa: "blond men had hats of gold to the scattered air" (it)
13:27:25 <pierpa> :))
13:28:10 <pierpa> phenny, "aveva i capelli d'oro sparsi all'aria"?
13:28:15 <phenny> pierpa: "it had hats of gold scattered to the air" (it)
13:28:42 <pierpa> she confounds "capelli" with "cappelli" :(
13:28:55 <sbp> phenny: "ଙ௲௪ԻЧᇂôੴ ښ৯छ༡բ̦ຳɬڡ ƀ৶ཝऔٵҋभ"?
13:29:00 <phenny> sbp: "□□□□Ч □□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□" (zh)
13:29:04 <sbp> she does? oh dear!
13:29:14 <pierpa> hair with hats :)
13:29:18 <sbp> hehe
13:29:18 <bjoern_> Unacceptable.
13:29:52 <pierpa> phenny, "capello"?
13:29:56 <phenny> pierpa: "hat" (it)
13:29:56 <sbp> .pc ଙښ௲
13:29:59 <phenny> 0B19: ORIYA LETTER NGA (ଙ)
13:30:02 <phenny> 069A: ARABIC LETTER SEEN WITH DOT BELOW AND DOT ABOVE (ښ)
13:30:05 <phenny> 0BF2: TAMIL NUMBER ONE THOUSAND (௲)
13:30:06 <kpreid> phenny: "a capella"?
13:30:07 <pixel> anyone have any experience writing sieve scripts?
13:30:07 <pierpa> phenny, "cappello"?
13:30:10 <phenny> pixel: 15 Sep 19:14Z <sbp> tell pixel that :somethingOf properties in RDF are an anti-pattern, because then you end up with stupid shit like "is :somethingOf of" for the inverse. and yes, this problem is in RDF Schema amongst other places...
13:30:11 <phenny> kpreid: Hmm, got "catalan"...
13:30:13 <pierpa> "a cappella"
13:30:16 <phenny> pierpa: "hat" (it)
13:30:33 <pixel> sbp: I know :)
13:30:35 <sbp> phenny: "a cappella"?
13:30:38 <sbp> phenny: "a capo"?
13:30:40 <phenny> sbp: "to nail head" (it)
13:30:44 <phenny> sbp: "capo" (pt)
13:30:45 <sbp> pixel: DON'T DO IT AGAIN THEN
13:30:50 <pixel> heheh
13:30:53 <sbp> :-)
13:31:00 <sbp> (also, arrrr me matey)
13:31:09 <pixel> hey, it was like 2001.
13:31:19 <sbp> back when the air was so fresh and gay
13:31:32 <pixel> exactly. and I knew little of rdf.
13:31:39 <sbp> when triples sprung freely in the meadows
13:31:52 <sbp> and anonymous nodes jaunted with ease on the leas
13:32:05 <Talliesin> Arr.
13:32:12 <pixel> nice.
13:32:14 <sbp> arr
13:32:23 <pixel> Argh matey, where be the rdf wenches!
13:32:29 * sbp points
13:32:37 <pixel> so, anyone used sieve?
13:32:44 <sbp> nope
13:32:50 <pixel> damn.
13:33:09 <pixel> I thought I'd try something other than procmail, and there isn't much in the way of docs for sieve.
13:33:41 <pixel> short of an RFC.
13:34:13 <bjoern_> At least I know what you are talking about. Now that you mention the RFC...
13:34:37 <pixel> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3028.html Sieve: A Mail Filtering Language
13:34:52 <pierpa> phenny, "引车买浆之流”有云:「好话不在言多」。"?
13:35:00 <phenny> pierpa: "Directs class of the Che Maijiang "to have the cloud: "The good speech are not many in the word"." (zh)
13:36:41 <sbp> phenny: "キャッ党 忍伝 てやんでえ"?
13:36:45 <phenny> sbp: "The キャッ party patience transmission て stopping, it can," (ja)
13:37:13 <bjoern_> party patience transmission is a good name for some tv series such as
13:37:28 <sbp> pierpa: "da nomadi che erano, in agricoltori, e che abbia anche dato ad essi altre leggi, e per primo istituito i sissizi"?
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13:37:56 <Talliesin> (2:24:27 PM) pixel: Argh matey, where be the rdf wenches!
13:37:56 <Talliesin> Good point. Many of the other lists I'm on have more in the way of willing wenches.
13:38:15 <sbp> alright, who broke pierpa?
13:38:23 <Talliesin> We need more people of submissive inclinations. If only for today.
13:38:24 <bjoern_> Monty did.
13:38:27 <Monty> organisation's fridge screws desktop meal, apparently.
13:38:30 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Welcoming Willing Wenches"
13:38:48 <pierpa> no one! I'm back.
13:38:55 *** DrBacchus changed the topic to: "Welcoming Willing Wrenches"
13:39:09 <sbp> noooooOo. our wenches!
