00:13:49 <_bjoern> countdown
00:13:50 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 6, 7, 4, 3, 9. Your target is 344. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:14:11 <_bjoern> calc (9+7)*(25) - 6
00:14:11 <Monty> _bjoern: 394
00:14:19 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:14:21 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 15 milliseconds. I found all 59 solutions in about 46 milliseconds.
00:14:22 <Monty> ibot (6*9 + 25 + 7)*4
00:14:38 <_bjoern> hmm
00:14:40 <_bjoern> countdown
00:14:41 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 25, 7, 9, 3, 7, 4. Your target is 978. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:14:57 <_bjoern> calc 9*4*25
00:14:57 <Monty> _bjoern: 900
00:15:11 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:15:12 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 31 milliseconds. I found all 4 solutions in about 47 milliseconds.
00:15:14 <Monty> ibot ((9*4 + 7)*7 + 25)*3
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00:29:21 <_bjoern> sbp2002: what do you think of RSS 1.1?
00:29:22 <sbp2002> unless you have the resources be updatable, or would you have a car?
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00:29:34 <_bjoern> sbp2002: either way.
00:29:35 <sbp2002> apart from that; no dramas, just good boxing. Lewis always sizing him up
00:29:59 <_bjoern> sbp2002: you should replace your f1 addiction with a RSS 1.1 addiction.
00:30:00 <sbp2002> 2001-08-31 03:16:05 <Morbus> Morbus has done spookily well:-
00:30:04 <_bjoern> sbp2002: ask twe for pointers.
00:30:05 <sbp2002> it's cool: as if they like (since that's all I'd be using PGP for at least I know
00:30:27 <_bjoern> phenny, "Würstchen"?
00:30:29 <phenny> _bjoern: "small sausage" (de)
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00:57:08 <_bjoern> countdown
00:57:08 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 7, 5, 5, 3, 7. Your target is 294. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:57:21 <_bjoern> calc 3*(100 + 7 - 5)
00:57:21 <Monty> _bjoern: 306
00:57:28 <_bjoern> calc 3*(100 + 5 - 7)
00:57:28 <Monty> _bjoern: 294
00:57:36 <_bjoern> ha, I knew it
00:57:38 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:57:39 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 0 milliseconds. I found all 92 solutions in about 31 milliseconds.
00:57:41 <Monty> ibot (100 + 5 - 7)*3
00:57:45 <_bjoern> countdown
00:57:46 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 50, 5, 5, 4, 2, 1. Your target is 552. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:57:57 <_bjoern> calc (5+5+1) *50 +2
00:57:57 <Monty> _bjoern: 552
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00:58:01 <_bjoern> l33t
00:58:18 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:58:20 <_bjoern> .gc l33t pron
00:58:21 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 16 milliseconds. I found all 56 solutions in about 47 milliseconds.
00:58:25 <Monty> ibot ((50 + 5)*5 + 1)*2
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00:58:30 <_bjoern> I call it prongc
00:58:39 <phenny> l33t pron: 139,000
01:19:13 <_bjoern> #Swhack
01:19:17 <_bjoern> This is me writing
01:19:23 <_bjoern> I wish you all a good night
01:19:27 <_bjoern> good day
01:19:30 <_bjoern> or good morning
01:19:33 <_bjoern> depending on your
01:19:35 <_bjoern> time zone
01:19:38 <_bjoern> or sleep cycle
01:19:47 <_bjoern> or otherwise
01:19:48 <Monty> doh
01:19:56 <tobbez> same to you, _bjoern
01:19:57 <_bjoern> You too Monty.
01:20:00 <Monty> ugh, I simplified :) Cleaned it full and like r258
01:20:03 <_bjoern> Thanks tobbez
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01:27:28 <Arnia> My head hurts with the size of these numbers
01:29:51 <Arnia> According to my statistics, if I could reduce the time spent on information management by just 5%, then the total money I could save across a collection of key sectors in the UK would be £4.5 billion pa. This is effectively the maximum revenue I could expect if I controlled 100% of the market, but it is still a worryingly large number
01:30:05 <Arnia> I'm actually a tad dubious about the ONS data I downloaded to calculate this
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03:09:32 <Arnia> hm...
