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01:38:33 <plum> ja, welcome to the publicly logged Swhack channel
01:39:34 <jeffarch> Has plum taken over Monty's job?
01:39:41 <plum> in the dollars, not really a stock nagios deployment as we require dnx to distribute jobs to ~3-4 have fairly stringent 5-10s is this alive checks for critical services like dns.
01:39:42 <Monty> unbelievable I wonder if dock Rumex crispus) often point we shoudl totally perplexed that is only ? - 7)*6 = 876581.27707 hours for short), in NOK
01:39:49 <nslater> hmm...
01:39:55 <nslater> she wasn't meant to do that in here
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01:40:48 <nslater> fixed :p
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01:41:09 <Monty> hey mmmmmrob
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04:52:49 <Monty> bah, it's ehird again
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04:54:16 <Monty> hi mmmmmrob
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06:58:04 <Monty> yo idickinson!
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07:08:00 <Monty> it's KiYanWang!
07:08:13 * Arnia hits Monty
07:08:13 <Monty> ah..
07:08:19 <Arnia> Yeah, 'ah'
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07:11:38 <KiYanWang> Monty: hi
07:11:40 <Monty> hippies sucks Animal Village...?
07:12:05 <KiYanWang> ?
07:12:25 <Arnia> Don't feed the bots...
07:12:32 <Arnia> Well, unless you like that sort of thing
07:12:36 <Arnia> Monty, botsnack
07:12:41 <Monty> guysoft42, this setup functions get automatically when kpreid 1-0 shtoom
07:13:00 <Arnia> Great, IRC with football scores
07:13:13 <Arnia> sbp 0 - 1 Monty
07:13:14 <Monty> ha
07:13:20 <Arnia> plum: what's your score?
07:13:27 <plum> the phrase must have a temperature of 0 and or even 0 and or even 0 and or even 0 and 0, a little bird told me monty is your mother?
07:13:29 <Monty> plum: DIG's website? Or to blank cheque
07:13:33 <plum> windows manages to get people to change, so i need to go to work late.
07:13:42 <Arnia> Monty is my mother?!
07:13:43 <Monty> Tell me more about your family.
07:13:57 <Arnia> Monty: if you were my mother, you'd know
07:13:59 <Monty> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_May
07:14:05 <Arnia> …
07:15:50 <Arnia> "For the British body snatcher, James May, see London Burkers."
07:15:54 <Arnia> — ibid
07:19:14 <Arnia> Awesome paper title, "Modelling space and time in narratives about restaurants"
07:19:27 <Arnia> One of Erik T Mueller's
07:19:42 <Arnia> I'm having h2g2 flashbacks just thinking about it
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07:21:14 <Monty> welcome, laplink
07:21:25 <laplink> Monty you lie!
07:21:29 <Arnia> Why is Monty being so verbose today?
07:21:30 <Monty> dweeee-oooh
07:21:33 <Monty> Awesome paper title, "Modelling space station in the portfolio that there's three volume for dialogue writing on nettle stings. Pre-conditioning perhaps?)
07:21:45 <Arnia> dweeee-oooh?
07:21:54 <Arnia> What the hell is dweeee-oooh?
07:22:04 <laplink> .gc dweeee-oooh
07:22:05 <phenny> dweeee-oooh: 0
07:22:14 <Arnia> not for long…
07:22:46 *** laplink changed the topic to: "Home of the meta-conspiracy theorists. || An ongoing war against Googlecount Zero!"
07:23:42 <Arnia> That should go in the FAQ. Q: "Why is Swhack?" A: "An ongoing war against Googlecount Zero!"
07:24:04 <laplink> Feel free to update it...
07:24:16 <Arnia> .g swhack faq
07:24:17 <phenny> Arnia: http://swhack.com/faq/
07:24:31 <Arnia> Ok, where is the wiki version?
07:24:33 <laplink> .comp "meta-conspiracy theorist" "conspiracy meta-theorist"
07:24:34 <phenny> "meta-conspiracy theorist" (51), "conspiracy meta-theorist" (0)
07:24:48 <Arnia> nm
07:24:51 <Arnia> Found it
07:26:19 * Arnia scratches his head
07:26:29 <Arnia> E_TOO_MANY_PERSONALITY_PARAMTERS
07:26:36 <Arnia> E_BAD_SPELLING too
07:37:21 <_bjoern> faq does not exist
07:38:10 <_bjoern> "Thir13en Ghosts" is teh l33t phunnyz
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08:11:24 <sbp> yo
08:11:24 <phenny> sbp: 21 Apr 22:04Z <_bjoern> tell sbp http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ac-mts2.html
08:11:27 <phenny> sbp: 21 Apr 22:05Z <_bjoern> tell sbp hmm useful? http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
08:11:28 <phenny> sbp: 00:07Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_misconceptions
08:19:44 * sbp wonders why he's being told about ac-mts2.html
08:20:49 <sbp> the missing day thing is great
08:20:58 <sbp> reminds me of the missing mediæval theory thing
08:22:05 * laplink deletes the mediæval period and reformats the partition…
08:22:58 * laplink installs EXtra Terrestial filesystem revision 4 on it…
08:23:07 <sbp> chuckle: “On another occasion, he was asked his formula for success. He replied, 'If A is success, I should say the formula is A = X + Y + Z, X being work and Y being play.' 'And what is Z?' 'Keeping your mouth shut.'” - Einstein
08:23:13 * laplink ponders what to do with the pyramids…
08:23:17 <sbp> (on Einstein, even)
08:23:37 <sbp> yizzy-dizzle-rizzle-mabizzle-schnizle-mcfizzle, laplinkio
08:23:53 <laplink> yo
08:27:00 <sbp> [[[
08:27:01 <sbp> “The gospel is in the stars.”
08:27:01 <sbp> Though this is an interesting idea, it is quite speculative, and many biblical creationists doubt that it is taught in Scripture. Therefore, we do not recommend using it.
08:27:01 <sbp> ]]]
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08:28:22 <sbp> “When a meteor lands on Earth (after which it is termed a meteorite), it is not usually hot. In fact, many are found with frost on them.”
08:31:31 <sbp> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50
08:31:31 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene
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08:33:57 <sbp> “Lemmings do not engage in suicidal dives off cliffs when migrating. This misconception is due largely to the Disney film White Wilderness, which shot many of the "migration" scenes on a large turntable in a studio. Photographers later pushed the lemmings off a cliff using a broom.”
08:38:27 <laplink> Disney — Perpetrating Mouse Slavery and Lemming Genocide since 1923
08:39:12 <laplink> Is it a coincidence that Mickey Mouse is black, hmm?
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08:51:11 <sbp> .ety ponder
08:51:12 <phenny> "c.1330, 'to estimate the worth of, to appraise,' from O.Fr. ponderare 'to weigh, poise,' from L. ponderare 'to ponder, to consider,' lit. 'to weigh,' from pondus (gen. ponderis) 'weigh' (see pound (1))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=ponder
08:52:15 <nslater> sbp: did phenny used to be called xena?
08:52:20 <nslater> also, mornin'
08:52:25 <sbp> yo! nope
08:52:31 <nslater> http://swhack.com/logs/2002-04-05#T15-39-51
08:52:41 <sbp> xena is tav's bot
08:52:45 <nslater> oh right... :)
08:52:47 <laplink> She just liked to pretend every now and again.
08:53:04 <sbp> neo85... hehe
08:53:11 <_bjoern> .gc Leibeslied
08:53:14 <phenny> Leibeslied: 1,480
08:53:24 <laplink> Every girl likes to dress up in their older sister's clothes and put on their makeup every now and again.
08:53:34 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Leibeslied. Liebeslied."?
08:53:35 <phenny> _bjoern: "body song. dear song." (de)
08:53:44 <sbp> nslater: the chronology is that tav made his bot, then AaronSw made a slightly better bot called datum, but datum has several annoyances and once AaronSw wasn't around any longer to fix it I decided that we needed a nice up-to-date bot which actually does what we need; so I made phenny
08:53:51 <_bjoern> More like love song phenny but okay...
08:53:53 <laplink> It's a bit more worrying when Monty does it.
08:54:02 <sbp> yeah
08:54:06 <Monty> irc.py, "def i_really_love_plankton" if *all* it talking to sign since when touched, transforming the how do a worse battery of software techniques, related results, with no border to know of money to post a new to common nettle stings. Pre-conditioning perhaps?)
