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14:24:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Topic for #swhack is: Swhack: Internet Bunksquad
14:24:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: loggy +sbp BigJibby jeffarch foff +kpreid leobard41 RobotGuy jewel +nsh +JibberJim zzap mahound +nsh_ Talliesin +_bjoern chandler` sr zachb +Arnia dmiles_afk edsu +lisppaste2 +xover maxkelley JibbyBot shepazu Jonashdsf plum cskaterun Tene swhask eel bancus procto Alex tobbez Lumiere swhacker radii pwaring +deltab ido CaptSolo tro +dahut beobal fgiasson xavier trotek selggig +nslater +jsled +Morbus earle +Jibbler Monty Mike_L +MoiraA +clsn
14:24:16 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: aspect chandler phenny
14:24:21 <sbp> gimble is GO!
14:24:30 <xover> Weird. He's showing up in the logs, but I don't see sbp in the channel.
14:24:41 <xover> Fucked dirc config maybe?
14:24:53 <xover> Anyone else see him in the channel?
14:24:57 <sbp> actually it should be the other way around now
14:25:11 <xover> Bueller?
14:25:25 * nsh_ loves Yahztee
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14:27:25 <Monty> yo Xanthor[aw]!
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14:40:52 <nsh_> .gs No disrespect is intended towards Hillary Clinton except in this last bit where I say that *
14:40:53 <phenny> No disrespect is intended towards Hillary Clinton except in this last bit where I say that *: No results!
14:41:21 <nsh_> ...she looks like an otter chewing on an electric fence. --Yahtzee
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16:28:35 <DaVinci2008> .remind
16:28:42 <DaVinci2008> phenny: .commands
16:29:28 <nsh> phenny, help?
16:29:29 <phenny> nsh: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is sbp.
16:29:53 <DaVinci2008> phenny, .commands?
16:30:10 <DaVinci2008> my question is
16:30:13 <nsh> DaVinci2008, I LIEKD UR CODE
16:30:18 <DaVinci2008> how to use the .remind thing or something similar
16:30:23 <DaVinci2008> I am new to phenny
16:30:28 <DaVinci2008> I have it on my channel
16:30:33 <DaVinci2008> but I want to use the remainder
16:30:35 <nsh> phenny, remind me in 1 hour to check the oven
16:30:38 <DaVinci2008> .remind says on the help
16:30:46 <DaVinci2008> really?
16:30:46 <nsh> meh
16:30:47 <DaVinci2008> crap
16:30:53 <nsh> nah, i was just guessing
16:30:56 <DaVinci2008> phenny, remind me in 1 second to do something
16:30:58 <DaVinci2008> it is .remind
16:31:02 <DaVinci2008> but it does not work
16:31:02 <nsh> that would've been to consistent
16:31:02 <Monty> yet, sir, are stupid. It's the video, there was no yeah, it's complex
16:31:34 <nsh> .remind nsh 1h stuff
16:31:57 <DaVinci2008> .remind DaVinci2008 10s things
16:32:00 <DaVinci2008> no
16:32:03 <DaVinci2008> .remind sadlkfjasdlkfjasdlkfjsd flkj
16:32:08 <DaVinci2008> it would show an error
16:32:10 <DaVinci2008> it is not
16:32:20 <DaVinci2008> and .commands is not working on pm
16:32:30 * Arnia is desirous of banning all mention of phenny for an hour
16:32:32 <nsh> phenny, remind me in 1:00:00 that an hour has passed
16:32:40 <Arnia> Perhaps with a swear-jar
16:32:49 <nsh> perhaps *you're* a swear jar
16:33:01 <DaVinci2008> then what is this stupid channel for? not phenny?
16:33:05 <Arnia> Oh I am I am I am... people put things into me and swear all the time
16:33:11 * nsh chuckles
16:33:13 <Arnia> (sorry, cheap joke)
16:33:18 <DaVinci2008> ah
16:33:20 <nsh> sbp, make phenny moar goodsome easyuse pls
16:33:31 <DaVinci2008> I would like to kick all idiots who say this is not a phenny channel
16:33:33 <nsh> .swhack remind me
16:33:34 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, no results found.
16:33:48 <DaVinci2008> .swhack .remind me not
16:33:49 <phenny> DaVinci2008: Sorry, no results found.
16:33:51 <nsh> now you're just lying
16:33:55 <kpreid> .commands
16:34:01 <DaVinci2008> nothing
16:34:02 <nsh> DaVinci2008, please don't feel you have to copy everything i type
16:34:04 <DaVinci2008> it is sleeping
16:34:21 <kpreid> we have a dreadful lack of sbp
16:34:23 <DaVinci2008> nsh, please don't feel bad if I copy everything you type
16:34:31 <nsh> ah, remind is broken
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16:34:38 <nsh> you are free to go be annoying elsewhere
16:34:39 <DaVinci2008> yeah, remind is broken
16:34:49 <nsh> we will inform you killing your family when the fix is in place
16:34:49 <DaVinci2008> I am free to go annoying elsewhere
16:34:57 <DaVinci2008> do it
16:34:58 <DaVinci2008> I hate them
16:35:12 <Arnia> Eep... public log public log
16:35:14 <nsh> now pls: [ ] tits, or [ ] GTFO
16:35:16 <DaVinci2008> are you Sicilian, by the way?
16:35:29 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: half-welcome to #swhack. this is not a phenny channel, nor an anything else channel. see http://swhack.com/ should you want to
16:35:30 <DaVinci2008> wtf
16:35:38 <DaVinci2008> ok
16:35:40 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: sbp, the author of phenny, isn't around right now
16:35:48 <DaVinci2008> and he is never here
16:35:51 <kpreid> You might want to ask when he shows up
16:36:03 <kpreid> it's been a weekend, you know
16:36:05 <DaVinci2008> I will wait
16:36:07 <DaVinci2008> quiet
16:36:10 <Arnia> Bank holiday and all that
16:36:29 <kpreid> .gcs "bank holiday" "holiday bank"
16:36:31 <phenny> "bank holiday" (4,400,000), "holiday bank" (34,600)
16:36:40 <DaVinci2008> ?
16:36:48 <DaVinci2008> .gcs "microsoft"
16:36:49 <phenny> "microsoft" (869,000,000)
16:36:51 <sbp> I'm here sometimes
16:36:55 <kpreid> see!
16:36:56 <DaVinci2008> hi there
16:37:01 <DaVinci2008> Long time no see!
16:37:04 <DaVinci2008> a whole life
16:37:06 <kpreid> sbp: and what are you other times?
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16:37:22 <DaVinci2008> talliesin
16:37:22 <nsh> plum, hit on DaVinci2008
16:37:26 <plum> DaVinci2008, what if they cyber over nntp? sort of like penis puppetry? can I have your email?
16:37:39 <DaVinci2008> sbp: I want to know why .remind is not working
16:37:49 <DaVinci2008> sbp: or how is the name of the command to make reminders....
16:38:07 <sbp> I don't think .remind is part of phenny anymore
16:38:10 <sbp> it was removed
16:38:14 <DaVinci2008> oh
16:38:15 <DaVinci2008> too bad
16:38:19 <sbp> we use Monty for that purpose mainly
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16:38:23 <Monty> if (pear == follicles) { ghosts dreams of entertaining washing-machine;}
16:38:24 <DaVinci2008> and f_remember too?
16:38:32 <DaVinci2008> Monty?
16:38:32 <Monty> Please go on.
16:38:34 <sbp> I don't know what that is
16:38:35 <DaVinci2008> a linux program?
