2008-05-23 Swhack IRC Log

00:00:09 <sbp> we expected him to be here too, but there was a mixup at the paint factory
00:03:43 <nsh> we do have nerfdave though
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00:22:56 * nsh wonders what the median number of gods he'd have to pray to before clarance thomas is stuck dead by lightning
00:24:14 <nsh> .title http://www.amazon.com/tag/worst%20supreme%20court%20justice%20ever
00:24:16 <phenny> nsh: Amazon.com: worst supreme court justice ever
00:24:16 <Monty> line is: "and preventing it currently.
00:24:50 <nsh> though scalia is probably worse
00:25:00 <nsh> maybe if they were forced to duel to the death
00:25:09 <nsh> and the winner was mortally wounded
00:25:44 <Alex> I doubt the median number of gods would be struck by lightning
00:27:19 <nsh> less doubting, more sentence parsing practice
00:27:41 <nsh> :-)
00:28:32 <Alex> gb2highschool.
00:35:50 <sbp> Alex: Americanisms are illegal in the UK now
00:35:59 <sbp> since the Stop Arresting Our CEOs Act of 2008
00:36:18 <Alex> http://selbyhigh.n-yorks.sch.uk/ <--
00:36:42 <sbp> I did not say that the phrase was unused
00:36:46 <sbp> I said it was ILLEGALS
00:37:07 <Alex> Ah
00:37:08 <Alex> illegalzzz
00:37:19 <sbp> precisely
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00:45:18 <nsh> is that your school, Alex?
00:46:04 <nsh> are you the unhappy-looking blonde girl getting involuntarily hugged by the myspace-slapper-looking teaching assitant, perchance?
00:46:57 * Arnia wonders about removing Northumbria, North Yorkshire and Cumbria to allow Durham a bit more space
00:47:11 <Arnia> I'll start with North Yorkshire I think
00:47:51 * Arnia gets the plasma cannons ready and aimed at Darlo
00:48:55 <Alex> nsh: It was, a looong time ago :(
00:49:06 <Alex> nsh: Link which picture you meant? :)
00:49:25 <nsh> http://selbyhigh.n-yorks.sch.uk/Assets/photographs/Head/P1010523wht.gif
00:49:52 <Alex> Those are both Year 9 students, I gather
00:50:03 <Alex> and that's a nearly 2 meg image on the front page zo/
00:50:05 <Alex> \o/
00:50:30 * Arnia hums
00:50:52 * Arnia retargets the canons on the photo
00:50:54 * nsh lowers the current to Arnia
00:51:00 <Arnia> Uh... cannons as well
00:52:08 * nsh wouldn't mind targeting some canons
00:52:14 <nsh> and possibly a few cardinals
00:52:58 <Arnia> Depends which cardinals. I still feel sad that Cardinal Hume died and Murphy-O'Connor took over :(
00:53:13 * Arnia sighs wistfully
00:53:34 <Arnia> Anyway, I'm going to go sit on a balcony with a glass of pimms
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00:54:22 * nsh makes sad panda face
00:54:35 <nsh> it hasn't been pimms o'clock for nsh in a long time
00:55:07 <Arnia> In which case I'll spite you by buying a glass of pimms and then *not drinking it*
00:55:58 <nsh> eviilll
00:57:54 <Arnia> In fact, I'll let it get WARM
00:58:02 <Arnia> And I won't even touch the fruit!
00:58:18 * nsh storms off hysterically
00:58:33 <nsh> (also to check reactions)
00:58:49 <Alex> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2326962,00.html
00:58:53 * Arnia speculates whether or not it is possible to storm off oysterically
00:59:51 <Arnia> Right... JOE RUNS DSU BOUND
01:00:08 * Arnia buries the pimms in the middle of the dessert
01:00:11 <Arnia> Angel delight
01:06:53 <procto> morning
01:07:05 <sbp> surprise o'clock!
01:07:15 <procto> whoa what no
01:08:00 <sbp> today is arcane poetry day
01:09:24 <procto> define arcane
01:09:52 <procto> does it have to be old? or just fancy sounding
01:11:49 <procto> Arnia: you can storm off oistrakhally
01:12:07 <procto> Arnia: probably more pleasing
01:12:23 <sbp> arcane in that it's old and not many people have heard of it
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01:12:50 <procto> so I can pull out all my ugaritic poetry?
01:12:55 <sbp> yes!
01:13:05 <procto> I think I already did that here before
01:13:18 <procto> I have my old persian grammar somewhere around this room
01:13:24 <sbp> Yarih all under the table wandering around
01:13:28 <procto> it has some ancient persian poetry in it
01:13:31 <procto> yarr
01:13:37 <sbp> Athtart and Anat feeding him scrips and scraps
01:13:43 <procto> :)
01:13:49 <sbp> KTU 1.114 <3
01:14:27 <procto> I wrote my final on Anat
01:14:35 <sbp> cool. what points did you make?
01:15:01 <procto> I was mostly analyzing the way in which her violence is portrayed
01:15:08 <procto> there are specific things she likes to do
01:15:08 <Monty> comes from some movies on
01:15:19 <procto> she like to tear and crush her enemies mostly
01:15:31 <procto> and then wade through seas of blood
01:15:56 <sbp> “Anat appears as a wild and furious warrior in a battle, wading knee-deep in blood, striking off heads, cutting off hands, binding the heads to her torso and the hands in her sash, driving out the old men and townsfolk with her arrows, her heart filled with joy.”
01:16:01 <procto> she even threaten El that she will tear him into swall pieces
01:16:07 <sbp> wow
01:16:08 <sbp> swall?
01:16:12 <procto> small piecess
01:16:15 <sbp> aha
01:16:41 <procto> and scatter them everywhere
01:16:47 <procto> this is mostly in the Baal Cycle
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01:17:34 <sbp> the whole “the gods do such-and-such, and as an unintended consequence, various stuff happens to mankind" trope is kinda interesting
01:17:47 <sbp> reminds me of Titania's murrain flock speech in AMND for example
01:18:06 <procto> brb
01:18:11 <nsh> .wik Cosplay
01:18:12 <phenny> "The most specific anecdote about the origin of the word 'cosplay' was that Nov Takahashi (from a Japanese studio called Studio Hard) coined the term 'cosplay' as a contraction of the English-language words 'costume play' while attending the 1984 Los Angeles Science [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay
01:18:23 <sbp> Studio Hard!
01:18:40 <nsh> STUDIO-KOVA!
01:18:50 <sbp> whatbe kovaplz
01:18:57 <nsh> actually, in finnish it'd probably be compounded to studiokova
01:19:04 <sbp> omg lols
01:19:14 <sbp> in Russian isn't kova a forger
01:19:17 <sbp> I mean, like a smithy
01:19:27 <sbp> add question mark to flavour
01:19:47 <sbp> I wonder if there's some cognate nonsense going on there
01:19:56 <nsh> mmm
01:19:58 <sbp> smithys making new things
01:19:59 <nsh> i am the unno
01:21:17 <nsh> Käännökset
01:21:19 <nsh> * englanti: loud, fast, hard
01:21:20 <nsh> * venäjä (russian): громко
01:21:22 <nsh> -fi.wiktionary.org
01:21:40 <sbp> ...man, why did I start thinking kova meant new?
01:21:40 <nsh> (käänökset = translations)
01:21:48 <sbp> probably thinking of nova
01:21:52 <nsh> because of nova?
01:21:53 <nsh> mm
01:21:53 <procto> back
01:22:09 <procto> sbp: I like the way the Flood is initiated in Gilgamesh
01:22:15 <sbp> how's that?
01:22:18 <procto> the gods get all worked up and flood
01:22:24 <procto> and then go "oh shit oh shit oh shit"
01:22:29 <sbp> hehe
01:22:30 <procto> and can't stop it
01:22:47 <sbp> like when you accidentally paste a really big document into IRC
01:23:01 <nsh> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kova
01:23:05 <aspect> they don't get all poxy after do they
01:23:22 <aspect> and send a rainbow "oops sry kthx"
01:23:26 <sbp> I have to quote this list because it's awesome
01:23:27 <sbp> [[[
01:23:28 <sbp> 1. (object) hard
01:23:28 <sbp> 2. (person) hard, strict, harsh
01:23:28 <sbp> 3. (noise) loud
01:23:28 <sbp> 4. (blow) hard, heavy
01:23:28 <sbp> 5. (thirst) severe
01:23:30 <sbp> 6. (ammunition) live
01:23:32 <sbp> 7. (pornography) hardcore.
01:23:34 <sbp> ]]]
01:24:11 <procto> so, uh, what's her name, Ishtar
01:24:22 <procto> warns utnapishtim
01:24:24 <sbp> wow, the Semitic and the Egyptian gods got combined at once stage
01:24:43 <procto> semitic gods? I'm not sure I agree with that term
01:24:53 <aspect> sbp: Ishtart's been everywhere :-)
01:24:53 <procto> you mean Canaanite gods?
