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00:07:31 <Arnia> Seems to be working this time
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00:39:30 <Monty> Thank goodness, Arnia is back!
00:39:32 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
00:39:38 <Monty> in case and unload. I can see it has always been at start up? I probably should have that your code comment too.
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01:14:11 <Monty> hi rob1n
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01:17:40 <therethinker> Monty, are you excited for ubuntu?
01:17:41 <Monty> saarbr??cken
01:17:54 <therethinker> Monty, what is "saarbr??cken"?
01:17:55 <Monty> hello esp
01:18:08 <therethinker> Monty, what languages do you speak?
01:18:11 <Monty> counter-tenor admits responsibility for toolbar...
01:18:21 <therethinker> I knew it monty!
01:18:22 <Monty> was still have some $$$
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02:18:19 <Monty> welcome, Arnia_
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02:39:21 <Monty> But what does Arnia have to do with the price of fish?
02:39:23 <phenny> Hush there, Monty.
02:39:25 <Monty> what's the figures around to work, but if it wouoldn't
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02:52:21 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's Arnia_!
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03:17:57 <Tene> Monty: three orange?
03:17:57 <Monty> heh
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03:26:17 <pierpa> yo Monty!
03:26:20 <Monty> I've got proof that you twist Canaries :P
03:26:24 <jsled> !
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03:29:29 <Tene> Monty: squid hands.
03:29:33 <Monty> maybe I mean if you get things like a console that for TicTacToe. (Connect 4 LIFE!
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04:00:13 <perigrin> pierpa + canaries = twisted!
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04:49:03 <Monty> bah, it's Arnia again
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05:09:20 <pierpa> .weather lirf
05:09:24 <phenny> Scattered, 15℃, 1019mb, Light Thundery Rain, Light air 3kt (↑) - LIRF, 6:50, 0450Z
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05:49:15 <bjoern_> .title http://www.ocregister.com/news/home-emami-county-1894171-ellis-system
05:49:18 <phenny> bjoern_: News: Authorities say a Washington state man hacked into Orange County's 9-1-1 system, leading to a SWAT response in Lake Forest. | home, emami, county, ellis, system - OCRegister.com
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06:19:07 <bjoern_> .title http://www.slate.com/id/2175730/entry/2175733/?GT1=10538
06:19:10 <phenny> bjoern_: American lawbreaking: What is a criminal? - By Tim Wu - Slate Magazine
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06:45:28 <Monty> howdy, laplink
06:45:41 <bjoern_> Monty !
06:45:43 <Monty> Huh? No idea what does
06:45:59 <bjoern_> Me HAAAATSCHIII either
06:46:06 <bjoern_> .gc ETOOMUCHPEPPER
06:46:09 <phenny> ETOOMUCHPEPPER: 0
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07:21:25 <sbp> ||||||||||||||||||
07:23:29 <bjoern_> ﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖﹖
07:24:00 <sbp> "Thinking that a prowler was roaming his back yard, a resident of the home, identified only as Doug B. in the district attorney’s complaint filed in court, walked outside with a kitchen knife as SWAT officers from the Orange County Sheriff’s Department waited with assault rifles. "
07:24:03 <sbp> d'oh!
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07:52:28 <bjoern_> .title http://en.rian.ru/world/20071018/84379771.html
07:52:32 <phenny> bjoern_: RIA Novosti - World - Bush warns of World War III if Iran develops atom bomb
07:52:49 <bjoern_> Today it's brhm most of the time.
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07:56:02 <Monty> Thank goodness, Arnia_ is back!
07:56:04 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
07:56:07 <Monty> Every single day, you suck oven-gloves?!
07:59:24 *** sbp changed the topic to: ""But that was the figurative tit of the iceberg.""
07:59:26 <pierpa> monty: help
07:59:26 <Monty> Help: I understand the following commands: help save stats time lookup thesaurus foldoc ignore remind tell whatson random countdown google seen box javadoc acronym weather insult translate paper/scissors/stone calc day define/declare/set
07:59:27 <Monty> Help: To ask me for help about a certain command, try "Monty: help <command>"
07:59:46 <pierpa> monty: help insult
07:59:46 <Monty> Help: "Monty: insult me"
07:59:53 <pierpa> monty: insult me
08:00:05 <pierpa> monty?
08:00:07 <Monty> he's due in function.toString()
08:00:18 <bjoern_> He sends you a privmsg.
08:00:26 <pierpa> monty: help whatson
08:00:26 <Monty> Help: "Monty: whatson BBC1 - other channels are BBC2, ITV, Channel4, Channel5, SkyOne..."
08:00:35 <bjoern_> none of those work.
08:00:43 <pierpa> ah!
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08:04:22 <sbp> [[[
08:04:23 <sbp> Guyz Nite is a "comic rock" group that made a video for its song Die Hard, composed entirely of clips from the three Die Hard movies, produced by 20th Century Fox. It was posted on YouTube.
08:04:23 <sbp> Fox's legal department went first, ordering YouTube to take down the video, pronto. But then Fox's marketing department effectively reversed its own lawyers by contacting Guyz Nite and offering to pay them to put the video back up.
08:04:29 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.slate.com/id/2175730/entry/2175731/
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08:09:57 <pierpa> sigh
08:10:17 <pierpa> monty: insult me
08:10:59 <bjoern_> MONTY: INSULT
08:11:07 <bjoern_> .mangle Piss off you iain duncan smith driving, anal madasfucking, tish eating wank monkey men loving, homophobic squirting, elephant leaping, george foreman grill climping, chesney gijon-felching, pissflap mincing, toilet shafting, kittens fluffing, anal anus slutting, shit-eater snogging, bucket muff shrew like bummer!
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08:11:20 <phenny> bjoern_: "Gijon d' Esser of mouse, that the felchingchesney, those place from there the impassioned accent of the human wasting and the bucket of bath of Duncan in the order, which is taste of the monkey and the elephant, which begins jumps, has schmied the grill, which and the urine is eaten, which, around Fluffing of the fraud of thing to be them, the thi
08:11:34 <pierpa> hmmm
08:11:56 <bjoern_> U HAZ SCHMIED TEH GRILL
08:12:29 <pierpa> phenny: help
08:12:31 <phenny> Hi, I'm phenny (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)
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08:12:34 <phenny> Commands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, compare, email, event, gimage, google, googlecalc, googlecount, googledef, httphead, kalusa, mangle, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, rate, rates, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet
08:12:38 <phenny> Try "phenny: help command?" if stuck. My owner is sbp.
08:12:44 <pierpa> phenny: help gimage
08:12:46 <phenny> '.img <query> - Google image search for <query>.'
08:12:54 <pierpa> phenny: help mangle
08:12:56 <phenny> '.mangle <phrase> - Mangle <phrase>'
08:13:05 <bjoern_> that's broken... or was when we tried it
08:13:09 <bjoern_> .img schmied
08:13:12 <phenny> schmied: http://www.mostviertel.incoming.at
08:13:20 <bjoern_> jupp
08:13:21 <pierpa> .wordnet hand
08:13:27 <phenny> hand n. 1: The (prehensile) extremity of the superior limb
08:13:29 <phenny> hand v. 1: Place into the hands or custody of
08:13:31 <phenny> hand v. 2: Guide or conduct or usher somewhere.
08:13:55 <sbp> [[[
08:13:55 <sbp> In one famous incident in 1961, three IRS agents seized the plow horses of an Amish farmer named Valentine Byler, auctioned them off, paid off his taxes, and then sent him his $37.89 in change.
08:14:02 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.slate.com/id/2175730/entry/2175741/
08:15:06 <pierpa> phenny: help podecoint
08:15:08 <phenny> '.pc <utf-8> - Discover a utf-8 encoded codepoint.'
08:15:31 <pierpa> phenny: help email
08:15:34 <phenny> '.email <recipient> <subject> // <body> - Email someone.'
08:16:13 <pierpa> .email botolo@micso.net prova // foo
08:16:15 <phenny> Sorry, you're not allowed to use this command. Do 'phenny: ask sbp to add <name> <email> to .email' to be added.
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08:17:11 <pierpa> phenny: help wordlength 2007
08:17:13 <phenny> Sorry, no documentation for wordlength 2007.
