00:02:22 <thelsdj> "Sexual Deliberation is the greatest civil-liberties movement of modern times."
00:03:42 <thelsdj> .gc sexual-deliberation
00:03:44 <phenny> sexual-deliberation: 29
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00:06:37 <jinzo> will you guys be angry if I test phenny a lil bit ? :P
00:06:48 <jinzo> .calc 3 * 2 + 5
00:06:51 <phenny> (3 * 2) + 5 = 11
00:07:12 <jinzo> .seen jinzo
00:07:14 <phenny> jinzo: I last saw jinzo at 2007-11-04 00:33:30 UTC on #swhack
00:07:45 <jinzo> .val http://inamidst.com/phenny/
00:07:48 <phenny> http://inamidst.com/phenny/ is Invalid (4 errors)
00:08:33 <thelsdj> .calc e^(pi*i)
00:08:35 <phenny> e^(pi * i) = -1
00:09:16 <jinzo> how far is the phenny configurable/modular ?
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00:58:06 <therethinker> Heh... I don't know if anyone remembers that idea I was throwing around a while back -- something like 2nd Life but with death -- leading to a more realistic representation of the world
00:58:52 <thelsdj> do you try to limit only one character ever for a person?
00:59:09 <therethinker> Yeah
01:00:06 <therethinker> But anyway -- I've found a friend who's got a knack for C++, and is willing to try to at least start something, so I started to put more thought into it
01:00:42 <thelsdj> wait a while and second life server will be open source
01:01:10 <therethinker> I was trying to think of ways to let people do more -- even if they aren't implemented, they're interesting ideas
01:02:05 <therethinker> Euh -- I wouldn't want to use their code for a number of reasons: The most prevalent is I'd probably have to share my modifications -- which would spoil some *things* if anyone actually looked at it ;-)
01:02:33 <Arnia> therethinker: you wouldn't have to share if you don't distribute
01:02:49 <Arnia> (i.e. if you only keep your own agent)
01:03:04 <Arnia> (or whatever they're calling them)
01:03:09 <Arnia> (and depending on the licence)
01:03:10 <therethinker> What do you mean, keep my own agent...
01:03:21 <therethinker> Well yeah, but I'd bet you they would release it under GPL or something
01:03:27 <Arnia> therethinker: read the proposed open architecture
01:04:04 <thelsdj> you can most likely create proprietary 'rules' while still sharing modifications to the core server
01:04:05 <Arnia> therethinker: the GPL only requires source distribution with binary distribution. If you simply run your own agency then you're under no obligation to share the source
01:04:33 <thelsdj> yea if the secret stuff is only in the server, you don't have to share any changes to the server
01:04:33 <therethinker> Oooohh
01:05:01 <Arnia> thelsdj: well, the proposed architecture I saw would contain proprietary extensions in third party servers. You'd only have to distribute source if you distribute the binary version of your server
01:05:14 <Arnia> which you just said
01:05:30 <Arnia> Apologies, was a friend's 21st tonight and I'm tipsy and tired
01:05:47 <therethinker> I'm still not sure if I'd want to do that, anyway, for some other reasons
01:06:36 <therethinker> Anyway -- it'd be possible to re-create chemistry
01:07:07 <thelsdj> mmm alchemy
01:07:09 <therethinker> Using a system of rules, you could have x elements, able to mix in certain ways (as defined by rules) , and get a compound (defined by rules)
01:07:37 <therethinker> I realized this would actually make *less* work for me :P
01:07:40 <Arnia> therethinker: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Source_Portal
01:07:48 <therethinker> Yeah, I've seen it
01:07:51 <Arnia> therethinker: please see chemical computation
01:08:01 <Arnia> .g chemical metaphor computation GAMMA
01:08:04 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/csb/prj/organic/
01:08:27 <Arnia> .g chemical gamma
01:08:29 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/ghb.pdf
01:08:32 <Arnia> hm
01:08:34 <Arnia> no
01:08:47 <therethinker> Err
01:08:47 <Arnia> .g gamma calculus
01:08:49 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.gridworkflow.org/snips/gridworkflow/space/Gamma-calculus
01:08:53 <Arnia> ...
01:08:57 * Arnia gives up
01:09:06 <Arnia> I'll find you a proper citation later
01:10:05 <therethinker> Anyway -- it'd probably initially have extremely basic rules, but later servers would be more complex
01:10:51 <Arnia> Beware the curse of dimensionality
01:10:54 <thelsdj> mmmm grey goo
01:11:05 <therethinker> hehe
01:12:41 <Arnia> thelsdj: I'm more worried about the gay pink stuff
01:17:35 <Arnia> Wonder how hard it would be to get these working in QC
01:17:36 <Arnia> http://developer.download.nvidia.com/shaderlibrary/webpages/shader_library.html
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03:22:00 <procto> is anyone extracting FOAF using OpenSocial yet?
03:23:02 <procto> opensocias is a step in the right direction
03:23:27 <procto> but if right is north, and googre is west, this is a step to WNW
03:23:33 <procto> google*
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07:06:27 <thelsdj> everyone get their childsplay charity giving on! http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
07:07:03 <crschmidt> happy time change
07:07:50 <thelsdj> yea i have to work through it
07:07:59 <crschmidt> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/?zoom=18&lat=46.59114&lon=-112.03027&layers=B
07:08:03 <crschmidt> landsat data on the right
07:08:17 <crschmidt> City of helena 6in/px aerial imagery on the left
07:08:37 <crschmidt> see also:
07:08:38 <crschmidt> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/lite.html?zoom=20&lat=46.60312&lon=-112.05934&layers=B vs. http://maps.google.com/?q=46.60316,-112.05957
07:08:53 <crschmidt> er
07:09:03 <crschmidt> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/?zoom=20&lat=46.60312&lon=-112.05934&layers=B
07:09:54 <thelsdj> whats with the missing data in that second url?
07:10:09 <thelsdj> oh reload got it
07:10:14 <thelsdj> maybe my browser was overloading server
07:10:32 <crschmidt> well, browsers only load a couple things at a time from a server
07:10:39 <crschmidt> I don't have caching or multi-hostname stuff set up yet
07:11:15 <crschmidt> http://maps.google.com/?ll=46.603159,-112.059571&spn=0.000923,0.002452&t=k&z=19&om=1 is the gmaps link i meant
07:11:21 <thelsdj> well unless you have fasterfox enabled or something
07:11:35 <thelsdj> where i've found it sometimes overloads servers and you get broken images
07:11:45 <thelsdj> but i don't think i have it turned on
07:13:47 <crschmidt> considering each of those tiles is loading a chunk of data out of a 2GB .tiff file, 'm pretty impressed with the load speed :)
07:15:52 <thelsdj> it tends to keep broken images rather than trying to reload them when they go on/off screen so only way to fix seems a full reload
07:17:30 <thelsdj> what is the cause of the weird colored artifacts?
07:18:34 <crschmidt> bugs in gdal
07:18:51 <thelsdj> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/?zoom=19&lat=46.63341&lon=-112.04721&layers=B
07:18:57 <thelsdj> hehe dissapearing road
07:19:42 <crschmidt> weird
07:19:47 <thelsdj> its like those shuffle tile games
07:19:57 <thelsdj> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/?zoom=17&lat=46.63341&lon=-112.04721&layers=B
07:21:03 <crschmidt> might be a corrupt image
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07:48:42 <sbp> ㋡
07:49:11 <bjoern_> Genf
07:51:18 * thelsdj twiddles thumbs and waits for time change
07:51:43 <sbp> .t PDT
07:51:46 <phenny> Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:18:39 PDT
07:51:47 <sbp> .t MST
07:51:49 <phenny> Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:18:43 MST
07:51:56 <sbp> .t MDT
07:51:58 <phenny> Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:18:52 MDT
07:52:01 <sbp> .t OMG
07:52:04 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, I don't know about the 'OMG' timezone.
07:52:10 <sbp> WTF
07:52:21 <bjoern_> .weather LOLG
07:52:24 <phenny> LOLG: no such ICAO code
07:52:37 <sbp> so indeed hellos for I am speaking on the IRCs
07:52:39 <thelsdj> .weather kchd
07:52:42 <phenny> Clear ☼, 77.0℉ (25℃), 29.99in (1012mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KCHD 18:47, 0147Z
07:52:46 <bjoern_> .weather LOLF
07:52:48 <sbp> what is the proverbial up?
07:52:49 <phenny> LOLF: no data provided
07:52:57 <sbp> of course it's a Sunday so the answer is: nothing interesting
07:53:07 <thelsdj> lets see what this paper on my desk says
07:53:12 <sbp> 'k, good idea
07:53:23 <bjoern_> @wunder Freistadt
07:53:24 <supybot> bjoern_: The current temperature in Obersonnberg, Sonnberg, Austria is 40.1°F (9:19 AM CET on November 04, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Steady).
07:53:32 <thelsdj> sqrt(3x^2) * sqrt(12x) = 6x * sqrt(x)
07:53:35 <sbp> chilly
07:53:36 <bjoern_> so why's there no data?
07:53:44 <sbp> iuno
07:53:50 <sbp> sure it's LOLF?
07:54:19 <bjoern_> well http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=pass&pass=icao_desc&icao=lolf&dpp=1
07:54:38 <sbp> .weather LOWL
07:54:41 <phenny> Cloudy, 9℃, 1021mb, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - LOWL 8:50, 0750Z
07:54:49 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linz_Airport is closest to Obersonnberg according to Google
07:54:54 <sbp> which is LOWL
07:55:30 <sbp> LOLF is probably just another Austrian invention
07:55:30 <bjoern_> http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=zandh&pands=LOLF also has little data
07:56:05 <bjoern_> [04 Aug 07 12:16] * bjoern_ * .weather LOLF
07:56:05 <bjoern_> [04 Aug 07 12:16] * phenny * LOLF at 12:00 (10:00Z): Scattered, 18℃, ?, Light air 2kt (↻)
07:56:08 <sbp> ah get mah infoermation from the NOAA, hhee-uck
07:56:19 <sbp> huh, freaksy
07:56:27 <bjoern_> u and ur us sources
07:56:34 <sbp> .head http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/LOLF.TXT
07:56:36 <phenny> Status: 200 (for more, try ".head uri header")
07:56:39 <sbp> huh
07:56:46 <sbp> .web http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/LOLF.TXT
07:56:48 <phenny> sbp: "2007/11/04 08:00 LOLF 040800Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN030CU BKN"
07:57:04 <sbp> well there's no temperature in there for a start
07:57:08 <sbp> might be what's doing it
07:57:12 <bjoern_> u haz a bugz
07:57:18 <sbp> NOAA haz bugz@
07:57:27 <sbp> from NOAA import bugz
07:57:36 <bjoern_> sbp bugz
07:57:43 <sbp> NO NOAA
07:57:53 <bjoern_> no no = yes
07:58:05 <sbp> yeah, yeah = NO. AAAAAAAA
07:58:28 <sbp> I wonder if asaasaf can help. who's asaasaf?
07:58:32 <sbp> asaasaf: who are you?
07:59:09 <bjoern_> "Registered: 11 hours 6 minutes 20 seconds ago"
07:59:40 <sbp> hmm, suspicious
07:59:45 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://weekendstubble.blogspot.com/2007/11/books-my-ass.html
07:59:47 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when morbus is around.
08:00:15 <bjoern_> from .br it would seem
08:00:36 <bjoern_> .wik Recife
08:00:39 <phenny> "Recife (pronunciation (help·info) IPA: [he'sifi]) (Portuguese for reef), 2005 population 1.515.052 (3.646.204 in the metropolitan area) is the second largest city in the Northeastern Region of Brazil, the largest metropolitan area and one of the most important [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recife
08:01:20 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Sherry Toulon: I really do have no limits but I will not do poo"
08:02:08 <bjoern_> .wik Sherry Toulon
08:02:11 <phenny> "Year 1942 (MCMXLII) was a common year starting on Thursday (the link will display the full 1942 calendar) of the Gregorian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942
08:03:04 <sbp> there you go
08:03:14 <sbp> it's from Second Second, d8uv's SL weblog
08:03:34 <sbp> .head http://bytelevel.com/map/ccTLD.html
08:03:41 <sbp> HEAD
08:03:51 <sbp> : : : ( ( (
08:03:58 <sbp> well at least it's not my connection this time
08:04:16 <sbp> oh! Flugplatz is airfield!
08:04:23 <sbp> I know that from the Nurburgring
08:05:34 <sbp> I still can't believe they dropped Hockenheim
08:06:45 <bjoern_> send them angry hate mail!
08:06:46 <phenny> Can't connect to http://bytelevel.com/map/ccTLD.html
08:17:30 <sbp> http://www.fia.com/global/contacts.html
08:17:35 <sbp> I'd have to phone them or write to them
08:20:06 <bjoern_> Yes, mail, as I said
08:20:14 <sbp> oh right
08:20:25 <sbp> I map {'mail': 'email'} quite often these days
08:20:36 <bjoern_> u haz bugz
08:20:40 <sbp> and {'snail mail': 'mail'}, but don't double map!
08:20:42 <sbp> NO NOAA
08:23:46 <perigrin> NOAA has quite "excess flood"
08:24:09 <bjoern_> NO, U !
08:24:23 <perigrin> NO, I!
08:24:50 <perigrin> actually NO E
08:24:58 <perigrin> NOAA has quit "excess flood"
08:25:01 <bjoern_> OH NOES
08:27:03 <sbp> : : : ( ( (
08:27:18 <bjoern_> ㋡
08:27:33 <bjoern_> THERE FULL CIRCLE
08:29:32 <perigrin> (¡) There full Monty!
08:29:32 <Monty> blech
08:30:03 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Blech"?
08:30:07 <phenny> bjoern_: "Sheet metal" (de)
08:37:30 <sbp> Monty: WHERE IS LOLPIPZ?!
08:37:31 <Monty> 390x356 :( )
08:37:38 <sbp> 'k
08:39:03 <sbp> so much lolling at u Monty
08:39:05 <Monty> fauxident: 1,040
08:39:16 * sbp tarts up http://inamidst.com/sw/hturtle/example a bit
09:14:06 <thelsdj> you know whats wrong with #swhack?
09:14:12 <sbp> not enough monkeys
09:14:27 <thelsdj> i was going to say not enough alcoholics and drug addicts, but yea, more monkeys would be nice
09:14:43 <sbp> then we could dress them up and hold Civil War recreations with them!
09:14:55 <sbp> Roundheads vs. Confederates
09:15:04 <thelsdj> would that make us civil war BUFFs?
09:15:04 <sbp> Civil War mashup
09:15:14 <sbp> it would certainly GET SOME BUFF IN US
09:15:41 <thelsdj> ya
09:16:00 <perigrin> lolpipz, where is MONTY?
09:16:02 <Monty> hustling magnified FVWM is ladylike innocent chicane!
