2007-09-29 Swhack IRC Log

00:00:22 <sbp> .compare "TYOL 2007" "TYoOL 2007"
00:00:23 <thelsdj> .compare ityol ityool
00:00:24 <phenny> "TYOL 2007" (1), "TYoOL 2007" (0)
00:00:26 <phenny> ityol (58), ityool (41)
00:01:07 <bjoern_> .gc "fairy fairy gay"
00:01:10 <phenny> "fairy fairy gay": 0
00:01:32 <sbp> .gc "Brian Ferry's gay"
00:01:35 <phenny> "Brian Ferry's gay": 0
00:01:46 <bjoern_> .gc "fairly gay"
00:01:48 <phenny> "fairly gay": 3,480
00:01:55 <bjoern_> .gc "almost gay"
00:01:57 <phenny> "almost gay": 19,300
00:02:03 <thelsdj> .gc "a little gay"
00:02:06 <phenny> "a little gay": 88,200
00:02:23 <bjoern_> .gc mediumly
00:02:24 <phenny> mediumly: 12,400
00:02:28 <sbp> .gc supergay megagay hypergay ultragay paragay metagay quazigay
00:02:29 <phenny> supergay megagay hypergay ultragay paragay metagay quazigay: 0
00:02:34 <sbp> .compare supergay megagay hypergay ultragay paragay metagay quazigay
00:02:38 <phenny> supergay (86,500), paragay (18,200), megagay (4,530), hypergay (2,730), ultragay (731), metagay (265), quazigay (16)
00:02:46 <sbp> quazi-? heh
00:02:46 <bjoern_> .gc quasigay
00:02:47 <phenny> quasigay: 25
00:02:51 <sbp> .g... thanks
00:02:57 <thelsdj> .gc nazigay
00:02:57 <phenny> nazigay: 1,250
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00:03:13 <bjoern_> .gc metagay
00:03:14 <phenny> metagay: 265
00:03:20 <bjoern_> oh right
00:03:22 <sbp> right
00:03:24 <thelsdj> bjoern_: we did that one
00:03:52 <bjoern_> yeah I still operate on the 5 terms .compare limit
00:04:23 <sbp> heheh
00:04:27 <thelsdj> ah, you a legacy system eh?
00:04:33 <sbp> ooh, the footie's on
00:04:36 <sbp> still 0-0
00:05:18 <sbp> hahaha, wtf?
00:05:25 <thelsdj> wtf, hahah?
00:05:30 <sbp> .de goalkeeper kicks it out to the nearest player
00:05:40 <sbp> who faffs it up, kicks it back to the goalkeeper
00:05:54 <sbp> who almost loses it to a .br striker, and then only just clears it to another defender...
00:06:27 <bjoern_> it's to irritate the enemy, like we did in 1954.
00:07:14 <sbp> 1954?
00:07:22 <thelsdj> .wik 1954
00:07:24 <phenny> "Year 1954 (MCMLIV) was a common year starting on Friday (link will display full calendar) of the Gregorian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954
00:07:30 <bjoern_> .wik Wunder von Bern
00:07:33 <phenny> "The Miracle of Bern (German title: Das Wunder von Bern) is a 2003 film by Sönke Wortmann, which tells the story of a German family and the unexpected West German miracle victory in the 1954 World Cup Final in Bern, Switzerland, on July 4 1954, and the story of a young [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Bern
00:07:46 <sbp> aha!
00:08:24 <sbp> oh, against the Hungarians
00:09:20 <bjoern_> A few days ago a women came into a german hospital with a blood alcohol concentration of 6.1
00:09:47 <thelsdj> that would be some yummy blod
00:09:48 <bjoern_> that in itself is astonishing, but what I haven't noticed then was that it happened in a town named Leer.
00:09:49 <thelsdj> blood
00:09:55 <sbp> hmm. they should get the national team to play the Vauxhall Conference winners or something
00:10:00 <bjoern_> ... which is the german word for "Empty"
00:10:08 <sbp> or the winners of whatever the Vauxhall Conference is called now
00:10:19 <bjoern_> .wik Vauxhall Conference
00:10:22 <phenny> "The Football Conference is a football league at the top of the National League System of non-League football in England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Conference
00:10:29 <sbp> did she drink more than 60 pints?
00:10:41 <sbp> ah, just the Football Conference now? heh
00:10:53 * bjoern_ shrugs
00:11:34 <sbp> hmm. Dagenham & Redbridge won it most recently
00:11:43 <sbp> to gain promotionz
00:11:48 <sbp> almost a Brazilian goal
00:13:17 <sbp> German shot, off-target
00:13:23 <sbp> it's so weird to watch. it's like slo-mo
00:13:31 <bjoern_> hehe
00:13:34 <bjoern_> well it's in China...
00:14:00 <sbp> pictures being reviewed for censorables before going out?
00:15:19 <sbp> I suspect that if football were considered a female sport, the quality would be much, much better
00:15:31 <thelsdj> .gc "in soviet china"
00:15:34 <phenny> "in soviet china": 907
00:15:59 <sbp> a foul! omg
00:16:15 <sbp> how uncouth
00:16:27 <bjoern_> those pesky little .brs
00:16:44 <sbp> heh, they've strapped her up with some pink/purple tape
00:17:01 <thelsdj> they are worshiping the IPU!
00:17:45 <bjoern_> 5 + 45 minutes to go; "Deutschland! Deutschland!" chorus from the ranks.
00:18:25 <sbp> ref got in the way there
00:18:36 <thelsdj> Braziland!
00:18:47 <sbp> Braziltopia!
00:19:38 <sbp> Germany haven't been scored against so far?
00:19:46 <sbp> in the whole tournament
00:20:18 <bjoern_> Our commenter just mentioned the breathtaking speed in the last 20 minutes...
00:20:23 <sbp> heh!
00:20:37 <bjoern_> scored against us? no.
00:21:01 <sbp> wonder if that's ever happened in the Men's World Cup?
00:21:34 <thelsdj> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxB1gB6K-2A
00:21:37 <phenny> thelsdj: YouTube - Comic Relief - Catherine Tate & David Tennant
00:22:17 <sbp> the woman holding up the stoppage time board (1 minute) was *extremely* happy
00:22:37 <bjoern_> there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup_records#Goalkeeping
00:22:44 <sbp> or "friendship time board" as it's probably called there
00:23:12 <bjoern_> not much else in wikipedia, apparently, to answer the question
00:23:23 <sbp> hmm
00:23:35 <sbp> the answer is clearly no, though
00:23:49 <sbp> given that "Fewest goals conceded, one tournament, champions" is 2
00:24:28 <sbp> wow. they're just showing the .br goal chances
00:24:32 <bjoern_> ah right, I didn't read that far down...
00:24:36 <sbp> one of the strikers nutmegged the other striker
00:25:10 <sbp> there was a good volley
00:26:26 <sbp> oho, .de had someone sent off
00:26:39 <sbp> 10-woman team!
00:27:04 <thelsdj> sbp: some good shakespeare jokes in that video if you haven't seen it before
00:27:22 <sbp> nope, not seen it
00:27:37 <sbp> it was ages before I even saw the Tony Blair and Catherine Tate thing
00:27:49 <thelsdj> .g tony blair catherine tate
00:27:52 <phenny> thelsdj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sluVp4oknJw
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00:40:49 <thelsdj> http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=2416
00:46:09 <sbp> hehe. I found one along those lines yesterday
00:46:35 <sbp> http://e.photos.cx/m1-7b5.jpg
00:47:07 <sbp> (vaguely nsfw)
00:47:35 <thelsdj> .t DST
00:47:38 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'DST' timezone.
00:47:52 <sbp> .wik DST
00:47:55 <phenny> "Daylight saving time" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DST
00:48:37 <thelsdj> .t NZST
00:48:40 <phenny> Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:12:48 NZST
00:48:42 <thelsdj> .t NZDT
00:48:43 <bjoern_> pwnage!!
00:48:45 <phenny> Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:12:54 NZDT
00:49:01 <thelsdj> .t +13
00:49:04 <phenny> Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:13:12 +13
00:49:32 <bjoern_> now .de 1:0 .us
00:49:55 <sbp> ah! yeah
00:50:20 <sbp> there's a live video link on http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport
00:50:24 <sbp> but it says UK users only
00:50:29 <sbp> so you may have to use a proxy
00:50:46 <thelsdj> .t +14
00:50:48 <phenny> Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:14:57 +14
00:50:56 <thelsdj> .t +42
00:50:59 <phenny> Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:15:08 +42
00:51:15 <thelsdj> i just find the concept of +13 weird
00:51:45 <sbp> we should all use UTC
00:51:59 <thelsdj> though i guess its better than switching between +12 and -12 or something
00:52:16 <sbp> heh, yeah, imagine that
00:52:26 <sbp> it's confusing enough switching one hour
00:52:39 <thelsdj> but imagine getting an extra day of sleep!
00:52:45 <sbp> hehe. long weekend
00:53:02 <sbp> actually... yeah
00:53:10 <sbp> you could take a day of the week and shove it in the weekend
00:53:49 <sbp> "Needed to be a little more committed with the header. Keep her eyes open, perhaps?" - commentator
00:54:09 <bjoern_> .title http://www.dhs.gov/journal/leadership/
00:54:12 <phenny> bjoern_: Leadership Journal
00:54:42 <sbp> heh
00:54:51 <bjoern_> omg starts with "Welcoming Iraqi Refugees"
00:54:54 <thelsdj> .t CHADT
00:54:57 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'CHADT' timezone.
00:55:02 <thelsdj> sbp: fix it!
00:55:04 <sbp> .wik CHADT
00:55:07 <phenny> "New Zealand has two time zones." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_New_Zealand
00:55:12 <thelsdj> .t CHAST
00:55:14 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'CHAST' timezone.
00:55:19 <sbp> penalty!
00:55:27 <thelsdj> .t NZMT
00:55:29 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'NZMT' timezone.
00:55:45 <bjoern_> "To date, we have re-settled more than 940 Iraqis and we expect that number to climb."
00:55:58 <thelsdj> .t +13:45
00:56:00 <phenny> Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:20:10 +13:45
00:56:23 <bjoern_> You know, there are MILLIONS of refugees... and the U.S. tries very very hard to take as few as possible.
00:56:45 <thelsdj> sbp: that doesn't work either :(
00:56:46 <sbp> ahahaha
00:56:52 <sbp> she fluffed the penalty
00:56:56 <sbp> well, it was saved
00:57:11 <sbp> yeah, bit of both
00:57:38 <sbp> yeah, .t needs fixing
01:00:19 <sbp> wow, that was a good free kick
01:03:37 <sbp> "Big old-fashioned hoof!" - commentator
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01:05:25 <sbp> hey sixsicsix
01:06:04 <thelsdj> .origin sixsicsix
01:07:00 <phenny> Can't find info about sixsicsix*.
01:07:16 <bjoern_> LOL
01:07:17 <bjoern_> "info"
01:07:20 <thelsdj> ".origin"
01:07:21 <thelsdj> LOL
01:07:25 <sbp> pix plz
01:07:35 <bjoern_> sixsicsix: asl?
01:07:45 <bjoern_> asl plz kthx
01:07:50 <thelsdj> bjoern_: 25/m/az
01:08:02 <bjoern_> .wik .az
01:08:05 <phenny> ".az is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Azerbaijan." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.az
01:08:13 <thelsdj> LOL
01:08:16 <thelsdj> ".wik"
01:08:19 <sbp> IPU
01:08:25 <bjoern_> FSM
01:08:31 <thelsdj> JESUS
01:08:45 <qq> Sup
01:08:47 <sbp> she shoots!
