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00:24:04 *** KragenSitaker changed the topic to: "Eric Tiedemann (est, e7est) was found dead Sunday night, probably of suicide. || OoOh! All of Morbus' columns for the print-rag MacTech have been made available: http://www.mactech.com/articles/mt_indices/H_Authors.html (Hemenway, Kevin)"
00:24:46 <KragenSitaker> probably everyone who cares knows already.
00:33:09 <nslater> who is eric tiedemann?
00:33:13 <nslater> .wik eric tiedemann
00:33:15 <phenny> "ConJosé was the 60th World Science Fiction Convention, held in San José, California on August 29-September 2, 2002." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConJos%C3%A9
00:35:11 <nslater> aah...
00:35:18 <nslater> wow, that's really sad :(
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03:04:34 <jsled> [[[
03:04:35 <jsled> Oh man, this is so cool. A guy has created a circuit that takes in composite video, performs signal processing, and then correctly “hits” buttons on the guitar hero controller based upon what’s on the screen.
03:04:44 <jsled> ]]] - http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=244
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03:14:24 <Arnia> Cool?
03:17:25 <jsled> a game-playing circuit? Based on analog video processing? Cool in my book.
03:17:42 * xover concurs…
03:17:53 * Arnia just notices the topic
03:18:03 <Arnia> Shit...
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03:27:30 <jsled> indeed.
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04:08:01 <xover> .title http://www.radarmagazine.com/from-the-magazine/2008/04/letter_to_charles_manson_richard_ramirez_ted_kacyinski_bill.php
04:08:02 <phenny> xover: From The Magazine : Radar Online : What better mentor for a 10-year-old than Charles Manson? Little Billy seeks life advice, and America's most notorious killers are happy to oblige
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04:17:21 <Monty> yo jin!
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06:56:30 <cre8radix> heya
06:56:33 <thelsdj> wanger jibble
06:56:47 <cre8radix> thelsdj
06:56:51 <thelsdj> yo
06:57:10 <cre8radix> yoyoyo
06:57:46 <cre8radix> what time is it over at your place?
06:58:05 <cre8radix> .t
06:58:05 <phenny> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:32:41 GMT
06:58:06 <thelsdj> 00:32, doing some database work late
06:58:12 <thelsdj> .t thelsdj
06:58:13 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'thelsdj' timezone.
06:58:13 <cre8radix> ah
06:58:19 <thelsdj> aw i need to get added again
06:58:21 <thelsdj> .t sbp
06:58:22 <phenny> thelsdj: Sorry, I don't know about the 'sbp' timezone.
06:58:23 <cre8radix> where you at?
06:58:27 <thelsdj> oh maybe that feature is gone
06:58:30 <thelsdj> .t PST
06:58:30 <Monty> since <insert year or do tsocks is locked away in the 'exclusive' coffee
06:58:30 <phenny> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:33:06 PST
06:58:36 <thelsdj> er
06:58:37 <thelsdj> .t PDT
06:58:37 <phenny> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:33:14 PDT
06:58:40 <thelsdj> there we go
06:58:56 <thelsdj> .t US/Pacific
06:58:56 <phenny> Tue Apr 29 00:33:32 PDT 2008
06:59:06 <thelsdj> .yi
06:59:06 <phenny> Not yet...
06:59:08 <thelsdj> :(
06:59:29 <cre8radix> what's .yi?
06:59:48 <thelsdj> .g tavtime
06:59:49 <phenny> thelsdj: http://wiki.espians.com/Tavtime
07:00:15 <cre8radix> thelsdj: where do you live?
07:00:56 <cre8radix> .tock
07:00:56 <phenny> "Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:35:32 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
07:01:04 <thelsdj> north east bay area california
07:01:51 <thelsdj> .g benicia
07:01:51 <phenny> thelsdj: http://www.ci.benicia.ca.us/
07:07:32 <cre8radix> so... that's near oakland?
07:07:37 <cre8radix> looks nice
07:07:42 <sbp> yo
07:07:42 <phenny> sbp: 28 Apr 22:34Z <_bjoern> tell sbp http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2540350420070925
07:07:43 <Monty> Any tool that punctuation-mark a n00b to take your area?
07:07:44 <phenny> sbp: 28 Apr 22:36Z <_bjoern> tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7370903.stm
07:08:05 <cre8radix> hey sbp
07:08:06 <sbp> what!
07:08:12 * sbp is horrified at the topic
07:08:24 <sbp> hi cre8radix
07:11:09 <sbp> sigh, he was asking about utf-8b only earlier this month
07:14:37 <sbp> spam I just got:
07:14:38 <sbp> [[[
07:14:51 <sbp> Subject: Subject for default E-Mails goes here. EDIT ME!
07:14:57 <sbp> Dear Sir or Madam,
07:14:57 <sbp> please edit this email text now useless you want to send crap to your customers.
07:14:57 <sbp> With Best Regards
07:14:57 <sbp> <Your name Here>
07:14:58 <sbp> ]]]
07:15:42 <sbp> man, I'm so sad about est
07:16:10 <cre8radix> it hurts when that happens
07:16:11 <sbp> every time I chatted with him he seemed an extraordinarily nice guy, and he had his e7 on the rise and ting
07:16:28 <sbp> shame nobody was able to prevent it, if it was a suicide
07:17:01 <sbp> course, we dunno the circumstances
07:17:11 <sbp> I should email Kragen my condolences
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07:18:56 <cre8radix> was he a friend of his?
07:24:01 <thelsdj> thats strange, i think this may be the first time i've ever seen Morbus' real name, or atleast noticed it
07:24:03 <sbp> sent. yeah, I think so
07:24:32 <sbp> thelsdj: yeah, he only ever uses it on print kind of things
07:24:37 <sbp> it was on Spidering Hacks too
07:25:06 <thelsdj> ya i probably read the author of spidering hacks at some point but never made connection
07:26:41 <thelsdj> i hate how ugly converting a bitmask from the database into an enum looks in C#:
07:27:01 <thelsdj> (someEnumType)Convert.ToInt32(dataRow["column"])
07:27:32 <thelsdj> actually hrm
07:27:45 <thelsdj> i wonder if i can cast straight from the column value to the enum
07:27:59 <thelsdj> but i'd have to test that theory
07:28:20 <thelsdj> might be safer and be a bit more explicit to leave the convert to int first
07:28:24 <thelsdj> as thats what its stored as in the db
07:32:22 <cre8radix> phenny: tell Morbus congrats!
07:32:22 <phenny> cre8radix: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
07:38:51 <cre8radix> oops
07:38:52 <cre8radix> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/reiser-guilty-o.html
07:39:00 <sbp> .title
07:39:01 <phenny> sbp: Hans Reiser Guilty of First Degree Murder | Threat Level from Wired.com
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07:47:04 <sbp> yo nsh
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07:54:17 <sbp> “The first naturally occurring superheavy element has been found. An international team of scientists found several nuclei of unbibium in a sample of the naturally occurring heavy metal thorium. Unbibium has an atomic number of 122 and an atomic weight of 292.” - /.
07:54:23 <sbp> .gc Unbibium
07:54:24 <phenny> Unbibium: 7,730
07:54:28 <sbp> .wik Unbibium
07:54:28 <phenny> "Unbibium (pronounced /ənˈbɪbiəm/) is the temporary name of a (purportedly) recently discovered[1]| chemical element in the periodic table that has the temporary symbol Ubb and has the atomic number 122." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbibium
07:55:07 <thelsdj> .gc "atomic number 122"
07:55:08 <phenny> "atomic number 122": 32
07:55:13 <thelsdj> .gc "atomic number of 122"
07:55:14 <phenny> "atomic number of 122": 47
07:55:30 <thelsdj> .gc unbibium -element
07:55:30 <phenny> unbibium -element: 6,310
07:55:44 <thelsdj> .gc unbibium -element -atomic
07:55:44 <phenny> unbibium -element -atomic: 6,280
07:56:33 <thelsdj> .gc unbiunium
07:56:34 <phenny> unbiunium: 7,670
07:56:45 <thelsdj> thats atomic # 121
07:58:16 <sbp> .title http://www.en.rian.ru/russia/20080425/105937070.html
07:58:18 <phenny> sbp: RIA Novosti - Russia - Huge beaver rampages through Russian store "for vodka"
07:58:20 <Monty> Up early out solutions to life, he stops playing
07:59:43 <sbp> Tania Devereux's at it again, standing up for net neutrality
07:59:45 <sbp> [[[
07:59:45 <sbp> According to the text next to Tania’s image, “I will make love with every virgin who defends the Internet.”