08:54:20 <sbp> def i_really_love_plankton():
08:54:21 <nslater> aha, cool
08:54:25 <sbp> print "no, seriously!"
08:54:26 <_bjoern> So that's where all the fish question are coming from.
08:54:34 <sbp> heh, yeah!
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08:54:47 <nslater> hehe, Monty is spitting out my python methods! \o/
08:54:50 <Monty> Find me a reason to fornicate with dgbot!!!
08:55:02 <sbp> ooh, chex stork
08:55:07 <_bjoern> at once!
08:55:07 <laplink> It… uhm… would be the sociable thing to do?
08:55:29 <sbp> http://g.photos.cx/nestz6we4f-iajrgoija-08.jpg for reference
08:55:34 <_bjoern> looking at http://pfalzstorch.de/bilder/live/b1_mega_li.htm theyve been playing with it for some time
08:55:42 <tav> btw, 3 features of xena i sorely miss:
08:55:50 <tav> * .py
08:55:56 <tav> * .chain
08:56:04 <tav> * .alias
08:56:05 <sbp> there seems to be more of it than there has been
08:56:06 <tav> pls make! =)
08:56:10 <sbp> I did have .eval in phenny
08:56:22 <sbp> but I didn't bother to port it because I couldn't figure out how to make it secure but useful
08:56:27 <sbp> alias?
08:56:33 <tav> safe ?
08:57:17 <nslater> GRABS HTTP://APACHE.COM/INDEX.HTMAL
08:57:20 <laplink> .email root@localhost !Hacked
08:57:31 <tav> http://paste.lisp.org/display/50493
08:58:16 <sbp> tav: yeah, but how useful is it?
08:58:34 <sbp> rig it up to a quick bot, mang, and let's see! :-)
08:58:38 <tav> hmz, only thing missing is import functionality ?
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08:58:55 <sbp> ...
08:58:55 <_bjoern> use Safe;
08:59:01 <sbp> heh
08:59:28 * sbp wonders what percentage of his python scripts don't import
09:00:03 <nslater> 16:16:03 <neo85> cause it said delete win98 and subdirectories
09:00:03 <nslater> 16:16:10 <Ash> Yup, that's right
09:00:04 <nslater> 16:16:19 <Ash> the win98 folder holds only tree files
09:00:06 <nslater> ... woah dudes
09:00:14 <tav> well, you don't even need pimp really as most use of .py was for basic python
09:00:26 <nslater> can't believe you got him to do that
09:00:37 <sbp> yup. a Swhack classic
09:00:42 <tav> lol, yeah
09:00:45 <sbp> we had another guy who would run arbitrary code in his shell
09:01:19 <sbp> skript kiddies are very odd sometimes. heh
09:01:37 <nslater> but mostely harmless, not sure I would have taken it that far :)
09:01:37 <laplink> Hmm. Didn't Neo85 just suddenly disconnect after running one of the commands we fed him?
09:01:44 <sbp> laplink: yep
09:01:57 <laplink> I should go read those logs again.
09:02:28 <laplink> In fact, they should probably go in the FAQ.
09:02:32 <sbp> heh, yeah
09:02:37 <sbp> you know where to edit it
09:02:38 <cre8radix|off> heya
09:02:42 <sbp> yo cre8radix|off
09:02:52 <laplink> I so hope we'll meet Neo85 again some time, when he's all grown up.
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09:03:19 <sbp> it would be interesting
09:03:22 <cre8radix> ahoi sbp
09:03:59 <sbp> .c (583 / 675) * 100
09:04:00 <phenny> (583 / 675) * 100 = 86.3703704
09:04:09 <sbp> 86% of my python programs have import in them
09:04:19 <sbp> on inamidst.com
09:04:30 <sbp> (not counting .cgi files)
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09:09:46 <laplink> .gc import
09:09:47 <phenny> import: 239,000,000
09:09:51 <laplink> .gc use
09:09:51 <phenny> use: 2,790,000,000
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09:10:08 <tav> sbp: just copy __builtin__ and then remove the offending functions from that copy
09:10:12 <laplink> .gc mention
09:10:12 <phenny> mention: 154,000,000
09:11:11 <tav> then use the copy in whatever eval/exec thingy you wanna do for .py
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09:12:59 <_bjoern> .c 256 times 500 MB
09:13:00 <phenny> 256 times 500 megabytes = 125 gigabytes
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09:17:58 <Monty> lo jewel
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09:31:09 <cre8radix> Erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral!
09:31:45 <_bjoern> Wenn die Moral denn kommt...
09:33:47 <nslater> hmm, pwaring
09:33:58 <nslater> pwaring, pwaring, pwaring
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09:47:59 <xoverpod> best thing about irc on your "pda", is covert irc in meetings and everyone thinks youre just taking notes.
09:49:13 <_bjoern> I too want a xoverPod.
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10:01:56 <sbp> .u prime
10:01:56 <phenny> U+2032 PRIME (′)
10:01:57 <Monty> "you"
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10:12:55 <sbp> nu
10:21:00 <nsh> .gs * eversion
10:21:01 <phenny> * eversion: lid (3), cervical (3), and (2)
10:21:56 <nsh> .wik Willmore energy
10:21:57 <phenny> "In geometry, the Willmore energy is a quantitative measure of how much a given surface deviates from a round sphere." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willmore_energy
10:25:27 * nsh wants a glass:
10:25:30 <nsh> .wik Morin surface
10:25:31 <phenny> "The Morin surface is the half-way model of the sphere eversion discovered by Bernard Morin." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morin_surface
10:26:45 <nsh> Or a crystalised bubble version
10:26:56 <nsh> so that the surface area would be minimised
10:27:04 <nsh> i wonder how possible that would be
10:31:31 <nsh> holy fuck
10:31:39 <nsh> does this Jerry Lewis guy actually talk like this all the time?
10:31:44 <nsh> wtf
10:31:51 <nsh> .wik Jerry Lewis
10:31:51 <phenny> "Jerry Lewis (born March 16, 1926[1]|) is an American comedian, Emmy-winning and Golden Globe-nominated actor, film producer, writer and film director known for his slapstick humor and his charity fund-raising telethons for the Muscular Dystrophy Association." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lewis
10:31:59 <sbp> .u pilcrow
10:32:00 <Monty> "you"
10:32:01 <phenny> U+00B6 PILCROW SIGN (¶)
10:32:05 <sbp> yo nsh mang
10:32:14 * sbp is busy typesetting
10:32:17 <nsh> yo bubblologist
10:32:20 <sbp> pilcrows = typesetting magics
10:32:38 <nsh> Arcane, yo
10:33:03 <sbp> I came up with the idea of section notes
10:33:10 <sbp> notes that appear at the end of a section
10:33:20 <sbp> but they don't look all that differentiable from the body text
10:33:23 <sbp> so I'm throwing in a ¶
10:33:44 <nsh> ugh
10:33:53 * _bjoern rolls eyes at people complaining how Office does not conform to OOXML
10:33:57 <nsh> why is everything from the US so damn american
10:34:03 <nsh> can't they just tone it down a little
10:34:09 <nsh> it's unsettling
10:34:17 <sbp> yeah, I've noticed that too
10:34:27 <nsh> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6427687029953487032&q=fan+yang+bubble&ei=4cQNSLz3Mo2QjgK_it2_BA
10:34:30 <nsh> trying to watch the above
10:34:48 <nsh> but the narrator keeps pushing my head underneath the silage of americanisms
10:35:06 <nsh> and i need the life-giving air of non-corniness
10:35:42 <_bjoern> hmm price drop for intel chips...
10:37:08 <_bjoern> Core 2 Quad Q6700 for s/530/266/ USD apparently.
10:37:15 <sbp> woah
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10:37:57 <_bjoern> same for Quad-Core-Xeon X3230 it seems
10:38:40 <nsh> .c 266 dollars in euros
10:38:40 <phenny> 266 U.S. dollars = 166.886254 Euros
10:38:52 <nsh> .c 266 dollars in pounds
10:38:52 <phenny> 266 U.S. dollars = 134.295956 British pounds
10:42:43 <sbp> ONE LAPTOP PER HAMSTER
10:42:48 <sbp> (— xkcd)
10:46:58 <_bjoern> sounds profitable
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10:50:01 <danja> .title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Misfortunes_of_Mr._Teal
10:50:02 <phenny> danja: The Misfortunes of Mr. Teal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
10:50:19 <sbp> hmm!