09:16:03 <lolpipz> perigrin: WHERE IT BELONGZ. I WILL SEARCH 4 IT.
09:16:12 <thelsdj> mmm chicane
09:17:39 <thelsdj> i think this anime studio's sole purpose is to make silly dance themes
09:20:13 <perigrin> s/this/an/
09:20:28 <perigrin> this showing how Studio Ghibli is actually a horrible failure
09:21:03 <perigrin> er "thus"
09:22:11 <thelsdj> the haruhi and lucky star dances are awesome
09:22:35 <thelsdj> was great that they were done by same studio, so they could make fun of haruhi in lucky star
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09:32:15 <nsh> .whois anl.gov
09:33:53 <sbp> THERE IS NO WHOIS
09:33:56 <sbp> @whois anl.gov
09:33:58 <supybot> sbp: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois".
09:34:03 <sbp> @internet whois anl.gov
09:34:24 <supybot> sbp: Error: timed out
09:34:43 <nsh> @internet whois agent2005.anl.gov
09:34:43 <supybot> nsh: Error: <domain> must be a domain, not a hostname.
09:34:50 <sbp> <3
09:35:41 <thelsdj> @internet whois shitrude.com
09:35:46 <supybot> thelsdj: shitrude.com <registered at godaddy.com> is clientrenewprohibited, registered 12-sep-2007, updated 12-sep-2007, and expires 12-sep-2009.
09:35:49 <nsh> .wik Argonne national laboratory
09:35:53 <phenny> "Argonne National Laboratory is one of the United States Department of Energy's oldest and largest science and engineering research national laboratories and is the largest in the Midwest, about twice as large as the nearby Fermilab." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argonne_National_Laboratory
09:37:26 * nsh hmms
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09:39:54 * sbp writes up http://inamidst.com/sw/hturtle/
09:40:03 <sbp> nnm: hello
09:40:11 <nnm> sbp: sup
09:41:42 <sbp> schnizzle and stuff
09:41:44 <sbp> welcome to Swhack!
09:42:00 <sbp> this is a publically logged channel, so please be careful not to destroy your future potential political career, &c.
09:43:00 <perigrin> schnizel?
09:43:07 <perigrin> er schnitzel rather?
09:43:19 <nnm> sbp: thnx
09:43:23 * nsh could murder a schnitzel
09:43:33 <nsh> .gc ogivity
09:43:33 * sbp sees from Google that nnm gets around on #apache, #security, and #lisp etc.--all the likely suspects
09:43:35 <phenny> ogivity: 2
09:44:03 <nnm> no u didn't :P
09:44:19 <nsh> "n'ut uh!"
09:44:38 <perigrin> hmm
09:44:50 <perigrin> I'm feeling like I have too long a nick
09:45:06 *** perigrin is now known as pri
09:45:07 <sbp> u didn't what?
09:45:14 <sbp> pri: nooOooo!
09:45:18 *** pri is now known as perigrin
09:45:24 <sbp> yeeeEesss!
09:45:42 <perigrin> was owned
09:45:50 <perigrin> I didn't want to get pwned
09:46:12 <nsh> i have some poor aquaintances that are already past getting qwned
09:46:26 <perigrin> all the way to rwned?
09:46:37 <nsh> if we can't get them help, i guess so :-/
09:46:59 * perigrin is getting pretty rwned these days ... needs to exercise more.
09:47:06 <sbp> RẄND
09:47:26 <perigrin> and stop going out on the twn
09:47:27 <nsh> CORPORATION
09:47:50 * nsh needs to stop inhaling fwms
09:48:11 <perigrin> .compare corporation corpsoration [rotting corpsoration]
09:48:14 <phenny> corporation (395,000,000), corpsoration (90), rotting corpsoration (1)
09:48:35 <perigrin> .gc rotting corpsoration
09:48:37 <phenny> rotting corpsoration: 1
09:48:41 <perigrin> *sigh*
09:48:45 <perigrin> .g rotting corpsoration
09:48:48 <phenny> perigrin: http://www.markprindle.com/cannibal.htm
09:48:48 <nsh> .wik Von Karman Ogive
09:48:51 <phenny> "Given the problem of the aerodynamic design of the nose cone section of any vehicle meant to travel through a compressible fluid medium (such as a rocket or aircraft), the main problem at hand is the determination of the nose cone geometrical shape." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_cone_design
09:49:33 <nsh> .gc corpsification
09:49:35 <phenny> corpsification: 453
09:49:42 <nsh> .gc corpsify
09:49:45 <phenny> corpsify: 398
09:49:54 <nsh> .gc corpsifier
09:49:57 <phenny> corpsifier: 22
09:50:11 <perigrin> "For some reason, the Corpses came away from The Bleeding with the idea that they should promote this asinine, unpleasant contrivance (along with the 'false harmonic') to Vice President, Songwriting Division, Cannibal Corpsoration (NYSE: ARRRRH!). In the process, they ruined not just one potentially classic death metal record, but several!"
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09:50:22 <bjoern_> NNM STATE UR PURPOSE
09:50:26 <perigrin> I'm pretty sure that's not a valid ticker.
09:50:33 <bjoern_> YES IT IS
09:50:46 <perigrin> NO U !
09:50:49 <nsh> PAK CHOOIE UNF!
09:51:09 <nnm> bjoern_: um, I do java
09:51:51 <nsh> .ety ogee
09:51:53 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "ogee". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=ogee
09:51:58 <nsh> .ety ogive
09:52:01 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "ogive". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=ogive
09:52:16 <bjoern_> OMG NNM DOES JAVA
09:52:21 <bjoern_> what has this channel become
09:52:38 <nnm> :)
09:52:44 <perigrin> he could be talking about the drink!
09:52:48 <perigrin> or the island nation
09:52:48 <nsh> "An ogee is a style of sleeve, in particular on a gown; the term is not widely used, and may not be used at all outside the University of London."
09:52:55 <perigrin> or the breed of tiger
09:53:17 <perigrin> nsh, you mean on a gwn
09:53:39 <nsh> YA SRY
09:54:17 <perigrin> lolpipz, you've done Java right? Was it while wearing an ogee?
09:54:17 <lolpipz> perigrin: NO I DONT HAVE IT. BUT I DO HAVE COLLECSHUN OF GOSSIP. ASK AGAIN LATR. ASK MONTY IF IT AR TEH.
09:54:17 <Monty> wfm
09:54:39 <perigrin> Monty, you've done Java while wearing an ogee?
09:54:40 <Monty> touches keypresses!
09:54:43 * nsh ungags monty
09:54:44 <Monty> dinner at 2007-10-08 00:40:02, saying something from Europe to about her. It's definitely beat the work unless you around?
09:54:58 <nsh> It's definitely beat the work day
09:55:14 <perigrin> arwnd
09:55:54 <nsh> .ety cymatic
09:55:57 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "cymatic". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=cymatic
09:56:11 <nsh> .ety cymatics
09:56:14 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "cymatics". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=cymatics
09:56:38 <nsh> .ety sibilant
09:56:41 <phenny> "1669, from L. sibilantem (nom. sibilans), prp. of sibilare 'to hiss, whistle,' possibly of imitative origin (cf. Gk. sizein 'to hiss,' Lett. sikt 'to hiss,' O.C.S. svistati 'to hiss, whistle')." - http://etymonline.com/?term=sibilant
09:57:41 <perigrin> .ety parselmouth
09:57:43 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "parselmouth". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=parselmouth
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10:16:20 <nsh> Monty, 6 2 4 4 4 3 2 4 6 2 2 4 2 2 6 3 4 3 2 2 2 3 4 2 6 2 6 3 2 3 4 4 4 2 4 6 4 3 2 4 2 3 4 3 2 3 4 4 4 1 6 2 2 3 4 3 2 1 6 3 6 3 3
10:16:23 <Monty> back breaking, long, tiring work. Then 30 mins or matt?
10:17:09 <sbp> hTurtle announced: http://inamidst.com/whits/2007/11#hturtle
10:17:14 <sbp> (rather multiply)
10:17:43 <sbp> on #swhack, #swig, the SWIG Scratchpad, the ESW Wiki, semantic-web, microformats-new, and Whits
10:24:43 <sbp> perigrin: gpwn
10:25:05 <nsh> .wik .sg
10:25:07 <phenny> ".sg is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Singapore." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.sg
10:25:39 <nsh> .wik Valdosta
10:25:42 <phenny> "The city of Valdosta is the county seat of Lowndes County, Georgia, United States." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdosta
10:27:17 <sbp> nsh: Valdosta?
10:28:52 * nsh researching some i ching crackpottery and one site has the domain name valdostamuseum
10:28:58 <bjoern_> "Crude Oil Futures Trade Above $96 Again" - http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/03/business/03oil.html?ref=business
10:29:09 <nsh> was wondering if it was a scientist or something
10:29:14 <bjoern_> We could start guessing when it tops 100 USD now
10:29:21 <nsh> egyptologist, i was guessing
10:29:41 <nsh> but it's a place
10:29:55 <nnm> http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ =]
10:31:46 <sbp> http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Pictures/Graph1.gif is funny
10:31:50 <sbp> they say 2005 is the peak
10:31:53 <sbp> but, um
10:31:58 <sbp> looks like somewhat of a guess
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10:32:47 <sbp> "These estimate comes from numerous sources, not the least of which is Vice President Dick Cheney himself."
10:32:50 <sbp> *himself*!
10:33:37 <nsh> .gc "not the least of which" "Cheney"
10:33:39 <phenny> "not the least of which" "Cheney": 52,300
10:33:57 <nsh> i think dick is not the least of many things
10:34:12 <nnm> sbp: I thkn the article is old, but a good read
10:34:30 <sbp> nnm: heh, from 2005?
10:34:39 <nnm> I don't know
10:34:44 <sbp> ooh, Countryfile is covering the Gunpowder Plot
10:34:54 <sbp> ooh, meadowsweet
10:35:03 <nsh> .wik Fred Hoyle
10:35:06 <phenny> "Sir Frederick Hoyle, FRS, (June 24, 1915– August 20, 2001 ) was a British astronomer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle
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10:44:09 <sbp> "I don't think consumers would want to pay less than the price of production."
10:44:15 <sbp> yes we would, if it was sustainable!
10:45:48 <sbp> feed makes up about 70% of the cost of bacon
10:47:31 <sbp> (the story is that British pig products production is in rather a recession)
10:47:53 <sbp> and is getting huge competition from Denmark
10:48:04 <sbp> 1/3 of our pork products are imported from Denmark now
10:50:46 <sbp> hedgehog numbers have dropped 20% since 2001
10:52:00 <sbp> climate change is good for hedgehogs
10:53:51 * nsh lols
10:54:33 <sbp> they're talking about something that sounds like Calm now
10:54:42 <nsh> all i saw when i glanced at the screen was a juxtaposition of pork import statistics and hedgehog sitings
10:54:50 <sbp> ah, Culm
10:54:51 <nsh> and assumed there was a conspiracy at foot
10:54:54 <sbp> .wik Culm
10:54:57 <phenny> "Culm originally referred to a stem of any type of plant." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culm
10:55:01 <sbp> nsh: hehe
10:55:22 <nsh> wotsha wotshin?
10:55:28 <sbp> Countryfile, BBC 1
10:55:31 <sbp> very good stuff
10:55:37 <nsh> cool cool
10:56:10 <nsh> what was the last doublet of east is east?
10:56:35 <sbp> dunno
10:56:37 <sbp> .title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166175/quotes
10:56:40 <phenny> sbp: East Is East (1999) - Memorable quotes
10:56:43 <nsh> But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
10:56:43 <nsh> When two strong men stand face to face,
10:56:55 <nsh> - http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/67.html
10:57:04 <sbp> ah. who's that by?
10:57:08 <nsh> Kipling
10:57:13 <sbp> ah, thanks
10:57:19 <nsh> s'a good pome
10:57:26 <sbp> NOTE TO SELF: BRUSH UP ON YER KIPLING
10:58:41 <bjoern_> .gc "certain certainty"
10:58:44 <phenny> "certain certainty": 622
10:59:07 * nsh was thinking about how computer science has come, by way of a long and convoluted path, to ecology
10:59:13 <sbp> huh. they're going round a poison garden now
10:59:18 <nsh> one technological loop almost complete
10:59:20 <sbp> all the plants in the garden are deadly or harmful
10:59:32 <sbp> they have cannabis and cocaine even, I think
10:59:51 <nsh> teh ultim8 pois0ns!
10:59:58 <bjoern_> Garden of Eden (U.S. Edition)
10:59:58 <sbp> showing bella-donna now
11:00:11 <sbp> tastes really good apparently
11:00:21 <nsh> not to your brain
11:00:25 <sbp> no
11:00:55 <sbp> the Duchess of Northumberland seems quite cool
11:01:03 <nsh> mmm
11:01:16 <nsh> i need me some aristo associates
11:01:39 <sbp> .gc "DANGER: Flaming Tar Barrels"
11:01:40 <nsh> (aristo is sounded as in blackadder episode)
11:01:42 <phenny> "DANGER: Flaming Tar Barrels": 0
11:01:44 <sbp> hehe
11:02:34 <sbp> they're trying to put kids out now
11:02:50 <nsh> "out" as in, covering in burning tar?
11:03:05 <nsh> man, the bbc's getting ballsy
11:03:06 <sbp> well, putting the flames on them out indeed
11:03:13 <nsh> awesome
11:03:14 <sbp> .wik Ottery St. Mary tar
11:03:18 <phenny> "Coordinates: 50°45′08″N 3°16′43″W / 50.75208, -3.27859" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottery_St_Mary
11:03:29 <sbp> it's a flaming tar barrel festival
11:03:40 <nsh> oh man
11:03:48 <nsh> that's truly tubularly immense
11:03:55 <sbp> yup
11:03:57 <bjoern_> Shame flaming tar barrel festivals are not announced on Wikipedia :(
11:04:00 * nsh makes note to attend
11:04:03 <nsh> yeah
11:04:10 <nsh> someone should 'ave-a-word
11:04:47 <sbp> 23,000 people attending
11:04:54 <sbp> the Midnight Barrel is the biggest of all
11:05:07 <sbp> people are ducking under the flames
11:07:05 <perigrin> flmng
11:07:21 <sbp> .gc flamr
11:07:24 <phenny> flamr: 1,990
11:07:26 <perigrin> are their beds burnin?
11:07:35 <sbp> they're covering a cycle race now
11:07:40 <bjoern_> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/news/mel_brooks_starts_nonprofit
11:07:43 <phenny> bjoern_: Mel Brooks Starts Nonprofit Foundation To Save Word 'Schmuck' | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
11:07:54 * perigrin wonders if a Modnight Oil joke is too far
11:07:59 <perigrin> gah
11:07:59 <bjoern_> .gc "Schmucks for Schmuck"
11:08:02 <phenny> "Schmucks for Schmuck": 2
11:08:08 <perigrin> midnight even
11:08:37 <sbp> .gc "Sally's Secret"
11:08:40 <phenny> "Sally's Secret": 3,490
11:09:29 <perigrin> slly scrt
11:09:47 <sbp> "So you're my team leader. How are you feeling?" "Yeah, I'm ready. Are you ready?" "No."