07:59:46 <sbp> ]]]
07:59:50 <sbp> - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24299253/
08:00:29 <sbp> hahaha
08:00:31 <sbp> “As I Power’s candidate in the 2007 Belgian general election, Tania offered um … oral sex … as a pun on creating 40,000 jobs.”
08:00:40 <sbp> MSNBC gets sheepish
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08:04:20 <sbp> wow, someone found a use for twitter
08:04:22 <sbp> .title http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/04/25/twitter.buck/index.html
08:04:22 <phenny> sbp: Student 'Twitters' his way out of Egyptian jail - CNN.com
08:17:27 <_bjoern> Who'd have thought we'd find one!
08:17:55 <_bjoern> Yes, it is I, live and in colour!
08:18:21 <_bjoern> BUNT
08:18:35 <Arnia> ...
08:18:43 <Arnia> gran just been rushed back into hospital
08:18:47 <Arnia> blood clot in lung
08:19:31 <Arnia> I'm too tired today to travel... just done an all-nighter... mum doesn't have mobile with her or change for payphone... fuck fuck fuck
08:20:36 <sbp> eek
08:21:35 <thelsdj> hospitals should have inexpensive prepaid cell phones available
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08:21:45 <sbp> I've got to go and give a talk in a bit, but I hope things go well with her, Arnia
08:22:00 * sbp will be wafting supportons
08:22:06 <Arnia> Thanks
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08:25:59 <Monty> it's danieljohnlewis!
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08:33:45 <Arnia> it's Monty!
08:33:48 <Monty> wonder whether this early in Photoshop
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08:52:40 <nsh> :-/
08:53:01 <nsh> .seen est
08:53:01 <phenny> nsh: I last saw est at 2008-04-10 14:43:42 UTC on #swhack
08:59:38 * nsh smiles at http://catb.org/~esr/ecsl/
09:01:32 <nsh> :-/ though
09:03:56 * nsh wonders where the catholic church is keeping this "great whore" i hear so much about
09:04:07 <nsh> they should be moar sharing with that, if you ask me
09:09:33 <nsh> .gs policy by *
09:09:34 <phenny> policy by *: hartley (3), undermining (2), swmchick (2), submitting (2), stealth (2), sheila (2), ron (2), pushan (2), noam chomsky (2), maximising (2)
09:20:20 <realist> .g "policy by stealth"
09:20:21 <phenny> realist: http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/309363
09:31:18 <thelsdj> I guess they don't allow Ericsson or i'd expect to see some with just last name
09:31:42 <nslater> sbp: I watched more Meades last night, boy that guy's surealist humor is funny, and yet the program is so informative.
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09:39:54 <Monty> bah, it's lordi again
09:40:27 <lordi> Monty, behave
09:40:29 <Monty> policy by then, of thing up now, april fools day
09:41:24 <Arnia> In Sorbitol Swhack, April fools you
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11:27:58 <sbp> yo
11:31:45 <sbp> phenny: tell _bjoern http://g.photos.cx/nestz6we4f-iiuyuyh-30.jpg
11:31:45 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
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11:45:09 <_bjoern> hmm ReiserFS...
11:45:09 <phenny> _bjoern: 12:06Z <sbp> tell _bjoern http://g.photos.cx/nestz6we4f-iiuyuyh-30.jpg
11:45:42 <_bjoern> maybe they are stark trek storks and thats how they activate their communicator.
11:45:51 <sbp> hehe
11:46:46 <sbp> current pic: smile for the camera!
11:47:15 <_bjoern> http://pfalzstorch.de/bilder/webcambild_sportplatz_bornheim1.htm
11:48:39 <sbp> “I was hoping I could pound out a peck of pickled pages on pathetic Panther proselytizing, but no, Apple has spurned my deadly Shaolin technique.” - http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.19/19.12/DatabaseMeows/index.html
11:49:04 <sbp> the storklets grow up quickly
11:49:19 <Morbus> heh, heh
11:49:19 <phenny> Morbus: 08:06Z <cre8radix> tell Morbus congrats!
11:49:30 <Morbus> sbp: i'm quite fond of these articles, and rereading them.
11:49:35 <Morbus> i was doing quite well.
11:50:12 <_bjoern> Storkblog headline: "Bald saftige Maikäfer unterwegs!"
11:50:14 <Morbus> all the subheadings ("Mr. Piser"...) tend to be googleable for more fun.
11:50:17 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Bald saftige Maikäfer unterwegs!"?
11:50:20 <phenny> _bjoern: "soon juicy maikaefer on the way!" (de)
11:50:36 <_bjoern> .wik Maikäfer
11:50:37 <phenny> "The cockchafer (or may bug, as it is colloquially called, or sometimes billy witch or spang beetle, particularly in East Anglia) is a European beetle of the genus Melolontha, in the family Scarabaeidae." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockchafer
11:51:25 <Morbus> sbp: for example, the very first question in the homework malignments relates to the first subheading.
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11:53:58 <_bjoern> golive is dead
12:07:59 <sbp> ah! I was wondering about the first question
12:08:32 <sbp> now I gets it
12:08:43 <_bjoern> phenny, "Googles Datenschützer rät: Mehr auf Privatsphäre achten"?
12:08:48 <phenny> _bjoern: "googles data-security commissioner guesses/advises: more on privatsphaere respect" (de)
12:12:59 <sbp> URV
12:13:03 <sbp> oeuvre is pronounced URV
12:13:26 <_bjoern> öwre
12:14:37 <Morbus> sbp: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4738621&page=1
12:14:58 <_bjoern> .gc lolkiller
12:14:59 <phenny> lolkiller: 2,050
12:17:58 <Morbus> _bjoern: is he known as that?
12:18:45 <_bjoern> No, the term just popped when I read the headline.
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12:19:54 <sbp> yikes
12:20:13 <Morbus> http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3207806
12:22:55 <MoiraA_> phenny: tell sbp Moira has been in a bad car accident an
12:22:55 <MoiraA_> d
12:22:55 <MoiraA_> wo;
12:22:55 <phenny> MoiraA_: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
12:22:56 <MoiraA_> will contact soon
12:22:58 <MoiraA_> got home, going t bed
12:23:07 <Morbus> !!
12:23:11 <Morbus> is she alright?
12:23:50 <MoiraA_> well since I'm here, I guess I'll recover
12:24:13 <MoiraA_> didn't want to stay in hospital, I wanted my own family and my own bed
12:24:16 <_bjoern> I didn't know Swhack had mysterious healing powers.
12:25:01 <MoiraA_> but I have to go to my GP tomorrow and get him to examine me and see how long I need to be off work
12:25:16 <MoiraA_> and what drugs I need precribing
12:25:32 <MoiraA_> IO'm not well no - but wanted my own bed
12:25:38 <MoiraA_> which is where I[m going now
12:25:52 <_bjoern> Good night MoiraA_
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12:30:47 <sbp> MoiraA: d'oh! get well soon
12:30:48 <phenny> sbp: 12:57Z <MoiraA_> tell sbp Moira has been in a bad car accident an
12:31:27 <MoiraA> thanks sbp
12:32:27 <nslater> oh wow, I hope you're okay MoiraA
12:33:29 <MoiraA> phone sec
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12:35:55 <MoiraA> back
12:36:00 <MoiraA> thanks nslater
12:36:07 <MoiraA> I really want to go to bed now actually
12:36:12 <nslater> I hope no one else was injured
12:36:15 <MoiraA> I'll catch up with you later
12:36:19 <nslater> okay, sure :)
12:36:34 <MoiraA> no, I drive the car into a wall, did damage another van, but he wasn't hurt
12:36:41 <MoiraA> *rove
12:36:43 <MoiraA> *(drove
12:36:49 <MoiraA> oh ffs drove
12:36:50 <nslater> sheesh... :/
12:37:00 <MoiraA> I need to rest in bed
12:37:08 <MoiraA> sorry but Ill have to go
12:37:09 <nslater> well, sleep well...
12:37:25 <MoiraA> thanks
12:37:29 <MoiraA> even a rest would do
12:37:34 <MoiraA> bye for now
12:43:25 <nsh> .wik Erazure
12:43:26 <phenny> "Magnus Fiennes is a prolific cross-genre composer, record producer and songwriter." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Fiennes
12:43:37 <nsh> .ety prolific
12:43:38 <phenny> "1650, from Fr. prolifique, from M.L. prolificus, from L. proles 'offspring' + root of facere 'to make' (see factitious)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=prolific
12:43:52 <nsh> oh, i forgot that one
12:44:12 * nsh renotes to call people prolific sardonically
12:45:58 <_bjoern> No you don't.