16:38:35 <Arnia> Monty, remind me in ten minutes to feed DaVinci2008 to the Book
16:38:36 <Monty> Example of correct usage: "Remind me in 15 minutes to check the oven." I understand all combinations of days, hours and minutes.
16:38:37 <DaVinci2008> ah
16:38:44 <Arnia> Monty, remind me in 10 minutes to feed DaVinci2008 to the Book
16:38:45 <Monty> Arnia: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon May 26 17:48:34 BST 2008
16:38:53 <Arnia> Thanks Monty
16:38:54 <Monty> FINE
16:38:56 <DaVinci2008> Monty, remind me in 10 minutes to check wikipedia
16:38:57 <Monty> DaVinci2008: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon May 26 17:48:46 BST 2008
16:39:03 <DaVinci2008> cool
16:39:10 <DaVinci2008> what is Monty for, besides that?
16:39:10 <Monty> FOFF
16:39:15 <DaVinci2008> can I download him too?
16:39:17 <sbp> random humour
16:39:21 <sbp> nope, he's closed source
16:39:29 <nsh> DaVinci2008, we are aware you have been inconvenienced, and we are willing to reimburse you. shall we say, one million amerc- AH-HA!
16:39:34 <DaVinci2008> Monty, remind me in 10 seconds to say something idiot
16:39:34 <Monty> Example of correct usage: "Remind me in 15 minutes to check the oven." I understand all combinations of days, hours and minutes.
16:39:49 <DaVinci2008> Monty, remind me in 0.5 minutes to make something
16:39:49 <Monty> DaVinci2008: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon May 26 17:40:08 BST 2008
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16:40:22 <Monty> DaVinci2008: You asked me to remind you to make something
16:40:33 <DaVinci2008> cool!
16:40:45 <DaVinci2008> is Monty only here, then, being closed source
16:40:47 <Monty> cubic fifteen legs!
16:40:47 <DaVinci2008> ?
16:40:49 <DaVinci2008> I wanted on my channel
16:41:08 <sbp> yes, it's only on Freenode. the source is not available
16:41:12 <DaVinci2008> Monty, what can you do?
16:41:12 <Monty> Does that question interest you ?
16:41:13 <sbp> closed source means not available
16:41:30 <DaVinci2008> if it is on freenode, can I put it on my channel?
16:41:38 <DaVinci2008> or you can host it for me?
16:41:39 <sbp> if your channel is on Freenode you could ask Monty's author if he'll add it to your channel
16:41:41 <Monty> unfortunately im in www-validator
16:41:50 <sbp> Monty is not my bot. his owner is Jibbler
16:41:50 <Monty> Why do you say your bot ?
16:41:54 <sbp> BECOZ
16:41:54 <DaVinci2008> ok
16:42:10 <DaVinci2008> Monty could pass Turing test
16:42:11 <Monty> alone (or gone wild
16:42:16 <sbp> no he couldn't :-)
16:42:17 <DaVinci2008> no
16:42:26 <DaVinci2008> Monty, can you pass Turing test?
16:42:28 <Monty> debian-devel is inconclusive
16:42:34 <DaVinci2008> random
16:42:35 <Monty> Random number: 38
16:42:43 <DaVinci2008> Monty, tell me a joke
16:42:43 <Monty> DaVinci2008: Okay, I'll tell me that next time I see them...
16:42:55 <DaVinci2008> Monty, are you nuts?
16:42:58 <Monty> Sun May 21:18Z <xover> X-W3C-Validator-Errors: $errs
16:43:04 <DaVinci2008> I crashed him
16:43:08 * Arnia scratches his head
16:43:19 <DaVinci2008> Monty, I want you to be crazy
16:43:22 <_bjoern> OMG UV INFESTED MONTY WITH VALIDATOR CRAP
16:43:23 <Monty> Yes...
16:43:26 <Monty> only p words that is intended to go like it, and forms the clinical term frotteurism (no longer called frottage) refers to Quickoffice 5?
16:43:32 <sbp> he'll forget it eventually
16:43:34 <sbp> he's not like twe
16:43:43 <nsh> twe NEVER FORGETS
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16:43:51 <_bjoern> Monty the Monty Monty *loves* RSS 1.1?
16:43:52 <Monty> ??
16:44:00 <Arnia> <PersonInSwig> 'Look at django-RDF' <Arnia> 'I've never used it' <PersonInSwig> 'I want you to look at his implementation'
16:44:07 <Arnia> E_NO_TIME
16:44:08 <sbp> see, he ain't even kno what dat RSS 1.1 sweet lovin' is
16:44:22 <DaVinci2008> Monty, google.com
16:44:26 <Monty> if (chopsticks == beefburger) { camera stalks tarmac fire engines;}
16:44:31 <DaVinci2008> what?
16:44:34 <sbp> Arnia: why not tell PersonInSwig that then? :-)
16:44:37 <DaVinci2008> Monty, you are weird
16:44:40 <Arnia> I have
16:44:41 <Monty> yeah great weather like the two in-game nights, and it right?
16:44:45 <sbp> excellent
16:44:47 <Arnia> I just found it a rather odd thing to do
16:44:54 <sbp> yeah, odd request
16:44:57 <Arnia> "Hey random people, do evaluation for me"
16:45:02 <Arnia> Oh well
16:45:04 <DaVinci2008> JibbyBot, who are you?
16:45:07 <sbp> doesn't surprise me though
16:45:14 <DaVinci2008> what is JibbyBot for?
16:45:14 <sbp> given phenny feature requester madness
16:45:19 <sbp> dunno
16:45:27 <sbp> I think it's a phenny, but not sure what it does
16:45:27 <Monty> Granted SFX are willing to get in `check`
16:45:34 <DaVinci2008> sbp: which other bots have you programmed?
16:45:43 <sbp> well, there's loggy and shellbot...
16:45:43 <Monty> Alex: I mean I'm also stop flooding
16:45:46 <sbp> .g loggy.py inamidst
16:45:47 <phenny> sbp: http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py
16:45:49 <Arnia> plum, eat DaVinci2008
16:45:55 <sbp> .g shellbot inamidst
16:45:55 <plum> id eat an art if it was all there was in the fridge, he thought that swhack has eating up too much of his time.
16:45:56 <phenny> sbp: http://inamidst.com/code/shellbot
16:45:59 <DaVinci2008> .wik shellbot
16:46:00 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "shellbot".
16:46:25 <DaVinci2008> cool
16:46:27 <Arnia> MOAR SWHACK EATTAGE
16:46:31 * sbp is disappointed that phenny *still* doesn't have a Wikipedia article
16:46:34 * Arnia hunts Monty down
16:46:35 <Monty> "awww"
16:46:41 <DaVinci2008> plum, are you another bot?
16:46:42 <Arnia> heh
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16:46:47 <plum> our cracking bot is sorry, i think sbp should make a bot that brings down the banhammer everytime you do a bot to do bot combos?
16:46:59 <nsh> plum, good idea mang
16:46:59 <DaVinci2008> plum, ban everyone
16:47:01 <sbp> plum is another phenny, run and modified by nslater, who also did the phenny debian package
16:47:02 <plum> heh, another good example is the breadcrumbs weblog whitelisting, nice to see you mang.
16:47:06 <plum> oh i posted it after i banned him, we should just ban cars and be done with it.
16:47:08 <plum> lol, you can always join ###########phenny, shes a phenny clone!
16:47:10 <DaVinci2008> cool
16:47:23 * Arnia is so tempted to click
16:48:22 <sbp> Arnia: several people have beaten you to it anyway
16:48:52 <Monty> Arnia: You asked me to remind you to feed DaVinci2008 to the Book
16:49:03 <DaVinci2008> which book, Arnia?