08:17:16 <pierpa> phenny: help wordlength2007
08:17:18 <phenny> ".wordlength2007 <nick> - Count <nick>'s wordlength on Swhack."
08:17:26 <pierpa> phenny: help wordlength2007 sbp
08:17:28 <phenny> Sorry, no documentation for wordlength2007 sbp.
08:17:35 <pierpa> .wordlength2007 sbp
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08:17:52 <phenny> sbp: average 3.76699 bytes/word
08:17:53 <sbp> wordlength2007 is probably broken
08:17:56 <sbp> ah, maybe not
08:18:03 <pierpa> .wordlength2007 pierpa
08:18:06 <phenny> pierpa: average 3.76699 bytes/word
08:18:16 <pierpa> same average :)
08:19:06 <bjoern_> .wordlength2007 Monty
08:19:10 <Monty> I reckon amphetamines + traffic = FreeBSD sexual organs ;)
08:19:10 <phenny> Monty: average 3.76699 bytes/word
08:19:11 <Monty> hmmmmmm
08:19:33 <pierpa> hmmm
08:22:10 <sbp> yeah, maybe broken then
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08:24:37 <bjoern_> "Expert Joseph Califano estimates that the United States, representing just 4 percent of the world's population, consumes nearly two-thirds of the world's recreational drugs."
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08:29:45 <sbp> yeah, that was a good bit
08:32:26 <bjoern_> '''"Would you rather be chasing terrorists, or some guy who reads Hustler?"'''
08:32:39 <bjoern_> these days, the guy reading Hustler is more likely to have a gun, methinks...
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08:43:41 <bjoern_> .wik ripemd-160
08:43:45 <phenny> "RIPEMD-160 (RACE Integrity Primitives Evaluation Message Digest) is a 160-bit message digest algorithm (and cryptographic hash function) developed in Europe by Hans Dobbertin, Antoon Bosselaers and Bart Preneel, and first published in 1996 ." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPEMD
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08:54:52 <bjoern_> .calc 26^10
08:54:55 <phenny> 26^10 = 1.41167096e14
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09:23:05 <KragenSitaker> .mangle how old is your cat?
09:23:15 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "To be long this cat those becomes, is?"
09:23:28 <sbp> .mangle how do kittens bond?
09:23:41 <phenny> sbp: "None"
09:23:44 <sbp> aw
09:23:55 <bjoern_> .mangle u like lol cats?
09:23:58 <sbp> .mangle seriously how do kittens bond?
09:24:09 <phenny> sbp: "Is the engagement of value of the fixing of adhesive simultaneous?"
09:24:17 <phenny> bjoern_: "Which"
09:24:31 <bjoern_> .mangle any of them?
09:25:07 <phenny> bjoern_: "With which"
09:25:24 <bjoern_> .mangle i can hate lol cats
09:25:35 <phenny> bjoern_: "With which"
09:25:36 <KragenSitaker> .help mangle
09:25:41 <Emeka> exceptions.ValueError: need more than 0 values to unpack
09:25:46 <KragenSitaker> fuck you Emeka
09:26:05 <bjoern_> .mangle fuck you Emeka
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09:26:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "Receive Emeka, which fills it in top"
09:26:32 <KragenSitaker> what's the mangle pipeline again?
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09:27:00 <bjoern_> Lawyer -> Monty -> Lawyer.
09:27:01 <KragenSitaker> .mangle I seem to be having a terrible problem with my life-style.
09:27:03 <Monty> I reckon chloroform + script = WaveRace.
09:27:18 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "With which"
09:27:27 <KragenSitaker> no, that's not right
09:27:27 <bjoern_> i call bugz!
09:27:32 <KragenSitaker> .mangle I seem to be having a terrible problem with my life-style.
09:27:52 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "None"
09:27:59 <KragenSitaker> that's not right either
09:28:00 <KragenSitaker> .mangle I seem to be having a terrible problem with my life-style.
09:28:11 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "There to be terrible, in my form of my life, see you the problem."
09:29:05 <KragenSitaker> .mangle Should you really open your eyes and see, you would behold your image in all images.
09:29:15 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "None"
09:29:18 <KragenSitaker> .mangle Should you really open your eyes and see, you would behold your image in all images.
09:29:32 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "In order to consider your eye of realness, this image of report/ratio of all is prolonged it image in 10 and."
09:29:33 <KragenSitaker> .mangle It takes two of us to discover truth: one to utter it and one to understand it.
09:29:44 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "For the truth, our two things discover, because they have that,: in more include/understand due to the errors, you tighten."
09:30:00 <KragenSitaker> Yes, yes, I do tighten.
09:30:02 <KragenSitaker> SOmetimes.
09:31:01 <KragenSitaker> .mangle
09:31:05 <KragenSitaker> .mangle Trees are poems that the earth writes upon the sky. We fell them down and turn them into paper that we may record our emptiness.
09:31:10 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "With which"
09:31:11 <sbp> deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess
09:31:16 <phenny> KragenSitaker: "The poetries drink some, us, we observe emptily who it preserved drink of goods the country are trained, it are the going beyond of the thing, to which those written paper in Ca3.imos sky of small stone N."
09:31:29 <bjoern_> .wik Boris Berezovsky
09:31:33 <phenny> "Boris Abramovich Berezovsky (Russian: Бори́с Абра́мович Березо́вский; born January 23, 1946) is a Russian billionaire." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky
09:31:54 <sbp> .weather EGLL
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09:31:58 <phenny> Clear ☼, 10℃, 1034mb, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - EGLL 10:20, 0920Z
09:31:59 <sbp> .weather EDFM
09:32:03 <phenny> Cloudy, 11℃, 1027mb, Moderate breeze 20km/h (11kt) (↑) - EDFM 11:20, 0920Z
09:32:18 <sbp> it seems really cold here for 10℃
09:32:37 <bjoern_> tell me about it! with eleven knots of cold wind.
09:33:05 <bjoern_> .calc eleven knots in yards per fortnight
09:33:13 <phenny> eleven knots = 7 485 774.28 yards per fortnight
09:35:02 <sbp> that's a lot of yards covered every fortnight
09:35:15 <sbp> .calc eleven knots in yards per microfortnight
09:35:18 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
09:35:20 <sbp> boo
09:35:27 <sbp> .gc microfortnight
09:35:30 <phenny> microfortnight: 910
09:36:01 <sbp> .calc eleven knots in yards per fortnight * (1/1000000)
09:36:04 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
09:36:10 <sbp> OH BASTARD
09:36:24 <sbp> .calc (eleven * (1/1000000)) knots in yards per fortnight
09:36:25 <sbp> THERE
09:36:27 <phenny> (eleven * (1 / 1 000 000)) * knots = 7.48577428 yards per fortnight
09:36:31 <sbp> WINZ
09:36:46 <sbp> .unicode micro
09:36:49 <phenny> U+00B5 MICRO SIGN (µ)
09:37:04 <sbp> yds/µftnght = win
09:37:21 <darobin> .weather WINZ
09:37:23 <phenny> WINZ: no such ICAO code
09:37:27 <darobin> bah
09:37:43 <sbp> .weather LOLS
09:37:45 <phenny> LOLS: no such ICAO code
09:38:09 <sbp> .gc loliferous
09:38:11 <darobin> .weather LOOZ
09:38:12 <phenny> loliferous: 3
09:38:17 <phenny> LOOZ: no such ICAO code
09:39:30 <bjoern_> .weather LOLF
09:39:31 <phenny> LOLF: no data provided
09:39:43 <bjoern_> .weather KIRK
09:39:44 <phenny> Clear ☼, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.22in (986mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KIRK 3:55, 0855Z
09:39:52 <bjoern_> .weather PHNY
09:39:53 <phenny> Clear ☼, 69.8℉ (21℃), 30.13in (1017mb), Moderate breeze 11kt (↑) - PHNY 22:56, 0856Z
09:40:06 <sbp> nice and warm in PHNY
09:40:06 <bjoern_> .weather FOOD
09:40:10 <phenny> Overcast ☁, 25℃, 1013mb, Light air 3kt (↻) - FOOD 18:00, 1700Z
09:40:16 <bjoern_> .weather GAGS
09:40:16 <phenny> Clear ☼, 32℃, 1013mb, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - GAGS 09:00Z
09:40:24 <sbp> schwizeet
09:42:28 <bjoern_> .wik PHNY
09:42:44 <phenny> "Lānaʻi Airport (IATA: LNY, ICAO: PHNY) is a public airport located 3 miles (5 km) southwest of Lānaʻi City, serving as the only airport of the island of Lānaʻi, Hawaiʻi in the United States." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai_Airport
09:44:20 <bjoern_> map sick and twisted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii
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09:45:39 <Monty> hey chris2
09:45:52 <bjoern_> .wik Apology Resolution
09:45:55 <phenny> "The Apology Resolution is a U.S. Public Law adopted in 1993 in which the U.S. Government apologized for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apology_Resolution
09:46:05 <bjoern_> uups sry
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09:49:04 <deltab> .weather MONT
09:49:10 <phenny> MONT: no such ICAO code
09:49:15 <KragenSitaker> .calc parsecs per fortnight in miles per hour
09:49:17 <phenny> 1 Parsec per fortnight = 5.70640719e10 miles per hour
09:49:34 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical units per fortnight in miles per hour
09:49:36 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per fortnight = 276 654.427 miles per hour
09:49:53 <KragenSitaker> .calc microparsecs per fortnight
09:49:56 <phenny> 1 microParsecs per fortnight = 25 509.9227 m / s
09:53:37 <KragenSitaker> .calc nanoparsecs per fortnight
09:53:39 <phenny> 1 nanoParsecs per fortnight = 25.5099227 m / s
09:53:45 <KragenSitaker> .calc nanoparsecs per fortnight in miles per hour
09:53:47 <phenny> 1 nanoParsecs per fortnight = 57.0640719 miles per hour
09:54:03 <cre8radix> naaa
09:54:27 <cre8radix> .calc infinite in years
09:54:30 <phenny> cre8radix: Sorry, no result.