01:08:49 <sbp> she misses
01:09:09 <thelsdj> LOL
01:09:11 <thelsdj> "qq"
01:09:16 <sbp> LOL
01:09:17 <sbp> "Sup"
01:09:18 <bjoern_> NO, U !
01:09:22 <sbp> |_|
01:09:30 <thelsdj> UNO!
01:09:45 <sbp> U NO U NO U NO MI NÂM
01:09:47 <bjoern_> .wik UNO
01:09:49 <phenny> "United Nations Organization" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNO
01:09:53 <qq> Just checking if sbp is pulling an emo passive agressive
01:09:55 <thelsdj> .wik UNO (game)
01:09:57 <phenny> "Uno (Italian, Spanish 'one') is a card game played with a specially printed deck (see Mau Mau for an almost identical game played with normal playing cards)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNO_(game)
01:10:11 <bjoern_> NO, NO EMOZ PLZ
01:10:11 * sbp kills qq
01:10:33 <sbp> "aggressive"
01:10:48 <thelsdj> EMU!
01:10:54 <qq> No passive agressive is:
01:11:00 <sbp> *aggressive*
01:11:02 * qq waits for sbp to die
01:11:27 <qq> KEY DIFFERENCE
01:11:45 * thelsdj waits for the heat death of the universe to remove all proof that qq existed
01:12:14 <sbp> so is sixsicsix a bot, then?
01:12:23 <bjoern_> The universe died long ago. We are approaching its birth.
01:12:47 <qq> I'm just guessing that sbp hates what I did in #secrets and is ignoring me because of this
01:13:00 <sbp> I'm not ignoring you
01:13:00 <qq> T / F
01:13:21 <thelsdj> He's just ignoring everything you say
01:13:24 <sbp> right
01:13:27 <sbp> KEY DIFFERENCE
01:13:33 <bjoern_> \/\/ T |= !
01:13:51 <qq> !-!
01:14:10 <sbp> ⓩⓞⓝⓖ
01:14:13 <bjoern_> those .brgirls should just give up
01:14:24 <sbp> yeah
01:15:09 <thelsdj> shift > move
01:15:20 <sbp> what about herft?
01:15:27 <bjoern_> remove < shift
01:15:40 <bjoern_> I wanted to write reduce, really, but distracted
01:16:04 <sbp> it's quite a good second half, really
01:16:23 <bjoern_> BREATHTAKIN SPEEDZ
01:16:27 <sbp> hehe
01:17:07 <sbp> wow, there was an offside
01:17:25 <sbp> I didn't realise until now that they weren't generating many of those
01:17:35 <sbp> which is to say *any*, in the time I've been watching it
01:18:21 <bjoern_> yes
01:18:46 <bjoern_> !!!!!!!!
01:18:52 <bjoern_> de 2:0 br
01:18:53 <sbp> chuckle at the photographer
01:18:57 <sbp> woah!
01:19:05 <sbp> heh, I'm on a bit of lag :-)
01:19:35 <bjoern_> hehe
01:19:55 <sbp> you're closer to China
01:19:57 <thelsdj> i was at my gf's grandfathers and was watching american football, he was in the garage listening to it on the radio and would pop his head in to call out interesting plays before they happened on the tv
01:20:04 <sbp> hehe
01:20:55 <sbp> she can'tarf take free kicks
01:21:25 <thelsdj> .gc cantarf
01:21:27 <phenny> cantarf: 94
01:21:59 * bjoern_ thinks, she's dead Jim
01:22:13 <sbp> heh
01:22:17 <thelsdj> I've won!
01:22:22 <thelsdj> oh wait no, just spam
01:22:26 <sbp> heh
01:22:47 <sbp> under a minute of regular time left
01:23:01 <thelsdj> I WIN!
01:23:01 <bjoern_> close
01:23:05 <thelsdj> really this time!
01:23:11 <bjoern_> 4 min
01:23:24 <sbp> we didn't get to see board lady's face
01:23:29 <bjoern_> lifetime supply of free spamz?
01:23:29 <sbp> I wonder if she was as happy again
01:23:51 <bjoern_> wow that hurt
01:24:14 <sbp> "FIFA in their wisdom has devised a long and drawn out presentation ceremony. We might even get medals." - commentator
01:24:50 <sbp> "We can claim this one as a win for Europe." - ibid.
01:24:51 <bjoern_> It's, like, Eurovision in China.
01:25:06 <sbp> hehe
01:25:07 <bjoern_> close
01:25:15 <sbp> hmm, yeah
01:26:03 <bjoern_> almost 3:0
01:26:10 <sbp> close
01:26:32 <bjoern_> WIR SIND WELTMEISTER !!
01:26:35 <bjoern_> Nobody can score against our females !!
01:26:37 <thelsdj> http://bp0.blogger.com/_48pIyTbrm4A/RvrsMute9HI/AAAAAAAAAOU/27umMDyPcfQ/s400/dream.jpg
01:26:55 <sbp> "Germany once again are the QUEENS of world football!" - commentator
01:27:04 <bjoern_> hehehe
01:27:18 <sbp> flags, jumping, etc.
01:27:43 <bjoern_> yeah, that, is, err, embarassing, really.
01:28:13 <bjoern_> pity .no lost against .us
01:28:18 <sbp> ah, they've just said that it's never been done before in the women's game either
01:28:44 <bjoern_> now...
01:28:46 <bjoern_> WATCH THIS:
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01:29:24 <sbp> could've used "WIR SIND WELTMEISTER !!" as the quit message at least
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01:33:16 <sbp> "For me, she was probably man of the match."
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02:00:47 <thelsdj> you know whats a cool word?
02:00:51 <thelsdj> rancid
02:01:08 <sbp> rancid is a cool word
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02:03:39 <thelsdj> .gc "* is a cool word"
02:03:41 <phenny> "* is a cool word": 22,300
02:03:59 <thelsdj> Shenanigans is the first result
02:04:17 <sbp> ooh
02:04:19 <thelsdj> fuck, monster, gnarly, cahoots, vagina
02:04:23 <sbp> bwahaha
02:04:33 <thelsdj> confabulation, shophomore
02:05:00 <thelsdj> peruse, snazzy, asshat, engma, lurch, qwerty
02:05:06 <thelsdj> AND!
02:05:11 <sbp> and the same with "awesome word":
02:05:15 <sbp> dingo, tofurkey, whizgiggle, squircle, assfuckwitards, fuckton, awesome, Tulonic, jazztastic
02:05:15 <thelsdj> <sbp> "Pestle" is a cool word
02:05:22 <sbp> ooh, pestle. yeah
02:05:24 <thelsdj> second page
02:05:25 <sbp> pestle is great
02:05:57 <sbp> I like squircle quite a lot
02:06:38 <thelsdj> spiffy, buff, cinchy, science, nahbubuhay, hemogloben, embrollment
02:07:03 <sbp> other selected results: quadroon, homosinuality, poppycock, compossible, smackies, floozy
02:07:54 <sbp> sleuthlikedly, nawkish, slacktimony, incrimidating, shitique
02:08:12 <thelsdj> gwrthwynebwyr
02:08:13 <sbp> omnichronic, dissimulate, codswallop
02:08:15 <sbp> hehe
02:08:21 <sbp> .cy gwrthwynebwyr
02:08:25 <phenny> gwrthwynebwr, nm (gwrthwynebwyr) opponent, objector (BBC)
02:08:34 <phenny> gwrthwynebwr opponent n.m. (gwrthwynebwyr) adversary n.m. (gwrthwynebwyr) antagonist n.m. (gwrthwynebwyr) (Geiriadur)
02:08:43 <thelsdj> against-face-people
02:08:59 <sbp> hahaha. Potterotica
02:09:09 <thelsdj> .gc potterotica
02:09:11 <phenny> potterotica: 1,430
02:09:14 <thelsdj> .g potterotica
02:09:16 <phenny> thelsdj: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1532470
02:09:48 <sbp> humptitude, doiley, ah! and bagarap, from Gallimaufry of Whits
02:09:53 <sbp> so I'm in both cool and awesome
02:10:04 <sbp> with pestle and bagarap
02:11:30 <sbp> neathage, jobber, gnarly
02:13:22 <thelsdj> nether
02:13:33 <sbp> æther
02:13:47 <thelsdj> əther
02:13:49 <sbp> æthenium
02:13:59 <thelsdj> .pc ə
02:14:01 <phenny> 0259: LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA (ə)
02:14:02 <sbp> ǝǝæ
02:14:20 <sbp> ÆÆÆÂÆÂÆƎ
02:14:25 <sbp> .pc Ǝ
02:14:27 <phenny> 018E: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER REVERSED E (Ǝ)
02:15:02 <sbp> .pc ƢƏƔ
02:15:04 <phenny> 01A2: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OI (Ƣ)
02:15:07 <phenny> 018F: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SCHWA (Ə)
02:15:11 <phenny> 0194: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GAMMA (Ɣ)
02:15:31 <sbp> .pc ƆƜ
02:15:34 <phenny> 0186: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN O (Ɔ)
02:15:37 <phenny> 019C: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER TURNED M (Ɯ)
02:15:42 <sbp> I can type these. with some difficulty
02:16:00 <sbp> e.g. Ƣ is Alt+: Q
02:16:19 <sbp> which is actually Alt+Shift+; and Shift+Q
02:16:45 <thelsdj> §
02:16:55 <sbp> heh. I can type that without any modifier
02:17:01 <sbp> it's a freaking key on a MacBook
02:17:04 <thelsdj> ¶
02:17:09 <sbp> the most stupid key in the history of keyboards
02:17:15 <thelsdj> i set right alt as my compose key
02:17:21 <sbp> compose?
02:17:31 <thelsdj> http://www.hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html
02:17:34 <sbp> I have a picnic bench instead of a right alt
02:17:41 <sbp> ah
02:17:42 <thelsdj> Ð
02:17:48 <sbp> Ð
02:17:51 <sbp> Alt+D for me
02:17:55 <thelsdj> đ
02:18:06 <sbp> hmm. not sure I can do that one
02:18:14 <JibberJim> .cp 8482
02:18:16 <phenny> Sorry, no results found for '8482'.
02:18:23 <JibberJim> how do I do the other way?
02:18:29 <sbp> nope, can't do that one
02:18:32 <sbp> other way?
02:18:36 <sbp> what are you trying to do?
02:18:37 <thelsdj> Ø
02:18:38 <sbp> is that decimal?
02:18:44 <JibberJim> yeah
02:18:49 <sbp> it only accepts hex
02:18:53 <sbp> .calc 8482 in hex
02:18:56 <phenny> 8 482 = 0x2122
02:18:56 <thelsdj> ÷
02:18:59 <sbp> .cp ^2122
02:19:01 <phenny> 2122: TRADE MARK SIGN (™)
02:19:38 <sbp> hmm. I thought I had Oslash but apparently not. British layout, perhaps
02:19:51 <sbp> Ø
02:19:56 <sbp> ah yeah, Alt+O in British
02:20:04 <thelsdj> ‰
02:20:07 <sbp> which is Ô in Welsh
02:20:26 <sbp>  ̰‰
02:20:30 <sbp> Alt+R
02:20:33 <sbp> ‰
02:20:35 <sbp> ‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰‰
02:21:24 <sbp> so you do Alt+%o for that?
02:21:35 <sbp> rather, Alt % o
02:21:45 <sbp> rather, right-Alt % o
02:21:51 <thelsdj> alt+%, o
02:21:54 <sbp> ah
02:22:08 <thelsdj> oh wait no
02:22:17 <thelsdj> guess it is right alt, %, o
02:22:20 <sbp> heh
02:23:16 <thelsdj> ¹
02:23:42 <sbp> ṕ₩₦₫
02:23:46 <thelsdj> ₫
02:24:43 <thelsdj> .pc  
02:24:45 <phenny> 2008: PUNCTUATION SPACE ( )
02:24:59 <sbp> what's a punctuation space for?