11:10:04 <bjoern_> sas secre
11:10:18 <sbp> you pneeple
11:10:18 <bjoern_> if you remove something, remove those damn scenders!
11:10:26 <sbp> eoe
11:10:40 <bjoern_> no u
11:10:49 <sbp> does i could as having an ascender?
11:10:52 <sbp> er, count
11:11:04 <bjoern_> it coulds sometimes
11:11:07 <bjoern_> usually it coulds not though
11:11:20 <sbp> so it's: aceimnoprsuvwxz
11:11:26 <sbp> er, not p
11:11:34 <sbp> aceimnorsuvwxz. okay
11:11:34 <bjoern_> it has a heisenscender
11:11:39 <sbp> hehe
11:11:55 <perigrin> no u
11:12:00 <perigrin> .
11:12:08 <bjoern_> well, that's true.
11:12:39 <perigrin> e as rue
11:12:44 <perigrin> er we
11:13:05 <bjoern_> "Instead of simply heating a mug of water in the microwave, Baumer used a hoity-toity copper-bottomed tea kettle, which His Lordship reportedly purchased at Pier One Imports in 2003 for the express purpose of tea-making." - http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fancy_man_enjoys_tea
11:14:44 <perigrin> Who doesn't enjoy tea though?
11:15:10 <bjoern_> .g "tea is schmuck"
11:15:12 <phenny> "tea is schmuck": sorry, no results were found.
11:15:32 <perigrin> .gc "schmuck is tea"
11:15:33 <sbp> oxav, here we uo. i've wriiien a scrioi which maos iowercase ieiiers io iheir ciosesi ascenzeriess evuivaienis. can vou siiii unzersianz ihis?
11:15:35 <phenny> "schmuck is tea": 0
11:15:40 <sbp> whoops, h is BROKEN
11:16:08 <sbp> oxav, rixez n. ii now uives n
11:16:52 <bjoern_> reoires some more worr i am arraio
11:16:54 <perigrin> so is that 'ieei sieax' ?
11:17:14 <sbp> sav auain, eioern?
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11:17:47 <sbp> 'ieei sieax'? wnai ine wanx are vou on aeoui ioo oeriurin? man, oernaos inis easicaiiv zoesn'i worx
11:18:03 <sbp> .gc "master blaster pastor"
11:18:06 <phenny> "master blaster pastor": 8
11:18:08 <bjoern_> i aoree
11:19:19 <perigrin> are vou maicnino ov snaoe?
11:19:32 <perigrin> or souno?
11:20:05 <perigrin> er ... sounv?
11:20:18 <sbp> weii i siiii zon'i exaciiv xnow wnai vou're savinu, so i'ii uo wiin maicnino eecause ii sounzs ine mosi iixe macno anz i iixe io ininx or mvseir as a macno, macno man
11:20:33 <perigrin> why do all of the hard consonants have ascenders?
11:20:37 <sbp> hehe
11:21:01 <bjoern_> if you need a faster kitchen, try Porsche's offerings http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article1326514/Porsche_baut_jetzt_auch_Kuechen_fuer_echte_Maenner.html
11:21:05 <nsh> because it all used to make a lot more sense than it doesn now
11:21:13 <nsh> s/doesn/does
11:21:31 <sbp> phenny: "Auch Sportwagen-Fahrer haben häusliche Seiten. Das meinen zumindest die beiden Luxusmarken Porsche und Poggenpohl. Dazu bringen die beiden exklusiven Hersteller das Küchenmodell P7340 auf den Markt. Es soll aus Autobahn-Rasern überzeugte Hausmänner machen."?
11:21:35 <phenny> sbp: "Also sports car drivers have domestic sides. At least the two luxury marks Porsche and Poggenpohl mean. In addition the two exclusive manufacturers bring the kitchen model to P7340 on the market. It is to make convinced house men from motorway Rasern." (de)
11:21:37 <perigrin> /
11:21:47 <sbp> /
11:21:57 <perigrin> I was closing nsh's replace ...
11:22:04 <sbp> ô thx
11:22:36 <perigrin> course now his sentance has a whole lot more german in it
11:22:38 * nsh always pictures head-sbp with hands clasped and an angelic facial expression
11:22:53 <sbp> head-sbp?
11:22:59 <sbp> as opposed to pawn-sbp?
11:23:03 <tommorris> Good to see that machine translation still sucks.
11:23:05 <perigrin> is that like head cheese?
11:23:07 <sbp> or tail-sbp
11:23:11 <perigrin> I certainly hope not.
11:23:35 <bjoern_> .gc Mannekjøkkenet
11:23:38 <phenny> Mannekjøkkenet : 4
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11:24:39 <bjoern_> not much en coverage as yet, only found http://www.designweek.co.uk/liChannelID/7/Articles/136342/News+in+pictures.html so far
11:24:40 <jinzo> sbp, ping
11:24:58 <sbp> jinzo: pong
11:25:08 * perigrin finally parses sbp's last ieei sieax line ... and will now spend the rest of the weekend singing macno, macno man .. I want to be a macno man
11:25:20 <sbp> perigrin: ahahaha
11:25:39 <sbp> <3
11:25:41 <jinzo> sbp, is the functionallity built in phenny easly removable / modulable ? ( I know I can easly add it, but what of removing ? )
11:25:58 <sbp> jinzo: yeah, just rm modules/somemodule.py
11:25:59 <bjoern_> hmm http://www.titanic-magazin.de/
11:26:05 <sbp> and blam, it is gone
11:26:15 <jinzo> sbp, so basicly everything ( also built in ) is in the modules ?
11:26:34 <sbp> well, I think the help command isn't in a module
11:26:39 <sbp> but that's about it as far as I know
11:26:59 <sbp> phenny: reload help
11:27:02 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.help' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/help.pyc'> (version: 2007-03-01 17:31:01)
11:27:08 <sbp> okay, maybe that's in a module too
11:27:29 <jinzo> sbp, so basicly only built in is connecting to irc ?
11:27:30 <perigrin> the only four charecters of python I've ever written are in a phenny module
11:27:49 <sbp> jinzo: yeah, and joining the startup channels, and replying to PINGs from the server, etc.
11:27:59 <sbp> perigrin: ooh. what characters were they?
11:28:07 <bjoern_> .title http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article413590.ece
11:28:11 <phenny> bjoern_: Madeleine McCann | German mag’s sick joke | McCanns may take legal action | The Sun |HomePage|News
11:28:15 <perigrin> I changed the swatch beat to sprintf %03d
11:28:21 <perigrin> cause someone complained
11:28:25 <sbp> ooh
11:28:27 <sbp> .beats
11:28:29 <phenny> @538
11:28:30 <supybot> phenny: Error: "538" is not a valid command.
11:28:38 <perigrin> so "%03d" %
11:28:54 <perigrin> and removing the string conversion ... method? function?
11:29:16 <sbp> self.msg(origin.sender, '@%03i' % beats)
11:29:47 <sbp> phenny: reload timing
11:29:49 <phenny> sbp: <module 'modules.timing' from '/home/sbp/phenny/modules/timing.py'> (version: 2007-11-04 11:56:45)
11:30:03 <sbp> thxes
11:30:08 <perigrin> :)
11:30:42 <perigrin> you now contain all my python knowledge.
11:30:50 <sbp> I AM THE REPOSITOR
11:30:55 <perigrin> go forth and ... uh ... sprintf.
11:31:00 <sbp> ...'k
11:31:15 <sbp> 11:30 Countryfile next week! omg!
11:31:20 <sbp> alright, I'm off
11:31:59 <perigrin> night ... or day ... or afternoon ... or daystarperiod
11:32:05 <perigrin> .time sbp
11:32:07 <phenny> Sun Nov 4 11:59:08 GMT 2007
11:32:12 <perigrin> afternoon
11:32:22 <perigrin> -ish
11:33:48 <bjoern_> Your pillow!
11:33:58 <perigrin> such as
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12:32:20 <sbp> pillough
12:35:31 <Arnia> Barberella
12:39:18 <perigrin> yr pllgh
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12:47:26 <sbp> .gc shitrude
12:47:28 <phenny> shitrude: 74
12:47:45 <bjoern_> .gc spitnude
12:47:48 <phenny> spitnude: 25
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12:48:07 <sbp> muahaha, we're pwning spitnude
12:48:35 <sbp> so I was just going through the SPARQL CR
12:48:42 <sbp> and I see bjoern_'s name plastered at the bottom
12:48:46 <sbp> and I'm not surprised
12:49:29 <sbp> .gc site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Björn Höhrmann"
12:49:31 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Björn Höhrmann": 29
12:49:43 <sbp> .gc site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Sean B. Palmer"
12:49:46 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Sean B. Palmer": 25
12:49:58 <sbp> hmm, not as far behind as I thought I'd be
12:50:30 <bjoern_> try with oe?
12:50:54 <sbp> .gc site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Bjoern Hoehrmann"
12:50:56 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Bjoern Hoehrmann": 6
12:51:04 <sbp> .gc site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Sean Palmer"
12:51:07 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" "Sean Palmer": 7
12:51:17 <sbp> false positives and stuff a-plenty though
12:51:26 <bjoern_> .gc site:w3.org inurl:REC inurl:TR "Sean B. Palmer"
12:51:26 <sbp> I think you are pwning me on the actual REC front
12:51:29 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:REC inurl:TR "Sean B. Palmer": 0
12:51:35 <bjoern_> .gc site:w3.org inurl:REC "Sean B. Palmer"
12:51:38 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:REC "Sean B. Palmer": 0
12:51:48 <bjoern_> hmm
12:52:06 <sbp> that's odd
12:52:10 <sbp> I'm in at least one
12:52:37 <bjoern_> in http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-syntax-grammar-20040210/ say
12:52:41 <sbp> yeah
12:52:42 <pierpa> .gc site:w3.org inurl:REC "Sean*Palmer"
12:52:44 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:REC "Sean*Palmer": 0
12:53:25 <bjoern_> .gc site:w3.org inurl:rec palmer rdf
12:53:26 <pierpa> .gc site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" Bjoern*Hoehrmann
12:53:28 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:rec palmer rdf: 2
12:53:30 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:TR "W3C Recommendation" Bjoern*Hoehrmann: 6
12:53:34 <pierpa> .gc site:w3.org inurl:REC Sean*Palmer
12:53:36 <phenny> site:w3.org inurl:REC Sean*Palmer: 1
12:54:01 <bjoern_> you know the references also say "w3c recommendation"
12:54:41 <bjoern_> .gc site:w3.org "it has been endorsed by the Director" sean palmer
12:54:44 <phenny> site:w3.org "it has been endorsed by the Director" sean palmer : 2
12:54:48 <pierpa> .weather lirf
12:54:51 <phenny> Clear ☼, 19℃, 1015mb, Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - LIRF 13:50, 1250Z
12:55:27 <bjoern_> .weather edfm
12:55:30 <phenny> Cloudy, 11℃, 1026mb, Gentle breeze 13km/h (7kt) (↑) - EDFM 13:50, 1250Z
12:58:10 <bjoern_> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1123069119 is rather thin
12:59:09 <bjoern_> Iran, Israel, Russia media, and then things like "The Military Family Network"
13:00:05 <sbp> aha, RDF/XML Syntax and RDF Primer. cool
13:00:41 <bjoern_> TRs that mention me have a hard time getting to REC apparently...
13:00:50 <sbp> hehe
13:00:51 <perigrin> .weather kmsp
13:00:54 <phenny> Clear ☼, 32.0℉ (0℃), 29.91in (1010mb), Light air 3kt (↑) - KMSP 6:53, 1253Z
13:01:23 <perigrin> no wonder I'm chilly ...
13:01:59 <perigrin> lolpipz, are you cold?
13:02:02 <lolpipz> perigrin: NO I CANNOT FEEL TEMPERACHUR AT ALL.
13:07:57 <sbp> # foos0 is mnemonic for 0 or more foos
13:07:57 <sbp> # foos1 " 1 or more foos
13:07:59 <sbp> - http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/rdfn3.g
13:08:09 <bjoern_> ...
13:08:17 <sbp> foos
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13:08:33 <perigrin> I pity the foos1
13:08:37 <bjoern_> [perigrin] off, don't make me want to kill u!
13:08:38 <sbp> hehe
13:09:09 * perigrin runs away and hides in bed.
13:09:14 <perigrin> (night)
13:09:19 <jinzo> night
13:09:21 <sbp> 'night!
13:10:46 <sbp> ! - what do you call the two parts, ascender and dot, of an exclamation mark? do they have technical names?
13:10:50 <bjoern_> ur pillow!
13:11:18 <bjoern_> .wik !
13:11:21 <phenny> "An exclamation mark or exclamation point is a punctuation mark: ! It is usually used after an interjection or exclamation to indicate strong feelings or high volume, and generally marks the end of a sentence." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/!
13:11:34 <sbp> hehe: 'In typesetting or printing (and therefore when spelling text out orally), the exclamation mark is called a screamer or bang. "Bang" is also common in computer programming slang. Less common names in publishing include "gasper", "startler", and even "dog's cock".'
13:12:00 <jinzo> "dog's cock" lol :D
13:12:09 <bjoern_> "In typesetting or printing (and therefore when spelling text out orally), the exclamation mark is called a sex screamer or finger bang."
13:12:12 <bjoern_> right
13:13:10 <tommorris> Shebangs, m'lud, shebangs.
13:13:14 <sbp> "Research has shown that women use the exclamation mark more than men."
13:13:21 <bjoern_> '''In German, the exclamation mark has several specific uses for which English employs other forms of punctuation: ... At the end of an imperative sentence: Ruf mich morgen an! (English: "Call me tomorrow.")'''
13:13:22 <bjoern_> wtf!
13:13:32 <sbp> yeah, I was going to ask about that
13:13:34 <tommorris> And gossip magazines most of all: "OMG BRITNEY!"
13:13:37 <sbp> or note it or do something around it
13:14:10 <bjoern_> why on earth would you use "."!?!?!
13:14:15 <sbp> surprising they don't just spell BR!TNEY with a !
13:14:22 <tommorris> Reminds me - possibly the worst aggregator ever: http://omg.yahoo.com/
13:14:52 <sbp> ahahaha, that's brilliant
13:15:01 <sbp> that's the Web 2.0 equivalent of Goatse!
13:15:55 <bjoern_> wtf
13:15:59 <sbp> .gc XTINA
13:16:02 <phenny> XTINA: 1,050,000
13:16:19 <sbp> the ads and the flash and the... is this a parody?
