00:00:35 * tonybaloney867 understands now
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01:32:03 <aspect> it's the quit messages, isn't it
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04:40:44 <thelsdj> "Hulk hates stupid giant cyborg things, Hulk hates australia. And most of all, Hulk hates personal pronouns." -- Incredible Hulk #86
04:43:37 <thelsdj> "Hulk, uh.. I don't, obviously, want to annoy you... I'm just... curious... I mean, I get that you threw those two shells at the cyborg to stop it. But how come, you know... How come you destroyed the _rest_ of the Sydney Opera House? I mean... you just knocked it down for _no reason_." "Had a reason" "Oh? Okay. What... uh.. What reason would that be?" "Can't stand opera"
05:33:24 <thelsdj> "Magento a good guy? *Fine*. Mutants, the majority? *check*. But Sentinels crashing through the floor instead of the ceiling...? That is just *wrong*!"
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06:07:21 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's jin!
06:08:33 <Louie`> any phenny module-maker here?
06:14:16 <jin> ugh wtf
06:14:37 <jin> keymap changed or smth, ctrl-x-s-x-c is freezing the term cuz of the ctrl-s
06:14:55 <jin> stupid emacs. and its unnecessarily long combinations
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06:20:58 <Monty> Thank goodness, kwijibo is back!
06:22:57 <jin> ksplice cannot handle semantic changes to data structures, but is able to automatically apply 84% of the kernel security patches at runtime
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08:05:05 <sbp> you dwirrowing nipperscorts
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08:05:57 * laplink can't be bothered to dig up the “NU” glyph right now…
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08:08:50 <nsh> .wik Dean Radin
08:08:51 <phenny> "Dean Radin (born February 29, 1952) is a researcher and author in the field of parapsychology." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Radin
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08:16:05 <sbp> .gc "newsworthy for the next hundred years"
08:16:06 <phenny> "newsworthy for the next hundred years": 0
08:16:20 <laplink> .gc newsworthy
08:16:20 <phenny> newsworthy: 2,440,000
08:16:27 <laplink> .gc newsunworthy
08:16:27 <phenny> newsunworthy: 19
08:16:33 <laplink> .gc unnewsworthy
08:16:33 <phenny> unnewsworthy: 4,880
08:16:36 <laplink> .gc unnews
08:16:36 <phenny> unnews: 80,500
08:16:55 <laplink> .gs unworthy of the *
08:16:56 <phenny> unworthy of the *: honour (4), slightest (3), presidency (3), trust (2), priesthood (2), performers (2), noble (2), narcissist's (2), name (2), liturgical (2)
08:21:18 <sbp> “We are proud to introduce you the beta version of the GroupMe! system. It combines Semantic Web technologies and Web 2.0 technologies, and demonstrates a new kind of social tagging system.” - http://groupme.org/GroupMe/
08:22:43 * nsh starts to hate rhetotical drift
08:22:51 <nsh> "Not so this time, as many of the more than 1,300 delegates were Paul supporters who viewed themselves as insurgents taking on the establishment."
08:23:00 <nsh> *rhetorical
08:23:33 <pwaring> wow, 1,300 supporters for ME
08:23:37 <laplink> .gc insurgent
08:23:38 <phenny> insurgent: 4,000,000
08:23:42 <laplink> .gc insurgency
08:23:43 <phenny> insurgency: 5,930,000
08:23:45 <laplink> .gc insurgents
08:23:45 <phenny> insurgents: 6,060,000
08:23:51 <laplink> .w insurgent
08:23:57 <laplink> .gd insurgent
08:23:58 <phenny> insurgent: (joint) Member of a political party who rebels against established leadership. (JP 1-02)
08:24:19 <laplink> .gd insurgents
08:24:20 <phenny> insurgents: An insurgency, or insurrection, is an armed uprising, or revolt against an established civil or political authority. ...
08:24:39 <laplink> .gd insurgency
08:24:40 <phenny> insurgency: an organized rebellion aimed at overthrowing a constituted government through the use of subversion and armed conflict
08:25:02 <laplink> .gd insurrection
08:25:02 <phenny> insurrection: rebellion: organized opposition to authority; a conflict in which one faction tries to wrest control from another
08:25:35 <sbp> PWAAaaaaaâââring
08:25:44 <sbp> omg botspam
08:25:56 <cre8radix> heya
08:25:56 <laplink> You dare? You?
08:26:04 <sbp> you botspam worse than anyone!
08:26:07 <sbp> you don't even use .gcs
08:26:25 <cre8radix> :D
08:26:30 <laplink> Consider that a lesson in picking mnemonics.
08:26:53 <sbp> I ought to just filter it so that you can *only* use gcs, perhaps? :-)
08:26:58 <laplink> And as for your other accusation, I demand you back up your claim with cold hard numbers, bub!
08:27:25 <sbp> well, 4,000,000, 5,930,000, and 6,060,000...
08:27:34 * laplink goes to get lunch while sbp fights with the logs…
08:27:53 <cre8radix> sbp: howzit?
08:28:56 <nsh> <prev> <next>
08:29:09 <nsh> ^^ not the best interface idea to come from reddit.com
08:29:20 <nsh> so, to get previous stories i click on next, right?
08:32:05 <sbp> cre8radix: coothxmang
08:32:32 <cre8radix> :)
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08:48:39 <_bjoern> "MSG VIA INTERNET" by "Claro Torpedo" is one of the most creatively titled spam messages I ever got.
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09:43:50 <nsh> .gs engaging the *
09:43:51 <phenny> engaging the *: disenfranchised (5), senses (4), muslim (4), millennials (4), learner (4), disengaged (4), ashg (4), workforce (3), taliban (3), stakeholders (3)
09:47:40 <_bjoern> .gc "engaging the you"
09:47:40 <phenny> "engaging the you": 26
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09:48:02 <_bjoern> .gcs "the i" "the u" "the me" "the you" "the we" "the us" "the them"
09:48:02 <phenny> _bjoern: Sorry, can only compare up to six things.
09:48:09 <_bjoern> I thought it's 7!