02:25:14 <sbp> "A punctuation space is the width of a period or comma."
02:25:23 <sbp> - http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=427855&seqNum=20
02:31:14 <thelsdj> ¡SHITRUDE!
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02:35:18 <sbp> ¡caramba!
02:39:25 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted "shitrude" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48433
02:39:51 <sbp> which has a linked text version
02:39:56 <sbp> (and XML)
02:40:08 <sbp> you never know, we might get to 10 in a couple of days
02:40:32 <thelsdj> …
02:40:41 <sbp> .bytes …
02:40:44 <phenny> '\xc2\x85'
02:40:56 <thelsdj> was what i got pasting from the xml, weird
02:41:05 <thelsdj> .bytes …
02:41:07 <phenny> '\xe2\x80\xa6'
02:41:07 <sbp> .pc 
02:41:25 <sbp> .eval unicode('\xc2\x85', 'utf-8')
02:41:27 <phenny> u'\x85'
02:41:33 <sbp> .cp ^0085
02:41:35 <phenny> 0085: <control> - NEXT LINE (NEL) (…)
02:41:57 <sbp> heh, that represents weirdly for me
02:42:03 <sbp> in X-Chat Aqua it makes a new line, but!
02:42:09 <sbp> it doesn't make a new user line
02:42:13 <sbp> which is... very strange
02:42:27 <sbp> so basically it looks like the user has added enough spaces to make the line wrap
02:42:44 <sbp> except that when I change the width of the screen, it doesn't affect the wrapping
02:42:49 <sbp> so it's definitely not just spaces-padding
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02:46:32 <thelsdj> bluehavana: hello
02:46:48 <bluehavana> hello?
02:46:54 <sbp> hi bluehavana. asl?
02:46:57 <thelsdj> LOL
02:47:00 <thelsdj> "hello?"
02:47:09 <thelsdj> bluehavana: pix plz
02:47:19 <bluehavana> ha
02:47:21 <sbp> asl bluehavana
02:47:31 <thelsdj> OMG
02:47:35 <thelsdj> "ha ha ha"
02:47:40 <sbp> löl
02:47:51 <sbp> asl?
02:47:53 <sbp> plz?
02:48:07 <sbp> bluehavana?
02:48:08 <sbp> plz?
02:48:21 <bluehavana> why?
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02:48:29 <sbp> becoz. lol!!
02:48:32 <kpreid> > (nub . words) "ha ha ha"
02:48:38 <thelsdj> ŁØŁ
02:48:38 <sbp> asl kpreid
02:48:44 <swhask> ["ha"]
02:48:54 <laplink> Ah, new MSN worm making the rounds it seems.
02:49:00 <sbp> LOL
02:49:03 <sbp> "MSN worm"
02:49:34 <sbp> so what can we do for you, bluehavana?
02:49:38 <thelsdj> ṀŜŅ
02:49:47 <sbp> ɯſŋ
02:50:07 <sbp> .pc Ŝ
02:50:07 <phenny> 015C: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH CIRCUMFLEX (Ŝ)
02:50:08 <thelsdj> they want to sell us cigars
02:50:17 <kpreid> > nub "so what can we do for you,"
02:50:21 <swhask> "so whatcnedfryu,"
02:50:22 <sbp> *cerulean* cigars?
02:50:35 <bluehavana> just stopping by to see what is going on
02:50:39 <kpreid> > nub "bluehavana"
02:50:42 <swhask> "bluehavn"
02:50:44 <sbp> mainly circumflexen
02:50:52 <sbp> also wondering your asl. lolLL!
02:50:53 <kpreid> > nub "circumflexen"
02:50:56 <swhask> "cirumflexn"
02:50:56 <thelsdj> > nub "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"
02:50:59 <swhask> "the quickbrownfxjmpdvlazyg"
02:51:11 <thelsdj> > length (nub "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog")
02:51:13 <swhask> 26
02:51:23 <kpreid> > nub "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"
02:51:26 <swhask> "the quickbrownfxjmpsvlazydg"
02:51:33 <thelsdj> right
02:51:52 <thelsdj> LOL
02:51:54 <thelsdj> "going on"
02:51:58 <kpreid> you'd think e'd have *finished* jumping long since, but no
02:52:30 <laplink> The fox? How about that damn lazy cow, still lazing about?
02:53:01 <sbp> > nub "abcdefghijklmnopqqrrssstttttuuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
02:53:01 <swhask> Improperly terminated string
02:53:03 <sbp> arse
02:53:05 <sbp> > nub "abcdefghijklmnopqqrrssstttttuuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
02:53:08 <swhask> "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
02:53:25 <thelsdj> bluehavana: you in Tokyo?
02:53:43 <sbp> nub is tremendous
02:53:47 <bluehavana> sure
02:54:06 <sbp> "if you want me to be"
02:54:22 <kpreid> > group "abcdefghijklmnopqqrrssstttttuuuuuuvvvvvvvvvvwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
02:54:23 <thelsdj> 私はアダムです。
02:54:23 <sbp> hmm. I wonder if I can make a python one-liner of nub
02:54:26 <swhask> ["a","b","c","d","e","f","g","h","i","j","k","l","m","n","o","p","qq","rr","...
02:54:58 <thelsdj> > group "abcdeef"
02:55:01 <swhask> ["a","b","c","d","ee","f"]
02:56:10 <thelsdj> bluehavana: so what are you up to?
02:56:49 <bluehavana> writing an english paper
02:57:00 <thelsdj> boooooooring
02:57:08 <thelsdj> whats the paper about?
02:57:59 <thelsdj> sbp: did you watch that tate & tennant video?
02:59:09 <bluehavana> Its an argument analysis of an essay Milan Kundera wrote comparing the French faux pas of vulgarity and the Czech faux pas of kitsch
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02:59:56 <thelsdj> .wik Milan Kundera
02:59:57 <phenny> "Milan Kundera (IPA: ['mɪlan 'kundɛra]) (born April 1, 1929 in Brno, Czechoslovakia, now the Czech Republic) is a Czech-born writer who has written books in both Czech and French." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Kundera
03:00:12 <sbp> nope
03:00:30 * sbp is failing to make a one-liner of this
03:00:43 <sbp> I feel close though...
03:00:48 <bluehavana> you can't regexp it?
03:01:32 <kpreid> it's not specific to strings!
03:01:38 <sbp> no
03:02:15 <sbp> well... you might be able to if you could use captured groups in character classes or something crazy like that. I don't think pcre allows that though!
03:02:27 <sbp> actually, I guess you'd just OR them. hmm
03:02:39 <bluehavana> sorry, I use Perl, so don't know
03:02:52 <sbp> ...was that a joke? :-)
03:02:58 <pierpa> PC = Perl Compatible
03:03:40 <pierpa> .weather lirf
03:03:42 <phenny> Clear ☼, 22℃, 1023mb, Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - LIRF 16:50, 1450Z
03:03:45 <kpreid> !type nub
03:03:51 <swhask> forall a. (Eq a) => [a] -> [a]
03:03:53 <kpreid> nub is not about strings, but any list.
03:05:19 <sbp> so it'd be something like (?P<a>.).*(?P<b>(?!(?P=a)).).*(?P<c>(?!(?P=a))(?!(?P=b)).) etc.
03:05:23 <sbp> which is fucking bonkers
03:05:26 <thelsdj> > nubBy (>) "acdabcdef"
03:05:31 <sbp> remind me to show bjoern_ that
03:05:34 <swhask> "acddef"
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03:06:09 <thelsdj> > nubBy (<) "cdabcdef"
03:06:14 <swhask> "ca"
03:08:11 <sbp> ooh! close!
03:08:15 <sbp> I managed to get the inverse
03:08:28 <thelsdj> only duplicates?
03:10:01 <sbp> yeah
03:13:07 <sbp> ooh, think I've done it
03:13:37 <sbp> yep!
03:13:39 <sbp> .eval (lambda d={}: ''.join(((not d.has_key(c)) and d.setdefault(c, c)) or '' for c in "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"))()
03:13:39 <phenny> 'the quickbrownfxjmpdvlazyg'
03:14:51 <thelsdj> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;77451406;6134080;d?http://shitrude.com/
03:15:17 <thelsdj> i wonder what that does
03:15:23 <thelsdj> if doubleclick logs it or something
03:15:40 <sbp> heh, yeah. where'd you get it from?
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03:16:01 <thelsdj> a 419 email
03:16:05 <sbp> hmm
03:16:19 <sbp> .origin bluehavana
03:17:10 <phenny> First saw bluehavana on #swhack at 2007-09-29 02:46:48, saying 'hello?' (see http://swhack.com/logs/2007-09-29#T02-46-48)
03:17:22 <sbp> LOL
03:17:24 <sbp> "hello?"
03:17:55 <sbp> given the channels that they were on, I thought they were bound to be skriptkiddieing
03:18:08 <sbp> "#tcpip #houseofhack #remote-exploit"
03:18:10 <sbp> I mean, come on
03:18:33 <thelsdj> well, Perl, what more do you need to know
03:18:36 <sbp> hehe
03:18:49 <sbp> you don't even need to know the perl compatibles
03:18:58 <sbp> maybe. it's unclear what they meant exactly...
03:19:13 <sbp> mind distracted by Milan Kundera perhaps
03:19:29 <thelsdj> yea
03:20:07 <sbp> kpreid: I think mine works for any list too, by the way
03:20:16 <sbp> as long as the elements are hashable, of course
03:20:41 <sbp> oh, it'd need a str(...) in there if you wanted to make a string representation of it
03:20:43 <kpreid> that was in response to the regexp suggestion
03:20:48 <sbp> yeah, I know
03:20:59 <sbp> just wanted to show off my fullspec'edness
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03:22:57 <sbp> before bjoern_ pisses all over that
03:23:04 <kpreid> > concatMap (\x -> [x] ++ replicate x ' ') [' '..]
03:23:08 <swhask> Couldn't match `Int' against `Char'
03:23:34 <kpreid> > concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord ' ')] ++ replicate x ' ') [0..]
03:23:41 <swhask> " ! \" #  $  %   &   '    (    )     *     +    ...
03:24:14 <kpreid> > take 8 (nub (concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord ' ')] ++ replicate x ' ') [0..])
03:24:15 <swhask> Parse error
03:24:19 <kpreid> > take 8 (nub (concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord ' ')] ++ replicate x ' ') [0..]))
03:24:24 <swhask> " !\"#$%&'"
03:24:37 <kpreid> hrm, still not a good example of what I'm vaguely thinking of
03:24:40 <sbp> > nub (concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord ' ')] ++ replicate x ' ') [0..])
03:24:56 <thelsdj> sbp: i think that will run forever
03:24:56 <swhask> " !\"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\\]^_`abcdefgh...
03:24:58 <sbp> DO IT YOU SHITFUCKER
03:25:00 <sbp> ah, there we go
03:25:04 <thelsdj> hehe
03:25:51 <thelsdj> > nub (concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord 'z')] ++ replicate x 'z') [0..])
03:26:06 <swhask> "z{|}~\DEL\128\129\130\131\132\133\134\135\136\137\138\139\140\141\142\143\1...
03:26:19 <sbp> nice. I like very much
03:26:44 <sbp> > nub (concatMap (\x -> [chr (x + ord '\xff')] ++ replicate x '\xff') [0..])