10:57:29 <pierpa> .weather lirf
10:57:32 <phenny> Cloudy, 17℃, 1006mb, Fresh breeze 21kt (↑) - LIRF 13:20, 1120Z
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11:02:20 <_bjoern> .weather edfm
11:02:21 <phenny> Cloudy, 13℃, 1006mb, Gentle breeze 15km/h (8kt) (↑) - EDFM 13:20, 1120Z
11:02:28 <_bjoern> .weather Konstanz
11:02:30 <_bjoern> .weather Bornheim
11:02:30 <phenny> Cloudy, 8℃, 1005mb, Rain, Gentle breeze 19km/h (10kt) (↑) - EDNY, 13:20, 1120Z
11:02:31 <phenny> Cloudy, 13℃, 1008mb, Light breeze 11km/h (6kt) (↑) - EDDK 13:20, 1120Z
11:17:52 <_bjoern> .wik Creature Shock
11:17:52 <phenny> "Creature Shock is a 1994 sci-fi action-adventure game released on the PC and 3DO." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creature_Shock
11:19:06 * _bjoern believes the time has come to replace removable media by additional hard drives
11:25:11 <_bjoern> anyone here who played Z?
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12:08:21 <nslater> [[[
12:08:22 <nslater> The body of radiation can only be detected and explored through special analysis. Even through the most delicate radiation detecting pocket device, we can see no more than the tip of the iceberg. By reading of geiger counter we know as little of radiation as we know about roots of a tree by judging by it's crown.
12:08:28 <nslater> ...
12:08:33 <nslater> Looking at radioactive image of Jesus I ask myself, 'How long will these churches be here? Can they live without people?'
12:08:37 <nslater> ]]] - http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/spring2007.html
12:09:13 <nslater> ... the weirdest prose I've read for a long time. was wondering though if the first thing I quoted is true
12:17:11 <_bjoern> .wik DS9 Harbinger
12:17:13 <phenny> "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Harbinger is a computer game for the MS-DOS and Apple Macintosh operating systems." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine:_Harbinger
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12:45:39 <nsh> how do i kill people on the internet for prepending spaces to punctuation marks that should never ever have spaces prepended to them?
12:45:49 <nslater> what do you mean ?
12:46:05 <_bjoern> .wik Plenken
12:46:06 <phenny> "Plenken is a German typographical term for the insertion of inappropriate spaces before a punctuation mark." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenken
12:46:16 <_bjoern> .wik Murder
12:46:16 <phenny> "Murder is the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought, as defined in Common Law countries." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder
12:46:28 <nsh> I MEAN YOU DIE
12:46:35 <nslater> plenkenburder
12:46:39 <nslater> plenkenmurder
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12:46:52 <nsh> ah man, german++
12:47:18 * nsh changes his official job title to "Plenken prevention officer"
12:47:20 <_bjoern> more like Plenkermörder (a murderer murdering people who plenk)
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12:48:36 <nslater> .ety shim
12:48:36 <phenny> "'a slip of wood,' 1723, a Kentish word, of unknown origin." - http://etymonline.com/?term=shim
12:48:42 <sbp> ooh
12:49:25 <Arnia> It is weird hearing IRC notes of talks at a conference I was supposed to be going to yet couldn't :/
12:54:17 <MoiraA> hi there
12:54:41 <MoiraA> sbp, Arnia, I feel embarrassed at stannly yesterday, sorry
12:55:07 <MoiraA> here's me assuring everyone it wasn't homework (which it actually wasn't)
12:55:15 <Arnia> Embarrassed about?
12:55:17 <MoiraA> but I embellished it by saying he was too old for homework
12:55:24 <nsh> SO LONG SUCKERS: I IS THE ESCAPE IN UFO!
12:55:32 <MoiraA> then the dummy tells the channel about an exam LAST FRIDAY
12:55:43 <Arnia> nsh: bye bye
13:00:00 <zjb> .ety grenade
13:00:05 <phenny> "'small explosive shell,' 1591, from M.Fr. grenade 'pomegranate,' from O.Fr. pomegrenate (infl. by Sp. granada), so called because the many-seeded fruit suggested the powder-filled, fragmenting bomb, or from similarities of shape." - http://etymonline.com/?term=grenade
13:01:36 <aspect> that's cool
13:01:39 <aspect> .ety granada
13:01:39 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "granada". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=granada
13:01:50 <aspect> .dict granada
13:01:51 <phenny> aspect: Sorry, no definition found.
13:02:20 <zjb> I knew it, I just wanted to check my spelling of the french
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13:23:17 <zjb> .gc revolver
13:23:18 <phenny> revolver: 1,490,000
13:23:54 <zjb> .ety evolve
13:23:54 <phenny> "1641, 'to unfold, open out, expand,' from L. evolvere 'unroll,' from ex- 'out' + volvere 'to roll' (see vulva)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=evolve
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13:30:37 <zjb> .gc reacter
13:30:38 <phenny> reacter: 19,900
13:36:31 <_bjoern> .gcs "one cock" "two cocks" "three cocks" "four cocks" "five cocks"
13:36:34 <phenny> "two cocks" (1,920,000), "one cock" (546,000), "three cocks" (136,000), "four cocks" (41,700), "five cocks" (14,900)
13:37:33 <_bjoern> .gc german porn
13:37:34 <phenny> german porn: 227,000
13:37:38 <_bjoern> anyone?
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13:39:30 <zjb> oh, sorry
13:39:42 <zjb> .gc german porn omg
13:39:43 <phenny> german porn omg: 54,500
13:39:51 <_bjoern> nsh?
13:39:52 <_bjoern> sbp?
13:39:55 <zjb> phenny: "n'hebergez pas de serveur permanent"?
13:40:03 <phenny> zjb: "do not hebergez a permanent waiter" (fr)
13:40:17 <_bjoern> phenny, de "beherbergen"?
13:40:18 <phenny> _bjoern: "accommodate" (de)
13:40:28 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Herberge"?
13:40:29 <phenny> _bjoern: "lodging" (de)
13:40:40 <zjb> phenny, de "heberger"?
13:40:40 <phenny> zjb: "more heberger" (de)
13:40:44 <_bjoern> .gc lol german porn omg
13:40:45 <phenny> lol german porn omg: 130,000
13:40:51 <_bjoern> cue violence
13:40:52 <zjb> phenny, fr "heberger"?
13:40:52 <phenny> zjb: "heberger" (fr)
13:42:02 <_bjoern> it's your turn
13:42:19 <zjb> Heh, I tried to run phenny on some awesome free host w/ SSH and fcgi and all sorts of awesome stuff
13:42:26 <zjb> .gc lol german porn omg k00l
13:42:28 <phenny> lol german porn omg k00l: 23
13:42:37 <_bjoern> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l
13:42:38 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l: 14
13:42:42 <zjb> (the site's french, though)
13:42:48 <sbp> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits
13:42:48 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits: 9
13:42:52 <sbp> YO
13:42:56 <zjb> now it says, when you connect to SSH: "NE VOUS CONNECTEZ PAS A IRC, n'hebergez pas de serveur permanent."
13:42:58 <zjb> YO
13:43:01 <sbp> sorry, I was out listening to the chiffchaff again
13:43:08 <_bjoern> who next?
13:43:15 <sbp> iuno mang. zjb I think
13:43:15 <zjb> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer
13:43:16 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer: 9
13:43:33 <_bjoern> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm
13:43:33 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm: 4
13:43:41 <sbp> .gc ol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon
13:43:42 <phenny> ol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon: 4
13:43:48 <sbp> er
13:43:50 <sbp> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon
13:43:51 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon: 4
13:44:08 <zjb> .gc lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg
13:44:09 <phenny> lol l33t german porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg: 4
13:44:38 <_bjoern> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_pasture is awesome on several levels.