09:48:11 <_bjoern> .gcs "the i" "the u" "the me" "the you" "the we" "the us"
09:48:15 <phenny> "the us" (316,000,000), "the i" (25,100,000), "the u" (9,910,000), "the you" (8,470,000), "the me" (4,310,000), "the we" (3,530,000)
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09:50:12 <laplink> Grr. What was the name of Microsoft's most recent “We promise to publish documentation for our stuff so the nasty burocrats won't sue us” initiative?
09:50:28 <_bjoern> open specification promise?
09:50:57 <_bjoern> http://www.microsoft.com/interop/osp/default.mspx
09:51:14 <laplink> Aha! Thanks!"
09:51:29 <_bjoern> You're welcome!"
09:52:38 <nslater> mornin
09:56:25 <nsh> [[[
09:56:37 <nsh> Clay Shirky has been giving talks on his book Here Comes Everybody his "masterpiece," per Cory Doctorow and BoingBoing picks up one of them, from the Web 2.0 conference. Shirky has come up with a quantification of the attention that TV has been absorbing for more than half a century. Shirky defines as a unit of attention "the Wikipedia": 100 million person-hours of thought.
09:56:41 <nsh> As a society we have been burning 2,000 Wikipedias per year watching mostly sitcoms. We're stopping now.
09:56:45 <nsh> ]]] -/.
09:58:06 <_bjoern> Sitcoms aren't as good as they used to be.
09:58:08 <laplink> Well. He says “thought”.
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10:06:59 <nsh> NO. YOU STUPID FUCKING FARSCAPE CURSE-EUPHEMISMS ARE NOT COOL. OK
10:07:05 <nsh> *your
10:07:18 <nsh> JUST FUCK OFF AND DON'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU CAN BE VULGAR IN YOUR OWN FUCKING LANGUAGE
10:07:29 <_bjoern> What a shame you corrected that missing r
10:08:00 * nsh was tempted not to
10:09:18 <sbp> okay, here's a question
10:09:31 <_bjoern> nu
10:09:41 <sbp> are you looking forward to Web 2.0 going away, or do you think that whatever replaces it is going to be utterly more annoying? (if that's even possible)
10:09:45 <nsh> if it's about some way that using words from farscape could possible be cool. don't ask it
10:10:08 <_bjoern> go away in which way?
10:10:22 <sbp> go away in the same way that "DHTML" went away
10:10:23 <_bjoern> the meme with the jokes, all the sites, social networking, ...?
10:10:27 * nsh suspects there'll be no going away, just marketing metamorphosis
10:10:31 <nsh> and subsequently, moar annoying
10:11:25 <_bjoern> find the correlation between annoyance and profit and youll have your answer.
10:11:39 <sbp> hehe
10:12:03 <sbp> hmm. I make a noise more akin to hîh-hîh
10:12:35 <_bjoern> I make a sound more like OMG MY PIZZA SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT LONG AGO
10:12:57 <sbp> [[[
10:12:57 <sbp> Login:
10:12:58 <sbp> username: password:
10:12:58 <sbp> remember me
10:12:58 <sbp> Register
10:13:05 <sbp> ]]] - I hate this interface
10:14:51 <sbp> http://www.christofferriemer.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=33
10:14:57 <sbp> that's the guy responsible for groupme.org
10:15:43 <_bjoern> I hate hating things. It's so unpositive.
10:16:01 <sbp> : : : () () ()
10:18:04 * nslater misses DHTML
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10:20:36 * nslater hugs DHTML
10:20:52 <DHTML> Your penis is hard.
10:21:00 <nslater> sorry, does that offend you?
10:21:09 <nslater> perhaps you shouldn't hug me so tight ;)
10:21:42 <DHTML> Get off me now or I'll bombard you with 1x1 pixel gifs.
10:22:00 <nslater> sooounds kinkeh!
10:22:14 <_bjoern> nu
10:23:41 <DHTML> <LAYER>Monty</LAYER>
10:23:41 <Monty> my mind
10:27:43 <nslater> sbp: depends what you mean by Web 2.0 I guess - the design/aesthetics will change with taste but the architecture is here to stay, I think
10:28:10 <_bjoern> You mean the "architecture" is too good a joke to let it go?
10:28:22 <nslater> that of the open web, data web, aggregate web, whatever you want to call it
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10:29:02 <nslater> I think that's a good thing, certainly not a joke
10:29:42 <nslater> the total lack of understanding about progressive enchancement is another matter and something that I think will change over time, hopefully
10:34:19 <sbp> I meant all the irritating bits of Web 2.0
10:34:22 <sbp> which, to be fair, is most of it
10:34:38 <nslater> like what?
10:34:44 <sbp> "designing websites a bit better than we did last year" is what I would have called it
10:35:10 <nslater> the phrase "Web 2.0" is pretty vacuous, so I was trying to elucidate :)
10:35:19 <sbp> like all the naming and æsthetics and the hype and all the tagging bullshit and the overfocus on the utility of social networking and user created content and the outrageous sums of money for silly video &c. sites
10:35:20 <Monty> potty mouth!
10:35:33 <sbp> you don't like bullshit, Monty?
10:35:33 <Monty> screw you
10:35:40 <sbp> potty mouth!
10:36:19 <nslater> hmm, yeah, most of that stuff is nonsense and I would be happy to see it die
10:37:03 <nslater> the idea of the aggrigate web and progressive enhancement are pretty cool though, I hope they don't go anywhere soon
10:37:51 <nslater> did you ever read uncov?
10:37:59 <nslater> .title www.uncov.com
10:37:59 <phenny> nslater: uncov, uncovering web2
10:38:16 <nslater> I think you would find funny :p
10:47:57 <_bjoern> .wik Nosophobia
10:47:57 <phenny> "Nosophobia is a specific phobia, an irrational fear of contracting a disease, from Greek 'nosos' for 'disease' (as the 1913 Webster's Dictionary put it, 'morbid dread of a disease')." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosophobia
10:48:31 <_bjoern> If you consider Nosophobia is disease, I hope it's fear of contraction *an additional* disease.