09:54:36 <cre8radix> thought so
09:54:37 <cre8radix> ;P
09:54:45 <cre8radix> thanks, phenny
09:54:55 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical units per month in miles per hour
09:55:02 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per month = 127 252.393 miles per hour
09:55:11 <cre8radix> wow
09:55:44 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per month
09:55:46 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per month = 56 886.9098 m / s
09:55:54 <cre8radix> .calc 1 Astronomical Unit in Dicksize
09:55:55 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per month in kilometers per hour
09:55:56 <phenny> cre8radix: Sorry, no result.
09:55:57 <cre8radix> ;P
09:55:58 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per month = 204 792.875 kilometers per hour
09:56:11 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per year
09:56:11 <cre8radix> OMG
09:56:13 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per year = 4 740.57581 m / s
09:56:17 <cre8radix> where's my brain
09:56:22 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per kiloyear
09:56:22 * cre8radix lost it
09:56:24 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
09:56:29 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per millennium
09:56:32 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per millennium = 4.74057581 m / s
09:56:37 <KragenSitaker> .calc astronomical unit per millennium in miles per hour
09:56:39 <phenny> 1 Astronomical Unit per millennium = 10.6043661 miles per hour
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09:58:10 <darobin> hey that's pretty cool
09:58:24 <darobin> why don't they have car speeds measured in AUpM?
09:59:41 <sbp> phenny: "RUND MÄCHTIG GEWALTIG"?
09:59:45 <phenny> sbp: "APPROXIMATELY POWERFUL ENORMOUS" (de)
09:59:46 <KragenSitaker> .calc sidereal year
09:59:48 <phenny> 1 sidereal year = 1.00003878 years
10:00:05 <KragenSitaker> what do you call that thing where the zodiac turns around once?
10:00:15 <sbp> procession
10:00:31 <KragenSitaker> precession, yeah, but what do you call the time period?
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10:01:05 <sbp> XANGZO'R
10:01:33 <sbp> .wik Great year
10:01:36 <phenny> "A Great year (also known as a Platonic year or Equinoctial cycle) is the time required for one complete cycle of the precession of the equinoxes, about 25800 years, at the current rate (actual length is 25,765 years)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_year
10:02:12 <sbp> s/^pro/pre/ indeed
10:02:56 <KragenSitaker> .calc platonic year
10:02:58 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
10:03:04 <KragenSitaker> .calc equinoctial cycle
10:03:06 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
10:03:08 <KragenSitaker> .calc great year
10:03:10 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
10:03:11 <sbp> you have to do a calculation with me
10:03:14 <sbp> er, with them
10:03:17 <sbp> with me and them
10:03:21 <sbp> compare:
10:03:24 <sbp> .calc year
10:03:27 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
10:03:27 <sbp> .calc 1 year
10:03:30 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
10:03:31 <sbp> .calc 1 year in days
10:03:34 <KragenSitaker> .calc meters per great year
10:03:34 <phenny> 1 year = 365.242199 days
10:03:36 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
10:03:46 <sbp> .calc 1 great year in days
10:03:47 <KragenSitaker> but .calc sidereal year worked
10:03:49 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
10:03:57 <KragenSitaker> .calc platonic year in days
10:03:59 <sbp> .calc 1 equinoctial cycle in days
10:03:59 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Sorry, no result.
10:04:02 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
10:04:07 <sbp> there are some anomalies. best to do a calculation to be safe
10:04:15 <sbp> so yeah, it sucks
10:07:11 <KragenSitaker> i was just thinking that for larger distance units, it would be nice to have larger time units to measure them in also
10:09:21 <sbp> good idea
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10:12:48 <KragenSitaker> like , a light-second per great year is a pretty reasonable human-scale speed
10:12:53 <KragenSitaker> .calc light-second per 25800 years
10:12:53 <phenny> 1 light-second per (25 800 years) = 0.000368219095 m / s
10:13:16 <KragenSitaker> .calc light-second per 25800 years in feet per hour
10:13:16 <phenny> 1 light-second per (25 800 years) = 4.34904443 feet per hour
10:13:28 <KragenSitaker> see, that's a nice snaily speed
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10:14:45 <sbp> fo schezmle
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10:45:03 <sbp> dpawson!
10:47:28 <sbp> phenny: tell kpreid you flipping hobo! you didn't mention http://homepage.mac.com/kpreid/2003/10/rdf-quote.xml when I spent three days making an RDF Quotes Ontology! I'm surprised I hadn't seen it before... what'd you make it for? still using it?
10:47:29 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when kpreid is around.
10:47:58 <danja> sbp, http://dannyayers.com/2007/10/18/sparql-rules-for
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10:48:42 <sbp> bwahaha
10:48:46 <bjoern_> ah the good old [[[
10:48:47 <bjoern_> Error: Internal Server Error (500)
10:48:47 <bjoern_> An error prevented your request from being completed
10:48:47 <bjoern_> Details
10:48:47 <bjoern_> java.lang.NullPointerException
10:48:47 <bjoern_> at org.wymiwyg.knobot.ItemGetHandler.handle(ItemGetHandler.java:116)
10:48:49 <bjoern_> at org.wymiwyg.rwcf.impl.HandlerChainImpl.doNext(HandlerChainImpl.java:151)
10:48:51 <bjoern_> ...
10:48:52 <bjoern_> ]]]
10:49:48 * sbp subscribarz to http://dannyayers.com/.rss?replaceLang=en&replaceLang=de&replaceLang=it&replaceLang=fr&; because clearly manual polling == suck
10:50:36 <sbp> hmm. JSON...
10:50:37 <sbp> hmm
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10:56:04 <sbp> danja: bwahaha at the cat in the box by the way
10:56:19 <sbp> seems like everybody's protesting the terms of use these days. perhaps I should join it
10:56:26 <sbp> FSM + SWlogo
10:59:44 <danja> cool, wind up the w3c and bible-bashers in one swoop
11:00:16 * sbp tries to work out why those CONSTRUCTs don't work
11:00:35 <sbp> yeah. I wonder if we could throw any other windups in there to boot? :-)
11:00:44 <danja> I just dropped a note into #jena, doesn't seem like AndyS is around
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11:04:05 <danja> hmm, actually JSON SPARQL results should be reasonably Python-friendly, though I vaguely remember an encoding problem...