12:46:11 <Arnia> Email from Amazon: "We've noticed that customers who have purchased or rated books by George Lakoff have also purchased Lakeda, Kiss Of Erotica by Johnson. For this reason, you might like to know that Lakeda, Kiss Of Erotica will be released on 6 May 2008. You can pre-order yours for just £6.59 (34% off the RRP) by following the link below."
12:46:21 <Arnia> George Lakoff, porn writer?
12:46:29 <sbp> hehe
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12:47:20 <Arnia> Glad to see their recommendation algorithm is tip top
12:48:21 <nsh> http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff50/xebeche_tzu/theawfultruth.jpg
12:48:39 <nsh> that's the kinda graph that looks like it should be twirling
12:48:54 <nsh> come, ride the wealth tornado!
12:49:00 <nsh> that would be a magnificent simulator ride
12:49:24 <nsh> what happened to those [simulators], anyway? from very brief and prepubescent experience, they were awesome
12:50:01 <nsh> wtf
12:50:06 <nsh> .g "wealth tornado"
12:50:07 <phenny> nsh: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/mar/30/ways-to-wealth-tornado-damage-can-be-tax-for-in/
12:50:08 <nsh> .title
12:50:15 <phenny> nsh: Ways to Wealth: Tornado damage can be tax deductible for homeowners in disaster-declared counties : Columnists : Commercial Appeal
12:51:04 <nsh> Objective: Become wealthy -- Method: Get in the way of a tornado -- Your milage: May vary
12:51:46 * nsh can't stop visualising the wealth tornado
12:52:28 <nsh> time to create a dual-purpose meteorologoeconomic simulator
12:52:35 <nsh> *logico
12:52:55 <nsh> what's that, the weather? yeah, mang, the weather and the economy. you got me, all the fuck at once
13:09:54 <sbp> .gc "wealth tornado"
13:09:55 <phenny> "wealth tornado": 39
13:10:20 <sbp> nsh: you're a long way from Kansas
13:11:14 <nsh> yeah
13:11:19 <nsh> but i'm browsing toast-art
13:11:19 <Arnia> nsh: They still have one at the Science Museum. Awesome fun
13:11:29 <Arnia> Or at least I believe they do
13:11:36 <sbp> I always figured you could do a joint agricultural-economical forecast
13:11:36 <nsh> super cool pancakes
13:11:40 <sbp> just get the bean counters on it
13:11:45 * nsh slept overnight at the science museum
13:11:49 <nsh> underneath a fucking rocket
13:11:49 <Monty> potty mouth!
13:12:04 <nsh> it was possibly one of the highlights of the entire year i was eight
13:12:07 * sbp images lots of little baby rockets being explained to them that nsh is not their daddy
13:12:13 <sbp> “he was just watching”
13:12:32 <nsh> wow, you sure know how to give me confused feelings
13:12:35 <sbp> hehe
13:12:37 * nsh choxelles
13:12:53 <nsh> man, this is crap toast-art
13:12:57 <sbp> I had a great argument with a lady in the science museum once
13:13:07 <sbp> I was in the bookshop with some friends on a school trip
13:13:11 <nsh> New the challenge: find the awesomemost toast-art you can
13:13:17 <nsh> do go on
13:13:25 <sbp> and I dunno how the heck it happened, but I ended up arguing with another shopper, who happened to be a pretty cute mid-twenties lady
13:13:37 <sbp> (this always happened when I was out with friends)
13:13:46 <sbp> so I was arguing about the difference between diction in men and women
13:13:51 <nsh> haha
13:13:59 <nsh> oh man, that's juvenilely classic
13:14:16 <nsh> who made the win?
13:14:16 <sbp> “it's quite clear that men have a certain efficiency of diction to them, in that they're able to express and encapsulate their ideas in a much shorter and more precise fashion than women”
13:14:33 <sbp> and she replies “men are more terse?”
13:14:44 <nsh> (btw, fantastic google screenscape accidental juxtaposition: A blowtorch, a loaf of bread and a knife is all Lennie needs to create his toast art. Plus homelessness and Polish immigrants.)
13:14:44 <sbp> it was great
13:15:06 <nsh> hehe
13:15:29 <nsh> there's not even a "plus" on that page
13:15:29 * Arnia is fascinated by the comments on the Reiser story
13:15:37 <nsh> google is weird sometimes
13:16:08 <Arnia> I do feel a brief tour of the Prosecutor's Fallacy as it applies to the logic underlying criminal trials would be handy
13:16:35 <sbp> .wik Prosecutor's Fallacy
13:16:37 <phenny> "The prosecutor's fallacy is any of several fallacies of statistical reasoning often used in legal arguments." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecutor's_fallacy
13:16:56 * nsh was going to^W^Wtempted to do a write-up on the prosecutor's fallacy a few months back, for a friend campaiging against police dna-sample retention
13:17:09 <nsh> (for non-criminals, and pseudo-criminals)
13:17:33 <nsh> .gcs "pseudocriminal" "pseudo-criminal"
13:17:34 <phenny> "pseudo-criminal" (1,890), "pseudocriminal" (192)
13:17:47 <nsh> .gc paracriminal
13:17:48 <phenny> paracriminal: 153
13:18:23 <nsh> http://www.crookedbrains.net/2008/03/toast-art.html good toast art
13:18:28 <sbp> classic Wikipedia:
13:18:40 <sbp> ‘The significance of this thought experiment can be seen when we substitute "guilty" and "innocent" for "wooden" and "plastic", respectively, and substitute "evidence is observed" for "white".’
13:18:55 <nsh> nice
13:18:58 <sbp> I had to type that closing quote with my nose
13:19:40 <sbp> one hand was busy shovelling nutrition into my nutrition orifice
13:20:21 <sbp> I'm delighted to report that both hands are once again free for typing
13:21:04 <sbp> toast art looks tasty
13:21:08 <nsh> what kinda puppet you got?
13:21:18 <sbp> saywha
13:21:19 <nsh> (assuming you had the other hand in a puppet, which is only reasonable)
13:21:24 <sbp> hehe
13:21:36 <nsh> mang, i need a puppet
13:21:37 <sbp> the other hand was pressing Alt and Shift
13:21:56 <nsh> you need a less complex keyboard layout
13:22:01 <sbp> YES
13:22:03 <nsh> a single quote should not require three keys
13:22:07 <nsh> maybe less unicodewank
13:22:09 <sbp> agreed
13:22:10 <nsh> and more fucking ascii
13:22:13 <sbp> nu
13:22:17 * nsh smiles
13:22:44 * nsh is going to make some toast art and sell it to some chumps
13:22:50 <nsh> USING LASERS
13:22:54 <sbp> make toast art of religious figures
13:22:59 <sbp> always sells well on ebay
13:23:05 <nsh> way head of ya mang
13:23:09 <sbp> :-)
13:23:17 <nsh> i'm going to make PROPHETIC religious toast art
13:23:24 <sbp> note: Daffy Duck is not a religious figure
13:23:44 <nsh> the works are going to prefigure important occurances within religious communities
13:23:50 <sbp> ooh
13:23:52 <sbp> like what?
13:24:00 <nsh> i have no idea until these events happen
13:24:07 <nsh> and i pull out my huge collection of burnt toast
13:24:11 <sbp> that's not very prophetic then, is it?
13:24:19 <sbp> oh, I see
13:24:23 <sbp> so it *is* prophetic
13:24:24 <nsh> aye, you're underestimating the IWANTTOBELIEVE facto
13:24:28 <nsh> *factor
13:24:34 <nsh> retrodictive interpretation is the win
13:25:03 <sbp> so basically, you want to enhance the omniïnterpretational characteristics of your toast art
13:25:17 <nsh> exactleberries
13:25:24 <nsh> ooo
13:25:29 <sbp> how about recreating Rorscach via marmite?
13:25:29 <nsh> terradactylberries
13:25:33 <sbp> ooh
13:25:50 <nsh> they would be a ridiculously fear-inspiring fruit
13:26:08 <nsh> that's also a possibility (re: rorscach)
13:27:56 <nsh> lol
13:28:04 <nsh> amusing flowchart of the day: http://www.illustrationcastle.com/blogimages/panflute-flowchart.gif
13:30:32 <Arnia> Interesting... it seems that many commentators think that the burden of proof is on the defense
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13:30:38 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's tonybaloney867!
13:30:50 <tonybaloney867> Hello Monty :)
13:31:00 <Monty> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28music_service%29 <-- it appears where I[m going without an american republican currently in the twentieth century, when that to them, in which might have one.