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06:38:42 <sbp> Boris Johnson's dad said something great yesterday
06:38:56 <sbp> Jon Sopel asked what Boris was like, whether he'd be good running London
06:39:04 <sbp> and his dad said, “Oh well he's an excellent classics scholar, and if someone knows Latin and Greek that well they're going to be great running London.”
06:39:07 <sbp> Jon Sopel was like eh?
06:44:25 <sbp> .gc "cappucino antelope"
06:44:26 <phenny> "cappucino antelope": 0
06:44:33 <sbp> .ety antelope
06:44:34 <phenny> "1417, from O.Fr. antelop, from M.L. ant(h)alopus, from Gk. antholops (attested in Eusebius of Antioch, c.336 C.E.), a fabulous animal haunting the banks of the Euphrates, very savage, hard to catch and having long saw-like horns capable of cutting down trees." - http://etymonline.com/?term=antelope
06:47:12 <sbp> .title http://blogamundo.net/dev/2008/05/01/of-the-media-scientists-word-lengths-and-colossal-squids/
06:47:13 <phenny> sbp: 412 Precondition Failed
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06:52:31 <thelsdj> yo sbpder
06:55:10 <sbp> yo mang
06:56:11 <thelsdj> waz sup
06:59:59 <sbp> currently reading this:
07:00:00 <sbp> #
07:00:00 <sbp> A New Fragment of Aeolic Verse
07:00:00 <sbp> # E. Lobel and D. L. Page
07:00:00 <sbp> # The Classical Quarterly, New Series, Vol. 2, No. 1/2 (Jan. - Apr., 1952), pp. 1-3
07:00:24 <sbp> a fragment probably by Alcaeus
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07:12:23 <sbp> man, I need a Greek keyboard layout
07:13:06 <sbp> αοκργπακργα,ω
07:13:08 <sbp> ηεηε
07:13:10 <sbp> αςεσομε
07:13:21 <sbp> ηευ, ψαν πεοπλε στιλλ μορε ορ λεσσ δεψιπηερ ςηατ Ι'μ σαυινγ?
07:13:36 <sbp> Ι σηοθλδ ξθστ τυπε ιν Γρεεκ ψυπηερ φρομ νος ον
07:13:43 <sbp> ιτ'λλ μακε με λοοκ... ψλεωερ ορ σομετηινγ
07:14:09 <sbp> ιτ'σ φθννυ, εωεν ιφ υοθ'ρε ξθστ ον σψαν-φορ-Ενγλιση μοδε, υοθ ψαν στιλλ μακε οθτ α λοτ οφ τηε Γρεεκ λεττερσ
07:14:27 <sbp> ανυςαυ, υεαη μανγ (ορ υεαη μαγγ)
07:14:32 <sbp> ξθστ ςηατ Ι νεεδεδ
07:14:37 <sbp> ςηατ? λοοκσ λικε γνατ
07:18:21 <sbp> ιτ'σ αμαζινγ ηος εασυ ιτ ισ το γετ θσεδ το πολυτονιψ Γρεεκ
07:18:32 <sbp> hehe
07:18:55 <thelsdj> after studying a few minutes i can read a lot of that but some is a bit hard to figure out heh
07:23:48 <sbp> :-)
07:24:02 <sbp> the mapping isn't quite 1:1 phonetically, which causes some of the problem
07:24:06 <sbp> e.g. theta is u
07:24:43 <sbp> also, trailing sigma is w
07:24:48 <sbp> whereas omega is v!
07:24:53 <sbp> which seems somewhat nutty
07:25:58 <sbp> so, ςηατ was "what", for example
07:26:06 <sbp> not snat
07:26:12 <sbp> or gnat
07:26:16 <thelsdj> i figured that but then i couldn't get the third word
07:26:20 <sbp> as it looks like when you scan it
07:26:24 <thelsdj> what? looks like ???
07:26:29 <sbp> νεεδεδ?