11:01:34 <sbp> .wik Phobophobia
11:01:35 <phenny> "The English suffixes -phobia, -phobic, -phobe (of Greek origin: φόβος/φοβία ) occur in technical usage in psychiatry to construct words that describe irrational, disabling fear as a mental disorder (e.g., agoraphobia), in chemistry to describe chemical [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobophobia
11:02:49 <sbp> http://www.uncov.com/assets/2008/1/21/arrington-is-too-fat-to-run.jpg
11:03:17 <nslater> hehe, nice name
11:04:43 <nslater> oh wow, all the images have hidden messages in the URIs
11:07:00 <_bjoern> .wik Weblin
11:07:01 <phenny> "Thanks for uploading Image:Face 1.JPG." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Weblin
11:07:24 * _bjoern 's looking at http://www.weblin.com
11:07:45 <_bjoern> ad: two people, "Weblin is really fun." "Yeah."
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11:24:05 <sbp> woah
11:24:07 <sbp> .title http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNkySVNNpog
11:24:07 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Stéphane Ortelli at 1000km Monza (multiple views)
11:24:31 <sbp> spectacular crash. he only broke his ankle
11:25:19 <sbp> also, flickr-lols via tav:
11:25:19 <sbp> http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/07/memories1.jpg
11:31:40 <Monty> nslater: You asked me to remind you to search youtube for jonathan meades
11:31:42 <Monty> nslater: You asked me to remind you to search youtube for jonathan meades
11:32:08 <nslater> oh bah
11:34:17 <sbp> is not beink chore, is beink joy
11:34:24 <nslater> watching
11:34:34 <nslater> I cant even remember the context
11:36:15 <sbp> gah, applications that have package managers on the Mac
11:36:20 <sbp> YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT
11:36:28 <nslater> hmm?
11:36:47 <sbp> normally to install a Mac application, you just drag the .app to /Applications or wherever, right?
11:37:01 <sbp> well some programs have a full Windows-style installer, bunging all kinds of crazy crap everywhere
11:37:03 <sbp> which is bad
11:37:08 <nslater> heh
11:37:26 <sbp> if something the size of OpenOffice or Firefox can use a single .app, SO CAN YOU
11:38:14 <nslater> wtf, this guy is walking through a lake
11:38:17 <nslater> that was unexpected
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11:42:20 <Monty> welcome, Arnia
11:51:32 <sbp> walking through a lake: ahaha. I know exactly the one you mean
11:51:46 <nslater> this guy is pretty funny and interesting at the same time, good combo
11:51:54 <sbp> yeps!
11:52:08 <sbp> got link to the one you're watching?
11:52:23 <nslater> um, it's stowe garden 1/5
11:52:34 <nslater> links is on OS X and I cant copypaste
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11:54:38 <LOLdemort> test?
11:54:59 <Arnia> Stowe House, Bucks?
11:55:01 <LOLdemort> heh,
11:55:23 <LOLdemort> im
11:55:29 <nslater> hmm
11:55:45 <Arnia> fmmm
11:55:58 <LOLdemort> PRIVMSG
11:56:01 <Arnia> (I don't like 'g' this early in the morning)
11:56:15 <LOLdemort> "test
11:56:19 <nslater> weird
11:56:27 <LOLdemort> test\
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12:02:14 <sbp> http://www.scricciolo.com/scopri.jpg
12:02:24 <sbp> if anyone can explain that image, I'll be quite impressed
12:02:37 <sbp> (it's from an ornithology website)
12:03:17 <_bjoern> I'm in Photoshop
12:03:20 <_bjoern> filling out a form
12:03:24 <_bjoern> imported from a pdf
12:03:34 <_bjoern> which I got from filling out a web form
12:03:47 <_bjoern> with my tablet, adding my signature
12:03:54 <_bjoern> to fax it back to my provider
12:04:08 <_bjoern> for which I installed internet2fax software
12:04:14 <_bjoern> on the virtual xp machine
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12:08:18 <_bjoern> the 2fax software crashes on first run
12:08:20 <cre8radix> sbp: well... 'tis an ornithological italian site
12:08:26 <cre8radix> and she's a chick!
12:09:19 <_bjoern> perhaps because I deactivated the spooler service...
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12:19:20 <sbp> cre8radix: I guess that does make sense
12:22:43 <nsh> vfgtrbu8hyj9ikol;p[']#
12:22:48 <nsh> @]#
12:22:58 <nsh> (it's what my face is saying)
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12:32:52 <_bjoern> great, it's telling me it won't fax where I want it to fax to.
12:33:04 <_bjoern> Should I plug my ISDN card in again?
12:33:13 <_bjoern> I wonder whether that's actually a PCI card...
12:33:20 <_bjoern> I don't think I have ISA slots anymore.
12:34:45 <_bjoern> network, graphics, network, unknown (seems to have an IDE port on it!), ...
12:35:05 <_bjoern> soundblaster
12:35:58 <_bjoern> okay found it, it's an ISA card of course
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12:36:49 <_bjoern> and no, of course no isa slot
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12:50:41 <sbp> http://acmeme.org/all/travel/mexico_city/aridzone/dogses/lola_butthole.JPG
12:50:48 <sbp> found whilst searching for a bird score
12:50:59 <sbp> searching for bird stuff brings up really weird images sometimes
12:53:21 <nsh> what's a bird score?
12:54:16 <nsh> .gs obviously specious *
12:54:17 <phenny> obviously specious *: argument (6), reasoning (3), statement (2), reasons gnah (2), of course (2), letter covering (2), cultural (2), arguments (2)
12:56:59 <sbp> nsh: e.g. http://inamidst.com/stuff/images/bobolink
12:57:26 * nsh frowns
12:57:42 <nsh> there needs to be a new typographical alternative to the question mark for internet use
12:58:08 <sbp> ¿
12:58:44 <nsh> it means "this is a question, but i don't really care all that much. if you would take some time to use the english language and exlain then i would show interest and be appreciative. however, if you just post a url or search term, i might put ricin in your cornflakes"
12:58:53 <nsh> *explain
12:59:06 <sbp> images/bobolink is great because it shows the limitations of western musical notation for birdsong. and, well, just shows the limitations in general
12:59:09 <nsh> i would use that punctuation-mark a lot
12:59:42 <sbp> dude, don't piss on my URI
12:59:49 <sbp> it's the single greatest thing I've found online all day!