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13:38:14 <nslater> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_citFkSNtk
13:38:14 <phenny> nslater: YouTube - Festo AirJelly
13:40:54 <aspect> synaeresis is spelled with one; does diaeresis take one of each?
13:41:46 <nsh> .gs we cannot allow a * gap
13:41:48 <phenny> we cannot allow a * gap: mineshaft (25), wikipedia (9), spaceport (8), mine shaft (4), mine-shaft (2), mindshaft (2), hope (2)
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13:47:21 <jsled> .gs we must not allow a * gap
13:47:22 <phenny> we must not allow a * gap: mineshaft (34), mine shaft (3), witticism (2), paultard (2), diamond shaft (2)
13:48:18 <Arnia> .gs we must * poultry
13:48:19 <phenny> we must * poultry: control the way (3), import (2)
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13:49:23 <nsh> .wik Vitruvian
13:49:24 <phenny> "The Vitruvian Man is a world-renowned drawing with accompanying notes created by Leonardo da Vinci around the year 1487[1]| as recorded in one of his journals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvian
13:49:48 <nsh> you're not telling me anything about the Vitruvianity, wikipedia-article-introduction
13:50:33 <nsh> .wik Vitruvius
13:50:33 <phenny> "Marcus Vitruvius Pollio (born c. 80–70 BC, died after c. 15 BC) was a Roman writer, architect and engineer (possibly praefectus fabrum during military service or praefect architectus armamentarius of the apparitor status group), active in the 1st century BC." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvius
13:50:54 * nsh thought Morbus was Monty for some seconds there
13:50:54 <Monty> there's quite clear a chance :)
13:51:02 <nsh> quiet, foo'
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13:58:08 * nsh contorts his facial muscles in thought
13:58:25 <nsh> remeber those jacob's ladder toys?
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13:58:33 <nslater> oh yeah...
13:58:53 <nslater> .wik tractatus wittgenstein
13:58:54 <nsh> i want one, right the now fuck
13:58:55 <phenny> "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus is the only book-length work published by Austrian philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein in his lifetime." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus
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13:59:43 * nsh wonders if there are extreme jacob's ladders
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13:59:59 <nslater> I have been meaning to read up on deleuze & guattari's concept of rhizome for so many years...
14:00:05 <dumnut> hi
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14:00:31 * nsh faltered on the "is in books you have to buy" stage of that idea a few years ago
14:00:34 <nslater> hello dumnut
14:00:41 <dumnut> hi nslater
14:00:44 <nslater> phenny halp?
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14:01:12 <nsh> i think....
14:01:19 <nslater> therefor... you are!?
14:01:28 <nsh> if you combine the principles of a jacob's ladder with the rubick's cube
14:01:35 <nsh> and some artful manipulation
14:01:42 <nsh> you could make an awesome trick-toy
14:02:51 * nsh contemplates
14:03:24 <dumnut> can you program a rubik's cube program?
14:03:33 <nslater> yes :p
14:04:02 <dumnut> i think there are kids who will play with computer rubik's cube program
14:04:09 <dumnut> put it on your site with page ads
14:04:13 <nslater> thats very tragic
14:05:41 <aspect> .gs "* sniffing politician"
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14:05:42 <phenny> * sniffing politician: No results!
14:05:51 <dumnut> hmm what programs can we write to for our own company that will make us money?
14:05:58 <aspect> .gs "* sniffing"
14:05:59 <phenny> * sniffing: keyboard (2), igmp (2)
14:06:16 <nslater> dumnut: if I knew that, I wouldn't tell you, I'd be doing it my self :D
14:06:27 <dumnut> nslater, i'll fund you.
14:06:50 <nslater> heh
14:07:23 <dumnut> we share ownership 50/50?
14:07:37 <nslater> what do i get out of it?
14:07:52 <dumnut> 50% of equity of our company.
14:08:35 <nsh> nslater, dude, funding is its own end.
14:09:07 <nslater> well, id need to see financial projections and know how much you're prepared to fund before accepting any kind offer :p
14:09:23 <nslater> I would also need some free time, of which I have a great dearth
14:11:01 <dumnut> email me (me@dumnut.com) with your proposal for a program what it is and does and your budget of costs associated to program it as well as your salary requirement for sufficient time for you to program it and i'll evaluate.
14:13:48 <dumnut> gotta go
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14:14:26 <nslater> was that guy serious? i couldnt tell
14:14:41 <sbp> nslater: he's severely disabled
14:14:51 <nslater> in what sense?
14:15:07 <sbp> general psychosis, as far as I can tell
14:15:20 <nslater> oh right, so he probably was being serious :/
14:15:22 <sbp> that is, by his own report. he's a Swhack regular
14:15:35 <nslater> I only spot two entries in google for his name on swhack
14:15:42 <sbp> try "kham" too
14:15:47 <nslater> aha.
14:16:08 <sbp> he's a nice guy, but he has better and worse periods
14:16:22 <sbp> this actually seems fairly positive
14:19:07 <nslater> Arnia: you have made me obsessed with collective nouns by the way, they keep cropping up in my thought processes :)
14:20:22 <nslater> Arnia: as in, I think I prefer them to singular and plural nouns for nomenclature when talking about groups of things - I only wonder how many things have a collective noun version
14:21:26 <nslater> compare "/photo/2008/01/sunset" "/photos/2008/01/sunset" and "/gallery/2008/01/sunset"
14:22:28 <Arnia> Some collective nouns are highly amusing
14:22:34 <nslater> example?
14:22:40 <Arnia> And they offer a lot of opportunity for humour
14:23:17 <Arnia> Such as /murder/crow1
14:23:43 <Arnia> Or /flange/badger2
14:23:49 <nslater> .title http://www.rinkworks.com/words/collective.shtml
14:23:49 <phenny> nslater: Fun With Words: Collective Nouns
14:24:00 <nslater> /shrewdness/ape1
14:24:27 <nslater> /movement/mole1
14:24:29 <nslater> heh
14:24:40 <nslater> wtf... /cartload/monkey1
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14:25:49 <Arnia> Hm... I'm very tempted to title the paper I'm writing for the BCS Visions conference, "Beyond the Panopticon: Towards a Localist Semantics for the Web"
14:26:15 <nslater> "a Localist Semantics" - is that the right tense?
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14:28:42 <Arnia> Tense isn't the right word. Think you mean inflection
14:28:45 <Arnia> But yes, it is
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14:28:54 <Arnia> And now my mum is in hospital
14:29:01 <Arnia> wow, this is turning into a great day
14:29:03 <kpreid> Arnia: That title is vaguely alarming and/or babbly
14:29:07 <kpreid> Arnia: But I'm probably not its audience
14:30:17 <Arnia> kpreid: it is meant to be 'visionary' work as in attempts to see into the long-range future of computer science
14:30:25 <Arnia> kpreid: (the conference as a whole I mean)
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14:30:46 <kpreid> Arnia: Then I'm agin' it
14:31:06 <kpreid> Arnia: I think I see what you mean by it, but the choice of words is odd and thereby distracting
14:31:28 <kpreid> I think replacing either "ist" or "Panopticon" would help
14:31:48 <kpreid> maybe use "locality" instead?
14:32:00 <kpreid> (not literal replacement, rephrase to fit)
14:32:14 <Arnia> And I do think of current approaches to the Web, and the Semantic Web in particular, are very panopticon in their approach. The paper is on the distinction between the two styles of distributed semantics; one which requires total oversight of all knowledge (at least in principle) and the other localist (in the physical theory sense) where all you need to know is the stuff that connects to you now
14:32:25 <nslater> .gd panopticon
14:32:25 <phenny> panopticon: Panopticon is a theoretical concept from Michel Foucault’s theory of knowledge and power. The panopticon was an architectural design for a ...
14:32:31 <nslater> .wik panopticon
14:32:32 <phenny> "The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in 1785." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
14:32:38 <nslater> .w panopticon
14:32:42 <nslater> .wtf panopticon
14:33:23 <kpreid> Arnia: Maybe it's okay
14:34:41 <Arnia> I'll think
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14:34:54 <nslater> Arnia: what's your sense of the word?
14:35:14 <Arnia> Panopticon? Benthem's prison design, and its purpose
14:35:17 <nslater> or rather, what do you mean by it?
14:35:23 <nslater> w/r semweb
14:36:08 <Arnia> As in, having a position of total oversight. That the purpose of knowledge representation is to eliminate the messiness of disagreement so that we can all live in peace and harmony (as long as we bow to the conventions of others)
14:36:30 <Arnia> Mind you, I'm planning an essay at the moment called "The Sex Life of Information", so maybe I'm in a whimsy phase.