13:39:09 *** bjoern_ changed the topic to: "Welcoming Willing Wonkey Wrenches"
13:39:23 *** sbp changed the topic to: "We Welcome Willing Wonky Wrenches"
13:39:31 <sbp> this could get out of hand
13:39:38 *** DrBacchus changed the topic to: "We Welcome Willing Monky Wrenches"
13:39:55 <bjoern_> .gc threepwood monkey wrench
13:39:58 <phenny> threepwood monkey wrench: 437
13:40:08 <pierpa> sbp: "sissitian nomad were data esso laws prime" (it)
13:40:22 <sbp> pierpa: heh!
13:40:26 <pierpa> :)
13:41:13 <pierpa> phenny, "Merhaba"?
13:41:19 <phenny> pierpa: Hmm, got "malay"...
13:41:28 <sbp> you can force the language, by the way
13:41:34 <pierpa> how?
13:41:37 <sbp> phenny: it "Merhaba"?
13:41:41 <phenny> sbp: "Merhaba" (it)
13:41:44 <sbp> phenny: pt "Merhaba"?
13:41:47 <phenny> sbp: "Merhaba" (pt)
13:41:50 <sbp> or whatever
13:41:52 <pierpa> phenny, tr "Merhaba"?
13:41:55 <phenny> pierpa: Hmm, got "tr"...
13:41:59 <sbp> hehe
13:42:02 <pierpa> hmmm
13:42:13 <sbp> she can't translate Turkish
13:42:17 <sbp> only...
13:42:21 * sbp gets the list
13:42:42 <sbp> 'english': 'en',
13:42:42 <sbp> 'french': 'fr',
13:42:42 <sbp> 'spanish': 'es',
13:42:42 <sbp> 'portuguese': 'pt',
13:42:42 <sbp> 'german': 'de',
13:42:43 <sbp> 'italian': 'it',
13:42:47 <sbp> 'korean': 'ko',
13:42:50 <sbp> 'japanese': 'ja',
13:42:51 <sbp> 'chinese': 'zh',
13:42:55 <sbp> 'dutch': 'nl',
13:42:57 <sbp> 'greek': 'el',
13:43:02 <sbp> 'russian': 'ru'
13:43:37 <sbp> - http://inamidst.com/phenny/modules/translate.py
13:43:43 <pierpa> phenny, "Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita, mi ritrovai per una selva oscura che la diritta via era smarrita."?
13:43:46 <phenny> pierpa: "In means of the cammin of our life, I found again myself for a dark forest that the straight one via smarrita." (it)
13:43:56 <pierpa> not bad
13:44:12 <sbp> it's just, like, Babelfish
13:44:19 <sbp> nothing fancy or homegrown
13:44:42 <sbp> the novel bit is bolting a language detector onto it
13:44:44 <sbp> saves you typing three chars
13:44:52 <sbp> or finding out the language yourself, occasionally
13:45:09 <pierpa> aha!
13:45:26 <sbp> and the source is online (see URI above)
13:45:39 <pierpa> yes. seen
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14:03:12 <sbp> .en roof
14:03:16 <phenny> roof , n , to (nm,toeon,toeau) , cronglwyd (nf,cronglwydi,cronglwydydd) , nen (nf,nennau,nennawr) , nennoedd () (BBC)
14:03:44 <phenny> IOError: [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known') (file "/home/sbp/phenny/web.py", line 32, in post)
14:05:26 <bjoern_> WTF
14:05:31 <bjoern_> EXPLAIN
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14:15:28 <Monty> yo tonybaloney_!
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14:24:22 <Talliesin> Avast! As well as being International Talk Like a Pirate Day, today is the birthday of the smiley http://research.microsoft.com/~mbj/Smiley/Smiley.html
14:29:30 <perigrin> Aye we have determined that today it is 10x the age my daughter was at my wedding.
14:31:09 <sbp> Dear Google,
14:31:22 <bjoern_> Dear Sbp,
14:31:24 <sbp> It's really time to buy better imagery for Google Maps UK.
14:31:26 <sbp> Microsoft are CANING YOUR ASS.
14:31:28 <sbp> Regards,
14:31:29 <sbp> sbp
14:31:34 <bjoern_> NO, U !
14:31:38 <sbp> heh
14:42:15 <Talliesin> sbp, blame Ordnance Survey
14:44:51 <bjoern_> Firefox again... http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.full-disclosure/55354
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14:53:46 <laplink_> .calc $399 in EUR
14:53:48 <phenny> laplink_: Sorry, no result.
14:53:55 <laplink_> .calc 399 USD in EUR
14:53:57 <phenny> 399 U.S. dollars = 287.671233 Euros
14:54:01 <laplink_> .calc 399 EUR in USD
14:54:03 <phenny> 399 Euros = 553.41300 U.S. dollars
14:54:19 <laplink_> That's… quite some “VAT”.