03:27:00 <swhask> "\255\256\257\258\259\260\261\262\263\264\265\266\267\268\269\270\271\272\27...
03:27:30 <kpreid> less silly is to skip the replicate and nub steps...
03:27:33 <sbp> hmm
03:27:38 <kpreid> > ['\xff'..]
03:27:46 <swhask> "\255\256\257\258\259\260\261\262\263\264\265\266\267\268\269\270\271\272\27...
03:27:51 <sbp> I would have done if I knew what I was doing
03:28:12 <sbp> > ['\1125'..]
03:28:17 <swhask> "\1125\1126\1127\1128\1129\1130\1131\1132\1133\1134\1135\1136\1137\1138\1139...
03:28:22 <sbp> er
03:28:26 <sbp> I meant 377, but nevermind
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03:28:35 <sbp> it's codepoints not bytes then?
03:28:45 <kpreid> aye
03:28:52 <kpreid> encoding support lags specification though :)
03:28:55 <sbp> > ['\177777'..]
03:28:56 <swhask> Character constant out of range
03:29:04 <sbp> > ['\177757'..]
03:29:05 <swhask> Character constant out of range
03:29:05 <kpreid> > "•"
03:29:06 <swhask> lexical error in string/character literal
03:29:25 <sbp> > ['\177057'..]
03:29:25 <swhask> Character constant out of range
03:29:29 <sbp> > ['\17705'..]
03:29:35 <swhask> "\17705\17706\17707\17708\17709\17710\17711\17712\17713\17714\17715\17716\17...
03:29:50 <sbp> ...
03:29:55 <sbp> wait, this must be hex
03:30:02 <sbp> or...
03:30:05 <sbp> .pc ~
03:30:15 <phenny> 007E: TILDE (~)
03:30:19 <kpreid> > maxBound :: Char
03:30:24 <swhask> '\1114111'
03:30:34 <sbp> ô thx
03:30:45 <kpreid> > showHex (ord maxBound)
03:30:52 <swhask> <[Char] -> [Char]>
03:30:55 <kpreid> er?
03:31:02 <kpreid> oh
03:31:06 <kpreid> > showHex (ord maxBound) ""
03:31:12 <swhask> "10ffff"
03:31:13 <sbp> > showHex (ord (maxBound :: Char))
03:31:21 <swhask> <[Char] -> [Char]>
03:31:26 <sbp> .calc 0o1114111 in hex
03:31:28 <phenny> 0o1114111 = 0x49849
03:31:51 <kpreid> .calc 1111111 in hex
03:31:52 <phenny> 1 111 111 = 0x10F447
03:32:06 <sbp> oh, it's decimal
03:32:20 <sbp> ish
03:32:33 <sbp> no wait, you took the 4 out
03:32:43 <sbp> you sneaky 4 -> 1 transmogrifying unit of perplexity
03:33:05 <kpreid> perplexcity?
03:33:07 <thelsdj> .calc 1114111 in hex
03:33:09 <phenny> 1 114 111 = 0x10FFFF
03:33:14 <sbp> I had to stop myself from typing that, yeah...
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03:34:09 <thelsdj> .calc 1114111 in base 18
03:34:11 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, no result.
03:34:40 <thelsdj> .calc 1114111 in binary
03:34:42 <phenny> 1 114 111 = 0b100001111111111111111
03:34:44 <sbp> .calc 91279127 in sexagesimal
03:34:47 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
03:35:02 <sbp> .calc 91279127 in duodesimal
03:35:05 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
03:35:05 <sbp> .calc 91279127 in duodecimal
03:35:08 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
03:35:19 <sbp> w'-f'-ever
03:35:55 <sbp> having said that, .calc is the best calculator I know of
03:36:11 <sbp> I really want them to make a standalone version
03:36:21 <sbp> but of course, that'd arse their revenue stream
03:37:33 <sbp> I still think the UN should buy Google and run it as a charity
03:37:50 <sbp> UNGoogle
03:38:35 <sbp> trouble is, then it'd blow from lack of caring about competition
03:38:35 <crschmidt> The UN couldn't afford it.
03:38:42 <thelsdj> or hollywood could buy it and would be Jewgle
03:38:47 <sbp> they could just sell off a few of their members
03:38:52 <sbp> they don't need *all* of them, do they?
03:39:02 <thelsdj> .title http://www.thefriedmans.net/jewgle/
03:39:05 <phenny> thelsdj: Jewgle: Stop searching and call your mother.
03:41:12 <sbp> heh. it just quotes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillel_the_Elder
03:46:49 <sbp> hmm, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity article needs some work
03:53:03 <thelsdj> .title http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/30/geek-exercise-challe.html
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03:53:18 <phenny> thelsdj: Geek exercise challenge: Walk to Rivendell - Boing Boing
03:54:19 <sbp> bloody hell, big distances
03:55:14 <sbp> 397 miles? I didn't think it sounded that far
03:55:28 <sbp> I suppose they had lots of stops and Bill the Pony
03:55:33 <sbp> but good grief
03:56:19 <sbp> the source says "458 MILES from Hobbiton to Rivendell!"
03:56:49 <sbp> ah, no, 397 for Bag End
03:56:50 <sbp> http://home.insightbb.com/~eowynchallenge/Walk/walk.html
03:57:11 <sbp> not so bad: "138 miles: Follow Aragorn from Minas Tirith to the Morannon."
03:58:00 <sbp> hehe: 'Just because Frodo walked 18 miles the first night, doesn't mean you have to! Hobbits, as we all know, are made of tougher stuff than men (and even women!). '
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03:58:53 <sbp> daroobin
04:22:21 <sbp> [[[
04:22:22 <sbp> Organisers said there have been 1,000 million page impressions on the site Ahmettribute.com, with one million people registering to be in with a chance of getting one of the 20,000 tickets for the gig, to be held at the London O2 Arena on November 26.
04:22:22 <sbp> At one point, it was receiving 5 million hits per hour, a total of 80,000 hits per minute.
04:22:28 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.nme.com/news/led-zeppelin/31227
04:23:37 <sbp> kinda nuts. if there are that many people clamouring for tickets, you'd think they'd tour
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05:01:30 <sbp> "You're much too titty to be a preacher." - spoonerism from The Two Ronnies
05:03:34 <sbp> "I fancy a nibble of something. Could you send me up a waitress, please?"
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05:41:41 <sbp> "If flies are becoming a problem in your kitchen, the Ministry of Agriculture has an answer. Put manure in your living room."
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06:30:30 <Monty> yo rob1n!
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07:06:47 <Monty> lo Arnia
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07:14:11 <Monty> hi leobard
07:18:27 <leobard> ho
07:39:52 <deltab> "Stephen Fry: 50 Not Out" repeated on BBC2 now
08:02:55 <sbp> watching Michael Palin
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08:16:24 <sbp> .gc "wealth and car-parks"
08:16:28 <phenny> "wealth and car-parks": 0
08:26:00 <Jabberwock> sinner.
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08:46:51 <Jabberwock> what's up with the topic?
08:52:30 <xover> If you have to ask...
08:52:54 <procto> deltab: ohh, I should download that!
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08:53:09 <procto> Catching up on QI right now
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09:09:52 <Jabberwock> xover: I do
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09:36:16 <Monty> hi schepers
09:46:20 * Arnia considers rape and pillage of Old Shire Hall
10:00:02 <laplink> .calc 1625 in kilometers
10:00:05 <phenny> laplink: Sorry, no result.
10:00:11 <laplink> .calc 1625 miles in kilometers
10:00:13 <phenny> 1 625 miles = 2 615.184 kilometers
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10:02:02 <Monty> hi Talliesin
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10:15:17 <cre8radix|off> http://bp2.blogger.com/_ELzM_S573r8/Rla_MY15P9I/AAAAAAAABlU/GRW5Wy6R1P8/s1600/military-base.jpg
10:15:19 <cre8radix|off> gn
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10:18:58 <Monty> bah, it's rob1n again
10:20:57 <kpreid> Arnia: you might find this amusing...
10:21:26 <Arnia> Hope I will. Need cheering up (the university has failed to pay my stipend)
10:22:12 <kpreid> I'm sketching out a Hindley-Milner (+ type classes) extension for Common Lisp
10:22:28 <kpreid> Dunno if I can defeat the semantic problems, but I have a plan :)
10:23:09 <thelsdj> .wik .fm
10:23:12 <phenny> ".fm is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for the Federated States of Micronesia, a group of islands located in the Pacific Ocean." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.fm
10:30:49 <Arnia> mmm
10:31:18 <Arnia> Why not just do dependent types *ducks*
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10:42:19 <kpreid> Because I don't understand 'em?
10:42:28 <kpreid> (nor have I tried)
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12:10:03 <bjoern_> Monty!
12:10:03 <Monty> : :
12:12:08 <thelsdj> .g "poetic image number 37 not found"
12:12:11 <phenny> thelsdj: http://cmy-clarion.livejournal.com/5490.html
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12:13:39 <bjoern_> Happy Mailman Day thelsdj
12:13:49 <crschmidt> happy mailman day
12:14:40 <thelsdj> i haven't got any yet
12:14:43 <thelsdj> .t utc
12:14:45 <phenny> 2007-10-01T00:39:19Z
12:15:17 <thelsdj> either that or they are all auto filtered
12:15:32 <crschmidt> I haven't yet either.
12:15:51 <bjoern_> I get most of them around 6am-8am my time (utc+2)
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12:21:50 <thelsdj> wow thats annoying, you can't copy/paste in 'links' it appears
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12:41:51 <KragenSitaker> thelsdj: use shift-click
12:46:37 <thelsdj> ah there we go, thanks
12:47:03 <KragenSitaker> sure, it's an old trn trick iirc
12:47:31 <KragenSitaker> it still doesn't work as well as one would like; links fills the screen with spaces that get copied for some reason
12:55:29 <JibberJim> .gc "October 1st", "1st of October"
12:55:32 <phenny> "October 1st", "1st of October": 11,600
12:55:42 <JibberJim> .compare "October 1st" "1st of October"
12:55:45 <phenny> "October 1st" (2,120,000), "1st of October" (349,000)
12:56:08 <JibberJim> .compare "October 1st" "1st October"
12:56:10 <phenny> "October 1st" (2,250,000), "1st October" (1,870,000)
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12:59:07 <Monty> lo perigrin
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13:01:35 <perigrin> lo Monty
13:01:37 <Monty> earwax is deceased and plump!
13:01:54 <perigrin> Monty, it is yes!
13:01:56 <Monty> federasdhjkl... nor why Pixelmator is papist
13:02:35 <perigrin> pixelmator cannot be King of England then Monty
13:02:36 <Monty> stocks organisers >:)
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13:21:12 <thelsdj> [[[
13:21:14 <thelsdj> Fortunately, Blount continued talking on his own. "I'm not like some of the people here. I've never been 
13:21:17 <thelsdj>  senile. By rights, I shouldn't be here."                                 
13:21:21 <thelsdj>                                                       
13:21:24 <thelsdj>  "By rights?" Maybe he could score points just by imitating an old-time shrink program.
13:21:28 <thelsdj> ]]] - Rainbow's End by Vernor Vinge
13:29:09 <kpreid> hey, watch those apostrophes
13:30:11 <thelsdj> you're right, i had it correct earlier
13:44:39 <thelsdj> .gc speilbergrowling
13:44:42 <phenny> speilbergrowling: 1
13:44:49 <thelsdj> .g speilbergrowling
13:44:51 <phenny> thelsdj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End
13:56:03 <thelsdj> .gc "whatchama-google"
13:56:06 <phenny> "whatchama-google": 1
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14:43:42 <kpreid> http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20070927
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15:05:01 <thelsdj> thats pretty good
15:05:16 <thelsdj> i have a new tshirt that says "i'm away from my computer"
15:15:13 <bjoern_> "The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of frustration and anger, plus the envy and admiration of all your friends." - http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/09/to-all-iphone-customers.html
15:16:17 <bjoern_> "fuck you, el jobso. I spent friggin $1200 to get the iphone workng in India. teri maan ki aankh, as we say in Hindi."