01:25:15 <procto> or are you lumping canaanite and assyrian together?
01:25:23 <procto> because I would disagree
01:25:39 <sbp> wow, and Adonis is from the Levant too
01:25:53 <sbp> procto:
01:25:53 <sbp> [[[
01:25:54 <sbp> Anat first appears in Egypt in the 16th dynasty (the Hyksos period) along with other northwest Semitic deities. She was especially worshipped in her aspect of a war goddess, often paired with the goddess `Ashtart. In the Contest Between Horus and Set, these two goddesses appear as daughters of Re and are given in marriage to the god Set, who had been identified with the Semitic god Hadad.
01:25:54 <sbp> ]]]
01:26:21 <procto> "northwest semitic" would be what I would call canaanite
01:26:26 <sbp> ah
01:26:38 <procto> ugarit firmly within it
01:26:52 <procto> this is as opposed to nurtheast semitic
01:27:02 <procto> which in ling terms is akkadian and later aramaic
01:27:12 <procto> and represents the assyrian gods
01:27:23 <procto> which more or less come directly from the sumerian ones
01:27:39 <procto> there is a strong affinity between the assyrian and egyptian gods though
01:27:43 <procto> at least in their behavior and such
01:27:49 <procto> as well as the worship of the gods
01:28:00 <procto> which has to do with both civilization being river-based
01:28:25 <procto> while cannan is quite markedly river-less (jordan doesn't count. it's barely a stream in places)
01:28:45 <procto> which is why Baal-hadad, the strom/rain god is supreme there
01:29:05 <procto> whereas in the east, Enki is revered, as he masturbated the rivers
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01:31:03 <procto> also why holy whore were more prevalent in canaan (though they were everywhere, really, all the way into hellenic timez)
01:31:22 <procto> you fucked to bring down the rain
01:31:45 <procto> and when that didn't happen, you went down to egypt to hang out
01:31:53 <procto> like Jacob/Israel did
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01:33:28 <procto> one of the most fascinating aspects of these cultures is that our current conception of good/evil if it even existed then, was not reflected much in their myths
01:33:45 <procto> instead, there was the battle of order and chaos
01:33:52 <procto> where the latter was badder
01:35:08 <procto> and judaic writings just about all the way into 100BC or so continue that
01:35:25 <procto> I hear people exclaim about the bad things YHWH does ni the torah
01:35:27 <procto> ard such
01:35:55 <procto> but of coures he was merely epitomizing the moral of order and law
01:36:22 <procto> so, I really hate the term "judeo-chrisitan"
01:36:33 <procto> especially when someone says "judeo christian values"
01:37:02 <procto> it would be much more accurate to say "germano-romanic values"
01:38:47 <procto> so, i know it's an invalid arugment against X if you say hitler liked X so it must be bad
01:39:01 <aspect> procto: is "went down to Egypt" a euphemism?
01:39:30 <aspect> a bit of nile delta action if fucking doesn't bring the rain
01:39:34 <procto> but what if your argument is against person Y because Y hates Z which hitler also hated? is that valid?
01:39:48 <procto> aspect: I imagine both
01:47:09 <sbp> order and chaos emerges in the gnostics too
01:47:26 <sbp> I wonder if it got there from the older myths via the proto-gnostics
01:52:39 <nsh> .wik summarian creation myth
01:52:42 <phenny> "The Sumerian creation myth, the earliest account of the Sumerian creation and Flood myth, is found on a single fragmentary tablet excavated in Nippur, sometimes called the Eridu Genesis." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziusudra
01:53:13 <nsh> hmm, maybe it was another peoples
01:53:40 <nsh> i remember reading about a creation story where the world came into being because a homogenizing action ceased
01:53:56 <nsh> someone stopped mixing the muddy water of some river and things began forming
01:54:10 <nsh> i think a crocodile's tail may have been involved
01:54:23 <clsn> ISTR that the sumerian gods created humans because they were sick of having to dredge out the river themselves.
01:54:29 <sbp> .wik Enûma Eliš
01:54:30 <phenny> "The Enûma Eliš is the Babylonian or Mesopotamian creation epic." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enûma_Eliš
01:54:39 <sbp> is that the same as the Ziusudra?
01:55:19 <sbp> ah no, it doesn't sound of the same strand at all
01:55:28 <nsh> mmm
01:55:35 <sbp> except for the flood
01:56:06 <sbp> and the waters in the EE aren't really a flood
01:56:51 <nsh> n a similar way, he heaps mountains over her udder, piercing it "to make the rivers from the eastern mountains which flow into the Tigris. Her tail he bent up to the sky to make the Milky Way, and her crotch he used to support the sky" (Jacobsen 179).
01:56:54 <sbp> [[[
01:56:54 <sbp> The Sumerian myth tells how the god Enki warns Zi-ud-sura (meaning "he saw life," in reference to the gift of immortality given him by the gods), of the gods' decision to destroy mankind in a flood - the passage describing why the gods have decided this is lost. Enki instructs Ziusudra to build a large boat - the text describing the instructions is also lost.
01:56:55 <sbp> ]]]
01:56:59 <nsh> http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
01:57:21 *** nsh changed the topic to: "Swhack: Crushing your babies in phenol since 2001 | a plum word that will pamper your brainbunnies | ...and her crotch he used to support the sky..."
01:57:28 <sbp> :-)
01:57:45 <sbp> “The Akkadian Atrahasis Epic (written no later than 1700 BC, the name Atrahasis means "exceedingly wise"), gives human overpopulation as the cause for the great flood.”
01:57:46 <Monty> .gs less doubting, more sense it out, I like penalties?
01:57:47 <phenny> Query must have one "*" exactly
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01:59:08 <nsh> niish
02:01:03 * sbp -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(prehistoric)
02:02:32 <nsh> chatzilla annoying doesn't catch the last parenthesis of that url
02:02:52 <clsn> xchat doesn't catch any of the parens.
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02:03:20 <nsh> .wik Isostatic rebound
02:03:20 <phenny> "Post-glacial rebound (sometimes called continental rebound, isostatic rebound, isostatic adjustment or post-ice-age isostatic recovery) is the rise of land masses that were depressed by the huge weight of ice sheets during the last glacial period, through a process [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostatic_rebound
02:03:29 <nsh> that would be a good name for a something
02:03:35 <clsn> Like a rock band?
02:03:42 <nsh> yeah, but with electro elements
02:03:42 <clsn> Or a porn movie?
02:03:49 <nsh> and porn elements
02:04:01 <nsh> and p-elements
02:04:11 <nsh> musical p-elements..
02:04:33 * nsh gets carried away in the drifty raft up majinashun river
02:04:48 <sbp> parens: works fine in X-Chat Aqua
02:05:02 <nsh> "Also, parts of Scandinavia are rising isostatically for this reason, by up to centimeter a year in some places; it rises as fast as mantle rock can flow in under it, and that mantle rock must come from somewhere around, including from under the Netherlands, which are slowly sinking as a result."
02:05:06 <nsh> hahaa
02:05:12 <nsh> we're stealing land from the dutch!
02:05:16 <sbp> hehe
02:05:24 <nsh> perfect ploy!
02:06:10 <nsh> .ety bolide
02:06:11 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "bolide". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=bolide
02:06:25 <clsn> .ety bolete
02:06:26 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "bolete". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=bolete
02:06:32 <clsn> bolete is a mushroom I think.
02:06:44 <sbp> “The word bolide comes from the Greek βολις, (bolis) which can mean a missile or to flash.”
02:06:44 <Monty> >_>
02:06:46 <nsh> .ety bolis
02:06:47 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "bolis". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=bolis
02:06:47 <sbp> nsh nsh nsh nsh nsh
02:06:50 <nsh> sbpsbpsbpsbsp
02:06:51 <sbp> “The word bolide comes from the Greek βολις, (bolis) which can mean a missile or to flash.”
02:06:59 <nsh> oh, wiktionary says from french
02:07:08 <nsh> and see Bolis
02:07:09 <clsn> .ety bolus
02:07:09 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "bolus". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=bolus
02:07:09 <sbp> wiktionary can fuck itself with a swizzlestick
02:07:10 <nsh> which is a redlink
02:07:15 <clsn> bolus is something else..
02:07:39 <nsh> Etymology:
02:07:40 <nsh> French, from Latin bolid-, bolis, from Greek, from bolē throw, stroke
02:07:42 <nsh> --Mirriam Webster
02:08:01 <nsh> the french were just camping it
02:08:10 <sbp> as usual
02:08:13 <nsh> OI, STOP LE CAMPING LE GREEKEN WORDS
02:09:35 * nsh better trot
02:09:41 <nsh> there's funk afoot
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02:16:53 <Morbus> .gb gameplay "game play"
02:16:57 <Morbus> phenny: help
02:16:57 <phenny> Morbus: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is sbp.