12:59:54 <sbp> I only give you the best, you know
12:59:58 <nsh> next time say "musical score for birdsong: <URI>"
13:00:12 <nsh> and your identifiers will remain happily urine-free
13:00:16 <sbp> you must have known I was replying to your question because I said e.g.
13:00:20 <sbp> and you'd only just asked it
13:00:34 <sbp> adding more information than it required would have been überfailsome
13:01:36 * nsh spins the coin of appropriate sentiment, watches it bounce and rotate and finally land on the upright edge of "meh"
13:01:47 <sbp> I'll take a meh
13:01:51 <nsh> bird scores == cool, though
13:02:09 <sbp> I've been generating sonograms for birds too
13:02:29 <sbp> it's kinda interesting to watch, but doesn't really help much with learning if you can't reproduce the sound from the graph
13:02:30 <nsh> XORsma
13:02:45 <nsh> that is the true
13:03:16 <sbp> one thing it does help with is working out what's going on with the birds when they do all brZIziwIzIZrigaiatgtriggaritrill shit that is too fast to follow
13:04:53 <sbp> no other kind of animal gets as much attention from poets as the bird
13:04:57 <sbp> I wonder why that is?
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13:06:56 <sbp> hahaha
13:06:57 <sbp> [[[
13:06:58 <sbp> Arguments continue about whether prose poetry is actually a form of poetry or a form of prose (or a separate genre altogether).
13:07:03 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose_poetry
13:07:44 * sbp wants to argue about that for an hour with someone who actually cares about it, just to see what happens
13:07:46 <nsh> when i was 12
13:07:51 <nsh> it wasn't poetry if it didn't rhyme
13:07:55 <sbp> hehe
13:08:02 <nsh> then i was like not twelve
13:08:06 <nsh> and it ceased being a problem
13:08:39 <nsh> by then, of course, we were mid-war and the word rations were in place
13:08:53 <sbp> “As a specific form, prose poetry is generally assumed to have originated in 19th-century France.” — ehwhat, no mention of Coleridge?
13:09:20 <sbp> oh: “Earlier rapturous, rhythmic, image-laden prose from previous centuries, such as that found in Jeremy Taylor and Thomas de Quincey, strikes 21st-century readers as having something of a poetic quality.”
13:09:22 <sbp> well pfft
13:11:27 <sbp> dear oh dear, some of the links from the bottom are bad
13:11:34 <sbp> e.g. http://www.zafusy.com/
13:12:03 <sbp> and http://ridercreations.com/CJ%27s/Prose%20Poetry.htm
13:13:16 <sbp> dear oh dears
13:13:16 <Monty> Vero_, btw, we're not sure how can *only* use a web and profit and you'd only broke his emergency contacts, his parents
13:13:30 <sbp> maybe we should just lock everything written after 1950 away in a warehouse somewhere
13:13:32 <_bjoern> True Monty, but what about the fish prices?
13:13:33 <Monty> hehe, nice name
13:13:37 <laplink> .head http://www.archive.org/
13:13:38 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.archive.org/
13:13:39 <_bjoern> Thanks Monty.
13:13:42 <Monty> ]]] - http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/245
13:13:47 <sbp> until we've had time to properly digest the pre-1950 stuff
13:14:37 <_bjoern> Everything written after 1950 is locked away in a warehouse somewhere. And you with it.
13:14:49 <_bjoern> I'm sorry I did not tell you this earlier.
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13:15:35 <sbp> huh. "The Bohemians of the Northern Quarter"
13:15:41 <sbp> at the bottom of http://wildstrawberries.org/_wsn/page4.html
13:15:46 <sbp> is actually passable
13:15:57 <sbp> (don't read the other two, for goodness' sake)
13:15:57 <Monty> If you can only broke his "masterpiece," per Cory Doctorow and 6,060,000...
13:16:02 <sbp> shut the fuck up Monty
13:16:03 <Monty> screw you
13:16:31 <_bjoern> I say this round goes to Monty.
13:16:31 <Monty> You say you say this round goes to monty ?
13:16:42 <_bjoern> I say I say that Monty.
13:16:43 <Monty> nah just shows the PC
13:17:00 <sbp> “It used to be said that prose poetry was impossible in English because the English language was not so strictly governed by rules as was the French language. In the twentieth century, when English prose became increasingly ruled by the iron laws of America's Strunk and White, this may no longer have been the case.” - Wikipedia
13:17:18 <_bjoern> pwnd
13:19:47 <nsh> DAMN YOU STRUNK AND WHITE
13:19:59 <nsh> WHY MUST YOU DESTROY ALL GOOD THINGS
13:23:19 <sbp> hehe
13:24:53 <nsh> i remember first reading strunk and white, and thinking "god man, way to take to fun out of writing and reading in one fell swoop"
13:25:35 <nsh> they shoulda called it "Stylistics of Newspeak"
13:31:40 <sbp> [[[
13:31:41 <sbp> Valéry's most striking achievement is perhaps his monumental intellectual diary, called the Cahiers (Notebooks). Early every morning of his adult life, he contributed something to the Cahiers, prompting him to write: "Having dedicated those hours to the life of the mind, I thereby earn the right to be stupid for the rest of the day."
13:31:46 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Val%C3%A9ry
13:33:31 <nsh> sounds super
13:34:51 <nsh> man
13:34:57 <nsh> guy had an impressive moustache
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13:35:38 <sbp> okay
13:35:41 <sbp> awesome things to do
13:35:51 <sbp> waggle your finger at someone in admonishment
13:35:57 <sbp> and at the same time, say in a funny voice:
13:36:06 <sbp> "for the snark was a BOJUM, you see!"
13:36:22 <nsh> NOTED.
