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03:57:50 <xover> If anyone happens to have a lolcat-worthy (sans the actual text) picture of a rabbit sitting around, I'd be much obliged.
03:59:09 <nsh> this is too cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHb_xXX7Ps&feature=related
03:59:17 <xover> .title
03:59:19 <phenny> xover: YouTube - Hang Drum TheArtOfFusion - Inner Voice
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04:00:13 <nsh> oh, it gets better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd58pPgmivI&feature=related
04:00:27 <xover> .title
04:00:28 <phenny> xover: YouTube - Hang Drum Experimenting
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04:01:51 <jsled> xover: plenty on <http://www.disapprovingrabbits.com/>, but maybe not licensed well enough, depending.
04:02:51 <xover> Oooh. This looks promising.
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04:04:54 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's jeffarch!
04:08:28 <jeffarch> What's your blazon, Monty?
04:08:30 <Monty> I wish I could consume standalone ;)
04:08:48 <nsh> jeffarch:
04:09:00 <nsh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHb_xXX7Ps&feature=related
04:09:16 <nsh> hang drum: the most awesome instrument i have seen in a long time
04:10:21 <nsh> now listening to http://www.hang-music.com/hangbox/ (random hang music) behind http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7396961996151094334 (brian josephson lecturing on the [in]completeness of quantum physics)
04:10:29 <mahound> hang drum is cool
04:10:44 <nsh> immensibly
04:11:27 <mahound> a friend of mine saw some street musician playing it, that's how i got to know it
04:16:31 <jeffarch> nsh, cool...will check it out (slowly)
04:16:38 <nsh> ah, right
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04:19:22 <jeffarch> sounds like ones they make out of steel barrels
04:20:35 <nsh> an article on the acoustics: http://www.acoustics.org/press/142nd/rossing.html
04:21:54 <jeffarch> I can just imagine the calluses from playing such a thing by hand
04:22:23 * nsh smiles
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04:23:08 <nsh> ah, it has a blog
04:23:19 <nsh> .title hangblog.org
04:23:24 <phenny> nsh: h a n g b l o g
04:23:31 <jeffarch> kinda looks like it's played with the bony side of the thumbs
04:24:32 * nsh nods
04:24:54 <nsh> but i think it can be played in a manner of ways
04:25:05 * jeffarch nods
04:25:13 <nsh> http://www.hangblog.org/panart/2-S2-4-IsmaRossing.pdf
04:25:27 <nsh> this pdf starts with describing the steel (oil)drum instruments
04:26:35 <nsh> ah, the fun you could have with one of those, a well designed room and a variety of mechanically driven singing bowls and other resonantors
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04:28:07 <jeffarch> I've always wanted to jam in a tuned kiva/hogan construction
04:28:28 <nsh> oh? sounds interesting
04:29:38 <nsh> ah, navajo architecture
04:30:29 <nsh> or, more generally native american
04:31:16 <jeffarch> kiva? yeah... south-western US
04:31:48 <nsh> i like that you enter a kiva through a hole in the roof
04:32:11 <jeffarch> yep
04:32:59 <_bjoern> .gc kiva hogan roof hole porn
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04:33:50 <nsh> .gc kiva hogan roof hole porn acoustics
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04:34:28 <nsh> jeffarch: have you played porn-google-countdown yet?
04:34:57 <jeffarch> heh...yeah
04:34:58 <nsh> you add a word with the aim of lowering the count but still having some results until someone gets zero
04:35:13 <_bjoern> then it's your turn jeffarch
04:35:22 <jeffarch> I had a run at it a couple weeks ago
04:35:24 <nsh> it's part of our ongoing battle against googlecount zero :-)
04:36:12 <jeffarch> .gc kiva hogan roof hole porn acoustics moaning
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04:39:26 <jeffarch> .gc resonant quantum kiva hogan roof hole porn acoustics moaning myopathy
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04:45:30 * nsh has to duck out
04:45:38 <nsh> it's clocking home time
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04:46:26 <jeffarch> .gc triangular resonant quantum kiva hogan roof hole porn nymphomanic acoustics stunningly moaning myopathy luncheon panopoly blues
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04:47:52 <phenny> sbp: 13:34Z <clsn> tell sbp naughty blazon. Takes advantage of quirks and bugs, hacking pyBlazon: or a triangle inverted sable in base between two roundels gules 2 0 and 0 between two flaunches sable. NSFW
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04:48:01 <sbp> win
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04:48:25 <jeffarch> heheh
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04:51:25 <sbp> even with the American spelling
04:52:11 * sbp chuckles at the rude blazon
04:53:50 <sbp> .title http://laughingsquid.com/the-worlds-largest-lolcat-invisible-bike-mural/
04:53:52 <phenny> sbp: The World’s Largest Lolcat, An Invisible Bike Mural | Laughing Squid
04:53:55 <sbp> Update 1 is especially funny
04:55:14 <thelsdj> huh, i guess i really do have bad taste: http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006680.html
04:55:25 <thelsdj> 2 of my favorites are actually rated lowest in their categories
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05:01:36 <sbp> I think it is THEY who have the bad taste
05:02:52 <chandler> mm. more Wolfe I haven't read
05:02:52 <phenny> chandler: 10:50Z <kpreid> tell chandler http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/05/captcha_paintings.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B4898490 (noted previously by therethinker) contains something of yours
05:03:18 <chandler> kpreid: whoa. cool!
05:10:55 <sbp> ahahaha
05:10:56 <sbp> thelsdj: http://www.explosm.net/comics/558/
05:13:07 <sbp> .gc roofhole-porn
05:13:08 <phenny> roofhole-porn: 0
05:13:18 <sbp> .gc roofhole
05:13:19 <phenny> roofhole: 202
05:13:28 <sbp> you know what to do
05:15:00 <jeffarch> Holey roofs, Monty-mon!
05:15:04 <Monty> fifteen new eyes creates butch Keith Floyd and thundering insane filling.
05:17:09 <sbp> chandler: what I like is how you made a CAPCHA so distinctive that kpreid could know that it was yours even when painted in acrylics on some random site
05:17:10 <_bjoern> I take it I won twice above.
05:17:17 <sbp> _bjoern: YEs
05:17:24 <sbp> also, I saw you in a dream last night
05:17:32 <sbp> you looked a bit like Bernhard Langer
05:17:32 <_bjoern> I know.
05:17:41 <sbp> it was quite funny because we were holding a Swhackmeet
05:17:52 <sbp> and I was sitting next to you, and xover was over the other side of the table and so on
05:18:06 <sbp> and I turned to look at you and I was all “what the fuck, I still can't see his damn face”
05:18:11 <Morbus> sbp, _bjoern ping
05:18:11 <sbp> so I got up and walked the other side of you
05:18:11 <phenny> Morbus: 18 May 16:49Z <sbp> tell Morbus http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_sc/france_caesar_bust
05:18:15 <chandler> sbp: I think it's the colors. Or the fact that it says "lisp".
05:18:20 <sbp> and it was like, oh, he looks a bit like Bernhard Langer
05:18:24 <Morbus> whoa
05:18:27 <chandler> (and "lisp" is all the lisppaste captcha says)
05:18:29 <sbp> pong
05:18:41 <Morbus> force refresh. tweaked logo again.
05:18:43 <sbp> chandler: yeah, bit of both I'd say. your table technique and everything too
05:19:01 <_bjoern> Did I wear light brown shoes, light white pants, and a white shirt with many Totenköpfe on it, and no beard?
05:19:36 <sbp> Morbus: I couldn't swear that it was different, but inasmuch as I remember how it was before, I like it better now
05:19:44 <Morbus> heh. alright.
05:19:50 <sbp> _bjoern: can't remember, it was a bit fuzzy
05:20:00 <Morbus> sbp: http://feast-or-fa.mine.nu/~morbus/Picture%202.png
05:20:06 <clsn> Morbus: someof the brown is shining through or overlaying some of the green. wasn't obvious when it was orange. intended?
05:20:07 <sbp> TIME TO LOOK UP TOTENKÖPFE
05:20:12 <Morbus> yeah.
05:20:14 <Morbus> the dice is shittier.