02:16:58 <Monty> pedant
02:17:02 <Morbus> .commands
02:17:32 <Morbus> what the hell is the google battle command?
02:17:55 <clsn> is it the .gcs one now?
02:18:06 <Morbus> .gcd gameplay "game play" "game-play"
02:18:09 <Morbus> .gcs gameplay "game play" "game-play"
02:18:11 <phenny> gameplay (50,000,000), "game-play" (16,800,000), "game play" (16,800,000)
02:18:11 <Morbus> .gc gameplay "game play" "game-play"
02:18:12 <phenny> gameplay "game play" "game-play": 684,000
02:18:45 <Morbus> thanks
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02:25:08 <_bjoern> .swhack sehac
02:25:20 <phenny> _bjoern: http://swhack.com/logs/2007-10-15#T17-26-31
02:26:03 <_bjoern> I never did, but was just wondering whether I should thise time...
02:26:15 <sbp> YES
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02:27:41 <sbp> _bjoern: doesn't this mean that it was yesterday though?
02:27:55 <sbp> or did he change it to today?
02:28:23 <_bjoern> TIMEZONES
02:28:43 <sbp> that must be one freaky timezone
02:28:55 <sbp> I heard there's a part of Bavaria which is still in 1851
02:29:32 <_bjoern> 22:21 +00:00 -> 00:21 +02:00 on the next day.
02:29:43 <sbp> ooh
02:30:04 <rasda> sbp: its whole bavaria ^^
02:30:08 <sbp> hehe
02:30:23 <_bjoern> Does that include Franken?
02:30:41 <rasda> yup
02:30:52 * sbp wonders if Frankenstein is from Franken
02:31:09 <_bjoern> .wik Frankenstein
02:31:10 <phenny> "Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus is a novel written by the British author Mary Shelley." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein
02:31:41 <sbp> “Mary Shelley maintained that she derived the name "Frankenstein" from a dream-vision. Despite her public claims of originality, the significance of the name has been a source of speculation. Literally, in German, the name Frankenstein means "stone of the Franks".”
02:32:15 <rasda> ahjo
02:35:18 <sbp> .wik Meteor burst communications
02:35:18 <phenny> "Meteor burst communications, or MBC for short, is a radio propagation mode that exploits the ionized trails of meteors during atmospheric entry to establish brief communications paths between radio stations up to 2250 kilometres (1400 miles) apart." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_burst_communications
02:35:54 <clsn> .wik White Boys
02:35:55 <phenny> "Dirty White Boys is a vivid and violent novel by American author Stephen Hunter." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_White_Boys
02:36:05 <clsn> huh. wondered if they listed the song. guess not.
02:38:07 <Arnia> Ireland and Estonia are out of Eurovision :(
02:39:16 <JibberJim> Ireland did turn up with a f'ing puppet I heard!
02:39:34 <_bjoern> The UK had to pay, again, tremendous bribes to join the contest.
02:40:06 <_bjoern> #Swhack wants to see Iceland come out of the semfi
02:40:10 <sbp> another nil pwah for us?
02:40:33 <_bjoern> .wik Andy Abraham
02:40:33 <phenny> "Andrew Abraham (born 17 July 1964 (age 43) in London) is an English male vocalist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Abraham
02:41:11 <_bjoern> well let's see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1DEp-nfwDk
02:41:41 <_bjoern> we'll offer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35hSMHaUw8E
02:42:05 <sbp> .title
02:42:05 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - No Angels - Disappear (official music video)
02:42:10 <sbp> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1DEp-nfwDk
02:42:10 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - "Even If" Video
02:42:37 <_bjoern> our song's .wik is much longer than yours.
02:42:47 <sbp> brevity is the soul of wit
02:43:36 <sbp> (says Polonius...)
02:43:54 <MoiraA> very true
02:43:56 <_bjoern> I say neither one of us will win this year, odd as that may seem!
02:44:14 <clsn> [[[
02:44:14 <sbp> MoiraA: the joke being that Polonius rambles on and on like a ramblotron
02:44:16 <clsn> SUNRISE, Florida (Reuters) - The souvenir vendors outside Hillary Clinton's campaign appearances have added a new button to their wares that reads "Chelsea in 2016" with a picture of the former first daughter.
02:44:18 <clsn> ]]]
02:44:20 <sbp> sry clsn
02:44:25 <clsn> mkay
02:44:39 <sbp> _bjoern: I saw somewhere that Sweden is tipped to win
02:44:57 <_bjoern> well where did we check the rates last time?
02:45:23 <sbp> I think we just made shit up
02:45:35 <_bjoern> no I checked
02:45:45 <_bjoern> http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/eurovision/eurovision-song-contest/win-market has something
02:46:13 <sbp> hmm, Sweden 5th
02:46:29 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7400508.stm
02:46:30 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Sweden tipped to win Eurovision
02:46:42 <sbp> “Sweden's Eurovision entry has emerged as the favourite to win this year's contest in a Europe-wide BBC vote.”
02:47:06 <sbp> see also: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7376968.stm
02:47:08 <sbp> .title
02:47:10 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Eurovision vote 2008: Top 10
02:48:32 <_bjoern> I like where we are on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7375489.stm
02:48:39 <_bjoern> relative to where you are anyway.
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02:49:41 <sbp> at least we're beating Spain
02:49:48 <sbp> and Finland
02:50:12 <_bjoern> but being beaten by france and germany is hard.
02:50:52 <sbp> well you're being beaten by your squeaky-clean neighbours Switzerland!
02:50:56 <xover> .weather Tromsø
02:51:03 <phenny> Clear ☼, 8℃, 1030mb, Gentle breeze 4m/s (8kt) (↑) - ENTC 15:50, 1350Z
02:51:18 <sbp> (no Austria? hmm)
02:52:12 <_bjoern> Are the semi finals over yet? ch hasn't qualified yet...
02:52:45 <_bjoern> We are #2 and #4 according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2008
02:53:15 <sbp> _bjoern: Germany is also the favourite to come last, according to http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/eurovision/to-finish-last
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02:54:40 <_bjoern> Yes, we have a good reputation as far as that goes.
02:56:56 <procto> is israel anywhere this year?
02:57:15 <sbp> yup, it's right by Syria and Palestine
02:57:39 <sbp> OH YOU MEAN
02:57:47 <procto> not top 10, I guess
02:57:53 <procto> I liked SIrael's entry last year
02:58:25 <procto> lyrics: http://www.diggiloo.net/?2007il
03:00:16 <procto> oh Israel actually got to the final this year!
03:01:56 <_bjoern> Yes, this is their entry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I I think.
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03:04:02 <procto> I rather like that tune
03:04:34 <procto> the chorus can be in farsi
03:04:52 <procto> "these facilities are for research"
03:05:47 <Arnia> I think Azerbaijan will win
03:05:59 <Arnia> They have a gay love song between an angel and a devil!
03:06:23 * Arnia is looking forward to Saturday
03:06:31 <Arnia> Got to get a costume made though
03:07:17 <nsh> legendary
03:07:21 <nsh> legendarical even
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03:08:52 <procto> Arnia: the israeli one is also a gay love song
03:09:00 <procto> but no angels and devils
03:09:38 * sbp wonders if there are any glove songs
03:09:55 <procto> technically ISrael isn't really in europe, but averbaijan is even less so
03:10:01 <procto> are they really in the contest?
03:10:08 <sbp> Shakespeare's dad was a glover
03:10:11 <procto> time to bounce!
03:11:37 <nslater> hellos
03:11:41 <sbp> yo
03:12:01 <nslater> nsh left work early today :)
03:12:37 <nslater> either that or I am hear later than usual
03:12:43 <nslater> here, even
03:13:21 <sbp> or both
03:16:58 <Arnia> procto: they're in the European Broadcaster's Association
03:17:05 <Arnia> procto: hence part of Eurovision
03:17:32 <sbp> but why are they in the EBA?
03:18:02 <Arnia> Because they're part of Eurovision, duh.
03:18:07 <sbp> hehe
03:18:15 <sbp> makes sense
03:18:27 <Arnia> As much sense as anything about Eurovision
03:18:41 <sbp> yeah
03:19:14 <Arnia> It really is a peculiarly European thing though... what other continent (even broadly described as it is here) would have an annual sing-a-long involving cheesy high camp and Terry Wogan getting drunk?
03:19:27 <sbp> South America
03:19:33 <Arnia> Ah, yes.