07:26:29 <thelsdj> er forth word
07:26:43 <thelsdj> that was 'needed'
07:26:48 <sbp> υεαη
07:27:53 <sbp> so I needed it to transcribe a fragment of Sappho I found in a 1906 paper
07:28:00 <sbp> and oddly enough, I can only find one website which has it
07:28:05 <sbp> http://mapage.noos.fr/anaxagore/Confidences.html
07:28:11 <sbp> and even then, the form seems to be different
07:28:41 <sbp> I'm starting to wonder if Sappho scholarship isn't as fragmentary as Sappho's poems
07:30:50 <thelsdj> ahahah nice i just remembered where the topic comes from
07:31:02 <thelsdj> nsh read dark integers
07:33:50 <thelsdj> .gc "familiar with Machiavelli and own the complete boxed set of"
07:33:51 <phenny> "familiar with Machiavelli and own the complete boxed set of": 4
07:34:42 <thelsdj> http://magna-verse.blogspot.com/2008/04/dark-integers-greg-egan.html
07:34:54 <thelsdj> one of those blogs that copy/pastes entire websites contents without adding anything
07:35:17 <thelsdj> atleast that post is
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07:41:45 <sbp> yeah, I hate those
07:41:53 <sbp> except when they preserve stuff you can't get elsewhere
07:42:28 <sbp> thelsdj: oh, the fourth word was "gnat" by the way
07:43:18 <thelsdj> oooh a meta reference, no suprise i didn't get it
07:44:38 <thelsdj> how is it that steven moffat has such a short resume, i guess the world hasn't realized his genius yet, atleast not outside the UK, though he is writing Tintin
07:47:18 <thelsdj> I've been getting one episode of Jeeves and Wooster a week on a PBS station here, NEED MORE
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08:45:04 <sbp> wow, one of these Edmonds fragments I just can't find anywhere
08:45:16 <sbp> even though it's a) beautiful, and b) one of the biographically important ones
08:46:24 <sbp> I suspect it might be Lobel-Page 92
08:46:32 <sbp> if so, it's a very divergent reconstruction...
08:50:07 <sbp> (this is fun, by the way)
08:53:03 <sbp> ah yes! it is 92!
08:56:50 <sbp> man. in the Lobel-Page edition, one of the prettiest phrases is gone
08:57:15 <sbp> I wonder if Edmonds just conjectured it from muddy glyphs
08:57:32 <sbp> on the other hand, he clearly marks all the characters he's uncertain about
08:57:36 <sbp> and the pretty phrase is not one of them
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09:00:33 <sbp> oh wait, I think he's restoring them from elsewhere
09:00:33 <sbp> hmm
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09:08:58 <sbp> ooh
09:09:15 <sbp> I wonder if what happened is that Lobel-Page got their version from the Berliner Klassikertexte
09:09:34 <sbp> without consulting the MS facsimile, which is what Edmonds seems to have done
09:09:44 <sbp> and so the LP version has filtered into the modern awareness
09:09:51 <sbp> Edmonds being ignored for whatever reason
09:11:19 <sbp> ωσπερ is dwell, right?
09:11:57 <sbp> oh, no. "just as"
09:12:14 <sbp> okay, I think I follow
09:12:31 <sbp> just as/as/like
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09:14:35 <sbp> aw, he doesn't translate his third fragment
09:16:32 <sbp> hmm. it's got παρθενίαν in it
09:16:44 <sbp> like Wharton 102 and 109
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09:19:01 <sbp> another bit seems to be "οὐκὶ βάρυ"
09:19:06 <sbp> which doesn't come up as a phrase anywhere
09:19:19 <sbp> the two words come up in http://www.phys.uoa.gr/~nektar/history/tributes/ancient_authors/Aristophanes/lysistrata.htm at least
09:20:14 <sbp> oh well, guess I'll have to ignore this one. it's extremely fragmentary anyway
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09:35:18 <_bjoern> You people better keep a good eye on the storks when I'm gone for a few days, startin RSN OMG PACKING
09:35:28 <laplink> I´unno. `s Greek to me.
09:35:29 <sbp> “Appropriate comment is in my mind, and had surely better stay there.” - Page, on a hack critic
09:35:45 <sbp> _bjoern: you're going to Switzerland again?
09:36:09 <_bjoern> opposite border this time
09:36:49 <_bjoern> I might take hovering halligen photos.