05:20:15 <_bjoern> .wik Totenköpfe
05:20:15 <Morbus> ;)
05:20:16 <phenny> "Totenkopf (Plural: Totenköpfe) is the German word for 'skull' (literally 'dead man's head') and is used to describe a military insigne featuring a skull superimposed upon crossed bones; when used in this context it is commonly known as a 'death's head' in English." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf
05:20:17 <clsn> sbp: you can guess at that surely.
05:20:22 <chandler> sbp: s'not actually a table, but a bunch of DIVs arranged using CSS. I can't even begin to express just how frustrating it was to get *that* working in IE + FF + Safari + Opera
05:20:48 <clsn> And you changed the arrangements of the numbers on the die.
05:20:54 <sbp> well I could've got the kopf bit perhaps, but I didn't know about the umlaut
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05:20:57 <sbp> _bjoern: nope
05:21:10 <Morbus> clsn: yes, too many people treated the numbers of the old one, as "meaning something" because they appeared sequential.
05:21:22 <_bjoern> Good, because that outfit would be totally unlike me.
05:21:24 <Morbus> it's actually a valid number distribution on both dies, but we changed them to stop people thinking they meant something.
05:21:30 <sbp> Morbus: still can't see the difference. hmm
05:21:31 <chandler> also, I love the font I'm using for the CAPTCHA.
05:21:33 <chandler> .title http://all-day-breakfast.com/cannam/codec.html
05:21:33 <clsn> I told you, you have to check that dicecollector page and make sure it's valid... Oh OK, good.
05:21:34 <phenny> chandler: Codec
05:21:37 <sbp> perhaps it's not refreshing. I am forcing it though
05:21:37 <_bjoern> (Despite this being my outfit today...)
05:21:45 <Morbus> sbp: http://feast-or-fa.mine.nu/~morbus/Picture%202.png
05:21:51 <kpreid> chandler, sbp: it's a captcha I see more than any other
05:21:51 <sbp> chandler: oh, has it ever been a table?
05:22:00 <sbp> Morbus: yes, it doesn't look different to that
05:22:10 <clsn> If the captcha always says the same thing, wouldn't it be kinda easy to defeat?
05:22:22 <sbp> _bjoern: borrowed t-shirt?
05:22:52 <Morbus> yes.
05:22:56 <chandler> clsn: theoretically, but no-one's bothered because it's impossible to get lisppaste to link to anything
05:22:59 <sbp> clsn: well you have to have the right mindset too when you enter it
05:23:04 <chandler> so all the spam was just robots
05:23:14 <chandler> also, you need to send back a token that's sent in the HTML
05:23:21 <clsn> Or to put it another way, nobody actually cares... :)
05:23:41 <chandler> ayup. which is surprising to me, but I'm not going to question it
05:23:51 <sbp> Morbus: welp, definitely can't see the difference between that at Picture 2. but it's good anyway so no matterz
05:24:00 <chandler> sbp: I don't think it's ever been a table
05:24:16 <sbp> chandler: could you make it have been a table?
05:24:25 * Morbus wanders of.
05:24:27 <sbp> time travel verb tenses for the win
05:24:39 <chandler> it willon on-been a table
05:24:40 <_bjoern> No I was shopping! Thought I might try something different.
05:24:42 <sbp> Morbus: whenzit going live?
05:24:49 <chandler> (if I'm remembering my HHGTTG grammar chapter correctly)
05:24:50 <Morbus> june 7th.
05:24:55 <Morbus> still have a laundry list an arm long.
05:25:00 <sbp> _bjoern: are the skulls saying shit? or eating one another or holding parties or what?
05:25:04 <Morbus> june 7th is when d&D 4e comes out.
05:25:12 <sbp> Morbus: aha!
05:25:17 <Morbus> sbp: incidentally, i'll propbably be running a play by post
05:25:24 <Morbus> if i don't have enough players, i'll offer it to you ;0
05:25:27 <_bjoern> I didn't even see them until I washed it, they say nothing.
05:25:27 <sbp> of D&D 4ed.?
05:25:36 <Morbus> yeah. see, the real books come out June 7th.
05:25:43 <sbp> _bjoern: choxelles
05:25:44 <Morbus> however, the first adventure, with some preview rules, comes out tomorrow.
05:25:56 <sbp> heh
05:25:59 <Morbus> so, to test the rules, i'm planning on running said first adventure via PBP
05:26:12 <sbp> gotcha
05:26:14 <Morbus> to see if it's possible (D&D 4E is very heavily miniature/"square" based for most of what it does)
05:26:23 * Morbus roots around.
05:26:38 <Morbus> http://www.gamegrene.com/node/901
05:27:00 <sbp> hahaha:
05:27:02 <sbp> [[[
05:27:02 <sbp> Submitted by Gazgurk on Sun, 2008-05-18 03:20.
05:27:03 <sbp> I freaking AM gazgurk!
05:27:03 <sbp> ]]]
05:27:17 <Morbus> "BTW, the Gazgurk touch was great, Morbus. lol"
05:27:22 <Morbus> Gazgurk showed up about a week ago.
05:27:28 <sbp> I don't know who the crap Gazgurk is, but I like 'em already
05:27:41 <Morbus> and spammed about 2 dozen posts with "4E sucks, rowr!" and other really crazy 4E hate, with no explanation.
05:28:00 <sbp> hehe
05:29:17 <sbp> probably one of the dudes behind it
05:29:17 <sbp> playing devil's advocate
05:29:17 <sbp> OMG SIMPSONS
05:29:17 <sbp> deltab: New Simpsons
05:30:13 <Morbus> http://www.gamegrene.com/user/2287/track
05:30:14 <Morbus> search for his name on http://www.gamegrene.com/node/882 for a representative look.
05:30:14 <Morbus> (3rd search match is best representation)
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05:37:41 <_bjoern> I totally don't look like Bernhard Langer
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06:01:17 <sbp> OMG THE ANTI-LANGER
06:01:40 <Morbus> sbp: would you be intereting in play-by-posting a "serious" D&D game, if i don't have enough folks?
06:01:55 <_bjoern> Well that'd be like, if you have me and langer, you'd have nothing. I doubt that.
06:02:01 <sbp> Morbus: how many rounds would be expected?
06:02:07 <Morbus> sbp: twice a week, FOREVER.
06:02:31 <Morbus> sbp: note, in D&D, a round is six seconds.
06:02:32 <sbp> _bjoern: noop
06:02:34 <Morbus> so, i guess, a fucking ass load.
06:02:35 <Morbus> ;)
06:02:44 <sbp> Morbus: six seconds?!
06:02:55 <Morbus> yes. a combat round is 6 seconds
06:03:01 <Morbus> been like that in many games forever
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06:08:34 * sbp suddenly notices the bottom of Picture 2... heh
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06:08:43 <sbp> yeah, the green is better
06:08:53 <sbp> how often would the rounds be?
06:09:00 <Morbus> don't think like that.
06:09:05 <Morbus> it's not a turn-based game like ghyll.
06:09:19 <Morbus> the measure of activity in this game is, ideally, "you must post twice a week" and "it could go on forever"
06:09:19 <Morbus> ;)
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06:10:39 <sbp> hmm
06:10:51 <sbp> I'd rather save stamina for when you reopen the Ghyll wiki...
06:10:52 <sbp> :-)
06:10:57 <Morbus> hah.
06:10:58 <sbp> WHICH WILL HAPPEN WON'T IT?!
06:11:01 <Morbus> maybe ;)
06:11:06 <sbp> hehe
06:11:09 <Morbus> what about a ghyll pbp?! ;)
06:11:17 <Morbus> i had a few people interested in that...
06:11:22 <sbp> possibly, depending on how gameplay proceeds
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06:18:52 <Morbus> [[[
06:18:53 <Morbus> [13:44] <Morbus> aye.
06:18:53 <Morbus> [13:44] <Morbus> and, same her.
06:18:53 <Morbus> [13:44] <Morbus> e
06:18:54 <Morbus> ...
06:18:59 <Morbus> [13:48] <Morbus> heh, he
06:18:59 <Morbus> [13:48] <Morbus> my pinky is faster than my last-letter-finger.
06:19:00 <Morbus> ]]]
06:19:11 <sbp> :-)
06:19:32 <sbp> I like the thing + rôle trope
06:19:39 <Morbus> hmm?