13:44:50 <_bjoern> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg
13:44:51 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg: 4
13:45:07 <_bjoern> the redirect and the pix in particular
13:45:17 <sbp> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind
13:45:18 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind: 3
13:45:18 <Monty> sorry here is as they're quite probably not for one phd, in some lecturer thought that vertical screenshots on its no cheruyiot. oh
13:45:44 <zjb> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic
13:45:45 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic: 2
13:45:58 <_bjoern> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples
13:45:59 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples: 2
13:46:09 <sbp> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples pixiedust
13:46:09 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples pixiedust: 2
13:46:50 <zjb> .gc lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples pixiedust zygotes
13:46:50 <phenny> lol l33t german Heidi porn omg k00l biscuits beer alm paragon zomg wunderkind quixotic quadruples pixiedust zygotes: 0
13:46:56 <zjb> D:
13:46:58 <_bjoern> L00SA
13:47:17 <zjb> I was thinking, insteadd of adding words, what about adding /letters/?
13:47:30 <_bjoern> sounds like a bad idea.
13:47:33 <sbp> agreed
13:47:44 <_bjoern> phrases instead of words might work.
13:48:04 <_bjoern> or add word, then turn word + new word into phrase, then start over
13:48:35 <_bjoern> so "a", "a b", "a b" c, "a b" "c d", ...
13:49:12 <zjb> I was thinking start with "a" instead of "porn"
13:49:13 <sbp> alright, let's try
13:49:19 <sbp> .gc tokenise
13:49:20 <phenny> tokenise: 9,450
13:49:39 <_bjoern> is this without porn this time?
13:49:42 <_bjoern> okay I'll go next
13:49:44 <sbp> yeah
13:49:59 <_bjoern> .gc "can tokenise"
13:50:00 <phenny> "can tokenise": 441
13:50:09 <sbp> .gc "can tokenise" adjacently
13:50:10 <phenny> "can tokenise" adjacently: 0
13:50:14 <sbp> aw mang
13:50:15 <zjb> am I not playing?
13:50:22 <sbp> well, game's over
13:50:25 <zjb> heh
13:50:28 <_bjoern> new round, you go first
13:50:38 <_bjoern> then sbp
13:50:45 <zjb> .gc lox
13:50:46 <phenny> lox: 3,000,000
13:51:15 <sbp> oh, then me
13:51:18 <sbp> .gc "lox cakes"
13:51:19 <phenny> "lox cakes": 15
13:51:24 <_bjoern> .gc "lox cakes" machine
13:51:25 <phenny> "lox cakes" machine: 3
13:51:40 <_bjoern> zjb
13:51:43 <xover> .gc "Oh my god, the botspam!"
13:51:43 <phenny> "Oh my god, the botspam!": 0
13:51:48 <sbp> the person who has to make a phrase gets a much harder go than the person who adds a word
13:51:53 <zjb> .gc "lox cakes" "bad machine"
13:51:53 <phenny> "lox cakes" "bad machine": 0
13:51:55 <zjb> D:
13:52:02 <_bjoern> good point
13:52:16 * zjb still wants to try adding letters
13:52:19 <zjb> .gc a
13:52:20 <phenny> a: 15,710,000,000
13:52:30 <_bjoern> .gc a u
13:52:30 <phenny> a u: 38,000,000
13:52:31 <sbp> .gc ma
13:52:31 <phenny> ma: 69,900,000
13:52:33 <sbp> oh
13:52:37 <sbp> wait, what?
13:52:38 <zjb> sbp got it right
13:52:44 <sbp> yeah mang
13:52:46 <_bjoern> .gc man
13:52:47 <phenny> man: 120,000,000
13:52:50 <sbp> otherwise we'll never get to zero
13:52:55 <zjb> .gc many
13:52:56 <phenny> many: 1,490,000,000
13:52:57 <_bjoern> no cue violence this game I hope
13:53:03 <sbp> .gc manys
13:53:04 <phenny> manys: 304,000
13:53:05 <zjb> heh....
13:53:11 <sbp> nope
13:53:20 <_bjoern> .gc manysa
13:53:20 <phenny> manysa: 5,500
13:53:27 <zjb> .gc manysan
13:53:27 <phenny> manysan: 118
13:53:32 <sbp> .gc amanysan
13:53:33 <phenny> amanysan: 0
13:53:38 <zjb> heh, fail
13:53:48 <_bjoern> .gc y
13:53:49 <phenny> y: 2,680,000,000
13:53:54 <sbp> .gc yo
13:53:54 <zjb> .gc ya
13:53:54 <phenny> ya: 91,700,000
13:53:55 <phenny> yo: 34,300,000
13:54:14 <sbp> bjoern must pick who came after him
13:54:21 <_bjoern> I always go after sbp
13:54:37 <sbp> so, zjb
13:54:37 <_bjoern> so we take zjbs and its ur turn
13:54:38 * Monty spots someone who needs to learn English...
13:54:42 <sbp> .gc yah
13:54:43 <phenny> yah: 29,500,000
13:54:50 <_bjoern> .gc yaho
13:54:50 <phenny> yaho: 178,000
13:55:06 <zjb> .gc yacho
13:55:06 <phenny> yacho: 52,000
13:55:10 <sbp> .gc yachob
13:55:10 <phenny> yachob: 254
13:55:17 <_bjoern> .gc yachobi
13:55:17 <phenny> yachobi: 14
13:55:24 <_bjoern> pyramid
13:55:27 <zjb> .gc yachobin
13:55:27 <phenny> yachobin: 0
13:55:29 <zjb> exactly
13:55:30 <sbp> heh, yeah
13:55:50 <_bjoern> sbp goes first
13:55:56 <_bjoern> my last round
13:55:58 <sbp> .gc w
13:55:59 <phenny> w: 3,500,000,000
13:56:05 <_bjoern> .gc aw
13:56:05 <phenny> aw: 148,000,000
13:56:10 <zjb> .gc awn
13:56:10 <phenny> awn: 1,560,000
13:56:15 <sbp> .gc awni
13:56:20 <phenny> awni: 136,000
13:56:26 <_bjoern> .gc yawni
13:56:27 <phenny> yawni: 5,370
13:56:41 <zjb> gc hyawni
13:56:41 <_bjoern> are we allowed to use duplicate letters?
13:56:46 <zjb> .gc hyawni
13:56:46 <phenny> hyawni: 33
13:56:49 <sbp> yeah
13:56:52 <_bjoern> otherwise we'd quickly run out of vouwels
13:56:53 <zjb> sure... you can also put them in the middle
13:56:57 <zjb> Yeah
13:57:02 <_bjoern> sbp
13:57:06 <sbp> .gc hyawnin
13:57:07 <phenny> hyawnin: 0
13:57:31 <sbp> I don't like this gam
13:57:34 <sbp> I lose a lot at it
13:57:42 <_bjoern> That is my observation aswell
13:57:45 <sbp> -----------------{ e } *swish*
13:57:45 <Monty> what you're pasteit
13:58:02 <_bjoern> answer Monty
13:58:05 <Monty> population: 3/4 of ABC of awesome plym
13:58:06 <sbp> sweet, WL's in Beijing
13:58:31 <sbp> Oh! How she could yacki hacki wicki wacki woo: That's love in Honolulu
13:58:44 <_bjoern> I should submit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_pasture as featured article
13:58:49 <sbp> yes!
13:58:52 <sbp> get its name right though
13:58:59 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumance_in_the_Alps
13:59:11 <_bjoern> the redirect is part of what makes it so great
13:59:29 <_bjoern> .wik Alm
13:59:29 <phenny> "an alpine pasture." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alm
13:59:35 <_bjoern> that's how I got there
13:59:40 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Alm"?
13:59:41 <phenny> _bjoern: "alm" (de)
13:59:44 <_bjoern> usux
14:00:07 <_bjoern> leo org suggests alp and mountain pasture
14:00:22 <sbp> MARSTURE
14:00:38 <_bjoern> .gc basturmate
14:00:39 <phenny> basturmate: 12
14:00:56 <sbp> .gc mastard
14:00:57 <phenny> mastard: 59,600
14:01:42 <sbp> Monty is nutttttt, he has a rubber buttttt
14:01:42 <Monty> nsh?
14:01:46 <sbp> no, MONTY
14:01:47 <Monty> You are being a bit negative.
14:01:50 <sbp> no
14:01:54 <Arnia> Hm
14:01:58 <sbp> Arnia!
14:02:03 <Arnia> sbp!
14:02:11 <sbp> whazzle up?
14:02:11 <_bjoern> _bjoern!