14:54:28 <bjoern_> value of dollar already too small for google to handle?
14:55:31 <sbp> I don't think it's the OS's problem
14:55:42 <sbp> because as I say, Microsoft have lovely aerial photography of most of the country now
14:55:45 <laplink_> Apple's iPhone division thinking Euros and Dollars must be worth about the same, so a $399 iPhone in the US should cost about 399 EUR.
14:55:47 <sbp> really hi-res
14:56:25 <laplink_> Well, fair enough; provided they offer it in .no for 399 NOK.
14:56:34 <laplink_> .calc 399 NOK in USD
14:56:37 <phenny> 399 Norwegian kroner = 70.871577 U.S. dollars
14:56:38 <sbp> heh
14:57:01 <bjoern_> They need the euros to compensate the dollar inflation...
14:57:40 <pierpa> aren't usually USA prices quoted with no tax, and european prices with VAT already added?
14:58:04 <bjoern_> the latter is required for b2c
14:58:09 <Arnia> sbp: Google's imagery got better this year though... still not up to the level of MS's but... better
14:59:18 <Arnia> If you do quote a VAT-free price, you have to do it in fairly small print and make it clear that this is the price without VAT
14:59:46 <Arnia> Besides businesses can't buy at the VAT-free price, they can merely claim the VAT back on their next VAT return
15:00:21 <bjoern_> ... in britain?
15:00:26 <laplink_> .calc 553 - 399
15:00:28 <phenny> 553 - 399 = 154
15:00:41 <Arnia> bjoern_: well, that's the rules here
15:01:02 <Arnia> bjoern_: you're allowed to put the VAT-free price but only in b2b publications and only in small print
15:01:20 <bjoern_> I meant the last point
15:01:23 <laplink_> .calc (100 / 399) * 154
15:01:26 <Arnia> VAT accounting is hideously confusing
15:01:28 <pierpa> I think it's the same here in .it
15:01:30 <phenny> (100 / 399) * 154 = 38.5964912
15:01:38 <Arnia> A VAT registration is like a bank account running in reverse
15:01:42 <bjoern_> I don't remember that, at least here in germany, and, err, in the previous millenium.
15:01:54 <Arnia> You buy something and you can declare a negative VAT entry
15:02:04 <laplink_> So is the VAT in .de ~40% on electronics?
15:02:05 <Arnia> You sell something and you declare a positive VAT entry
15:02:44 <Arnia> You then, quarterly, send your returns (including any payments you may have to make if it is positive; if it is negative you get money back)
15:03:02 <bjoern_> Merkel wanted to raise it from 16 to 18, the social democrates didn't want to change it all all, so they agreed to raise it to 19% ...
15:03:25 <bjoern_> .calc 21 times 8 billion EUR
15:03:27 <phenny> 21 times 8 billion Euros = 233.01600 billion U.S. dollars
15:03:32 <Arnia> Generally though, if it is negative then either you're a business which sells non-chargable items (zero rate) or you're going bankrupt
15:18:19 * laplink_ supermaterializes sbp…
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15:20:25 <sbp> deltab: Shaun, 1!
15:33:32 <procto> Monty wrenches?
15:33:34 <Monty> L6T:tpn ewan tc-40 techcrunch bubble
15:33:44 <procto> hahha
15:34:22 <Arnia> procto: enjoying your logical positivism?
15:35:37 <procto> well, I was done with logical posinivism a few years ago, but it's fun to wallow in nonetheless
15:35:51 <procto> positivism*
15:36:23 <bjoern_> .title http://www.variety.com/VR1117972202.html
15:36:31 <bjoern_> "They dwell too much on failures and scandals and politics," he said. "We want to spend a lot of time on innovation, successes and people who are making money."
15:36:32 <phenny> Can't connect to /
15:36:33 <Arnia> I know someone who claims that logical positivism is a good idea abandoned too soon. But then again he is an objectivist
15:36:42 <bjoern_> BUG
15:37:17 <procto> Arnia: I was just about to make the connection to objectivism actually
15:37:39 <procto> don't type as fast on this dvorak keyboard yet
15:37:50 <bjoern_> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7001538.stm
15:37:54 <phenny> bjoern_: BBC NEWS | Europe | EU anti-death penalty day vetoed
15:39:39 <Arnia> Silly objectivists :)
15:40:31 <Arnia> Desperate to find meaning, they can only understand meaning in relation to an external world defined in black and white.
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15:49:33 <sbp> imagery getting better: yeah, it did a little...
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15:55:42 <Monty> welcome, MoiraA
15:56:45 <Arnia> sbp: dramatically for Durham... it used to be a horrible blur... now you can make out actual buildings
15:56:54 <Arnia> Before you couldn't even make out the cathedral
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16:15:39 <MoiraA> hello Monty
16:15:40 <Monty> constipated yummy parents!