06:19:40 <sbp> I found one the other day
06:19:47 <sbp> Hesperus is said to be the evening star
06:19:55 <sbp> so it's like venus + rôle, i.e. venus in the evening
06:20:19 <sbp> and what you had there was finger (any finger) + rôle, types-the-last-letter
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06:26:17 <_bjoern> Monty2 Beta?
06:26:18 <Monty2> .cx
06:26:29 <_bjoern> teh bork Monty2
06:26:30 <Monty2> bye
06:26:32 <sbp> monty2.beta.cx
06:26:34 <Monty2> I firmly believe that anchors is bubbly ;)
06:26:34 <_bjoern> cu Monty2
06:26:35 <Monty2> transcendency == dumps;
06:27:14 <chandler> Monty2: going somewhere?
06:27:15 <Monty2> yes
06:27:19 <chandler> Monty2: where?
06:27:22 <Monty2> megalithic familiar URL piddles Welsh magnified maggots ;)
06:27:42 <chandler> oh KAY.
06:27:42 <_bjoern> Monty2: meaning you are going to ...?
06:27:47 <Monty2> magnetic Bob Young's hula-hoop implements humiliated NBCowBot and funny greasy bezlers, apparently.
06:27:50 <sbp> Monty2: –—–—–—–—–—–—–—–—–—–—–—–—
06:27:53 <Monty2> stalectites's exhibitionism reminds me of prickly bodies.
06:27:54 <_bjoern> nu
06:28:16 <sbp> dat dood is just as quirky as eva innit
06:29:20 <_bjoern> nu
06:29:34 <_bjoern> Monty2 testicle ur pony trunk.
06:29:35 <Monty2> MADNESS
06:29:45 <_bjoern> Monty2, yes, but did that ever stop you?
06:29:48 <Monty2> I've got proof that you install Ng's stables...
06:30:05 <_bjoern> Monty2, lol we were discussing you not me!
06:30:13 <Monty2> java -Xmx500m -cp ..:output/opennlp-tools-1.3.0.jar:lib/maxent-2.4.0.jar:lib/trove.jar:jwnl.jar:. opennlp.tools.lang.english.TreeBankLinker <NFtemp
06:30:18 <_bjoern> O
06:30:19 <sbp> Monty2: EVILS
06:30:19 <_bjoern> M
06:30:20 <_bjoern> G
06:30:21 <_bjoern> !
06:30:25 <Monty2> $4.33 so Mr. Fantastica. you're a half to get some called sarah and plain old one, it into websites browsed by far too long as fake :p
06:30:29 <_bjoern> They invaded monty2's body with java codes.
06:30:30 <Monty2> ur children?
06:30:38 <_bjoern> I don't know who did it!
06:30:41 <sbp> <Mr.Fantastica> don't draw me into this kids
06:30:47 <sbp> <Mr.Fantastica> kids and Monty2 i means
06:30:48 <Monty2> You say fantastica kids and monty2 you means ?
06:30:50 <_bjoern> But Monty2 I'm fairly certain my children had nothing to do with it.
06:30:51 <Monty2> aww
06:30:56 <sbp> <Mr.Fantastica> Monty2: what
06:30:57 <Monty2> We're doing a tad
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06:33:35 <sbp> cre8radix: are YOU doing a tad?
06:33:52 <_bjoern> In soviet reality tad does YOU.
06:34:04 <sbp> ônoez
06:34:19 <sbp> æœæœæœæœæœ
06:34:33 <_bjoern> We need a nu char.
06:34:33 <Monty2> Enquire
06:34:37 <sbp> aeiouŵŷæœ
06:34:40 <sbp> .u nu
06:34:41 <phenny> U+A193 YI SYLLABLE NU (ꆓ)
06:34:45 <sbp> .u gr nu
06:34:46 <phenny> U+03BD GREEK SMALL LETTER NU (ν)
06:34:50 <sbp> .u box nu
06:34:51 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results for 'box nu'.
06:34:57 <chandler> .u nu nu
06:34:58 <Monty2> "you"
06:34:58 <phenny> chandler: Sorry, no results for 'nu nu'.
06:35:01 <sbp> hmm. what was the one that xover uses?
06:35:07 <sbp> .u sym nu
06:35:08 <phenny> U+2400 SYMBOL FOR NULL (␀)
06:35:12 <sbp> BAD
06:35:25 <chandler> .u nu skool
06:35:26 <phenny> chandler: Sorry, no results for 'nu skool'.
06:37:13 <sbp> hehe: น
06:37:15 <sbp> .u น
06:37:16 <phenny> U+0E19 THAI CHARACTER NO NU (น)
06:37:23 <sbp> I think xover just uses a capital nu
06:37:27 <sbp> .u gr cap nu
06:37:27 <phenny> U+039D GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU (Ν)
06:37:29 <cre8radix> sbp: http://cre8radix.net/audio/tad_superior.wav
06:37:33 <cre8radix> here's your tad
06:38:12 <sbp> cre8radix: bwahaha. Lord Thanklingtons of Thankyoushire
06:38:19 <cre8radix> hrhr
06:38:21 <cre8radix> http://incredimazing.com/page/Its_the_hat
06:38:30 <sbp> _bjoern: Νν
06:38:49 <sbp> lolhat
06:39:17 <cre8radix> Social {PIC} Collective
06:39:19 <cre8radix> nice
06:40:43 <_bjoern> Νนν
06:41:25 <_bjoern> good hat pix
06:41:32 <sbp> nju
06:41:46 <_bjoern> .gc "Sauerkraut Sauerkraut Sauerkraut"
06:41:47 <phenny> "Sauerkraut Sauerkraut Sauerkraut": 1,310
06:42:11 <sbp> nͧ
06:42:19 <sbp> .u nͧ
06:42:19 <phenny> U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N (n)
06:42:20 <phenny> U+0367 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER U (◌ͧ)
06:42:41 <chandler> .u combining nu
06:42:47 <phenny> chandler: Sorry, no results for 'combining nu'.
06:43:02 <chandler> aw
06:43:17 <_bjoern> Hmm I'm pretty sure the line is in The Great Dictator but none of the hits hint at that.
06:43:19 <sbp> hmm, ԉ looks kinda nuish
06:43:32 <_bjoern> .gc nͧ
06:43:33 <phenny> nͧ: 3,860,000,000
06:44:42 <sbp> ഡ!
06:45:16 <darobin> .time PST
06:45:34 <sbp> yo darobin
06:45:37 <sbp> .t PST
06:45:37 <phenny> Mon, 19 May 2008 10:15:31 PST
06:45:38 <darobin> yo!
06:45:42 <_bjoern> I so roxx now that I found out about ALT+SHIFT+X, which turns character into hex code point num.
06:45:44 <darobin> ah, ta
06:45:50 <sbp> also ໙
06:45:57 <sbp> nice
06:46:11 <_bjoern> Especially considering that ALT+X does the reverse.
06:46:25 <_bjoern> yo darobin
06:46:46 <darobin> yo _bjoern
06:47:52 <sbp> .u ᴝᴜ
06:47:52 <phenny> U+1D1D (No name found)
06:47:53 <phenny> U+1D1C (No name found)
06:48:00 <sbp> ooh
06:48:16 <sbp> hmm
06:49:35 <sbp> ooh, this is like an interlocked nu:
06:49:40 <sbp> .u new shequel sign
06:49:41 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results for 'new shequel sign'.
06:49:46 <sbp> .u new sheqel sign
06:49:46 <phenny> U+20AA NEW SHEQEL SIGN (₪)
06:49:47 <Monty2> "you"
06:50:34 <xover> .u Νν
06:50:35 <Monty2> "you"
06:50:35 <phenny> U+039D GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU (Ν)
06:50:36 <phenny> U+03BD GREEK SMALL LETTER NU (ν)
06:51:03 <sbp> ⤵
06:51:06 <sbp> ↓
06:51:10 <sbp> ↓
06:51:15 <sbp> ⇊
06:51:17 <sbp> ⇊
06:51:23 <sbp> ⇓
06:51:24 <sbp> HELLOS
06:51:28 <xover> *splat*
06:51:29 <sbp> ⇧
06:51:40 <xover> .u splat
06:51:42 <phenny> xover: Sorry, no results for 'splat'.