14:36:36 <nslater> heh
14:38:26 <kpreid> Arnia: My view, at least, of semweb-as-currently-promulgated, does not require a position of total oversight...since the vocabularies are not centrally managed. I don't disagree that it copes poorly with partial disagreement, though.
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14:40:10 <nslater> kpreid: I think Arnia means total oversight w/r to truth representation, or something
14:40:22 * nslater shrugs and pretends to understand
14:42:56 <Arnia> kpreid: as nslater said. I'm really attacking the idea that 'true' knowledge is somehow more desirable, and that it gives a harmonious total perspective which will eliminate all disagreement and war and strife (c.f. neo-Leibnizian)
14:43:12 <nslater> oh wow, i got something half right :p
14:47:50 <Arnia> From my perspective, it is conflict which leads to creativity and understanding. As you all have heard me drone on about, I believe that such conflict in experience and (thence) beliefs is a fundamental part of human knowledge. So, I think it is a simplification too far and possibly even a harmful one to attempt to eliminate uncertainty
14:48:23 <Arnia> Ok. How to get back down to Bucks and whether I actually can
14:48:33 * Arnia feels like a yo yo right now
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15:04:27 <Morbus> http://www.gamegrene.com/node/886
15:12:42 <MoiraA> help!
15:12:48 <nslater> MoiraA: whats up?
15:12:54 <MoiraA> got woken up by a phone call
15:13:05 <nslater> oh?
15:13:09 <MoiraA> from the police - they are coming round to see me!
15:13:15 <MoiraA> about yesterday's accident
15:13:17 <nslater> oh dear, just routine I presume
15:13:20 <MoiraA> yeah
15:13:44 <MoiraA> they said if I wasn't well enough they would come later,but Id rather get it over with
15:18:28 <Morbus> phenny, tell Morbus whee
15:18:29 <phenny> You can tell yourself that.
15:18:35 <Morbus> dammit.
15:18:56 <Morbus> phenny, remind me in 3 seconds something.
15:19:02 <nslater> o_O
15:19:05 <Morbus> oh, you're useless.
15:19:14 <nslater> Monty, remind me in 1 minute to tell plum to flame Monty
15:19:15 <Monty> nslater: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Tue Apr 29 16:56:58 BST 2008
15:19:18 <plum> Monty, how many fucking idiots on the internet will fail discussing it? you fail at life.
15:19:19 <Monty> screw you
15:20:23 <Monty> nslater: You asked me to remind you to tell plum to flame Monty
15:20:28 <plum> Monty, shut the fuck up, starts of being half a shitty film just to fool you. and that, my friend, is why no one likes you.
15:20:29 <Monty> screw you
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15:22:05 <nslater> does anyone know if the encoding attribute should be set on the XML PI after canonicalisation?
15:23:23 <nslater> hmm...
15:23:34 <nslater> the entire XML declaration should be omited, how odd
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15:23:41 <Monty> hi jewel, how ya doing?
15:28:26 <kpreid> .cp ˜
15:28:27 <phenny> kpreid: .cp has been replaced by .u
15:28:30 <kpreid> .u ˜
15:28:31 <phenny> U+02DC SMALL TILDE (˜)
15:29:04 <kpreid> .u ˆ
15:29:04 <phenny> U+02C6 MODIFIER LETTER CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT (ˆ)
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15:29:44 <_bjoern> .gc unicode porn
15:29:44 <phenny> unicode porn: 160,000
15:29:47 <Arnia> nslater: at some point in the near future I may need to steal some brain time from you
15:30:15 <nslater> Arnia: okay sure, thought the mind boggles what you could possibly want from _my_ brain ;)
15:30:30 <_bjoern> agreed
15:30:35 <nsh> (clue: it's not selfeffacement)
15:30:40 * nslater thinks he might have an idea...
15:30:58 <Arnia> nslater: you have skills, knowledge and abilities which I covert
15:31:05 <nslater> into profits?
15:31:14 <nsh> covert into afghanistan
15:31:17 <nslater> wow
15:31:32 * Arnia gives up on talking
15:31:37 <Arnia> Today really isn't a good day :p
15:31:42 <Arnia> (when is?)
15:31:52 <nsh> thursdays
15:32:00 <nsh> but only about 40% of the time
15:32:04 <_bjoern> .gc a good day is *
15:32:05 <phenny> a good day is *: 773,000
15:32:14 <_bjoern> .gs a good day is *
15:32:15 <phenny> a good day is *: superb (2), sufficient (2), slightly (2), shrewd (2), proudly (2)
15:32:22 <_bjoern> .gs * is a good day
15:32:23 <phenny> * is a good day: today (8), this (2), everydeay (2), everyday (2), ajmaq (2)
15:32:31 <nslater> nsh: where you calling me immodest btw @:<}{
15:32:37 <Arnia> I could never handle thursdays
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15:32:39 <_bjoern> only intoxicated results it seems
15:32:57 <nsh> nslater, no, i was implying that arnia doesn't need you to pretend to be
15:32:59 <Arnia> What with the planet being blown up, and people not being able to make a perfectly simple cup of tea
15:33:06 * nsh smiles
15:33:07 <_bjoern> I am the least immodest of them all.
15:33:27 <Arnia> _bjoern: but you have the Störchen on your side
15:33:48 <nslater> nsh: hmm, i wasnt pretending... it's usually _me_ bugging arnia about things not the other way around :)
15:34:09 <Arnia> _bjoern: that excuses you of everything less than original sin (which is patented, and solely distributed by YHVH plc.)
15:34:22 <_bjoern> Oh yes the Störche. But they don't contribute to my lack of immodesty, I am the sole cause.
15:34:32 <nsh> nslater, which is why it was a witty and timely jab, not a factual statement in need of lengthy ellaboration :-)
15:34:47 <nslater> nsh: well i am personally offended and filled with internets rage
15:34:55 <Arnia> nslater: yes you can probably guess, which is why I asked.
15:35:01 * nslater smiles
15:35:06 * nsh dons his the breastplate of noes and the helmet of oh
15:35:07 <_bjoern> .wik flamewar
15:35:07 <phenny> "A flamewar is a prolonged exchange of deliberately hostile messages over the Internet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamewar
15:35:13 <nslater> nsh: :p
15:35:23 <_bjoern> "Flamewar is a very rare\emdash female\emdash Transformers action figure. "
15:35:30 <Arnia> E_NOT_ENOUGH_KABBALISTS
15:35:45 * Arnia throws some soph at nslater
15:36:54 <nsh> what's the noun of the process by which one gains a pharmacological tolerance?
15:38:19 <Morbus> sbp: oh, hey, ping.
15:39:42 * nslater deflects the soph onto plum's face
15:39:45 <plum> be less in your face, control in the face?
15:40:06 * nslater gets all in plum's face
15:40:13 <plum> all of the above we a plum lie to get your guard down, in that a piece of data gets shared between all interested updated as agents join and leave the community.
15:42:02 <nsh> .c 450F in C
15:42:02 <phenny> 450 degrees Fahrenheit = 232.222222 degrees Celsius
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15:48:58 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp i got my x360a script running again, with downthemall (firefox extension)
15:48:58 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
15:57:12 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp http://www.disobey.com/detergent/lists/x360a.html
15:57:12 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
15:58:01 <nslater> .yi
15:58:01 <phenny> Not yet...
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16:02:41 <_bjoern> .weather edfm
16:02:42 <phenny> Clear ☼, 17℃, 1004mb, Gentle breeze 13km/h (7kt) (↑) - EDFM 18:20, 1620Z
16:02:46 <_bjoern> .weather Bornheim
16:02:48 <phenny> Clear ☼, 15℃, 1002mb, Moderate breeze 20km/h (11kt) (↑) - EDDK 18:20, 1620Z
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17:12:04 <nslater> does anyone know the uri of the w3c html head profile with things like next,prev,home etc - google is drawing blanks
17:12:39 <_bjoern> they are built-in?
17:12:50 <nslater> no, i dont think so, you have to use a @profile
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17:13:06 * nslater shrugs
17:13:14 <nslater> just trying to find the URI that lists them all
17:13:44 <_bjoern> the w3c does not like such lists
17:14:37 <_bjoern> the Atom link rels have a IANA registry fwiw
17:14:51 <_bjoern> and you can always check the "WHATWG" Wiki.
17:15:02 <nslater> I have definately seen such a list on a w3 page...
17:15:04 <nslater> ... I have found http://www.w3.org/2005/10/profile
17:15:08 <nslater> but it's not the right one
17:16:24 <nslater> hmm, they may be baked into html4, like you said
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17:18:12 <nslater> http://www.w3.org/TR/relations.html ??