11:04:36 <danja> somewhere around json/unicode/python I think
11:04:38 <sbp> well that's not so bad
11:04:50 <sbp> I went for XSLT mainly because I wanted to use as generic and as off-the-shelf a templating language as possible
11:04:55 <sbp> XSLT is pretty agnostic in that sense
11:05:03 <sbp> but... on the other hand it's quite limited in some ways
11:05:39 <sbp> I did find an rdf:first bug in roqet, but I don't recall one in ARQ
11:06:15 <sbp> so anyway, what you're basically trying to do is rules-in-sparql?
11:06:36 <sbp> but obviously you need multiple sparqlings to carry that out
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11:07:02 <sbp> that's kinda great. you could make a language called RISP (Rules In SParql), and have a <sparqlings> element in there. I'd support that
11:07:16 <sbp> problem is though I don't think it'd be as expressive as CWM still
11:07:31 <sbp> in that it has a reasonably clever --think mode which tries to get out of infinite looping
11:08:00 <sbp> I'm not exactly sure how it does that (does anyone?), but you can be sure there's some black market dealing going on there
11:08:02 <Arnia_> PARACONSISTENT BABBAGE!
11:08:09 <sbp> Arnia_! you're around!
11:08:21 <sbp> your router's still rboking out
11:09:08 <danja> AndyS says my query's wrong...
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11:12:32 <KragenSitaker> hi arnia! did you submit your paper?
11:13:23 <danja> .g "sparql rules"
11:13:26 <phenny> danja: http://platon.escet.urjc.es/~axel/publications/GIA-TR-2006-11-28.pdf
11:13:48 <danja> wow, the .g personalisation really does skew my world view
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11:14:07 <danja> I got http://dannyayers.com/2007/09/12/sparql-rules
11:14:13 <sbp> oh! bet you can't conjure the ?p from nothing, right?
11:14:44 <sbp> that wouldn't explain why rule1.rq and rule2.rq fail though
11:14:50 <danja> heh, no that doesn't look quite right...
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11:16:22 <danja> ok, tweaking to:
11:16:24 <danja> WHERE
11:16:37 <danja> {
11:16:39 <danja> ?s rdf:first ?o .
11:16:43 <eel> # syntax error:
11:16:44 <eel> # s rdf:first ?o .
11:16:45 <eel> # ^
11:16:46 <eel> # @ <irc://chat.freenode.net/swhack?danja#:span::1:4::1:4>
11:16:58 <danja> ?s ?p ?o .
11:16:58 <eel> # syntax error:
11:16:59 <eel> # s ?p ?o .
11:17:00 <eel> # ^
11:17:01 <eel> # @ <irc://chat.freenode.net/swhack?danja#:span::1:2::1:2>
11:18:13 <sbp> danja: why have ?s rdf:first ?o and ?s ?p ?o?
11:18:22 <sbp> the only thing that ?p is going to be bound to is rdf:first
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11:20:37 <danja> enough to say that ARQ is recognising the rdf:first in ([] [])
11:21:13 <danja> AndyS is running through it in #jena right now, I'd paste but this client doesn't seem to want to
11:21:32 <sbp> joining
11:21:35 <sbp> well, joined
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11:36:29 <d8uv> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=549P2XRImUc
11:37:38 <bjoern_> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=549P2XRImUc
11:37:42 <phenny> bjoern_: YouTube - LIONEL RICHIE - Hello - live - on HELIUM!!!
11:37:47 <d8uv> bjoern is a wuss
11:37:54 <bjoern_> and proud of it.
11:38:46 <d8uv> That's it, I'm going to upload goat porn to youtube but give it innocuous titles
11:39:16 <bjoern_> but why make goat porn difficult to find?
11:39:24 <KragenSitaker> isn't it already difficult to find?
11:39:39 <bjoern_> not if d8uv uploads a lot
11:39:46 <KragenSitaker> i guess i've never looked, but i'd think i would have run into it by accident if it were really common
11:40:06 <bjoern_> yes, I also use that excuse.
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11:45:11 <KragenSitaker> ? 1 + 1
11:45:49 * sbp returns from bugging the W3C sysreq team
11:45:58 <sbp> they're tremendously helpful and friendly. very impressed
11:46:07 <sbp> I got a 403 from somewhere at random the other day, and was wondering why
11:46:11 <sbp> so they're looking into it
11:46:15 * bjoern_ waves to sbp's parallel dimension
11:46:24 <sbp> though I really went in there to ask how often I could poll the site
11:46:26 <sbp> bjoern_: indeed!
11:46:44 <sbp> super quick answers, thoughtful, and just what I wanted to hear
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11:47:04 <KragenSitaker> aw eel doesn't love me
11:47:10 <sbp> probably namedropping G****d helped :-)
11:47:21 <sbp> KragenSitaker: I just +q'd it because it was yapping at danja's SPARQL
11:47:28 <sbp> try now
11:47:29 <bjoern_> Gooold?
11:47:31 <sbp> ? 1 + 1
11:47:32 <eel> # value: 2
11:47:32 <KragenSitaker> ? 3 + 4
11:47:33 <eel> # value: 7
11:47:44 <sbp> bjoern_: Gera*d
11:47:59 <KragenSitaker> maybe we could make it require a space after the ?
11:48:25 <sbp> hmm, Anne van Kesteren's there too
11:48:37 <bjoern_> But why would you bribe them with Gera*d !?!
11:48:38 <sbp> I thought it was some W3T person, but guess not!
11:48:44 <sbp> bjoern_: why not?
11:48:50 <sbp> KragenSitaker: ah, that's a good idea
11:48:59 <bjoern_> You don't have a spare Gera*d?
11:49:19 <sbp> phenny: ask kpreid if he can require the space after the "?" to invoke eel, please, to prevent it yapping at pasted SPARQL and N3. Kragen's good idea
11:49:22 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when kpreid is around.
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11:53:41 <dpawson> Most sentences have a white space after the ? character. Is that a good idea? 3 + months to implement etc.
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11:57:05 <sbp> dpawson: heh, there's also the constraint that the ? comes at the beginning of the line
11:57:13 <sbp> hopefully he won't remove that one :-)
12:04:23 <bjoern_> SBP IS GREEN
12:04:43 <bjoern_> right there in my list of nicknames
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12:05:57 <sbp> a nice shade of green, I hope?
12:06:07 <sbp> green isn't like red though, with a thousand named shades
12:06:17 <sbp> what shades of green even are there? verdigris? emerald?
12:07:16 <sbp> right
12:07:17 <bjoern_> chanopdarkgreen perhaps?
12:07:17 <sbp> so
12:07:23 <sbp> there are 18,831 triples on inamidst.com
12:08:04 <sbp> .calc 177745 bytes in KB
12:08:08 <phenny> 177 745 bytes = 173.579102 kilobytes
12:08:12 <sbp> which compresses to that much N-Triples
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12:19:17 <sbp> okay
12:19:27 <sbp> I think I'll see how many are on www.w3.org
12:19:28 <sbp> which might take days, but whee
12:23:27 <sbp> hmm
12:23:36 <sbp> I think I'll write a GRDDL parser first actually
12:24:11 <bjoern_> .title http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/16/AR2007101601392_pf.html
12:24:14 <phenny> bjoern_: Drug-Resistant Staph Germ's Toll Is Higher Than Thought
12:25:20 <bjoern_> "The microbe, a strain of a once innocuous staph bacterium that has become invulnerable to first-line antibiotics, is responsible for more than 94,000 serious infections and nearly 19,000 deaths each year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calculated."
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12:42:47 <bjoern_> .calc 3230 over 40 years
12:42:50 <phenny> 3 230 over (40 years) = 2.55886774e-6 hertz
12:43:06 <bjoern_> .calc (3230 over 40 years) in 1/year
12:43:09 <phenny> bjoern_: Sorry, no result.
12:43:26 <bjoern_> .calc (3230 cm over 40 years) in cm per year
12:43:29 <phenny> (3 230 cm) over (40 years) = 80.75 cm per year
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12:48:04 <sbp> seems to be going well so far
12:50:36 <sbp> md5-sorting is pretty fun
12:51:40 * bjoern_ has many thousand md5-named 7z files somewhere...