06:51:47 <xover> meh. bad unicode
06:51:54 <sbp> ⊛
06:52:41 <sbp> shame newline isn't new uline or something
06:52:48 <sbp> otherwise  would be winful
06:53:07 <sbp> ⓃⓊ
06:53:23 <sbp> ╭╮╰╯
06:53:40 <sbp> ◠◡
06:54:05 <xover> .u ◠
06:54:07 <phenny> U+25E0 UPPER HALF CIRCLE (◠)
06:54:20 <xover> .u upp half circ with nipple
06:54:22 <phenny> xover: Sorry, no results for 'upp half circ with nipple'.
06:54:34 <xover> bad unicode
06:54:51 <_bjoern> .gc ␀ ␁ ␂ ␃ ␄ ␅ ␆ ␇ ␈ ␉ ␊ ␋ ␌ ␍ ␎ ␏ ␐ ␑ ␒ ␓ ␔ ␕ ␖ ␗ ␘ ␙ ␚ ␛ ␜ ␝ ␞ ␟ ␠ ␡
06:54:52 <phenny> ␀ ␁ ␂ ␃ ␄ ␅ ␆ ␇ ␈ ␉ ␊ ␋ ␌ ␍ ␎ ␏ ␐ ␑ ␒ ␓ ␔ ␕ ␖ ␗ ␘ ␙ ␚ ␛ ␜ ␝ ␞ ␟ ␠ ␡: 0
06:55:45 <_bjoern> ␎ ␟ ␘ ␛?
06:56:16 <sbp> .u ␎␟
06:56:16 <phenny> U+240E SYMBOL FOR SHIFT OUT (␎)
06:56:17 <phenny> U+241F SYMBOL FOR UNIT SEPARATOR (␟)
06:56:22 <sbp> .u ␘␛
06:56:22 <Monty2> hmmm?
06:56:22 <phenny> U+2418 SYMBOL FOR CANCEL (␘)
06:56:22 <phenny> U+241B SYMBOL FOR ESCAPE (␛)
06:56:44 <sbp>
06:57:40 <sbp> 𐏊𐎻𐎨𐎥𐎦𐎚𐎛𐎫𐎬
06:59:11 <sbp> 𝈲𝈈𝈋
06:59:29 <sbp> 𝑵𝑼𝑲 𝑵𝑼𝑲
06:59:48 <sbp> 𝖓𝖚
07:00:02 <xover> .u 𝑵𝑼𝑲
07:00:02 <phenny> U+1D475 MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL N (𝑵)
07:00:03 <Monty2> "you"
07:00:03 <phenny> U+1D47C MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL U (𝑼)
07:00:04 <phenny> U+1D472 MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL K (𝑲)
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07:00:15 <xover> .u bold italic capital
07:00:17 <phenny> xover: Sorry, no results for 'bold italic capital'.
07:00:23 <xover> .u * bold italic capital
07:00:24 <phenny> ValueError: Broken regexp: '* BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/codepoints.py", line 58, in codepoint_extended)
07:00:27 <xover> meh
07:00:35 <xover> .u m bold italic capital
07:00:36 <phenny> xover: Sorry, no results for 'm bold italic capital'.
07:00:48 <sbp> lol @ ur regexp
07:00:56 <_bjoern> ␘␐
07:00:56 <sbp> iz brkn
07:01:00 <chandler> .u . bold italic capital
07:01:01 <phenny> U+1D468 MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL A (𝑨)
07:01:02 <phenny> U+1D469 MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL B (𝑩)
07:01:03 <phenny> U+1D46A MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL C (𝑪) [...]
07:01:34 <chandler> I wonder if it's irssi or screen screwing up unicode for me.
07:01:41 <sbp> both?
07:01:57 <_bjoern> .gc subcanus emspack socrus delcan porn
07:01:57 <phenny> subcanus emspack socrus delcan porn: 0
07:02:00 <sbp> I once tried to make irssi and screen work on two identical setups
07:02:02 <sbp> and one didn't work
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07:02:17 <sbp> I diffed the env, checked all the configs carefully, all kinds of stuff
07:02:28 <sbp> yet one of the systems persisted in not working
07:02:35 <chandelier> .u nu
07:02:35 <phenny> U+A193 YI SYLLABLE NU (ꆓ)
07:02:43 <chandelier> hm. irssi definitely isn't working by itself
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07:02:53 <sbp> LOOK IN TEH SKY
07:02:57 <sbp> IT'S PUN MAN
07:03:15 <sbp> I miss pun man
07:04:27 <_bjoern> bicycle repair man had to kill em.
07:04:36 <sbp> WHOO
07:05:01 <sbp> ALSO
07:05:03 <sbp> CAPS
07:05:04 <sbp> ARE
07:05:06 <sbp> *AWESOME*
07:05:18 <sbp> though like
07:05:23 <sbp> have you ever used caps
07:05:26 <sbp> and you're typing along
07:05:35 <sbp> and suddenly, you want to shift into SUPERCAPS?
07:05:42 <sbp> because that's annoying when you want to do that
07:06:06 <sbp> caps actually obviate any possibility of capsjokes
07:06:11 <sbp> ironically enough
07:06:32 <sbp> OF COURSE YOU CAN DO *THIS*
07:06:36 <sbp> but that's lame
07:06:54 <xover> 𝑵𝑼!
07:06:59 <sbp> omg
07:07:01 <chandler> that's what the mathematical bold italic capital letters are for
07:07:13 <sbp> awesom!e
07:07:42 <sbp> SO LIKE I CAN DO 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦 NOW!
07:07:48 <sbp> actually that just displays it smaller for me
07:07:52 <xover> 𝑵o 𝑼!
07:08:00 <sbp> OR 𝙏𝙃𝙄𝙎
07:08:06 <sbp> yeah, the italibold is better
07:08:20 <sbp> 𝚴𝚶 𝚞
07:08:51 <xover> Sooo making an IRC client plugin for this!
07:09:11 <sbp> 𝔻𝕆𝕌𝔹𝕃𝔼 𝕊𝕋𝕌𝕂 𝕀𝕊 𝔾𝕆𝕆𝔻 𝕋𝕆𝕆
07:09:18 <sbp> though I'm missing some of the glyphs
07:09:25 <sbp> e.g. R and C
07:09:47 <xover> .u 𝕆
07:09:47 <phenny> U+1D546 MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL O (𝕆)
07:09:47 <Monty2> "you"
07:09:48 <Monty2> "you"
07:09:53 <clsn> They're down in the BMP.
07:09:58 <xover> @MATHEMATICAL++
07:10:10 <clsn> DOuble-struck C and R are common enough that they're in Letterlike Symbols.
07:10:14 <clsn> .u DOUBLE STRUCK
07:10:14 <Monty2> .c three lulz in Europe: This gets really hate preparing food
07:10:15 <phenny> Monty2: Sorry, no result.
07:10:16 <phenny> U+2102 DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL C (ℂ)
07:10:18 <Monty2> unless i always been LYING TO YOU imagine?
07:10:31 <_bjoern> OMG MONTY2
07:10:34 <Monty2> *shrug* are right. Background is missing something is!
07:11:26 <sbp> NnÑñŃńŅņŇňǸǹɴᴺṄṅṆṇṈṉṊṋⁿℕ⒩ⓃⓝＮｎ𝐍UuÙÚÛÜùúûüŨũŪūŬŮůŰűŲųƯưǓǔǕǖǗǘǙǚǛǜȔȕȖȗᵁᵘᵤṲṳṴṵ
07:11:50 <sbp> clsn: ah! thanks
07:12:01 <clsn> I think N is there too.
07:12:05 <clsn> And probably Z.
07:12:15 <sbp> NnÑñŃńŅņŇňṄṅṆṇṈṉUuÙÚÛÜùŮůŰűŲųƯưǓǔǕǖǗǘǙ
07:12:21 <clsn> .u double-struck capital z
07:12:21 <phenny> U+2124 DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL Z (ℤ)
07:13:25 <chandler> mm. dpkg-reconfigure locales seems to be doing something I need for UTF-8 workingness
07:14:30 <sbp> ᴺᵁ
07:15:03 <sbp> ⒩ᵤ
07:15:24 <sbp> unicode: now with 160% happyfun
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07:16:32 <chandler> ℕℕ
07:16:38 <chandler> oops
07:16:42 <sbp> pwnd
07:16:45 <chandler> ℕ∪
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07:16:54 <bancus> what's the command to search for unicode chars?