13:16:35 <bjoern_> "bridezilla" is another google toy?
13:16:45 <sbp> oh man
13:16:46 <sbp> [[[
13:16:50 <sbp> You need to change the name!
13:16:52 <sbp> Created by anonymous user. Updated 7 hours ago.
13:16:54 <sbp> Even if the title does not mean "Oh, my God", it implies such. I would appreciate the name change. In this world of being "politically correct", you would not name your site something that offend Muslims or other religions. Please consider how this n…
13:16:56 <bjoern_> cf http://spe.atdmt.com/ds/AAAVETVGUTVG/1112007/tvg_300x250_magazine.gif?ver=1
13:16:58 <sbp> 25 comments
13:17:00 <sbp> ]]]
13:17:09 <bjoern_> u haz a lag :(((
13:17:27 <sbp> "I stumbled onto this web site and OMG! I didn't know that people had this little to do with there life I know it's kind of an oxymoron to even be writing this but wow come one people there was a link that shows starts with big sunglasses. Get a life…"
13:17:34 <sbp> these comments are the best
13:17:37 <therethinker> Hey everyone
13:17:40 <sbp> .title http://suggestions.yahoo.com/homepage/?prop=omg
13:17:42 <sbp> yo therethinker
13:17:45 <phenny> sbp: OMG! Suggestion Board
13:18:05 <sbp> [[[
13:18:06 <sbp> 7 votes
13:18:06 <sbp> We ought to have God's Spirit on anything we do...
13:18:06 <sbp> Created by macaronnie2002. Updated 3 days ago.
13:18:06 <sbp> HE WHO PRAYS MOST, RECEIVES MOST MARIAN ROSARY
13:18:06 <sbp> ]]]
13:18:34 <sbp> "I hate it and would hate to switch to google. Thanks."
13:18:43 <therethinker> HE WHO PRAYS MOST, RECEIVES MOST MARIAN ROSARY / ROSARY OF GOD THE FATHER http://www.rosaryofgodthefather.org BAPTISM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT …
13:18:48 <therethinker> Sorry
13:18:55 <crschmidt> thelsdj: that area of the map is all *totally* screwed up
13:19:01 <crschmidt> thelsdj: the one you bumped into last night
13:19:03 <sbp> bloody hell, I just want to quote every one of these comments
13:19:08 <therethinker> Heh
13:19:09 <sbp> these are absolutely hilarious
13:19:15 <bjoern_> .gc "MARTIAN ROSARY"
13:19:16 <therethinker> I know
13:19:18 <phenny> "MARTIAN ROSARY": 0
13:19:37 <therethinker> .gc "EARTHLY ROSARY"
13:19:39 <phenny> "EARTHLY ROSARY": 0
13:19:54 <sbp> [[[
13:19:55 <sbp> WHAT IS WRONG WITH PPL??!
13:19:55 <sbp> Created by anonymous user. Updated 1 week ago.
13:19:56 <sbp> good gracious people why are you all still BLUBBERING about the title???if you don't support it then don't go on!!!!the people who don't care about the title can stay on!!!ITS GOOD you are standing up for your religon , i'll give props, but still we …
13:19:57 <sbp> ]]]
13:20:05 <therethinker> [[[
13:20:09 <therethinker> 6 votes
13:20:13 <therethinker> Rate it! I love it! I hate it! You rated it! 6 votes I suggest people get a life
13:20:28 <therethinker> ]]] Gah -- already quote
13:20:30 <bjoern_> [[[
13:20:54 * bjoern_ enjoys a moment of silence and not getting confused by longquotes or lag
13:20:58 <bjoern_> ]]]
13:21:02 <therethinker> I need to shut up
13:21:02 <sbp> way to paste
13:21:04 <sbp> hehe
13:21:10 <therethinker> haha -- worse than me!
13:21:14 <nnm> .gc == garbage collection?
13:21:20 <therethinker> google count
13:21:23 <nnm> xD
13:21:29 <therethinker> phenny: help gc?
13:21:31 <phenny> Sorry, no documentation for gc.
13:21:36 <bjoern_> pwnt
13:21:38 <sbp> "I am a journalism student entering my sophomore year in college, and I am appalled at all the misspellings in your articles. They are mostly just stupid mistakes like forgetting letters here and there, but these articles should be reviewed by a few p…"
13:21:57 * therethinker is glad sbp forgot about yelling @ him
13:22:08 <sbp> "stop making fun of people from the south.. just because brit brit is a f*cking screw up doesnt mean that you can be biased agaist everybody else from the south... we already get enough sh*t off of people as it is... stop with the "smile yall" and "ai…"
13:22:14 <sbp> yeah, all of this is just too fun
13:22:38 <sbp> oh man
13:22:40 <sbp> "Bury this site in hot garbage, then burn it with Napalm. This [profane] is what is poisoning the mind of America. There's a WAR on, ya know. I ain't give a 1/2 a [profane] about Britneyannanicolelindsay OMG. I hope all you celebrity leecher…"
13:22:50 * sbp [profane]
13:24:10 <bjoern_> is "God" actually 'God''s name?
13:24:23 <therethinker> I don't think so
13:24:54 <sbp> 'The last time I checked taking the name of the Lord in vain is against the First Commandment .... don't think the Muslims would appreciate "Oh My Muhammed"'
13:25:16 <bjoern_> .gc "OH MY JEBUS"
13:25:19 <phenny> "OH MY JEBUS": 1,340
13:25:42 <bjoern_> "Same Dress - I just noticed in todays spread that Jessica Alba and Katherine Heigel are in the exact same dress. how did no one notice this? I think we need a section of stars wearing the same outfits, and see who wears/accessorizes it better!"
13:25:43 <therethinker> They need to learn to just suck it up
13:25:56 <bjoern_> don't inhale clothing.
13:26:15 * therethinker was refering to OMGod
13:26:29 <therethinker> Or, they could pretend its OH MY GOSH!
13:26:31 <bjoern_> "Drivers Needed For The very Welthy - I think all The very Rich Need to get a Driver So they can go out and get wasted if they want. Keep the out of Jail and out the tabloids"
13:26:43 <sbp> best comment so far:
13:26:44 <sbp> [[[
13:26:45 <sbp> how to play game delicious
13:26:45 <sbp> Created by macsau25. Updated 1 month ago.
13:26:45 <sbp> hi
13:26:45 <sbp> ]]]
13:26:52 <therethinker> haha
13:27:21 <bjoern_> "please delete the spam from the psycho "bluesagedragon" - Created by mapo11111. Updated 3 months ago. - Please delete the offensive messages written by the degenerated idiot "bluesagedragon"."
13:27:23 <sbp> "no wonder she hates jesus,she looks in a mirror and wonders shouldnt i have been a man" - who's this about, I wonder?
13:27:51 <sbp> 'IN YOUR DAILY BLAST VOTE ABOUT THE SEX AND THE CITY MOVIE...THE CORRECT PHRASE IS "I COULDN'T CARE LESS" PEOPLE SOUND SO STUPID WHEN THE SAY" I COULD CARE LESS", THAT DOES NOT EVEN MAKE SENSE.'
13:27:52 <therethinker> wow
13:28:07 <therethinker> Haha -- wow
13:28:23 <bjoern_> so how doesn't being able to care less make no sense?
13:28:30 <therethinker> I could care less about not caring less
13:28:40 <sbp> ahahaha: "The site doesn't work if I use Opera (the browser)!"
13:28:43 <sbp> as opposed to Opera the...
13:28:53 <therethinker> Well... if you have the ability to care less, that means you care at least a bit
13:28:56 * bjoern_ notes that the act of "sense making" sense makes not.
13:28:59 <therethinker> That's amazing
13:29:06 <sbp> bwahaha. "Every time i post a comment it never goes on no matter how clean it is whats up with that"
13:29:21 <bjoern_> "This site is the devil" - puzzow
13:29:22 <therethinker> Ha -- that made it
13:29:50 <bjoern_> "rush+die=marriage and divorce - Created by rafvltr. Updated 3 months ago. - rushdie oppose prophet,s married life..but rushdie marrei four ladeis..??????!!!!!!!! rafeeq vailathur"
13:30:34 <bjoern_> "Quit deleting comments that do not come from the 'left'" - anon
13:30:35 <sbp> "So if you can't add a lot of more celebs, just add a couple. A few suggestions would be: Lisa Kudrow, Mathew Perry, […"
13:30:49 <therethinker> Haha wow :P
13:31:02 *** Arnia has quit ()
13:31:26 <sbp> that's logics: '1) OMG. "oh my god", people get over it. "your god" is not the same as "my god". so the people at "OMG" can be refering to my "god" and not someone elses.'
13:31:51 <therethinker> The could be referring to the FSM!
13:31:53 <bjoern_> there is no way to rate postings down, is there?
13:31:55 <therethinker> OMFSM!
13:32:00 <sbp> that post has two comments
13:32:06 <sbp> the first is "love d laydies i will like e have contact whit any one of them. name charly"
13:32:14 <sbp> the second is "Your post makes no sense."
13:32:34 <sbp> heh, no there isn't
13:32:43 <bjoern_> "Should there only be just white people on the web cover? - Created by anonymous user. Updated 3 months ago. - YOU REALY SHOULD MIX IT UP! NOT UNLESS YOU JUST WANT US WHITE PEOPLE TO VIEW THIS SIT."
13:32:43 <sbp> you hover over the vote button and it just says "I love it!"
13:32:48 <sbp> unless you have to push it twice or something
13:32:54 <bjoern_> yeah that's pretty weird!
13:33:07 <bjoern_> I thought at least you could hover the thump down
13:33:12 <bjoern_> b
13:33:13 <bjoern_> ?
13:33:14 <bjoern_> hm
13:33:28 <therethinker> Hmm
13:33:34 <bjoern_> "WHY????? - Created by anonymous user. Updated 3 months ago. - I do NOT appreciate the ad campaign of 'omg'. It is AGAINST The Lord! I will not be clicking on anything of this nature again."
13:34:03 <therethinker> "Rate it! I love it! I hate it! You rated it"-- apparently its possible
13:34:18 <sbp> oh this is great. "thank god the beckhams have moved to america . us brits dont have to hear about that self centered up her own arse spoilt [profane] . victoria please keep her over the pond cheers"
13:34:21 <bjoern_> @internet whois rater.com
13:34:27 <supybot> bjoern_: rater.com <registered at opensrs.org> is ok, registered 20-jan-1998, updated 27-jun-2007, and expires 19-jan-2009.
13:34:43 <clsn> I'm perfectly in favor of God slapping omg.yahoo.com down. Though I'm sure he has better things to do.
13:34:49 <therethinker> "maybe the Christians should riot or bomb something like other fanatical religions. It works for them."
13:35:02 <therethinker> *cough* they have *cough*
13:35:24 <sbp> this one is long, but... just great:
13:35:25 <sbp> http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=omg&fid=42098
13:35:46 <therethinker> Haha
13:35:59 <therethinker> I smell a carpet bomb coming on!
13:36:39 <bjoern_> awaysome
13:36:43 <clsn> Not that I have anything against the name per se.
13:37:19 <tommorris> Wow, I hide IRC for a few minutes to write up an intro to Jena for the wiki, and I come back and it's all... OMG.
13:37:30 <sbp> nobody's fault but yours
13:37:38 <clsn> Boy Devanagari is an extreme PITA to put in a font.
13:37:47 <sbp> heh, you're still doing that?
13:37:55 <sbp> and also, yo!
13:38:09 <clsn> Here and there. I got all the letters in, now I have to tinker with doing the conjunct stuff.
13:38:12 <clsn> y0.
13:38:29 <bjoern_> phenny, "Ach du meine Güte!"?
13:38:38 <phenny> bjoern_: "Oh you my quality!" (de)
13:38:40 <bjoern_> u suckz
13:38:58 <clsn> @internet whois omfg.com
13:38:59 <supybot> clsn: omfg.com is clienttransferprohibited, registered 12-mar-1999, updated 10-feb-2007, and expires 12-mar-2011.
13:39:20 <bjoern_> .gc lotfr
13:39:21 <phenny> lotfr: 1,950
13:39:31 <sbp> .gc roflcoptr
13:39:32 <phenny> roflcoptr: 1,370
13:39:44 <sbp> @internet whois roflcoptr.com
13:39:45 <supybot> sbp: roflcoptr.com <registered at godaddy.com> is clientrenewprohibited, registered 12-apr-2007, updated 12-apr-2007, and expires 12-apr-2008.
13:39:45 <bjoern_> "little check marks - Created by anonymous user. Updated 3 months ago. - I don't like the little marks that show up, I know what I've seen, don't insult my intelligence as a visitor."
13:39:56 <sbp> hehe
13:40:08 <clsn> .gc nakhlima
13:40:08 <phenny> nakhlima: 0
13:40:20 <clsn> (I dreamed about looking it up on google last night)
13:40:42 <clsn> (I think I thought it meant something like "in other words" in some weird language)
13:40:48 <clsn> (or "that is to say...")
13:40:59 <sbp> "Curious / Where is Cher? How is she doing now a days?"
13:42:24 <sbp> "We as human beings are naturally voyeurs." - jayraechic
13:43:06 <bjoern_> "Paris Hilton - Created by jose_brill. Updated 3 months ago. - Please, please, please in a link about Paris Hilton, please do NOT include news about Nicole What'shername. Nobody cares about her. I clicked the Paris link to read about Paris, not about Nicole What'shername. Thanks, OMG!!"
13:43:32 <sbp> "Yahoo is going down~ OMG is going down~ You are going down~"
13:43:40 <clsn> I wonder if there's a fetish for people who get turned on by watching voyeurs watching other people...
13:43:40 <sbp> Bet they're scared~
13:43:51 <sbp> metavoyeurism!
13:43:56 <bjoern_> "Ask Yahoo! is teaming up with Yahoo! Answers to bring you Ask Mike." - http://ask.yahoo.com/
13:44:07 <sbp> "I am offended by your title....OMG meaning.... Oh My God..I am not a religion freak..I am a average person who is christian and respects the title 'God'..."
13:44:11 <clsn> It's the next big thing.
13:44:30 <clsn> *blink* It stands for Oh My God? I thought it stood for On Maple Gaskets.
13:44:34 <sbp> this is quite fun: http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=omg&fid=35407
13:44:36 <tommorris> Oh My Golly!
13:44:45 <sbp> Oh My Glaven!
13:45:26 <tommorris> Marginally more offensive than Oh My God: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog
13:45:47 <sbp> "PEOPLE WHO READ THIS [profane] HAVE NO LIVES. GET ONE"
13:46:02 <bjoern_> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag04sc_glAyDoMSOfQV1F9tJxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104060958AAgTKRu
13:46:51 <sbp> not everybody's offended by the "g". someone is offended by the f: "dont use flash in omg! its crappy and flash sucks. everyone knows about it. not all users have hi-speed internet connection."