17:18:39 <_bjoern> .head
17:18:39 <phenny> _bjoern: 200, text/html, iso-8859-1, 1997-04-03 15:50:00 UTC, 19592 bytes
17:19:31 <nslater> this seems to old...
17:19:56 <_bjoern> .g link:http://www.w3.org/TR/relations.html
17:19:57 <phenny> _bjoern: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/1997Jul/0124.html
17:20:22 <nslater> one of the first thing's it says is not to use rel=home, which is widely used and accepted
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17:22:51 <cre8radix> re
17:23:11 <nslater> what does re mean? as in, I know it means "im back" but why?
17:23:29 <cre8radix> return
17:23:33 <nslater> ah
17:23:34 <cre8radix> or rehab
17:23:41 <cre8radix> choose
17:23:44 <cre8radix> :D
17:24:21 * cre8radix listens to james brown - superbad
17:24:34 <cre8radix> nslater: i salute you
17:24:38 <cre8radix> o7
17:24:40 <nslater> why?
17:24:52 <cre8radix> 4 being spunky
17:24:56 <nslater> win
17:26:04 <cre8radix> 'tis a winwin sit
17:28:13 <cre8radix> nslater: have you ever visited the c-base?
17:28:19 <cre8radix> #c-base
17:28:23 <TedThibodeauJr> "re" has long been explained as short for "re-hi", meaning "hello, again"
17:28:47 <cre8radix> cre8radix
17:28:47 <cre8radix> : re:hi
17:29:19 <_bjoern> re-joined
17:30:13 <cre8radix> re:bound
17:30:21 <_bjoern> re:ctum
17:30:31 <TedThibodeauJr> it may depend on how long one's been IRC-or-similar chatting...
17:30:36 <nslater> .gc rectal porn
17:30:38 <phenny> rectal porn: 831,000
17:30:46 <_bjoern> .gc recreational rectal porn
17:30:47 <phenny> recreational rectal porn: 116,000
17:30:57 <nslater> .gc forced recreational rectal porn
17:30:58 <phenny> forced recreational rectal porn: 77,200
17:31:24 <_bjoern> .gc forced rectified recreational rectal porn
17:31:25 <phenny> forced rectified recreational rectal porn: 869
17:31:50 <cre8radix> :D
17:32:00 <cre8radix> _bjoern: O_O
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17:32:06 <cre8radix> lol
17:32:08 <cre8radix> idick
17:32:13 <sbp> ooh, ooh
17:32:13 <phenny> sbp: 16:23Z <Morbus> tell sbp i got my x360a script running again, with downthemall (firefox extension)
17:32:14 <sbp> me play
17:32:15 <phenny> sbp: 16:32Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://www.disobey.com/detergent/lists/x360a.html
17:32:30 <nslater> .gc forced rectified recreational rectal incest porn
17:32:31 <phenny> forced rectified recreational rectal incest porn: 242
17:32:46 <nslater> oh wait
17:32:48 <nslater> ... i ruined it
17:32:50 <nslater> what was i thinking
17:32:55 <sbp> .gc exceptionalised forced rectified recreational rectal incest porn
17:32:56 <phenny> exceptionalised forced rectified recreational rectal incest porn: 0
17:33:01 <nslater> instafail
17:33:05 <nslater> lets start over with sbp
17:33:19 <sbp> whoofail
17:33:19 <_bjoern> You know I thought we'd all add re-words.
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17:33:25 <nslater> yeah, i failed
17:33:25 <sbp> hmm, thinking
17:33:26 <_bjoern> yes my thoughts exactly.
17:33:31 <sbp> lolfail
17:33:37 <sbp> alright. should we use a prefix?
17:33:38 <LOLdemort> OMG LOL
17:33:42 <sbp> I'll go for un-
17:33:45 <LOLdemort> i think soes
17:33:47 <sbp> .gc unforgivable porn
17:33:47 <phenny> unforgivable porn: 80,300
17:33:57 <LOLdemort> .gc unforgivable unforgetting porn
17:33:58 <phenny> unforgivable unforgetting porn: 6
17:33:58 <_bjoern> .gc unimaginably unforgivable porn
17:34:01 <phenny> unimaginably unforgivable porn: 884
17:34:03 <sbp> man, so much lagz
17:34:13 <LOLdemort> ... so what now?
17:34:15 <sbp> omg _bjoern is always after me
17:34:18 <_bjoern> I'm after sbp, what's unclear about that.
17:34:22 <sbp> by convention
17:34:22 <LOLdemort> sry, broke the rulz
17:34:26 <sbp> hehe
17:34:32 <LOLdemort> okays
17:34:40 <LOLdemort> .gc unimaginably unforgetting unforgivable porn
17:34:42 <phenny> unimaginably unforgetting unforgivable porn: 0
17:34:45 <_bjoern> pwnd
17:34:45 <LOLdemort> omg fail
17:34:56 <sbp> muahaha
17:35:01 <sbp> alright, I moved
17:35:05 <sbp> should have better connectivity now
17:35:35 <sbp> hmm. I will go for dis- this time
17:35:39 <sbp> .gc discovery porn
17:35:39 <phenny> discovery porn: 493,000
17:35:43 <LOLdemort> was gonna suggest "an"
17:35:50 <sbp> too lates
17:35:54 <LOLdemort> poop
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17:35:57 <_bjoern> .gc disorienting discovery porn
17:35:58 <phenny> disorienting discovery porn: 7,080
17:36:08 <LOLdemort> .gc disorienting discombobulated discovery porn
17:36:08 <phenny> disorienting discombobulated discovery porn: 255
17:36:17 <sbp> .gc distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn
17:36:18 <phenny> distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn: 186
17:36:49 <_bjoern> .gc disgruntled distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn
17:36:50 <phenny> disgruntled distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn: 169
17:36:56 <_bjoern> I typoed dosgruntled at first
17:37:00 <sbp> hehe
17:37:19 <LOLdemort> .gc discommunicated disgruntled distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn
17:37:19 <phenny> discommunicated disgruntled distended disorienting discombobulated discovery porn: 0
17:37:23 <LOLdemort> omg fail
17:37:31 <sbp> ufailsololsatu
17:37:39 <LOLdemort> lets try "an" nao
17:37:40 <_bjoern> pwn²
17:37:47 <sbp> u first then
17:37:55 <LOLdemort> .gc anal porn
17:37:56 <phenny> anal porn: 8,720,000
17:38:02 <_bjoern> sbp
17:38:06 <sbp> .gc anal animalistic .gc anal porn
17:38:06 <phenny> anal animalistic .gc anal porn: 366,000
17:38:07 <sbp> er...
17:38:09 <sbp> FAIL
17:38:09 <LOLdemort> wat
17:38:13 <sbp> .gc anal animalistic porn
17:38:17 <phenny> anal animalistic porn: 28,000
17:38:20 <_bjoern> .gc anal animalistic anti porn
17:38:20 <phenny> anal animalistic anti porn: 865
17:38:35 <LOLdemort> is anti a word? hmmmm
17:38:43 <TedThibodeauJr> .gc anal animalistic ant porn
17:38:44 <phenny> anal animalistic ant porn: 219,000
17:38:48 <LOLdemort> wat!?
17:38:51 <LOLdemort> WAT!?
17:38:54 <sbp> VIOLENCé
17:38:59 <_bjoern> no bad move
17:39:02 <TedThibodeauJr> the google, she is brokeded
17:39:05 <sbp> oh yes
17:39:10 <LOLdemort> what do i do now?
17:39:19 <sbp> use _bjoern's move
17:39:26 <sbp> unless Ted wants to play properly
17:39:27 <_bjoern> TedThibodeauJr, you didn't include anti
17:39:35 <LOLdemort> SO MUCH FAIL
17:39:48 <TedThibodeauJr> but there was a question of whether anti was a word
17:39:56 <LOLdemort> I am going to ignore Ted's input
17:39:57 <TedThibodeauJr> .gc anal animalistic ant anti porn
17:39:57 <LOLdemort> .gc anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:39:57 <phenny> anal animalistic ant anti porn: 114,000
17:39:58 <phenny> anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 282,000
17:40:13 <sbp> .gc anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:40:14 <phenny> anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 672
17:40:26 <_bjoern> .gc anxious anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:40:27 <phenny> anxious anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 305
17:40:37 <LOLdemort> .gc anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:40:37 <phenny> anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 199
17:40:48 <sbp> .gc antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:40:48 <phenny> antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 120
17:41:04 <_bjoern> .gc antromorphic antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:41:05 <phenny> antromorphic antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 0
17:41:10 <sbp> MISSPELL
17:41:13 <LOLdemort> FAIL!