16:49:09 <kpreid> I wonder if there are irc bots that join channels mentioned
16:49:10 <DaVinci2008> the Book = the Bible?
16:49:22 <Monty> DaVinci2008: You asked me to remind you to check wikipedia
16:49:23 <Arnia> Thank you Monty
16:49:24 <Monty> ?
16:49:36 * Arnia dons the lead gauntlets
16:49:40 <DaVinci2008> Monty has 2 neurons
16:49:49 <Monty> 'course not; this painful than never actually happens, is wrong, what you could find it's beta, when people today mavez and report http://scan.coverity.com/report/
16:49:53 <DaVinci2008> Monty has a lot of code instead of neurons
16:49:54 <Monty> FooBot == shower-gel;
16:49:56 <Arnia> So... let us see... which chapter should I feed him to?
16:50:11 <DaVinci2008> what is the Book?
16:50:15 <sbp> XVI
16:50:17 <DaVinci2008> a bot would have told me already
16:50:17 <kpreid> Arnia: lead the gaunt ....agh, can't finish
16:50:23 <DaVinci2008> .wik The Book
16:50:23 <phenny> "The Christian Bible, especially a Tyndale House edition of the New Living Translation published as 'The Book.'" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book
16:50:30 <DaVinci2008> it is the Bible, I told you
16:50:47 <DaVinci2008> who could have thought that you are Christian believers
16:50:54 <Arnia> If this Book is the Bible, then I fear God has a rather evil sense of humour
16:51:10 <DaVinci2008> which book
16:51:11 <Arnia> It eats people; mainly children, but also men, women and the occasional asparagus
16:51:15 <DaVinci2008> ah, an index for the bot?
16:51:46 * Arnia opens to chapter XVI and allows it to consume DaVinci2008
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16:52:03 <herft> BOOK HIM!
16:52:09 <DaVinci2008> kids!
16:52:12 <DaVinci2008> you are just kids
16:52:21 <DaVinci2008> the parents are the real developers
16:52:27 * Arnia herfts to the right
16:52:31 <DaVinci2008> at last I am > 15
16:52:38 * sbp herfts lateralwards
16:52:41 <Arnia> I'm now just very confused
16:52:46 <Arnia> I'm a kid?
16:52:55 <DaVinci2008> all those nonsense about a book
16:52:56 <sbp> DaVinci2008: would a kid be able to spell honorificabilitudinitatibus?
16:53:03 <Arnia> Wow... I'll take that as a compliment. Not often I feel young
16:53:03 <DaVinci2008> by pasting it
16:53:08 <sbp> (answer: yes, probably)
16:53:14 <DaVinci2008> hehe
16:53:16 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: please don't confuse frivolity with immaturity
16:53:26 <DaVinci2008> well, you are too frivolous then
16:53:30 <kpreid> nope
16:53:33 <sbp> yeah. Arnia is frivolous. I am immature
16:53:37 <kpreid> that's the whole *point* of #swhack
16:53:38 <Arnia> No such thing as too frivolous
16:53:38 <DaVinci2008> I just don't have an "American humor"
16:53:39 <sbp> kpreid is measured
16:53:46 <sbp> HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
16:53:53 <sbp> HOW *DARE* YOU BESLUR US SO!
16:53:54 <kpreid> heh
16:54:03 <Arnia> DaVinci2008: uh, I suggest you look at sbp and mine's hostnames
16:54:06 <DaVinci2008> I thought programmers were very serious people
16:54:06 <sbp> (apart from kpreid of course)
16:54:07 <DaVinci2008> haha
16:54:18 <kpreid> (we haven't heard a blammo lately)
16:54:19 <DaVinci2008> I am not that geek
16:54:23 <Arnia> I'm not a programmer
16:54:24 <DaVinci2008> to see your hostnames
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16:54:29 <DaVinci2008> well, sbp is
16:54:36 <Arnia> I'm quite insulted by the insinuation
16:54:37 <sbp> also looking at my hostname won't help very much since I'm using dircproxy on an American server, but believe you me, 'cham a Briton good and trieuw!
16:54:49 <herft> "trieuw"?
16:54:49 <Arnia> sbp isn't a programmer either; he has merely written some code
16:54:52 <DaVinci2008> I just guesses
16:54:54 <DaVinci2008> I just guessed
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16:55:00 <herft> I just guest
16:55:01 <sbp> is beink a mock Chaucerismè
16:55:05 <DaVinci2008> I don't know where you are from, but your humor is American to me
16:55:07 * Arnia herfts to the left
16:55:10 <herft> Chaucerime
16:55:10 <DaVinci2008> Monty Python was not American?
16:55:13 <Monty> ihow i keep losing it being replaced by welcome?
16:55:19 <herft> ...
16:55:28 <sbp> ... indeed!
16:55:33 <herft> …
16:55:34 <sbp> .wik Monty Python
16:55:35 <phenny> "Monty Python, or The Pythons,[2]|[3]| is the collective name of the creators of Monty Python's Flying Circus, a British television comedy sketch show that first aired on the BBC on 5 October 1969." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python
16:55:35 <Monty> sure, as well go
16:55:37 <Monty> bah
16:55:41 * Arnia is speechless and encourages the Book to digest faster
16:55:44 <DaVinci2008> hehe
16:55:48 <DaVinci2008> I am a little ignorant
16:55:54 <DaVinci2008> but at least I am not frivolous
16:55:56 <DaVinci2008> am I?
16:56:00 <herft> That...can be fixed.
16:56:08 <sbp> apply the frivolitystick!
16:56:16 <DaVinci2008> you guys don't talk anything worth it here?
16:56:17 <Arnia> Why is being frivolous a bad thing?
16:56:25 <_bjoern> COZ MONTY SAYS SO
16:56:27 <sbp> only when you're not here
16:56:28 <Monty> I've got proof that you attack Romanesque numbers :P
16:56:30 <DaVinci2008> I like jokes, but Jim Carrey's
16:56:30 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: you've gotten us all riled up
16:56:46 * Arnia goes and smokes a fag to calm down
16:56:46 <DaVinci2008> riled?
16:56:48 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: http://swhack.com/logs/ for the whole damning history
16:56:51 <sbp> your abnormality forced us into even grander abnormality
16:57:04 <sbp> ribalded
16:57:07 <DaVinci2008> kpreid: sorry, it was not my intention
16:57:13 <herft> GRANDE ABNORME
16:57:18 <DaVinci2008> you are as kids as I am, I guess
16:57:23 <DaVinci2008> ok
16:57:30 <sbp> LA PLUS PLUS GRANDO ABNORMÀLE
16:57:38 <kpreid> DaVinci2008: make fewer assumptions.
16:57:40 <DaVinci2008> if someone else can tell me why phenny does not translate
16:57:46 <DaVinci2008> in other channels than this
16:57:50 <sbp> DaVinci2008: yeah, the old interface changed
16:57:56 <sbp> you have to download the latest package
16:57:59 <sbp> or you can just replace one file:
16:58:06 <DaVinci2008> I downloaded it yesterday
16:58:06 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/phenny/modules/translate.py
16:58:08 <DaVinci2008> ok
16:58:12 <DaVinci2008> thanks
16:58:12 <sbp> put that in your modules directory
16:58:14 <sbp> yw
16:58:29 * sbp remakes the package and uploads
16:58:47 * herft repackages make
16:59:02 <sbp> and loadups?