07:17:02 <chandler> .u natural numbers
07:17:05 <phenny> chandler: Sorry, no results for 'natural numbers'.
07:17:17 <chandler> .c ℕ
07:17:18 <phenny> chandler: Sorry, no result.
07:17:25 <sbp> bancus: little flag thing in the menu icons tray -> Show Character Palette
07:17:27 <chandler> ?
07:17:37 <bancus> What?
07:17:52 <_bjoern> .gcs "Das traue ich mir nicht" "Das traue ich mir nicht zu"
07:17:52 <sbp> oh, right. .u for phenny
07:17:52 <bancus> I want to search the descriptions.
07:17:53 <Monty2> "you"
07:17:53 <phenny> "Das traue ich mir nicht" (4,090), "Das traue ich mir nicht zu" (2,530)
07:18:15 <sbp> descriptions? the names like DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL C?
07:18:16 <_bjoern> grep UnicodeData.txt
07:19:05 <bancus> .u crossbones
07:19:06 <phenny> U+2620 SKULL AND CROSSBONES (☠)
07:19:25 <sbp> chandler: .c is calculator
07:19:27 <bancus> .u bomb
07:19:28 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'bomb'.
07:19:32 <bancus> Damn.
07:19:34 <sbp> you can use .u for both name and char lookups
07:19:35 <_bjoern> .wik Totenschädel
07:19:37 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Totenschädel".
07:19:40 <bancus> .u explosion
07:19:40 <_bjoern> usux
07:19:43 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'explosion'.
07:19:47 <bancus> .u explode
07:19:48 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'explode'.
07:19:49 <sbp> ℕ∪
07:20:13 <_bjoern> check out the pix on http://www.google.com/search?q=totenschädel
07:20:15 <bancus> .u spiral
07:20:16 <Monty2> "you"
07:20:16 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'spiral'.
07:20:25 <bancus> I guess only one character out of fine.
07:20:30 <bancus> I don't even know how to describe the last one.
07:20:35 <bancus> http://www.kmfdm.net/discography/albums/symbols.htm
07:20:42 <bancus> Trying to see if I could encode that album title in Unicode.
07:21:01 <sbp> _bjoern: == lolskulls?
07:21:29 <sbp> bancus: any bigger photos of it?
07:21:36 <_bjoern> yeah need bigpix
07:21:43 <bancus> The symbols are right there above the album art.
07:21:57 <_bjoern> they are not BIIIIIIIIIGGG
07:22:33 <thelsdj> hmm, 13% of my main clients website users are from california
07:22:34 <_bjoern> on the right could be a fist smashing something
07:22:35 <sbp> _bjoern: http://www.kmfdmrecords.com/street/wallpapers/symbols_2048x1536.jpg
07:22:37 <sbp> it's a fist
07:22:39 <sbp> yeah
07:23:44 <clsn> I think I once started a proposal for the symbols that make up the title of Led Zep IV.
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07:23:56 <chandlernu> .u union
07:23:58 <phenny> U+222A UNION (∪)
07:23:59 <sbp> aww yeah: http://www.jrrtolkien.org.uk/Images/bagendmap.jpg
07:24:03 <sbp> clsn: ooh!
07:24:15 <chandlernu> cool, now let's try under screen
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07:24:29 <clsn> To improve the Rockin' quotient of Unicode.
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07:24:45 <chandlernu> .u skull
07:24:46 <phenny> U+2620 SKULL AND CROSSBONES (☠)
07:24:58 <sbp> lolboston: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/boston_societies_1880.jpg
07:25:11 <sbp> lolbirds: http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/sortsolsum-05042006-hw.jpg
07:25:21 <sbp> prbly starlings ftw
07:26:31 <sbp> clsn: did you see the page explaining the source of Jimmy's sigil, by the way?
07:26:43 <_bjoern> biiiiig pix
07:26:43 <thelsdj> WOOOOOOO
07:26:43 <clsn> I thinks somwhere along the line I did.
07:26:46 <sbp> clsn: http://www.inthelight.co.nz/ledzep/zososymbol.htm
07:26:49 <thelsdj> webmonkey back FTW!
07:26:54 <sbp> well it's been updated within the past N years
07:27:03 <sbp> so even if you saw it a while ago, worth chexing out again
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07:27:14 <thelsdj> i wonder if they kept all the old content
07:27:21 <sbp> skip to like half way for new content
07:27:29 <_bjoern> I remember using this software http://www.inthelight.co.nz/ledzep/images/pagechart.gif
07:27:39 <sbp> awesome
07:27:43 <clsn> sbp: I think so. I got Koch's book.
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07:29:45 <sbp> yeah, I have too
07:29:57 <sbp> I also Gettings though
07:30:00 <sbp> betcha ain't got that!
07:30:06 <sbp> +have
07:30:16 * sbp rummages about for it, it's in PDF
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07:31:38 <chandler> .u union
07:31:38 <phenny> U+222A UNION (∪)
07:32:11 <chandler> argh. figure out how to set it up and then forget to export LC_CTYPE
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07:32:59 <chandler> .u union
07:33:00 <phenny> U+222A UNION (∪)
07:33:02 <sbp> ¯¯¯¶®ÂÔ̊Ô ̰
07:33:05 <chandler> ah. all better
07:33:16 <sbp> ôî˝ôî˝¯¯¶¯¯˙̄
07:33:25 <_bjoern> .u neg
07:33:25 <Monty2> "you"
07:33:26 <phenny> U+B125 HANGUL SYLLABLE NEG (넥)
07:33:27 <sbp> (((㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡㋡)))
07:33:35 <_bjoern> ur .u sux
07:33:40 <sbp> nu!
07:33:43 <sbp> .u nega
07:33:44 <Monty2> "you"
07:33:44 <phenny> U+24EB NEGATIVE CIRCLED NUMBER ELEVEN (⓫)
07:33:44 <Monty2> (...I need any one easier:
07:34:30 <chandler> now to be finding fixed-width font with good Unicode coverage
07:34:53 <sbp> chandler: Everson Mono
07:35:28 <sbp> №Âê№ ̰â№Âêâ№Ê—㋡â˚㋡咒㋡î¡㋡咒£¨¡û¨´¡£î˝˛ôî˜ôî˜˛˚˝˜˚˜˚̋Î̆Î̆ÔŶ̆ÔÛŶ̆ÎÛ̆Ŷ˙•̱̋˙•Į̂ÎǪ̂№î№î№®ôâ№Êîß˚˝—㋡˚ß—®咒˝®˚˚咒˚—㋡ß
07:36:42 <sbp> shame there's no way to set font precedences
07:37:01 <chandler> all of those seem covered in DejaVu
07:37:05 <sbp> so if you have a glyph in three different, but non-primary, fonts, you should be able to rank them so that it chooses the font you like most
07:37:06 <chandler> .u double struck n
07:37:06 <phenny> U+2115 DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL N (ℕ)
07:37:09 <chandler> that one isn't
07:37:26 <sbp> also, some kind of serif/sans-serif smart grouping
07:37:35 <sbp> though perhaps it already does that
07:39:04 <chandler> oh, ech. I can't use Everson Mono. no dot or slash on the 0.
07:39:18 <procto> everson mono is just generally disgusting
07:39:59 <sbp> good coveragebunnies though
07:40:25 <chandler> right, it'd be nice as a fallback for DejaVu
07:40:32 <sbp> yeah
07:40:33 <Monty2> Ooog... I'm sorry, realised that lasagna invariably comes out. lol @ cafe) to uniformly explain this ends up smoking agai and recruit some muppet a cat inside the presence as classics
07:40:46 <sbp> m'hmm
07:40:58 <chandler> Monty2's been reading Garfield again.
07:41:01 <Monty2> You don't know how to slap Mao Zedong's pornography!
07:41:06 <sbp> ha
07:41:44 <chandler> .title http://www.dougshaw.com/garfield.html
07:41:45 <phenny> chandler: The Eagle_Fire Garfield Randomizer
07:42:02 <sbp> yeah
07:42:06 <sbp> what's even with Garfield?
07:42:15 <sbp> I don't think I've heard a single person say that they like it
07:42:22 <sbp> did it ever used to be good?