13:46:54 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Agz1jjkiMmnZhmHEf9y0qUNJxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104060935AALv6hv
13:46:56 <phenny> bjoern_: Do blind Eskimos have seeing-eye sled dogs? - Yahoo! Answers
13:47:20 <therethinker> haha
13:48:02 <sbp> "You should be easy to be found"
13:48:17 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Am50ypAfJ2etDXoGvwfkWVZJxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104060800AABo869
13:48:18 <phenny> bjoern_: Squirrel recipes please? - Yahoo! Answers
13:48:22 <sbp> oh man
13:48:39 <sbp> [[[
13:48:40 <sbp> BBQ Squirrel
13:48:40 <sbp> 4 squirrels, quartered
13:48:40 <sbp> ~ 3 tbsp salt
13:48:40 <sbp> ~ 2 tsp pepper
13:48:43 <sbp> [&c.]
13:48:43 <sbp> ]]]
13:48:50 <sbp> Texas style
13:49:05 <sbp> "Fried Squirrel with Mushroom Gravy"
13:49:14 <sbp> "Cajun Squirrel"
13:49:27 <sbp> ahahaha. "Daddy's Squirrel Stew"
13:49:54 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvRKeybAWEHtBXIvYGoA6vhJxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104060446AANZdyE
13:49:55 <phenny> bjoern_: Is masturbating allowed in islam (with proof only)? - Yahoo! Answers
13:50:09 <sbp> "Barbecue them, like you would a rat."
13:50:10 <clsn> sbp: Did you see http://seqram.livejournal.com/14187.html ? More amusement at religious kneejerkisms.
13:50:20 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Barbecue them, like you would a rat."
13:50:34 <sbp> clsn: lookin'...
13:50:35 <clsn> I've decided to start putting together a list of amusing verses. Like "If a man's hair falls out, he is bald"
13:51:13 <sbp> "(That's another story: there's even a situation in the Bible which the rabbis said never happened and never will happen, and yet they still worked out the laws and details for it.)" - I wanna hear about that!
13:51:35 <clsn> Yeah. "The rebellious son." Deuteronomy somethingorother, sec.
13:52:03 <bjoern_> [[[
13:52:09 <bjoern_> Does any body know why I would have this dream? Really!!!?
13:52:09 <bjoern_> Ive had this dream numerous times through my life. Im standing in a circular room. There are wolves in the middle of the room, and Im scared to
13:52:11 <bjoern_> death. The only thing separating the wolves and myself is like this plexy glass window that goes around the room. I cant get out, but now when I
13:52:14 <bjoern_> have the dream, I know its just a dream, and try to wake myself up. But I am still scared, cause sometimes, I cant wake up right away, and these
13:52:15 <bjoern_> wolves are READY TO EAT!!! Whats that about? Any one know????
13:52:19 <bjoern_> ]]] - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag04sc_glAyDoMSOfQV1F9uA.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104053510AAEMDnN
13:52:24 <sbp> 'After all, the claim is that Judaism prescribes slavery for non-Jews, and that is "bad"... but then, Christianity prescribes hell for non-Christians... which, really, is worse?' - oh man
13:52:27 <clsn> Deuteronomy 20:18-21
13:53:11 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylt=AlvGafIAfLCti6U6FSxLzZZJxQt.;_ylv=3?sid=2115500160
13:53:13 <phenny> bjoern_: Dream Interpretation - Yahoo! Answers
13:53:17 <clsn> Yeah... I mean, "oooh, look how horrible these Jews think non-Jews should be treated..." But it's okay to think that non-Christians should burn in eternal torment.
13:53:22 <bjoern_> wtf
13:53:25 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqPjeqGT9Gt3jSgMD4X6bZ.A.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104025608AAq2XvM
13:53:29 <phenny> bjoern_: Ok this is weird, is my clock possessed? - Yahoo! Answers
13:53:30 <sbp> "I just had a dream about a guy from high school and we were in class making out and he was...?"
13:53:31 <bjoern_> there we go
13:54:03 <sbp> ahahaha. from the clock one...
13:54:06 <sbp> "i looked up the meanings and they don't make sense this time, that usually do, if someone can find out the meaning of having Captain Jean Luc Picard in a dream leme know (and he's not even my fave captain)"
13:54:18 <sbp> he's not even my fave captain. burrrrnnnn!
13:54:20 <clsn> Bah. I have the most insanely bizarre and detailed dreams almost every night. Which invariably get stuck whenever I try to describe them.
13:54:52 <clsn> Like what I said before about looking up "nakhlima" (and yakhlima, for that matter) in Google, in a dream last night.
13:54:58 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ak.jMHYSaQrYo1OePLe_6ISA.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071102084404AANomyl
13:55:02 <phenny> bjoern_: A while ago I dreamt I saw someone shoot two wolves.? - Yahoo! Answers
13:55:06 <sbp> [[[
13:55:07 <sbp> ok...here's my dream
13:55:07 <sbp> i was in a nightclub..and some hot guy snatched me and started to undress me on the stage. i let him. then, we had "it" on the stage. then he started performing oral on me, i let him. then i went home and cried. what does this mean...and is it normal....I AM A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL!!
13:55:08 <sbp> ]]]
13:55:22 <therethinker> Wow...
13:55:53 <sbp> one of the comments is "Good Morning officer. I wish you success in your tracking of pedophiles on the internet."
13:55:57 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjqXXByCoLQw_eG.O9vjZHKA.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071102044716AAizjCT
13:56:01 <phenny> bjoern_: Attacked by half-spider/half-scopion in dream. What could it mean? - Yahoo! Answers
13:56:08 <sbp> which might be the best comment on Yahoo! Answers
13:56:41 <tommorris> That 13-year-old one has to be a troll. Ask Yahoo is troll cental.
13:56:44 <sbp> "You are just in the beginning stages of learning about your reproductive organs and sexual feelings" - dude, she said "then he started performing oral on me"
13:56:46 <tommorris> s/cental/central
13:57:02 <sbp> yeah, probably. good though
13:57:09 <therethinker> wow
13:57:26 <sbp> "Remove the squirrel from the water and pat dry. Coat with your favorite dry rub."
13:58:07 <bjoern_> [[[
13:58:07 <bjoern_> Help, I am having weird dreams!?
13:58:07 <bjoern_> Ok, first of I am a girl, and as far as I know I am straight, well,
13:58:07 <bjoern_> somewhat. Anyways, I keep having dreams lately in which I am having sex
13:58:07 <bjoern_> with a female cartoon like Cinderella or Bell. And aperently I am reallt
13:58:07 <bjoern_> enjoying it. But that is not the worst part. The other night I had a
13:58:09 <bjoern_> dream in which I sa my mom, ripped her clothes of till she was completly
13:58:11 <bjoern_> naked. Pushed her ona bed, got on top of her and started pounding her
13:58:13 <bjoern_> hard. Moening and everything. As wildly as I could ever see my self
13:58:15 <bjoern_> being. Then when we were done, we layed down and she looked at me and
13:58:17 <bjoern_> said, "I didn;t know I had such a passionate daughter." Even in my dream
13:58:19 <bjoern_> I was emberressed. But then the dream fast forward to my mom my sister
13:58:21 <bjoern_> and I having luch and talking and suddenlly my mome turns to my sister
13:58:23 <bjoern_> and says, by the way, you should see how passionate your sister is. And
13:58:25 <bjoern_> my sister smiles and with a malicious smirk in her eyes looks at me and
13:58:27 <bjoern_> say. "Really?'
13:58:29 <bjoern_> What the hell is wrong with me?
13:58:31 <bjoern_> ]]] - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlRmo5zA8gtOACK4zA3WOmqA.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071101130923AAtjfYv
13:58:45 <sbp> "Bell"?
13:58:52 <bjoern_> .wik Bell
13:58:54 <phenny> "Bell (instrument), a simple sound-making device Altar bell, a bell rung during the Catholic Mass" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell
13:59:00 <sbp> (that is probably the least important question about that)
13:59:02 <clsn> Belle. From Beauty & the Beast.
13:59:09 <sbp> aha, thanks
13:59:13 <clsn> That definitely sounds like troll too.
13:59:17 <therethinker> wow
13:59:31 <sbp> trolling is art too!
13:59:53 <tommorris> In my village, there is a "Boys and Belles Society"
13:59:55 <clsn> Of course, the whole "pounding mother" dream is a classic trope.
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14:00:09 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Anzx1AOcnaeCq5mC0fs6HQ2A.Bd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071031162715AAUP4QA
14:00:13 <phenny> bjoern_: Why do I die in a lot of my dreams? - Yahoo! Answers
14:00:19 <tommorris> See http://www.villagenet.co.uk/esussex-iron/villages/mayfield.php
14:00:37 <clsn> A while ago on Google books I came across a book called something like "Beaux and Belles" about--astronomy! From the 1800s.
14:00:54 <sbp> "The saint, formerly a blacksmith was working at his forge when the Devil paid him a visit, disguised as a beautiful woman, with a view to leading him astray. However St Dunstan spotted the cloven hooves beneath the dress, and grabbed the devil's nose with his red hot pincers! thus foiling Satan's evil intentions. "
14:01:03 <sbp> I've heard of that legend
14:01:05 <clsn> Set in context of a group of young socialites stargazing and talking astronomy.
14:01:10 <sbp> in a book of English Folklore, I think
14:01:57 <clsn> .g "Belles and Beaux" universe
14:01:59 <phenny> clsn: http://fax.libs.uga.edu/QB61xT994/1f/celestial_amusements.pdf
14:02:03 <tommorris> You can see the iron forges in the way the river banks are. Pretty interesting, if one is into that kind of thing.
14:02:20 <clsn> .title http://fax.libs.uga.edu/QB61xT994/1f/celestial_amusements.pdf
14:02:22 <phenny> clsn: Document isn't HTML
14:02:25 <clsn> Feh.
14:02:26 * sbp is
14:02:30 <clsn> Anyway, that sounds right...
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14:03:36 <bjoern_> .title http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlRmo5zA8gtOACK4zA3WOmpJxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104060007AAD2OMh
14:03:40 <phenny> bjoern_: I'm a fat guy that's ENORMOUSLY attracted to thin women. Can you still get a thin woman when you're fat? - Yahoo! Answers
14:04:00 <therethinker> Haha
14:04:03 <sbp> "Nope. You leave the thin women to the buff guys like me."
14:04:06 <tommorris> Answer - "Yes, Google 'heterosexual chubby chasers'"
14:04:10 <therethinker> Yes: Get skinny
14:04:22 <sbp> "Excuse me but 6Pac or whattevvva get a life. Anyway. Yes you can. If the woman likes you she should be able to get past physical appearence and see the inner you! (:" - a lying woman
14:04:36 <therethinker> haha
14:05:00 <sbp> what the... "Comb your eyebrows with your tongue, you'll have no problems getting any girl."
14:05:08 <clsn> I've heard that joke...
14:05:19 * therethinker tries to comb eybrows w/ tongue
14:05:39 <clsn> "Wow, how did that ugly guy at the bar get the girl to go home with him? What did he say?" "Nothing, he just sat there licking his eyebrows..."
14:07:33 <bjoern_> .title http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AswiHUtY8faat48ivoleN_oGBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20071104062400AALaB5o
14:07:36 <phenny> bjoern_: Girls and guys please aNSER THIS WITH 100% TRUTH? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers
14:08:51 <sbp> "Yes, looks like a girl, until I saw the penis hanging out in the over 18 pic."
14:11:56 <clsn> Oog.
14:12:07 * bjoern_ resumes watching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_end_in_sight
14:13:50 <sbp> and I was. um. thinking about SPARQL
14:17:57 * therethinker realizes how easy it would be to make a super-small Ogg Vorbis player using the V1000-L chip
14:18:09 <therethinker> It does everything for you...
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14:19:33 <therethinker> Just add NAND flash and a clock
14:19:51 <sbp> now that's interesting
14:19:57 <sbp> .g V1000-L
14:19:59 <phenny> sbp: http://www.ic2ic.com/search.jsp?sSearchWord=V1000L-P&prefix=V
14:20:20 <therethinker> http://www.vlsi.fi/appnotes/guide_vs1000.pdf
14:20:28 <bjoern_> ITS NOT U JUST WANT A DISTRACTION FROM TERRIBLE SEMWEB STUFFZ !!
14:20:42 <sbp> yes... shup foo
14:20:44 <tommorris> Just had a look in the Programming section of Yahoo Answers. "Help with Java?" is not a question
14:20:56 <therethinker> haha
14:21:23 <therethinker> MG054S05X150DP
14:21:34 <tommorris> Any surprise - it's someone asking for help with his college work.
14:21:50 * therethinker is surprised
14:22:02 <therethinker> I thought it would be someoen in high-school ;-)
14:22:28 <tommorris> Oh, "honours project". UK spelling. Dunno.
14:23:43 <sbp> therethinker: costs $20, not bad
14:23:52 <sbp> might be able to roll your own for like $50
14:24:40 <therethinker> I know! I'm excited
14:24:42 <therethinker> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=204
14:24:47 <therethinker> Woops
14:24:48 <therethinker> I mean
14:24:52 <therethinker> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8300
14:25:13 <therethinker> If only I could use SD cards for the memory...
14:25:35 <sbp> thinking about making it microscopic too, eh?
14:25:40 <therethinker> Yeah
14:25:46 <therethinker> MicroSD cards!
14:25:59 <sbp> "aPod. The portable music player that fits in your ass."
14:26:09 <therethinker> Ha!
14:26:23 <therethinker> Smaller than an RFID taag!
14:26:44 <sbp> I think there are aleady some MP3 player watches though
14:26:49 <therethinker> Yeah
14:26:52 <sbp> not OGG, clearly
14:27:03 <therethinker> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8184 -- I was thinking of using 2 of those for all the switches
14:27:33 <sbp> so you'd just have forward and back capabilities?
14:27:35 <sbp> how about a display?
14:27:39 <therethinker> Naw
14:27:46 <therethinker> I'd have to program ;-)
14:27:58 <therethinker> It has a ton of built-in stuff
14:28:12 <sbp> you could just have one switch, if you made it be a shuffle
14:28:15 <therethinker> Much more than I'd expect
14:28:26 <therethinker> Yeah, there's a shuffle button on it
14:28:39 <sbp> sorta like "one click to start. one click to say this track sucks so move onto the next track. hit it with a hammer to stop it"
14:28:57 <therethinker> Page 17/18 of the datasheet
14:30:43 <sbp> heh. I just started playing something and then realised I needed to do a seven fret stretch to do the last chord, and somehow I managed it. that was quite something
14:31:07 <crschmidt> http://hypercube.telascience.org/openaerialmap/?lon=-78.24405&lat=35.48286&zoom=18&layers=B <- johnston county aerial maps vs. landsat
14:31:08 <sbp> 4 11 x x x x
14:31:10 <tommorris> 1. Get iPod nano and remote control. 2. Attach remote control, wrap iPod in clingfilm. 3. Insert.