12:52:05 <bjoern_> So I tried to find out how many people died in terrorist incidents in the "U.S." since jan 2002
12:52:10 <KragenSitaker> bjoern_: that article is terrible. it incorrectly identifies methicillin as a "first-line" antibiotic --- methicillin is hardly used at all anymore, and has never been a first-line antibiotic ---
12:52:37 <bjoern_> so far without any real success, the best number I could come up with is "4"
12:53:28 <bjoern_> from http://www.tkb.org/IncidentRegionModule.jsp?startDate=01%2F01%2F2002&endDate=10%2F18%2F2007&domInt=0&suiInt=0&filter=0&detail=0&info=&info1=2&pagemode=national®ionid=2&countryid=&sortby=&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0 which also lists all the recorded incidents if you click
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12:54:10 <kpreid> ¶
12:54:12 <phenny> kpreid: 10:59Z <sbp> tell kpreid you flipping hobo! you didn't mention http://homepage.mac.com/kpreid/2003/10/rdf-quote.xml when I spent three days making an RDF Quotes Ontology! I'm surprised I hadn't seen it before... what'd you make it for? still using it?
12:54:16 <phenny> kpreid: 12:01Z <sbp> ask kpreid if he can require the space after the "?" to invoke eel, please, to prevent it yapping at pasted SPARQL and N3. Kragen's good idea
12:54:35 <KragenSitaker> and it is full of stupid ambiguous terms for things that have perfectly good specific terms
12:55:21 <KragenSitaker> like "flesh-eating strep infections" presumably refers to some specific kind of infection, but it doesn't say what
12:55:40 <KragenSitaker> "another bacterium, which causes ear infections" --- WHAT BACTERIUM ASSHOLES?
12:55:41 <kpreid> phenny: tell sbp (1) aaargh! sorry! I even thought of it, but didn't speak up I don't know why. (2) yeah, that's perhaps a good idea. otoh e.g. in #erights I wouldn't want such a policy - new users tend to be imprecise about such things
12:55:44 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
12:56:40 <KragenSitaker> and the whole article completely neglects to mention the antibiotics-in-animal-feed issue
12:59:35 <bjoern_> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents I count 3, if I don't count the "Beltway sniper attacks"
13:00:05 <bjoern_> "Driving SUV into a crowd" seems to be a popular sport in the U.S. these days.
13:00:51 <KragenSitaker> why wouldn't you count the beltway sniper attacks?
13:01:10 <sbp> kpreid: fair enough! could special-case #swhack—or #erights
13:01:29 <KragenSitaker> or you could use ??
13:01:43 <bjoern_> because the other web site apparently doesn't
13:01:48 <KragenSitaker> which would work well enough for new users and wouldn't collide with sparql i think
13:01:54 <sbp> bjoern_: does it say what those events were?
13:02:53 <bjoern_> ym http://www.tkb.org/IncidentRegionModule.jsp?countryid=US&pagemode=incident&startDate=01/01/2002&endDate=10/18/2007®ionid=2&filter=0&detail=0&setFilter=1&suiInt=0&domInt=0&info=United%20States&info1=2 ?
13:03:31 <KragenSitaker> there was a terrorist incident in texas a few months ago that isn't mentioned on there either. the bomb squad got the bomb, though.
13:03:32 <sbp> okay, but then those don't show which resulted in fatalities
13:03:54 <KragenSitaker> in austin
13:04:40 <KragenSitaker> i think that wikipedia page should be renamed "List of non-state terrorist incidents"
13:05:53 <bjoern_> http://www.tkb.org/Incident.jsp?incID=13888
13:05:57 <KragenSitaker> april 26th? http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/26/clinic.bomb/index.html
13:05:58 <bjoern_> http://www.tkb.org/Incident.jsp?incID=32264
13:06:10 <bjoern_> those are the two
13:06:15 <sbp> bjoern_: statistically, you're more likely to be involved in ?event than be caught up in a terrorist attack in the US since 2002--what kind of things fulfill ?event, I wonder?
13:06:25 <sbp> interesting ones, obviously
13:06:36 <sbp> then we can lobby the US govt. to declare war on them too
13:06:49 <bjoern_> I think struck by lightning is a lot more common
13:06:56 <sbp> yeah, that's too obvious
13:07:10 <sbp> I was thinking being brutally stabbed using a lollipop or something
13:08:03 <KragenSitaker> Paul Evans was the bomber
13:08:28 <bjoern_> .wik Paul Evans
13:08:31 <phenny> "Paul Evans (athlete), British athlete who won the 1996 Chicago marathon" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Evans
13:08:35 <KragenSitaker> wrong paul evans
13:08:41 <KragenSitaker> http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2731045520070727
13:09:06 <KragenSitaker> i think the distribution of deaths from terrorist attacks is not very uniform
13:09:23 <KragenSitaker> so the error bars on a probability estimate based on an average over some period of time are quite large
13:09:33 <KragenSitaker> if you extend back to 2001, you will get a larger number
13:09:52 <sbp> might as well extend back to 1945
13:10:05 <sbp> it'll still be lower than lightning deaths, I'd guess
13:10:14 <sbp> possibly not lollipop deaths though
13:10:28 <bjoern_> 3230 since 1968 says tkb
13:11:05 <KragenSitaker> does tkb include the Paul Evans bombing in Austin in April of this year?
13:11:10 <bjoern_> the darwin awards should publish duplicates
13:11:27 <bjoern_> who died there?
13:11:31 <KragenSitaker> nobody
13:11:33 <sbp> Lightning-Associated Deaths -- United States, 1980-1995
13:11:33 <sbp> In the United States from 1980 through 1995, a total of 1318 deaths were attributed to lightning, (average: 82 deaths per year {range: 53-100 deaths}). ...
13:11:33 <sbp> wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/PrevGuid/m0052833/m0052833.asp
13:11:47 <KragenSitaker> do they only include events where people died?
13:11:56 <sbp> .calc 1318 / (1995 - 1980)
13:11:59 <phenny> 1 318 / (1 995 - 1 980) = 87.8666667
13:12:02 <bjoern_> I only include them!
13:12:08 <KragenSitaker> if it doesn't include that event, maybe it's systematically excluding victims of Christian extremist terrorists like Evans, who have in fact killed quite a number of people
13:12:10 <sbp> funny way of calculating the average. 82?
13:12:12 <sbp> anyway
13:12:32 <sbp> .calc (2007 - 1968) * 87.8666667
13:12:35 <phenny> (2 007 - 1 968) * 87.8666667 = 3 426.8
13:12:52 <sbp> lightning is marginally more dangerous than terrorism since 1968
13:13:50 <kpreid> KragenSitaker: eel's syntax is deliberately imitative of Updoc and ?? means something else in Updoc
13:14:07 <bjoern_> You can search for Paul Evans on the site, it lists some legal documents "USA_v_Pierce"
13:14:43 <KragenSitaker> there's a notorious web site called "The Nuremberg Files" operated by some of these terrorists; it lists victims and future targets
13:15:54 <darobin> .calc 1318 / (1995 - 1979)
13:15:56 <phenny> 1 318 / (1 995 - 1 979) = 82.37500
13:16:00 <KragenSitaker> bjoern_: are they relevant?
13:16:06 <darobin> they were taking boundaries
13:16:09 * bjoern_ shrugs
13:16:48 <sbp> darobin: aha, thanks
13:18:07 <darobin> I'm not sure you could have a War on Lightning though
13:18:15 <darobin> Operation Titans Strike Back!
13:19:01 <darobin> I'm pretty sure Depression kills an order of magnitude or two more than Terror however
13:19:04 <sbp> you could set up more lightning conductors
13:19:15 <sbp> War on Depression, yes!
13:19:21 <sbp> free cuddly toys for all
13:19:34 <sbp> and lollipops
13:19:41 <KragenSitaker> this lists numbers of incidents per year in the terrorist campaign against US abortion clinics: http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm
13:19:43 <darobin> today in support of the War on Depression the President will be appearing on TV as Bozo the Clown!
13:19:52 <sbp> hehe
13:19:57 <KragenSitaker> unfortunately it does not list body counts
13:20:03 <sbp> so, no change there
13:20:04 <darobin> .g rogue emotions
13:20:06 <phenny> darobin: http://www.myhogan.com/exiles/fanfiction/darkdreams.html
13:20:19 <darobin> sbp: the labelling changes all
13:24:39 <KragenSitaker> the point of terrorism isn't body counts, though. it's intimidation.