07:43:03 <chandler> I remember liking it when I was 8 years old, so either it was good then or I was young and stupid. Probably more of the latter.
07:44:08 <chandler> also, http://www.truthandbeautybombs.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4997
07:46:53 <procto> re-link: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/
07:47:15 <procto> those are wonderful
07:47:26 <chandler> ah yes, all I could find is the tabb thread which started it
07:47:28 <chandler> my google fu needs work
07:47:39 * procto searched for "garfield without garfield"
07:47:41 <procto> first result
07:47:46 <procto> no quotes
07:47:56 <sbp> guys, guys
07:47:59 <sbp> don't squabble
07:48:13 <sbp> (I know you weren't, but I wanted to say that)
07:48:53 <_bjoern> I like the accordion
07:49:00 <sbp> damn, now I want to say it again
07:49:06 <procto> although not really analogous
07:49:13 <procto> I prefer quibble to squabble
07:49:21 <procto> as far as "qu-b" words go
07:49:37 <procto> though squabble has that pleasing "s" in the frontal position
07:49:38 <chandler> .gc squibble
07:49:47 <sbp> quogbox would be a fun word
07:49:55 <sbp> quimblum
07:49:58 <procto> the mid frontal vowel in quibble really does it for me
07:50:07 <procto> a bit like "quiff" versus "quaff"
07:50:13 <phenny> squibble: 20,000
07:50:14 <procto> the latter being a relatively respectable word
07:50:23 <sbp> you know about the reduplication vowel length thing right?
07:50:26 <procto> the former being amusing
07:50:36 <procto> sbp: maybe? what thing?
07:50:54 <procto> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squibble
07:51:02 <procto> much disagreement
07:51:33 <sbp> procto: not sure what paper I'm thinking of, but try http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:www.phil.muni.cz/angl/bse/archive/BSE_24_04.pdf
07:52:05 <sbp> there's also http://www.jstor.org/pss/455746
07:52:06 <sbp> .title
07:52:08 <phenny> sbp: Cookie Absent
07:52:12 <sbp> BAD
07:52:18 <sbp> Stress in Reduplicative Compounds: Mish-Mash or Hocus-Pocus?
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07:56:32 <procto> sbp: which of the various vowel things are you refering to?
07:57:52 <sbp> mainly just the fact that front, close, high vowels tend to come first in reduplicated words where the vowel in the second word is different
07:57:54 <sbp> ding-dong
07:57:58 <sbp> mish-mash
07:58:04 <sbp> piffle-paffle
07:59:26 <sbp> (I dunno why I note this, either)
07:59:39 <sbp> (just reminded me of it, with your quiff-quaff)
07:59:40 <procto> ah, I see what you mean
08:00:09 <procto> for me, saying "ee-ah" is easier than "ah-ee"
08:00:21 <sbp> yeah. why though?
08:00:26 <procto> I think because in the former you are relaxing your cheek muscles
08:00:28 <procto> while vocalizing
08:00:38 <procto> while in the second, you have to strain them during the vocalization
08:00:52 <sbp> ah. it's the *whilst* vocalising bit which is important... gotcha
08:00:55 <procto> that's an utterly uninformed guess, but it makes sense to me :>
08:01:01 <sbp> ayup
08:01:09 <sbp> let's go with it
08:01:49 <sbp> I suppose this is why Pingu isn't called Poongi
08:02:14 <procto> I don't know much phonology/phonetics, and know only the basics of optimality theory
08:02:25 <procto> but I think that muscle stress patterns during vocaliztions would be a constraint
08:02:39 <procto> when I speak to my parents and brother
08:02:49 <procto> I code-switch 3+ languages
08:02:53 <procto> the core 2 being hebrew and russian
08:03:16 <_bjoern> http://media.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO7n20jmsrD584BCO_500.png
08:03:17 <procto> the word I pick seems to have the least muscles stressing during vocalization
08:07:53 <procto> I'm a walking multi-lingualism laboratory :>
08:07:58 <procto> it's hard to experiment on yourself, though
08:08:08 <procto> still I try
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08:08:50 <_bjoern> http://media.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO7bnhgawuN3DGe0Z_500.png
08:09:39 <chandler> http://media.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO8pfgfal14PRvnGL_500.gif is my favorite so far
08:09:49 <chandler> Jim Davis is a kinky man
08:11:18 <chandler> also, this discussion wiould not be complete without
08:11:20 <chandler> .title http://www.lasagnacat.com/
08:11:21 <phenny> chandler: Lasagna Cat
08:12:59 <_bjoern> .gc "Für Elise"
08:13:00 <phenny> "Für Elise": 1,040,000
08:13:34 <thelsdj> .gc "fur elise"
08:13:35 <phenny> "fur elise": 1,040,000
08:16:36 <_bjoern> .gc "+fur elise"
08:16:37 <phenny> "+fur elise": 769,000
08:17:07 <_bjoern> .gc "+für elise"
08:17:08 <phenny> "+für elise": 267,000
08:17:11 <bancus> .gc "furry elise"
08:17:12 <phenny> "furry elise": 137
08:17:16 <bancus> .gc "furry lisa"
08:17:17 <phenny> "furry lisa": 368
08:17:23 <_bjoern> .gc "furry lise"
08:17:24 <phenny> "furry lise": 10
08:17:28 <sbp> .gc "For Lisa"
08:17:29 <phenny> "For Lisa": 777,000
08:20:12 <jsled> .u …
08:20:12 <phenny> U+2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS (…)
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08:25:48 <cre8radix> re:join
08:26:36 <cre8radix> http://incredimazing.com/page/Fail
08:26:39 <cre8radix> hrhr
08:27:47 <cre8radix> http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/000016.html
08:34:18 <thelsdj> ha, someone released a linux distro along with the line '...recently announced a new linux distribution aptly named Exherbo'
08:34:28 <thelsdj> but people are having a hell of a time figuring out why thats 'aptly'
08:34:40 <thelsdj> google came up with Exherbo meaning 'to weed' in latin
08:34:57 <bancus> does the line begin with "A bunch of stoners..."?
08:35:26 <bancus> And it would be "I weed"
08:35:34 <bancus> Being conjugated and all.
08:36:43 <thelsdj> he used to be a gentoo developer, so a stoner? probably
08:36:53 <thelsdj> what else are you going to do waiting for your system to recompile
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08:48:59 <shminux> sbp: does phenny scrape synonym.com?
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09:01:32 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp EARTHLIGHTS! http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4
09:01:32 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
09:02:28 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp be sure to check out the links in the video description
09:02:28 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
09:09:49 <_bjoern> yes http://incredimazing.com/static/media/2008/02/05/6bcfa2f76dc09ea/photo5av.jpg
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09:16:12 <chandler> .gc "furry lice"
09:16:15 <phenny> "furry lice": 11
09:16:34 <_bjoern> .gc "führ elise"
09:16:34 <phenny> "führ elise": 190
09:20:08 <chandler> http://books.google.com/books?q=%22furry+lice%22&btnG=Search+Books
09:20:27 <chandler> "By my beak, those furry lice won't take me alive!"
09:21:17 <_bjoern> .gd lice
09:21:17 <phenny> lice: Lice (singular: louse), also known as fly babies, (order Phthiraptera) are an order of over 3,000 species of wingless phthiraptra. ...
09:22:19 <_bjoern> nslater: I believe those are FSM offspring.
09:23:24 <_bjoern> hmm http://incredimazing.com/page/Civil_War_Banners
09:25:29 <chandler> _bjoern: I like "I'm With Vera"
09:27:00 <_bjoern> Firefly fan?
09:28:21 <thelsdj> I'm with Veronica Mars
09:28:23 <chandler> Yes, completely.
09:28:42 <_bjoern> lol ur series pwnd
09:31:19 <zachb> I iz here
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09:34:43 <Monty2> Speak of the devil, it's nsh!
09:35:02 <nsh> .ety autism
09:35:07 <phenny> "Ger. Autismus, coined 1912 by Swiss psychiatrist Paul Bleuler (1857-1939) from Gk. autos- 'self' (comb. form) + -ismos suffix of action or of state." - http://etymonline.com/?term=autism
09:38:14 <nsh> .wik Chartists
09:38:15 <phenny> "Chartism was a movement for political and social reform in the United Kingdom during the mid-19th century between 1838 and 1848." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartists
09:41:14 * nsh forays into psychogeography once more
09:47:49 <zachb> What's that?