03:19:56 <sbp> Brazil should make a guest entry to Eurovision one year
03:20:13 <Arnia> Allow them to join the EBA
03:20:23 <Arnia> Geography seems no object
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03:20:40 <sbp> Thunderbirds are go
03:20:42 <Arnia> Hm... I wonder if this is a cunning world take-over attempt
03:21:03 <Arnia> Declare the entire world part of Europe through Eurovision and thence get them to join the EU
03:21:57 <sbp> except for like Mauritius or something
03:22:04 <sbp> <Mauritius> damnit
03:22:10 <Arnia> And the US would never join in something so gay, and so would be isolated from the New World Order
03:22:15 <Arnia> IT IS A GAY CONSPIRACY
03:22:28 <Arnia> (and I'll get beaten for revealing it)
03:22:43 <Arnia> (but I'll enjoy that)
03:22:45 <sbp> I dunno, it can't be long until the Californian economy swallows up the rest of the country
03:22:46 <Arnia> (not really)
03:22:47 <nslater> heh
03:22:56 <Arnia> (now you're confused)
03:22:57 <sbp> and I can forsee a gay Californian premier
03:24:46 <Arnia> Hm... not if you believe the opinions voiced on AppleInsider in the past few days
03:24:55 <sbp> oh?
03:25:28 <Arnia> There was an article which said that Apple had been declared a top 'gay-friendly brand' (whatever that means) and, unsurprisingly, the thread degenerated into a load of name calling
03:25:36 <sbp> hmm
03:25:59 <sbp> maybe someone took Boot Camp the wrong way
03:26:43 <Arnia> Hmm... think I've seen a porn film called that actually
03:26:43 <Monty> THIRD, WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, IT professional I'll keep a post that meant, I dunno either sies got to pay, again, i change his driver
03:27:56 <sbp> .title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870204/
03:27:57 <phenny> sbp: Boot Camp (2007)
03:28:17 <sbp> oh, here we go
03:28:19 <sbp> .title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164443/
03:28:20 <phenny> sbp: Boot Camp (1996)
03:28:36 <sbp> plot keywords: “Gay Interest | Dance | Motorcycle | Song And Dance | Independent Film”
03:28:43 <cre8radix> SBP!
03:29:18 <sbp> starring Doug Bradford as Master with Whip, Dave Kibbe as Slave in Shackles, and Sam Lipton as Master with Leash
03:29:20 <sbp> yo cre8radix
03:30:03 <cre8radix> howzit, sbp?
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03:30:32 <sbp> cre8radix: awful, gritty, black-and-white, shot-on-reversal-without-sync-sound, anonymous-sex, and ludicrous gay, thanks!
03:30:42 <sbp> how bout u?
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03:32:09 <nslater> if anyone fancies watching a film completely devoid of any realism I recommend indiana jones, which was released today
03:32:52 <nslater> they guy survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a frige, and that sets the baseline of believability
03:32:58 <nslater> fridge
03:33:07 <sbp> Indiana Jones has never really been a stalwart of realism now, has it?
03:33:23 <nslater> I can't really remember, this this film takes it to, literally, comic levels
03:33:33 <cre8radix> sbp: nice'n sleezy, erupt, scandalous, chilled but burning!
03:33:54 <nslater> I'm not sure if it was intended to be humor, but I found the total lack of any reference to real world physics to be hilarious
03:34:26 <nslater> he falls down three consecutive waterfalls, in a car, and is only slightly phased at the end of it
03:34:58 <nslater> but the whole hiding in a fridge thing really made me laugh
03:35:17 <nslater> someone should tell the government, we could save billions on anti-nuclear defenses, fridges for everyone!
03:35:25 <sbp> I'll bet you're a riot in the cinema
03:35:31 <sbp> “hahahaha, that's so fake”
03:35:40 <sbp> “omg that isn't even Harrison Ford's real face”
03:35:49 <nslater> so you prefer to enjoy popular culture with no commentary whatsoever?
03:36:02 <nslater> also, lol
03:36:19 <sbp> I'm not raggin' on yer commentary mang
03:36:24 <sbp> yer commentary's rad-solid
03:36:27 * nslater puts spb in a fridge
03:36:33 <sbp> best place for him
03:36:39 <nslater> oh damn
03:36:43 <nslater> too much time in the other place ;)
03:36:47 <sbp> whereas I'm cool enough already
03:37:00 <nslater> .g nuclear blast fridge
03:37:02 <phenny> nslater: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=11604831
03:37:16 <nslater> .g nuclear blast fridge indiana jones
03:37:17 <phenny> nslater: http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movies/movies/a0004050.cfm
03:37:34 <nslater> on both counts, fail
03:40:02 <sbp> you said that at 16:09
03:40:08 <nslater> it's actually a pretty weird combination, that the film lacks any semblance of realism yet it's historical and archiological facts are, for the most part, bang on and totally based in real life
03:40:11 <sbp> Shakespeare's sonnets were published in 1609
03:40:15 <nslater> well, except the ending, but I wondt give that away
03:40:19 <sbp> which is spooky! don't you think?
03:40:23 <nslater> no
03:40:27 <nslater> sry
03:40:30 <sbp> probably proves somehow that Bacon was Oscar Wilde
03:40:49 <nslater> .gc wondt
03:40:50 <phenny> wondt: 166,000
03:43:24 <nslater> actually, the most annoying part of the film is that a crystal skull features fairly prominently throughout (as you might have guessed if you knew the film's full title) but the prop they use is clearly made of perspex or some other light plastic because as indi is tossing it around and gesticulating with it in hand you can visually see that it weighs next to nothing. how hard would it have been for the props department to put some weighting in it, ...
03:43:31 <nslater> ... I would have thought that this kinda stuff was props 101
03:43:52 <sbp> no, it's just that he's really really strong
03:44:20 <nslater> every single scene with that skull I was distracted by my annoyance by the lack of attention to detail
03:44:27 <sbp> he's stronger than your five favourite superheros combined
03:44:30 <nslater> ha
03:44:49 <nslater> and like 60+, which I am glad they made reference to constantly
03:45:35 <nslater> but anyway, enough indiana jones spam :p
03:45:35 <sbp> so at any rate, was it good?
03:45:40 <nslater> yeah, fantastic film!
03:45:46 <sbp> sweet
03:45:49 <nslater> heh
03:53:32 <MoiraA> sb
03:53:36 <sbp> p?
03:54:03 <MoiraA> o-=,]]]]]]]
03:54:40 <nslater> @:>}{
03:54:55 <nslater> .swhack dream divinate
03:55:28 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
03:55:35 <nslater> .swhack dream div
03:55:35 <Monty> ah, now this morning?
03:56:01 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
03:56:15 <nslater> I know for a fact that nsh said "dream divinate" at some point
03:56:27 <nsh> i don
03:56:30 <nsh> 't talk
03:56:32 <nsh> this is slander
03:56:33 <MoiraA> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
03:56:36 <sbp> he don
03:56:37 <nslater> o_O
03:56:48 <nsh> .swhack don
03:56:49 <phenny> nsh: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-23#T12-51-15
03:56:52 <sbp> she's slowly learning the alphabet, Edison style
03:56:57 <nslater> .swhack dream
03:56:59 <phenny> nslater: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-23#T17-21-58
03:57:04 <MoiraA> dldffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
03:57:06 <nslater> bah
03:57:13 <nslater> MoiraA: hey, are you okay?
03:57:23 <nsh> .swhack dream-divinate
03:57:36 <sbp> she's not normally this incoherent
03:57:40 <sbp> I'm guessing cat-on-keyboard
03:57:49 <phenny> nsh: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-04-22#T23-54-36
03:57:53 <nslater> aha!
03:58:10 <nslater> yes, the line I was looking for was two lines under that
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03:59:11 <nsh> cannot to be stealings my smoke-risefrom-bracemonster nowpls
03:59:23 <nslater> sry, iz already done
03:59:40 <nsh> bah'xclaim
04:00:47 <nsh> .swhack Sharks swim closer to *
04:00:51 <nsh> wait
04:00:58 <nsh> .gs sharks swim closer to *
04:00:58 <phenny> sharks swim closer to *: extinction (8)
04:01:06 <nsh> GOING WRONG WEI
04:01:11 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, no results found.
04:01:19 * clsn looks for and starts downloading a vid for the Israeli Eurovision entry. I haven't heard the eurovision contestants yet.
04:04:15 <Monty> potty mouth!
04:06:18 * clsn watches/listens to Israeli Eurovision song with half and eye/ear... Not impressed...
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04:07:15 <nslater> ooh, I should check schneier website, I gave him a link he said he would blog about :p
04:07:32 <clsn> Most of the google entries on Israel and Eurovision are still about last year's entry.
04:07:44 <clsn> 'cuz it was contruhvershul.
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04:08:17 <clsn> lol
04:08:57 <jeffarch> son of spam
04:10:16 <sbp> nslater: oh! note that Meades is on BBC 2 tonight!