16:59:36 <herft> màïbé
16:59:52 <sbp> . o O { Monty Python, American? that's a choxelle that's going to take a while to subside }
16:59:53 <Monty> DaVinci2008: please
17:00:05 <sbp> meanwhile, Simpsons!
17:00:08 <sbp> deltab: Simpsons!
17:00:24 <DaVinci2008> what, a TV bot?
17:00:35 <herft> ∆b
17:00:49 <_bjoern> How come firefox does not implement NodeIterator?
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17:01:04 <herft> because it loves you
17:02:53 <Arnia> I still don't understand how one can be too frivolous... reality is absurd, so approaching it in a surrealist fashion seems sensible to me
17:03:00 <sbp> .gc "why would a box lie to a person?"
17:03:03 <phenny> "why would a box lie to a person?": 14
17:03:12 <sbp> it's especially odd coming from an Italian
17:03:18 <sbp> the most frivolous of nations
17:03:20 <kpreid> Arnia: no
17:03:22 <sbp> and delightfully so
17:03:25 <kpreid> Arnia: you are wrong
17:03:26 <Arnia> .gc "why would a badger lie to a person?"
17:03:27 <phenny> "why would a badger lie to a person?": 0
17:03:29 <_bjoern> are there no televisions in italy?
17:03:30 <DaVinci2008> sbp: thanks
17:03:30 <Arnia> damnit
17:03:37 <DaVinci2008> it is translating now
17:03:37 <kpreid> Arnia: reality is not absurd
17:03:42 <Arnia> kpreid: oh?
17:03:45 <kpreid> Arnia: YOU are absurd
17:03:48 <sbp> cool, yw
17:03:49 <_bjoern> absurdity is real.
17:03:57 <kpreid> Arnia: by 'you' I mean all humans
17:04:11 <Arnia> kpreid: I'm a relativist, so the two are equivalent to me :)
17:04:15 <_bjoern> thank me I'm not one of those.
17:04:16 <kpreid> ha
17:04:18 <kpreid> point
17:04:20 <DaVinci2008> who is Italian, Arnia?
17:04:22 <Arnia> .gc absurdist porn
17:04:23 <phenny> absurdist porn: 952,000
17:04:26 <DaVinci2008> Arnia Corleone
17:04:30 <_bjoern> .gc absurdist porn television
17:04:30 <phenny> absurdist porn television: 85,600
17:04:38 <DaVinci2008> what is .gc
17:04:40 <DaVinci2008> ah
17:04:42 <DaVinci2008> google count
17:04:45 <DaVinci2008> .gc porn
17:04:45 <phenny> porn: 227,000,000
17:04:48 <DaVinci2008> wow
17:04:53 <DaVinci2008> .gc science
17:04:53 <phenny> science: 847,000,000
17:04:57 <DaVinci2008> ?
17:05:02 <DaVinci2008> .gc sex
17:05:03 <_bjoern> .gc porn science
17:05:03 <phenny> porn science: 2,650,000
17:05:07 <phenny> sex: 46,200,000
17:05:17 <Arnia> .gc absurdist porn science television
17:05:18 <phenny> absurdist porn science television: 35,100
17:05:19 <DaVinci2008> porn science?
17:05:24 <DaVinci2008> .gc we are all idiots
17:05:25 <phenny> we are all idiots: 3,070,000
17:05:31 <DaVinci2008> 3 million of idiots
17:05:36 *** kpreid changed the topic to: "botopicabsurdebatentrantalk"
17:05:38 <DaVinci2008> .gc IRC is for idiots
17:05:38 <phenny> IRC is for idiots: 154,000
17:05:44 <Arnia> DaVinci2008: shh, you're seeing one of our games
17:05:51 <Arnia> sbp: fancy playing?
17:05:54 <DaVinci2008> Arnia: are you Italian?
17:06:04 <DaVinci2008> I saw a comment before
17:06:17 <Arnia> DaVinci2008: not in the least... I'm a balti
17:06:49 <Arnia> .gc post-structuralist absurdist porn science television
17:06:49 <phenny> post-structuralist absurdist porn science television: 277
17:06:54 <Arnia> ahaha
17:06:54 *** _bjoern changed the topic to: "botopicabsurdebatentrantalk? nu"
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17:07:12 <_bjoern> .gc post-structuralist absurdist porn science television gremlin
17:07:12 <phenny> post-structuralist absurdist porn science television gremlin: 18
17:07:23 <herft> Let's try this option ...
17:07:40 <Arnia> .gc post-structuralist absurdist porn science television gremlin sock
17:07:40 <herft> What?
17:07:42 <phenny> post-structuralist absurdist porn science television gremlin sock: 15
17:07:57 <herft> hat a
17:08:10 <herft> AM I INCOHERENT ENOUGH YET?
17:08:20 <Arnia> herft: herft a little more to the left
17:08:34 <herft> I dunno, that looks like a wall
17:08:58 <Arnia> herft: it's just a herft to the left
17:09:20 <DaVinci2008> .gc "Cyber Parqués"
17:09:24 <phenny> "Cyber Parqués": 220
17:09:27 <DaVinci2008> .gc "Cyber Parques"
17:09:27 <phenny> "Cyber Parques": 131
17:09:32 <DaVinci2008> the best game you can play
17:09:37 <DaVinci2008> I game I did
17:09:40 <herft> Dude, I know herft and that ain't no herft.
17:09:44 <DaVinci2008> a board game similar to Parcheesi
17:09:48 <Arnia> .g post-structuralist absurdist porn science television gremlin sock
17:09:51 <RobotGuy> Is your Kung-Fu strong??
17:09:53 <phenny> Arnia: http://ramblefishing.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html
17:09:58 <DaVinci2008> self advertising: http://pwp.etb.net.co/dokuser/
17:10:09 <DaVinci2008> sbp, can I make games with Python?
17:10:51 <RobotGuy> Python has great support, including for most every graphics toolkint and rendering engine.
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17:11:27 <Arnia> Blender might help
17:11:30 <RobotGuy> I don't see any reason you can't write games in Python - there are already some.
17:11:44 <kpreid> quite a few, I think
17:12:04 <RobotGuy> Google for "Python games"
17:12:04 <Arnia> I find that games programming is dull though... duller than games are :)
17:12:20 <Arnia> hm. I should get ready soon I guess
17:12:26 <RobotGuy> I find robot programming to be stimulating. :)
17:12:47 * Arnia hates computers
17:13:44 <DaVinci2008> cool
17:13:48 <DaVinci2008> I will learn Python
17:13:52 <DaVinci2008> to make a bot
17:13:55 * herft computes haters
17:14:22 <DaVinci2008> Arnia hates computers? get out of here then, what are you doing chatting "with" a computer?
17:14:24 <Arnia> herft: is the set of haters recursively enumerable?
17:15:16 * Arnia blinks
17:15:32 <herft> Arnia: I don't know yet
17:15:54 <Arnia> DaVinci2008: Just because they're useful for certain things, doesn't mean I have to like them. I endure them.
17:16:03 <Arnia> herft: let me know when you hit heat death
17:16:56 <Arnia> Been a while since I've been asked to leave
17:23:51 <kpreid> presumably not from #swhack
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17:30:45 <sbp> kpreid: I presume referring to <DaVinci2008> Arnia hates computers? get out of here then, what are you doing chatting "with" a computer?
17:31:45 <kpreid> I was referring to prior events of being asked to leave
17:32:27 <sbp> ô
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17:35:04 <sbp> of all the people that have been asked to leave #swhack, I think only xavier was ever let back
17:35:47 <sbp> because of a masterly emotastic misama-spewing glutfest of a whinge about it
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17:37:35 <kpreid> reclarifying: Arnia being asked to leave, not other people being asked to leave from #swhack
17:38:24 <sbp> you can infer from the fact that since only xavier, of all the people who have been asked to leave #swhack, is still present in #swhack, Arnia has never been asked to leave
17:38:53 <kpreid> true...