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14:32:27 * sbp presumes tommorris refers to the old school nano and not the phatty
14:32:40 <tommorris> Adjust for preference
14:32:51 <sbp> crschmidt: bit better
14:32:55 <sbp> hehe
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14:33:13 * therethinker wonders what tommorris is talking about
14:33:36 <sbp> crschmidt: got any UK maps?
14:35:00 <crschmidt> sbp: I haven't been looking, but I doubt it
14:35:06 <therethinker> Is there some magical way to turn a PDF into a schematic so I can make the PCB wo/ redoing the schematic?
14:35:14 * therethinker is lazy
14:35:15 <cre8radix> hey'all
14:35:31 <therethinker> hey
14:35:45 * mmmmmrob wonders where would be a good place to ask questions about linking with libstdc++ and why a shared-object can't find it at runtime.
14:36:09 <sbp> mmmmmrob: here sometimes
14:36:13 <sbp> possibly not now though
14:36:26 <crschmidt> sounds kinda like a deltab question
14:36:30 <sbp> sounds like a question that kpreid or jsled might be most... heh
14:36:40 <sbp> or deltab, indeed. deltab can answer anything if he's here
14:36:58 <sbp> possibly Arnia or laplink or bjoern_ too
14:37:20 <clsn> (bah. a shared-object couldn't find its ass with both hands...)
14:37:31 <crschmidt> clsn: no its ipod
14:37:31 <mmmmmrob> well, I'll give it a try then ;-)
14:37:33 <crschmidt> nor*
14:38:08 <mmmmmrob> my shared-object builds just fine, but at runtime complains that it can't find libstdc++.so.6
14:38:41 <mmmmmrob> doing a find shows that libstdc++.so.6 is in /usr/lib/
14:38:53 <mmmmmrob> s/lib/lib64
14:39:02 <clsn> Is your LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to something weird?
14:39:11 <clsn> Is /usr/lib4 not in the default library path?
14:39:16 <clsn> um. lib64
14:39:22 <mmmmmrob> clsn, the so is being called from Java via JNI
14:39:33 <clsn> Ugh, even worse.
14:39:42 <deltab> run ldd
14:39:42 <mmmmmrob> the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set and includes /usr/lib64/
14:39:53 <deltab> oh
14:40:16 <deltab> strace -e file
14:40:21 <mmmmmrob> clsn: how do I check the default library path?
14:40:52 <mmmmmrob> strace: command not found :-(
14:40:52 * therethinker thinks about hooking the player up to a triple-axis accelerometer
14:41:14 <sbp> LOOK MA NO BUTTANZ
14:41:25 <cre8radix> hrhr
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14:41:42 <clsn> Oh sheez. http://www.yankodesign.com/?p=515
14:41:45 * therethinker tries to play his favorite song by swinging it around
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14:42:22 <sbp> clsn: that's awesome
14:42:22 <therethinker> Err... how would you turn the screen in half?
14:42:32 <sbp> yeah, I was wondering that...
14:42:44 <mmmmmrob> deltab: ldd on my .so says /lib/tls/libc.so.6 version 'GLIBC_2.4' not found
14:42:57 <sbp> just a proof of concept
14:43:15 <clsn> googling for rubik cube mp3 player gives a lot of hits, but I think they're all the same one.
14:43:19 <cre8radix> phenny: tell d8uv #tribalradix misses him
14:43:21 <phenny> cre8radix: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around. I'll have to use a pastebin, though, so your message may get lost.
14:43:26 <mmmmmrob> deltab: /lib/tls/libc.so.6 is there
14:43:27 <cre8radix> OMG
14:43:34 * cre8radix dials 911
14:43:36 <therethinker> OMFSM
14:43:52 <therethinker> wait, what?
14:44:04 <therethinker> did someone break in?
14:44:13 <crschmidt> presumably he's worried that d8uv hasn't been around recently
14:44:26 <cre8radix> phenny's brain was pastebinned
14:44:31 <therethinker> Maybes he's dead
14:44:38 <therethinker> OMFSM LINKYZ
14:44:49 <therethinker> (PLZTHXKBYE)
14:44:55 <cre8radix> WTF?
14:45:03 <therethinker> sorry... Link?
14:46:02 <cre8radix> hip hop link
14:46:04 <cre8radix> http://dasdepartment.com/audio/Brennstoff.tar.bz2
14:46:17 <mmmmmrob> clsn: could you point me at how to check my default library path? currently running on CentOS by the way
14:46:19 <cre8radix> checkit
14:46:32 * therethinker waits for computer to blow up from virus
14:46:55 <clsn> mmmmmrob: I'm actually not even positive, deltab surely knows better than I do. But let me see.
14:48:03 <deltab> nah, I'm just guessing
14:48:12 <clsn> Um... look at /etc/ld.so.conf maybe?
14:48:14 <deltab> have you tried #c++ ?
14:48:18 <mmmmmrob> clsn: aha, /etc/ld.so.conf
14:48:49 <mmmmmrob> deltab: nope, will try if you recommend, the thread started as I was asking for a recommendation on channel :-)
14:49:21 <deltab> it's probably about c++
14:49:32 * mmmmmrob wanders over to #c++
14:50:47 <sbp> d8uv was around the other day saying he's not dead
14:50:50 <sbp> so he's probably not dead
14:51:07 <sbp> he's been getting incrementally more busy it seems
14:59:31 <bjoern_> it could be a trick!
15:00:02 <crschmidt> That was my first thought as well
15:00:29 <bjoern_> why would a living person ever point out they aren't dead?
15:00:32 <bjoern_> very suspicious.
15:01:40 <deltab> and there are zombies about, scaring people on German trains
15:05:11 <bjoern_> it's all starting to make sense now.
15:09:21 <tommorris> There used to be a web service called something like "Am I Dead?" and it'd basically tell people whether or not you are dead yet.
15:10:24 <tommorris> You could do it in a distributed manner now. Base it off OpenID logins, Twitters, e-mail, anything really. Just "I'm still here" codified.
15:10:38 <bjoern_> .gc "Essential viewing for any patriot."
15:10:41 <phenny> "Essential viewing for any patriot.": 139
15:14:05 <bjoern_> .gc "Want to kick start a drinking problem?"
15:14:07 <phenny> "Want to kick start a drinking problem?": 3
15:21:43 <edsu> sbp: hahaha about hTurtle :)
15:22:15 <edsu> sbp: although that would've been wonderful april 1st material
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15:34:18 <sbp> edsu: oh, you saw it on microformats-new then I take it? :-)
15:34:44 <edsu> yeah, and the sw one you posted to as well, spammer
15:34:50 <sbp> *cough* *cough*
15:35:00 <sbp> I'd've posted to more if I only knew where else to spam to
15:35:04 <edsu> heh
15:35:09 <sbp> it'll be interesting to see what reaction there is, if any
15:35:22 <sbp> especially if there are any value judgements
15:35:27 <sbp> especially on microformats-new
15:35:29 <edsu> well you awakened the tantek
15:35:32 <sbp> ooh!
15:35:37 * sbp looks
15:35:37 <tommorris> Could be useful for embedding things like owl:sameAs
15:35:46 <tommorris> Yep, you be naughty in Tantek's books.
15:35:50 <tommorris> Breaking the principles.
15:36:37 <sbp> ahaha, this is brilliant
15:36:51 <tommorris> Trolling mf-new often is. ;)
15:37:01 <edsu> why do i feel like he is walking into a snare you have set? :)
15:37:32 <bjoern_> url plz
15:37:36 <sbp> actually this is even better than I thought it'd be. I thought it might potentially be good
15:37:40 <sbp> but this is shaping up to be superb
15:37:56 <sbp> bjoern_: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-November/thread.html#1266
15:39:03 <sbp> <3
15:39:24 <edsu> sbp: i eagerly await the next installment :)
15:39:28 <bjoern_> u should feel terrible now! bad bad sbp!
15:39:41 <sbp> I'm not even sure what to do. there's soooo much opportunity
15:40:02 <bjoern_> I would cry!
15:41:08 <sbp> in their defence, I think they are trying to be helpful
15:41:16 <sbp> well except for that Tom Morris guy. what the fuck is he on?
15:41:54 <sbp> I actually kinda want to reply to Reynen most of all
15:41:55 <sbp> [[[
15:41:56 <sbp> This may seem pedantic, but given your interest in semantics, I'm sure
15:41:56 <sbp> you can appreciate our interest in keeping the term "microformat"
15:41:56 <sbp> meaningful, not just another buzz word.
15:41:56 <sbp> ]]]
15:42:00 <sbp> - http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-November/001270.html
15:42:14 <sbp> I mean there's *so* much scope for reply to that it's frightening
15:42:44 <edsu> The Process has known side-effects on proper brain functioning
15:42:49 <sbp> hehehe
15:42:57 <bjoern_> You could retaliate by making a semweb microformat task force and joining google.
15:43:08 <sbp> hahaha
15:44:23 <edsu> sbp: do you really dislike the rdfa work?
15:44:40 <sbp> well, my "really dislike" isn't most people's "really dislike"
15:45:52 <edsu> sbp: you mean like: dislike of the semantic web in general?
15:46:04 <edsu> sbp: i figured that much :)
15:46:49 <sbp> I don't think any RDF-in-HTML solution really compels me particularly
15:47:15 <sbp> they're all batshit bonkers *at least* because HTML just wasn't made for it
15:47:22 <sbp> [insert Ted Nelson hamburger quote here]
15:47:33 <bjoern_> how, you control the logs!
15:47:47 <sbp> oh yeah. treat it as a note to self then
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15:48:08 <sbp> tsk. now what you said won't make sense
15:48:21 <sbp> I'll have to make you say something about the American government being doofuses instead
15:48:45 <bjoern_> I would never say anything like that.
15:48:50 <sbp> or just REDACT the whole day into a play about the sunshine in Nicaragua
15:49:37 <bjoern_> We could donate today's log to some good cause.
15:49:42 <edsu> was html made for deploying ajax applications?
15:50:03 <bjoern_> no? and that's why those suck so hard?
15:50:14 <edsu> :)
15:51:13 <sbp> even if they did rock, some mutations work and some are doomed to failure
15:51:30 <edsu> somehow invoking ted nelson to call someone else batshit bonkers seems, ironic
15:51:33 <sbp> I think RDF-in-HTML has proven itself to be doomed to failure
15:51:34 <sbp> heh, heh
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15:52:17 <edsu> sbp: yeah, i tend to agree that's it's probably going to follow the same path as metadata in the <head>
15:52:17 <sbp> maintaining HTML is such a pain in the ass that if you have to start maintaining data along with it too...
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15:52:38 <sbp> heh, yeah. @rel="keywords"
15:52:40 <sbp> good stuff
15:53:06 <tommorris> Lightweight domain-specific GRDDL formats == win.
15:53:12 <sbp> microformats strike me as HTML made screen-scrapable on steroids. or on something... perhaps not steroids
15:53:22 <sbp> tommorris: ah! well you'd think so
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15:53:30 <sbp> but I actually don't see them being used all that much, really
15:53:47 <bjoern_> what! it's all over the blogs!
15:53:48 <tommorris> Huzzah: http://tommorris.org/profiles/nsfw
15:53:54 <sbp> I think probably because when you go *Light*weight, the data you create is trivial
15:54:16 <sbp> ooh. porn-aggregation made easy
15:54:25 <edsu> see, see!
15:54:35 <tommorris> I did suggest hPorn a while back.
15:54:45 <sbp> "(both *very* NSFW, btw)" - hehe
15:54:46 <bjoern_> .g hPorn
15:54:48 <phenny> bjoern_: http://hporn.com/
15:55:07 <tommorris> See http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2006-10-21#T150925
15:56:38 <tommorris> The domain-specific bit is important too. Coming up with The One Definitive Set Of Classnames is fine for some things.
15:57:11 <sbp> sure, but, like... hmm
15:57:13 <sbp> how to put this
15:57:19 <tommorris> But, for instance, imagine if a conference had <a rel="attendee" href="http://example.org">Example Person</a>
15:57:28 <sbp> I'd still rather maintain my FOAF file in Turtle than in HTML with the best possible mf you could throw at it
15:57:41 <sbp> even with hTurtle :-)
15:57:55 <tommorris> Indeed. My FOAF is in N3, then converted to XML with CWM.
15:59:34 <sbp> hmm
15:59:36 <sbp> 'So as Scott said, "hTurtle" is not a microformat, but worse than that'
15:59:42 * sbp just realised the great potential in that too
16:00:13 <tommorris> You were trolling for ironic quotes to put on the specification, right?
16:00:17 <sbp> heh!
16:00:25 <sbp> dang, what a good idea
16:00:44 <edsu> tommorris++
16:01:35 <tommorris> How about "Absolutely, positively the worst microformat ever proposed"? :)
16:01:47 <sbp> if you'd be willing to post that to list, that'd be great
16:01:54 <sbp> s/to list/to THE list/
16:02:29 * edsu was going to respond with "this ain't no Microformat" type of comment, and held back :)
16:02:56 <tommorris> Feel free to quote me on it, but I'm not posting it to mf-new
16:03:03 <sbp> in case you're wondering, by the way, this wasn't primarily a troll
16:03:09 <sbp> the main two reasons were:
16:03:10 <tommorris> I have a reputation to protect.
16:03:24 <sbp> * inspiration from an argument with DanC the other day about Turtle as a knowledge capturing format
16:03:34 <sbp> * to test out the Turtle etc. tools I've been writing
16:04:00 <sbp> * to (this is the primary reason) demonstrate the GRDDL non-XSLT-to-XSLT hack I wrote about the other day and that people have been picking up
16:04:13 <tommorris> Could you extend the service to collect Turtle from <code class="turtle"> elements
16:04:19 <sbp> (I forgot the primary reason for a moment there...)
16:04:33 <tommorris> That way, people could choose whether or not to make it visible.
16:04:35 <sbp> tommorris: problem is then you can't use <, which is sort of a shit
16:04:56 <tommorris> < ?
16:04:58 <edsu> heh
16:05:04 <sbp> yeah, but that'd look horrible
16:05:18 <edsu> sbp: is Trio new?
16:05:27 <sbp> Trio's pretty new, yeah
16:05:37 <sbp> it's just sorta accumulating various bits of code that I write to do other things
16:05:53 <sbp> I thought I'd better give it an umbrella name because it'll no doubt turn into some API
16:06:04 <sbp> and lo and behold! it already has done, pretty much, just to get hTurtle working
16:06:15 <sbp> most of this is being written for the Semantic Web survey
16:06:20 <sbp> but again, dual purposes, dual purposes
16:06:33 <sbp> rdfxml.py was for Joe Presbrey/FOAF Whitelisting too
16:06:39 <edsu> rdfxml.py is your 10kb rdf parser right?