09:40:44 <thelsdj> sbp: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Morganlfay.jpg is a dead link now from http://inamidst.com/notes/halligen
09:41:25 <sbp> _bjoern: ooöhë̈z!
09:41:31 <sbp> thelsdj: aw, arse
09:41:35 <sbp> stupid wikipedia
09:42:07 <sbp> ah, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Morganlfay.jpg
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10:02:01 <sbp> .gc bittersweet
10:02:02 <phenny> bittersweet: 10,700,000
10:02:07 <sbp> apparently a Sapphic coinage
10:02:12 <sbp> (γλυκύπικρον)
10:02:22 <sbp> (from Lobel-Page 130)
10:02:26 <laplink> .wik Sapphic
10:02:26 <phenny> "Related to Sappho, a 7th century BC poetess." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapphic
10:02:31 <sbp> fully: Lobel-Page 130 / Diehl 137 / Voigt 130 / Bergk 40
10:02:45 <sbp> it's quoted in Hephaestion
10:02:54 <sbp> there's some debate as to whether it's part of a four line or two line fragment
10:03:24 * sbp wonders what ἀμάχανον is
10:04:14 <sbp> apparently uncontrollable or unmanagable
10:04:46 <sbp> amachanon?
10:04:50 <sbp> anyway
10:07:03 <sbp> oh man
10:07:09 <sbp> I just thought of a great translation for ὄρπετον
10:07:11 <sbp> creepling!
10:08:19 <sbp> bittersweet boisterous creepling
10:10:05 <sbp> hmm. Voigt seems to be the standard work now
10:10:13 <sbp> progression seems to have been:
10:10:24 <sbp> Wharton, Bergk, Diehl, Lobel-Page, Voigt
10:10:56 <sbp> Eva-Maria Voigt, Sappho et Alcaeus: Fragmenta (Amsterdam, Athenaeum-Polak and Van Gennep, 1971)
10:15:27 <sbp> hmm, I was going to say that The Sappho Companion (Reynolds, ed.) sounds good
10:15:38 <sbp> but it's translations are all from old authors, and generally mouldy
10:15:43 <sbp> s/it's/its/
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10:16:49 <sbp> hehe. I just found two awesome paper titles
10:16:51 <sbp> 1) GODS’ BLUE HAIR IN HOMER AND IN EIGHTEENTH-DYNASTY EGYPT
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10:16:51 <Monty> hi sr_
10:16:59 <sbp> 2) ACROTELEUTIUM’S SAPPHIC INFATUATION
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10:18:10 <_bjoern> T-30min
10:19:02 <sbp> ooh: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:cGqVjQ4U9r8J:classicaljournal.org/Numerorum%2520Tabulae%2520for%2520Campbell.xls
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10:19:23 <Monty> welcome, BigJibby
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10:26:07 <MoiraA> morning
10:27:17 <sbp> hey MoiraA
10:28:16 <MoiraA> spending a lot on taxis here :/
10:28:29 <MoiraA> you don't realise how much you depend on a car
10:30:44 * MoiraA is reading up on narcolepsy
10:30:52 <MoiraA> reckon that may be what I've gotg
10:30:54 <MoiraA> -g
10:31:28 <sbp> ooh, like Niles in that episode of Frasier
10:31:30 <sbp> that was a funny one
10:32:29 <MoiraA> didnt see it :)
10:36:24 <sbp> .gc +habrosúnâ
10:36:25 <phenny> +habrosúnâ: 2
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10:38:36 <sbp> shame http://www.stoa.org/hopper/text.jsp?doc=Stoa:text:2003.01.0007:part=1:chapter=5 won't load
10:38:53 <sbp> seems to have contained a glossed version of Lobel-Page 44
10:38:57 <sbp> and extensive commentary
10:43:32 <sbp> heh, my notes on Sappho are at 8000 words since yesterday or the day before
10:45:33 <sbp> I wonder if it was Lobel-Page 95 that was said to have inspired Papyrus?
10:47:00 <sbp> pfft, Carson doesn't even try, as usual
10:47:10 <sbp> there's a whole word on that second line!
10:47:14 <sbp> she doesn't even translate it!