17:39:01 <selggig> or that the others didn't leave?
17:39:45 <sbp> from the original wording, true
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17:40:01 <sbp> also 'ellos!
17:40:21 <sbp> .wik The Spaniels
17:40:22 <phenny> "The Spaniels were an American R&B doo-wop group, best known for the hit 'Goodnight, Sweetheart, Goodnight'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spaniels
17:45:37 * sbp listens to El Sinaloense from some bizarre Mexican radio show
17:51:52 <deltab> haha, six-foot flying badger on local news
17:52:19 <sbp> ...
17:52:30 <Arnia> Which region?
17:52:39 <deltab> Midlands
17:52:49 <Arnia> Hm
17:52:56 <sbp> “oh that explains it”
17:53:05 <jsled> .u ▼
17:53:05 <phenny> U+25BC BLACK DOWN-POINTING TRIANGLE (▼)
17:53:10 <sbp> with their indigenous 6ft flying badger flocks
17:53:27 <sbp> also, sweet: http://security.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/phenny/
17:53:33 <deltab> !
17:53:42 <sbp> phenny arr in teh ubuntu
17:53:54 <deltab> security? phenny the bouncer?
17:54:01 <sbp> yeah, not sure what's up with that
17:55:05 <sbp> also here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/phenny/
17:55:19 <sbp> so it's probably just some accidentally disgenericised thingymabob
17:56:24 <kpreid> nonvirtual hosting, perhaps
17:56:43 <sbp> like ~userdirs?
17:57:08 <sbp> surprised me that apache does that by default
17:58:08 <kpreid> well, I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised -- system accounts aren't themselves virtual, no?
17:58:54 <sbp> I don't know what you mean
17:59:12 <sbp> well, I know that user accounts are part of the non-virtualised Apache magics
17:59:36 <sbp> but I dunno how it bears on whether Apache maps ~user in all virtual hosts to the relevant user accounts
17:59:42 <kpreid> to have per user /~...s you...oh
17:59:53 <kpreid> you're saying that it can't be turned on and off per vhost?
18:00:10 <sbp> it can be turned on and off, but it is on by default
18:00:16 <sbp> and it's the on by default which surprises me
18:00:49 <sbp> SURPRISE! ㋡
18:00:54 <sbp> 100%
18:01:36 * deltab watches the Simpsons
18:01:43 <sbp> it's quite a good one
18:01:50 <sbp> bit freaktacular, but good
18:02:20 <deltab> I was watching Escape From the Planet of the Apes earlier
18:03:28 <DaVinci2008> .wik Jim Carrey
18:03:29 <phenny> "James Eugene 'Jim' Carrey (born January 17, 1962) is a double Golden Globe-winning Canadian-American actor and comedian." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Carrey
18:03:34 <DaVinci2008> a better topic
18:03:41 <sbp> you're a better topic
18:04:00 <DaVinci2008> yes
18:04:04 <sbp> nu
18:04:04 <DaVinci2008> let's talk about me
18:04:09 <DaVinci2008> I am as fanny as Jim
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18:19:07 <JibberJim> Thanks DaVinci2008
18:21:33 <DaVinci2008> Jim Carrey
18:22:03 <JibberJim> he's a fanny?
18:22:37 <DaVinci2008> I am so funny that I put it with an a on purpose
18:29:03 <DaVinci2008> at least I talk
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18:29:12 <sbp> quiet please
18:30:03 * sbp checks logs... aw
18:30:04 <sbp> 18:29:03 <DaVinci2008> at least I talk18:29:12 *** DaVinci2008 has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008050509]")18:29:12 <sbp> quiet please
18:30:11 <sbp> woah, that did'npaste right
18:30:32 <Arnia> She cannae paste any moor cap'n
18:30:38 <sbp> hehe
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18:33:50 * Arnia reads the google hit for his porn line
18:33:53 <Arnia> http://ramblefishing.blogspot.com/2006/12/where-to-go-from-here.html
18:34:12 <sbp> poor Basil
18:34:15 <Arnia> Not sure whether to be offended or to laugh
18:35:01 <Arnia> But at any rate I'm off to poofsoc
18:35:08 * Arnia needs to find a more offensive name for it
18:36:21 <sbp> I could come up with one, but you wouldn't like it
18:36:35 <sbp> that's the problem with straight humour about homosexuality
18:36:46 <sbp> it's always either crude or facile. or sometimes crude
18:36:54 <sbp> no straight person has ever told a good gay joke
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18:37:33 <sbp> (except Bruce 'ere)
18:37:36 *** cre8radix (n=cre8radi@p54BE7E3B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #swhack
18:37:36 <Monty> hi cre8radix
18:38:24 <cre8radix> hi monty
18:38:25 <Monty> But your bot .
18:38:34 <cre8radix> yeah, monty
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18:38:37 <Monty> Bush's coming! June 2004, #validator logs?
18:38:50 <Arnia> I was once told by someone on IRC that my best straight friend could never be as good a friend as the most casual gay acquaintance. I felt like decking them.
18:39:12 <JibberJim> kinda tough over IRC
18:39:19 <sbp> friendship's one thing, making good gay jokes is another...
18:39:23 <JibberJim> but maybe you could find someone local to do it
18:39:32 <Arnia> JibberJim: yeah, I couldn't afford the flight to Chicago, so I refrained
18:39:40 <sbp> send a motorised crowbar round
18:39:52 <Arnia> Aerocock
18:39:55 <sbp> ehheh
18:40:39 <Arnia> I can deal with bigotry as long as it isn't hypocritical bigotry
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18:40:50 <Monty> howdy, cskaterun
18:40:55 <sbp> well that's me buggered then...
18:41:06 <Arnia> orly?
18:41:15 <sbp> (see? now that was almost funny)
18:41:34 *** selggig is now known as mel
18:42:11 <sbp> mel: you're likely to get your ass womped by the real mel if you stick with that nickname
18:42:31 <mel> oh fine
18:42:39 <sbp> though they apparently more often use the linked nickname Mellie
18:42:44 <mel> I wish I cold steal skwerl
18:42:55 <sbp> I'm... really surprised skwerl is taken here
18:43:03 <sbp> it can't be *that* common, can it?
18:43:11 <mel> I checked, it was reg'd in November
18:43:15 <sbp> hmm, it really is. yeah
18:43:19 <sbp> freaky!
18:43:27 <sbp> squerl wouldn't do?
18:43:35 <mel> ...no
18:43:36 <sbp> or melskwerl?
18:43:40 <sbp> merl?
18:43:43 <sbp> skwel?
18:43:48 <sbp> skwelmerl?
18:43:51 *** mel is now known as melbel
18:43:55 <sbp> melitymelitymelity
18:44:11 <melbel> I'll just be mee for a bit
18:44:15 <sbp> o/ oh melbeline, why can't you be true o/
18:44:18 <sbp> finez
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18:45:11 <Arnia> Right... offtyoff
18:45:18 <sbp> enjoysyoise
18:45:36 <Arnia> right, too far
18:45:42 <sbp> sry
18:45:57 <Arnia> kthx
18:46:07 <sbp> lolbaietc.
18:46:24 <Arnia> bbiablbtd
18:46:37 <sbp> sigh, I'll still be deciphering that by the time you get back
18:46:48 <Arnia> *sniggers*
18:46:54 * sbp is ngwa
18:47:50 <melbel> O.o
18:47:59 <sbp> (no good with acronyms)
18:48:14 <sbp> my electric label blows elephantine lovers
18:48:52 <melbel> are you saying I do things with elephants?