04:10:25 <sbp> at 7pm I think. Monty is going to remind us several times
04:10:25 <nslater> sbp: i dont have a tv :)
04:10:32 <sbp> ...ah, that would be a Problem
04:10:32 <Monty> andrew saw him in London, but you just thought of hell as I'm walking along doing the problem is on my smoke-risefrom-bracemonster nowpls
04:10:55 <nslater> hah
04:11:13 <nslater> plum, take Monty's bracemonster nowpls
04:11:15 <Monty> wanking is prickly and exhausted :P
04:11:16 <plum> taking a plum photos for work", i take photos of b00bs too.
04:11:17 <sbp> .gc bracemonster
04:11:17 <phenny> bracemonster: 2
04:11:22 <sbp> .g bracemonster
04:11:23 <phenny> sbp: http://www.e-tankstore.com/webboard/viewtopic.php?t=54&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90&sid=38df886fadf620e1bcdaa23285d255e4
04:11:29 <nsh> whoa
04:11:30 <clsn> Israeli Eurovision not obviously gay if you read the translation. But it's sung by a man and the male second-person pronoun is used. OTOH, in singing such things aren't unheard-of.
04:11:32 <sbp> .gc electrotank
04:11:33 <phenny> electrotank: 55,000
04:11:36 <nsh> you can buy e-tanks on internet!
04:11:40 <nslater> plum, photos of b00bs too?
04:11:43 <plum> i saw those photos of octavia btw. the photo of a woman's i like this site already.
04:11:52 <nslater> haha
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04:13:18 <sbp> laht: photos of Octavia plz
04:13:25 <sbp> laht: i mean photos plz
04:13:28 <nslater> hahaha
04:13:29 <sbp> laht: r u a sexbot??
04:13:36 <laht> yes
04:13:37 <nslater> laht, pm me pls
04:13:40 <nslater> laht: asl
04:13:43 <laht> i'm sexy human bot
04:13:45 <sbp> 'k. we syber??
04:13:51 <sbp> human : : : ( ( (
04:13:52 <nslater> plum, hit on laht
04:13:53 <laht> xDDD
04:13:55 <plum> laht, im u wanna cyber? your penis is hard. does that turn you on? lol
04:14:00 <sbp> lol
04:14:46 <sbp> laht: why boop??
04:15:11 <clsn> .title http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/22/lifelock.flap.ap/index.html
04:15:12 <phenny> clsn: Fraud-prevention pitchman becomes ID theft victim - CNN.com
04:15:38 <sbp> laht lahT laHt laHT lAht lAhT lAHt lAHT Laht LahT LaHt LaHT LAht LAhT LAHt LAHT
04:17:01 <sbp> “Davis said it's possible driver's licenses have been issued to other people in his name because of the widespread availability of his personal information -- and because of what he described as the flimsy mechanisms in place to report that kind of fraud.”
04:17:05 <sbp> he probably has a point there
04:17:23 <sbp> security by obscurity of one quasi-public number isn't really all that strong
04:18:05 <sbp> clsn: see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm for more luls
04:18:08 <sbp> .title
04:18:09 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Clarkson stung after bank prank
04:18:27 <sbp> [[[
04:18:28 <sbp> The Top Gear host revealed his account numbers after rubbishing the furore over the loss of 25 million people's personal details on two computer discs.
04:18:28 <sbp> He wanted to prove the story was a fuss about nothing.
04:18:28 <sbp> But Clarkson admitted he was "wrong" after he discovered a reader had used the details to create a £500 direct debit to the charity Diabetes UK.
04:18:28 <sbp> ]]]
04:18:45 <clsn> He probably has a point... but considering that he is selling protection of this very thing he admits is unprotectable...
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04:20:05 <sbp> yeah, heh
04:20:27 <sbp> “A stray parrot was reunited with its owner in Japan after repeating its name and address at the local veterinary clinic that took it in, police said.” - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7414846.stm
04:22:41 <sbp> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/2008/05/caption_competition_34.shtml
04:22:45 <sbp> (title: Caption Competition)
04:24:08 <sbp> if Monty were a dog, he would eat our socks
04:24:15 <Monty> But Clarkson admitted he looks like okay, here at train stations in Japan after repeating its name and I'm guessing cat-on-keyboard
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04:31:34 <Monty> Thank goodness, cre8radix is back!
04:32:55 <cre8radix> in full effect
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04:39:10 <Morbus> [[[
04:39:11 <Morbus> [12:10] <Senpai> Morbus: That is going to become a quote on my whiteboard.
04:39:11 <Morbus> [12:10] <Morbus> what's that?
04:39:11 <Morbus> [12:10] <Morbus> what quote, rather.
04:39:11 <Morbus> [12:11] <Senpai> Morbus: "I taste tomatoes, but I haven't eaten any, which means I'm probably bleeding internally"
04:39:12 <Morbus> ]]]
04:39:16 <Morbus> i do, in fact, taste tomatoes.
04:41:26 <nsh> government is probably just beaming tomato taste into your brain using microwaves
04:42:01 <nsh> to distract you while the reverse vampires steal your mince
04:42:15 <nsh> and innocence
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04:49:50 <nsh> .ety platform
04:49:51 <phenny> "1550, 'plan of action, scheme, design,' from M.Fr. plate-forme, lit. 'flat form,' from O.Fr. plate 'flat' (see plat) + forme 'form' (see form)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=platform
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04:58:40 <sbp> seen on another channel:
04:58:50 <sbp> <person> i need a different way of saying this: "resulted in massive efficiencies"
04:59:17 <nsh> i'd have responded with "yes, you do."
04:59:43 <nsh> or maybe something even snarkier
04:59:47 <nsh> it's hard to tell
04:59:47 <Monty> seen on the widespread availability of what quote, rather.
05:00:05 <sbp> .gc "manboobs ahoy!"
05:00:06 <phenny> "manboobs ahoy!": 34
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05:11:32 <sbp> .gs choke on a bucket of *
05:11:34 <phenny> choke on a bucket of *: cocks (20), dicks (5)
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05:14:15 <sbp> Arniarniarnia!
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05:19:56 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to watch Meades
05:20:09 <sbp> Monty: no, Simpsons
05:20:10 <Monty> desperately needs moar goats
05:20:17 <sbp> MOAR GOETS
05:25:05 <sbp> .gc "collander factory"
05:25:06 <phenny> "collander factory": 0
05:25:13 <sbp> where are they made then?
05:25:15 <sbp> .gc "collander farm"
05:25:16 <phenny> "collander farm": 0
05:25:18 <sbp> .gc "collander tree"
05:25:18 <phenny> "collander tree": 3
05:25:22 <sbp> aha
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05:25:37 <sbp> deltab: Simpsons! new! ôÛÎ̵̋̃Î̋Î̃Î̵Û̱Ô•̱̱́!
05:45:42 <nslater> sbp: ping
05:46:14 <nslater> sbp: I think that when you do something like ".wik webinar" that redirects to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webinar" phenny should report the final URI, not the first one, if that makes sense
05:46:25 <nslater> hmm...
05:47:00 <nslater> clearly there is an error in my logic, wikipedia doesnt redirect you (as evidenced from the URI I just pasted) but the article still indicates that you have been redirected, I wonder if there is still a way to do it
05:56:35 <_bjoern> Well phenny could extract the url from the page, but why?
05:56:37 <sbp> yo. yeah, too fiddly
05:59:18 <sbp> [[[
05:59:18 <sbp> Keira Knightley is to star in a new film adaptation of Shakespearean tragedy King Lear.
05:59:18 <sbp> She will play Cordelia, the youngest daughter of the King, who will be portrayed by Sir Anthony Hopkins.
05:59:18 <sbp> Gwyneth Paltrow is tipped to take the role of Regan, Lear's treacherous middle daughter. His eldest daughter, Goneril, is yet to be cast.
05:59:21 <sbp> ]]] - SHAKSPER
06:02:23 <sbp> .gc "the Jacobeans always slept raw"
06:02:24 <phenny> "the Jacobeans always slept raw": 1
06:02:53 <sbp> .g "the Jacobeans always slept raw"
06:02:53 <phenny> sbp: http://books.google.com/books?id=bYBso1t4ylcC&pg=PA120&lpg=PA120&dq=%22the+Jacobeans+always+slept+raw%22&source=web&ots=k6zYGKQ5vA&sig=l7FBFkO8jhGHXNLYGIYXi2wb1yY&hl=en
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06:13:27 <procto> sbp: that actually sounds like pretty good casting
06:13:50 <procto> sbp: except I never bought keira knightley playing anyone good
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06:15:32 <sbp> any guesses on who'll play Goneril?
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06:20:55 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to watch Meades. deltab too should be reminded
06:25:14 <sbp> deltab! Meades!
06:25:22 <nslater> MEADES!
06:25:27 <sbp> MEAAAAADES!
06:25:36 <nslater> PPPPPPwwwwwwAAAArrriiiing!