13:26:09 <bjoern_> I thought it's triggering change in behavior to some political end.
13:26:34 <KragenSitaker> yes, by means of terror.
13:27:34 <bjoern_> Well, I don't think "terror" is particularily well-defined. and does not necessarily intimidate.
13:27:40 <KragenSitaker> here's a list of victims of this particular terror campaign: http://www.christiangallery.com/atrocity/aborts.html
13:27:51 <KragenSitaker> .dict intimidate
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13:27:58 <KragenSitaker> .mw intimidate
13:28:01 <phenny> intimidate: definition not found
13:28:06 <KragenSitaker> .mw terror
13:28:08 <phenny> terror: definition not found
13:28:15 <KragenSitaker> .mw the
13:28:17 <phenny> the: definition not found
13:28:44 <KragenSitaker> "terror" means "intense fear". "intimidate" means "to cause fear in". no?
13:29:29 <bjoern_> U.S. suicide rate is somewhere around 10 in 100,000 per year, apparently.
13:30:47 * sbp canonicalises that to 1 in 10,000
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13:35:44 <sbp> 15,343 triples found on www.w3.org so far
13:35:52 <sbp> wouldn't be surprised if the total is in the millions
13:38:16 <KragenSitaker> the US murder rate is comparable
13:38:41 <sbp> 15,343 murderers found so far?
13:38:55 <sbp> oh, 1-in-10,000
13:39:06 <bjoern_> Well, if that is what it means, what does that mean? "Terror" does not imply fear, and fear does not imply terror.
13:39:58 <darobin> hmmm
13:40:22 <darobin> terror implies fear, attempting to strike fear through terrorism doesn't always succeed
13:40:23 <KragenSitaker> terror certainly does imply fear. it means nothing more nor less than intense fear.
13:40:42 <KragenSitaker> fear doesn't imply terror because sometimes it's not intense enough to be called terror.
13:40:52 <darobin> as in, say, FUD
13:41:01 <sbp> "apple, aquamarine, beryl, chartreuse, fir, forest, grass, jade, kelly, lime, malachite, moss, olive, pea, peacock, pine, sage, sap, sea, spinach, verdigris, vert, viridian, willow"
13:41:22 <darobin> green!
13:41:38 <sbp> malachite was a good one
13:41:45 <darobin> viridian
13:41:52 <darobin> straight out of star trek
13:41:58 <KragenSitaker> .ety viridian
13:41:58 <sbp> hehê
13:42:00 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "viridian". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=viridian
13:43:10 <darobin> From Latin viridis, green
13:43:11 <bjoern_> So, say, protection rackets should be filed as a terrorist incidents?
13:43:32 <KragenSitaker> terrorIST is a little different
13:43:40 <darobin> mmmm, that hardly follows bjoern_
13:43:57 <bjoern_> Well we were talking about the point of "terrorism"
13:44:17 <darobin> terror != terrorism
13:44:37 <darobin> taking me to see a horror flick isn't terrorism
13:44:45 <darobin> even though I'll be a whole lot more terrified
13:46:14 <KragenSitaker> there are several definitions of terrorism. there's the one in the US Code, but it is absurd; it arbitrarily excludes terrorist activities by states, even though the term was coined to describe the post-Revolution activities of the French government.
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13:48:03 <KragenSitaker> the FBI's definition is, "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."
13:49:02 <bjoern_> surely much of what you see in the mafia movies fits that definition...
13:49:07 <darobin> yeah
13:49:12 <KragenSitaker> but that's too broad; for example, it covers any law enforcement activity that involves force, unless it happens to be legal.
13:49:50 * sbp reads http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftravexas.kilu.de%2Findex.php%3Fcase%3Dircbot&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 with some amusement
13:51:05 <bjoern_> .gc "violence against property"
13:51:08 <phenny> "violence against property": 11,100
13:51:45 <KragenSitaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
13:53:23 <sbp> " 1. So nun habt ihr ertmal etwas Zeit mit den Commandos herumzuspielen. So now you tgp some time playing around with the Commandos."
13:53:28 <sbp> ...weird
13:53:36 <sbp> I didn't see the German bit
13:53:42 <sbp> I guess it might be display: none'd out
13:54:38 <bjoern_> it should be Kommandos of course...
13:55:13 <darobin> tgp?
13:55:24 <sbp> habt == tgp! isn't it obvious?
13:55:37 <darobin> suuuure
13:55:48 * bjoern_ would guess that should have been "got"
13:56:51 <bjoern_> phenny, "So, nun habt ihr erstmal etwas Zeit mit den Kommandos herumzuspielen"?
13:57:03 <phenny> bjoern_: "So, now have you first times something time with the commands to pass on" (de)
13:57:12 <bjoern_> ...
13:57:25 <sbp> you so do!
14:02:45 <KragenSitaker> this is a reasonable definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism#United_Nations
14:02:58 <KragenSitaker> [[[
14:03:01 <KragenSitaker> *
14:03:03 <KragenSitaker> Terrorism is an anxiety-inspiring method of repeated violent action, employed by (semi-) clandestine individual, group or state actors, for idiosyncratic, criminal or political reasons, whereby — in contrast to assassination — the direct targets of violence are not the main targets. The immediate human victims of violence are generally chosen randomly (targets of opportunity) or selectively (representative or symbolic targets) from a t
14:03:10 <KragenSitaker> oops
14:03:13 <KragenSitaker> ]]]
14:04:07 <KragenSitaker> trying again: [[[
14:04:11 <KragenSitaker> Terrorism is an anxiety-inspiring method of repeated violent action,
14:04:11 <KragenSitaker> employed by (semi-) clandestine individual, group or state actors, for
14:04:11 <KragenSitaker> idiosyncratic, criminal or political reasons, whereby --- in contrast
14:04:11 <KragenSitaker> to assassination --- the direct targets of violence are not the main
14:04:11 <KragenSitaker> targets. The immediate human victims of violence are generally chosen
14:04:14 <KragenSitaker> randomly (targets of opportunity) or selectively (representative or
14:04:16 <KragenSitaker> symbolic targets) from a target population, and serve as message
14:04:19 <KragenSitaker> generators. Threat- and violence-based communication processes between
14:04:21 <KragenSitaker> terrorist (organization), (imperilled) victims, and main targets are
14:04:24 <KragenSitaker> used to manipulate the main target (audience(s)), turning it into a
14:04:26 <KragenSitaker> target of terror, a target of demands, or a target of attention,
14:04:29 <KragenSitaker> depending on whether intimidation, coercion, or propaganda is
14:04:31 <KragenSitaker> primarily sought.
14:04:34 <KragenSitaker> ]]]
14:04:34 <bjoern_> News from Miss South Carolina Teen's home state: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Satirist_Stephen_Colbert_runs_for_U.S._President
14:05:23 <sbp> awesome
14:05:33 <KragenSitaker> This clearly describes the anti-abortion campaign, as well as the KKK's campaigns of years past against blacks, and the campaign of the Weather Underground in the US in the 1960s.
14:05:34 <sbp> Colbert for Prez
14:06:08 <perigrin> in south carolina
14:06:50 <perigrin> as Democrat, Republican, and favorite son
14:07:40 <bjoern_> Kang and Kodos agree: he cant lose
14:08:24 <perigrin> I'd vote for him over the current crop of candidates
14:08:59 <bjoern_> ud just do it for the lols!
14:09:25 <perigrin> lolpipz, would you vote for colbert?
14:09:26 <lolpipz> perigrin: I AM NOT SO SURE IF I WOULD LIEK T VOTE FUR COLBERT.
14:11:30 <bjoern_> .wik Truthiness
14:11:41 <phenny> "'Truthiness' is a satirical term created by U.S. television comedian Stephen Colbert to describe things that a person claims to know intuitively or 'from the gut' without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.[1]| Colbert popularized this [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
14:12:21 <bjoern_> .wik plutoed
14:12:24 <phenny> "'Plutoed' is a neologism chosen as the 2006 Word of the Year by the American Dialect Society." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutoed
14:13:28 <bjoern_> "1990: bushlips (similar to "bullshit" – stemming from President George H.W. Bush's 1988 "Read my lips: no new taxes" broken promise)"
14:14:34 <bjoern_> '''macaca - "an American citizen treated as an alien"'''
14:20:38 <bjoern_> nice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness#Origin_of_the_term
14:25:27 <bjoern_> .title http://www.lssu.edu/banished/current.php
14:25:35 <phenny> bjoern_: Lake Superior State University :: Banished Words List :: 2007
14:26:33 <bjoern_> "It's so annoying, idiotic and so lame and pathetic that it's 'lamethetic.'"