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15:42:15 <KragenSitaker> .ety valedictorian
15:42:17 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "valedictorian". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=valedictorian
15:44:10 <jetscreamer> it's not vala i take it
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16:41:04 <bjoern_> Given a natural number n, how do I find the next multiple of another number d? I could do, if n % d != 0, then it's n + ( d - (n % d) ), and n otherwise, but that's a bit longer than I'd hope. d is a power of 2, btw.
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16:45:56 <bjoern_> Hmm in Perl I can use: n + (-n % d)
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17:38:01 <deltab> (n + d) & (d - 1)
17:38:10 <deltab> er
17:38:13 <deltab> (n + d) &~ (d - 1)
17:39:42 <bjoern_> But doesn't that give, e.g. with n = 64, d = 4, 68?
17:41:57 <deltab> isn't that the next multiple of 4?
17:42:18 <bjoern_> Well by next I meant >=, not >.
17:44:12 <deltab> so n + (-n % d) then
17:44:52 <bjoern_> Yeah but that only does in Perl, it doesn't work in, say, C...
17:45:05 <deltab> oh, C
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17:51:23 <bjoern_> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29451
17:51:26 <phenny> bjoern_: Aliens Demand More Positive Portrayal In The Media | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
17:52:08 <perigrin> They had 20 years of positive portrayal ... they need to quit whining.
17:52:29 <perigrin> ET, Batteries not Included, Starman ...
17:52:48 <perigrin> Mars Attacks!
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19:06:42 <sbp> YO
19:06:48 <JibberJim> YO
19:07:14 <laplink> OY
19:10:59 <sbp> hmm, lots going on this morning
19:11:03 <sbp> 1st October and all that
19:11:05 <sbp> .tock
19:11:08 <phenny> "Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:35:57 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
19:11:23 <sbp> .t Z
19:11:26 <phenny> 2007-10-01T07:36:14Z
19:18:50 <sbp> so I've been working on this comic site with a cartoonist who used to be in two national newspapers for nigh on twenty years over here
19:19:05 <sbp> there's only one strip up at the moment, but...
19:19:07 <sbp> http://bogartthecat.co.uk/
19:19:45 <sbp> I'm rather pleased with the design. alt texts are full transcriptions of the strips and so on
19:20:04 <sbp> must remember to put a shim in because manxome's clock is borken
19:21:12 * bjoern_ won't complain about the ascenders in the domain name or the missing doctype
19:21:24 <sbp> yeah. I didn't choose the domain name
19:21:33 <sbp> I don't like the two t's, personally
19:21:55 * sbp has made his position clear on doctypes elsewhere...
19:22:14 <bjoern_> .gc "DTD 2.0"
19:22:16 <phenny> "DTD 2.0": 14,700
19:22:24 <bjoern_> they are working on it, apparently...
19:22:28 <sbp> yay
19:22:39 <sbp> for HTML 5, I heard they're thinking about <!DOCTYPE html>
19:22:40 <sbp> just that
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19:22:46 <sbp> which is... fun
19:23:22 <tav> i thought that was pretty much decided ?
19:23:55 <sbp> not the last I heard, which was about a month ago
19:23:56 <bjoern_> So many things you can tell from the URL and title alone,
19:23:57 <bjoern_> .title http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/developer/
19:24:00 <phenny> bjoern_: Developer Documentation for Apache 2.0 - Apache HTTP Server
19:24:01 <sbp> things move quickly though, I suppose
19:24:04 <bjoern_> and it gets worse from there on...
19:24:06 <sbp> ahahaha
19:24:54 <bjoern_> Swhack should assimilate niq.
19:26:49 <laplink> niq has been… quite coy.
19:26:50 <sbp> I agree
19:28:09 * bjoern_ met niq, but neither of you two...
19:29:40 <sbp> I've met niq too
19:29:45 <laplink> IRCily, I mean.
19:30:08 <laplink> .gc IRCily
19:30:10 <phenny> IRCily: 19
19:30:34 <sbp> .compare ircly in-the-manner-of-irc
19:30:37 <phenny> ircly (1,020), in-the-manner-of-irc (1)
19:30:45 <sbp> .g in-the-manner-of-irc
19:30:48 <phenny> sbp: http://www.springerlink.com/index/H1K1366401144134.pdf
19:31:22 <bjoern_> "Warning - This is a cut 'n paste job from an email (<022501c1c529$f63a9550$7f00000a@KOJ>) and only reformatted for better readability. It's not up to date but may be a good start for further research." - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/developer/filters.html
19:31:39 <sbp> bwahaha
19:31:48 <sbp> and not even a proper mid
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19:32:47 <sbp> hey leobard
19:33:16 <sbp> damn. I emailed AaronSw this morning and forgot to tell him about the server clock
19:33:17 * laplink clicks on rick…
19:33:23 <sbp> heh, heh
19:33:30 <sbp> I had great troubles with that
19:33:41 <laplink> (nothing happens)
19:33:59 <sbp> no?
19:34:06 <laplink> no.
19:34:16 <sbp> your client does not support image maps?
19:34:22 <leobard> hi all
19:35:02 <sbp> I decided eventually that it's good content, and couldn't really drop it
19:35:14 <sbp> I've been trying to think of a way to make it more usable...
19:35:30 <laplink> Make the whole damn image a link?
19:35:42 <sbp> well yeah...
19:35:46 * sbp goes and does that
19:35:48 <laplink> I mean, an image map?!?!
19:35:56 <sbp> well it should work
19:36:13 <bjoern_> famous last words day on swhack?
19:36:19 <laplink> heh heh
19:36:38 *** laplink changed the topic to: "famous last words day on swhack?"
19:37:10 <bjoern_> Speaking of which, Happy Mailman Day, Happy World Hepatitis Awareness Day, Happy World Vegetarian Day.
19:37:12 <sbp> alright, fixed
19:37:18 <sbp> no way is it all those things
19:38:40 <bjoern_> It's also Children's day, Teacher's day, Independence day - in some places -, and National Day of the People's Republic of China of course.
19:38:45 <laplink> .gc "Happy Hepatitis"
19:38:47 <phenny> "Happy Hepatitis": 79
19:38:57 <perigrin> sbp, only if your Vegetarian Mailman gives you Hepatitis.
19:39:01 <laplink> Two words you don't often see together in a sentence…
19:39:31 <laplink> Now, see, /that's/ a topic for the next Bog strip! :-)
19:40:51 <sbp> wouldn't surprise me if it came up
19:41:44 <laplink> .gc "Peter Plant" Pervert
19:41:46 <phenny> "Peter Plant" Pervert: 7
19:42:02 <bjoern_> Today:
19:42:04 <sbp> it was a bit on-the-edge for a strip in a family newspaper with readership in the millions. one of the first ones has "sh*t" in it somewhere, I think
19:42:05 <bjoern_> 959 - Edgar the Peaceable becomes king of all England.
19:42:05 <bjoern_> 1814 - Opening of the Congress of Vienna, intended to redraw the Europe's political map after the defeat of Napoleon the previous spring.
19:42:05 <bjoern_> 1869 - Austria issues the world's first postcards.
19:42:05 <bjoern_> 1880 - First electric lamp factory opened by Thomas Edison.
19:42:05 <bjoern_> 1926 - An oil field accident cost aviator Wiley Post his left eye, but he used the settlement money to buy his first aircraft.
19:42:08 <bjoern_> 1938 - Germany annexes the Sudetenland.
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19:42:11 <bjoern_> 1946 - Nazi leaders sentenced at Nuremberg Trials.
19:42:12 <bjoern_> 1949 - The People's Republic of China is declared by Mao Zedong.
19:42:14 <bjoern_> 1957 - First appearance of "In God We Trust" on U.S. paper currency.
19:42:16 <bjoern_> 1958 - NASA created to replace NACA.
19:42:38 <sbp> did NASCAR replace NACCAR?
19:43:05 <bjoern_> 1971 - Walt Disney World opens near Orlando, Florida, United States.
19:43:05 <bjoern_> 1982 - Helmut Kohl replaces Helmut Schmidt as Chancellor of Germany through a Constructive Vote of No Confidence.
19:43:05 <bjoern_> 1982 - Sony launches the first consumer compact disc player (model CDP-101).
19:43:05 <bjoern_> 2006 - Age discrimination in employment is made illegal in the United Kingdom.
19:43:05 <bjoern_> 2007 - Smoking age raised from 16 to 18 in United Kingdom.
19:43:17 <sbp> 16 to 18? oh yeah!
19:43:22 <sbp> I remember. excellent
19:43:22 <bjoern_> .wik NACCAR
19:43:25 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "NACCAR".
19:43:36 <sbp> the funny thing about that is that it means people who are 17 used to be able to smoke and now can't
19:43:46 <sbp> a similar thing actually happened to a friend of mine
19:44:05 <sbp> he turned 16 and was allowed to buy fireworks (it was around bonfire night time, too, iirc, so it was relevant)
19:44:12 <sbp> but then the next day, a law came in raising it to 18
19:44:18 <sbp> so he was allowed to buy fireworks for one day
19:44:18 <bjoern_> pwnd
19:44:21 <sbp> hehe
19:44:35 <sbp> he did know about it though, so I guess he stockpiled
19:45:53 <bjoern_> .wik Wiley Post
19:45:56 <phenny> "Wiley Hardeman Post (November 22, 1898 – August 15, 1935) was the first pilot to fly solo around the world." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiley_Post
19:46:03 <bjoern_> Oh I missed
19:46:04 <bjoern_> 1920 - Sir Percy Cox landed in Basra to assume his responsibilities as high commissioner in Iraq.
19:46:09 <bjoern_> .wik Sir Percy Cox
19:46:12 <phenny> "Sir Percy Zachariah Cox, GCMG, GCIE, KCSI (b. 20 November 1864, Herongate, Essex, England - d. 20 February 1937, Melchbourne, Bedfordshire, England) was a British administrator and diplomat in the British Mandate of Iraq." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Zachariah_Cox
19:47:28 <bjoern_> .wik Hinterland
19:47:31 <phenny> "The hinterland is the land or district behind the borders of a coast or river." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterland
19:47:51 <bjoern_> "The word has been borrowed from German" - we really should collect interest on our words.
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20:03:50 <sbp> ooh, feedback from Sonja Elen Kisa
20:03:57 <sbp> I... I think I got feedback from her before
20:04:03 <sbp> but I was too scared to answer. heh
20:04:06 <sbp> went for the gusto this time
20:04:47 <laplink> .gc "Sonja Elen Kisa"
20:04:49 <phenny> "Sonja Elen Kisa": 15,100
20:04:57 <laplink> Never `eard of `er.
20:05:23 <laplink> .title www.cantonese.ca
20:05:25 <phenny> Can't connect to www.cantonese.ca
20:05:41 <laplink> Huh?
20:06:02 <laplink> .title http://www.cantonese.ca/
20:06:05 <phenny> laplink: Learn Cantonese! 學廣東話!
20:06:06 <sbp> really? she invented Toki Pona
20:06:07 <laplink> ah.
20:06:17 <laplink> .gc "Toki Pona"
20:06:20 <phenny> "Toki Pona": 106,000
20:06:24 <laplink> Scary!