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13:41:49 <sbp> ouch
13:41:49 <sbp> [[[
13:41:49 <sbp> "We did some research and discovered the cinquain was invented around the turn of the century by one Adelaide Crapsey, a humongously sensitive Vassar grad who died young of consumption and general weepiness. We have here in front of us several books of cinquains by Miss Crapsey, a hugely tragic figure, and we must say these are the most effete and vomitacious versifications, poems so ickily precious and pretentious they make haiku look like Kipling." (The Washingt
13:41:50 <sbp> on Post May 26, 1996)
13:41:52 <sbp> ]]]
13:43:45 <sbp> bwahaha
13:43:48 <sbp> ‘Robert Frost later remarked that writing free verse was like "playing tennis without a net".’
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13:54:20 <Monty> lo Arnia
13:58:58 <sbp> [[[
13:58:59 <sbp> All this was anticipated
13:58:59 <sbp> by Kant when he said in the Critique of Judgement that the work of genius
13:58:59 <sbp> is not subject to law but is capable of becoming law for future production.
13:58:59 <sbp> But of course whether this is so or not in the case of any particular innova-
13:59:01 <sbp> tive work, often only time can tell.
13:59:06 <sbp> ]]] - Harold Osborne
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14:01:14 <nsh> what's search engine speak for "ONLY THIS FUCKING WORD"
14:03:12 <sbp> +word
14:04:06 * nsh tries with no optimism at all
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14:04:45 <nsh> no luck
14:05:13 <nsh> fucking arsecunt twatclown douchhat alibris
14:05:38 <sbp> insult
14:05:39 <Monty> sbp: Kiss my arse you camel madasfucking, badger smashing, ass wipe watching, shmegma spewing, pig ass licking scroat sucking, dick smeller "No, not the arse again, I've still not got the can of deoderant out!" saying, carrot tops mastercating, knob cheese dog wanking, single barrel pump action yogurt rifle feeling, scragging fart sucker ass licking scroat sucking, weiner-cleaner carressing, count fagula excrutiatoriating, arsepipe curb-crawling, flange-piec
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14:14:02 <nsh> Ideas; : a Volume of Ideas, Notions & Emotions, Clear Or Confused, Which Have Moved the Minds of Men
14:14:02 <nsh> by Geoffrey Grigson
14:14:13 <nsh> now *that's* how you title a book
14:15:19 <nsh> and that was, i believe, the greatest book i have ever read
14:15:29 <nsh> though it was quite a few years ago
14:17:28 <nsh> moar examples of good titleing from the same series:
14:17:37 <nsh> People: People
14:17:37 <nsh> A volume of the good, bad, great & eccentric who illustrate the admirable diversity of Man
14:17:50 <nsh> Places: A volume of travel in space and time - places which have delighted intrigued and intimidated men
14:18:13 <nsh> Things: A volume about the origin and early history of many things, common and less common, essential and inessential
14:18:48 <nsh> i think by the last one they were rolling up the tube and squeezing at the spout
14:18:58 <nsh> but it was still a fuckoff tube of awesome
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14:27:31 <sbp> nsh: can you give a summary of Grigson?
14:27:36 <sbp> there's hardly anything about it on the web
14:28:12 <nsh> it's awesome, buy a copy
14:28:17 * nsh can't remember the other volumes
14:28:23 <nsh> but the Ideas one is definitely worth owning
14:28:38 <sbp> what's it about? what's in it? what's the point of it?
14:28:47 <nsh> alibris has it for 5 from some america dealer
14:29:14 <nsh> what's "Ideas; : a Volume of Ideas, Notions & Emotions, Clear Or Confused, Which Have Moved the Minds of Men" about?
14:29:42 <nsh> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1309187
14:29:53 <sbp> ah! thanks
14:30:24 <nsh> is np
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14:31:19 <Monty> howdy, tonybaloney867
14:31:30 <tonybaloney867> Good morning, Monty
14:31:31 <Monty> heh,
14:36:11 <nsh> damnit internet
14:36:22 <nsh> sometimes you just don't understand your place in life
14:37:19 <nsh> what you need to give me, right now, is a wordpress blog consisting solely of embedded videos of stand-up acts, choosen discerningly and with a concise review underneath
14:37:36 <nsh> MAKE IT THE HAPPEN NOW
14:38:53 <nsh> and no, internet
14:39:10 <nsh> anyone who uses the term "F-bomb" is not fucking suitable for the task of discerning quality comedic acts
14:39:31 <nsh> stupid internet, do you still know nothing of my requirements?
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14:50:32 <_bjoern> http://s7.directupload.net/images/080422/p6elc6k2.gif
14:56:16 <_bjoern> .title http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article3805196.ece
14:56:16 <phenny> _bjoern: Is technology ruining children? - Times Online
14:57:19 <nsh> women's section of the times
14:57:26 <nsh> bastion of journalism that it is
14:57:33 <nsh> shall not be
14:57:37 <nsh> on my reading list, too soon
14:58:29 <sbp> a meadow lark
14:58:33 <sbp> softly calling
14:58:41 <sbp> is a screetch
14:58:50 <sbp> to nsh's (journalism-ears)
14:59:28 <sbp> that had too clear a premise and sentiment to be a good modern poetry parody
14:59:29 <sbp> oh well
14:59:41 * nsh smiles
14:59:48 <sbp> (being that the inanity of random murmurings is a shriek to the intelligent)
15:00:03 <nsh> i was going to note that a meadow lark does not demand attention in the way a sudden shriek does
15:00:12 <sbp> heh, true
15:00:14 <nsh> and some point about journalism
15:00:18 <nsh> but i couldn't be bothered
15:00:19 <nsh> :-)
15:00:20 <sbp> so it failed from that perspective
15:00:26 <sbp> and was therefore a successful parody! :-)
15:00:37 <nsh> yay
15:00:50 <nsh> the seven twelve balance is restored
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15:02:24 <nsh> thelsdj: what you say? the place go now? when power face crush tingle?
15:02:57 <_bjoern> .gc Zeitwertgutschrift
15:02:58 <phenny> Zeitwertgutschrift: 26,600
15:10:04 <Arnia> Hm... anyone with R skills here?