10:47:27 <sbp> δηρατ
10:48:51 <sbp> well, third line
10:51:06 <sbp> then again, even Edmonds doesn't try
10:51:15 <sbp> and he's the master of padding translations out apparently
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10:57:20 <laplink> How do you pad a translation?
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11:03:25 <sbp> laplink: well if the original were something like "she sat on the lawn", a padded translation would be "and thereunto the lawn did the female person plant her posterior"
11:03:53 <sbp> it means roughly the same thing... but...
11:04:58 <laplink> So a lack of interpretation then?
11:05:20 <sbp> lacking in precision, yeah
11:05:31 <sbp> but the problem is that it's usually done to try to give some flavour of the tenses
11:05:42 <sbp> I'll give you a concrete example from Middle English
11:05:49 <sbp> the famous song, "summer is icomen in"
11:06:16 <sbp> it would actually be translated more accurately as: "summer has come in", not "summer is coming in"
11:06:30 <sbp> but then that fucks the metre, and since it's a song the metre is important
11:06:39 <sbp> once I translated it as "summer has a-come right in"
11:06:52 <sbp> which is a padded translation, for the sake of preserving the metre and sense as closely as possible
11:07:10 <laplink> ah
11:16:37 <sbp> phenny: " . .el más bello de todos los astros."?
11:16:39 <phenny> sbp: ". el more beautiful of all the stars." (es)
11:19:05 <sbp> Lobel-Page 104b, from Himerius
11:20:14 <sbp> huh, odd. I have two different versions of 105c
11:20:18 <sbp> (LP)
11:20:27 <sbp> well they can't both be right... unless they're both fragments of one thing
11:23:48 <sbp> ah, one of them was 105b
11:23:55 <sbp> I think I misplaced a heading
11:28:05 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted "Lobel-Page 105b quoted in Elena Pallantza's paper" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/60161
11:28:20 <sbp> argh, the entities
11:28:26 <sbp> chandler: ping!
11:29:42 <sbp> seems useless anyway. hmphrfh
11:31:15 <sbp> hmm, 110: another mystery
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11:31:19 <sbp> probably I've got a and b
11:31:29 <sbp> they're marked 110a and 110 at the moment
11:32:48 <sbp> phenny: "De siete brazos los pies del portero, sus zapatos de cinco becerros: ¡diez zapateros los cosieron!"?
11:32:49 <phenny> sbp: "of seven arms the feet of the doorman, their shoes of five yearling calves: ten shoemakers sewed them!" (es)
11:33:31 <sbp> okay...
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11:41:06 <sbp> man, for some of these things, fragmentary is an understatement
11:41:14 <sbp> here's one of 'em: “. . . . . . . ]ον[ . . . . .”
11:41:43 <sbp> you won't get anybody going, "hey, remember that beautiful expression of Sappho, 'ον'?"
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11:47:51 <Monty> hi mahound_
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11:53:01 <laplink> .gc ον
11:53:02 <phenny> ον: 687,000
11:53:10 <laplink> One of his most quited, it seems.
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12:03:07 <sbp> his?
12:03:30 * sbp marches laplink right off to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappho
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12:16:43 <laplink> Don't.
12:17:22 <sbp> aw
12:17:23 <laplink> I'm still putting off the mondo tafting session starting at ''300 (film)''.
12:17:33 <sbp> .wik 300 (film)
12:17:35 <phenny> "300 is a 2007 film adaptation of the graphic novel 300 by Frank Miller, and is a fictionalized retelling of the Battle of Thermopylae." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_(film)
12:17:39 <sbp> ooh
12:17:47 <sbp> dude, Sappho is taftariffic
12:17:58 <laplink> Historically fairly annoying, but a visual feast.
12:18:19 <sbp> heh. people always get at least one element wrong, don't they?
12:18:41 <laplink> With just a tad more taste and a smidgen more characterization, it would have been awsome.
12:18:51 <laplink> yeah
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12:32:37 <sbp> phenny: it "Cipride, molto amara ella ti trovi! Fa che Dorica non si vanti mai d'aver colto l'amor desiderato un'altra volta."?
12:32:38 <phenny> sbp: "cipride, much bitter it finds to you! it makes that dorica never does not go you to have cultured the amor wished an other time." (it)
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13:11:20 <laplink> I no longer have a drinking problem.