17:41:20 <LOLdemort> do i continue!?!?
17:41:41 <_bjoern> .gc antromorphic
17:41:42 <phenny> antromorphic: 851
17:41:43 <_bjoern> nu
17:41:43 <sbp> it is unclear
17:41:47 <LOLdemort> nu
17:41:50 <sbp> nu
17:41:54 <_bjoern> i
17:41:58 <sbp> u
17:42:01 <_bjoern> SURPRISE MOVE I WIN
17:42:04 <LOLdemort> .yi
17:42:04 <phenny> Not yet...
17:42:07 <LOLdemort> ugh
17:42:14 <sbp> a watched phenny never yis
17:42:19 <LOLdemort> less than 10 avis
17:42:27 <sbp> chuckle, what?
17:42:34 <_bjoern> .wik avis
17:42:35 <phenny> "Andover Village Improvement Society, the oldest conservation society in the eastern United States" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avis
17:42:41 <LOLdemort> .g tavtime
17:42:41 <phenny> LOLdemort: http://wiki.espians.com/Tavtime
17:42:55 <LOLdemort> LESS THAN 10 AVIS
17:43:06 <sbp> lol, what?
17:43:07 <Arnia> .yi
17:43:07 <phenny> Not yet...
17:43:10 <LOLdemort> omh
17:43:12 <LOLdemort> omg
17:43:13 * Arnia wants to partai
17:43:14 <_bjoern> "Avis, a Harry Potter spell"
17:43:16 <sbp> (= you're actually tracking it?)
17:43:21 <LOLdemort> there are less than 10 avi-s until yi
17:43:39 <_bjoern> "Avis, plural of the video file format AVI"
17:43:51 <LOLdemort> sbi, I have a tavtime watch, jeez
17:43:52 <sbp> 10 avis is ages
17:43:54 <LOLdemort> sbp
17:43:55 <sbp> heh
17:44:12 <sbp> .c (20 * 18 * 10) minutes in hours
17:44:12 <phenny> (20 * 18 * 10) * minutes = 60 hours
17:44:15 <Arnia> Now there is a piece of cool stash
17:44:21 <LOLdemort> i also, may or may not, have very recently had a similar convo with tav who told me it was less than 10 avis :p
17:44:28 <sbp> a piece of cool stash? what?
17:44:32 <LOLdemort> lol
17:44:34 <sbp> aha
17:44:53 <sbp> <nslater> you should write plexnet in bash ;)
17:44:54 <LOLdemort> tav, does, in fact, have a tavtime watch, he showeded it to me
17:45:16 <LOLdemort> wait, what? how did you get that?
17:45:16 <sbp> don't tempt him, for goodness' sake
17:45:20 <LOLdemort> that was sekrets!
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17:45:48 <sbp> hehe
17:46:04 <nslater> that LOLdemort fella is a weird one eh?
17:46:15 <Arnia> Compared to whom, exactly?
17:46:15 <sbp> he ate too many lolbeans
17:46:16 <_bjoern> nu
17:46:31 <_bjoern> don't blame him, he's just a demo product.
17:46:35 <Arnia> lojbanbeans
17:46:54 <Arnia> A hellish mix of Lojban and Java
17:46:59 <sbp> yikes
17:47:05 <nslater> .gc lolbeans
17:47:05 <phenny> lolbeans: 443
17:47:09 <sbp> might have to delete that from the logs
17:47:11 <nslater> .g lolbeans
17:47:12 <phenny> nslater: http://www.finalbattleground.com/clan/lolbeans/
17:47:12 <Arnia> And Heinz
17:47:14 <sbp> in case anybody sees it and tries it
17:47:17 <nslater> hehe
17:47:22 <sbp> some ideas are just too dangerous for mankind
17:47:23 <nslater> "We are called LoLbeaNz - we are the most epic LoL gamerz ever!"
17:47:31 <_bjoern> .gc anthromorphic antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn
17:47:32 <phenny> anthromorphic antipodean anxious anteater anemone anal animalistic anti antiquated porn: 108
17:47:34 <Arnia> Hm... this is cool: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell_in_web_browser
17:48:16 <nslater> sbp, Arnia: can you help pls? whats the default (?) HTML rel values available?
17:48:21 <nslater> google is not helping me
17:48:25 <sbp> HTML 4.01?
17:48:28 <nslater> yeah
17:48:29 <Arnia> Stylesheet
17:48:29 <_bjoern> OMG if this is to continue we'll eventually let Emacs run in the browser.
17:48:35 <nslater> I _know_ I have seen this on w3.org
17:48:48 <nslater> _bjoern: emacs _is_ a browser, sheesh
17:48:49 <Arnia> Alternate Stylesheet (ugh, I hate the word 'alternate' being misused)
17:49:00 <_bjoern> perhaps you mean roles not link rels
17:49:06 <nslater> no no, rels
17:49:11 <sbp> nslater: see http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#type-links
17:49:17 <nslater> rel="previous", rel="next", rel="home"
17:49:23 <_bjoern> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/ perhaps?
17:49:27 <nslater> sbp: fantastic!!!
17:49:35 <sbp> alternate, stylesheet, start, next, prev, contents, index, glossary, copyright, chapter, section, subsection, appendix, help, bookmark
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17:49:36 <_bjoern> oh it even has next and stuff
17:49:40 <nslater> sbp: how did you do that so fast, that was the _exact_ document I was thinking off
17:49:51 <sbp> because I've had to look at it a million times too
17:50:00 <Arnia> nslater: sbp is really a bot running on google's cluster
17:50:07 <nslater> woaaah, intenseorama
17:50:15 <Arnia> Like I'm a bot running on a poor man's brain
17:50:55 <_bjoern> you know you brought up http://www.w3.org/2005/10/profile earlier, which links to http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel which links directly to http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#type-links ...
17:51:59 <nslater> so it does, amongst hundreds of other links though :)
17:52:37 <nslater> still...
17:52:42 <_bjoern> it's the #2 and #1 respectively...
17:53:01 * Arnia looks balefully at Monty
17:53:01 <Monty> imagemagick probably come up your msg
17:53:12 <sbp> ooh, come all up your msh
17:53:14 <sbp> er, msg
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17:54:09 <nslater> come all up your nsh
17:54:15 <sbp> nu
17:54:49 <mahound> plum, hit on monty
17:54:51 <Monty> I reckon fireman + beard = beta-tested scorn.
17:54:52 <plum> monty, or as xover foot fetishes etc, now that is a plum! does that turn you on?
17:54:53 <Monty> What are your feelings now ?
17:55:00 <nslater> heh
17:55:00 <sbp> mekano-pip: hit on Monty
17:55:01 <mekano-pip> Monty: CALL ME PSYCHO BITCH, BUT THATZ NICE BUTT - YOUZ SELLIN TIMESHARZ? KTHXBYE!
17:55:01 <Monty> Lets discuss further why your dear .
17:55:03 <Monty> morning!
17:55:15 <sbp> .seen darobin
17:55:15 <phenny> sbp: I last saw darobin at 2008-04-12 14:10:06 UTC on #swhack
17:55:18 <sbp> .seen perigrin
17:55:18 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen perigrin around.
17:55:24 <sbp> seen perigrin
17:55:25 <Monty> I have not seen "perigrin" say or do anything during my arduous lifetime on this IRC server.
17:55:27 <sbp> FINE
17:55:29 <nslater> plum: xover foot fetish?
17:55:35 <plum> xover's ipod is gilded with the caps lock fetish i see, oh i am of course reading the logs in xovers irc client right now.
17:55:56 <_bjoern> plum pwnd xover's box
17:56:02 <plum> i built a plum amd64 box, i'm stuck in a rut working a day job and phenny might want to get some free publicity out of my box office hit.
17:56:22 <Arnia> plum: what hit is that?
17:56:25 <plum> why would you hit me, they just hit the market at the right time.
17:56:39 <sbp> I'd hit dat
17:56:43 <nslater> lol
17:56:46 <Arnia> I vote plum the most lucid member of the channel
17:56:48 <sbp> I tap that
17:56:49 <plum> lol, can i spam the channel inside an hour, lets you do channel anouncements.