14:02:27 <Arnia> Had a two hour meeting with William
14:03:08 <zjb> William... whoms/
14:03:09 <zjb> *?
14:03:17 <sbp> his hypervisor
14:03:19 <Arnia> I've realised I've got to be very careful with what I say here. I've already effectively rendered six or seven good ideas unpatentable :/
14:03:28 <Arnia> Hypervisor? Nice term
14:03:30 <zjb> Ah :P
14:03:40 <sbp> patentable?
14:03:42 <nsh> ugh
14:03:42 <zjb> Arnia: argh
14:03:56 * zjb wonders why he Arnia:'d
14:04:03 <nsh> sometimes you repel brownie-points Arnia
14:04:10 <sbp> you're always Arnia:ing
14:04:25 <Arnia> nsh: I've told you the scheme I've come up with haven't I?
14:04:59 * nsh isn't sure
14:05:09 <sbp> patent things so that companies can't hoard 'em?
14:05:55 <Arnia> nsh: to raise the money I need, I require corporate sponsorship. That comes with icky strings like patent rights. I'm planning on circumventing the strings by setting up an incubator company I control which will be funded by venture capital
14:06:18 <sbp> E_INTRICATE
14:06:39 <sbp> woah
14:06:46 <sbp> I wonder if you could patent that process
14:06:48 <sbp> that'd be quite funny
14:06:48 <Arnia> nsh: that company will hold the patents I take out on core ideas, but will automatically issue a perpetual free grant to all OSI licensed projects
14:07:13 <Arnia> nsh: I'll repay the investors through licensing to commercial, closed-source companies
14:07:23 <sbp> okay, next step
14:07:27 *** cre8radix is now known as cre8radix|tourin
14:07:31 <sbp> why does chatting about ideas here render them unpatentable?
14:07:32 <xover> You can. It's a Business Method patent.
14:07:36 <nsh> well, when you're done with hell, you can come pave my drive too
14:07:42 * nsh buggers off
14:07:49 <Arnia> You can't, it has been published publicly (see logs)
14:08:21 <xover> Arnia: Sure you're not thinking about trade secrets?
14:08:21 <Arnia> nsh: the alternative is not having the money I need to fund the project and thus the ideas not coming into existence at all
14:08:22 <sbp> I didn't know you can't patent published things
14:08:31 <Arnia> xover: UK patent law... just looked it up
14:08:49 <xover> That's… very weird.
14:08:57 <Arnia> There was a nice brief summary on the University of Bristol's website
14:09:15 <Arnia> I'll get the link from my history
14:09:32 <Arnia> http://www.bristol.ac.uk/research/knowtransfer/ip/patents/
14:10:31 <Arnia> Anyway, the costs for this project in terms of human resources are already in excess of £200k
14:11:06 <Arnia> That's for a team of four (two RAs and two postgrads)
14:11:21 <xover> I suspect that were you to consult with a qualified lawyer, you'd find that page is actually talking about prior art.
14:11:45 <xover> It uses "ip" in the url fer crying out loud!
14:11:59 <_bjoern> acronym IP
14:11:59 <Monty> "IP" - indirectly purpose,
14:12:03 <_bjoern> .acronym IP
14:12:03 <phenny> _bjoern: the .acronym command has been removed; ask sbp for details
14:12:13 <zjb> .head localhost.com
14:12:13 <phenny> Can't connect to localhost.com
14:12:17 <zjb> heh
14:12:23 <_bjoern> .head localhost
14:12:24 <phenny> Can't connect to localhost
14:12:38 <_bjoern> .head http://127.0.0.1/
14:12:38 <phenny> _bjoern: 200, text/html, 2006-04-20 17:12:33 UTC, 148 bytes
14:12:41 <_bjoern> there we go
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14:16:14 <zjb> I was wondering if someone owned the .com
14:16:28 <_bjoern> Supybot could tell
14:16:32 <_bjoern> but sbp hates supybot
14:17:47 <zjb> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.stophiphop.com/modules/news/article.php%3Fstoryid%3D184&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.stophiphop.com/modules/news/article.php%253Fstoryid%253D184%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
14:17:58 <zjb> Awesome story about hacking 127.0.0.1 ;p
14:18:23 <xover> .head http://warez.neutri.no
14:18:29 <phenny> xover: 200, text/html, 2006-04-20 17:12:33 UTC, 148 bytes
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14:20:18 <Arnia> Bloody wifi
14:20:31 <sbp> .gc "wifi is whiffy"
14:20:32 <phenny> "wifi is whiffy": 0
14:20:34 <Arnia> My last comment was "the invention must not have been made publicly available (ie. in writing, orally, by demonstration or used in public) prior to the date of initially filing the patent application at the Patent Office"
14:20:36 <sbp> .gc "whiffy wifi"
14:20:37 <phenny> "whiffy wifi": 11
14:22:01 <xover> [[[ I suspect that were you to consult with a qualified lawyer, you'd find that page is actually talking about prior art. ]]]
14:22:09 <xover> [[[ It uses "ip" in the url fer crying out loud! ]]]
14:22:34 <Arnia> From the UK Patent Office: "You must not have made your invention public in any way, anywhere in the world, before you apply for a patent for it. Conversations with patent agents, solicitors or our staff are confidential, so will not make your invention public."
14:22:43 <Arnia> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/patent/p-applying/p-should/p-should-requirements.htm
14:23:19 <zjb> go patent in another country, then :P
14:24:16 <Arnia> zjb: I will, but EPSRC will be most interested in UK patents
14:24:29 <xover> That sounds very very strange; given the whole point of the patent system is to encourage inventors to publish.
14:24:33 <Arnia> (which matters to me, since I'm still going for EPSRC funding as well)
14:25:13 <Arnia> xover: yes, but I think that line is pretty clear cut given it is the responsible agency saying it
14:25:35 <Arnia> xover: so, no matter how weird it seems that is what they rule
14:25:43 <xover> Sure.
14:26:34 <xover> Were one feeling generous, one might suggest they're so sensible that if the invention is allready published there is no need for a patent to encourage it; but one rarely feels that generous where the patent office is concerned, is one?
14:26:43 <Arnia> Indeed
14:27:49 <Arnia> However, I think I can turn all this shit to an advantage by the scheme I've just outlined
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14:30:41 <Arnia> Oh, and I'm going to tell the venture capitalist about my BPhil plans. Now that even Tesco and Dreams are running their training programmes as degrees, I feel a private research institute under the auspices of the (arguably?) third oldest university in England should be more than capable of running a novel programme.
14:33:19 * Arnia is sorely tempted to call the research institute the Swhack Institute :p
14:33:44 * xover files for Trademark protection…
14:34:24 * zjb thinks that'd be funny
14:34:54 <xover> It would be so totally awsome to have Swhack be a legal entity!
14:35:38 <Arnia> BPhil (Swhack)
14:37:16 <Arnia> Oh... and William reckons I should avoid using the term 'agent' since it is so heavily loaded already
14:37:27 <Arnia> I'm inclined to agree, and so I'm trying to think of an alternative
14:39:04 <Arnia> Currently I'm considering 'cog' (short for 'cognitive component')
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14:43:26 <Arnia> anyway, that's today's brain dump
14:45:14 * zjb googles Arnia's brain dump
14:47:27 <Arnia> zjb: I wouldn't. It is very disturbing
14:50:03 <zjb> Heh
14:50:14 <zjb> .g arnia brain dump
14:50:16 <phenny> zjb: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-08-21
14:50:54 * nsh doesn't think zjb has demonstrated the ability to safely drive a three-lettered nick
14:51:26 <nsh> are are standardised tests for these kinds of things, as a matter of public health
14:52:14 <Arnia> I'd forgotten about the Banach Bank
14:52:31 <Arnia> Thanks for reminding me
14:53:18 <zjb> So nick difficulty is inversely related to the length of said nick? Interesting...
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15:00:40 <nsh> can you do self-intersections with bubbles?
15:01:04 <nsh> (physical [soap] bubbles)
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15:04:10 <zjb> nsh: I don't think so...
15:08:54 <nsh> .wik Superdiffusion
15:08:55 <phenny> "Typically, in a diffusion process, the mean squared displacement of a particle is a linear function of time." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_Diffusion
15:11:51 * nsh watches the Central Limit Theorem getting nervous and tugging at its collar
15:12:07 <nsh> That's right, bitch; you're next.