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14:28:37 <bjoern_> "NOW PLAYING IN THEATERS -- Heard in movie advertisements. Where can we see that, again? "How often do movies premiere in laundromats or other places besides theaters? I know that when I want to see a movie I think about going to a shoe store." -- Andrea May, Shreveport, Louisiana."
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14:29:23 <bjoern_> "UNDOCUMENTED ALIEN -- "If they haven't followed the law to get here, they are by definition 'illegal.' It's like saying a drug dealer is an 'undocumented pharmacist.'" -- John Varga, Westfield, New Jersey."
14:29:31 * Arnia sighs
14:29:33 <Arnia> University connection isn't much better...
14:29:41 <sbp> indeedz
14:29:47 <bjoern_> ur now on wlan!
14:30:01 <sbp> sounds like it might be in Wales
14:30:13 <Arnia> oolan!
14:30:21 <bjoern_> You just want to change the 2:1 result from last time...
14:32:52 <bjoern_> "HEALTHY FOOD -- Point of view is everything. Someone told Joy Wiltzius of Fort Collins, Colorado, that the tuna steak she had for lunch "sounded healthy." Her reply: "If my lunch were healthy, it would still be swimming somewhere. Grilled and nestled in salad greens, it's 'healthful.'""
14:33:14 <sbp> so, is Todd dead now?
14:33:45 <sbp> phenny: tell perigrin 'Achewood wins the 2007 Ignatz Award for "Outstanding Online Comic."'
14:33:57 <perigrin> :)
14:33:59 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when perigrin is around.
14:34:10 <phenny> perigrin: 14:46Z <sbp> tell perigrin 'Achewood wins the 2007 Ignatz Award for "Outstanding Online Comic."'
14:34:12 <jsled> Well, shit, his head asplode.
14:34:34 <jsled> It could be an awesome visual effect for the show, though.
14:34:49 <jsled> Though I don't remember old-school SNL exploding people's heads. Maybe Fridays did that.
14:34:59 <jsled> .wik Fridays (tv show)
14:35:06 * jsled guesses
14:35:08 <phenny> "Friday Night Lights is an award-winning American television serial drama adapted by Peter Berg, Brian Grazer and David Nevins from a book of the same name." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_Night_Lights_(TV_series)
14:35:12 <jsled> BAH.
14:35:33 <jsled> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fridays_%28ABC_TV_Series%29
14:36:30 <sbp> "Forbes is reporting that despite Radiohead giving their latest album away 'for free', more copies of the album were pirated than downloaded from their site. Commentators offered up the opinion that this was probably more out of habit than malice."
14:36:32 <sbp> - http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/17/2032246.shtml
14:36:43 <sbp> jsled: plus it's not like Beef and Molly and Ray haven't died and come back
14:36:54 <bjoern_> "J.F.K. Workers Moved Drugs, Authorities Say" - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/nyregion/17jfk.html
14:37:02 <sbp> hell might just spit Todd right back out
14:37:06 <jsled> heh
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14:41:52 <sbp> .gc "I was... ah... looking for Satan's penis!"
14:42:00 <phenny> "I was... ah... looking for Satan's penis!": 2
14:53:00 <sbp> .title http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/
14:53:11 <phenny> sbp: Official Documents
14:54:23 <perigrin> sbp, accurate and pointless everything you'd expect from a .gov website
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14:58:32 <glen_quagmire> from a laptop, I can wget some files on the internet. but i can't ping the same server??
14:58:39 <bjoern_> .compare "inofficial documents" "official documents"
14:58:43 <glen_quagmire> it seems only wget works. ping, ssh don't work
14:58:56 <jsled> glen_quagmire: many sites/routers block ICMP traffic.
14:58:57 <phenny> "official documents" (4,610,000), "inofficial documents" (29)
14:58:59 <sbp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_enl_1192704469/html/1.stm
14:59:00 <bjoern_> it may block pings and have no sshd
14:59:44 <glen_quagmire> jsled: no i can ping google.com on desktop. but not on my laptop
14:59:48 <sbp> [[[
14:59:48 <sbp> The Vatican was last night at the centre of an unusually public sex scandal after acknowledging it had suspended a senior official who was filmed apparently propositioning a young man in his office.
14:59:48 <sbp> Monsignor Tommaso Stenico, a capo ufficio, or section head, at the Vatican ministry responsible for the clergy, insisted yesterday he was not gay. He said he had posed as a homosexual to research a plot by satanists.
14:59:48 <bjoern_> spacedog
14:59:52 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,,2191311,00.html
15:00:02 <glen_quagmire> the laptop only makes me do wget google.com/index.html
15:00:14 <glen_quagmire> ssh, ftp... all f*cked up
15:00:33 <glen_quagmire> i don't have iptables on the laptop yet. it's just a fresh install
15:01:15 <sbp> .title http://www.neatorama.com/2007/10/13/the-swastikas-hockey-team/
15:01:17 <phenny> sbp: Neatorama » Blog Archive » The Swastikas Hockey Team
15:01:23 <sbp> er, yeah. didn't really need .title there
15:01:26 <sbp> starting to become a habit
15:01:35 <bjoern_> terrible, is it not
15:01:56 <crschmidt> You could just make phenny automatically run .title on all links! oh wait, no
15:02:08 <bjoern_> xcactly
15:03:45 <sbp> "Crucially, four out of 10 child victims are killed by a parent."
15:03:47 <sbp> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm
15:06:04 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7050714.stm
15:06:08 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
15:06:50 <sbp> quick! http://www.met.fu-berlin.de/adopt-a-vortex/ !
15:07:40 <sbp> [[[
15:07:40 <sbp> High 299,-- Euro
15:07:40 <sbp> Low 199,-- Euro
15:07:46 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.met.fu-berlin.de/adopt-a-vortex/preise/
15:08:23 <sbp> Google is female, according to http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/Scripture/Proof_Google_Is_God.html
15:09:01 <sbp> phenny: tell d8uv pezmods! http://www.atypyk.com/pez/pez1.html
15:09:03 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around.
15:09:38 <bjoern_> '''"So etwas hätte es zu meiner Zeit auch schon geben müssen!" - Albrecht, Nürnberg'''
15:10:08 <sbp> hmm @ http://www.freerice.com/
15:10:12 <bjoern_> .swhack thechurchofgoogle
15:10:43 <bjoern_> oh not about condo eliza
15:11:54 <phenny> bjoern_: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-09-24#T16-45-50
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15:15:31 <sbp> .title http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
15:15:36 <phenny> sbp: Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners - Independent Online Edition > Science & Tech
15:15:38 <sbp> bjoern_: ô, whoops
15:21:39 <sbp> .title http://www.wired.com/cars/coolwheels/magazine/15-11/ff_cannonballrun
15:21:42 <phenny> sbp: The Pedal-to-the-Metal, Totally Illegal, Cross-Country Sprint for Glory
15:22:04 <laplink> .compare Google God Jesus Allah Buddha
15:22:07 <phenny> laplink: 17 Oct 13:59Z <bjoern_> tell laplink http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/101607-cisco-brazil-arrests.html
15:22:08 <phenny> Google (1,310,000,000), God (418,000,000), Jesus (146,000,000), Allah (53,400,000), Buddha (26,500,000)
15:26:54 <KragenSitaker> victims of what? Murder?
15:27:13 <KragenSitaker> .compare krishna krsna satya sathya jesus
15:27:16 <phenny> jesus (146,000,000), krishna (14,800,000), satya (2,910,000), sathya (938,000), krsna (685,000)
15:27:33 <KragenSitaker> satya sai baba is not so popular
15:30:11 <laplink> .title should take a title as an argument and spit out the URL instead.
15:30:13 <phenny> Can't connect to should
15:30:26 <laplink> That's not a valid URL phenny.