20:06:26 <sbp> .wik Toki Pona
20:06:38 <phenny> "Toki Pona is a constructed language first published online in mid-2001." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
20:07:02 <sbp> her page on Finland is awesome
20:07:04 <laplink> Ah. Linguist, I take it? Explains why I've never heard of her.
20:07:16 <sbp> http://www.kisa.ca/finnish-phrases.html
20:07:22 <sbp> yeah
20:07:25 <laplink> Perkele!
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20:08:00 <laplink> Paljonko maksaisi gramma heroiinia?
20:08:08 <laplink> .gc "Paljonko maksaisi gramma heroiinia"
20:08:10 <phenny> "Paljonko maksaisi gramma heroiinia": 66
20:08:13 <laplink> !
20:08:27 <laplink> No, moniko sinun sedistäsi on tehnyt itsemurhan tänä vuonna?
20:09:09 <laplink> heh heh. I think I might like this one! :-)
20:10:16 * laplink stares hatefully at the meeting reminder popup…
20:12:10 <sbp> told ya it was good
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20:20:04 <sbp> [[[
20:20:05 <sbp> # [](f != []= ?
20:20:05 <sbp> The lesbian is in the house.
20:20:05 <sbp> The boat became on the house.
20:20:05 <sbp> The lesbian came to make destruction.
20:20:05 <sbp> Stealing is making houses.
20:20:06 <sbp> etc.
20:20:11 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.kisa.ca/oou.html
20:21:46 <perigrin> my friend's first year of university in New Orleans happened to be the year they changed the drinking age from 18 to 21
20:22:06 <leobard> hey guys, do you know if R2D2 or D2RQ do support HTTP URIS and get?
20:22:32 <perigrin> leobard, R2D2 requires C3PO to translate the protocols.
20:22:37 <perigrin> C3PO being a protocol droid
20:23:36 <sbp> yeah
20:24:01 <sbp> .gc "Book of the Hunt of King Modus"
20:24:04 <phenny> "Book of the Hunt of King Modus": 9
20:24:12 <perigrin> .gc "Modus touch"
20:24:14 <phenny> "Modus touch": 74
20:24:21 <perigrin> .gc "the Modus touch"
20:24:23 <phenny> "the Modus touch": 2
20:24:35 <perigrin> .gc "the Modus touch" -ignatz
20:24:37 <phenny> "the Modus touch" -ignatz: 2
20:25:06 <bjoern_> A function f takes two sets and returns whether the intersection is non-empty. What should I call it?
20:25:23 <sbp> non-empty-intersection-p
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20:25:32 <leobard> http://aksw.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/Projects/R2D2
20:25:36 <bjoern_> well, "overlap" would be closer...
20:25:37 <sbp> intersectul?
20:25:46 <sbp> I'd prefer overlaps
20:25:52 <sbp> makes it more clear that a bool is returned
20:26:11 <perigrin> it would be great if you made it infix too ...
20:26:13 <perigrin> A overlaps B
20:26:16 <leobard> "ur implementation R2D2 maps an RDF query to a legacy relational database without having to replicate the data."
20:26:20 <sbp> he's using C
20:26:31 <perigrin> Ahh
20:26:38 <bjoern_> the sets are character classes, fwiw
20:26:55 <bjoern_> so, alxClassesOverlaps is not quite what I'd want...
20:26:56 <perigrin> does C overlap B or A?
20:27:01 <sbp> .gc intersectful
20:27:02 <Arnia> hasOverlap?
20:27:04 <phenny> intersectful: 0
20:27:06 <Arnia> has_overlap
20:27:11 <sbp> NO SMALLKTALKISMS
20:27:14 <sbp> BAD
20:27:21 <Arnia> hasARidiculouslyLongNameForARelativelySimpleFunction
20:27:23 <bjoern_> what's next, have_common_item ?
20:27:26 <perigrin> intersection_is_not_empty_set_fuckers
20:27:47 <perigrin> perhaps without the touretts inspired hungarian notation.
20:27:52 <sbp> suck_my_big_intersection_(or_not_depending_on_what_this_function_returns)
20:28:03 <bjoern_> The check for whether A is a subset of B is called alxAinB(...) I think...
20:28:11 <Arnia> hasARidiculouslyLongNameAndIsPotentiallyImpureAndSoIsNotReallyAFunctionEither
20:28:30 <sbp> has_anybody_seen_my_monad?
20:28:42 <bjoern_> LOL
20:28:43 <bjoern_> "has_anybody_seen_my_monad"
20:28:47 <sbp> hehe
20:29:31 <bjoern_> perhaps I should call it disjoint and negate the result
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20:29:52 <perigrin> not_disjoint
20:30:00 <sbp> joint
20:30:05 <perigrin> then not_not_disjoint will make perfect sense
20:30:12 <perigrin> spliff
20:30:15 <Arnia> Hey man! Let's make sets, not war!
20:30:27 <perigrin> and then you'll know which people get it
20:30:35 <bjoern_> .compare "war set" "set war"
20:30:38 <phenny> "war set" (184,000), "set war" (51,500)
20:30:48 <sbp> $ make sets
20:30:55 <perigrin> .compare "war set" "love set" "set love" "set war"
20:30:58 <bjoern_> .wik Joint
20:30:59 <phenny> "love set" (296,000), "war set" (195,000), "set love" (79,900), "set war" (51,500)
20:31:00 <phenny> "A joint is the location at which two or more bones make contact." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint
20:35:28 <Arnia> I WANT NUCLEAR PENNIES!
20:35:31 <Arnia> http://sigfpe.blogspot.com/2007/09/arboreal-isomorphisms-from-nuclear.html
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20:36:12 <bjoern_> takes some time to realize you didn't write NUCLEAR PENISSES
20:36:38 <perigrin> same here
20:36:40 <sbp> same here
20:37:25 <sbp> .gc semi-infinite
20:37:27 <phenny> semi-infinite: 1,450,000
20:37:38 <Arnia> Am I that bereft of morals that penises is all that you think I can think about?
20:37:45 <perigrin> .gc quasi-infinit
20:37:45 <phenny> quasi-infinit: 317
20:37:48 <perigrin> Arnia, no we are.
20:37:52 * Arnia gets distracted thinking of nuclear penises
20:37:52 <sbp> there is totally no such thing as semi-infinite
20:38:12 <Arnia> sbp: think of the positive integers I guess
20:38:14 * Arnia shrugs
20:38:20 <sbp> yeah, I was! :-)
20:38:20 <perigrin> sbp, 1,450,000 people disagree with you
20:38:23 <Arnia> It is an abuse of concepts
20:38:27 <sbp> .gc bush-rocks
20:38:30 <phenny> bush-rocks: 16,500
20:38:35 <sbp> hmm. heh
20:38:35 <Arnia> .gc blair-rocks
20:38:38 <phenny> blair-rocks: 1,530
20:38:47 <perigrin> .compare bush blair
20:38:55 <phenny> bush (257,000,000), blair (55,800,000)
20:39:02 <perigrin> .rate bush
20:39:04 <perigrin> .rate blair
20:39:08 <phenny> "bush": 25.39% (15,400 rocks; 63,700 rules; 201,000 sucks; 31,500 blows)
20:39:10 <phenny> "blair": 42.33% (1,450 rocks; 855 rules; 2,560 sucks; 580 blows)
20:39:26 <bjoern_> .rate Merkel
20:39:33 <phenny> "Merkel": 78.99% (27 rocks; 443 rules; 96 sucks; 29 blows)
20:39:35 <sbp> .rate Brown
20:39:35 <bjoern_> .rate the french guy
20:39:42 <phenny> "Brown": 78.56% (32,800 rocks; 27,600 rules; 13,900 sucks; 2,580 blows)
20:39:42 <phenny> "the french guy": 40.0% (1 rocks; 3 rules; 1 sucks; 5 blows)
20:39:51 <perigrin> phenny came very close to Bush's actual approval rating
20:39:54 <sbp> ooh, Brown is just behind Merkel
20:40:01 <sbp> heh
20:40:03 <bjoern_> .rate Schaeuble
20:40:09 <phenny> "Schaeuble": 0.0% (0 rocks; 0 rules; 1 sucks; 0 blows)
20:40:14 <bjoern_> he, too
20:40:15 <sbp> ZERO
20:40:21 <sbp> you lose Schaeuble
20:40:22 <sbp> yeah
20:40:32 <perigrin> .rate phenny
20:40:38 <phenny> "phenny": 75.0% (2 rocks; 4 rules; 2 sucks; 0 blows)
20:40:52 <sbp> not even Schäuble approves of Schäuble
20:41:07 <sbp> .g shitrude
20:41:10 <phenny> sbp: http://shitrude.com/
20:41:10 <sbp> .gc shitrude
20:41:13 <perigrin> phenny blows wonderful bubbles which rocks
20:41:13 <phenny> shitrude: 7
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20:41:48 <Arnia> HERFT
20:42:03 <perigrin> .gc herft
20:42:05 <phenny> herft: 31,800
20:42:12 <perigrin> upswing
20:42:20 <perigrin> .gc "herft newspapers"
20:42:23 <phenny> "herft newspapers": 1
20:42:25 <Arnia> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2480
20:42:32 * perigrin bets that 1 is swhack logs.
20:42:35 <sbp> .compare herft-to-the-left herft-to-the-right
20:42:36 <Arnia> Do they have a witness protection scheme
20:42:38 <phenny> herft-to-the-right (1), herft-to-the-left (1)
20:42:43 <sbp> .g "herft newspapers"
20:42:46 <phenny> sbp: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-09-14
20:42:49 <sbp> hehe
20:43:26 <Arnia> .gc swhack
20:43:29 <phenny> swhack: 52,900
20:44:43 <perigrin> Arnia, no but they are all instances of the Harrison Ford object .... mixed with the Amish Role.
20:45:44 <Arnia> KILL THE OO PROGRAMMER!
20:45:59 * Arnia impels himself at perigrin's impaling
20:47:07 * perigrin sends messages off before his destruction.
20:47:13 * bjoern_ wonders how bad a do { for { for { if { for { for { if { if } ... nesting would actually look
20:47:20 <bjoern_> there is just a single line at the end...
20:47:31 <sbp> oh! by the way
20:47:41 <sbp> I found that the Cambridge Paragraph Bible has been reprinted...
20:47:44 <sbp> ...by Penguin!
20:47:45 <sbp> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bible-Penguin-Classics-David-Norton/dp/0141441518/
20:47:47 <sbp> MEGACHEAP
20:47:49 <perigrin> Really?
20:47:51 <sbp> so I'm ordering it right now
20:47:55 <perigrin> Ooh nice
20:48:00 <sbp> along with The Trouble with Tom, by Paul Collins
20:48:17 <perigrin> hah
20:48:24 <perigrin> Buy this book with KJV New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha: Burgundy Hardcover Edition by David Norton today!
20:48:29 <Arnia> Sends a thrill through my monads
20:48:35 <perigrin> buy two copies of the same book! Only 62 USD!
20:48:53 <sbp> bwahaha
20:48:55 <Arnia> perigrin: new or old testament apocrypha?
20:49:10 <perigrin> I'm not sure ... old I think.
20:49:23 <perigrin> certainly doesn't generally contain the gospel of Thomas
20:49:31 <perigrin> I don't think.