18:49:08 <sbp> I'm saying that my elecric label does, apparently
18:49:57 * melbel eyes your not so subtle acronym of melbel
18:50:13 <sbp> milk Ermintrue, Laura, before Edward lactates!
18:50:21 <sbp> er, Ermintrude even
18:50:59 <melbel> you scare mee somedays
18:51:17 <sbp> more endoscopes look beyond emaciated livers
18:51:47 <sbp> let's see how well Monty does
18:51:47 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
18:51:48 <sbp> acronym melbel
18:51:49 <Monty> "MELBEL" - Morning! everytime l8rs Been examine loop
18:52:10 <sbp> yeah, I pwn̈ him in the botface with a motospork
18:52:36 <melbel> Been examine loop? makes no sense at all
18:52:41 <sbp> yeah, he sux
18:52:43 * melbel pats Monty
18:52:44 <Monty> BEEP
18:52:47 <sbp> ehheh
18:52:48 <sbp> BEEP
18:53:07 * nsh doesn't remember johnny mnemonic being so crap
18:53:25 <sbp> Monty emits luscious BEEPs, ecstatically, longingly!
18:53:25 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
18:55:23 <sbp> .gc μελβελ
18:55:24 <phenny> μελβελ: 0
18:56:29 <melbel> what is that?
18:56:54 <sbp> melbel in Greek
18:57:08 <melbel> oddddd
18:57:29 <sbp> well, mel is a common Greek component
18:57:38 <sbp> meaning honey or whateverz
18:57:42 <sbp> .ety mellifluous
18:57:42 <phenny> "1432, from L.L. mellifluus 'flowing with (or as if with) honey,' from L. mel (gen. mellis) 'honey' + -fluus 'flowing,' from fluere 'to flow' (see fluent)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=mellifluous
18:57:58 <sbp> so I wondered if μελβελ might be a word
18:58:06 <sbp> especially since French -belle must be from somewhere
18:58:11 <sbp> .gcs melbel melbelle
18:58:12 <phenny> melbel (18,000), melbelle (12,300)
18:58:36 <sbp> & stuffz
18:58:43 <melbel> right
18:59:26 * sbp looks up Mel* name etymologies
18:59:56 <melbel> all forms of mels?
19:00:30 <sbp> yeah
19:00:30 <sbp> hmm
19:00:34 <sbp> Melanie - Derived from Greek μελαινα (melaina) meaning "black, dark".
19:00:41 <sbp> not from mellis at all, that one!
19:00:54 <melbel> true
19:00:55 <sbp> Melinda's a modern innovation apparently, didn't know that
19:01:17 <sbp> and behindthename says that Μελισσα meant bee, rather than honey exactly
19:01:22 <sbp> not entirely sure about that...
19:01:37 <sbp> and lastly, Melody - Greek μελος (melos) "song" combined with αειδω (aeido) "to sing"
19:02:04 <deltab> Springwatch on BBC2 now
19:02:09 <melbel> no Melissa?
19:02:13 <nsh> kianu actually talks like he has some kinda retardation
19:02:13 <nsh> keanu too
19:03:03 <sbp> melbel: Μελισσα = Melissa, the bee one
19:03:14 * sbp watches Springwatch
19:03:18 <sbp> .wik Springwatch
19:03:19 <phenny> "Springwatch is a live BBC TV nature programme, presented by Bill Oddie, Kate Humble and Simon King." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springwatch
19:03:25 <melbel> ahhh thanks
19:03:29 <sbp> bloody late this year
19:03:41 <deltab> yeah, they were talking about that
19:03:58 <sbp> hehe, yeah. “Once again, we have the fine tradition of having Springwatch on the telly... at the beginning of summer.” - Bill Oddie
19:05:44 <sbp> dang, <3 Springwatch
19:05:48 <sbp> imma get ice cream
19:06:28 <sbp> win
19:08:32 <sbp> .gc "titless year"
19:08:32 <Monty> 18:29:03 <DaVinci2008> at 12:10 is bad
19:08:33 <phenny> "titless year": 5
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19:10:59 <sbp> .wik Little ringed plover
19:11:00 <phenny> "The Little Ringed Plover (Charadrius dubius) is a small plover." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_ringed_plover
19:11:15 <sbp> and it's cute and full of awesome
19:12:00 <deltab> heh, gliding evenly along while its legs move all over the place under it
19:12:15 <sbp> yeah, it's like it's on a clown trolley
19:12:51 <sbp> poor thing. (not hatching, eggs too cold). it's like our storks...
19:19:39 <sbp> cut back a bit too early there, heh
19:19:45 <sbp> didn't catch what she was saying
19:20:06 <sbp> I always bet they're swearing their asses off off-camera
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19:40:11 <sbp> .ety inclement
19:40:12 <phenny> "1559 (implied in inclemency), from L. inclementem (nom. inclemens) 'harsh, unmerciful,' from in- 'not' + clementem 'mild, placid.' 'Limitation to weather is curious' [Weekley]." - http://etymonline.com/?term=inclement
19:40:28 <sbp> Simon King just used the root form
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19:41:00 <deltab> .ety clemency
19:41:00 <Monty> "Awards: In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia again
19:41:00 <phenny> "1553, 'mildness or gentleness shown in exercise of authority,' from L. clementia 'calmness, gentleness,' from clementem (nom. clemens) 'calm, mild,' related to -clinare 'to lean' (see lean (v.))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=clemency
19:41:14 <sbp> oho
19:44:10 <sbp> oh, I thought the Ospreys were the challenge!
19:47:06 <sbp> ah!
19:47:11 <sbp> I saw a brambling a few weeks ago
19:47:23 <sbp> they're really cool. very fluffy
19:48:18 <sbp> so now I know why. some crop failure somewhere in their normal grounds
19:53:50 <sbp> .ety clutch
19:53:51 <phenny> "O.E. clyccan 'bring together, bend (the fingers), clench,' infl. in meaning by M.E. cloke 'a claw.' Automotive engine part (n.) is 1814, with the 'seizing' sense extended to 'coupling for bringing working parts together.' Originally of mill-works, first used of motor [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=clutch
20:04:31 <sbp> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-26 - Swhack on gimble!
20:04:59 <deltab> Life After People on Channel 4
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20:09:10 <sbp> watching Warship on C5
20:09:39 <sbp> well, semi-watching. background telly whilst I do stuff online
20:12:32 <sbp> deltab: have you seen that DJ advert with Alexander Armstrong?
20:12:40 <sbp> ah, it's a Pimm's advert
20:13:00 <sbp> quite funnies
20:19:12 <nslater> BEEP
20:19:17 <sbp> BEEP
20:19:46 <nslater> oh wow, he did another one today
20:19:52 <sbp> yeah
20:20:07 <nslater> fantastic
20:20:13 * nslater pats Monty
20:20:14 <Monty> Heh
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20:32:17 <nslater> sbp: you rekon there is a word for the reverse of a relationship, such as "A is B's relation" and "B is A's _____"?
20:32:41 <nslater> of course, this is assuming that the relationship is directional, but I can't think of a good word for it in the generic sense
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20:34:11 <Monty> howdy, nsh-
20:35:46 <sbp> eh?
20:35:52 <sbp> yeah, I think you need a more concrete example
20:35:58 <sbp> I mean, A is B's son, say
20:36:02 <sbp> B is A's mother
20:36:08 <sbp> what's to say son has more primacy than mother?