16:18:47 <Arnia> ...
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16:20:33 <Arnia> I wonder if anyone has done a study of paranoia in online communities
16:21:34 <bjoern_> Of course THEY do.
16:22:27 <Arnia> :p I'm looking at Groklaw again and marvelling at the elaborate conspiracies many of the posters seem to take as being 'normal'
16:24:08 <Arnia> Of course, if these shadowy big business types were in fact capable of this level of conspiracy, they'd never get caught out. This seems to escape all the 'analysts' however
16:24:30 <Arnia> If I said any of this on site however I'd be called a shill, which makes me giggle
16:29:53 <bjoern_> You say this as if there is some flaw in their logic?
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16:34:09 <Arnia> Oddly, yes. I'm just curious to know how the information of external threat is spread through a culture and self-reinforces to such an incredible degree
16:34:54 <Arnia> I feel it would shed a lot of insight onto how information spreads through a community in general, and how trust (as in information trust, not action trust) works in the human mind
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16:56:02 <happen> The moon is in its First Quarter.
16:58:50 <procto> Arnia: have you read The Myth of the Rational Voter? I'm crunching through now. Quite good, talks about simisar things
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17:18:50 <Arnia> I'll get it as soon as I can
17:20:45 <Arnia> One thing that has always puzzled me is exactly why people in such a mental state will claim that they're somehow objective (hah) and simply speaking the obvious truth. How they're in possession of special knowledge, and anyone who disagrees with them is either a shill, a fiction or actively deceiving people
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17:35:37 <Monty> it's karamba38!
17:38:07 <sbp> first quarter!
17:38:49 * Arnia screams
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17:44:35 <Monty> yo alienbrain_!
17:44:47 <Arnia> "But SCO was not the only thing he was wrong on. He still calls Groklaw biased,
17:44:48 <Arnia> and while he apologised to his readers, his apology did not extend to all those
17:44:49 <Arnia> he has dissed in his articles along the way."
17:44:56 <Arnia> Sorry, but isn't Groklaw biased?
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17:49:55 <deltab> probably
17:50:55 <Arnia> I've yet to find an unbiased source
17:51:01 <deltab> the first thing I was told to do in my history course was to write B I A S to fill the last page of my exercise book
17:51:44 <deltab> so that we didn't forget that everyone is biased
17:52:36 <Arnia> Good advice
17:53:32 <Arnia> Anyone in the North East fancy seeing Gravenhurst on the 23rd October in Newcastle?
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18:00:42 <glen_quagmire> is nameserver same as dns server?
18:02:59 <thelsdj> generally, yes
18:03:14 <thelsdj> dns is a type of nameserver
18:03:19 <glen_quagmire> for a dns entry, i can't make it point to some other domain right?
18:03:26 <thelsdj> you can
18:04:21 <deltab> depends what you mean by "entry" and "point"
18:05:06 <glen_quagmire> this is really complicated
18:05:33 <glen_quagmire> i want a.com to actually show a web app hosted at b.com
18:05:51 <glen_quagmire> main.a.com traffic should not go to b.com
18:06:10 <glen_quagmire> but i think it's weird
18:06:11 <deltab> will the webserver at b.com respond to http requests for a.com?
18:06:48 <glen_quagmire> i think so.
18:07:05 <glen_quagmire> i don't think this is simple meta redirect
18:07:16 <deltab> if so then b.com can have a copy of the address record used by b.com
18:07:21 <glen_quagmire> like, a.com/login/ -> b.com/login/
18:07:48 <deltab> no such thing as "meta redirect"
18:08:14 <glen_quagmire> right now, b.com/login/ is live. my boss wants me to make a.com live
18:08:49 <glen_quagmire> i think that means a.com/login and b.com/login are the same web application hosted at some ip
18:08:59 <thelsdj> well the simplest is just point a.com to the same ip as b.com
18:09:01 <deltab> you can make the name a.com resolve to the ip address b.com is at
18:09:15 <thelsdj> if your application only responds to b.com you'll need to fix it to also respond to a.com
18:09:23 <glen_quagmire> but mail.a.com and other sub-domains should not go to that ip
18:09:40 <thelsdj> yea you can setup those separately
18:09:51 <glen_quagmire> so is this all in DNS entry?
18:09:51 <thelsdj> just don't use a wildcard
18:09:59 * glen_quagmire tries to narrow what to google for
18:10:09 <thelsdj> well, what do you use for dns?