16:06:47 <edsu> inside of trio?
16:06:48 <sbp> no, that's the 2004 version
16:06:52 <edsu> oh, gotcha
16:06:53 <bjoern_> this is all sick swig shit
16:06:53 <sbp> I just rewrote it the other day
16:07:03 <sbp> so that it's now super-fast and super-compliant etc.
16:07:11 <edsu> sweet
16:07:20 <sbp> when I released the previous one, the RDF/XML spec hadn't even gone to REC
16:07:31 <edsu> :)
16:08:03 <sbp> tommorris: I think the bottom line is that you can't make a decent format out of hTurtle, though I can imagine I might call upon it in the future for one or two things. embedding schemata, for example
16:08:06 * edsu likes the name, trio
16:08:32 <tommorris> Indeed. And I might use it for lazy owl:sameAs representation.
16:08:34 <sbp> so at that point I might go and extend it to parsing <pre class="turtle"> sections, yeah, and person <code ...> too if you're actually going to *use* that somewhere
16:08:44 <sbp> edsu: thanks! it's Welsh for "try", so fits with cwm et al.
16:08:46 <bjoern_> oh I like the "anithetical to microformat principles" comment
16:08:49 <sbp> but also, of course, triple...
16:09:00 <bjoern_> .gc anithetical
16:09:02 <phenny> anithetical: 764
16:09:15 <sbp> .gc antiheretical
16:09:18 <phenny> antiheretical: 1,170
16:09:29 <bjoern_> .gc antiheretical
16:09:32 <phenny> antiheretical: 1,170
16:09:38 <edsu> sbp: what's the semantic web survey, and the role of trio in it?
16:09:47 <bjoern_> good thinking sbp!
16:10:07 <sbp> edsu: I was just sorta interested in what's out there on the Semantic Web, so I went and crawled something like 23 million triples from 2800 or so sites
16:10:09 <tommorris> Hey, bjoern_, plagiarism ain't funny - even if it is on mf-new.
16:10:27 <bjoern_> mf-new?
16:10:29 <sbp> so I have all this data lying around waiting to be analysed in "fun" ways
16:10:41 <edsu> sbp: no shit? how did you identify the 2800?
16:10:45 <sbp> but before I do I sorta want to do a less than baseline-crap job of it
16:10:46 <tommorris> Oh, you only posted it to semantic-web.
16:11:08 <sbp> so I'm writing various bits of toolkittery to handle that, as well as doing plenty of other little l33t hax that they're useful for
16:11:09 <edsu> s/shit/way/
16:11:14 <bjoern_> It's a dirty job, but someone gotta do it!
16:11:18 <sbp> identifying the 2800... well I got things from various sources
16:11:34 <sbp> existing crawl lists, places I know of from experience, Google, all kinds of crap
16:11:44 <sbp> plus of course just following URIs that you get from other RDF
16:11:57 <edsu> cool, so it's kind of like your own personal dbpedia sorta?
16:12:10 <sbp> right. basically I was going for *diversity* over quantity, too
16:12:21 <sbp> so I wasn't interested in, say, getting all FOAF files, or all DOAP files, etc.
16:12:28 <crschmidt> which is why he ignored most of livejournal :)
16:12:33 <sbp> I wanna see what ontologies people are using, distribution patterns, and so on
16:12:45 <sbp> all of livejournal, I think. or... yeah probably one or two slipped in
16:12:47 <bjoern_> everybody in their right mind ignores most of livejournal.
16:13:10 * crschmidt met his wife via LiveJournal
16:13:35 <sbp> I have to say that for the most part the results aren't encouraging. I did do some work on getting a list of the Most Diversely Used ontologies, via some fun metrics, and going through the list... not much exciting stuff I have to say. one or two things though!
16:13:51 <crschmidt> and, via my work on LiveJournal, I was introduced to the semantic web (by fixing the FOAF bug)
16:14:06 <crschmidt> which is what ended up having me meet zool/Schuyler
16:14:17 <crschmidt> so, my current job could also be said to be as a result of working on LiveJournal
16:15:00 <sbp> yeah. but you might've been retired on a beach in Malibu by now if you hadn't... :-)
16:15:14 <crschmidt> It's possible, but I can't imagine how
16:15:32 <tommorris> You know LiveJournal still returns ungrounded FOAF?
16:15:34 <bjoern_> you could post on lj asking people to comment on how...
16:15:39 <sbp> well like if you'd fallen in with the microformat people instead, for example
16:15:56 <sbp> 1) Microformats
16:15:58 <sbp> 2) ???
16:16:00 <sbp> 3) Malibu!
16:16:10 <tommorris> no rdf:about on the primary foaf:Person.
16:16:58 <edsu> if ffx3 does ship with uf/rdfa/etc support the scene could change a bit
16:17:14 <edsu> no?
16:17:24 <crschmidt> tommorris: And?
16:17:32 <edsu> perhaps The Process burnt my brain too...
16:17:33 <tommorris> It's borken!!1
16:17:43 <crschmidt> you think that LiveJournal should be inventing URIs for people?
16:17:46 <crschmidt> I don't think so
16:18:42 <tommorris> Well, at least make it something like #me and use a primaryProfileDocument or something.
16:19:12 <sbp> edsu: well I'm not afraid to make out and out predictions and hang my head in shame later, so I'm going to say: no. it will continue to suck. on the other hand I don't really think "Web 2.0" has added anything to the web either, except maybe being able to use the CC stuff from Flickr. people I'm being too ego-centric about it or something... so many people love all this shit
16:19:33 <crschmidt> tommorris: #me is still inventing a URL for a person
16:19:40 <sbp> I just wonder whether people like microformats for what they enable, or for The Process
16:19:44 <sbp> making specifications is fun!
16:19:51 <sbp> implementing specifications is booOooring
16:20:09 * sbp can say quite confidently given he's spent the last N days doing that quite feverently
16:20:16 <tommorris> The Process is useful in some circumstances - it keeps some of the Homebrew Anarchy out.
16:20:41 <sbp> I doubt there'd be much problem if the Homebrew Anarchy was let in
16:20:55 <sbp> is hTurtle going to damage the microformats name, do you think?
16:21:01 <tommorris> Unlikely.
16:21:07 <sbp> (or perhaps that's not what you mean by Homebrew Anarchy? :-)
16:21:30 <sbp> note the aims of hTurtle again:
16:21:31 <sbp> 16:30 <sbp> * inspiration from an argument with DanC the other day about Turtle as a knowledge capturing format
16:21:32 <sbp> 16:30 <sbp> * to test out the Turtle etc. tools I've been writing
16:21:32 <sbp> 16:31 <sbp> * to (this is the primary reason) demonstrate the GRDDL non-XSLT-to-XSLT hack I wrote about the other day and that people have been picking up
16:21:32 <tommorris> No, what I mean is that if you don't namespace things, you gotta be very conservative. That's what the mf people are being.
16:21:37 <sbp> it's fulfilled each one of those aims already
16:21:42 <sbp> it's done, it's finished, it won
16:21:58 <sbp> namespace? oh, I see
16:22:04 <sbp> yeah, well my shit is namespaced...
16:22:11 <tommorris> that said, they shat a brick when I originally named GetSemantic "macroformats"
16:22:19 <sbp> hehe, why's that?
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16:22:47 <tommorris> Confusion etc.
16:22:57 <tommorris> I relented eventually.
16:23:29 <sbp> hehe. see I just don't care about that stuff
16:23:33 <sbp> as long as you're not being rude
16:23:44 <sbp> but it's a fine line between being rude and survival of the fittest
16:23:46 <tommorris> .gc macroformats
16:23:47 <sbp> so for example
16:23:48 <phenny> macroformats: 38,200
16:23:51 <tommorris> That was the other reason.
16:24:00 <sbp> I'll apologise for naming hTurtle hTurtle, given that I was ignorant of the rules
16:24:05 <sbp> but I won't flipping change it
16:25:40 <edsu> good for you ... too many rules in that community imho
16:25:56 <sbp> and if it's caused by namespacelessness...
16:25:56 <edsu> not enough rule makers
16:26:01 <sbp> then it's down to teh stupid
16:26:06 <edsu> aye
16:26:25 <tommorris> Indeed. And there's a reason to use namespaces or namespace-like things (head/@profile)
16:26:34 <sbp> (also, who else is going to name something hTurtle? an amphibians expert?)
16:26:41 <edsu> :)
16:27:59 <sbp> hmm, I'd better reserve @class="turtle"
16:28:09 <sbp> and put in a note about what stuff may change and blah blah
16:28:21 <bjoern_> you know, when I asked yesterday whether hTurtle is the latest µformat
16:28:25 <sbp> just in case anyone does actually use it. there are lots of weirdos out there
16:28:27 <bjoern_> I was really trying to make fun of you...
16:28:36 <sbp> yeah, I know :-)
16:29:27 <sbp> (if you're kidding *now*, though, then I was wrong twice)
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16:30:41 <bjoern_> THATS CLASSIFIED
16:30:47 <sbp> hehe
16:32:32 <sbp> okay, added: <li>@class="turtle" is reserved for future extension</li>
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16:52:51 * Arnia prods around for more category theorists
16:54:31 <kpreid> .gc "category theorist"
16:54:33 <phenny> "category theorist": 514
16:54:35 <kpreid> .gc "category practitioner"
16:54:37 <phenny> "category practitioner": 143
16:55:33 <nsh> .wik Green's function
16:55:36 <phenny> "In mathematics, Green's function is a type of function used to solve inhomogeneous differential equations subject to boundary conditions." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green's_function
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17:15:42 <bjoern_> there, hturtle triggeres another new formats vs old formats debate
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17:15:46 <Monty> howdy, maxkelley_
17:16:00 <bjoern_> lolpipz Monty wants to speak to you
17:16:04 <Monty> no? and guys please aNSER THIS WITH 100% TRUTH? - hehe
17:16:26 <lolpipz> bjoern_: ENOUGH ABOUT ME, LETZ TALK ABOUT MUH DRESZ.
17:16:45 <bjoern_> lolpipz, ok...
17:16:46 <lolpipz> bjoern_: ACTUALLY THAT WAZ JUS JOKE. I DONT HAVE DRESZ.
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17:23:07 <bjoern_> .gc +"hU.S."
17:23:09 <phenny> +"hU.S.": 760,000
17:23:25 <bjoern_> there goes that idea.
17:23:33 <bjoern_> .gc hNazi
17:23:34 <phenny> hNazi: 243
17:28:20 <sbp> hehe
17:28:53 <nsh> phenny, help .head
17:28:53 <phenny> Sorry, no documentation for .head.
17:29:14 <bjoern_> I'd call it hiGOpenSocial2.0Beta
17:29:24 <nsh> .head http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk status
17:31:02 <nsh> .head http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk
17:32:54 <bjoern_> iz down
17:33:14 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk
17:33:47 <nsh> iz suck
17:34:52 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk
17:35:14 <nsh> iz okey phenny, u tryd
17:36:17 <sbp> she tried SO HARD
17:36:33 <bjoern_> SO FUCKING HARD !!
17:36:54 <bjoern_> .gc hFuck
17:36:58 <phenny> hFuck: 789
17:37:03 <nsh> .gc gFuck
17:37:06 <phenny> gFuck: 10,200
17:37:12 <nsh> .gc xFuck
17:37:15 <phenny> xFuck: 676
17:37:25 <nsh> .gc kFuck
17:37:27 <phenny> kFuck: 4,360
17:37:37 <sbp> hFuck might be short for hyperfuck
17:37:42 <sbp> .compare sFuck uFuck
17:37:45 <phenny> uFuck (11,900), sFuck (706)
17:37:46 <sbp> superfuck? ultrafuck?
17:37:52 <nsh> hmm
17:38:02 <nsh> .compare aFuck bFuck cFuck dFuck eFuck
17:38:06 <phenny> eFuck (35,600), dFuck (15,100), aFuck (9,810), bFuck (2,520), cFuck (729)
17:38:12 <sbp> you can do up to seven now
17:38:17 <nsh> cool
17:38:32 <nsh> .compare gFuck hFuck iFuck jFuck kFuck lFuck mFuck
17:38:42 <phenny> iFuck (22,200), gFuck (10,200), kFuck (4,360), jFuck (1,580), mFuck (1,320), hFuck (789), lFuck (516)
17:38:45 <nsh> .compare nFuck oFuck p Fuck jFuck kFuck lFuck mFuck
17:38:45 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, can only compare up to seven terms or phrases.
17:38:50 <nsh> bah
17:38:51 <sbp> you missed f
17:39:04 <nsh> nah, that'll be typomaxed out
17:39:12 <sbp> hehe
17:39:18 <sbp> .gc fFuck
17:39:19 <phenny> fFuck: 26,800
17:39:21 <nsh> .compare nFuck oFuck pFuck qFuck rFuck sFuck tFuck
17:39:25 <phenny> tFuck (10,400), nFuck (4,780), oFuck (3,340), qFuck (2,980), pFuck (1,960), rFuck (717), sFuck (706)
17:39:37 <nsh> .compare uFuck vFuck wFuck xFuck yFuck zFuck
17:39:41 <phenny> uFuck (11,900), yFuck (1,820), wFuck (1,450), vFuck (796), xFuck (680), zFuck (436)
17:39:52 <sbp> eFuck winz
17:40:08 <nsh> aye
17:40:47 <nsh> Monty, you work on the fucksuffixen
17:40:47 <Monty> screw you
17:40:51 <nsh> hey man
17:40:59 <sbp> hehe
17:41:29 <bjoern_> sometimes I wonder whether the Donate! graphics are specifically adapted to the content http://e.photos.cx/wikms-c54.png
17:41:55 <bjoern_> .gc hMasturbation
17:41:58 <phenny> hMasturbation: 15
17:42:02 <bjoern_> dang
17:42:09 <nsh> lols
17:42:15 <sbp> .gc hWank
17:42:18 <phenny> hWank: 3,440
17:43:31 <bjoern_> .gc "The great hWars"
17:43:34 <phenny> "The great hWars": 0
17:43:57 <clsn> .gc μFuck
17:43:59 <phenny> μFuck: 0
17:44:05 <clsn> (a very little one)
17:44:13 <bjoern_> I know those.
17:45:02 <sbp> Monty: YOU LITTLE FUCK
17:45:03 <Monty> screw you
17:45:34 <bjoern_> .gc µPenis
17:45:37 <phenny> µPenis: 8
17:45:55 <bjoern_> now I get the h/µ thing.