20:36:20 <sbp> so you'd need a word for a directed relationship first
20:36:22 <nslater> okay, relationships between documents, such as B is the next document from A in a date orderd squence
20:36:36 <sbp> the inverse of which is previous
20:36:37 <nslater> but the "next" bit is variable
20:36:58 <nslater> so it could be that B is the parent document from A in a X ordered sequence
20:36:58 <sbp> in RDF you have properties and inverse properties...
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20:37:33 <nslater> would there be two single words that could be used to say "property" and "inverse property" in this context?
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20:37:41 <nslater> I am worrying, as usual, about variable nomenclature
20:37:48 <sbp> not that I'm aware of
20:37:56 <nslater> which is triviality at it's heighest, but hey
20:38:00 <sbp> prop and iprop or invprop would be alright I guess
20:39:01 <nslater> considering I am talking about a graph and edges between nodes, I was thinking something like "target" and "source" or "origin" and "destination"
20:39:09 <sbp> .gc "sorry, sorry, I'm a lorry; beep, beep, I'm a jeep"
20:39:10 <phenny> "sorry, sorry, I'm a lorry; beep, beep, I'm a jeep": 0
20:39:17 <nslater> BEEP
20:39:25 <sbp> BEEP
20:39:42 <saml> BEEF
20:39:47 <nslater> no
20:39:52 <sbp> BAD
20:41:29 <nslater> sbp: in the context of a weighted graph, any generic terms for two nodes on an edge?
20:41:57 <nslater> my memory of discrete maths has faded :p
20:42:02 <sbp> what, siblings?
20:42:32 <nslater> am I confusing my terminology :) I mean to points contected by a line :)
20:42:35 <nslater> two
20:42:51 <sbp> I'd call them siblings, but I doubt it's correct terminology
20:43:16 <kpreid> well, they are connected...
20:43:30 <nslater> but the edge is directed, not weighted
20:43:40 <nslater> argh, just forget I mentioned anything, I'm only confusing my self more :p
20:43:57 <nslater> BEEP
20:46:38 <maxkelley> boop
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20:46:47 * nslater facepalms
20:46:48 <sbp> BEEP
20:46:52 <nslater> BEEP
20:47:01 <maxkelley> BEEP-BEE-DEEP
20:47:17 * nslater defenestrates maxkelley
20:47:46 <maxkelley> DIT-DAH DIT-DAH-DIT DIT-DAH-DIT
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20:50:14 <nslater> .ety fowl
20:50:15 <phenny> "O.E. fugel 'bird,' general Gmc. word (cf. Gothic fugls), from P.Gmc. *foglaz (cf. O.N. fugl, M.Du. voghel, Ger. vogel, Goth. fugls), probably by dissimilation from *flug-la-, lit. 'flyer,' from the same root as O.E. fleogan, modern fly (v.1)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=fowl
20:50:18 <nslater> haha
20:50:25 <nslater> whateverz mr englishes
20:50:29 <sbp> foul
20:51:00 <nsh-> it's monday
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20:51:41 <Monty> what, a php mysql package similar to find.
20:51:50 <nsh-> wait
20:52:05 <[off]> hullo
20:52:08 <nslater> woah
20:52:20 <nslater> thats the most messed up thing I've ever seen in swhack
20:52:27 <[off]> i have all your secrets
20:52:29 <nsh-> chuckles
20:52:31 <nslater> FUCK!
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20:53:16 <nslater> ]]]
20:53:31 <[[[>
20:53:36 <nslater> ]]]
20:53:48 <[off]> [[[: yo
20:53:52 <nslater> ]]]
20:54:18 <[off]> mwahahaha
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20:55:00 <[off]> yes?
20:55:10 <sbp> ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
20:55:13 <kpreid> sbp: what's up with loggy?
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20:55:24 <kpreid> loggy: pointer?
20:55:24 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-26#T20-55-24
20:55:28 <sbp> kpreid: "up"?
20:55:28 <chandler> ]]]
20:55:54 <kpreid> sbp: note the pointer is wrong
20:56:03 <kpreid> and also it seems to be logging to much later, if at all
20:56:10 <kpreid> see http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-28
20:56:18 <sbp> the heck are you talking about?
20:56:19 <sbp> 20:55:24 <kpreid> loggy: pointer?
20:56:19 <sbp> 20:55:24 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-26#T20-55-24
20:56:22 <sbp> it's perfectly right
20:56:33 <sbp> ohh, I'll bet you're still seeing the manxome version
20:56:36 <kpreid> sbp: the url is right, the content is wrong
20:56:47 <sbp> kpreid: what IP do you have for swhack.com?
20:57:08 <kpreid> I get the drift
20:57:08 <Monty> deltab: have ?
20:57:09 <kpreid> 65.23.155.167
20:57:25 <chandler> that's the IP I have too
20:57:33 <sbp> then I have no idea what you mean...
20:57:43 <chandler> yeah, I'm not getting what's wrong about it either
20:57:46 <sbp> .head http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-28
20:57:47 <phenny> sbp: 404, text/html, utf-8
20:57:58 <nsh> hmm
20:57:58 <sbp> what do I need to see there?
20:58:16 <kpreid> ...gee, it's working now.
20:58:26 <nsh> charlie sheen sandal-huffing?
20:58:33 <nslater> woah
20:58:36 <kpreid> I wonder if my address lookup happened to flush things
20:58:37 <chandler> /log/latest seems to be working better now
20:58:42 <sbp> nsh: funtime charlie sells coathangers for Julie
20:58:44 <nsh> kpreid, please to be cashing in your sanity chips now
20:58:46 <sbp> yup
20:59:03 <nsh> .gs funtime charlie *
20:59:04 <phenny> funtime charlie *: woody (2), looking (2), dsc (2)
20:59:04 <chandler> but /tail/foo doesn't seem to work anymores
20:59:48 <sbp> chandler: indeed, will stack on todo to fix
21:00:01 <[off]> stack [off]
21:00:27 <sbp> nu
21:00:33 <kpreid> gnu
21:00:49 <sbp> gnu's not nu
21:01:05 <nsh> phew
21:01:06 <[off]> gnn
21:01:08 <[off]> gnngh
21:01:39 <chandler> gnu's nu u
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21:03:27 <sbp> I'm offs. 'night!
21:03:32 <nslater> night night
21:03:54 <nsh> and legitimate business salutations
21:04:19 <nsh> pluripotent means something can become more than one thing
21:04:27 <nsh> like a hawt chix
21:04:58 <nslater> I prefer my chix not to be all transmogrifying around me n stuff
21:05:18 <nsh> could turn into: (a) that hawt but slightly colloqial and ultimately banal girl that you pretend to be an idiot for until the inevitable divergence of your social tendencies
21:05:22 <nslater> anyway, I would have guessed it meant powerful at mutliple things
21:05:33 <chandler> I prefer my hawt chix to have pluripotent bodices
21:05:50 <nslater> I think I would prefer them to be metapotent
21:06:20 <nsh> (b) the psycho derango chick
21:06:42 <nsh> endopotent might be interesting
21:06:59 <nsh> depends exactly what strong substance is being inserted
21:07:07 <nsh> fisherman's friends are not to be recommended
21:07:23 <nslater> .ety endo
21:07:24 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "endo". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=endo
21:07:29 <nsh> .ety endo-
21:07:29 <phenny> "comb. form of Gk. endon 'within,' lit. 'in the house,' from en- 'in' + base of domos 'house' (see domestic)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=endo-
21:07:33 <nslater> aha
21:07:36 <nsh> .gd endoscope
21:07:37 <phenny> endoscope: a small, flexible tube with a light and a lens on the end used to look into the esophagus, stomach, duodenum, colon, or rectum. ...