09:47:57 <zachb> Is that when cities are crazy?
09:48:32 <zachb> My uncle used to be crazy... then he took some medicine and lies in bed all day with his friends by his side... I wish I had friends
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09:54:27 <nsh> .wik psychogeography
09:55:25 <phenny> "Psychogeography was defined in 1955 by Guy Debord as the 'the study of the precise laws and specific effects of the geographical environment, consciously organized or not, on the emotions and behavior of individuals.'[1]| A more straightforward definition is 'a [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogeography
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11:33:04 <Monty> hey nwalsh
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11:41:02 <Roey> hi
11:41:03 <Roey> procto: hi
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11:57:28 <_bjoern> Hello Roey, welcome to the publically logged wonderworld of swhack. Visit swhack.com for considerable confusion.
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12:01:40 <_bjoern> .title http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/19/downloading-women-rights
12:01:42 <phenny> _bjoern: Women's rights downloads land Afghan student the death penalty - The INQUIRER
12:01:53 <_bjoern> Good we liberated them.
12:02:26 <_bjoern> "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf," he said. "I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal." - GWB.
12:02:41 <_bjoern> .title http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/16/bush-lied-about-giving-up_n_102138.html
12:02:42 <Roey> _bjoern: :)
12:02:43 <phenny> _bjoern: Bush Lied About Giving Up Golf: Video Proof - Politics on The Huffington Post
12:03:51 <clsn> There was a lot of fun made in the comics about the "giving up golf" story... *shrug*. Actually for a change I think it wasn't such a ridiculous thing to do. Though there's no way to say it without sounding stupid.
12:04:37 <clsn> It doesn't actually make up for anything, "solidarity" is too strong a word... but he's right; at least he shouldn't be seen goofing around.
12:04:49 <_bjoern> It's funnier in german where we call the Gulf Wars "Golfkrieg" and golf Golf.
12:06:11 <clsn> Heh. True. That is funnier.
12:08:01 <^valis^> .title http://gizmodo.com/391736/steve-ballmer-egged-in-hungary
12:08:02 <clsn> Hmm. 2 months after the bombing... I'm actually even for this willing to cut him some slack.
12:08:03 <phenny> ^valis^: Steve Ballmer: Steve Ballmer Egged in Hungary!
12:08:15 <clsn> (and I have no known love for the man)
12:08:59 <clsn> He said he made the decision "after the bombing". I'm not going to get pedantic and say that it could have been ANY time after, but a month or two to come to that decision--with the bombing still the primary motivation--isn't unreasonable.
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12:10:18 <clsn> 'Sides, this is hardly the most ridiculous thing he's done. :)
12:12:59 <Roey> I want to throw lesbians into this discussion somehow.
12:13:16 <Roey> But the lipstick variety ones, not the boots-and-vest kind.
12:14:19 <clsn> Sounds good to me. Lesbians can perk up any discussion.
12:14:57 <clsn> So long as you're throwing them, though, throw them in chocolate first. Lesbians are good, but chocolate-coated lesbians are better.
12:15:58 <_bjoern> If boots and vest is all they wear...
12:16:13 <bancus> @clsn++
12:16:21 <Roey> clsn: :)
12:16:43 <Roey> Chocolate-covered lesbians with bunny ears duking it out in jelly.
12:16:54 <Roey> ooh!
12:17:04 <Roey> perfect segue for my (old) art:
12:17:12 <Roey> http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/art/lesbians/
12:17:21 <clsn> .title
12:17:21 <phenny> clsn: Index of /mystuff/art/lesbians
12:17:32 <clsn> OK, unhelpful title.
12:17:39 <_bjoern> that's the bunny kind.
12:18:27 <Roey> hee hee
12:18:43 <Roey> my favorite drawing is http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/art/multiplex-me4.jpg
12:19:04 <Roey> I need to get my wacom tablet working under kubuntu 8.04...arg.
12:19:06 <Roey> wacom intuos
12:19:08 <_bjoern> muscles turn you on apparently
12:19:10 <Roey> (doesn't work)
12:19:13 <Roey> _bjoern: very much so
12:19:19 <Roey> _bjoern: other stuff too
12:19:50 <_bjoern> i have a wacom ... ... ctf-420 (/g)
12:19:56 <Roey> oh?
12:19:58 <Roey> what'sthat?
12:20:19 <_bjoern> a Volito2 apparently
12:20:25 <Roey> error: joke lost on brain://Roey/whitematter
12:20:28 <Roey> ah
12:20:32 <Roey> ok, volito2... gotcha
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12:20:45 <_bjoern> seems there are linux drivers for it allright
12:20:55 <Roey> yeah but it's not a driver issue here with me
12:20:58 <Roey> it's a udev issue.
12:21:01 <Roey> wrong udev rules.
12:21:03 <Roey> No fix, no go.
12:21:04 <Roey> :P
12:21:05 <Roey> brb
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12:56:50 <zachb> Argh
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12:56:55 <zachb> I need a backwards dictionary
12:58:08 <_bjoern> That goes from a definition to a word?
12:58:23 <_bjoern> Why not just take any dict and implement the search algorithm correctly?
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13:43:50 <BigJibby> .u FDD0
13:43:51 <phenny> U+FDD0 (No name found)
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15:27:40 <jsled> Hey wow FF3rc1 doesn't crash every 10 goddamned minutes.
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15:52:05 <Morbus> .c 31089/1126545*100
15:52:06 <phenny> (31 089 / 1 126 545) * 100 = 2.75967671
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17:44:54 <xover> furfag
17:45:06 <RobotGuy> fuirball
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21:10:19 <cre8radix> http://gizmodo.com/391794/flying-rc-penis-disrupts-garry-kasparov-speech
21:11:02 <cre8radix> moin
21:17:59 <sbp> yo
21:17:59 <phenny> sbp: 19 May 20:31Z <nslater> tell sbp EARTHLIGHTS! http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4
21:18:01 <phenny> sbp: 19 May 20:32Z <nslater> tell sbp be sure to check out the links in the video description
21:19:21 <sbp> you wouldn't believe how many hits I'm getting for earthquake lights
21:19:39 <sbp> seems to be about 85% of my traffic right now
21:23:06 <sbp> the only thing people seem to have reported an actual link to is this cloud formation though
21:23:21 <sbp> which is interesting, but non-EQL
21:23:27 <cre8radix> O_o
21:23:32 <sbp> yo cre8radix
21:23:40 <cre8radix> yo sbp, my bro
21:23:43 <cre8radix> :D
21:25:18 * cre8radix has to finally come across with his tax declarations
21:25:29 <cre8radix> hrhr
21:25:31 <cre8radix> suckage
21:25:42 <cre8radix> shoulda woulda
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21:30:30 <sbp> “After a Google user posted a profane picture of the Hindu saint Shivaji, Indian authorities contacted Google to ask for his IP address. Google complied. He was arrested and is reported to have been beaten by a lathi and asked to use the same bowl to eat and to use in the toilet. Not surprisingly, Google is a keen to play this down” - http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/05/19/148208.shtml
21:32:42 <sbp> “Draft legislation could outlaw any health claims in adverts for alcohol in Europe, she said.”
21:32:43 <sbp> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3266819.stm
21:32:46 <sbp> .title
21:32:48 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Health | Guinness good for you - official
21:32:58 <sbp> I hate this kind of stuff. legislation moves so much more slowly than science
21:33:12 <sbp> so it would seem odd to legislate against something that isn't fully studied yet
21:34:43 <sbp> “Two pilots have had a lucky escape after one light aircraft landed on top of another waiting to take off at a US airport.” - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/7406041.stm
21:36:53 <sbp> cool: http://www.jgc.org/blog/2008/05/breaking-fermilab-code.html
21:37:34 <sbp> ‘“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE”. Frank Shoemaker worked on the main ring of Fermilab. It seems very unlikely to me that this is coincidence.’ - http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/17/fermilabs-strange-letter-progress/
21:37:45 <sbp> .gc "FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE"
21:37:46 <phenny> "FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE": 8
21:49:52 <sbp> ‘For example, "Everyone is against me!", "Can't I be right just once?", "You're stupid!", "You are Racist!" or just the classic retort "Shut up!"’ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogy
21:56:34 <sbp> “In recent years, postmodernists have challenged the validity and need for the study of history on the basis that all history is based on the personal interpretation of sources.”