15:10:33 <Arnia> I have a data frame which contains four independent variables and two dependent variables
15:11:27 <Arnia> I have repeated data amongst the independent variables (repeated experiments with the same conditions) and want to compress those repeats to the means of the dependent variables
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15:20:33 <nsh> .t est
15:20:34 <phenny> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:54:36 EST
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15:27:51 <nsh> sbp
15:28:08 <nsh> guess what the number one result for "herostratus and prometheus" is?
15:28:27 <_bjoern> '"herostratus and prometheus"' or 'herostratus and prometheus'?
15:28:50 <_bjoern> guessing swhack is never too far off
15:28:53 <_bjoern> .g "herostratus and prometheus"
15:28:54 <phenny> _bjoern: No results found for '"herostratus and prometheus"'.
15:28:57 <_bjoern> .g herostratus and prometheus
15:28:58 <phenny> _bjoern: http://inamidst.com/whits/2008/criticism
15:29:11 <_bjoern> or sbp's sites for that matter.
15:51:23 <_bjoern> Why o why did they make Bubba the Caveduck female in the de version?
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15:57:34 <sbp> muahaha. win!
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16:14:43 <cre8radix> because dux and especially cavedux MUST be females
16:14:44 <cre8radix> :D
16:14:58 <cre8radix> die geile schnatter
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16:51:49 <Morbus> .calc 33931/1097879*100
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16:52:01 <Morbus> .calc 65524/1997884*100
16:52:02 <phenny> Morbus: Sorry, can't calculate that.
16:52:12 <Morbus> what?!
16:52:16 <Morbus> PEHNY, STOP STUCKING.
16:52:28 <Morbus> .calc 33931/1097879*100
16:54:01 <sbp> Morbus: use .c
16:54:05 <Morbus> why?
16:54:07 <Morbus> what happened?
16:54:11 <Morbus> i've always used calc.
16:54:13 <Morbus> CHANGE IS BAD.
16:54:18 <Morbus> .c 33931/1097879*100
16:54:19 <phenny> (33 931 / 1 097 879) * 100 = 3.09059559
16:54:23 <sbp> well, nslater made a debian package out of phenny
16:54:26 <Morbus> .c 65524/1997884*100
16:54:28 <phenny> (65 524 / 1 997 884) * 100 = 3.27966989
16:54:36 <sbp> which meant I had to find a "free" calculator
16:54:37 <Morbus> 3.0% in the USA, 3.2% in the world.
16:54:38 <Morbus> hell ya.
16:54:42 <sbp> and .calc is the crappy free calculator I used
16:54:56 <sbp> whereas, for our Freenode phenny only, .c is the old command
16:55:32 <Morbus> DEAR NSLATER: THANKS FOR FUCKING UP PHENNY
16:55:42 <sbp> hehe
16:55:51 * Morbus wnaders off to try to break into 2%.
16:55:58 <sbp> good luck mang
16:56:01 <Morbus> \o/
16:56:20 <Morbus> sbp: oh, hey.
16:56:23 <Morbus> i had a question for you.
16:56:23 <sbp> hellos
16:56:27 <Morbus> your firefox history script.
16:56:31 <Morbus> how much of firefox is scriptable in this way?
16:56:38 <Morbus> could i script the downloading of 150 URLs?
16:56:42 <sbp> a surprising amount!
16:56:46 <sbp> yeah, almost definitely
16:56:51 <Morbus> i'm still attempting to recreate my xbox 360 achievement list.
16:56:57 <sbp> problem is, it's really hard to look a lot of the shit up
16:57:03 <Morbus> sbp: ok. sometime this week, we should try to work on that.
16:57:06 <sbp> you have to go through endless scraps of awful documentation
16:57:26 <sbp> okey dokey, ping me when you start on it
16:57:35 <Morbus> there was something i hung on to...
16:57:39 * Morbus pokes around.
16:58:49 <Morbus> http://www.urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/archives/2008/03/automating_fire.html
16:59:06 <Morbus> hrm. oh.
16:59:10 <Morbus> this requires an external fuck up.
16:59:11 <Morbus> nevermind.
16:59:15 <Morbus> i guess it's not what i thought it was.
16:59:15 <sbp> :-)
16:59:19 <phenny> Morbus: Sorry, can't calculate that.
16:59:21 * Morbus deletes
16:59:31 <Morbus> phenny: calculate the suck ratio of nslater.
16:59:49 <Morbus> aanNNyways.
16:59:50 * Morbus wadners off.
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17:05:31 <phenny> Morbus: Sorry, can't calculate that.
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17:15:51 <nslater> plum, flame Morbus
17:15:55 <plum> Morbus, thats a big fucker of a genus, i am an idiot. sigh, not that I expect you to understand.
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17:18:17 <mahound> hello
17:18:45 <saml> hi mahound
17:18:51 <mahound> hey saml
17:19:17 <saml> we are IT consultants.
17:21:07 <_bjoern> We are?
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17:21:35 <nslater> I AM INTERNET CONSULTONT
17:22:48 <nslater> _bjoern: pay me dollarz and I will consult ur internets
17:22:48 * Monty spots someone who needs to learn English...
17:22:55 <nslater> lawl
17:25:17 <saml> we recommend you Windows Vista Business Ultimate Edition with SP1 preloaded with Windows XP pre downgraded.
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17:25:48 <_bjoern> XP predowngraded to Vista, or where does it come into play?
17:25:59 <mahound> :)
17:28:37 <jsled> Monty has spots.
17:28:47 <Monty> last year" is never heard such as if i remember me when English because dux and same way to get a premise and who is generally assumed to Scotland after 1950 away in picking mnemonics.
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17:35:14 <nslater> occasionally OS X makes this *phwing* sound... anyone know what it is?