17:46:03 <sbp> .gc µMeta
17:46:06 <phenny> µMeta: 4
17:46:10 <bjoern_> .gc µRDF
17:46:13 <phenny> µRDF: 48
17:46:40 <sbp> I just thought it stood for "html". screw the micropun
17:47:06 <bjoern_> I thought it's hyperSomething
17:47:23 * clsn is hyperSomething.
17:47:23 <sbp> what do you think the h in html stands for?
17:47:38 <sbp> HOBO TITRATION MARKUP LANGUAGE
17:47:46 <bjoern_> Well my expansion was less specific than yours.
17:47:53 <clsn> I thought the h was for "Hey, this is how to write web pages, moron!"
17:47:56 <sbp> troo
17:48:09 * sbp has broken more than his fair share of titration tubes over the years
17:48:26 <bjoern_> also, you very well know it's Google's Terrifying Markup Language.
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17:49:31 <sbp> .wik Dipper (bird)
17:49:35 <phenny> "The White-throated Dipper (Cinclus cinclus) is an aquatic passerine bird found in Europe and the Middle East, also known as the European Dipper or just Dipper." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-throated_Dipper
17:49:49 <bjoern_> pervert bird.
17:50:07 <bjoern_> .gc µTurtle
17:50:09 <phenny> µTurtle: 4
17:50:32 <bjoern_> @translate en to de turtle
17:50:37 <supybot> bjoern_: Schildkröte
17:50:47 <bjoern_> .gc µSchildkröte
17:50:48 <phenny> µSchildkröte: 0
17:50:54 <bjoern_> there! with umlauts!
17:51:06 <sbp> but... zero results!
17:51:09 <sbp> find one with results!
17:51:20 <bjoern_> Why !!
17:51:27 <bjoern_> surely you'd want a new name.
17:51:30 <clsn> μצב
17:51:34 <clsn> .gc μצב
17:51:35 <phenny> μצב: 0
17:51:44 <clsn> wow, bidi screwed things up there... :)
17:51:54 <bjoern_> hehe, even I got a response on semweb@
17:51:57 <sbp> yeah but in that case I can invent any old crap
17:52:06 <sbp> you sent something to semweb@?
17:52:26 <bjoern_> you asked for it!
17:52:28 <sbp> bloody hell, you did
17:52:50 <bjoern_> u and ur not-paying-attention
17:52:56 <sbp> oh! now I understand things!
17:53:00 <sbp> like anithetical
17:53:05 <sbp> the awesomeness continues!
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17:53:25 <sbp> ahahaha. thanks for your message
17:55:22 <danja> your welcome - what a miserable bunch, eh
17:55:34 <sbp> oh, I was talking to bjoern_. but yours too!
17:55:42 <sbp> I didn't even see you come in, hehe. hello!
17:55:49 <bjoern_> I did it all for the lols!
17:55:56 <crschmidt> hm
17:55:57 <bjoern_> and for being called a plagiarist, of course.
17:55:57 <sbp> I have a great set of quotes now
17:56:06 <crschmidt> These must not be on mf-new
17:56:08 * danja grins, blushes, breaks wind & blushes again
17:56:20 <bjoern_> hehe
17:56:33 <sbp> crschmidt: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2007Nov/
17:57:19 <crschmidt> there's a 'semantic-web' list at w3c now? it's no longer just an interest group?
17:57:46 <bjoern_> the rdf interest group mailing list was renamed, essentially
17:57:46 <sbp> yeah it's been there since like 2000
17:57:49 <sbp> right
17:58:04 <sbp> they just hijacked that old list for the new SWIG one
17:58:07 <sbp> since it wasn't being used
17:58:41 <crschmidt> I thought the SWIG list was something-discuss
17:58:47 <crschmidt> Even after they changed
17:58:50 <crschmidt> Was I wrong? I must have been
17:58:51 <crschmidt> oh well
17:59:02 <bjoern_> is there any -discuss list?
17:59:21 <sbp> not that I know of
17:59:23 <crschmidt> Thinking about it, no
17:59:29 <crschmidt> I don't know why I thought it was something ifferent
17:59:46 <nsh> .ety savilian
17:59:49 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "savilian". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=savilian
17:59:54 <bjoern_> 6 even
17:59:57 <nsh> .wik Savilian professor
18:00:00 <phenny> "For Savilian Professor see" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savilian_professor
18:00:06 <sbp> huh, really?
18:00:06 <bjoern_> like http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-email-discuss/
18:00:14 <sbp> freakeh
18:00:15 <danja> sbp, what's the gall for - ink?
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18:00:23 <sbp> danja: correct!
18:00:36 <danja> got a good recipe? we get the things around here
18:00:42 <sbp> now I need to get all other kinds of crazy things
18:00:48 <sbp> yeah, I found a good one that involves beer
18:00:54 <sbp> two birds with one stone and all that
18:01:09 <sbp> will write it up of course
18:01:31 <danja> I don't usually produce ink when I drink beer
18:01:34 <bjoern_> scissors and stone beat bird, bird beats paper?
18:02:25 <bjoern_> phenny, de "Tintenfisch"?
18:02:28 <phenny> bjoern_: "Tintenfisch" (de)
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18:03:40 <bjoern_> .gc "ink fish"
18:03:43 <phenny> "ink fish": 788
18:03:45 <danja> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gum_arabic#Political_Aspects is entertaining
18:04:00 <danja> found a gum smuggler, sbp?
18:04:22 <sbp> heh, that is funny
18:04:32 <sbp> I was just gonna scrape it off the pavements
18:04:33 <bjoern_> ""I wikipedia now instead of google my searches." — Michael Patronik"
18:04:54 <sbp> I actually can't remember what's in the recipe; I haven't seen it for ages
18:05:00 <sbp> because I ordered the galls for the first time many months ago
18:05:13 <sbp> and had completely forgotten about it by the time the lady emailed me saying she went and picked some
18:05:23 <bjoern_> you could barbecue them, like you would a rat.
18:05:26 <bjoern_> ... IN A ROBOT.
18:05:37 <sbp> E_TOOMANYMEMES
18:05:40 <crschmidt> the url i just [off]ed is a list of geodata sources making up the openaerialmap thing i've been demoing
18:06:05 <crschmidt> you can see each of the datasources, and then click through to see the map (though the blue marble and landsat map links don't really work so great)
18:06:52 <danja> .g sbp blog
18:06:54 <phenny> danja: http://survivingbullies.com/index.php/blog/
18:07:32 <bjoern_> I should make a patent on a system and method for spam detection based on phrases very badly translated by automatic translation systems.
18:07:37 <sbp> crschmidt: what's up with all the blue blobs?
18:07:43 <bjoern_> .gc "nut/mother"
18:07:44 <sbp> .g Sean B. Palmer blog
18:07:46 <phenny> "nut/mother": 11,900
18:07:48 <phenny> sbp: http://jyte.com/profile/inamidst.com
18:07:49 <sbp> .g Sean B. Palmer weblog
18:07:51 <phenny> sbp: http://miscoranda.com/
18:08:08 <crschmidt> sbp: buggy software
18:08:10 <bjoern_> .g sean blogging palmer
18:08:13 <phenny> bjoern_: http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2007/08/tactical-philanthropy-podcast-stacy-palmer-interview/
18:08:21 <crschmidt> For some reason the overview builder is adding them -- I don't know why
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18:22:16 <Monty> Thank goodness, maxkelley is back!
18:22:18 <phenny> Be quiet, Monty.
18:22:18 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
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19:03:37 * sbp fires the first salvo in the response
19:03:53 <thelsdj> sbp: our loltheist was accepted
19:03:56 <sbp> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2007Nov/0021
19:04:03 <sbp> thelsdj: ahaha, really?! awesome!
19:04:34 <sbp> when will it be going up, do you know?
19:04:38 <jinzo> crschmidt, under what license is the imagery ? ( the map ones )
19:04:57 <thelsdj> today or tomorrow i think
19:05:38 <crschmidt> jinzo: dunno. Which ones?
19:05:42 <sbp> bjoern_: you won't mind if I pass over your email, I hope. it was perfect essentially
19:05:45 <sbp> no need for a response
19:06:02 <crschmidt> jinzo: right, theres' 5 different imagery sources there
19:06:10 <crschmidt> each has source data at the URLs
19:06:35 <jinzo> but all are publicly availible ?
19:07:37 <crschmidt> I downloaded them all (with the exception of the i-cubed data) from the web
19:07:51 <jinzo> i-Cubed are bought ?
19:08:19 <crschmidt> No.
19:08:26 <crschmidt> But it's 7TB of data.
19:08:37 <jinzo> woot
19:08:54 <crschmidt> It was given to TelaScience for public hosting, but there is no clear license statement attached to it.
19:09:38 <jinzo> some really high res pics there
19:10:04 <crschmidt> yes, that's pict-earth's UAV flight post-fire
19:10:29 <crschmidt> http://hypercube.telascience.org:8080/datasource/5/ has links to pict'earth, who you can contact if you're interested in more/similar data.
19:12:47 * sbp replies to danja
19:12:51 <jinzo> the data would be usefull in combination with open street map
19:12:57 <sbp> next is teh dajobe
19:13:45 <crschmidt> jinzo: yes, I'm currently working on processing the other 300GB of imagery I already have
19:13:55 <crschmidt> once that's all done, then there will hopefully be many more uses for it.
19:14:49 <jinzo> crschmidt, may I ask how / what do you use to process the data ?
19:14:53 <crschmidt> .g gdal
19:14:56 <phenny> crschmidt: http://www.gdal.org/
19:15:02 <crschmidt> .g fwtools
19:15:04 <phenny> crschmidt: http://fwtools.maptools.org/
19:15:28 <crschmidt> the latter, more specifically, which is a pre-built package of GDAL and related tools.
19:16:37 <jinzo> interesting
19:16:45 <jinzo> if I can be any of help...
19:17:24 <crschmidt> Not unless you have access to high quality aerial or satellite imagery outside the states, or experience with debugging C-based TIFF image libraries.
19:19:20 <jinzo> I can look for the imagery, as I would be interested in imagery at least of my country, I know some sources - Will ask them what licence the imagery is / if the're planing to release it to public
19:19:57 <crschmidt> jinzo: What I'm doing at the moment is basically putting together infrastruture fore:
19:19:58 <bjoern_> .gc µSwhack
19:20:00 <phenny> µSwhack: 0
19:20:01 <crschmidt> .g openaerialmap
19:20:03 <phenny> crschmidt: http://openaerialmap.org/
19:20:15 <crschmidt> which has thus far utterly failed to actually achieve anything, so I'm going ahead and doing it, after which I'll let them know
19:20:18 <jinzo> as I'm planing to write an webapp that will combine google maps / yahoo maps / open street map / and preferably at least one local source
19:20:31 <crschmidt> You're planning to use OpenLayers, I hope.
19:22:18 <sbp> alright, replied to dajobe
19:23:19 <jinzo> still didn't decide on what to use, something that'll allowe me pull from many sources
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19:23:49 <crschmidt> Right, OpenLayers.
19:23:53 <crschmidt> :)
19:24:13 <jinzo> okay :)
19:24:16 <crschmidt> Your two options are OpenLayers or mapstraction. OpenLayers is designed for many different data sources at once, a la http://hypercube.telascience.org/fire/
19:24:34 <crschmidt> MapStraction allows you to use multiple sources, but you have to pick one at init-time.
19:24:56 <jinzo> cool, still have to finish some other stuff before I can start on this
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19:26:28 <jinzo> as the project is backed up ( partialy ) with an students organization ( dunno how to translate it ), they have quite good connections with other organizations ( which of one at least provides some partial access to imagery of our country ), and I hoped they'll do me a favour and get the data :)
19:26:50 * crschmidt nods
19:26:54 <crschmidt> Taht would be great
19:26:59 <crschmidt> I'd advise you to join the openaerialmap list
19:27:09 <crschmidt> I plan to email there as soon as I get some more of this done -- though it might not be until next week
19:28:32 <jinzo> like I said, I too have some projects to finish before I go on work with that, and school is taking a big part of my time
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19:29:34 <sbp> to people in the UK: TOP GEAR!!
19:30:18 <bjoern_> .compare "tactical love" "strategic love"
19:30:21 <phenny> "strategic love" (626), "tactical love" (279)
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19:58:04 <bjoern_> .gc "americas next top-idiot"
19:58:07 <phenny> "americas next top-idiot": 33
20:04:50 <bjoern_> "newsreader" is a funny word
20:06:52 <bjoern_> haha http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7077810.stm
20:07:12 <bjoern_> "A party supposedly involving the star was organised in Fargo, North Dakota - but it was actually a scam by officers to round up missing criminal suspects. Five hundred people with outstanding arrest warrants were sent invitations, and more than 30 suspects turned up. Osbourne said it was "insulting" that his name was used but police argued it was a "creative" way to fight crime."
20:08:35 <bjoern_> "Guinness World Records has recognised folding@home (FAH) as the world's most powerful distributed computing network. FAH has signed up nearly 700,000 PS3s to examine how the shape of proteins affect diseases such as Alzheimer's. The network has more than one petaflop of computing power - the equivalent of 1,000 trillion calculations per second." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7074547.stm
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20:34:59 <sbp> well that was awesome
20:36:34 * perigrin reads through the "That's not a turtle" thread sbp kicked off
20:38:19 <sbp> I'm just doing the microformats-new messages now
20:38:34 <sbp> first stop, Scott Reynen
20:40:02 <thelsdj> hDieDieDie
20:40:06 <thelsdj> is going to be my microformat
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21:14:04 <sbp> alright, replied to Tantek
21:14:41 <thelsdj> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slRsexrhbG8
21:14:44 <phenny> thelsdj: YouTube - HALF LIFE IN 60 SECONDS
21:25:02 <sbp> the funniest thing about the hTurtle feedback so far is that nobody's pointed out the most obvious criticism, that as a standards document, a work defining some format, hTurtle is abysmal
21:25:26 <sbp> no compliance section, a clunking reference implementation... it's pretty bad
21:25:51 <sbp> but having said that, only bjoern_ and dajobe (well, and Tantek) out of the respondants have any formal specification knowledge that I'm aware of...
21:26:00 <sbp> and making a good spec is bloody hard
21:26:14 <sbp> and it wasn't on my requirements list, as long as people understood it
21:26:22 <thelsdj> i think they assume you didn't mean it as a formal spec
21:26:33 <sbp> well, they'll assume it was meant as a microformat
21:26:52 <sbp> the average spec for which is about as rigorous as the RSS 2.0 spec...
21:27:04 <sbp> which is why nobody's brought it up yet
21:27:12 <sbp> it'd be argumentary suicide on microformats-new
21:37:05 <sbp> I'm off. 'night!
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21:50:14 <sr> huhu sbp
21:51:01 <sr> you're answer on mf-new are ... well ... I like.
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23:51:53 <KragenSitaker> My pillow?
23:59:12 <perigrin> such as