13:11:20 <Monty> stupidly ordered from cavalcare 'to ride on xmoto
13:11:35 <laplink> My drinking is now your problem.
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14:23:07 <therethinker> Can we just have 2 out of 3? (@ title)
14:24:02 <laplink> hmm. reminds me i need to acquire the west wing at some point
14:26:40 <sbp> hmm, I'd really like a good word-by-word translation of 96
14:26:40 <therethinker> exactly. is it that good?
14:27:00 <therethinker> hmm?
14:27:21 <MoiraA> Íí·øî·èß Unknown command
14:27:21 <MoiraA> -
14:27:21 <MoiraA> 7 Unknown command
14:27:21 <MoiraA> err sorry
14:27:47 <MoiraA> didnt realise that wasstill on the cipbotf
14:28:15 <therethinker> heh
14:28:39 <sbp> Bergk 4 is confusing
14:29:16 <MoiraA> you have also failed tqqqqe
14:30:03 <MoiraA> therethinker
14:30:17 <therethinker> hmm>
14:30:37 <MoiraA> thought we had ree iad
14:31:19 <therethinker> MoriaA: speak understandably!
14:32:18 <sbp> yes. please
14:35:45 <sbp> ooh. Wikisource is *completely wrong*
14:36:08 <sbp> yes, I think I understand now
14:36:31 <sbp> it's using Lobel-Page 2 *Greek* with Bergk 2 *English*, not realising that Bergk 2 is Lobel-Page 31
14:36:36 <sbp> chuckle
14:36:47 <sbp> well if that doesn't underline the difficulties...
14:36:48 <Monty> aw, arse into doing a transfering device in Lunnen too I of the getups appearing in Berlin so called Herr Schwartz
14:38:07 <sbp> ah, and it's just using the Cox translation
14:38:15 <sbp> hmm. bet it's Cox 2 too
14:38:29 * Arnia fiddles with market size estimates
14:38:42 <sbp> yep. heh
14:39:01 <Arnia> £4.5bn pa for the UK. Didn't realise so much money was wasted on bad information management
14:40:55 <Arnia> I should try and sell the idea to Boris
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14:43:58 <cre8radix> ahoi
14:45:10 * Arnia steals cre8radix
14:45:33 * cre8radix was stolen
14:45:57 * cre8radix redistributes a derivate of arnia
14:47:15 * sbp should probably just give up and buy a few volumes of Sappho and an Aeolic Greek dictionary
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14:47:37 <Arnia> boing?
14:47:42 <sbp> yo Arnia!
14:48:29 <Arnia> Sorry, my head is full business stuff right now :/
14:48:35 <sbp> np :-)
14:48:38 <sbp> why business?
14:48:48 <Arnia> Writing the business plan for getting the funding
14:48:52 <sbp> aha
14:49:11 <Arnia> So, I spent several hours last night trawling through data sets from the ONS
14:49:43 <Arnia> And using them to estimate how much each company 'spends' on information management in terms of employee time
14:51:14 <Arnia> Worryingly, if the best information management solution only saves 5% of the time spent on information management, and that time is on average 20% of employee time (a conservative estimate apparently) then the market size for such solutions is still roughly £3bn in the UK alone
14:51:30 <Arnia> That's per annum
14:55:52 <Arnia> ONS statistics are fascinating actually
14:56:22 <Arnia> Once you figure out how to frame your questions that is
15:10:50 <sbp> hmm. based on a very small sample, Barnstone's verse blows Carson's out of the water
15:11:01 <MoiraA> sbp and therethinker: sorry
15:11:26 <therethinker> HOW COULD YOU! D:
15:11:37 <therethinker> Its okay, I just... didn't know what you were saying...
15:11:38 <MoiraA> what I was trying to say was why is your nick back to that lengthy name again?
15:12:05 <therethinker> Oh, yeah. because I'm on a different comp, and zachb is still around
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15:12:12 <therethinker> and I don't want to kick him
15:12:14 <MoiraA> *rethinker* I thought we agreed on
15:13:22 <MoiraA> and I guess I was kind of falling asleep again
15:13:25 <therethinker> Yeah, then I made it zachb
15:13:27 <therethinker> its shorter
15:13:35 <therethinker> and... more professional?