17:35:37 <nslater> it happens when im doing nothing, literally, just reading something then all of a sudden *phwing*
17:35:52 <nslater> nothing flashing, no other open windows, no bouncing icons, just *phwing*
17:35:59 <nslater> my work machine did it today too
17:36:02 <nslater> someone halp pls
17:36:28 <nslater> .g os x phwing
17:36:29 <phenny> nslater: http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/IW3P/IB/2003/12/25/000094946_03121604015422/Rendered/INDEX/multi0page.txt
17:36:49 <nslater> woah, wtf is that document about
17:37:16 <nslater> .gc phwing
17:37:16 <phenny> phwing: 437
17:39:08 <mahound> looks to me as a poorly ocr'd document :/
17:42:43 <zachb> My friend noticed something odd in ukian law
17:42:43 <Monty> alibris has enough vocab to note that using words of plans
17:52:17 <tobbez> "Reseachers Discover Massive Asshole In Blogoshpere" -- http://www.theonion.com/content/node/78337
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17:56:03 <nslater> phenny: tell _bjoern http://www.happyfunpundit.com/hfp/archives/000514.html
17:56:03 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
17:57:27 * zachb jawdrops
17:57:50 <nslater> lawl, Ensign Gomez
17:58:49 <nslater> "Remember when Marvin the Martian was going to blow up the Earth, because it obstructed his view of Venus? And how Bugs Bunny stopped him by stealing the Illudium Q36 Space Modulator? Well, in the Star Trek universe, Bugs would be doing time. Probably in a room filled with Roseanne lookalikes wearing spandex uniforms, walking through doors going WHEET! all day."
17:59:01 <zachb> nslater: how's the death machine going?
17:59:07 <nslater> hmm?
18:00:14 <zachb> Publish?
18:00:23 <nslater> oh, shush, wrong channel dude
18:01:28 <zachb> Its the right channel now
18:01:41 <sbp> you're the right channel now
18:01:55 <nslater> argh, confusion
18:02:07 <nslater> sbp: i have a link for you somewhere...
18:02:16 <zachb> spelled incorrectly!
18:04:44 <nslater> sbp: http://www.astronomyreport.com/research/Northern_lights_glimmer_with_unexpected_trait.asp
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18:04:56 <nslater> sbp: looks significantly less interesting than I thought it was going to be, oh well
18:06:24 <nslater> .title http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/technology/28google.html
18:06:26 <phenny> nslater: The New York Times > Log In
18:06:35 <nslater> .title http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/27/google-experiments-with-next-generation-image-search/
18:06:36 <phenny> nslater: Google Experiments With Next Generation Image Search
18:08:05 <nslater> stupid techcrunch fails to understand pagerank
18:08:24 <nslater> "In effect, they’re talking about something similar to PageRank for images (but without the linking behavior)." - so, well, pretty much nothing like pagerank then?
18:08:38 <cre8radix> :D
18:08:39 <cre8radix> http://xkcd.com/416/
18:09:27 <zachb> heh
18:09:32 <zachb> Yeah, cre8radix, awesomeness
18:09:54 <cre8radix> hrhr
18:10:42 * cre8radix remembers the bluesnarfers sitting in front of the bundestag in DE, sniffing phones of parlamentarians
18:10:50 <cre8radix> ;P
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18:24:20 <sbp> auroral polarisation? interesting
18:31:52 <cre8radix> lol
18:31:53 <cre8radix> http://xkcd.com/413/
18:32:02 <cre8radix> sbp: ^^
18:35:59 <zachb> heh, my friend wanted to make one of those, but I don't think it's a great idea
18:36:05 <zachb> since so many people seem to want to do it
18:36:09 <zachb> not unique enough
18:36:58 <zachb> Viens avec moi si vous voulez vivre!
18:38:09 <zachb> sorry, language spasm
18:40:17 <cre8radix> :D
18:44:27 <zachb> I love those... but they're weird
18:44:43 <zachb> I just shout (or think) something random in french
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18:48:15 <Monty> hi jeffarch, how ya doing?
18:49:32 <_bjoern> .u ?
18:49:32 <phenny> U+003F QUESTION MARK (?)
18:49:34 <phenny> _bjoern: 18:30Z <nslater> tell _bjoern http://www.happyfunpundit.com/hfp/archives/000514.html
18:57:34 <sbp> ahaha, http://xkcd.com/416/ is funnier
19:05:33 <zachb> How does that work?
19:09:16 <_bjoern> Any tool that will find duplicate images in a directory? They need to be the same pixel by pixel, not necessarily byte by byte. images would be png.
19:09:24 <_bjoern> perhaps imagick has something for it?
19:09:42 <_bjoern> also, one that prints image dimensions would be nice
19:09:53 <_bjoern> Perhaps I should just script something...
19:11:53 <zachb> imagemagick probably has it
19:14:55 <_bjoern> the simple method would be to load the raw rgba data and hash it, then compare all the hashes, compare rgba data of matching hashes.
19:15:13 <_bjoern> there is a `compare` tool in imagick but it's not quite what I need it seems
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19:15:50 <_bjoern> identify gives the resolution
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19:48:40 <_bjoern> also very nice would be a tool that takes N AxB sized images and renders all of them onto a single image in a Wx(ceil N/W) grid.
19:55:50 <zachb> probably exists
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20:08:51 <nsh> "eww, gross" @ dexter
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20:22:56 <_bjoern> .c 400 times 120
20:22:56 <phenny> 400 times 120 = 48 000
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20:28:00 <Arnia> .title http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/28/1813223.shtml
20:28:01 <phenny> Arnia: Slashdot | Ruby and Java Running in JavaScript
20:28:27 <Arnia> What is interesting is the number of *-to-Javascript converters there are
20:28:52 <Arnia> Coupled with the planned move of JavascriptCore to a bytecode machine, it is food for thought
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20:35:06 * Arnia worries about the 'semantic web machine' comment in #swig
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20:43:39 <procto> Arnia: I think the web is becoming HyperCard slowly but surely
20:46:59 <Arnia> procto: not far off. That particular development is good for one of my ideas
20:47:12 <Arnia> Still, fascinating
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21:02:47 * nslater puts Arnia into a semantic web machine
21:04:24 <Arnia> nslater: :p
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21:06:32 <_bjoern> .c (775 KB per 50) times 400
21:06:32 <phenny> ((775 KB) per 50) times 400 = 6.0546875 megabytes
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21:12:30 <nslater> dahut!