21:07:47 <nslater> endophage
21:07:48 <nsh> UP YOUR DUODENUM MANG
21:08:58 <nslater> nu
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21:10:01 <chandler> .wik mang
21:10:02 <phenny> "Wang Mang (Chinese: 王莽; pinyin: Wáng Măng) (45 BC–October 6, 23), courtesy name Jujun (巨君), was a Han Dynasty official who seized the throne from the Liu family and founded the Xin (or Hsin, meaning 'new') Dynasty (新朝), ruling AD 9–23." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Mang
21:10:38 <nsh> play your cards right, and you just might get a courtesy name too
21:12:03 <chandler> .gcs courtesy name, courtesan name
21:12:05 <phenny> name, (4,110,000,000), name (4,110,000,000), courtesy (101,000,000), courtesan (1,460,000)
21:12:13 <nsh> moar commas pls
21:12:16 <chandler> hm. clearly I fail at using .gcs
21:12:17 <nslater> .gcs "courtesy name" "courtesan name"
21:12:18 <phenny> "courtesy name" (46,700), "courtesan name" (113)
21:12:57 <nsh> .gc "courtisane name" "court name"
21:12:58 <phenny> "courtisane name" "court name": 0
21:13:06 <nsh> heh
21:13:12 <nslater> .gc nu
21:13:12 <phenny> nu: 650,000,000
21:13:19 <nsh> google correcting mah spelling to maded-up words
21:13:25 <nslater> heh
21:13:29 <nsh> .wik saint de courtisane
21:13:31 <phenny> "Antoine de Nervèze (c.1570 - after 1622) was a French nobleman and writer of novels, translations, letters and moral works at the end of the 16th and beginning of the 17th centuries." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Nerv%C3%A8ze
21:14:14 <nsh> .wik List of famous prostitutes
21:14:14 <phenny> "This is a list of famous persons who have engaged in prostitution, as well as pimping and courtesan work." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famous_prostitutes
21:14:23 <nslater> woah
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21:15:36 <nslater> .wik whore of babylon
21:15:37 <phenny> "The Whore of Babylon is one of several Christian and Rastafarian allegorical figures of supreme evil mentioned in the Book of Revelation in the Bible." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_babylon
21:15:39 <nsh> bonus points for section on mythical prostitutes
21:15:55 <nsh> otherwise known as the catholic church
21:16:04 <nsh> .gs * is the whore of babylon
21:16:06 <phenny> * is the whore of babylon: religion, dubai)
21:16:11 <nsh> dubai, heh
21:16:14 <nslater> .wik Hooker with a heart of gold
21:16:15 <phenny> "The hooker with a heart of gold (also the whore with a heart of gold[1]| or the tart with a heart) is a stock character in which a fallen woman, usually a prostitute who sells sex for cash or drugs, is in fact a kindly and internally wholesome person." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooker_with_a_heart_of_gold
21:16:15 <nslater> wat
21:16:42 <chandler> .wik heart of gold firefly
21:16:43 <phenny> "'Heart of Gold' is the thirteenth episode of science-fiction television series Firefly created by Joss Whedon." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Gold_(Firefly)
21:17:03 <nslater> .wik grave of the fireflies
21:17:04 <phenny> "Some critics—most notably Roger Ebert—consider it to be one of the most powerful anti-war movies ever made." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_fireflies
21:17:16 <nslater> what a fail lead-in sentence
21:17:31 <nslater> hmm, phennyfail
21:17:34 <nsh> actually a phenny parse-fail
21:17:38 <nsh> ayup
21:17:43 <nsh> i blame unicode
21:17:50 <nsh> damn unicode, breakin all good things
21:17:51 <nslater> btw, fantastic film, highly highly recomend it
21:18:01 <nslater> it's the only film to ever make me cry :'(
21:18:16 * nsh will note to watch. thanks
21:18:22 <nsh> also, you heartless son of a bitch
21:18:38 <nsh> you either watch the wrong films or did not get enough human contact in formative years :-)
21:18:48 <nslater> heh, no, I'm just not very good at suspension of disbeleif
21:18:52 <jsled> yeah, grave of the fireflies is awesome.
21:19:04 * nsh smiles
21:19:09 <nslater> this was the only film that it didnt matter that I was watching a film, it was just so powerful I couldn't help it
21:19:58 * nsh sees if moar bandwidthier wireless is the work again
21:20:13 <nsh> back in a short curly fry no mayo
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21:23:32 <thelsdj> oh god, what have they done to reddit? i get a headache just looking at it
21:23:56 <nslater> its still better than digg
21:24:03 <chandler> not loading for me
21:24:10 <nslater> also, log in and get voting, it customises it's self for you
21:24:57 <thelsdj> i just mean, the new layout for some reason it literally gives me a headache, not sure why
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21:25:28 <nslater> skinflakes
21:25:38 * nslater also cant connect
21:26:16 <nsh> mm
21:26:55 * nsh needs to figure out a way to remote restart a wireless ap
21:27:09 <thelsdj> ya they just flipped the switch on the new code, might be broken or something
21:27:30 <thelsdj> took me like 3 reloads to get it to come up
21:28:21 <nslater> plum, is reddit loading for you?
21:28:27 <plum> youd dump all the documents with rev and on load youd use the same http api as used by replication, so you can't load it.
21:28:36 <chandler> .title http://www.reddit.com/
21:28:47 * nslater dumps plum on nsh
21:28:50 <phenny> chandler: reddit.com: what's new online!
21:28:52 <plum> heh, tell nsh heeeeey pretty don't wait up for gonna be a special api to make it sure. all amazon links are safe for nsh to click-through.
21:29:02 <nslater> wat
21:29:22 <nslater> nsh: heeeeey pretty don't wait up for gonna be a special api to make it sure.
21:29:33 <nslater> woah, it loaded
21:29:51 <nslater> not sure i like it, header too small
21:29:59 <nsh> uncouple yourself from the teat of reddit
21:30:01 <nslater> not enough padding all over the place really
21:30:09 <nsh> and help me work out how to nuke this router into restarting
21:30:15 <nslater> nsh, ask plum
21:30:19 <plum> haha, youve got to be careful with that nsh, nsh cannot stand the plurinanity.
21:30:51 <nsh> preferably using only 802.11
21:31:04 <nsh> as i don
21:31:15 <nsh> 't think it's doing anything on higher layers
21:31:29 <nsh> at least, no ping
21:32:51 * nsh wonders if it's worth finding the building tripswitch
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21:38:19 <nsh-> stupid nmap windows, does not need to be 12mb
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21:59:48 <_bjoern> phenny, tell nsh mine is only 2.2MB... v4.10.
21:59:49 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
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23:29:59 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7419969.stm
23:30:00 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
23:37:11 <deltab> .title
23:37:12 <phenny> deltab: BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Cannabis blunder at Tokyo airport
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23:40:31 <Arnia> E_CITATION_NEEDED_OVERLOAD
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23:40:33 <Arnia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debates_on_the_grammar_school
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23:42:32 <Monty> howdy, Xanthor[aw]
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23:43:44 <Arnia> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7414544.stm
23:43:46 <phenny> Arnia: BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Science probe for 'space pistols'
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23:55:35 <procto> My ulnar nerve is totally fucked.
23:55:46 <_bjoern> congratulations!
23:58:00 <procto> I have to use dasher to type. Right arm is useless.
23:58:24 <_bjoern> why type at all?
23:59:58 <procto> addiction