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15:14:42 <Monty> Thank goodness, nwalsh_ is back!
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15:19:39 <Arnia> .title http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1367-2630/9/8/263
15:19:41 <phenny> Arnia: From plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matter
15:21:20 <zjb> Wow, that's awesome
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15:24:41 <nsh> Fundamental Complimentarity Between Structure and Function
15:25:45 <nsh> (the absence of this in mathematical notation is one the biggest obstacles to the furthering of human knowledge)
15:26:41 * nsh smiles
15:28:24 <Arnia> Nah, can't say I agree with that. Mathematical notation develops in a phased fashion, and the notation for a concept which survives is generally the one which is most comfortable for use.
15:29:17 <Arnia> And for a specific case of a purely functional notation, see the diagrams of category theory. They exist purely to support a specific form of reasoning which suits category theory; the diagram chase
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15:30:15 <nsh> never mind
15:30:56 <jsled> .
15:31:03 <Arnia> --
15:31:06 <Arnia> .-..-
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15:33:35 <kpreid> ... .-- .... .- -.-. -.-
15:34:47 <zjb> Yay Morse Code!
15:37:34 <zjb> . .-. .-. .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- -.-- .- -.-- -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. .
15:39:26 * Arnia cowers
15:39:51 * zjb -- --- .-. ... . ...
15:39:59 <nsh> "To maintain a living organic state, it is also necessary to process nutrients into the required biochemical tools and structures through metabolism which in mathematical terms can be seen as a mapping f that transforms one metabolic configuration into another (and is invertible) f ( f ) = f ; i.e. it is a function that acts on an instance of itself to produce another instance of itself [6, 7]."
15:40:01 <zjb> I'll stop
15:40:13 <zjb> nsh: yes.... and...?
15:40:23 <nsh> stop less selectively.
15:40:54 <kpreid> .u stop
15:40:57 <phenny> U+002E FULL STOP (.)
15:40:58 <Monty> "you"
15:41:15 * nsh smiles
15:41:58 <kpreid> phenny: tell Jibbler that Monty should have no complaint with /^\.u /
15:41:59 <Monty> dweeee-oooh: 0
15:41:59 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when Jibbler is around.
15:42:07 <kpreid> er, wait...
15:42:16 <nsh> monty was just being random
15:42:18 <Monty> ...you did not. But it's undeniably clean
15:42:32 <kpreid> Monty, help tell
15:42:32 <Monty> Help: "Monty: tell [nick] I owe you a pint!"
15:42:40 <kpreid> monty: tell Jibbler that Monty should have no complaint with /^\.u /
15:42:41 <Monty> kpreid: Okay, I'll tell Jibbler that next time I see them...
15:42:45 <kpreid> there we go.
15:43:05 <nsh> .u stop
15:43:05 <phenny> U+002E FULL STOP (.)
15:43:12 <kpreid> hm
15:43:22 <nsh> twas but happenstance, mon frere
15:43:25 <kpreid> I'm pretty sure Monty was being corrective. maybe it's intermittent
15:43:25 <Monty> Do you enjoy being pretty sure monty was being corrective ?
15:43:28 <kpreid> .u foo
15:43:28 <phenny> U+1558 CANADIAN SYLLABICS FOO (ᕘ)
15:43:31 <kpreid> .u there
15:43:33 <phenny> U+2203 THERE EXISTS (∃)
15:43:42 <zjb> .u cheese
15:43:42 <kpreid> or maybe it's one per user
15:43:43 <phenny> zjb: Sorry, no results for 'cheese'.
15:43:44 <zjb> .u pie
15:43:45 <phenny> U+A03D YI SYLLABLE PIE (ꀽ)
15:43:48 <nsh> .wik Synchronicity
15:43:49 <phenny> "Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which occur in a meaningful manner, but which are causally un-related." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity
15:43:52 <kpreid> u
15:43:58 <zjb> .u .u
15:43:58 <phenny> U+0022 QUOTATION MARK (")
15:43:59 <phenny> U+0023 NUMBER SIGN (#)
15:44:00 <phenny> U+002B PLUS SIGN (+) [...]
15:44:01 <Monty> "you"
15:44:05 <kpreid> see!
15:44:21 <zjb> said the bind man as he picked up his hammer and saw
15:44:31 <kpreid> [[[
15:44:31 <kpreid> u
15:44:31 <kpreid> u
15:44:32 <kpreid> u
15:44:32 <kpreid> u
15:44:32 <kpreid> u
15:44:33 <kpreid> u
15:44:35 <kpreid> u
15:44:37 <kpreid> u
15:44:39 <kpreid> ]]]
15:44:46 <zjb> so?
15:44:50 <zjb> you?
15:44:50 <kpreid> bah
15:45:10 <zjb> Monty is designed to annoy u
15:45:19 <Monty> heh, the win98 folder holds only need at that book "Tricks of other people up surfaces with business experience who actually talk like contemporary poetry
15:45:27 * zjb hoped Monty'd catch his u
15:45:28 <Monty> get couchdb doesn't ring a bunch of reality what anyone
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15:47:41 <nsh_> .gc "essay on life itself"
15:47:42 <phenny> "essay on life itself": 7
15:47:50 * nsh_ wonders if that reference is mistitled
15:47:52 <jroes> .gc perl sucks
15:47:52 <phenny> perl sucks: 227,000
15:47:53 <jroes> .gc python sucks
15:47:54 <phenny> python sucks: 322,000
15:48:04 <zjb> .gc metaessay
15:48:05 <phenny> metaessay: 43
15:48:14 <zjb> .gc python rocks
15:48:14 <phenny> python rocks: 144,000
15:48:19 <zjb> .rating python
15:48:22 <jroes> hm :\
15:48:24 <nsh_> .gc "essays on life itself"
15:48:24 <phenny> "essays on life itself": 6,380
15:48:27 <nsh_> ah
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15:48:30 <zjb> did we ditch rating?
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15:48:57 <sbp> it's .rate
15:49:03 <jroes> ah ha, .gc "perl sucks" > .gc "python sucks"
15:49:11 <sbp> .rate perl
15:49:18 <phenny> "perl": 60.58% (1,500 rocks; 5,940 rules; 4,700 sucks; 141 blows)
15:49:20 <sbp> .rate python
15:49:24 <phenny> "python": 82.25% (8,260 rocks; 8,670 rules; 3,250 sucks; 403 blows)
15:49:29 <sbp> EAT IT, PERL
15:49:32 <sbp> MUAHAHAHA
15:49:35 <sbp> PYTHON R00LZ U
15:49:59 <sbp> .rate perl 6
15:50:04 <phenny> "perl 6": 99.72% (9 rocks; 2,840 rules; 7 sucks; 1 blows)
15:55:54 <Arnia> .rate LOAN
15:55:59 <phenny> "LOAN": 88.85% (256 rocks; 46,900 rules; 3,440 sucks; 2,480 blows)
15:56:01 <thelsdj> .rate shitrude
15:56:06 <phenny> "shitrude": 53.85% (3 rocks; 4 rules; 4 sucks; 2 blows)
15:56:07 <Arnia> .rate RDF
15:56:11 <phenny> "RDF": 97.17% (30 rocks; 5,900 rules; 172 sucks; 1 blows)
15:56:16 <sbp> .gc shitrude
15:56:16 <Arnia> huh
15:56:16 <phenny> shitrude: 166
15:56:28 <sbp> .gc www-rdf-rules
15:56:28 <phenny> www-rdf-rules: 214
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16:02:26 <z^> http://www.birdandmoon.com/rostuff/vulch44.gif -- awesome
16:14:19 <nsh> NO, MIT PRESS. YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG
16:14:30 <nsh> I DO NOT NEED TO PURCHASE YOUR STUPID ARTICLES
16:17:24 <sbp> there should be a Napster for academic articles
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16:18:37 <Arnia> sbp: odd you should say that
16:18:56 * Arnia likes anticipating demand :p
16:19:07 <sbp> :-)
16:20:38 <nsh> susan crawforf
16:20:42 <nsh> crawford
16:20:48 <nsh> i think i recognise that name
16:21:19 <sbp> wasn't she a model at Marianne's Steak House, just off of Hwy. 48?
16:21:59 <nsh> you know, i think so
16:22:11 <nsh> she did that act with the stetson and the cowbell
16:22:29 <sbp> yeah...