06:25:40 <sbp> vroooooooooome
06:25:47 <nslater> BEEP BEEP
06:25:52 <sbp> kjthiunk
06:26:02 <sbp> (a constituent noise of the j-turn)
06:26:07 <nslater> eek
06:26:14 <sbp> oh, shit, Meades. heh. must locate telly
06:26:25 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to watch Meades. deltab too should be reminded. SERIOUSLY DUDES IT'S ALMOST ON
06:26:30 <nslater> heh
06:26:40 <nslater> Monty: you're making me upset
06:26:40 <Monty> Does it please you to believe I am making you upset ?
06:26:47 <nslater> Monty: no :(
06:26:51 <Monty> “Davis said he does that requires the furore over the google entries on another channel:
06:26:54 <sbp> .c 7 * 24
06:26:54 <phenny> 7 * 24 = 168
06:27:10 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 168 hours to watch Meades. deltab too should be reminded. AND NSLATER IF HE HAS A TELLY
06:27:10 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu May 29 18:59:19 BST 2008
06:27:43 <nslater> haha
06:28:01 <sbp> .gc Hanseatic
06:28:02 <phenny> Hanseatic: 3,180,000
06:28:09 <sbp> .c 7 * 24 * 60
06:28:11 <phenny> 7 * 24 * 60 = 10 080
06:28:21 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 10075 minutes to MEADES
06:28:21 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu May 29 18:55:30 BST 2008
06:28:46 <nslater> .c (19 + 18) - 24
06:28:46 <phenny> (19 + 18) - 24 = 13
06:29:00 <sbp> okay, half an hour of concentration...
06:29:03 <sbp> (and Django)
06:29:22 * _bjoern concentrates on http://www.janis.or.jp/users/segabito/JavaScriptMaryo.html
06:29:50 <nslater> remind me in 18 hours 35 minutes to be 1337 baby
06:29:51 <Monty> nslater: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Fri May 23 13:37:00 BST 2008
06:31:51 <sbp> .wik Expressionism
06:31:51 <phenny> "Expressionism is the tendency of an artist to distort reality for an emotional effect; it is a subjective art form." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressionism
06:32:17 <_bjoern> .wik Espressionism
06:32:19 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Espressionism".
06:33:43 <sbp> .wik Hansa
06:33:44 <phenny> "Hansa may refer to" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansa
06:34:03 <_bjoern> It's called the Hansa Privilege
06:34:39 <sbp> .gc "mercantile wideboy"
06:34:39 <phenny> "mercantile wideboy": 0
06:37:58 <sbp> "a Germany without potatos is as unimaginable as a repetetively offending suicide bomber"
06:38:19 <_bjoern> When did that become an offense?
06:38:47 <sbp> in Soviet America, everything is an offence
06:40:01 <_bjoern> Is Soviet America the current one, or the current one reversed?
06:40:10 <sbp> the current one
06:40:30 <sbp> his c in mercantile is hard
06:42:47 <_bjoern> .gc mersantile
06:42:48 <phenny> mersantile: 9
06:42:56 <_bjoern> .gc mersantile porn
06:42:56 <phenny> mersantile porn: 0
06:43:28 <_bjoern> soon to be an instant-win-word in porngc.
06:43:34 <sbp> RATHAUS
06:44:49 <_bjoern> You should go on some market place and scream random german words for an hour every day.
06:46:43 <nslater> hahaha, bullshit bingo crazyness at http://www.counterpane.com/
06:46:50 <nslater> "Leveraging our experienced professionals and state-of-the-art security solutions, BT Counterpane delivers comprehensive protection and real economies of scale and efficiencies of cost."
06:47:05 <sbp> man, that'd be great
06:47:18 <nslater> wtf is an economy of scale?
06:47:23 <nslater> .wik economy of scale
06:47:23 <phenny> "Economies of scale are the cost advantages that a firm obtains due to expansion." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_scale
06:47:28 <nslater> pft
06:48:00 * nslater leverages sbp
06:48:05 <sbp> he's in Sassnitz now
06:48:14 <sbp> or however you spell that
06:52:50 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Caspar_David_Friedrich_023.jpg
06:54:27 <sbp> I just learned another German word
06:54:28 <sbp> BAD
06:54:31 <sbp> = WELL or SPRING
06:55:40 <_bjoern> If Sassnitz near Rügen then it's spelled correctly.
06:56:02 <sbp> near that painting
06:56:16 <sbp> sham-wah?!
06:56:19 <sbp> (for chamois)
06:56:25 <sbp> awesome
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07:15:09 <sbp> Arnia: what costume are you having made?
07:15:34 <sbp> I realised yesterday that fashion is a discrete human invention
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07:15:53 <sbp> it was like suddenly realising that pop is music
07:20:38 <nslater> why does this happen:
07:20:41 <nslater> .wik internet marriage
07:20:42 <phenny> "In the broadest sense, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud
07:21:05 <sbp> .wik Googlebomb
07:21:05 <phenny> "A Google bomb (also referred to as a 'link bomb') is Internet slang for a certain kind of attempt to influence the ranking of a given page in results returned by the Google search engine, often with humorous or political intentions.[1]| Because of the way that Google's [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebomb
07:21:18 <nslater> but searching for it on google shows it's not a googlebomb
07:21:42 <sbp> .wik Inexplicable comedy
07:21:44 <phenny> "Lionel Nimrod's Inexplicable World was a BBC Radio 4 comedy series starring Stewart Lee and Richard Herring (the comedy duo Lee and Herring), and narrated by Tom Baker as the titular character, Lionel Nimrod, a comically exaggerated version of Baker himself." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Nimrod's_Inexplicable_World
07:21:51 <nslater> it's not even the top result for wikipedia :/
07:22:03 <sbp> .g site:en.wikipedia.org internet marriage
07:22:04 <phenny> sbp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud
07:22:04 <nslater> oh, it is with site:w.o
07:22:50 <deltab> "... other party. The innocent party may file a lawsuit and/or annulment of the marriage. In a bilateral fraud, both parties are aware of it and both parties are s ... ... e]], [[phone fraud|phone]], and the [[internet]] ([[computer crime]] and [[internet fraud]])."
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07:23:19 <_bjoern> I wonder how IE (IE8 in particular) handles header merging with 304 responses.
07:23:40 <sbp> so what happened is that I was walking by a pretty girl—in the http://inamidst.com/whits/2008/pretty sense—and I was overanalysing the situation as usual, wondering what, exactly made her pretty
07:23:56 <sbp> she wasn't particularly remarkable except for a) her beautiful hair, and b) her dress
07:24:08 <nslater> I hope she's reading these logs
07:24:12 <sbp> so I thought about how much this was a personal choice and how much it was an edict of culture
07:24:45 <nslater> you dont think personal choice stems from culture?
07:24:57 <nslater> I can't see how you can seperate them completely
07:24:59 <sbp> and I figured that if we were in tibet or something, the mode of dress would be exceptionally different. would I find it as pretty? probably not. and that's probably more slanted towards culture too, so the reception is cultural as well
07:25:11 <sbp> right, I think they're definitely connected. it's not just towards one end
07:25:29 <nslater> I would have to disagree and suggest that it's almost exclusively based in your culture
07:25:34 <sbp> but I think that obviously if she were born in another place or time, she'd be wearing something completely different
07:25:44 <sbp> ehwhat now? isn't that what I just said?
07:25:48 <nslater> oh
07:26:21 <sbp> rightio
07:26:35 <nslater> I should imagine that if you lived in one of these african tribes you read about you might prefer the women with the biggest lip disks and strongest legs, or whatever, I dont know what is considered attractive
07:26:41 <sbp> so this made me think about some mens magz I'd seen from the 1950s or so
07:27:11 <sbp> the styles of these things are really weird, *except* for those that were produced in California. when I realised that, that was a major, major lightbulb moment too
07:27:21 <nslater> have you seen that comparison of playboy center folds over the years? very funny
07:27:28 <sbp> the modern “look” of women was very much invented in California in the middle of the last century
07:27:29 <nslater> how so?
07:27:30 <sbp> nope?
07:27:41 <nslater> oh, google for it, very interesting
07:27:51 <nslater> .g playboy centerfolds over the years
07:27:54 <phenny> nslater: http://digg.com/celebrity/50_Years_of_Playboy_Centerfolds_NSFW
07:27:57 <nslater> yay
07:28:04 <sbp> well in non-CA magazines of that period, people look like they're using flapper styles still, or hard to characterise but completely different styles from what looks "normal"
07:28:21 <sbp> but these ancient Californian women looked very modern
07:28:32 <nslater> hmm, that link is fail
07:28:58 <sbp> yes, very fail
07:29:06 <Arnia> I'm thinking of going as a cocktail made from orange juice and champagne
07:29:14 <sbp> so I was still looking at the girl and thinking about this, and I was like man, I have to write this down in my notebook
07:29:17 <nslater> doesnt that have a name?