17:56:50 <Arnia> And clsn the most Lucida
17:56:54 <sbp> I'd have sex with that tree
17:56:56 <MoiraA> hello
17:57:01 <sbp> hey Moira
17:57:19 * MoiraA imagines sbp having sex with a tree
17:57:19 <sbp> . o O { why do people always turn up when I'm doing xkcd references? }
17:57:23 <nslater> woah, tmi
17:57:39 <MoiraA> I'll catch you later guys:)
17:57:41 <Arnia> nslater: tmi it's friday?
17:57:51 <nslater> sounds like a fun activity
17:57:53 <sbp> MoiraA: http://xkcd.com/398/
17:57:58 <MoiraA> you're clearly busy, which is fine
17:58:00 <Arnia> TMI Fridays; thank Monty it's friday
17:58:02 <Monty> ^^ not really needs cleaning up one result for lolz
17:58:07 <nslater> heh
17:58:20 <sbp> MoiraA: doing xkcd references == talking about sex with trees
17:58:25 <sbp> how's the injury? how were the police?
17:58:31 <MoiraA> ahhahahah
17:58:34 <MoiraA> good one
17:58:40 <MoiraA> oh don't ask :(
17:58:48 <MoiraA> they cautioned me
17:58:48 <Arnia> MoiraA: yeah, he could have suggested he was having sex with plum behind the scenes.
17:58:51 <plum> how's the search for sex with a plum going? or have other suggestions. lmao
17:59:02 <sbp> ouch
17:59:09 <MoiraA> had to make a long statement and was warned I might get taken to court for dangerous driving
17:59:11 <MoiraA> *might*
17:59:23 <sbp> why, did you drive into shit on purpose?
17:59:26 <sbp> doesn't sound very you
17:59:33 <MoiraA> I feel a bit better, but still a bit dazed and shocked
17:59:38 <sbp> mmm, I'll bet
17:59:41 <sbp> how's the car?
17:59:46 <MoiraA> going to the doctor tomorrow
18:00:00 <sbp> huh, doctors' remits are getting bigger and bigger
18:00:04 <sbp> next they'll be tinkering with planes
18:00:15 <jsled> yuck yuck yuck yuck
18:00:29 <sbp> yip yip yip yipy ipyipyiop yipy ipy yip
18:00:35 <_bjoern> nok nok nok
18:00:37 <Arnia> BADGER ATTACK!
18:00:39 <Arnia> DUCK!
18:00:42 <sbp> cow
18:00:46 <Arnia> MOOSE
18:00:49 <_bjoern> ring ring ring
18:00:49 <sbp> nyuk nuyk nuyk nyuk
18:00:53 <_bjoern> boook
18:00:56 <sbp> moooOooo
18:00:57 <mahound> (oh no)
18:00:58 <sbp> book!
18:01:00 <Arnia> gONg
18:01:03 <sbp> book book bookbokkbookbook book
18:01:06 * Arnia screams!
18:01:15 <_bjoern> we should add youtube video links to the swhack faq
18:01:20 <sbp> agreed
18:01:28 <MoiraA> total write off
18:01:29 <sbp> I will do it for you since you're using a neolithic browser
18:01:45 <Arnia> And possibly the telephone numbers of local psychiatric wards and/or drug suppliers
18:01:57 <_bjoern> I do sometimes use Opera these days for the better zooooooming support.
18:02:47 <MoiraA> thank god I didnt have a passenger and there was no kid on the pavement
18:03:40 <MoiraA> its not me, but I've had periods when I've suddenly fallen asleep
18:03:40 <MoiraA> just before I went out, I woke up to find I'd fallen asleep and fell off my chair at the computer and came crashing down on a pile of cds etc
18:03:40 <MoiraA> that should have told me not to drive
18:03:42 <MoiraA> but I'll let you get on - can catch you later
18:03:48 <sbp> _bjoern: okay, added to http://swhack.jottit.com/faq
18:04:10 <sbp> MoiraA: the only things going on right now are noking and football
18:04:18 <sbp> I did my copious amounts of work earlier in ye day
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18:04:40 <sbp> so now I can lounge and sprawl and laze and oh, it's magnificent! the joy of worklessness!
18:04:54 <Arnia> sbp: hm
18:05:05 * Arnia hands sbp a wodge of papers to process
18:05:10 <sbp> aw mang
18:05:39 <sbp> I'm lazing so *hardcore* that I'm not even watching football, actually
18:05:48 <sbp> I don't even know when kick-off is
18:05:51 <sbp> how's *that* for lazy?
18:05:57 <sbp> (or tired, rather)
18:06:14 * sbp migrates tellywards
18:06:17 <Arnia> Who cares about association football?
18:06:46 <MoiraA> you have enjoy life, but I am getting reported to the dvla to see if they want to take my license away
18:06:50 <sbp> well there are twenty two players, three referees, me, and 70,000 fans in the stadium
18:06:57 <MoiraA> might end up in court
18:07:56 <Arnia> sbp: I prefer 30 players, four referees, and 80 minutes per match
18:07:56 <MoiraA> derek was frantic when I called him in the morning, nobody had bothered to ring him when it happened
18:07:58 <sbp> MoiraA: hopefully not though, eh?
18:08:07 <sbp> Arnia: heh
18:08:24 <sbp> this is a weird advert
18:08:27 <MoiraA> police have got the car
18:08:31 <sbp> some guy is writing on a breast
18:08:40 <MoiraA> won't let us have it until its all sorted out
18:08:51 <sbp> bummer
18:09:11 <sbp> actually, I'm not sure that this is an advert
18:09:16 <sbp> it's a bloody long advert if it is
18:09:24 <sbp> ah yes, it was a Nike advert
18:09:56 <sbp> BUY NIKE AND YOU TOO SHALL WRITE ON BREASTS
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18:14:05 <thelsdj> does creative commons no-derivative dissallow format conversion?
18:14:23 <sbp> I don't think so, but I'm just intuiting
18:15:33 <thelsdj> one of this years hugo nominees is cc-by-nc-nd 3.0 but its only available as a stupid flash viewer that doesn't work on linux (even with latest flash plugin)
18:15:48 <sbp> ugh
18:15:56 <sbp> I say boycott the Hugos!
18:16:12 <sbp> until they fix it
18:16:16 <sbp> show 'em who's boss
18:19:00 <sbp> MoiraA: got any backup mode of transport?
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18:23:45 <MoiraA> sbp: no
18:24:42 <MoiraA> except the courtesy car provided with the insurance policy, but it's a bit complicated
18:25:47 <sbp> hmm. you haven't got it yet?
18:27:24 <MoiraA> no
18:27:47 <MoiraA> derek will sort out the claim. but the police have to also examine the vehicle
18:28:10 <sbp> what, before you get a courtesy car?
18:28:15 <sbp> or before they let you drive again?
18:28:16 <MoiraA> derek can sometimes give lifts
18:28:42 <sbp> what happened? fell asleep at the wheel?
18:30:46 <MoiraA> no, not at all sensitive
18:30:54 <MoiraA> I guess I did fall asleep
18:31:21 <sbp> at least you didn't hurt anything, except yourself
18:31:24 <sbp> what kind of place was it?
18:31:32 <MoiraA> the the womans wall I ruined as dead nice
18:31:41 <sbp> hmm?
18:32:34 <MoiraA> used to be a nice house and garde till I DEmp;osed ot
18:32:43 <sbp> ah
18:32:57 <sbp> still tired? maybe you should get a bit more rest!
18:33:01 <sbp> been a long day, it sounds like
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18:33:23 <sbp> (your typing's starting to fragment a bit)
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18:35:43 <sbp> “You've got to be brave or daft to be a goalkeeper. Preferably both.” - commentator
18:37:24 <MoiraA> she came and asked if I'd like some sweet tea
18:37:47 <sbp> aww, that was nice of her
18:37:57 <MoiraA> with her wall demolished!
18:38:01 <sbp> yeah
18:38:37 <MoiraA> I know, my fingers just wont move the way I want them to
18:39:01 <sbp> heh
18:39:20 <sbp> reckon you'll be alright driving again when you can?
18:39:21 <sbp> bit scared?
18:40:54 <MoiraA> very scared
18:41:28 <MoiraA> lol,I hadnt realised they took down verbatim what you say in a statement
18:41:39 <sbp> heh, of course
18:41:44 <sbp> why, what did you say?
18:44:06 <MoiraA> the police asked if I considered myself a competent driver at that moment whenI had the accident
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18:45:19 <MoiraA> I said "well no, competent drivers don't do unnessary U turns and then drive up onto the pavement into someone's wall"
18:45:31 <MoiraA> That was quoted!
18:45:49 <MoiraA> silly question really
18:54:07 <thelsdj> the CC license states: "You may not impose any effective technological measures on the Work that restrict the ability of