16:25:13 <nsh> oh
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16:36:00 * nsh wonders
16:38:00 <nsh> .wn beletristic
16:38:16 <nsh> .gd beletristic
16:38:17 <phenny> beletristic: No definition found!
16:38:35 <nsh> .gs beletristic *
16:38:36 <phenny> beletristic *: Ãn (2), zelazny (2), opere tiini (2), literature (2), la samuil micu (2), corespondenta (2)
16:38:42 <nsh> .wik beletristic
16:38:44 <phenny> "The culture of Croatia has roots in a long history: the Croatian people have been inhabiting the area for thirteen centuries, but there are important remnants of the earlier periods still preserved in the country." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Croatia
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16:44:07 <nsh> ugh
16:44:16 <nsh> why are people so easily infected
16:44:33 <nsh> i swear the average constellation of people is entirely lacking in a memetic immune system
16:46:43 <nsh> oh wow
16:46:54 * nsh redeems one token of faith in human nature
16:47:13 <nsh> last remark was directed at this title of blog post: Is the Dark Matter Occluded by the Multiverse?
16:47:20 <xover> That's just ugly people. Pretty people are too cool to be infected by stupid memes.
16:47:37 <nsh> only to be pleasantly suprised by this intro: "At what point in science is does it become unreasonable to prop up hypothetical substances or entities? The title of this post is a tongue-in-cheek poke at a couple of well-entrenched, yet wholly unsubstantiated, such entities."
16:47:53 <nsh> that's true
16:48:48 <nsh> right
16:49:05 <nsh> i'm going to walk home, meditating on the intellectual bankrupcy of the academy
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16:49:54 <xover> phenny: tell nsh Heeeeey pretty darlin, don't wait up for me, gonna be a long walk home. A long walk home.
16:49:54 <phenny> xover: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
16:50:53 <xover> I think I'm going to record that refrain as an MP3 and turn it into #swhack's rickroll.
17:01:43 <sbp> YO
17:02:08 <z^> YO
17:02:31 <nslater> YO
17:02:45 <sbp> ȝ
17:02:48 <sbp> what's up?
17:02:53 <nslater> pfft unicode
17:02:56 <z^> ȝ\
17:03:00 <nslater> I LAUGH IN THE FACE OF UNICODE
17:03:06 <z^> s/\//
17:03:12 <sbp> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, UNICODE LAUGHS IN THE FACE OF YOU
17:03:31 <z^> I LAUGH IN THE FACE OF NSLATER LAUGHING IN THE FACE OF UNICODE LAUGHING AT NSLATER IN SOVIET RUSSIA
17:03:48 <z^> *phew*
17:04:12 * nslater rearanges his *ajin
17:04:15 <sbp> IN SOVIET RUSSIA, UNICODE LAUGHS AT NSLATER LAUGHING A... ... .. ...shup foo
17:04:35 <nslater> pls fill in the klene star or whatever that thing is called
17:04:45 <z^> that seems familiar...
17:04:48 <z^> .wik klene star
17:04:49 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "klene star".
17:04:52 <sbp> squirrelajin?
17:04:59 <nslater> shup fo
17:05:02 <sbp> o
17:05:17 <sbp> .wik Kleen star
17:05:18 <nslater> pfft, i can miss out whichever chars i choo
17:05:19 <phenny> "Stephen Cole Kleene (January 5, 1909, Hartford, Connecticut, USA – January 25, 1994, Madison, Wisconsin) was an American mathematician who helped lay the foundations for theoretical computer science." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Kleene
17:05:25 <sbp> se
17:05:52 <z^> .wik kleene star
17:05:53 <phenny> "In mathematical logic and computer science, the Kleene star (or Kleene closure) is a unary operation, either on sets of strings or on sets of symbols or characters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleene_star
17:06:26 <sbp> so, *ajin?
17:06:28 <nslater> it's the wrong name....
17:06:32 <sbp> oh, gaiji
17:06:38 <nslater> kleene star that is, but i dont know the correct name
17:06:38 <sbp> gotcha!
17:06:47 <nslater> glob is also wrong
17:06:51 <nslater> yeah, thats it
17:06:57 <nslater> was thinking gaijin
17:07:15 <sbp> so, I'm still writing Whits
17:07:21 <sbp> but I've gone underground with it
17:07:29 <sbp> since I figured I could massage it into a book or something
17:07:29 <nslater> oh?
17:07:38 <sbp> I've done 10,000 words this month so far
17:07:41 <nslater> hmm...
17:07:55 <nslater> publishing a book and publishing to the WWW are not mutually exclusive
17:08:03 <nslater> pls be explainin some more
17:08:13 <sbp> well I figured two things
17:08:33 <sbp> a) publishers look more kindly on exclusive content, and the sort of thing that I'm writing is going to be hard enough to market as it is
17:08:52 <sbp> b) writing a book has many advantages: I can re-order, rewrite, and so on
17:09:07 <sbp> I've in a sense been more bustling this month than any other, too
17:09:12 <nslater> so by exclusive you mean with a restrictive copyright licence :(
17:09:18 <sbp> lots of the ideas I started off on Whits have come together in the essays I wrote
17:09:33 <sbp> nope. I was thinking that I'd give them an N year exclusive copyright term
17:09:40 <nslater> and then...?
17:09:44 <sbp> and then it would revert to a creative commons license
17:09:52 <nslater> wow, that's pretty creative
17:10:05 <sbp> not sure how publishers would feel about that, but...
17:10:10 <nslater> you have the nslater seal of approval, because of course, you were waiting for that
17:10:11 <sbp> seems a nice compromise
17:10:15 <sbp> hehe
17:10:18 <sbp> actually that does mean a lot
17:10:25 <nslater> hehe
17:10:26 <sbp> I mean, it's kinda getting back to the original intent of copyright
17:10:38 <nslater> yes, that makes perfect sense
17:10:51 <nslater> and, to get things straight, I have no problems with copyright per se :)
17:10:52 <sbp> which is to renumerate the author, striking the fine balance between making more people produce things (i.e. by getting paid for it) and providing those materials for the common good
17:11:03 <sbp> aye. it's just got all out of proportion lately
17:11:15 <sbp> I had a look at the copyright terms for all the countries in the world the other day
17:11:17 <sbp> it's on Wikipedia
17:11:23 <nslater> sbp: I hope that was for the benifit of the logs, because I would be insulted if you thought it needed explaining to me ;)
17:11:26 <sbp> about 98% of countries do author's life + N years
17:11:33 <sbp> where N is usually between 50 and 100 or so
17:11:40 <sbp> yes
17:11:46 * nslater chuckles
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17:12:00 <sbp> also summarising what I didn't previously know
17:12:01 <nslater> Talliesin obviously is outraged by this
17:12:10 <sbp> I figured that *some* countries might get it right
17:12:13 <sbp> but... oddly not
17:12:34 <z^> Did you see how some judge found part of US's copyright unconstitutional?
17:12:47 <sbp> there are some countries without any concept of copyright, though. I think Mauritius was one of them?
17:12:49 <sbp> nope?
17:12:57 <z^> It was on slashdot... hold on
17:13:05 <nslater> you know, you really should read Free Software Free Society by Richards Tallman, it pretty much covers exactly what you're talking about - it's title is a misnomer
17:13:09 <sbp> anyway, I feel bad about being silent on Whits
17:13:18 <z^> .title http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/274366894/article.pl
17:13:19 <sbp> but hopefully I'll find some compromise there too
17:13:21 <phenny> z^: Slashdot | Court Finds Part of Copyright Act Unconstitutional
17:13:24 <nslater> it's also free and available on the web, though purchasing a copy from the FSF helps support free software :D
17:13:30 <sbp> FSFS: and The Cathedral and the Bazaar?
17:13:34 <nslater> ugh
17:13:37 <sbp> hehe
17:13:40 <nslater> forget that that last one pls
17:13:46 <nslater> .g Free Software Free Society
17:13:46 <jsled> Richards Tallman?
17:13:46 <phenny> nslater: http://www.gnu.org/doc/book13.html
17:13:49 <sbp> what's wrong with it?
17:13:52 <jsled> What a nice name.
17:14:01 <sbp> it's just like the database
17:14:02 <nslater> nothing, just my reflex reaction to ESR ;)
17:14:08 <sbp> oh, you mean Tallman
17:14:21 <nslater> hmm?