07:29:24 <sbp> so I did, and then I looked for the girl again but she'd disappeared
07:29:28 <nslater> bucksfiz?
07:29:30 <sbp> so there must be a moral to that too somewhere
07:29:32 <nslater> shame
07:29:36 <Arnia> nslater: yes
07:29:43 <nslater> less noting, more flirting, sbp
07:29:46 <sbp> indeed
07:29:57 <sbp> so my next note was "Paradise Lost"
07:30:04 <nslater> heh
07:30:09 <sbp> because I'd been reading about how far Paradise Lost might be an analogy of the civil war
07:30:29 <sbp> and not that the girl was particularly beautiful or anything, but that she managed to inspire what to me what a pretty important idea
07:30:46 <nslater> that could have been your chatup line ;)
07:31:01 <sbp> that fashion is like zero. we don't think of zero as evolving or being discovered, now, but it was
07:31:10 <sbp> fashion is like a constant discovery
07:31:13 <sbp> heh, yeah
07:31:20 * Arnia sighs
07:31:29 <Arnia> I'm fed up with doing mindmaps of my thesis
07:31:31 <sbp> I should just waggle my notebook at the ladies, an' they'll come running
07:31:40 <sbp> why not do something else then?
07:31:42 <nslater> your "notebook"?
07:31:46 <sbp> chuckle
07:31:50 <sbp> good a word as any
07:31:54 <nslater> heh
07:31:57 <Arnia> My head hurts with holding the whole structure of my work active at the same time
07:32:01 <sbp> huge information storage potential
07:32:08 <Arnia> So I'm now listless
07:32:17 <Arnia> sbp: how many kilodaltons?
07:32:21 * nslater passes Arnia some lists
07:32:24 <sbp> dalton?
07:32:38 <Arnia> .wik kilodalton
07:32:39 <phenny> "The unified atomic mass unit (u), or dalton (Da), is a small unit of mass used to express atomic and molecular masses." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilodalton
07:32:40 <sbp> ah, AMU
07:33:02 * sbp wonders why he'd not heard of that before
07:33:23 <nslater> you were probably noting something at the time :p
07:33:32 <sbp> nah
07:33:37 <sbp> I should've learned this in chemistry
07:33:44 <sbp> so too busy breaking glass, I'll bet
07:33:49 <nslater> o_O
07:33:56 <sbp> man, have I not told you that?
07:34:02 <sbp> I must've told you. I've told everyone
07:34:07 <nslater> no, but save it for another time... :) tired
07:34:11 <sbp> my class were just oddly expert at breaking glass for some reason
07:34:11 * nslater -> !irc
07:34:15 <sbp> c'ya!
07:34:20 <nslater> heh, .o/
07:34:40 * sbp looks for reference in logs to embludgeon you with next time
07:35:39 <sbp> huh, can't find any reference in the Swhack logs. very weird
07:35:58 <sbp> did find http://www.bash.org/?856014 again though
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07:39:26 <sbp> Arnia: ping
07:39:56 <Arnia> pong?
07:41:19 <sbp> Arnia: if you could only leave 81 words to posterity, what would they be?
07:41:32 <sbp> like, a scrap of paper in the desert to be found in a few hundred years
07:41:48 <sbp> attribution and whatnot is considered part of the surviving context
07:43:11 <sbp> I ask mainly because I set this as a challenge to myself
07:43:18 <sbp> but I'm finding it frustratingly difficult
07:45:00 <Arnia> "With time comes experience. With experience comes meaning. Let none of us waste those few moments we have, nor squander the joy that comes from living to the utmost of one's abilities. When we pass, all we leave are codified accounts of that which we have seen in order to inform and entertain the next generation of souls. Do not let your experience be wasted on the wind."
07:45:52 <sbp> meta to make the brain to spinne!
07:46:08 <Arnia> Thought you might appreciate that :[
07:46:14 <Arnia> uh.. ':p
07:46:15 <Arnia> '
07:46:22 <sbp> yeah
07:46:30 <sbp> and in the remaining 13 words you could tell a joke or something
07:46:31 <Monty> My head hurts with holding the other party. The innocent party may file a furry :'(
07:46:34 <Arnia> Hm... should stop typing with a laptop on my lap in an easy chair
07:46:50 <sbp> did you just come up with that, or is that based on a thing?
07:46:56 <sbp> .gc "With time comes experience. With experience comes meaning."
07:46:57 <phenny> "With time comes experience. With experience comes meaning.": 0
07:47:02 <Arnia> Just came up with it off the top of my head
07:47:09 <sbp> bloody 'ell
07:47:34 <Arnia> I do have some capacity to write you know :p
07:47:34 * sbp needs to stop setting challenges to himself... :-)
07:48:33 <sbp> well I already knew you're fast at things (cf. Pluvo reverse-engineering), but the ratio of 50ish seconds to however many days or weeks I've been pondering this is grumble-invoking...
07:48:52 <Arnia> Although having written it, I would quite like it as my epitaph if I were to die tomorrow
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07:50:07 <sbp> the first two sentences could make a neat (Latin?) motto
07:50:40 <cre8radix> re
07:52:13 <sbp> yo cre8radix
07:52:37 <cre8radix> yo sbp
07:52:37 <Arnia> sbp: your job is to remember that epitaph in case I die before you :p
07:52:40 <cre8radix> mahman
07:52:52 <sbp> Arnia: okey dokey. I'm AaronSw's virtual executor too
07:53:04 <cre8radix> hrhr
07:53:22 <cre8radix> sbp: i need something from you
07:53:33 <sbp> I've already given you *all* my love, damnit
07:53:37 <sbp> I HAVE NO MORE TO GIVE
07:53:44 <cre8radix> i'm recording for my audioplay "sickurity"
07:54:22 <sbp> Arnia: I'd give you a reciprocal epitaph for me... IF I COULD
07:54:31 <cre8radix> can you send me some of your thoughts about paranoia, fear of terror, surveillance and such?
07:54:38 <sbp> cre8radix: yeah. how much?
07:54:45 <cre8radix> sbp: as you like
07:54:48 <sbp> good timing, since I'm procrastinating liek a moongrasel
07:55:03 <sbp> it has to be in radio form, I presume?
07:55:04 <cre8radix> i'll have to translate it, so don't write a book ;P
07:55:09 <Arnia> sbp: just think about what the most important part of your approach to the world is
07:55:09 <sbp> 'k
07:55:12 <cre8radix> yeah
07:55:34 <cre8radix> 'tis basically an audio collage of german politicians
07:55:41 <sbp> hmm... most important bit...
07:55:42 <cre8radix> people from the street
07:55:48 <cre8radix> and some hackers
07:56:34 <cre8radix> sbp: send me an email...
07:56:40 <cre8radix> thxalot!
07:56:57 <cre8radix> and Arnia
07:57:07 <Arnia> Hm?
07:57:10 <cre8radix> FEEL FREE TO ADD SOME THOUGHTS IFYALIKE
07:57:11 * Arnia hits cre8radix
07:57:26 <Arnia> eloquence has its place
07:57:33 * cre8radix F OODS ARNIA
07:57:48 <Arnia> "The Circle must be broken"
08:00:13 <cre8radix> sbp: i app re:she ate
08:00:19 <cre8radix> :D
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08:06:20 <sbp> cre8radix: sent
08:06:48 <sbp> oh, your email address is broken
08:07:16 <sbp> cre8radix: what should I use instead? (feel free to privmsg or use [off])
08:07:33 <sbp> guess tav finally got disrented of the website dues
08:07:57 <sbp> cre8radix: or if you don't mind it being public, I could pastebin it
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08:12:27 <sbp> cre8radix?
08:13:27 <sbp> n'mind, got your cbase address
08:14:19 * sbp sends it to Arnia too
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08:24:33 <Arnia> danke
08:27:15 <zachb> soo
08:28:08 <Arnia> zachb: What would your 81 words be?
08:29:10 <zachb> Hmm?
08:29:16 * sbp just went through whits trying to find a candidate 81 words, but no joy
08:29:26 <zachb> What are we talking about?
08:29:35 <sbp> 20:13 <sbp> Arnia: if you could only leave 81 words to posterity, what would they be?
08:29:35 <sbp> 20:13 <sbp> like, a scrap of paper in the desert to be found in a few hundred years
08:29:35 <sbp> 20:14 <sbp> attribution and whatnot is considered part of the surviving context
08:29:46 <zachb> Ah
08:29:56 <zachb> I thought only speaking using 81 words
08:29:59 <Arnia> I'm quite satisfied with mine
08:30:18 <chandler> Arnia: what are they?
08:30:28 <sbp> <Arnia> "With time comes experience. With experience comes meaning. Let none of us waste those few moments we have, nor squander the joy that comes from living to the utmost of one's abilities. When we pass, all we leave are codified accounts of that which we have seen in order to inform and entertain the next generation of souls. Do not let your experience be wasted on the wind."