21:56:35 <sbp> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History
21:56:48 * sbp challenges the validity and need for postmodernism...
21:58:22 <sbp> “The other aspect, far more intensely debated among professional historians, is the controversy regarding history as science as opposed to history as art. Mainly historians of the Anglo Saxon tradition advocate the view that history should be about fact finding (and assessment about reliability of source materials), rather than narrative aspect of history.” - ibid.
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22:31:05 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missing_Shade_of_Blue - interesting. a question by Hume, which we would characterise in modern terms as: can we imagine qualia which we have not previously experieced?
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22:37:15 <_bjoern> .wik the missing shade of blue
22:37:16 <phenny> "The Missing Shade of Blue is an example introduced by the Scottish philosopher David Hume to show that it is at least conceivable that the mind can generate an idea without first being exposed to the relevant sensory experience." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missing_Shade_of_Blue
22:38:26 <_bjoern> ♥♥♥ HELLOZ _BJOERN ♥♥♥
22:39:36 * nslater scoffs at qualia
22:43:03 <nslater> sbp: I have a fairly good idea what I think octarine would look like, so I would answer yes to your question, though I am sure you might see it quite differently :p
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22:45:56 <nslater> .wik opponent process
22:45:56 <phenny> "The color opponent process is a color theory that states that the human visual system interprets information about color by processing signals from cones and rods in an antagonistic manner." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opponent_process
22:46:28 <nslater> [[[
22:46:29 <nslater> Under normal circumstances, there is no hue one could describe as a mixture of opponent hues; that is, as a hue looking "redgreen" or "yellowblue". However, in 1983 Crane and Piantanida[8] carried out an experiment proving that, under special viewing conditions involving the use of an eye tracker, it is apparently possible to override the opponency mechanisms and, for a moment, get some people to perceive novel colors:
22:46:35 <nslater> "[s]ome observers indicated that although they were aware that what they were viewing was a color (that is, the field was not achromatic), they were unable to name or describe the color. One of these observers was an artist with a large color vocabulary. Other observers of the novel hues described the first stimulus as a reddish-green."[9]
22:46:41 <nslater> ]]]
22:47:01 <nslater> wow
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22:48:53 <nslater> http://fns.unifr.ch/philocolor/Doc/reddish%20green,%2016.09.2005.pdf
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22:49:12 <nslater> [[[
22:49:13 <nslater> "A subject’s eyes are covered with the two halves of a ping-pong ball and the room is
22:49:16 <nslater> filled with a diffuse, shadowless colored light, pink for example. Within a couple of
22:49:19 <nslater> minutes’ time, the color fades completely from view; subjects frequently claim that the
22:49:22 <nslater> light has been turned off."
22:49:25 <nslater> ]]]
22:50:23 <sbp> yo _bjoern, nslater
22:50:26 <sbp> .wik Octarine
22:50:27 <phenny> "This article details minor Discworld concepts: concepts and ideas from the Discworld of novels by Terry Pratchett which only appear in the background, or are not well fleshed out." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octarine
22:50:34 <sbp> nslater: octarine?
22:50:47 <nslater> it's the colour of magic in the diskworld novels
22:50:50 <nslater> .wik octarine
22:50:51 <Monty> Quarterly is bored.
22:50:51 <phenny> "This article details minor Discworld concepts: concepts and ideas from the Discworld of novels by Terry Pratchett which only appear in the background, or are not well fleshed out." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octarine
22:50:59 <sbp> ô, a martian colour
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22:51:26 <sbp> I don't believe that fictional qualia can be imagined, no
22:51:34 <_bjoern> hmm http://www.openicon.org/
22:51:35 <_bjoern> .title
22:51:35 <nslater> but it's meant to be impossible to see for humans because of the opponent process, which lead me to the above wikipedia page describing the experiments that have enabled people to see new colours
22:51:36 <phenny> _bjoern: Icon Search Engine
22:51:37 <sbp> they can be conceived of, but not imagined in their characterwistics
22:51:47 * sbp looks
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22:52:22 <nslater> the pdf referenced in footnote 9 and linked in the channel is very interesting too
22:52:49 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opponent_process#Reddish_green_and_yellowish_blue
22:52:56 <sbp> aw man. shame there's no repeat of that online
22:52:59 <sbp> I wonder how they did it?
22:53:05 <sbp> oh, you quoted. heh
22:53:28 <nslater> hmm, repeat online?
22:53:31 * sbp downloads it
22:53:37 <nslater> ah, :)
22:53:37 <Monty> whorest (34,200), whorst whorest * bis zum
22:53:48 <sbp> I mean like a Flash tool or something which can repeat whatever they did
22:54:57 <nslater> yeah
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22:55:41 <sbp> oh, here we go:
22:55:42 <sbp> [[[
22:55:42 <sbp> The
22:55:43 <sbp> subjects were presented with a red and a green stripe on a black field, such that the red and
22:55:43 <sbp> green stripes have a common border. In both experiments the red-green field was stabilized
22:55:43 <sbp> with an eyetracker. This was done in order to provoke a filling-in process in which the
22:55:44 <sbp> information from the non-stabilized parts of the image, i.e. the edges between the black field
22:55:46 <sbp> and the red and green stripe, should be used. The idea is that the subjects perceive the
22:55:50 <sbp> outer edges of the red and green stripes but not the common red-green edge. In the
22:55:52 <sbp> experiments conducted by Billock et al. the two stripes were mixed to equiluminance for each
22:55:54 <sbp> subject.
22:55:58 <sbp> ]]]
22:56:04 <sbp> requires an eyetracker. bummer
22:56:28 <sbp> I wanna see reddish green! :-)
22:56:29 <_bjoern> Hire a poor student to track the eyes!
22:56:33 <sbp> hehe
22:56:49 <nslater> sbp: can you imagine what it would look like?
22:57:03 <_bjoern> reddish.
22:57:15 <nslater> and a bit greenish :)
22:57:26 <sbp> no
22:57:30 <_bjoern> of course not.
22:57:38 <nslater> I think I can...
22:58:24 <sbp> perhaps your brain is screwed up
22:58:54 <sbp> I mean, Type B synæsthesia operates more towards the conceptual-semantic level
22:58:55 <_bjoern> He's on #swhack regularily. Sure sign.
22:59:21 <sbp> if you had that, I presume you might be able to conceive of some concept which invokes a martian colour
22:59:29 <nslater> earlier you said to "imagine in their characteristics" but I think that is misleading. when I imagine chocolate cake right now, what I have in my head is a mix of emotions, feelings and memories, I do not have an acurate model of a cake, either in looks or taste or colours
22:59:35 <sbp> but I don't know if you could do it in a deterministic manner
22:59:35 <nslater> but I still say that I can imagine it
23:00:11 <sbp> I can imagine/recall the taste of a chocolate gateux very easily
23:00:16 <sbp> mmm... yummy
23:00:33 <sbp> it's as accurate a model as I can expect
23:00:49 <sbp> when I think about a song, I can remember its qualia very clearly too
23:00:50 <nslater> if by imagination you mean a faithful (if lossy) recreation of the taste, then no, I cannot do that
23:01:02 <sbp> only, in such a way as to distinguish them somehow from a current perception
23:01:07 <nslater> I cannot, no matter how hard I try, taste chocolate, by thinking about it
23:01:23 <sbp> right, you can't taste it
23:01:24 <nslater> I can hear music, but that's different, I think
23:01:28 <sbp> but you can remember the taste
23:01:34 <sbp> which is strongly coupled
23:01:34 <nslater> hmm, not _really_
23:01:58 <nslater> what does it mean to "remember" if you cant recreate the sensation
23:02:02 <_bjoern> Monty, save a lido today please.
23:02:04 <Monty> what's the conceptual-semantic level
23:02:10 <nslater> Monty: 9
23:02:11 <Monty> List of staring and sex
23:02:45 <sbp> to remember is to have the sensations of the original without the belief that it is currently happening
23:03:04 <nslater> so to remember the taste of chocolate is to have the taste sensations of chocolate?
23:03:33 <sbp> *without the belief that you are tasting chocolate*
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