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21:15:32 <Monty> howdy, nwalsh
21:15:54 <nslater> plum, flame Monty
21:15:54 <Monty> Earlier you said your imperfections sorry for your wanting to chat with I when you are depressed .
21:15:59 <plum> Monty, yes, but that doesnt explain every bot shutting up, sjhiot this idiot up pllease. ugh, why am I wasting my energy on you.
21:16:02 <Monty> open web, aggregate web, aggregate web, whatever it to mee
21:18:25 <Arnia> plum, flame nslater
21:18:27 <procto> hahah that is a fabulous song
21:18:31 <plum> nslater, it was this fucker owes me several hours of my life back bad, shit shit film. sigh, not that I expect you to understand.
21:18:39 <procto> it's like a sea shanty
21:18:43 <procto> or a drinking song
21:18:48 <Arnia> The Semantic Web Shanty
21:18:52 <procto> open web, aggregate web, aggregate web, whatever it to mee!!!
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21:44:09 <nsh> bollocks (reading festival length)
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21:59:43 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2540350420070925
21:59:43 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
22:00:52 <procto> _bjoern: amusing, but the article seems to take the position that this is somehow bad
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22:01:46 <procto> most americans i know no matter their level of education do not pronounce foreign names "correctly"
22:02:32 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7370903.stm
22:02:32 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
22:03:19 <thelsdj> i think the 'bad' thing is that the leader of the US should already know how to pronounce the names of other world leaders
22:04:44 <clsn> He can't even pronounce "nuclear"; don't hassle him for furren names.
22:05:58 <_bjoern> "HACKERS HAVE MANAGED to shut down the Bank of Israel for two whole days, taking advantage of the Jewish festival of Passover, when senior staff members were out of the office." - http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/04/27/bank-israel-hacked-temporarily
22:07:48 <clsn> Ooh, lemme see.
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22:10:23 <clsn> Huh. I am not particularly dismayed that Bush uses phonetics on his teleprompter. It is reasonable in a writing system as weird as Latin/English and with the amount of different rules in use.
22:11:32 <clsn> News announcers do the same.
22:15:03 <zachb> j,,
22:15:06 <zachb> *hmm
22:15:16 <zachb> A local bank got robbed
22:15:29 <zachb> People are kinda surprised...
22:16:03 <zachb> police ended up shooting the robber, sadly right by a local day-care place
22:16:38 <procto> zachb: which bank?
22:16:48 <zachb> not sure of the name, but it's really local
22:16:52 <jeffarch> was surely just taking out a loan for gas
22:16:57 <zachb> heh ;p
22:19:26 <zachb> Whoo!
22:19:32 <jeffarch> for the get-away car ;)
22:19:33 <zachb> handling read vs. unread
22:19:38 <zachb> oops, wrong window...
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22:19:45 <Monty> But what does jewel have to do with the price of fish?
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22:32:21 * Arnia notes that US petrol prices are still stupidly low
22:33:01 <procto> seriously
22:33:18 <procto> as someone who is very ardently for lower taxes in most cases
22:33:32 <procto> a carbon tax would be very welcome
22:34:06 <Arnia> meh, taxes pay for services. Although, that being said, the US Government doesn't really provide that much in the way of services
22:35:33 <Arnia> (from my limited knowledge of the machinations of the US state)
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22:38:20 <jeffarch> low gas prices in the US subsidize SUV purchases
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22:41:11 <bancus> Erm. SUVs use more gas anyway.
22:41:18 <bancus> The low gas prices affect all of us equally.
22:42:14 <jeffarch> yeah, just a little sarcasm there
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22:51:06 <procto> Arnia: not to get into a political discussion, but taxes are just one way to get services. (note that corporate privativation is something I definitely do not advocate)
22:51:18 <Arnia> Other ways?
22:51:25 <clsn> Sleeping with government officials.
22:52:03 <procto> I oppone the model on the grounds of 1) centralived beurocracy inefficiency 2) my ethical disagreement with thi coercion of payments, common good or notu
22:52:18 <procto> typing is obviously not provided for by my taxes
22:52:34 <procto> Arnia: the US spends more per citizen on healthcare than the UK
22:52:57 <procto> Arnia: although our highend care here is quite a bit better than the UK's, the lower end services are much lacking
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22:53:21 <Arnia> We don't really have high-end or low-end :p
22:53:24 <procto> even the UK divides the NHS into parts, so it can be more efficient
22:53:25 <Arnia> It is all of a muchness
22:53:37 * nsh read recently a reasonable figure of 10% private efficiency compared to public in healthcare
22:53:54 <Arnia> nsh: Hm?
22:54:03 <procto> I have to get back to computational linguistics finals
22:54:10 <nsh> that is, private healthcare costs 10 times as much for the same level of coverage
22:54:19 <Arnia> Interesting
22:54:22 <procto> but I'll just say that non-gov't doesn't mean for-profit
22:54:45 <Arnia> Be interesting, therefore, to see the skew and kurtosis on healthcare 'quality' against cost in the US
22:56:01 <_bjoern> .c 6 MB per 18 seconds in GB/hour
22:56:02 <phenny> (6 MB) per (18 seconds) = 1.171875 GB / hour
23:00:31 * nsh ponders
23:04:37 <Arnia> Sorry, spent the day fucking around with R trying to get meaningful stats from the data I have
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23:06:21 <Arnia> So far, the NARS-based tagger has a mean recall roughly twice as high as simple lexical search and a precision about a fortieth as good.
23:06:26 * Arnia sighs
23:06:35 <Arnia> Talk up the recall, and excuse the precision :p
23:07:24 <zachb> Argh
23:07:33 <zachb> Getting close, though>
23:07:35 <zachb> *?
23:07:40 <Arnia> I know *why* the precision is so low
23:08:07 <Arnia> It is because of the experimental method; basically, NARS returns anything which might be remotely relevant
23:09:10 <Arnia> Now, the way precision and recall are calculated means that NARS (from the perspective of crisp sets) over returns. I need to make it fuzzy again
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23:09:17 <Arnia> Actually, I might try that now
23:09:32 <Arnia> Give me ten minutes :p
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