18:10:44 <glen_quagmire> a.com is managed by godaddy name server. b.com is managed by eapps nameserver. web app is also hosted at eapps
18:11:10 <thelsdj> ok so just use godaddy to set a.com to point to the ip
18:11:13 <glen_quagmire> I can make a.com to be managed by eapps nameserver, or change DNS entries on godaddy nameserver
18:11:24 <thelsdj> ya either way
18:11:40 <deltab> before you cahnge anything elsewhere though, try changing your hosts file
18:11:58 <thelsdj> right
18:12:26 <thelsdj> you on windows? if so its something like c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
18:12:27 <glen_quagmire> a.com is a parked domain i think. we are not using godaddy as hosting service.
18:12:56 <deltab> look up the ip address of the eapps http server, and put that in hosts with the name b.com
18:14:18 <glen_quagmire> when I visit a.com it shows Welcome to Windows Small Business Server 2003. I don't have that machine.
18:14:43 <deltab> you don't need to do anything to other machines to try this
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18:15:04 <glen_quagmire> oh
18:15:38 <deltab> this is purely changing where your machine connects to for a given name
18:16:33 <thelsdj> glen_quagmire: ya edit this file on _your_ computer then go to a.com and hopefully you should see your webapp, if not you'll have to configure eapps to point a.com to your web app
18:16:43 <glen_quagmire> oh found hosts file on my windows xp
18:17:03 <deltab> for example add 72.14.207.99 microsoft.com to hosts
18:17:22 <deltab> save the file then visit microsoft.com
18:17:55 <deltab> hmm, maybe not the best example
18:18:14 <deltab> 66.35.250.150 microsoft.com
18:19:04 <glen_quagmire> shoudl I restart the machine to make it effective?
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18:19:14 <thelsdj> nope
18:19:19 <bjoern_> no, but restarting the browser might be necessary
18:19:21 <thelsdj> just save the file
18:19:22 <deltab> no need
18:19:29 <thelsdj> ya browser might cache
18:19:31 <glen_quagmire> oh it works now
18:20:24 <glen_quagmire> hrm. but won't the ip of web application change?
18:20:41 <deltab> maybe
18:21:06 <deltab> this works for those ip addresses because the webservers there ignore the domain name used to access them
18:21:37 <thelsdj> right, the point of this test is to see whether you'll need to configure eapps to point requests to a.com to your webapp
18:21:48 <thelsdj> or whether its already configured
18:22:12 <deltab> other servers might host multiple sites on one ip address, in which case they use the hostname to distinguish between them
18:22:22 <glen_quagmire> so, i now have to change DNS entry in godaddy
18:22:30 <deltab> uh
18:22:40 <deltab> have you tried making the change in hosts first?
18:22:47 <glen_quagmire> yes
18:22:57 <glen_quagmire> on my machine, a.com behaves same as b.com
18:22:58 <thelsdj> and did it work? (did you see your web app when visiting a.com)
18:23:00 <deltab> do you get the site you want?
18:23:09 <glen_quagmire> yup
18:23:10 <thelsdj> ok, so if so, ya change a.com to point to the ip
18:23:17 <thelsdj> (at godaddy)
18:23:50 <glen_quagmire> but, can I make a.com point to b.com instead of the ip?
18:23:55 <deltab> no
18:24:02 <deltab> not reliably
18:24:19 <thelsdj> ya, for a top level domain you need to use the ip
18:24:27 <thelsdj> for stuff like foo.a.com its different
18:24:42 <deltab> ?
18:24:57 <thelsdj> CNAME records are reliable
18:25:05 <thelsdj> but shouldn't use them for top level
18:25:34 <deltab> CNAME records are not reliable
18:26:06 <deltab> that is, they have rules and behaviour you might not expect
18:26:54 <glen_quagmire> so, can I put CNAME @ b.com ?
18:27:10 <glen_quagmire> or CNAME @ ip-of-b.com
18:27:18 <deltab> if you have a CNAME at a.com, you can't have any other a.com records; that means no MX records and no mail
18:27:25 <deltab> no, do not use CNAME
18:27:55 <thelsdj> use plain old A record that points to ip of b.com
18:29:03 <glen_quagmire> I'll try A @ ip-of-b.com
18:29:41 <deltab> right (though it's usually written @ IN A 1.2.3.4)
18:29:42 <glen_quagmire> There are entries: (A @ ip-of-a.com), (A mx ip-of-a.com), (A www ip-of-a.com)
18:30:07 <glen_quagmire> oh i don't know. I'm looking at godaddy's web interface
18:30:24 * glen_quagmire crosses fingers
18:30:30 <deltab> just so you know; they seem to be doing something a bit different
18:31:46 <deltab> "@" means a.com itself; the other records give the addresses of mx.a.com and www.a.com
18:32:21 <glen_quagmire> hrm does it take time to make it effective?
18:32:22 <thelsdj> glen_quagmire: you'll _probably_ want to point www at ip of b.com also
18:32:38 <thelsdj> glen_quagmire: want to [off] a.com domain name so we can test?