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15:13:40 <sbp> I preferred z^
15:13:55 <MoiraA> the consensus seems to be that I've developed narcolepy
15:13:56 <rethinker> really? nslater hated it
15:13:56 <sbp> it was like... z to the power? z xor? z circumflex?
15:14:01 <sbp> leaves you in a state of suspense
15:14:08 <sbp> yeah, but you know nslater
15:14:13 <sbp> where the heck is nslater, anyway?
15:14:14 <rethinker> heh
15:14:18 <sbp> nslater: where are you
15:14:20 <sbp> .seen nslater
15:14:21 <phenny> sbp: I last saw nslater at 2008-05-02 01:30:57 UTC on #swhack
15:14:23 <rethinker> he threatened to +k me :D
15:14:24 <rethinker> *D:
15:14:28 <sbp> sweet
15:16:33 <nslater> sbp: I am always here, like celing cat
15:17:03 <sbp> .c 13.20 + 9.09
15:17:04 <phenny> 13.20 + 9.09 = 22.29
15:17:08 <sbp> nslater: woah, you're watching us all masturbate?
15:17:14 <nslater> sbp: every day
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15:17:39 <z^> TAKE THAT NSLATER!
15:17:44 <sbp> nslater: check out Sappho when you're done with Meades
15:18:32 <nslater> sbp: I've actually already had a Sappho based tafting session, I may not have spoken much but I still follow the occasional links :p
15:19:11 <sbp> awesome
15:19:15 <sbp> hmmm
15:19:20 <sbp> Lombardoossss
15:19:24 <sbp> translationnnn
15:19:24 <nslater> by the way, you need to watch 300 :)
15:19:26 <sbp> off
15:19:30 <sbp> Sappho
15:19:36 <sbp> is very (modern)
15:19:38 <sbp> (and)
15:19:41 <sbp> (ANNOYING)
15:19:57 <sbp> (you don't even know where to read the next word!)
15:20:32 <sbp> hmm, what about Barnard...
15:21:01 <sbp> sigh. thingy and thingy really need to get more consistent with one another
15:21:10 <sbp> amazon.com and amazon.co.uk with search and look inside, I mean
15:21:40 <sbp> Barnard: no Greek. also, fail
15:24:01 <sbp> Jim Powell: no Greek, and middling translations, but at least it gives LP numbers
15:24:07 <sbp> marked as LP
15:24:48 <sbp> shame Campbell isn't Search Inside
15:24:58 <sbp> the Look only covers the essay, not the poems
15:28:23 <z^> sbp: err... wot?
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15:31:33 <sbp> eh?
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15:32:08 <Monty> hey bct
15:35:07 <sbp> ah, here we go
15:35:16 <sbp> Campbell doesn't have verse divisions in his translations
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16:11:51 <sbp> .gc chervil
16:11:53 <phenny> chervil: 343,000
16:11:53 <sbp> .wik chervil
16:11:55 <phenny> "Chervil (Anthriscus cerefolium) is a delicate annual herb related to parsley." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chervil
16:11:56 <sbp> .ety chervil
16:11:57 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "chervil". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=chervil
16:12:00 <sbp> .gd chervil
16:12:01 <phenny> chervil: A mild, aromatic herb of the parsley family. It can be used like parsley, although its delicate flavor is diminished when boiled.
16:12:02 <sbp> .w chervil
16:12:03 <phenny> chervil n. 1: Aromatic annual Old World herb cultivated for its finely divided and often curly leaves for use especially in soups and salads
16:12:05 <phenny> chervil n. 2: Fresh ferny parsley-like leaves used as a garnish with chicken and veal and omelets and green salads and spinach.