08:30:29 <chandler> oh, I should just be reading logs
08:31:26 <zachb> Heh, I like it
08:32:01 <sbp> ouch, the 115th Semantic Dream is over 500 words
08:32:19 <sbp> if I could compress that into 81 words, that'd be right on
08:36:33 <sbp> “I have nothing to declare but my writer's block.”
08:40:00 * Arnia considers a second epitaph
08:40:06 <_bjoern> "Dear Friend of the American Iranian Council (AIC) ..." - we would I be a friend of any american council?
08:40:09 <Arnia> For my second grave in the country
08:42:27 <Arnia> sbp: What is your most cherished belief?
08:42:59 <_bjoern> It is never inappropriate to reply with nu.
08:43:35 <Arnia> Perhaps something a little more inspiring?
08:43:41 <_bjoern> nu
08:43:58 * Arnia deletes _bjoern
08:44:44 <procto> I like Feynman's
08:44:48 <procto> "everything is made of atoms"
08:44:58 <Arnia> Except electrons
08:45:02 <Arnia> And quarks
08:45:06 <procto> in answer to leaving a hint for regenerating science in case of some catastrophe
08:45:13 <Arnia> and everything which isn't
08:45:37 <procto> the point is to engender reduction explorations of the physical work methinks
08:45:45 <procto> reductionist*
08:45:51 <procto> world*
08:45:59 * Arnia explodes Feynman's corpse
08:47:23 <procto> you're just jealous
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08:48:38 <Arnia> Of being a corpse?
08:49:00 <Arnia> Sometimes, but only when I'm in a zombie-masochism mood
08:50:08 <sbp> Arnia: okay, here's something
08:50:09 <sbp> “There's a biography of Sappho where one or two words have been accidentally torn out of the papyrus, in the only surviving version. Because of that, we don't know exactly how many works she wrote. An old joke says that the Odyssey wasn't written by Homer but another man of the same name. Maybe Theopompus made up the name Herostratus. Once I wrote a poem whose first word was ‘Tottering’; for you to know as much as this is a miracle.”
08:50:49 <_bjoern> You need a less elaborate most cherished belief.
08:51:11 <sbp> I didn't see the cherished belief advice before I wrote that
08:51:18 <sbp> now I'm pondering the cherished belief... :-)
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08:53:01 <chandler> "One: Mathematics is the language of nature. Two: Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. Three: If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature."
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08:54:05 <procto> I'm wondering that message should be self-contained
08:54:09 <procto> or can refer to things
08:54:21 <procto> for example, to get feynman's phrase you need to know what atoms are
08:54:30 <sbp> well, see my premise again
08:54:39 <chandler> good luck making it self contained
08:54:49 <sbp> you have to guess. I gave three hundred years as the approximate date
08:54:54 <procto> well, self-contained to a degree
08:55:01 <procto> for example, if I say "cybernetics"
08:55:02 <procto> which i want to
08:55:09 <procto> what will that mean?
08:55:21 <sbp> for example, I was thinking that people might not understand the reference to Theopompus
08:55:32 <sbp> but then I figured people could probably *guess* even if they didn't know the exact reference
08:55:39 <sbp> which is what we tend to do with lost folk tales and stuff
08:56:11 <sbp> it happens quite a lot in reconstructive literature... actually I'm probably preaching to the superchoir here given what you study :-)
08:56:26 <sbp> I mean you don't know what the pqq-plant is
08:56:32 <sbp> but you know it cures a hangover pretty well
08:56:43 <Arnia> Superchoirs.... iz dat lik super-symmetry?
08:56:52 <sbp> more like musical chairs
08:57:29 * Arnia stops the music
08:57:46 <sbp> *bloomph*
08:57:51 * Arnia sits on an interesting chair shaped like an onion
08:58:03 <sbp> that's no chair, that's a space hopper!
08:58:07 * Arnia realises it is a member of the channel and apologises
08:58:13 <sbp> poor Monty
08:58:17 <Monty> if (octopus == software) { GIMP will never match vast bicycle;}
08:58:42 * Arnia replaces plum with an octopus
08:58:49 <plum> replace with whatever generates the file list, so you can tab in the middle of or highlight a section of text and get a list of replacements from other sentences with its context.
08:59:07 <sbp> chandler: you don't want to use the rest of your words?
09:00:17 <chandler> sbp: no. I think stopping short of 81 words conveys a message too.
09:00:28 <chandler> (of course, does the reader know that I was allowed 81 words?)
09:00:28 <procto> sbp: heh, yeah
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09:03:29 * sbp sends the challenge and the responses so far off to William Loughborough, encouraging him to join in
09:03:44 * sbp learned, in the process, that chandler's name is not Chandler Something
09:05:02 <nsh> procto, chandler, sbp: recommend me a film
09:05:12 <procto> redbelt
09:05:17 <procto> of those in theatres now
09:05:19 <nsh> chandler is an abbreviation of cabbage handler, clearly
09:05:35 <bancus> I thought he actually made candles for a living.
09:05:45 <sbp> nsh: Breakfast at Tiffany's
09:05:50 <procto> nsh: that's your movie recommendation btw, redbelt
09:06:05 <nsh> procto, checking nowser, thanksuns
09:06:30 <nsh> chandler, bancus: opines?
09:07:07 <procto> does it have to be currently showing? I mean, I can recommend stuff nearly endlessly
09:07:16 <chandler> nsh: manchurian candidate, the original (with sinatra)
09:07:17 <nsh> nah anytimes
09:07:19 <procto> any constraints you would like to place? so I can produce optimal results
09:07:30 <nsh> has to been imagination-fueling
09:07:30 <procto> perhaps give me a list of 5 movies you really like
09:07:35 <procto> so I can tune my classifier
09:07:45 <nsh> mm, i have a lack-of-recall issue
09:08:24 <nsh> watched "Primer" the other day, that was pretty impressive
09:10:11 <procto> yarr
09:10:20 <nsh> enjoyed American Gangster, Miller's Crossing, The Prestige was great, V for Vendetta hit the right buttons
09:11:03 <nsh> these are just off the top of my head which is not very representative of relative-enjoyment, on account of aforementioned untriggered-memory-poverty
09:12:02 <procto> watch Paprika
09:12:07 <procto> it's an anime by satoshi kon
09:12:09 <procto> movie
09:12:35 <procto> http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/paprika/trailer/
09:12:55 <nsh> mmm, sounds interesting
09:12:55 <nsh> oh man
09:12:55 <nsh> win win win
09:12:55 <nsh> good recommendation
09:13:13 <nsh> in fact, i have (rather) vague memories of once hearing about something like this
09:13:21 <nsh> but never managed to find it
09:13:38 <procto> I really recommend watching it with a good sound system
09:13:40 <procto> or headphones
09:13:48 <procto> susumu hirasawa (the composer) is not to be wasted
09:13:53 <nsh> noted
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10:32:53 <tschaub> so, I'm doing some logging with phenny, and see \x01ACTION msg \x01 around /me messages - is that what I should expect, or am I doing something wrong with character encoding?
10:33:56 <Jibbler> you should expect that
10:33:56 <phenny> Jibbler: 22 Apr 16:10Z <kpreid> tell Jibbler that Monty should have no complaint with /^\.u /
10:33:59 <Monty> I reckon you touch Mozilla :(
10:38:16 <tschaub> thanks Jibbler
10:38:55 <tschaub> Monty: not sure if that was intended for me, but this is straight from phenny to disk, so no mozilla involved
10:38:57 <Monty> Please don't castrate mains socket!
10:39:01 <tschaub> I see
10:39:07 <Arnia> Monty: eat the badger!
10:39:07 <Monty> win win
10:39:14 <Arnia> plum, hit on Monty
10:39:15 <Monty> laht, im u wanna use PHP?
10:39:18 <plum> Monty, im u wanna cyber? perfdave already masturbates apparently. at least, that's what you said last night. rofl
10:39:21 <Monty> Most of octavia btw. the biggest markets with holes in place
10:43:25 <chandler> Monty: how dare you insult Skoda?!
10:43:27 <Monty> right, I will break into stuff?
10:43:58 <Arnia> Not hard with a Skoda...
10:56:02 <Arnia> Just got an email from someone from LANL asking about RDF-backed programming languages
10:56:04 <Arnia> Huh
10:56:22 * Arnia tries to keep track of his own work. Fails
10:56:45 <mahound> epic fail
10:57:15 <Arnia> He's referring to Adenosine, but I haven't referred to that myself for years
10:57:16 <Arnia> Hm
10:57:20 <Arnia> Literally years
10:57:28 <Arnia> About 4 or 5 actually I think
10:59:40 <nsh> lolwutIs(Adenosine);
11:00:40 <Arnia> Adenosine was a language I discussed for semantic desktop systems. It was a language concept more than a language