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18:33:18 <thelsdj> glen_quagmire: your isp might be caching the old ip
18:33:34 <deltab> glen_quagmire: generally within seconds or minutes; however, DNS caches could be holding onto old records for a while
18:34:02 <deltab> that's especially likely with your own domain name if you've been trying to use it already
18:35:12 <thelsdj> glen_quagmire: works here
18:35:23 <thelsdj> so most likely you have old cache if not working for you
18:35:27 <thelsdj> i get same webpage at both
18:36:21 <deltab> yes, they have the same address
18:37:18 <glen_quagmire> alright
18:37:39 <glen_quagmire> So, i think when eapps somehow changes ip address of b.com, i'll have to update A entry on godaddy
18:38:38 <deltab> yes; but that's unlikely, and they'd contact you about it
18:38:59 <glen_quagmire> great!
18:39:17 <deltab> well, I expect so
18:39:35 <deltab> no, different address
18:39:45 <glen_quagmire> nice then i think it's all fine for now
18:39:57 <glen_quagmire> thank you very much deltab and thelsdj
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18:40:29 <glen_quagmire> oh crap. how would i say to my boss I tested if they work properly? asked IRC friends?
18:40:48 * glen_quagmire searches for proxy
18:41:18 <deltab> use dnsbajaj
18:41:43 <sbp> you enquired of the Swhack Social Forum, of course
18:42:17 <sbp> would it help you if we charged? then you could call us consultants that you outsourced the problem to
18:42:25 <deltab> oh, that just shows you the nameserver chain
18:43:36 <glen_quagmire> hoa that's nice
18:44:49 <bjoern_> .wik GABELN
18:44:53 <phenny> "Die erste Walpurgisnacht (The First Walpurgis Night) is a cantata for choir and orchestra written by Felix Mendelssohn." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_erste_Walpurgisnacht
18:45:03 <bjoern_> interesting.
18:50:38 <bjoern_> .wik Irminonic
18:50:41 <phenny> "The Irminones, also referred to as Herminones or Hermiones, were a group of early Germanic tribes settling in the Elbe watershed and by the 1st century AD expanding into Bavaria, Swabia and Bohemia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irminones
18:53:21 <Arnia> Monty: remind me in 480 minutes to ask SL about capabilities
18:53:23 <Monty> Arnia: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Sep 20 03:45:19 BST 2007
18:53:37 <Arnia> ... ok, I'll probably still be awake then :p
19:02:45 <procto> fun timez drawing syntax trees
19:03:47 * procto throws a wrench at Monty
19:03:48 <Monty> NO, U!
19:05:26 <sbp> timez?!
19:05:32 <procto> timez.
19:05:35 <sbp> don't let bjoern_ go to your head
19:05:47 <bjoern_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fighter is fun
19:05:54 <procto> sbp: it's actually not bjoern_, it's some romanian dude on one of my other channels
19:06:01 <sbp> romanian?!
19:06:14 <procto> his online speech mannerisms are incredulogenic
19:06:29 <sbp> bwahaha. 'People who describe themselves (or are described by their sponsors) as "freedom fighters" tend to be called assassins, rebels, or terrorists by their foes.'
19:06:52 <bjoern_> [[[
19:06:58 <bjoern_> See also
19:06:58 <bjoern_> * Assassin
19:06:58 <bjoern_> * Doublespeak
19:06:58 <bjoern_> * Irregular military
19:06:58 <bjoern_> * Terrorism
19:06:59 <bjoern_> ]]]
19:07:04 <procto> people who fight for freedom instead of buying it are working too hard and risking too much.
19:07:11 <procto> ;P
19:07:26 <sbp> perhaps they're working because they have no money to pay for the freedom
19:07:39 <bjoern_> warez itz
19:07:59 <procto> money is a thing, that's for sure
19:08:14 <sbp> okay
19:08:15 <sbp> so
19:08:19 <sbp> the word assassin
19:08:42 <sbp> I contend it ought to be spelled thus:
19:08:42 <sbp> ass²in
19:09:02 <procto> doesn't that imply ass squared?
19:09:04 <sbp> it'll save so much typing, and it's unambiguous
19:09:04 <bjoern_> .gc buttbuttin
19:09:08 <phenny> buttbuttin: 121
19:09:10 <procto> isn't ass squared really:
19:09:11 <procto> ass
19:09:12 <procto> ass
19:09:16 <sbp> no
19:09:24 <sbp> you can write pq for p times q
19:09:32 <sbp> so assass for ass² is fine
19:09:41 <sbp> and hence ass² for assass
19:09:43 <bjoern_> @translate english to german assassin
19:09:45 <supybot> bjoern_: Meuchelmörder
19:09:48 <bjoern_> hehe
19:09:52 <procto> why not ass2in?