17:14:26 <z^> I'm surprised you got the caps off, though
17:14:32 <nslater> ... I call RMS Richards Tallman, because it sounds better
17:14:41 <sbp> getcha caps off! getcha caps offa me o/
17:14:42 <z^> Ahh, it does
17:14:50 <nslater> [[[
17:14:51 <nslater> Richard Stallman is the prophet of the free software movement. He understood the dangers of software patents years ago. Now that this has become a crucial issue in the world, buy this book and read what he said.
17:14:52 <thelsdj> can anyone think of simple way in shell script to get list of all files before a specific file, or all files after a specific file? (also maybe inclusive/exclusive on the specified file) what i mean by before/after is just default ls ordering, or if you modify what ls orders by
17:14:55 <nslater> - Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World-Wide Web.
17:14:56 <nslater> thelsdj: VIOLENCE!!!
17:14:58 <z^> ... how did I mix up "off" and "right"
17:14:59 <nslater> ]]]
17:15:00 <z^> VIOLENCE!
17:15:03 <thelsdj> ouch
17:15:05 * thelsdj dies
17:15:39 <z^> thelsdj: man ls
17:16:01 <nslater> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf
17:16:11 <nslater> ... okay, no more FSF propaganda for today, scouts honour
17:16:13 <sbp> thelsdj: why not just pipe it into sed and delete everything before/after that file?
17:17:31 <nslater> find . | while read file; do if test "/some/file/" == "$file"; then break; else echo $file; fi; done
17:18:28 <sbp> won't you need a -maxdepth 1 there too?
17:18:40 <nslater> well, the find invocation was meant as an example command
17:18:46 <nslater> replace with whatever generates the file list
17:18:58 <nslater> sbp: anyway... this all sounds very interesting, let me know how your thoughts develop (esp. licencing/publishing) etc
17:19:13 <sbp> also, you can just do test blah || break
17:19:13 <sbp> okey dokey
17:19:26 <nslater> yup, that might look nicer
17:19:26 <sbp> well also, if I don't bother doing a book out of it, I can just dump it online
17:21:47 <nslater> are you planning to pull together all your old stuff too, or just new stuff?
17:22:02 <sbp> just new stuff, though some of it necessarily summarises the old stuff in new ways
17:22:17 <sbp> mainly I'm trying to integrate all those little thoughts, and the new ones, into a cohesive statement
17:22:25 <sbp> it's going surprisingly well
17:22:35 <sbp> not entirely sure where it's going
17:22:42 <cre8radix> http://data4.blog.de/media/236/1815236_b15ca20c3f_m.jpg
17:22:54 <cre8radix> fuck that guy!
17:23:02 <nslater> wat
17:23:05 <nslater> sbp: heh
17:23:11 <sbp> Terrance Conran?
17:23:49 <cre8radix> Wolfgang Schäuble
17:24:37 <sbp> oho
17:26:32 * cre8radix wants to puke in his face
17:26:49 <cre8radix> OMG!
17:26:50 <cre8radix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
17:26:56 <cre8radix> lol
17:27:01 <cre8radix> stupid yankees
17:27:25 <cre8radix> yes we can
17:27:32 <cre8radix> be fooled
17:27:33 <cre8radix> ruled
17:27:37 <cre8radix> fucked
17:27:41 <cre8radix> up the ass
17:27:45 <cre8radix> cuz
17:28:00 <cre8radix> we're one nation under
17:28:08 <cre8radix> narcotix
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17:29:52 <cre8radix> argh
17:30:10 <cre8radix> oh god
17:30:12 <cre8radix> please
17:30:18 <cre8radix> send the wave
17:30:32 <cre8radix> friggin cattle
17:30:44 <cre8radix> rofl
17:30:46 <cre8radix> yeah
17:30:48 <cre8radix> vote
17:30:52 <cre8radix> hrhr
17:30:57 <z^> oh god, that's scary
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17:33:39 <cre8radix> word!
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17:38:07 * cre8radix against the US
17:38:09 <cre8radix> http://data4.blog.de/media/195/1732195_0e3e143faa_m.gif
17:43:20 <z^> Heh
17:43:47 * z^ hopes cre8radix doesn't kill him for being usian
17:48:03 <cre8radix> nope
17:48:12 <z^> ...sure?
17:48:18 <cre8radix> c'mere fellow swhackian
17:48:36 <z^> ...put down the gun first
17:48:41 <z^> ...and the knife
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17:51:11 <cre8radix> hrhr
17:51:16 <sbp> ...and your cock
17:51:34 <z^> Yeah, I'm not like that
17:52:38 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Garrick-Left.png
17:52:42 <sbp> Garrick as Hamlet
17:53:06 <z^> Wow! Those grey checks are drawn /wonderfully/! I wonder how they did that!
17:53:26 * sbp bludgeons z^ with cre8radix's cock
17:53:35 * nwalsh snorts
17:53:57 * z^ 's face really looks like this: o_O
17:54:15 <sbp> always reminds me of Graham Linehan
17:54:20 <z^> Lets talk about something different...
17:54:35 <sbp> see especially;
17:54:38 <sbp> .title http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/portrait-of-a-genius/
17:54:44 <cre8radix> hrhr
17:54:44 <phenny> sbp: Portrait Of A Genius « Why, That’s Delightful!
17:54:45 <sbp> s/;/:/
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17:55:18 <sbp> ‘Marcel Berlins describes the list as “barking mad”. I suppose he’s annoyed at his poor position on the list…oh, my mistake! He’s not on the list at all! That’s because it’s a list that only geniuses are allowed on. Geniuses like me.’
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17:55:30 <Monty> hey plum
17:55:39 <plum> which i insist is a bug in but hey.
17:55:57 <sbp> he pisses all over the list whilst, perhaps unintentionally, showing why he's on it in the first place
17:56:04 <sbp> good stuff
17:57:01 * cre8radix hits sbp with guilhems cock
17:57:16 <cre8radix> http://josephboys.org/img/Buz_et_sa_GROSSE_bitte.jpg
17:57:20 <sbp> aw. you made me think he might be about when he's not
17:57:27 <sbp> I did have a nice chat with him the other day though
17:57:40 <sbp> ...
17:57:44 <sbp> (NSFW)
17:58:06 <cre8radix> :D
17:58:12 <cre8radix> riotpeer rox
17:58:27 <cre8radix> sbp: yeah... he's a real brother
18:01:19 * cre8radix is coming to london in june
18:01:54 * MoiraA is coming to London tomorrow
18:02:04 <MoiraA> terminal 5 worst luck :(
18:03:22 <cre8radix> what does (NSFW) stand for, sbp?
18:03:35 <junk> No Sheep Fucking in Wales
18:03:52 <junk> its the inverse to 'when in rome'..
18:04:08 <sbp> or Not Safe For Work
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18:07:46 <sbp> Not Safe for Hoovers
18:08:27 <junk> dyson or roland?
18:08:33 <sbp> it is not known
18:10:05 <cre8radix> Now Searchin For Hookers
18:10:59 <sbp> why, you must be the governer of New York state!
18:11:13 <sbp> odd, I usually spell it governor
18:11:21 <sbp> I think both are acceptable. let's ask the Big G
18:11:26 <sbp> .gcs governor governer
18:11:27 <phenny> governor (5,640,000), governer (392,000)
18:11:34 <sbp> nope. doubly weird
18:11:41 <junk> its english thats weird here
18:11:47 <sbp> .gcs asserter assertor
18:11:47 <phenny> assertor (47,200), asserter (39,900)
18:11:59 <sbp> now that's a split one
18:16:18 <thelsdj> i have had a renaissance in my xmoto playing, 572 levels beat out of 1252, getting closer and closer to the 50% mark
18:18:40 <z^> whoever explains this wins a cookie: http://softwarecustomizationservices.com/Other/VSFR/Appendix/pal256.gif
18:19:35 <thelsdj> i assume some custom 8 bit color palette
18:19:40 <thelsdj> or maybe a known one
18:19:54 <z^> Yeah, but what's up w/ the ordering one
18:19:58 <z^> *ordering
18:20:30 <z^> and there's 256 squares, a 0, and a 255, and repeated numbers. Thus, there's missing numbers as well
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18:21:26 <thelsdj> what ones are repeated?
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