20:49:32 <sbp> yes, Old
20:49:47 <sbp> see http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0141441518/ref=sib_rdr_toc/203-2737251-4711108?ie=UTF8&p=S009&j=0#reader-page (if that works for you)
20:51:13 <sbp> yay, purchased. at the low-low cost of £16.82
20:51:29 <perigrin> .calc 16.82 GBP in USD
20:51:31 <phenny> 16.82 British pounds = 34.13619 U.S. dollars
20:51:34 <perigrin> :)
20:51:49 <Arnia> .calc 1 GBP in USD
20:51:51 <phenny> 1 British pound = 2.0295 U.S. dollars
20:51:57 <sbp> I'm debating getting a copy of the NET Bible
20:52:03 <perigrin> though on Amazon.com it's 12.48 USD
20:52:07 <sbp> problem is, I don't know much about the organisation
20:52:11 <perigrin> .calc 12.48 USD in GBP
20:52:13 <phenny> 12.48 U.S. dollars = 6.14929786 British pounds
20:52:17 <sbp> other than that they're apparently quite committed scholars, which is a plus
20:52:26 <sbp> and they're non-profit, which is another plus
20:52:31 <perigrin> Is that the bible that will compile down to the CLR and run under Mono?
20:52:35 <sbp> heh, heh
20:53:12 <perigrin> Lessig's new "CODE IS GOSPEL"
20:54:11 <sbp> reminds me, I came across something in 2 Peter yesterday which made me go "wha?" in KJV, but was clear in most other versions
20:54:31 <sbp> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%203:15-16;&version=9;31;16;72;48;
20:55:08 <sbp> though the NET gloss says that the first sentence is unclear in the original
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20:58:32 <sbp> I keep thinking that there must be something out there which is like the NET only more-so
20:59:05 <sbp> but I searched quite a bit yesterday and couldn't find anything
20:59:22 <perigrin> I'm not sure there is outside of DIY with Strong's Concordance
20:59:23 <sbp> the signal:noise ratio is really bad, which is the main problem
20:59:46 <sbp> hmm. but even a good concordance doesn't really help as much as is required
20:59:55 <sbp> because that only works at the lowest syntactic level
21:00:14 <perigrin> right
21:00:16 <sbp> I'd like to know about idioms and the culture and some of the higher semantic stuff too, doctrinal interpretations over time and so on
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21:00:30 <perigrin> like Biblepedia
21:00:35 <perigrin> :)
21:00:35 <sbp> heh, right
21:00:38 <sbp> (is there one?)
21:00:42 <perigrin> Not that I know of.
21:00:54 <perigrin> I stopped hanging out in those circles many many years ago though
21:00:57 <sbp> the domain is registered
21:01:18 <bjoern_> .g bible wiki
21:01:19 <phenny> bjoern_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible
21:01:21 <sbp> yeah. well I'm not interested in the circles...
21:01:21 <perigrin> http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/Main_Page ?
21:02:01 <sbp> not much in the way of annotation there yet!
21:02:11 <sbp> I'm not sure it'd work on a wiki, either
21:02:23 <sbp> there'd be too much partisanism and contemporary trash
21:03:19 <perigrin> well you'd need to actually get bible scholars together to work on it ...
21:03:32 <perigrin> Knuth's 3:16 project is the closest I think to what you're wanting
21:03:33 <sbp> yeah... I guess that's why it's not happened. heh
21:03:39 <perigrin> but he only chose 1 verse from every book
21:03:56 <perigrin> .wik Knuth 3:16 project
21:03:58 <phenny> "Donald Ervin Knuth ([knuːθ] or 'Ka-NOOTH'[1]|, Chinese: 高德纳[2]|) (b. 10 January 1938) is a renowned computer scientist and Professor Emeritus of the Art of Computer Programming[3]| at Stanford University." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth
21:04:22 <sbp> ooh, interesting
21:04:33 <perigrin> he's got a series of lectures about it ...
21:04:40 <perigrin> THings a Computer Scientist doesn't talk about
21:04:40 <sbp> http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/316.html
21:04:55 <perigrin> or some such ... I have the lectures in a book somewhere and I've heard the audio
21:05:14 <sbp> http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-16-Bible-Texts-Illuminated/dp/0895792524/
21:05:16 <perigrin> brb ... time to feed the gaping maw that is my youngest child
21:05:22 <sbp> no reviews, none for sale, none for sale second-hand
21:05:22 <sbp> hehe
21:05:49 <bjoern_> You get $3.16 for every bug.
21:06:01 <sbp> ouch, none on abebooks
21:06:10 <sbp> heh. that'd be if djb published it
21:07:25 <jewel> .ety didact
21:07:25 <sbp> basically I'm after something that is as information-replete and biasless as possible
21:07:27 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "didact". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=didact
21:07:33 <sbp> .ety didactic
21:07:35 <phenny> "1658, from Fr. didactique, from Gk. didaktikos 'apt at teaching,' from didaktos 'taught,' from didaskein 'teach,' from PIE base *dens- 'wisdom, to teach, learn.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=didactic
21:08:05 <sbp> which of course leads to various conundra
21:08:18 <bjoern_> (It does say just that on 316.html)
21:08:34 <sbp> oh! chuckle
21:09:33 * sbp getz http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/john316.eps.gz
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21:15:07 <bjoern_> hmm
21:15:08 <bjoern_> .wik Amtsgericht
21:15:11 <phenny> "Amtsgericht is German for Local District Court, situated in Germany in almost every larger capital of a rural district." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtsgericht
21:15:20 * thelsdj looks over the klingons vs furies pictures
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21:15:22 <Monty> howdy, MoiraA_
21:17:06 <bjoern_> Apparently, a Amtsgericht in Berlin prohibited our federal ministry of justice to store data related to persons, generated while they used one of their web sites, beyond the actual use of the web site; so storing things like IP addresses in your server logs for a non-trivial amount of time might now get you in legal trouble
21:19:16 <sbp> ah
21:19:18 <sbp> .title http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/09/30/1117241.shtml
21:19:21 <phenny> sbp: Slashdot | Debian Refuses To Push Timezone Update For NZ DST
21:19:26 <sbp> thelsdj: was that what you were thinking about yesterday?
21:20:14 <sbp> good xkcd today. need I really say that?
21:20:27 <bjoern_> no.
21:21:12 <sbp> 'Oh, wait, no, it’s not Perry Farrell. It’s Debra Cagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs to Defence Secretary Robert Gates, pictured here receiving the Iron Cross for statements like “I hate all Iranians.“'
21:21:20 <sbp> - http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/perry-farrell-goes-nuts-shocks-british-mps/
21:21:49 <bjoern_> I personally believe, there are people out there, in our nation, who don't have mps?
21:22:15 <bjoern_> .gc buy mps to help the poor
21:22:17 <phenny> buy mps to help the poor: 15,200,000
21:22:34 <bjoern_> seems people are already taking care of it...
21:23:17 <sbp> "A Seymour Hersh piece from tomorrow's New Yorker about the Bush Administration's plan for Iran. Amazingly enough, Bush is using the same tactics he did to wage war in Iraq. This time, instead of Iraq = Al-Qaeda, it's Iran = Iraq." -> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/08/071008fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all (via Kottke)
21:24:47 <bjoern_> I thought Senate already agreed to split Iraq into three parts a few days ago...
21:25:22 <sbp> iuno
21:25:35 <sbp> I try not to think about America too much
21:26:01 <sbp> lots of blah blah over Radiohead's new album and being able to "set your own price"
21:26:02 <bjoern_> "The administration's funding request -- which came on the same day that the Senate voted overwhelmingly in favor of a nonbinding resolution calling for the split of Iraq into three semiautonomous regions ... " - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/26/AR2007092600732.html?hpid=topnews
21:26:23 <sbp> ah
21:27:21 <thelsdj> sbp: yes
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21:29:36 <Monty> But what does qopi have to do with the price of fish?
21:29:38 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
21:29:41 <Monty> "Invisible Pink Unicore ": 100.0% (5 rocks; 35 blows)
21:30:05 <bjoern_> That settles that.
21:31:46 <thelsdj> .gc "invisible pink unicode"
21:31:49 <phenny> "invisible pink unicode": 1
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21:33:41 <sbp> "And that winking light that crowds around the globe gathered to watch in the night sky? Not Sputnik at all, as it turns out, but just the second stage of its booster rocket, according to Boris Chertok, one of the founders of the Soviet space program." - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070930/ap_on_sc/sputnik_s_secrets;_ylt=Am46sP_7sUmK8ip0AA74awOs0NUE
21:35:11 <sbp> 'The U.S. had its own satellite program, Grechko said. "The Americans proudly called their project 'Vanguard,' but found themselves behind us."' - ibid.
21:36:24 <thelsdj> nice simpsons opening
21:36:29 <thelsdj> homervolution
21:39:41 <sbp> hmm. The Peter Serafinowicz Show
21:40:54 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7021414.stm
21:40:58 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Business | Fresh rules to guarantee savings
21:41:01 <sbp> 100% protection up to £35,000 now
21:41:06 <sbp> and they might increase that in future
21:41:57 <sbp> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44147000/jpg/_44147157_bear1_afp416.jpg
21:42:06 <sbp> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7020540.stm (a bear on a bridge)
21:42:17 <bjoern_> So who pays if the bank can't?
21:42:47 <bjoern_> Tax payers, it would seem?
21:45:10 <sbp> probably
21:45:11 <sbp> [[[
21:45:12 <sbp> At the time of Sputnik, John F. Kennedy was the junior senator from Massachusetts with no particular interest in space. Yuri A. Gagarin was an unheralded Russian military pilot. John H. Glenn Jr. was a Marine Corps pilot who had recently set a record for the fastest transcontinental jet flight to New York from Los Angeles. Neil A. Armstrong was testing high-performance aircraft in the California desert. Their lives were soon to be changed, as were those of hundred
21:45:12 <sbp> s of thousands of engineers, technicians, other workers and ordinary people everywhere.
21:45:19 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/science/space/25sput.html?_r=1&ref=space&oref=slogin
21:45:26 <sbp> who pays in your compensation scheme?
21:46:11 <sbp> .title http://www.ironicsans.com/2007/09/idea_the_histogram_as_the_imag.html
21:46:14 <phenny> sbp: Ironic Sans: Idea: The Histogram as the Image
21:47:15 <sbp> .title http://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/aea/letter/
21:47:18 <phenny> sbp: Adams Electronic Archive : Correspondence between John and Abigail Adams
21:47:21 <sbp> (awesome)
21:48:18 <bjoern_> There are several and may vary from bank to bank, but generally, from what I'd gathered last time I checked, you'd have a mix of the state, insurance companies, and other banks.
21:49:28 <thelsdj> .title http://www.serendipity.li/dmt/crick_lsd.htm
21:49:31 <phenny> thelsdj: Nobel Prize genius Crick was high on LSD when he discovered the secret of life
21:50:16 <sbp> clock: http://richardshed.com/product_images/colours_1.jpg
21:51:23 <sbp> blue: http://data.tumblr.com/11418156_400.jpg
21:52:41 <thelsdj> green: http://www.messybeast.com/green-cat/green-and-white.jpg
21:53:02 <sbp> "The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America."
21:53:03 <sbp> - http://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/aea/cfm/doc.cfm?id=L17760703jasecond
21:53:08 <bjoern_> 150 KB for the clock...
21:53:24 <sbp> quite cheap
21:54:02 <bjoern_> Speaking of which, I made some progress on my store-all-my-http-traffic-in-a-db plan...
21:54:08 <sbp> oh yeah?
21:54:19 <sbp> no, wait, lemme guess: you're gonna use CouchDB?
21:54:32 <bjoern_> .wik CouchDB
21:54:34 <phenny> "CouchDB (sometimes 'CouchDb') is an open-source distributed document-centric non-relational database written in Erlang." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CouchDB
21:54:43 <bjoern_> NO
21:54:47 <sbp> hehehe
21:54:57 <bjoern_> I was thinking about SQLite3 actually
21:55:00 <thelsdj> use mork!!
21:55:05 <sbp> yes! mork!