19:10:09 <sbp> because that's ass * 2 * in
19:10:09 <sbp> which is just weird
19:10:15 <procto> true
19:10:21 <bjoern_> .gc asstwin
19:10:24 <phenny> asstwin: 553
19:10:25 <procto> I'm unhappy with superscript 2 there
19:10:39 <sbp> well it also proselytises Unicode
19:10:43 <sbp> which can only be a good thing
19:10:53 <kpreid> well, superscript 2 is in 8859-1...
19:11:01 <procto> {ass}(2)in?
19:11:08 <bjoern_> ass²in
19:11:17 <sbp> and iso-8859-1's characters are subsumed into Unicode
19:11:18 <bjoern_> THERE TAKE THAT
19:11:32 <sbp> procto: that's longer than assassin!
19:11:47 <sbp> WHERE IS YOUR HUFFMANISATION GONE MAH MAN?!
19:11:50 <procto> hahaha
19:11:53 <bjoern_> .gc 2assin
19:11:56 <phenny> 2assin: 43
19:12:06 <bjoern_> ABNF MAN
19:12:26 <sbp> and his sidekick, RNGBOY
19:12:32 <procto> people who eat peanuts live longer than people who don't eat
19:12:41 <procto> sbp: haha
19:12:45 <sbp> unless they're allergic to peanuts
19:12:51 <procto> sbp: true
19:12:56 <procto> we are discussing it in class...
19:13:15 <procto> I prefer the fact that everyone who ate cucumbers in the 18th century has died.
19:13:18 <sbp> let me guess, a Classics course?
19:13:22 <procto> Semantics
19:13:25 <procto> :>
19:13:29 <procto> just starting
19:13:42 <procto> ugh, shit, my battery is low
19:13:48 <procto> I forgot to charge it overnight
19:13:57 <bjoern_> Just install a fresh heart.
19:14:09 <procto> gotta bounce!
19:14:28 <sbp> sproing
19:15:07 <sbp> Ҩ
19:15:16 <sbp> (universal symbol of sproingishness)
19:15:33 <deltab> hehe
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19:21:27 <bjoern_> oooh
19:21:29 <bjoern_> .wik Mooring (North Frisian dialect)
19:21:32 <phenny> "Mooring or Bökingharde Frisian (Böökinghiirder frasch) is a dialect of the North Frisian language spoken in Niebüll and the amt of Bökingharde in the German region of North Frisia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mooring_(North_Frisian_dialect)
19:21:33 <bjoern_> there ya go
19:23:41 <sbp> okay that is an awesome name
19:27:30 <bjoern_> .gc nordfraschloenj
19:27:33 <phenny> nordfraschloenj: 927
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19:40:34 <bjoern_> ooh nice
19:40:36 <bjoern_> .wik Eala Freya Fresena
19:40:40 <phenny> "Eala Freya Fresena is the motto for the coat of arms of the east Frisia region in northern Germany." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eala_Freya_Fresena
19:40:52 <sbp> Monty: hiding under you, 'k?
19:40:53 <bjoern_> Quite extended since I last checked.
19:40:54 <Monty> ironically we originally
19:41:04 <thelsdj> so looks like its just us that are fucked
19:41:19 <bjoern_> is that good or bad?
19:42:27 <sbp> wow, this made me LOL:
19:42:28 <sbp> "It was renewed by Charles the Fat in 885 for saving him from Normans."
19:42:44 <thelsdj> the US/UK/Germany are the ones with the most fucked up financial situation it seems
19:43:08 <sbp> shouldn't laugh too much though coz I'm probably descended from him
19:43:19 <sbp> then again, I am descended from the Normans, so it works both ways
19:43:26 <bancus> What does it mean?
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19:44:02 <Monty> it's idickinson!
19:44:36 <thelsdj> I'm related to Mary, Queen of Scots I think, though not that thats even very useful at dinner parties
19:45:01 * bancus is related to Longshanks, according to the family geneologist.
19:45:05 <bancus> And a bunch of other folks.
19:45:12 <bancus> Eleanor of Aquitaine
19:46:18 <sbp> the nice thing is that once you link into any royalty anywhere, you can link to pretty much anyone else
19:46:53 * sbp is descended from John of Gaunt
19:46:53 <bancus> Bunch of incestuous bastards.
19:47:00 <sbp> yup
19:47:18 <bjoern_> Yeah, that gives "big bang" a whole new meaning...
19:47:54 <sbp> hehe
19:48:45 <sbp> good example:
19:48:46 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carlos_segun
19:48:46 <sbp> do80.png
19:48:48 <sbp> er
19:48:52 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carlos_segundo80.png
19:49:01 * sbp got it out of IRC logs, via patbam
19:49:03 <bjoern_> .wik The Moorings, New York
19:49:06 <phenny> "The Moorings is a guard-gated private community in the unincorporated East Islip hamlet of Suffolk County, New York and is not a census-designated place within itself." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moorings,_New_York
19:50:21 <bjoern_> .wik Arthur Mooring
19:50:24 <phenny> "Sir George Mooring known to his friends as Satan for unknown reasons, possibly his eyebrows, was British Resident in Zanzibar from January 1960 to December 1963." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Mooring
19:51:20 <bjoern_> .wik Smacks
19:51:23 <phenny> "Honey Smacks is a sweetened puffed wheat breakfast cereal made by Kellogg's. Introduced in 1953, the cereal has undergone several name changes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smacks
19:51:34 <bjoern_> Honey!?!
19:51:39 <Tene> .wik phenny
19:51:41 <bjoern_> I found a purple donkey in mine
19:51:43 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "phenny".
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19:54:19 <bjoern_> Made by "LOGISTIX LTD" I kid you not.
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19:55:48 <sbp> bjoern_: check out http://members.fortunecity.com/rightsofman/manucharian/ztbltre4.html
19:55:56 <sbp> the "Satan" thing was added by someone called Julia
19:56:07 <sbp> and according to that page, Sir Satan really did have a daughter named Julia
19:56:20 <sbp> (she claims, in the change comments, to be his daughter)
19:56:31 <bjoern_> She married Romeo?
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19:56:44 <sbp> no. John S. Hughes
19:56:53 <sbp> the S may stand for Satan
19:57:40 <bjoern_> '''AUTHORESS OF "Oh Yes ! We're British -- A Family History."'''
19:58:09 <sbp> heh
19:59:19 <bjoern_> "Yes, we're British. Yes, we need therapy. No, we're not on ..." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB2vdpnGONA
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20:00:27 <bjoern_> Okay that is terrible
20:01:28 <sbp> yes
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20:02:01 <sbp> promises so much, and ends up being such as
20:02:36 <bjoern_> .compare "yes we are french" "yes we are the iraq" "yes we are chinese" "yes we are german" "yes we are british"
20:02:44 <phenny> "yes we are british" (2,720), "yes we are chinese" (2,290), "yes we are french" (1,130), "yes we are german" (5), "yes we are the iraq" (0)
20:04:33 <bjoern_> "PS: By the way, yes we are french. You did notice ze spelling... Let that not deter you! There are about 300 000 of us in London. Cosmopolitan city indeed. We're all here for the quality baked beans. God save the queen. " - http://www.thelondonsite.net/
20:04:47 <sbp> s/queen/Queen/
20:05:01 <bjoern_> .wik Quina Quen
20:05:04 <phenny> "This is a list of characters in the PlayStation role-playing game Final Fantasy IX." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quina_Quen
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20:05:41 <bjoern_> Wikisuxxors converted all the good pages into single page purple donkey monsters.
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20:10:53 <sbp> why is they whould whom that do that?
20:12:46 <bjoern_> yes.
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20:35:33 <bjoern_> stone
20:35:34 <Monty> I chose stone - Draw!
20:35:37 <bjoern_> rock
20:35:38 <dahut> bjoern_ wins! (I had scissors.)
20:37:34 <procto> triumphant return!
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20:44:21 <laplink> «Are you, as a cat, prepared to accept certain intellectual precepts?»
20:44:47 <thelsdj> NO!
20:45:01 <bjoern_> You mean /license/ intellectual precepts?
20:49:01 <laplink> <http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070917>, btw.
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21:27:10 <Monty> welcome, raxor
21:27:14 <raxor> Monty!
21:27:15 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
21:27:18 <raxor> vey
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22:17:09 <procto> who does Monty greet?
22:17:10 <Monty> What do you think ?
22:17:26 <procto> Monty seems very intelligible today. Was there a code change?
22:17:29 <Monty> CLI lubricant reminds me of removing merchants!
22:17:40 <procto> ah, ok, return to good ol' Monty.
22:17:41 <Monty> Ewan a panic attack last weekend
22:17:53 <bjoern_> NO, U MONTY
22:17:57 <Monty> perigrin: well, one should give Apple wants me lovin' yoooooooo
22:18:10 *** bjoern_ changed the topic to: "<Monty> perigrin: well, one should give Apple wants me lovin' yoooooooo"
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22:18:39 <perigrin> Monty, yooooooo!
22:18:40 <Monty> skype over EDGE, hmmm
22:19:27 <perigrin> Monty, why would anybody want to do that is what beats me
22:19:30 <Monty> I've heard that you grow up with extended ravens :(
22:19:43 <bjoern_> I heard that too, actually.
22:23:06 <bancus> APPLE LOVIN HOOOOOOOO
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22:30:12 <perigrin> Monty, bjoern_ heard that too
22:30:15 <Monty> Nauruan malaise fornicates with the_other_cj's keybinding.
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