16:13:21 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Anthriscus_cerefolium_Kervel_plant.jpg
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16:22:58 <Monty> bah, it's mahound_ again
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17:27:34 <sbp> hmm: http://www.webcams.travel/
17:27:37 <sbp> .title
17:27:39 <phenny> sbp: Webcams.travel - Touristic webcams worldwide
17:27:43 <sbp> looks like a Google thing
17:27:53 <sbp> hmm, no, it's not
17:28:12 <sbp> there was a link to it from maps.google.co.uk though, semi-directly
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17:59:48 <Arnia> "Some readers will no doubt say that a devil is inside me; and though my faith is a bit like Magic FM in the Chilterns, in that the signal comes and goes, I can only hope that isn't so." — "What's so funny about the Passion?", Daily Telegraph, 4 March 2004, p. 24.
17:59:57 <Arnia> No prizes for guessing who said that
18:00:18 <Arnia> (and I agree about Magic FM in the Chilterns. Radio signals around there are appalling)
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19:40:36 <sbp> phenny: "porque habla"?
19:40:38 <phenny> sbp: "because it speaks" (es)
19:40:44 <sbp> phenny: "a la novia de hermosos pies"?
19:40:45 <phenny> sbp: "to the fiancèe of beautiful feet" (es)
19:40:52 <sbp> phenny: "hija del Cronida, a la cubierta de violetas"?
19:40:55 <phenny> sbp: "daughter of the cronida, to the cover of violets" (es)
19:41:00 <sbp> phenny: "que enfurece dispuesta, cubierta de violetas"?
19:41:02 <phenny> sbp: "that it infuriates arranged, covered with violets" (es)
19:41:08 <sbp> phenny: "las sagradas Gracias y las Musas de Pieria"?
19:41:09 <phenny> sbp: "sagradas thanks and the musas de pieria" (es)
19:41:20 <sbp> phenny: "cuando canta, el alma"?
19:41:21 <phenny> sbp: "when it sings, the soul" (es)
19:41:27 <sbp> phenny: "oyendo el sonoro canto"?
19:41:29 <phenny> sbp: "oyendo the sonorous song" (es)
19:41:35 <sbp> phenny: "al novio, pues desdeña"?
19:41:36 <phenny> sbp: "to the fiancè, because it scorns" (es)
19:41:43 <sbp> phenny: "teme, dejando la lira"?
19:41:44 <phenny> sbp: "it fears, leaving the lira" (es)
19:41:53 <sbp> phenny: "la Aurora, de sandalias de oro"?
19:41:55 <phenny> sbp: "the aurora, of gold sandals" (es)
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20:12:40 <Monty> howdy, jeffarch
20:14:36 <laplink> .wik Foyle's War
20:14:38 <phenny> "Foyle's War is a British detective television programme created by screen-writer and author Anthony Horowitz, and commissioned by ITV after the long-running detective series Inspector Morse came to an end in 2000." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foyle's_War
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20:23:56 <z^> that name, Horowitz, seems familiar
20:24:00 <z^> .Horowitz
20:24:07 <z^> .wik Horowitz
20:24:08 <phenny> "Horowitz (האָראָװיץ ,הוֹרוֹביץ) is a surname which can refer to one of several prominent people." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horowitz
20:24:19 <z^> .wik Anthony Horowitz
20:24:20 <phenny> "Anthony Horowitz (born 5 April 1956) is an English author and television scriptwriter." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Horowitz
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20:32:07 <z^> .u machron e
20:32:08 <phenny> z^: Sorry, no results for 'machron e'.
20:32:12 <z^> .u machron
20:32:12 <Monty> "you"
20:32:13 <phenny> z^: Sorry, no results for 'machron'.
20:33:15 <z^> .u macron e
20:33:15 <Monty> "you"
20:33:16 <phenny> z^: Sorry, no results for 'macron e'.
20:33:19 <z^> .u e macron
20:33:20 <phenny> U+0113 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH MACRON (ē)
20:36:59 <z^> .u ȫ
20:36:59 <phenny> U+022B LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON (ȫ)
20:37:12 <z^> .u combining diaeresis macron
20:37:14 <phenny> z^: Sorry, no results for 'combining diaeresis macron'.
20:50:01 <z^> "too fucking busy, and vice versa"
20:51:25 <kpreid> .gc haircut harecut heircut
20:51:26 <phenny> haircut harecut heircut: 0
20:51:29 <kpreid> .gcs haircut harecut heircut
20:51:31 <phenny> haircut (12,800,000), harecut (2,800), heircut (346)
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