21:55:11 <bjoern_> Apache seems to have dbd support for it
21:55:21 <bjoern_> and, you know, it's "lite"
21:55:25 <sbp> Apache? why does Apache come into it?
21:55:37 <bjoern_> because it's a proxy server?
21:55:42 <sbp> OMG
21:55:54 <sbp> hence 2.2 doc reading?
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21:55:56 <Monty> But what does JimJibber have to do with the price of fish?
21:55:58 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
21:56:01 <bjoern_> it all makes sense now.
21:56:04 <sbp> yeah
21:56:04 <Monty> mm, pyramids become diamonds and 5th Baron Latimer and lotus notes they care of Iraq." -> http://a.photos.cx/pigbomb-82f.jpg
21:56:25 <bjoern_> So that's why they built them.
21:57:54 <sbp> PIGBOMB
21:58:09 <thelsdj> PIGRUDE
21:58:20 <thelsdj> .gc shitrude
21:58:22 <phenny> shitrude: 7
21:58:23 <sbp> 7
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21:59:34 <bjoern_> .title http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=f7ef05c7-1668-4ebe-a08e-af0dde5af1f1&k=11356
21:59:37 <phenny> bjoern_: Stolen iMac turned in
21:59:41 <sbp> ooh
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22:18:59 <sbp> hmm
22:19:07 <sbp> the NET Bible doesn't seem to contain 1 Esdras
22:28:08 * sbp looks through http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
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22:32:06 <sbp> ooh, the New Oxford Annotated Bible looks good
22:35:47 <perigrin> one could go through all the annotated sources and compile a nice meta-bible :)
22:36:10 <perigrin> honestly I'd like to see exgesis on the new testament apocrypha too
22:40:19 * perigrin finds nits to pick with the SAB
22:40:35 <sbp> Asimov and Kenneth C. Davis's guides look interesting. ever seen them?
22:40:52 <sbp> and yeah, I'd love to see some great NTA work
22:40:58 <sbp> there's a huge field to mine there
22:41:06 <sbp> *huge*
22:41:29 <sbp> I've looked into that quite often... I find scrips and scraps
22:43:19 <sbp> hmm, this looks interesting:
22:43:20 <sbp> [[[
22:43:21 <sbp> The Bible stands in a category of its own among world literature. How you view the Bible, however, depends on what spectacles you are wearing. Like statistics, the Bible can be used to prove almost anything. As a result Bible commentaries are notorious for giving the author's particular angle on the Bible as if it is the only viewpoint. In the case of The Oxford Bible Commentary the angle is objectively academic. John Muddiman and John Barton are the pair of Oxfor
22:43:21 <sbp> d dons who have put together the latest weighty book of Biblical scholarship. Happily, they are aware of the limitations of academic comment and don't pretend the book is more than it is.
22:43:22 <sbp> ]]]
22:43:31 <sbp> from
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22:43:33 <sbp> .title http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0199277184/
22:43:40 <phenny> sbp: Amazon.co.uk: The Oxford Bible Commentary: Books: John Barton,John Muddiman
22:43:54 <perigrin> Bible Scholarship along with LitCrit facinate me enough to almost want to go back into an English department ... but then I remember my BA and I get better.
22:44:30 <perigrin> nice
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22:47:18 <sbp> "She has been brought to life again in recent years in some radical feminist work." - OBC on Lilith, p.462
22:47:42 <sbp> yeah, I think I could only do this part-time...
22:48:55 <sbp> chuckle. Kenneth C. Davis's book sells for £6.66
22:53:11 <thelsdj> hmm, should i pay ~$80 for the new radiohead, or ~whatever the fuck i want
22:53:52 <sbp> hehe
22:53:58 <sbp> ...IN A RAINBOW
22:55:09 <thelsdj> maybe i'll pay $6.66
22:55:20 <sbp> "While the disc box is priced at ₤40 and includes the digital download, the price when purchasing just the download by itself is set by the buyer (plus a transaction fee of 45 pence if price paid is more than ₤0.00). On purchase, the buyer is prompted to type the desired price, with the text "It's up to you. No really, It's up to you." as an explanation."
22:55:26 <sbp> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Rainbows
22:55:39 <sbp> is it entirely set, or is it a range?
22:55:54 <thelsdj> entirely set
22:55:58 <sbp> awesome
22:57:29 <thelsdj> guess i'll go with 6.66GBP
22:58:05 <thelsdj> hmm, but maybe should do 6.21
22:58:33 <sbp> 6.21?
22:58:39 <thelsdj> +45
22:58:43 <thelsdj> = 666
22:58:45 <sbp> ohright
22:59:29 <thelsdj> nice!
22:59:34 <thelsdj> the registration form
22:59:39 <sbp> what happened, omh?
22:59:40 <thelsdj> has * next to mobile phone #
22:59:49 <sbp> heh, required?
22:59:50 <thelsdj> rather than home phone
22:59:56 <thelsdj> usually the other way around
23:00:00 <thelsdj> but i only have mobile
23:00:04 <sbp> I DO NOT HAVE A MOBILE
23:00:06 <thelsdj> atleast in the US
23:00:15 <sbp> bastids
23:00:26 <sbp> though I don't like Radiohead anyway
23:00:29 <sbp> so not really an issue
23:01:55 <thelsdj> i'm a sucker for electronic-wankery
23:03:36 <sbp> hehe
23:03:43 <sbp> .gc electrowank
23:03:45 <phenny> electrowank: 106
23:04:25 <thelsdj> oht his is pissing me off
23:04:48 <thelsdj> haha, twice the 'please enter the following security code' was just the text 'blank'
23:04:54 <thelsdj> so i tried not putting anything, that failed
23:05:03 <thelsdj> then i tried typing 'blank' that failed
23:05:12 <thelsdj> and finally on the 3rd try its showing me a captcha
23:06:18 <bjoern_> .weather edfm
23:06:22 <phenny> Clear ☼, 23℃, 1023mb, Light air 4km/h (2kt) (↻) - EDFM 13:20, 1120Z
23:06:47 <bjoern_> quintupled, compared to last week
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23:10:13 <perigrin> I love my job ... where else can I when referring to programming say "Ooh I have a bad Moose!"
23:11:17 <thelsdj> [[[
23:11:19 <thelsdj> Blount finally looked at Robert. And Epiphany began streaming information across his view: Google      BioSource: Winston C. Blount, MA English from UCSD 1971, PhD English Literature from UCLA 1973,       Associate Professor of English at Stanford 1973-1980, Professor of Literature and later Dean of Arts and  Letters at UCSD 1980-2012. [Biblio, Speeches, Favorite things]...
23:11:27 <thelsdj> ]]] - Rainbows End
23:11:46 <thelsdj> 'favorite things' hehe
23:12:02 <perigrin> Brown Paper Packages tied up with strings.
23:12:40 <perigrin> .compare ["brown paper packages tied up with strings"] ["brown paper packages tied up with strings" -porn]
23:12:43 <phenny> "brown paper packages tied up with strings" (13,900), "brown paper packages tied up with strings" -porn (13,400)
23:12:44 <bjoern_> I think you can say that everywhere. And we can shoot you for saying it.
23:13:08 <perigrin> bjoern_, true.
23:14:10 <thelsdj> dick in a box
23:16:52 <deltab> box in a box
23:18:41 <thelsdj> dick in a box in a box
23:20:59 <deltab> haven't heard that one
23:22:50 <thelsdj> i just made it up
23:25:34 <thelsdj> [[[
23:25:36 <thelsdj> I was actually under contract to Tor to write a different novel -- a single, standalone volume to have been called Webmind about the World Wide Web gaining consciousness. And I was finding as I was working on it that the idea was too big for one book.
23:25:40 <thelsdj> ...
23:25:45 <thelsdj> I've now gone back to the conscious-Web idea, and have sold it as a trilogy: Wake, Watch, and Wonder -- collectively, the WWW series. I'm well into Wake now, and it's coming along nicely.
23:26:12 <thelsdj> ]]] - Robert J. Sawyer http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.com/cgi-bin/mag.cgi?do=issue&vol=i6&article=_sawyer-interview (subscription required)
23:26:28 <bjoern_> .wik Tor
23:26:31 <phenny> "A tor is a type of rock outcrop formed by weathering, usually found on or near the summit of a hill." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor
23:27:06 <thelsdj> .wik Tor Books
23:27:08 <phenny> "Tor Books is an imprint of Tom Doherty Associates, LLC which publishes popular fiction, and is particularly noted for its science fiction and fantasy titles." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Books
23:27:31 <bjoern_> I was thinking
23:27:32 <bjoern_> .wik Thor
23:27:34 <bjoern_> really
23:27:35 <phenny> "Thor (Old Norse: Þór, also known as Tor) is the red-haired and bearded [1]|[2]| god of thunder and war in Norse Mythology and more generally Germanic mythology (Old English: Þunor, Old Dutch and Old High German: Donar, from Proto-Germanic *Þunraz)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor
23:27:39 <bjoern_> or
23:27:42 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Tor"?
23:27:43 <thelsdj> .wik Thor Books
23:27:45 <phenny> bjoern_: "Gate" (de)
23:27:46 <phenny> "Thor (often called The Mighty Thor) is a superhero appearing in the Marvel Comics universe." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)
23:28:07 <thelsdj> .ety tor
23:28:09 <phenny> "'high, rocky hill,' O.E. torr 'tower, rock.' Obviously cognate with Gael. torr 'lofty hill, mound,' O.Welsh twrr 'heap, pile;' and probably ult. from L. turris 'high structure' see tower)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=tor
23:29:15 * sbp just watched the Shadow Chancellor's speech...
23:29:24 <sbp> old school conservativism!
23:31:06 <thelsdj> .compare "new school" "old school" "modern school" "ancient school" "nu school"
23:31:09 <phenny> "old school" (11,900,000), "new school" (2,800,000), "modern school" (532,000), "nu school" (122,000), "ancient school" (35,700)
23:32:55 <sbp> .gc "mu school"
23:32:57 <phenny> "mu school": 41,500
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23:33:08 <sbp> cori[s]
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23:34:33 <thelsdj> oh now i get it, UP/Ex package
23:34:43 <sbp> wha? hmm?
23:35:04 <thelsdj> a combination of UPS and FedEx
23:35:32 <thelsdj> I still like SpeilbergRowling better
23:36:40 <sbp> I need to outsource more ideas
23:36:54 <thelsdj> hire someone in india
23:37:29 <thelsdj> #swhack should collectively hire some virtual assistants that we can all use
23:43:12 <thelsdj> going to start using 'watchamagoogle', good term
23:45:55 <cori[s]> sbp?
23:48:01 <bjoern_> The Swhack Clippy?
23:50:46 <bjoern_> .gc "just booze and madness"
23:50:49 <phenny> "just booze and madness": 10
23:50:59 <tobbez> Which is generally considered the best approach when coding a web site? One main page that includes the content in the right place, or that every page includes the elements needed on every page (e.g. headers, footers...)?
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23:51:15 <Monty> But what does CaptSolo have to do with the price of fish?
23:51:17 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
23:51:26 <Monty> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/28/apple_orange_spat/ Oranges and bearded [1]|[2]| god of Tom Doherty Associates, LLC which publishes popular fiction, and FedEx
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23:56:54 <bjoern_> oh there it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ZqMqsVoG8
23:57:06 <bjoern_> pity everything looks crappy on the tubes
23:58:56 <sbp> http://www.riam.kyushu-u.ac.jp/oed/img/global_ec.png
23:59:05 <sbp> hi cori[s]
23:59:40 <bjoern_> (/me supposes cori[s] was asking because sbp just said "cori[s]" when cori[s] joined...)