15:32:00 <KragenSitaker> that's called .g
15:32:10 <KragenSitaker> .title http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/
15:32:13 <phenny> KragenSitaker: Kragen Javier Sitaker's home
15:32:19 <KragenSitaker> .g "Kragen Javier Sitaker's home"
15:32:21 <phenny> KragenSitaker: http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/
15:32:22 <crschmidt> .g XML.com: Should Atom Use RDF?
15:32:25 <phenny> crschmidt: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/08/20/dive.html
15:32:47 <laplink> .g fuck
15:32:50 <phenny> laplink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
15:33:00 <laplink> Wow, you can even replace .wik.
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15:33:14 <KragenSitaker> sometimes. sometimes the results are different
15:33:17 <KragenSitaker> .g scientology
15:33:19 <phenny> KragenSitaker: http://www.scientology.org/
15:33:19 <KragenSitaker> .wik scientology
15:33:22 <phenny> "Scientology is a body of beliefs and related practices created by American pulp fiction author L. Ron Hubbard in 1952 as an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system, Dianetics.[1]| Hubbard later characterized Scientology as an 'applied religious philosophy' and the [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
15:38:29 <bjoern_> countdown
15:38:30 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 2, 6, 7, 8, 7. Your target is 741. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
15:38:42 <bjoern_> calc (100+6)*7
15:38:42 <Monty> bjoern_: 742
15:38:49 <JibberJim> 8-7
15:38:50 <bjoern_> calc (100+6)*7 - 8 + 7
15:38:51 <Monty> bjoern_: 741
15:38:51 <JibberJim> for the other 1
15:38:59 <Jabberwock> Scientology is insane.
15:39:00 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
15:39:01 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 10 milliseconds. I found all 140 solutions in about 193 milliseconds.
15:39:03 <Monty> ibot (100 + 7)*7 - 8
15:41:11 <Jabberwock> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2006/04/tom_cruises_pla.html
15:41:16 <Jabberwock> There's what scientology does for you.
15:41:20 * Jabberwock wants on that bandwagon
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15:46:59 * Arnia nukes Jabberwock
15:49:50 <Jabberwock> Arnia: I'm not your placenta!!
15:50:16 <Arnia> Why not?
15:50:55 <Jabberwock> Probably because you don't have one. Otherwise I would've been all for it.
15:51:12 <Arnia> May I manifest your destiny?
15:51:34 * Arnia stabs a monkey
15:51:34 <Arnia> There you go.
15:54:24 <Jabberwock> Afraid not!
15:54:53 <Jabberwock> And damn you, you stinkin brit! I needed that monkey for my illegal monkey knife fight operation
15:55:26 <crschmidt> Monkey.
15:55:51 <Jabberwock> *sigh* Now I have to get a new monkey.
16:00:21 <bjoern_> .seen dark
16:00:24 <phenny> bjoern_: I last saw dark at 2007-10-17 13:35:54 UTC on #swhack
16:00:33 <Arnia> .seen light
16:00:35 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen light around.
16:00:45 <Arnia> .seen the unbearable lightness of being
16:00:48 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen the around.
16:00:53 <Jabberwock> /nick light
16:01:51 <Jabberwock> .seen my_monkey
16:01:53 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen my_monkey around.
16:02:03 <Jabberwock> That's because someone killed it.
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16:15:14 <KragenSitaker> .seen square
16:15:22 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen square around.
16:15:25 <KragenSitaker> .seen pi
16:15:27 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen pi around.
16:15:51 <KragenSitaker> .seen round
16:15:53 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen round around.
16:15:58 <KragenSitaker> .seen merrygo
16:16:00 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen merrygo around.
16:16:16 <KragenSitaker> .seen around-and
16:16:23 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen around-and around.
16:17:34 <Talliesin> .seen turn
16:17:36 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen turn around.
16:18:12 <Jabberwock> phenny: are you lonely?
16:19:00 <Talliesin> .seen I get around round round round I get
16:19:02 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen i around.
16:19:05 <Talliesin> :(
16:21:23 <sbp> '"Three quarters of migrants come from the rest of the world."'
16:21:25 <sbp> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7048205.stm
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16:26:10 <perigrin> dahut, you awake?
16:26:16 <dahut> perigrin: Thanks for the information: said I awake.
16:26:24 <perigrin> hmm interesting
16:27:40 <KragenSitaker> Talliesin: you can hyphenate
16:27:47 <KragenSitaker> .seen I-get-around-round-round-round-I-get
16:27:49 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen i-get-around-round-round-round-i-get around.
16:27:53 <sbp> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lv0-ftyMKE
16:27:56 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Verstehen Sie Spass? - Unsichtbar / Invisible
16:27:56 <sbp> - ahahahaha
16:28:02 <KragenSitaker> What does that mean?
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16:30:30 <sbp> http://www.meangene.com/google/google1.html is pretty good
16:30:41 <sbp> KragenSitaker: no idea. you don't need to know the language to understand the clip though
16:30:55 <KragenSitaker> sbp: one of these days I'll build Gnash
16:33:00 <sbp> phenny: tell d8uv http://www.env.go.jp/en/focus/attach/060403-5.gif - wrapz!
16:33:02 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around.
16:33:04 <sbp> .wik Gnash
16:33:06 <phenny> "Gnash is a project which aims to create a player and browser plugin for the Adobe Flash file format which is free software, replacing the proprietary software niche currently occupied by Adobe Flash Player." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
16:33:12 <KragenSitaker> i saw that "google as designed to try to spam google" page
16:33:42 <sbp> I like the design of the progression
16:33:54 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Verstehen Sie Spass"?
16:34:19 <phenny> bjoern_: "Understand fun" (de)
16:35:25 <sbp> [[[
16:35:26 <sbp> They may be polar opposites politically but US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Democratic candidate Barack Obama are related, Mr Cheney's wife says.
16:35:26 <sbp> Lynne Cheney said she had discovered while doing family research for a new book that her husband and the Illinois senator were eighth cousins.
16:35:32 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7048325.stm
16:36:05 <sbp> hahahaha
16:36:10 <sbp> 'Mr Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, responded to the news by saying: "Every family has a black sheep."'
16:38:44 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7040000/newsid_7048700/7048772.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1
16:38:47 <phenny> sbp: BBC News Player - Woman's lucky escape on tracks
16:38:56 <bjoern_> One of the victims above concludes she's from a different planet, though she hadn't realized that so far.
16:39:51 <perigrin> eight cousins? does that even count anymore?
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16:48:06 * sbp watches all of C'était un Rendez-vous for the first time... wow
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17:00:03 <perigrin> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_02/blueangles2_800x444.jpg
17:00:06 <perigrin> that's low
17:04:16 <KragenSitaker> it is. the blue angels periodically have accidents.
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17:09:09 *** darobin changed the topic to: "He said he had posed as a homosexual to research a plot by satanists."
17:12:12 <bancus> We aren't plotting a damned thing.
17:12:14 <bancus> Whoops.
17:12:14 <bancus> >_>
17:12:43 <bancus> Well, there went those political ambitions.
17:12:52 <bancus> I guess I'll have to go for rock star, now.
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17:29:25 <laplink> .title http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071017/wl_uk_afp/britainemploymentlanguageoffbeat
17:29:28 <phenny> laplink: Swearing at work boosts team spirt, morale: research - Yahoo! News
17:29:59 <danja> try this again...
17:30:13 <danja> impressive use of Facebook - earlier:
17:30:29 <danja> "Robin Berjon added the Say-it-with-Flowers application"
17:30:33 <danja> just:
17:30:48 <danja> "Robin Berjon went from being "single" to "in a relationship""
17:31:05 <laplink> heh heh
17:31:08 <darobin> danja: anything specific you're wondering about?
17:31:48 <danja> zombie or vampire..?
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17:33:24 <darobin> that's not how that one worked out :)
17:34:19 * danja struggling to see the "Design & Utopie" connection...
17:37:18 <sbp> "Because I love cinema more than the law ... I knew I wanted a piece of bravery." - http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesfilms13.com%2Fdea_a_z%2Fnews%2Fnews87.htm&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
17:38:38 <darobin> danja: hmmm, you're close though
17:39:02 <sbp> zombpire? vampbie?
17:39:44 <darobin> .g "design et utopie" irène
17:39:47 <phenny> darobin:
