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00:40:04 <Arnia> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6SLOuIRIk
00:40:05 <phenny> Arnia: YouTube - Demolition Call
00:40:18 <Arnia> Very worth watching...
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00:49:21 <Arnia> phenny, tell sbp to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6SLOuIRIk
00:49:21 <phenny> Arnia: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:49:55 * MorbusIff sticks a slightly revised theme on disobey.colm.
00:50:03 <MorbusIff> solid background colors. yay
00:50:03 <Monty> aye
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00:55:36 <Arnia> Hey Monty
00:55:37 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
00:55:49 <Arnia> Monty: a greeting, by way of convention
00:55:55 <Monty> mmm cats like its way to record calls it is: the omg meter has no catches at Atlanten High Street banks say.
00:56:10 <bsh> .g "omg meter"
00:56:11 <phenny> bsh: http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/forum/messages/6901/2060.html?1132192724
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01:10:32 <zachb> .gc OMG porn
01:10:33 <phenny> OMG porn: 541,000
01:21:22 <chandler> .gc omg barbeque porn
01:21:23 <phenny> omg barbeque porn: 94,200
01:24:43 <chandler> .gc omg uml mof emf sysml porn
01:24:44 <phenny> omg uml mof emf sysml porn: 5
01:24:53 <chandler> .g omg uml mof emf sysml porn
01:24:54 <phenny> chandler: No results found for 'omg uml mof emf sysml porn'.
01:25:13 <chandler> violence!
01:25:57 <chandler> .g omg uml mof emf sysml
01:25:58 <phenny> chandler: http://osdir.com/ml/db.axion.devel/2006-11/msg00003.html
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02:11:11 <jsled> .title http://www.meany.colm/
02:11:13 <phenny> Can't connect to http://www.meany.colm/
02:12:03 <jsled> .wik colm meany
02:12:05 <phenny> "Colm J. Meaney (Irish: Colm Ó Maonaigh; first name pronounced /ˈkɒləm/[1]| born May 30, 1953) is an Irish actor widely known for playing Miles O'Brien in Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_Meaney
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02:50:53 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp wow http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/wiki/
02:50:53 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:52:22 <chandler> .title http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=Goatse&to=Jerry+Falwell
02:52:36 <phenny> chandler: Shortest path from Goatse to Jerry Falwell
02:52:54 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp i found this link via 4chan, of all places! :p
02:52:55 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:54:29 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp :p http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=William+Howard+Taft&to=Semantic+Web
02:54:30 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:56:19 <nslater> lol http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=Dave+Winer&to=Feces
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05:25:35 <procto> I won pub trivia tonight
05:25:40 <procto> first time I ever played
05:31:07 <Mike_L> procto: congrats
05:33:08 <procto> thanks :>
05:33:12 <procto> won $50!
05:33:20 <Mike_L> sweet
05:33:21 <procto> that's like 10 euro
05:35:00 <Mike_L> heh
05:35:19 <Mike_L> more like 30 Euros
05:41:32 <procto> I know :> exaggerating for comedic effect :>
05:41:44 <Mike_L> cool, Ghana revalued its currency, the Cedi, dividing by 10,000
05:42:00 <Mike_L> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghanaian_cedi
05:42:05 <procto> that's a nice straightforward methodolocy
05:43:11 <Mike_L> it went from ₵9500 = $1 USD to 1.01596 GHS = 1.0 USD
05:43:24 <ja> no shit, floating currency floated?
05:43:30 <ja> call me dumbfounded
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06:06:00 <xover> Arnia: That's hillarious.
06:06:41 <xover> Worst thing is, I think I know this girl; she's “a bit” older now, but she still likes to blow stuff up. :-)
06:06:42 <Monty> Phenny IRC Hacks
06:06:59 <xover> That your new O'Reilly book Monty?
06:07:01 <Monty> magnifies Icelandic devilish xterm...
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07:17:21 <sbp> yo
07:17:21 <phenny> sbp: 00:49Z <Arnia> tell sbp to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6SLOuIRIk
07:17:22 <phenny> sbp: 02:50Z <nslater> tell sbp wow http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/wiki/
07:17:23 <phenny> sbp: 02:52Z <nslater> tell sbp i found this link via 4chan, of all places! :p
07:17:25 <phenny> sbp: 02:54Z <nslater> tell sbp :p http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=William+Howard+Taft&to=Semantic+Web
07:29:20 <sbp> good video, but can't help thinking it was somewhat of a setup
07:29:31 <sbp> still good as a comedy sketch though
08:04:01 <sbp> xover: they're rennovating Shakespeare's tombstone today
08:04:11 <sbp> it's actually going to be on BBC News
08:04:23 <sbp> .u ₵
08:04:24 <phenny> U+20B5 (No name found)
08:04:24 <Monty> "you"
08:06:56 <sbp> oh balls, I want F&P II now
08:07:27 <sbp> had to give it back the other day, and haven't got it out again yet
08:13:18 <sbp> SS and JOHP are illustrative on this point though, anyway
08:16:48 <sbp> .c 28.99 USD in GBP
08:16:48 <phenny> 28.99 U.S. dollars = 14.680711 British pounds
08:18:53 <sbp> .title http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/987681.html
08:18:56 <phenny> sbp: Was William Shakespeare a Jewish woman in disguise? - Haaretz - Israel News
08:19:22 * sbp had a suspicion of where this was going...
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08:21:09 <sbp> ah, here we go
08:21:11 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/7422986.stm
08:21:13 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | England | Coventry/Warwickshire | Bard's 'cursed' tomb is revamped
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08:26:44 <Monty> lo leobard
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08:38:59 <sbp> phenny: tell xover to check out http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdu2boy/437902051/ - an exceptionally clear photo of the inscription (the original?)
08:38:59 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when xover is around.
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09:13:39 <sbp> wow, this is mind-boggling security idiocy
09:13:41 <sbp> .title http://ambrand.com/2006/09/06/is-securesuitecouk-a-phishing-scam/
09:13:44 <phenny> sbp: Is securesuite.co.uk a phishing scam? at Ambrand Dot Com
09:13:47 <sbp> .title http://ashok.videdot.com/2007/verified-by-visa-fuckwittage/
09:13:48 <phenny> sbp: ashok.videdot.com : 'Verified' by Visa
09:14:29 <sbp> thanks to this, I'm unable to renew my domains or buy any new ones
09:14:52 * sbp is calmly livid
09:16:17 * sbp kicks Crédit Mutuel for good measure
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09:16:25 <Monty> hi SinDoc
09:16:26 <cre8radix> heya
09:16:44 * sbp is unsure whether to contact his bank or his registrar or both...
09:17:17 <sbp> my registrar is much saner than my bank normally, so let's try that route first
09:18:12 <sbp> oh here we go, they have an FAQ
09:18:18 <sbp> “Contact your bank, or Visa directly (it is mainly Visa's new "Verified by Visa" program that causes the most problems), and ask them to unblock your card for international online purchase, or to specifically accept your payment to Gandi.” - https://www.gandi.net/faq/tutorial/687/payment_problems/
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09:21:51 <dhart> totally stupid question: how do I invite phenny to a channel? my IRC-foo is too old..
09:26:20 * sbp phones his bank
09:26:34 <sbp> dhart: you either ask me nicely or run your own
09:27:51 <dhart> sbp: oh. on #opencog please? :-)
09:28:07 <sbp> how many people use the channel?
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09:28:31 <sbp> yeah, not really big enough to warrant joining I think
09:28:34 <dhart> about 10, but probably growing due to GSoC just starting
09:28:47 <sbp> the source is available from http://inamidst.com/phenny/
09:29:00 <sbp> free software and open source licence
09:29:06 <dhart> why the limitation? we're wordnet freaks, etc.
09:29:11 <sbp> there's also a debian and ubuntu package
09:29:27 <dhart> yeah, I need to setup a logger too, but probably won't get to it for a few weeks yet
09:29:29 <sbp> limitation? phenny is a service that I run for me and my friends
09:29:33 <sbp> and I don't know you :-)
09:29:54 <sbp> but she's open source, free software, and easy to run...
09:29:56 <dhart> oh, okay fair enough. :-)
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09:31:27 <dhart> sbp: can you recommend a nice logger? preferably python?
09:31:32 <_bjoern> "... contact the author of the superior pages ..." - 404 error
09:32:35 <sbp> dhart: yup, http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py
09:32:42 <sbp> okay, so my bank won't unblock payments to Gandi
09:32:52 <sbp> but they have given me the number of Verified by Visa
09:32:58 <sbp> so I'm going to ring them now...
09:33:33 <sbp> a recorded call
09:34:01 <sbp> _bjoern: sounds very i ching
09:35:06 <_bjoern> I suppose the german word is "übergeordnet" and this is a very literal translation
09:35:15 <sbp> aha
09:35:27 <sbp> sounds like a good domain name
09:35:31 <_bjoern> http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=%FCbergeordnet
09:35:33 <sbp> uebergeord.net
09:35:51 <_bjoern> not a bad idea
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09:37:23 <dhart> thanks I'll try that. I haven't yet decided if I want pretty web presentation, or just dumb logs that can be google crawled
09:37:35 <sbp> Google-Anzeigen: Sprachkurs in England
09:37:58 <sbp> dhart: can always be layered on top, like I do
09:38:12 <sbp> i.e. I autogenerate HTML from the raw text logs
09:38:13 <_bjoern> you found a new way to mmf?
09:38:18 <sbp> mmf?
09:38:22 <dhart> yeah, that's an option. do you logrotate loggy?
09:38:24 <_bjoern> .gd mmf
09:38:29 <phenny> mmf: Fiberoptic cable in which the signal or light propagates in multiple modes or paths. Since these paths may have varying lengths, a transmitted ...
09:38:31 <_bjoern> .wik mmf
09:38:31 <sbp> logrotate?
09:38:32 <phenny> "MMF file, a file extension used for SMAF polyphonic ring tones" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMF
09:38:35 <_bjoern> Make Money Fast.
09:38:39 <sbp> hehe
09:40:05 <dhart> man logrotate
09:41:27 <dhart> although, it's probably best to filename datestamp daily logs for better spidering
09:45:14 <sbp> okay, these people advised me to try the bank homepage and use Verified by Visa through them
09:45:23 <sbp> then it'll obviously be secure, and happiness should result
09:45:28 <sbp> but I can't find a link on the homepage...
09:45:46 <sbp> dhart: loggy.py creates YYYY-MM-DD.txt files only
09:47:26 <_bjoern> phenny, fr "page"?
09:47:27 <phenny> _bjoern: "pages" (fr to en, translate.google.com)
09:47:44 <dhart> duh, I see that now. wasn't looking closely enough
09:48:35 <sbp> ah, here we go, I found the page about it on my bank's website
09:48:40 <dhart> can you point me to a URI of a raw logfile?
09:48:44 <sbp> it says after three prompts, it's mandatory
09:48:56 <sbp> dhart: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-28.txt
09:49:02 <sbp> so that explains that
09:49:10 <sbp> and it then links to this rather phishy looking external site
09:49:20 <sbp> so I guess that's all... fine... but... gah
09:49:23 <dhart> I was just contemplating how to make a wp 'dropbox' upload folder...
09:49:30 <dhart> (python of course)
09:50:22 <dhart> okay that's nice. clean and simple.
09:50:29 <sbp> this is an absolute security travesty. I can't believe what they're asking people to go through here
09:52:38 <dhart> er, on leopard, hence the 'folder'. someone has made a binding binding for fsnotify. the wp part is probably the easy part.
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09:54:25 * sbp grumbles a little more
09:54:33 <sbp> at least it's not my registrar's fault
09:54:45 <sbp> scary that I trust my registrar more than my bank
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09:57:52 <sbp> this is hilarious:
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09:57:55 <sbp> .title http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/2005-September/079604.html
09:57:56 <phenny> sbp: Phishing in French
09:58:11 <dhart> just reading http://swhack.com. lisp fans here? a stub for a scheme shell was added to opencog just today.
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09:59:27 <sbp> presumably chandler is a lisp fan
09:59:43 <sbp> given that he runs paste.lisp.org
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10:10:25 <_bjoern> he might also be trying to confuse us.
10:10:34 <_bjoern> being on swhack I'm unsure what's more likely.
10:20:37 <sbp> unsurity is the only likely option
10:22:41 <zachb> I try to not confuse people, that'd be sillier than a dog on a pile of horseradish!
10:23:19 <sbp> you're a dog on a pile of horseradish
10:23:33 <zachb> I'm actually sitting on mustard thank you very much!
10:26:30 * sbp tries http://opensword.org/Pixen/
10:30:48 <zachb> sbp: what was that unicode funky @ sign that you used?
10:31:18 <sbp> _bjoern used it, not me
10:31:25 <zachb> Sorry, I thought you did
10:31:31 <zachb> .u at
10:31:32 <phenny> U+0040 COMMERCIAL AT (@)
10:31:44 <sbp> .u small commercial at
10:31:44 <Monty> "you"
10:31:45 <phenny> U+FE6B SMALL COMMERCIAL AT (﹫)
10:31:48 <sbp> there you go
10:32:16 <zachb> Yay, thanks
10:38:55 <nslater> BEEP
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10:42:30 <sbp> BEEP
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10:44:41 <_bjoern> I do all the funky stuff, you should know that.
10:45:21 <sbp> or perhaps you are a new game which I call GOONHOCKEY
10:45:28 <sbp> Rules of Play
10:45:30 <sbp> 1. Goon.
10:45:34 <sbp> 2. Hockey.
10:45:41 <sbp> 3. Alchemise the two and...
10:45:45 <sbp> 4. Goonhockey!
10:45:51 <sbp> 5. Ten players per side.
10:46:01 <sbp> 6. One side is wholly female, the other male.
10:46:04 <sbp> 7. [CENSORED]
10:46:09 <sbp> 8. Cigarette.
10:46:21 <sbp> 9. (Don't smoke.)
10:46:33 <sbp> 10. YEAH MANG! THIS GAME HAS TEN RULES NOW!
10:46:46 <_bjoern> you usually do 9 after 8 yes.
10:46:54 <sbp> hehe
10:47:02 <sbp> I didn't say there were ordered rules
10:47:17 <sbp> order is 6, 5, 2, 3, 1, 9, 10, 4, 8, 7
10:48:14 <_bjoern> from end to start?
10:48:26 <sbp> entirely your choice
10:48:46 <sbp> though it actually reads quite funny when you do it in the more or less random order I just gave
10:49:06 <sbp> and of course I advise whichever order is the most funny
10:49:41 <_bjoern> I'll wait for the wii version of this game.
10:49:46 <sbp> kk
10:49:53 <_bjoern> Then I'll wait for a decent wii emu.
10:49:58 <_bjoern> Then for a pc to run it.
10:50:02 <sbp> wiiiiiieeeeemu
10:50:10 <_bjoern> Then for spare time.
10:50:23 <sbp> might as well wait for the moon whilst you're at it
10:50:43 <_bjoern> Then for pension check (unless suicide booths have been widely deployed by then)
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10:52:34 <Monty> welcome, mahound
10:53:28 <aspect> sbp: is that goon as in http://www.tinyvices.com/goonbag2.jpg ?
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11:09:23 <sbp> aspect: no
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11:37:14 <Morbus> good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pEquofR2r0
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11:47:32 <sbp> .title
11:47:33 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Video Games and Sex
11:51:11 <sbp> calling _bjoern. calling _bjoern. come in _bjoern
11:51:19 <sbp> (or cre8radix, need a German speaker)
11:51:27 <sbp> what's the exact literal translation of irrlicht?
11:51:32 <sbp> presumably licht is light, of course
11:51:40 <sbp> but what does the irr- prefix best translate to?
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11:55:42 <_bjoern> Well, somewhat literally Irrlichter lead you into the Irre
11:55:43 <_bjoern> http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Irre
11:56:04 <sbp> ah, thanks! so it's like fatuus
11:56:06 <_bjoern> err perhaps?
11:56:15 <sbp> well it would make sense
11:56:30 <sbp> because then irr- -licht would map to fatuus and ignis
11:56:32 <sbp> pretty much
11:56:50 <sbp> also, I think I heard that Shakespeare calqued wildfire from it
11:57:07 <sbp> which for some reason I'd forgotten
11:57:24 <sbp> anyway, thanks
11:57:39 <sbp> I was trying to come up with a theory/folklore free term for earth lights/spooklights
11:57:46 <_bjoern> leo also suggests pseudo- for irr-
11:57:56 <sbp> ah, nice. false lights... hmm
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11:58:10 <sbp> because they lead you false...
11:58:46 <aspect> .ety eerie
11:58:47 <phenny> "c.1300, north England and Scot. variant of O.E. earg 'cowardly, fearful,' from P.Gmc. *argaz (cf. O.N. argr 'unmanly, voluptuous,' Swed. arg 'malicious,' Ger. arg 'bad, wicked')." - http://etymonline.com/?term=eerie
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11:59:10 <_bjoern> the german .wik Irrlicht is good
11:59:25 <_bjoern> it uses plenty irrwords.
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11:59:49 * sbp translates it
12:00:23 <sbp> -> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FIrrlicht&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=de&tl=en
12:00:59 <sbp> Faulgas? marsh gas?
12:01:16 <sbp> -> http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Faul -> hmm
12:01:18 <sbp> lots of choices
12:01:26 <sbp> foul seems the obvious calque...
12:01:32 <sbp> foulgas
12:01:40 <sbp> but is that idiomatic for marsh gas?
12:02:06 <sbp> .gc umherirrenden
12:02:07 <phenny> umherirrenden: 17,700
12:02:23 <sbp> ônoez̈: http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=umherirrenden
12:02:31 <nslater> sbp: i was less than impressed by your lack of response to my link about the links between wikipedia articles :(
12:02:38 <sbp> ah, umherirrend = erratic
12:02:46 <_bjoern> use umherirren
12:02:54 <sbp> nslater: oh yeah, sorry. I thought it was absolute gear!
12:03:01 <nslater> "absolute gear"?
12:03:11 <sbp> ah, and Umherirren is the noun? thanks
12:03:15 <_bjoern> there is no en .wik for de .wik Sumpfgas
12:03:16 <sbp> nslater: yeah mang!
12:03:30 <nslater> sbp: pls translate into proper english :p
12:03:36 <sbp> so what is sumpfgas? wait, I'll translate the page
12:03:37 <sbp> nslater: groovy
12:03:40 <nslater> aah
12:03:43 <nslater> coooool
12:03:50 <_bjoern> It's a Substantiviertes Verb
12:03:55 <sbp> oh, Biogas
12:03:59 <_bjoern> (a verb used as noun)
12:04:05 <sbp> [[[
12:04:07 <sbp> In nature creates biogas especially in swamps and other waters in oxygen conclusion, since the anaerobic Methanbildner, the so-called "Urbakterien" (archaea), oxygen is a deadly poison. Aufgrund dieser Entstehung wird es auch Sumpfgas genannt. Because of this development is also called swamp gas.
12:04:08 <sbp> ]]]
12:04:34 <sbp> English has those, but I forget what we call them
12:05:01 <_bjoern> marsh/swamp gas?
12:06:04 <sbp> oh, we call them verbal nouns
12:06:10 <sbp> yeah, marsh gas looks right
12:06:23 <sbp> Das Trinken des Wassers ist uns wesentlich "To drink water is essential for us"
12:06:33 <sbp> is Trinken there a Substantiviertes Verb?
12:07:29 <_bjoern> yes
12:07:50 <sbp> cool, so de:Substantiviertes Verb = en:verbal noun
12:08:59 <_bjoern> .wik Nominalization
12:08:59 <phenny> "In linguistics, nominalization refers to the use of a verb or an adjective as a noun, with or without morphological transformation, so that the word can now act as the head of a noun phrase." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominalization
12:09:12 <sbp> hmm. so what the heck are Spauklecht and Spöklicht?
12:09:31 <_bjoern> phenny, de "spuken"?
12:09:32 <sbp> oh, Spuk
12:09:32 <phenny> _bjoern: "spuken" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:09:42 <sbp> = phantom or spook
12:09:44 <sbp> well that's funny
12:10:03 <sbp> so German has the term spooklight
12:10:10 <sbp> I wonder if that's where the Americans got it from
12:10:12 <_bjoern> there is http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spuk but no non-en version...
12:12:01 * sbp -> http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.meteoros.de/irrlicht/irrlicht.htm - fun photograph
12:12:55 <sbp> [[[
12:12:55 <sbp> Also, they call on heranfliegen and the people for a small fee glow. In einer Bauernregel heißt es: "Wenn im Moor viel Irrlichter stehn, bleibt das Wetter lange schön." In a peasant rule states: "If the mud much Irrlichter stand, long the weather remains good."
12:12:56 <sbp> ]]]
12:13:28 * sbp -> http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=on&chinese=both&pinyin=diacritic&search=heranflieg&relink=on -> fail
12:13:52 <_bjoern> flying towards (you)
12:13:58 <_bjoern> phenny, de "heranfliegen"?
12:13:59 <phenny> _bjoern: "heranfliegen" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:14:03 <_bjoern> phenny, de "heran fliegen"?
12:14:03 <phenny> _bjoern: "fly up" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:14:15 <_bjoern> phenny, de "heran"?
12:14:16 <phenny> _bjoern: "up" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:14:20 <sbp> woah, this guy reports a sighting
12:14:24 <sbp> oh, thx
12:14:32 <sbp> they call on fly up?
12:15:27 <sbp> hmm, beobachtung = observation
12:15:32 <_bjoern> well what's the german text?
12:15:43 <sbp> so Irrlichtbeobachtungen = ignis fatuus observations...
12:15:47 <sbp> checking
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12:16:21 <sbp> _bjoern: “Auch sollen sie auf Anruf heranfliegen und dem Menschen für ein geringes Entgelt leuchten.”
12:17:43 <_bjoern> They are said to fly by if you call them and glow (for humans/people, presumably whoever called them) for a small fee.
12:18:19 <sbp> ohos, thxings
12:18:53 <sbp> .gc "Naturkundlichen Chronik Nordwestdeutschlands"
12:18:53 <phenny> "Naturkundlichen Chronik Nordwestdeutschlands": 13
12:19:08 <sbp> sounds like a freaking awesome book
12:19:25 <sbp> oh, "Naturkundliche Chronik Nordwestdeutschlands" is the proper title
12:19:27 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Naturkundlich"?
12:19:28 <phenny> _bjoern: "Naturkundlich" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:19:33 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Naturkunde"?
12:19:33 <phenny> _bjoern: "Natural History" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:20:14 <_bjoern> like, north west german natural history chronical
12:20:37 <sbp> http://amazon.de/dp/B0000BJ0FO
12:20:42 <sbp> 25 earth euros
12:20:52 <sbp> not really worth it for a book that I won't be able to read
12:21:19 <sbp> _bjoern, u must teach me German plz
12:21:42 <sbp> let's do it alphabetically
12:21:44 <_bjoern> for a used book that you won't ...
12:21:48 <sbp> phenny: en de "aardvark"?
12:21:48 <phenny> sbp: "Aardvark" (en to de, translate.google.com)
12:21:51 <_bjoern> emph used
12:22:01 <sbp> okay, that's quite simple. Aardvark I think I can handle
12:22:08 <sbp> what's the next word? abacus?
12:22:14 <sbp> phenny: en de "abacus"?
12:22:14 <phenny> sbp: "Abacus" (en to de, translate.google.com)
12:22:24 <sbp> man. German is easy! I hope they're all like this
12:22:25 <_bjoern> Erdferkel
12:22:32 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Ferkel"?
12:22:34 <phenny> _bjoern: "Piglets" (de to en, translate.google.com)
12:22:37 <sbp> ehwhatnow? Google says Abacus!
12:22:39 <_bjoern> earth piglet.
12:22:41 <sbp> earth piglets?
12:22:44 <sbp> bwahaha. what's this?
12:22:57 <_bjoern> http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=aardvark
12:23:04 <sbp> oh man
12:23:10 <_bjoern> u needs dict leo org web service.
12:23:10 <Monty> "you"
12:23:11 <sbp> that's so much better than Aardvark
12:23:15 <sbp> yeah, heh
12:23:36 <sbp> I wanna see an Erdferkel now
12:23:42 <sbp> ooh, wait
12:23:52 <sbp> Erdferkel... Aardvark... that's gotta be a cognate
12:23:56 <sbp> .ety aardvark
12:23:56 <phenny> "1833, from Afrikaans Du., lit. 'earth-pig' (the animal burrows), from aard 'earth' (see earth) + vark 'pig,' cognate with O.H.G. farah (cf. Ger. Ferkel 'young pig, sucking pig,' a dim. form), O.E. fearh (see farrow)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=aardvark
12:24:07 <sbp> damn, awesomenesses
12:24:42 <sbp> alright, is abacus right?
12:24:46 <_bjoern> you stole the bite and pieces that make your language from all over the worldz.
12:24:48 <sbp> if so, we can move on to... abalone?
12:24:52 <sbp> heh, yeah
12:25:06 <sbp> we totally stole shit
12:25:11 <_bjoern> Abakus
12:25:21 <sbp> really? pfft, Google translate sux then
12:25:41 <_bjoern> few words using c this way in german
12:25:50 <sbp> name one plz
12:25:53 <_bjoern> usually it's a k instead
12:26:18 <_bjoern> c would usually occur in ck, ch
12:26:23 <sbp> ah right so
12:26:32 <_bjoern> I'd have to grep a wordlist
12:26:39 <_bjoern> I don't have a de wordlist here.
12:26:57 <sbp> okay, so Erdferkel and Abakus
12:27:04 <sbp> phenny: en de "abalone"?
12:27:05 <phenny> sbp: "Abalone" (en to de, translate.google.com)
12:27:10 <sbp> you know what? I don't even know what an abalone is
12:27:18 <sbp> it's either some kind of shell or some kind of pasta, or both
12:27:26 <_bjoern> Ohrschnecke, Meerohr, Seeohr.
12:27:43 <aspect> it's the shellfish that mother-of-pearl comes from
12:27:44 <_bjoern> .ety abalone
12:27:45 <phenny> "1850, Amer.Eng., from Sp. abulon from Costanoan (a California coastal Indian language family) aluan 'red abalone.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=abalone
12:27:49 <sbp> hmm. "das Meerohr wiss.: Haliotis"
12:27:55 * sbp looks up Haliotis
12:28:02 <_bjoern> .wik Haliotis
12:28:03 <phenny> "Abalone (from Spanish Abulón) are a group of shellfish (mollusks) in the family Haliotidae and the Haliotis genus." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haliotis
12:28:10 <sbp> aha
12:28:22 <sbp> alright, so I learned a thing and a word. we're doing well!
12:28:34 <sbp> I'll try to remember Meerohr, because it looks funny
12:28:40 <sbp> it looks like Sea-ear or something
12:28:43 <_bjoern> it is
12:28:46 <sbp> sweet
12:29:20 <sbp> aardvark, abacus, abalone... abrogate!
12:29:30 <sbp> phenny: en de "abrogate"?
12:29:30 <phenny> sbp: "Aufhebung" (en to de, translate.google.com)
12:29:36 <sbp> simple enough
12:29:59 <sbp> the Erdferkel Aufhebunged the Meerohr from seeing the Abakus
12:30:07 <_bjoern> Oh I think abrogate was on the 100 english words list for students or something that we did some time ago
12:30:09 <_bjoern> .swhack abrogate
12:30:10 <phenny> _bjoern: Sorry, no results found.
12:30:17 <_bjoern> that was fast?
12:30:29 <sbp> yeah, all the scripts are borken for a while
12:30:39 <sbp> because of ... actually I need to fix this
12:30:45 * sbp goes in and fixes the ass off of it
12:31:58 <_bjoern> 2007-05-28.txt has the match
12:32:10 <_bjoern> I was soo off.
12:40:00 <sbp> .swhack abrogate
12:40:01 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results found.
12:40:07 <sbp> rats. it should be working nows
12:40:22 <sbp> /tail/ is working, at least...
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12:45:41 <Morbus> where do i know the name David Gutelius? sounds very familiar.
12:48:02 <sbp> doesn't ring a bell
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12:53:44 <sbp> pasa: ¿que pasa?
12:56:10 <sbp> .swhack abrogate
12:56:11 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results found.
12:56:32 <sbp> .swhack abrogat.
12:56:33 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results found.
12:56:37 <sbp> mrf
12:57:54 <sbp> .swhack abrogate
12:57:57 <phenny> sbp: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-02#T16-16-37
12:58:51 <_bjoern> less b0rken now
13:00:44 <sbp> yeah
13:00:52 <sbp> /tail/ is fuxd again though
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13:01:44 <sbp> ah, fixed that again too
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13:26:45 <Monty> Thank goodness, cre8radix is back!
13:28:00 <cre8radix> you bet, monty!
13:28:02 <Monty> vile tearful nose...
13:31:36 <sbp> _bjoern: lol ur right!
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13:39:38 <sbp> [[[
13:39:38 <sbp> The bishop, who was born in Pakistan of Christian parents, said Christianity had knitted together a "rabble of mutually hostile tribes" to create British identity.
13:39:43 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422981.stm
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13:45:44 <pasa> spb: yes
13:46:00 <sbp> not spb
13:46:02 <sbp> sbp
13:46:28 <pasa> yeah sbp
13:46:29 <sbp> also who are you? why are you here?
13:46:43 <sbp> explain please
13:47:06 <pasa> i am ajan! private ajan! :)
13:47:15 <sbp> welcome to Swhack private ajan
13:47:20 <sbp> what brings you to Swhack?
13:48:28 <sbp> private ajan? hello?
13:48:32 <pasa> yah
13:48:47 <sbp> why do you come to Swhack? what is your purpose?
13:49:18 <pasa> why?
13:49:25 <sbp> yeah. for what reason
13:50:11 <pasa> what for?
13:50:19 <sbp> right. what for did you join Swhack?
13:50:23 * pwaring 's head is starting to hurt
13:50:29 <sbp> vrooooooooome
13:50:58 <pasa> anxiety !
13:51:22 <sbp> you came to Swhack because of anxiety?
13:51:27 <sbp> please explain, private ajan!
13:52:21 <sbp> explain your anxiety please, private ajan
13:52:46 * Arnia anxiets sbp
13:52:55 <sbp> hellos Arnia
13:53:04 <pasa> yeah
13:53:23 <sbp> pasa, what is your anxiety?
13:53:46 <Arnia> brief hello... I'm off again
13:53:52 <sbp> c'ya Arnia
1314:49:47 <sbp> .
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14:50:06 <zelazny.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: +dahut tro CaptSolo ido +deltab pwaring radii swhacker Lumiere
14:50:11 <sbp> test
14:50:38 <sbp> hmm
14:50:46 <xover> .title http://software.macscoop.com/articles/2008/05/27/teliasonera-carry-iphone-7-countries
14:50:51 <phenny> xover: TeliaSonera to carry the iPhone in 7 countries | MacosXrumors
14:51:31 <xover> Hmm. Not the local AT&T-alike, nor the second biggest mobile operator. I wonder if there is a branding issue here somewhere.
14:52:30 <sbp> .gc 4128448 K in GB
14:52:31 <phenny> 4128448 K in GB: 83
14:52:36 <sbp> .gc 4128448 KB in GB
14:52:37 <phenny> 4128448 KB in GB: 225
14:52:41 <sbp> ...
14:52:43 <sbp> .c 4128448 K in GB
14:52:44 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no result.
14:52:48 <sbp> .c 4128448 KB in GB
14:52:49 <phenny> 4 128 448 kilobytes = 3.93719482 gigabytes
14:52:54 <sbp> I'm like "that's odd"
14:53:29 <sbp> so gimble only has a 4 GB hard drive? that sounds... very weird
14:58:08 <xover> Ah, fuck. TeliaSonera is actually the second-biggest mobile operator in .no, otherwise known as NetCom.
14:58:31 <xover> Which means if they manage to tie it to a service contract, I won't be able to use it without jailbreak+SimUnlock.
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15:28:27 <Morbus> lol
15:28:52 <sbp> --
15:28:56 <sbp> sbp@gimble:~/web/swhack.com$
15:28:58 <sbp> Broadcast message from aaronsw@[gimble]
15:29:00 <sbp> (/dev/pts/2) at 15:05 ...
15:29:02 <sbp>
15:29:04 <sbp> The system is going down for maintenance NOW!
15:29:06 <sbp> resizing the HD
15:29:08 <sbp> Connection to gimble.notabug.com closed by remote host.
15:29:10 <sbp> Connection to gimble.notabug.com closed.
15:29:12 <sbp> --
15:29:17 * xover huggs nslater…
15:29:59 <xover> Morbus: You using something else for catalogin then, or did you just give up?
15:30:08 <Morbus> gave up
15:30:22 <xover> ah
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15:30:56 <xover> I bought all my DVDs in .no, which apparently gives them new ISBNs/barcodes; so DL1 didn't recognize any of them.
15:31:22 <xover> If DL2 doesn't manage it either I may just end up saying sod it too.
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15:33:15 <xover> There's a scary lack of polish here considering how long it's been in production.
15:33:46 <nslater> it annoyes me slightly that polish can mean a group of people or something to make things shiney
15:34:15 <xover> That's the only ambiguiity that annoys you in English?!?
15:34:31 <nslater> no, but it's annoyed me enough that I have pondered it specifically
15:34:43 <nslater> I think it's because you pronounce it different depending on context
15:35:05 <nslater> at least "jack" or "fly" is pronounced the same independant of the 400+ possible uses
15:35:52 <nslater> (400 being an exageration, but it is my understanding that "jack" and "fly" have amongst the most senses of any english words)
15:37:52 <nslater> hmm, I am wrong it seems... as usual then
15:37:59 <nslater> http://puzzles.about.com/library/weekly/blmosdef.htm
15:38:08 <nslater> "SET has 464 definitions in the Oxford English Dictionary."
15:38:21 <nslater> followed by run, go, take, stand, get, turn, put, fall, strike
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15:59:52 <nsh> ur al grigy
16:10:13 <xover> .title http://lwn.net/Articles/284112/
16:10:14 <phenny> xover: A coding rules checker for GCC [LWN.net]
16:10:18 <xover> .wik Prolog
16:10:19 <phenny> "Prolog is a logic programming language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog
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16:35:08 <thelsdj> ha! http://abstrusegoose.com/16
16:36:58 * _bjoern nods at todays xkcd
16:38:44 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater also I hadn't even *seen* the more/less xkcd comic until just now!
16:38:45 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
16:39:19 * sbp also nods at today's xkcd
16:41:53 <nsh> get out more/less is older than xkcd's supernova-remenant internal constituents
16:42:15 <sbp> hehe
16:43:59 <sbp> alright
16:44:12 <sbp> what sick fucker put F&P I in archive.org but not F&P II?
16:44:42 <thelsdj> .t CDT
16:44:43 <phenny> Wed, 28 May 2008 11:44:42 CDT
16:44:44 <thelsdj> .t EST
16:44:45 <phenny> Wed, 28 May 2008 11:44:44 EST
16:45:04 <nsh> F&P is the whawt?
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16:45:40 <bancus> The fuck.
16:46:01 <bancus> I'm replying to a message on myspace, and the quoted original message shows the following: <br style="display:none"/>
16:46:07 <bancus> Exactly what is the point of that?
16:46:20 <thelsdj> lol
16:46:27 <nsh> the purpose of myspace is to destroy the internet
16:46:43 <nslater> sbp: woah, that took you about 24 hours to reply
16:46:44 <phenny> nslater: 16:38Z <sbp> tell nslater also I hadn't even *seen* the more/less xkcd comic until just now!
16:47:47 <nslater> phenny: tell sbp BEEP
16:47:48 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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16:48:35 <thelsdj> trying to signup for an account on bioware forums to defend someone who is being told that CDT and EST aren't the same time
16:48:58 <nsh> .gd CDT
16:48:59 <phenny> CDT: A CDT is a hardware terminal that is available to commanders at various levels in their combat vehicle to facilitate C 2 at the tactical level.
16:49:09 <nsh> .gd EST
16:49:10 <phenny> EST: Eastern Time: standard time in the 5th time zone west of Greenwich, reckoned at the 75th meridian; used in the eastern United States
16:49:17 <sbp> nslater: how could I reply until I saw the comic in question?
16:49:18 <phenny> sbp: 16:47Z <nslater> tell sbp BEEP
16:49:27 <sbp> also BEEP
16:49:40 <nslater> you could have been all like "what comic lol?"
16:49:52 <sbp> well I just presumed it was one I'd seen and forgotten
16:50:20 <nslater> more like you let my message fall into the sbpbrainbitbucket because you h8 me etc :(
16:50:22 <sbp> which, given I can only remember like three xkcd comics, wasn't too much a stretch of an assumption... :-)
16:50:31 <sbp> heh, yeah. you ratted me out there
16:50:50 * sbp contracts nsh to crush your babies in phenol
16:50:56 <nslater> oh noes
16:50:59 <nslater> wait
16:51:04 <nslater> i have no babies, phew
16:51:08 <nsh> is already arranged.
16:51:11 <sbp> hehe
16:51:39 <nsh> exchange payment charge splain F&P whatis
16:52:04 <sbp> Facts and Problems, by E. K. Chambers, a list of the... facts and problems regarding Shakespeare's life and times
16:52:12 <nsh> oh cool
16:52:19 <nsh> i bet he got all sorts of problems
16:52:21 <sbp> one of the standard references
16:52:27 <nsh> often humourous and involving adventures
16:52:34 <sbp> well, there are more problems than facts, that's for sure
16:52:38 <nsh> which were strangely resolvable within the space of an episode
16:52:42 <sbp> chuckle
16:53:23 * nsh the watch movepic entertaintrain
16:53:25 <sbp> <chatter> Our love could be resolvable in the course of a single episode, with humourous consequences.
16:54:20 <nsh> hehe
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17:13:01 <Monty> hi jeffarch, how ya doing?
17:15:46 <thelsdj> new zp
17:15:56 <thelsdj> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/67-The-World-Ends-With-You
17:17:50 <sbp> ooh
17:18:03 <sbp> a jurpuguh!
17:19:19 <bancus> Apparently the next version of Palm OS will be called Palm OS 2.0
17:19:32 <bancus> Despite the fact that, you know, they already had a Palm OS 2.0
17:19:33 <bancus> And 3.0
17:19:35 <bancus> and 4.0
17:19:37 <bancus> And 5.0
17:19:58 <bancus> Well done, guys. That won't create any developer confusion at all.
17:21:13 <thelsdj> i think the line of reasoning is "if <version number> is older than <10 years or something> time to reuse it" i wouldn't be suprised if we end up with Microsoft Windows Vista 2.0 or something
17:22:21 <sbp> excellent
17:22:26 <sbp> marshmallow fluff
17:23:07 <sbp> bancus: I think it depends on the pause you say it with
17:23:18 <sbp> so like Palm OS [slight pause] 2.0 is the old one
17:23:26 <sbp> and Palm OS [small pause] 2.0 is the new one
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17:30:51 <_bjoern> They are all trailing competitors actually and obviously.
17:32:34 <sbp> I meant the leading of the trailing competitors
17:33:09 <nslater> .title http://tigress.com/mryia/howto/how-to.htm
17:33:12 <phenny> nslater: Giant Kangaroo Plushie gets an SPH
17:33:34 <nslater> SPH = Straegically Placed Hole
17:34:14 <sbp> what in the...
17:34:20 <nslater> this registers higher on my wtfmeter than nsh's link the other day
17:34:32 <sbp> where did you find it?
17:34:34 <nslater> see http://tigress.com/mryia/index2.htm
17:34:42 <nslater> someone sent me it in another channel
17:34:51 <nslater> .wik plushophile
17:34:52 <phenny> "The term plushophilia is a neologism consisting of plushie and -philia, and refers to any person who has an attraction towards stuffed animals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plushophile
17:35:18 <xover> Wouldn't stuffing animals fall under Zoo-… nevermind.
17:35:25 <thelsdj> .wik Ursa Major Awards
17:35:27 <phenny> "The Ursa Major Awards are an annual award for outstanding achievement in anthropomorphic arts, equivalent to the science fiction fandom's Hugo Awards." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major_Awards
17:35:35 <sbp> [[[
17:35:35 <sbp> Still haven't found the spoogy, raunchy, nasty, dirty yiff pictures? Okay, you can stop searching, they aren't here. But talking of spooge: Some plushophiles like their plushies stained. I for myself prefer my plushies clean. Using a condom or something like that will help :) Bla bla bla...
17:35:36 <sbp> ]]]
17:35:38 <clsn> nslater: yeah, I'm with you re WTF.
17:35:40 <xover> .wik Ursa Major
17:35:41 <phenny> "Ursa Major (pronounced /ˌɝsəˈmeɪdʒɚ/) is a constellation visible throughout the year in most of the northern hemisphere." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major
17:35:53 <nslater> .wik spooge
17:35:55 <phenny> "Semen is an organic fluid (also known as seminal fluid) that usually contains spermatozoa." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooge
17:35:59 <nsh> .gs * finished 894 out of 899
17:36:00 <phenny> * finished 894 out of 899: No results!
17:36:06 <xover> .w seminal
17:36:07 <phenny> seminal a. 1: Pertaining to or containing or consisting of semen
17:36:07 <thelsdj> Best Anthropomorphic Dramatic Short Work or Series "Gridlock (Doctor Who episode)"
17:36:08 <phenny> seminal a. 2: Containing seeds of later development.
17:36:42 <nsh> heh
17:36:42 <xover> I never knew, and “seminal” is one of my most frequently used words (relatively speaking).
17:36:44 <nslater> and apparently a. 3: Of or containing semen
17:36:50 <nsh> i was thinking about this at work
17:36:59 <clsn> It has been noted that it's a good thing that Gatorade was first tried with and named for the Florida Gators, and not the team from Florida State... Or it might have been called Seminole Fluid.
17:37:06 <nsh> in the context of more chat up lines for sbp
17:37:17 <sbp> moar chatup lines plz
17:37:26 <nslater> nsh: hit us with a chat up line involving "semnial"
17:37:26 <xover> “You're my seminal work”?
17:37:36 <thelsdj> ozy and millie won best comic strip, thats cool
17:37:43 <nslater> "Would you like to see some of my seminal work?"
17:38:15 <xover> You forgot the “fap fap fap” sound effect.
17:38:28 <nslater> I believe it's *fapfapfap* :p
17:38:40 <xover> Easy there, cowboy.
17:38:48 <sbp> whatever happened to unf, the universal noise of fucking?
17:38:51 <nsh> <chatter> in 1948, Hamming made his seminal contribution to coding theory. In 2008, i'd like to make mine to your vagina.
17:38:56 <nslater> "unf"!?
17:38:58 <sbp> ahahaha
17:39:11 <xover> .gc "seminal contribution"
17:39:12 <phenny> "seminal contribution": 39,900
17:39:15 <nslater> what does <chatter> mean?
17:39:27 <sbp> it's the hypothetical person using the chatup line
17:39:31 <nsh> person chatting [up], clearly
17:39:36 <nslater> oh, ive seen it a few times in here
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17:39:39 <sbp> deploying it on some chattee
17:39:42 <nslater> figured it was from some other channel
17:40:06 * xover registers seminal-work.com…
17:40:32 <nslater> .wik paraphilia
17:40:33 <phenny> "A paraphilia (in Greek para παρά = besides and -philia φιλία = love)— is any of several persistent, intense sexual interests, fantasies, or urges involving nonhuman objects, pain or humiliation, children, or nonconsenting individuals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
17:40:56 <nslater> so, para is in "not normal"?
17:41:02 <nsh> .ety para-
17:41:03 <phenny> "prefix meaning 'alongside, beyond, altered, contrary,' from Gk. para- from para (prep.) 'beside, near, from, against, contrary to,' cognate with Skt. para 'beyond;' Hitt. para 'on, forth;' L. pro 'before, for, in favor of,' per- 'through;' Goth. faur 'along;' O.E. for- [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=para-
17:41:11 <sbp> altered love
17:41:17 <nslater> hmm
17:41:21 <xover> .gc prophilia
17:41:22 <phenny> prophilia: 861
17:41:23 <xover> .gc prephilia
17:41:24 <phenny> prephilia: 0
17:41:27 <nsh> dun dun duuuun, altered love
17:41:32 <nslater> .wik metaphilia
17:41:34 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "metaphilia".
17:41:38 <nslater> .gc metaphilia
17:41:38 <sbp> one nice thing about plush toys is that they don't answer back
17:41:39 <phenny> metaphilia: 443
17:41:41 <xover> .gc perphilia
17:41:42 <phenny> perphilia: 32
17:41:48 <xover> .gc periphilia
17:41:49 <phenny> periphilia: 3
17:41:55 <sbp> I've been trying to come up with more jokes along those lines, but failing quite badly
17:41:58 <xover> .gc periphiliar
17:41:59 <phenny> periphiliar: 0
17:42:02 <sbp> well, I suppose they don't spend all your cash
17:42:03 <nslater> sbp: you're making me imagine things in too much detail for me to feel comfortable, pls stop ;)
17:42:07 <sbp> never forget your birthday
17:42:25 <xover> Never remember your birthday.
17:42:26 <sbp> (well, or always forget your birthday, or never knew it, or something)
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17:42:52 <xover> .gcphilia?
17:42:57 <nslater> .u ¦
17:42:57 <phenny> U+00A6 BROKEN BAR (¦)
17:43:02 <nslater> swish
17:43:04 <xover> .y BROKEN
17:43:04 <clsn> .gc impetize
17:43:05 <phenny> impetize: 2
17:43:30 <sbp> nslater: all I'm saying is that this is less creepy than that Florida doctor whose wife died and then he preserved her body in formeldehyde and dressed her in her wedding dress and inserted a vaginal tube and had sex with her for ten years until her family discovered her still rotting corpse in his bed tied together with piano wire
17:43:47 <nslater> wat
17:43:49 <nsh> mmmmm
17:44:04 <nslater> wat
17:44:11 * nsh chuckles
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17:44:34 * nslater is still watting
17:44:34 <clsn> was it his wife? or was there another case I'm thinking of.
17:44:35 <nsh> med-school, not entirely unuseful
17:45:01 <plum> BEEP
17:45:18 <sbp> clsn: pretty sure it was, but I can't find the details
17:45:24 <sbp> as I recall, he married her a few months before she died
17:46:22 <sbp> here we go
17:46:23 <sbp> .wik Carl Tanzler
17:46:25 <phenny> "Carl Tanzler or sometimes Count Carl von Cosel (February 8, 1877 – July 23, 1952) was a German-born radiologist at the United States Marine Hospital in Key West, Florida who developed a morbid obsession for a young Cuban-American tuberculosis patient, Maria Elena [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler
17:46:51 <nsh> ok
17:46:53 <clsn> Yeah, that's the guy I was thinking of. I remember she died soon after of TB.
17:47:01 <nsh> there are 238 referenced sources in the John McCain wikipedia article
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17:47:09 <sbp> I apologise, she did not marry him
17:47:12 <nsh> guess which is the only sentence to have four source references?
17:47:15 <sbp> totally misremembered that
17:47:21 <nslater> wat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tanzer_031.jpg
17:47:42 <xover> sbp: Please to stop talking now, k thx.
17:47:55 <nsh> answer: "McCain had conflicts with higher-ups, and he was disinclined to obey every rule, which contributed to a low class rank (894/899) that he did not aim to improve.[12][13][14][15]"
17:49:07 <nsh> for extra fun, let's calculate the number of people on earth that could be a better naval officer than John McCain
17:49:08 <sbp> the more you read about it, the worse it gets
17:49:10 <sbp> so don't
17:49:13 <nsh> .c population of earth
17:49:14 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, no result.
17:49:20 <sbp> about six billion?
17:49:42 <sbp> “The world population is the total number of humans on Earth at a given time. As of May 2008, the world's population is believed to be just over 6.7 billion.”
17:49:49 <nsh> .c 6,670,588,149 * 894 / 899
17:49:50 <phenny> (6 670 588 149 * 894) / 899 = 6.6334881e9
17:50:01 <nslater> http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=Carl+Tanzler&to=Semantic+Web
17:50:05 <nslater> 4 clicks needed
17:50:54 <nsh> six billion, six hundred and thirty-three million, four hundred and eighty-eight thousand, one hundred people better qualified to than John McCain
17:52:07 <sbp> odd map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Population_density.png
17:52:13 <xover> .wik World population
17:52:15 <phenny> "The world population is the total number of humans on Earth at a given time." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
17:52:21 <xover> bah
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17:57:19 <Arnia> Just had an interesting chat with the Los Alamos guy
17:57:40 <nsh> i remember him
17:57:51 * nsh chuckles to himself
17:58:11 <nsh> what were you chatting about?
17:58:25 <Arnia> Him and the guy who developed Ripple work together, and are actually pushing in a similar direction to me with regards the Web
17:59:48 <nsh> Ripple does what?
18:00:05 <Arnia> They've been almost independently reinventing information flow and institution theory
18:00:14 <Arnia> And some bits of NAL too
18:00:34 <Arnia> Ripple is a concatenative functional programming language expressed in RDF
18:01:11 <Arnia> One of the inspirations for my particular approach to expressing RDF in terms of category theory
18:01:37 <nsh> what's a concatenative language?
18:01:43 <Arnia> I've invited him here incidentally
18:02:34 <Arnia> A concatenative language is one where function composition rather than application is the most important operation
18:02:53 <Arnia> These include things like Joy, but they're similar in style to Forth, etc.
18:03:38 <nsh> so it's art?
18:04:08 <Arnia> Everything is art
18:04:10 <nsh> i'm don't understand unemphasising application
18:04:22 <nsh> isn't that the point of programming?
18:04:30 <nsh> i guess the term has some technical meaning i'm not groking
18:04:46 <nsh> (i meant Wilde's definition of art: useless)
18:04:49 <Arnia> .wik function application
18:04:50 <phenny> "In mathematical logic and computer science, lambda calculus, also λ-calculus, is a formal system designed to investigate function definition, function application and recursion." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus
18:04:56 <Arnia> Meh
18:05:03 <Arnia> That probably includes a definition though
18:05:09 <Arnia> Say you have a function f
18:05:44 <Arnia> Application is the assertion that something equals the application of that function to some arguments
18:06:04 <Arnia> By contrast, composition is the assertion that something equals the chaining of two functions
18:06:29 <nsh> oh, i see
18:06:35 <Arnia> An applicative functional language makes application the easiest of the two to do (by having it have the simplest syntax)
18:06:52 <Arnia> A concatenative functional language makes composition the easiest
18:07:09 <Arnia> Typically, concatenative languages are stack based as well
18:07:21 <Arnia> (using a stack as the fundamental data structure)
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18:08:34 <nsh> and what does expressing the language in rdf facilitate?
18:09:24 <Arnia> Pragmatics... rather than just having 'dead triples', you can express the meaning of triples in terms of the operations one can perform upon them in the same framework
18:09:43 <Arnia> It is an alternative to the conventional approach using description logics to express meaning
18:09:57 <nsh> hmm, sounds promising
18:10:10 <aspect> ooh. rdf to stack language .. that sounds interesting
18:10:26 <Arnia> It also means that programs become linked data, and you can arbitrarily communicate pieces of information about processes in the same way you do other machine data
18:10:58 <aspect> Joy's thing about not naming variables is possibly relevant, though I don't know enough about rdf to say
18:11:37 <Arnia> And, as a final benefit to functional programmers, you can express arbitrary type systems (basically whatever type system you can glue on RDF) rather than relying on a single one like most functional languages (generally a variant of Hindley-Milner typing)
18:12:08 <Arnia> Now, these are all interesting although I'm working on something very different
18:12:16 <Arnia> aspect: you should read the Ripple paper then
18:12:22 <Arnia> .g Ripple RDF
18:12:23 <phenny> Arnia: http://ripple.fortytwo.net/
18:14:12 * nsh just managed to whistle, trill and hum at the same time
18:14:16 <aspect> thanks, I will
18:14:20 <nsh> soon, i will take over the world with crazy sounds
18:14:56 <nsh> i wonder if i can do it breathing in
18:15:14 <Arnia> Anyway, as I said I'm taking a very different approach to meaning which in a sense supersumes their one
18:15:31 <Arnia> It is interesting at any rate
18:16:05 <nsh> .dict subsume
18:16:06 <phenny> subsume - 1. include something, 2. make subject to rule
18:16:43 <nsh> i think you just broke metaphoric orientability
18:16:50 <Arnia> meh, yes so do I
18:16:57 <Arnia> I realised it after I wrote it :/
18:17:08 * Arnia should get off IRC and have a nap or something
18:17:09 <nsh> all good. i likes
18:17:16 <nsh> naps are good for brainsort
18:17:36 <nsh> and also for seeing the moon through rainstorms
18:17:48 <nsh> which was weird, because it made sense in dreamlogic
18:18:06 <nsh> all the rain was lensing the moon, explaining why it was so massive and detailed and i could see it through clouds
18:18:19 <nsh> not sure how i rationalised the fact that it was moving incredibly fast
18:21:21 * nsh wonders what non-monotonic reasoning is
18:22:06 <Arnia> Non-monotonic reasoning is a form of objectivist reasoning where the set of true statements doesn't increase monotonically over time
18:22:23 <Arnia> In other words, statements may be retracted
18:22:43 <nsh> ah, weak
18:23:25 <Arnia> Some people think that the only form of non-axiomatic behaviour needed is non-monotonic reasoning
18:23:30 <Arnia> I respectfully disagree
18:23:46 <nsh> too respectful
18:23:58 <nsh> disagree with mace and lance
18:24:05 <nsh> .gs mace and *
18:24:06 <phenny> mace and *: cardamoms (7), shield (5), cardamons (4), tlr (3), rabins (3), pagel (3), afrasiyab (3), stearns (2), nutmegs (2), nutmeg (2), nightshade (2), ghb (2)
18:24:08 <Arnia> Get further by being respectful, and the idea has its place in history
18:24:17 <Arnia> To deny that would be temporally provincial
18:24:47 <nsh> you do say some things :-)
18:25:21 <Arnia> I do indeed say some things, and do not say others ;)
18:25:35 * chandler retracts that true statement
18:25:42 * nsh go watch some more movenpicurs, make more funny noises, and contemplate chopping a lot of hair off with an inconvenient implement
18:25:56 <Arnia> chandler: true according to which semantics?
18:25:58 <nsh> , gives chandler some moar cabbage to handle
18:26:29 * chandler handles cabbage deftly
18:26:34 <chandler> Arnia: no idea
18:27:12 * Arnia encodes chandler in Doyle's Truth Maintenance System
18:27:19 * Arnia retracts chandler
18:27:26 <chandler> truth is overrated anyway
18:27:36 <Arnia> Depends on the definition
18:27:45 <Arnia> Which is where it all becomes very sticky
18:28:05 <Arnia> Truth isn't as pure as many take it to be, but it is more vital for that
18:28:31 <Arnia> Although again it depends on which definition of truth one takes
18:32:10 <sbp> so, England play the United States tonight at Wembley
18:33:08 <sbp> I will be disappointed with anything less than a complete, complete thrashing
18:33:14 <_bjoern> yes
18:33:37 <sbp> England 8-0 United States would be acceptable
18:35:48 <aspect> .u imaginary
18:35:48 <Monty> "you"
18:35:52 <phenny> aspect: Sorry, no results for 'imaginary'.
18:38:30 <nsh> .ety recumbent
18:38:31 <phenny> "1642 (implied in recumbency), from L. recumbentem (nom. recumbens), prp. of recumbere 'to recline,' from re- 'back' + -cumbere 'to lie down,' related to cubare 'be lying' (see cubicle)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=recumbent
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18:48:43 <sbp> .gc sweet-turnip
18:48:44 <phenny> sweet-turnip: 3,050
18:48:53 <sbp> .gc sweet-raddish
18:48:54 <phenny> sweet-raddish: 16
18:49:34 <deltab> Beryl Cook died today
18:50:00 <deltab> item about her on Channel 4 News
18:50:16 <sbp> .wik Beryl Cook
18:50:17 <phenny> "Beryl Cook, OBE (10 September 1926 — 28 May 2008) was an English artist best known for comical paintings of people." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_Cook
18:50:48 <sbp> awesome paintings
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18:59:09 <sbp> SPRINGWATCH
18:59:25 <_bjoern> .porn SPRINGWATCH
18:59:34 <Arnia> Springbok?
19:00:22 <_bjoern> spring (break babe) watch.
19:00:38 <clsn> Why doesn't phenny have a .porn command? It almost doesn't matter what it does, but it should do something.
19:00:53 <_bjoern> We had .img once...
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19:01:06 <sbp> instead of the porn command, we have Morbus
19:01:09 <clsn> What'd it do?
19:01:19 <_bjoern> Morbus'd do many things.
19:01:32 <clsn> Maybe you could have .img run pictures through AAlib and print out a low-res thumbnail...
19:01:37 <clsn> I meant .img...
19:02:22 <_bjoern> We need unicodez for fixed width ascii art in variable width fonts.
19:02:33 <sbp> YEAH!!
19:02:36 <sbp> UAAlib
19:02:44 <sbp> unicode porn!
19:02:47 <clsn> Oyeah, we're usually using variable width fonts. :(
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19:02:48 <sbp> .gc "unicode porn"
19:02:50 <phenny> "unicode porn": 21
19:02:52 <clsn> But maybe you can...
19:02:58 * clsn has faith in sbp.
19:03:04 <_bjoern> .gc "unicode porn" -swhack
19:03:05 <phenny> "unicode porn" -swhack: 21
19:03:11 <_bjoern> unpossible!
19:03:33 <sbp> ㋡
19:03:33 <sbp> |
19:03:33 <sbp> -W-
19:03:33 <sbp> +
19:03:37 <sbp> / \
19:03:50 <_bjoern> s/W/(.)(.)/
19:03:57 <sbp> ôrite
19:04:10 <sbp> sbp the yepslinger
19:04:11 <sbp> sbp the yepslinger!
19:04:14 <sbp> yeaaaaah! uh huh
19:04:17 <chandler> needs moar code points > 256
19:04:25 <sbp> yeaaaaaaa-eeeeeee-aaaaaaeeeeeaah! oh uh huh
19:05:13 <clsn> I have someplace a bunch of interesting and potentially naughty codepoints we found. No, we need an AAlib impl to turn IRC into a more visual experience.
19:05:14 <sbp> .u 0256
19:05:15 <Monty> "you"
19:05:15 <phenny> U+0256 LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH TAIL (ɖ)
19:05:17 <clsn> MOAR PIX PLZ
19:05:56 <sbp> .g pix
19:05:58 <phenny> sbp: http://www.pixpatisserie.com/
19:06:13 <sbp> omg, the plover!
19:06:54 <_bjoern> I wonder why we don't have some monospacing feature
19:06:55 <sbp> when they have babies hatch under them, they say "weup"
19:07:03 <sbp> and sometimes they say pleep pleep pleep
19:07:19 <clsn> Can't we use unicodez with things like FULLWIDTH or whatever?
19:07:22 <clsn> .u FULLWIDTH
19:07:24 <phenny> U+FF0C FULLWIDTH COMMA (，)
19:07:31 <sbp> ooh, good idea
19:07:32 <clsn> I think those are monospaced...
19:07:41 <clsn> 'Course it's a good idea!
19:08:29 <clsn> You could also do loserized things with different colors of spaces or something, with IRC's colors. But proper ascii art, even in high unicode, is better.
19:09:03 <deltab> my ring-tailed plover from liverpool
19:09:29 <deltab> ♫
19:09:38 <sbp> I'll be your seagull lady from ellll aaaaaay!
19:09:45 <clsn> My woman from To-kay-yo?
19:11:25 <_bjoern> are they? I never read the spec...
19:11:29 <_bjoern> we should conduct tests
19:12:11 <_bjoern> ｉｉｉｉｉ
19:12:12 <_bjoern> ＿＿＿＿＿
19:12:21 <_bjoern> ＷＷＷＷＷ
19:12:41 <_bjoern> ＃＃＃＃＃
19:12:50 <_bjoern> They are somewhat lame though, no good chars.
19:12:51 <sbp> works for me so far
19:13:34 <_bjoern> need full width box drawing
19:14:07 <_bjoern> ＋＋＋＋＋
19:14:13 <_bjoern> I have gaps between the +++++
19:14:27 <_bjoern> those should not be there obviously
19:14:58 <_bjoern> .u FFE8
19:14:58 <phenny> U+FFE8 HALFWIDTH FORMS LIGHT VERTICAL (￨)
19:15:06 <_bjoern> .u HALFWIDTH FORMS
19:15:07 <phenny> U+FFE8 HALFWIDTH FORMS LIGHT VERTICAL (￨)
19:15:12 <sbp> well just because the box is fullwidth doesn't mean the + has to extend to its extents
19:15:38 <_bjoern> yes but its not so good ascii art if it does not
19:15:39 <sbp> .gc "lovely chestnut head"
19:15:40 <phenny> "lovely chestnut head": 4
19:15:48 <sbp> agreed
19:16:40 <clsn> There are box-drawing chars in Unicode too.
19:16:45 <sbp> ugh, that was a sad story
19:17:15 <clsn> ASCII art usually doesn't have true full-width box-drawing. ASCII chars don't reach the edges of the character box most of the time.
19:17:28 <_bjoern> but they lack width gurantees don't they, and mixing them with ascii is bad
19:17:42 <_bjoern> well you could perhaps get box drawings and full width chars to work?
19:17:50 <sbp> I wonder if there are enough fullwidths to map ascii art to?
19:17:58 <_bjoern> there should be
19:18:06 <sbp> eeexcellent
19:18:13 <sbp> what sort of size should the output be?
19:18:31 <_bjoern> ！ should be ! and they should be the same from there on
19:18:45 <clsn> Sure, ascii is mainly just U&lc and we surely have enough fullwidths for that.
19:18:47 <chandler> ├┼┼┼┼┼┼┬
19:18:58 <_bjoern> .c 0xFF01 - 0x0021
19:18:58 <clsn> I dunno... 30x10 too big?
19:18:58 <sbp> .u ┼
19:18:58 <phenny> 0xFF01 - 0x0021 = 0xFEE0
19:18:59 <phenny> U+253C BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL (┼)
19:19:04 <sbp> chandler: they're not fullwidth
19:19:19 <clsn> They join up on my screen, the box-drawing ones that is.
19:19:26 <_bjoern> so just map { chr ( ord + 0xFEE0 ) } split//, $ascii
19:19:33 <clsn> But ascii art hath a charm all its own, box-drawing be damned.
19:19:37 <sbp> mine too, otherwise they'd be shit box-drawing glyphs
19:19:50 <sbp> but I wonder how their widths related to fullwidths generally
19:19:54 <sbp> I'll bet they're not always 1:1
19:20:03 <clsn> Oh, dunno. Depends hugely on the font of course.
19:20:03 <chandler> sbp: no idea, this is a fixed-width font
19:20:05 <clsn> And not always the same font.
19:20:18 <clsn> Since your system might pull different chars from different fonts.
19:20:25 <sbp> so we either rely on fullwidths or on box drawings
19:20:30 <clsn> I wouldn't mix 'em; use one or t'other.
19:20:36 <sbp> and I presume fullwidths via aalib would give us better drawings
19:20:49 <clsn> That'd be what I'd try first.
19:21:22 <sbp> .wik Whorl snail
19:21:24 <phenny> "Desmoulin's whorl snail, Vertigo moulinsiana, is a species of small snail that lives in marshes and swamps across Europe as far north as southern Sweden[2]|." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmoulin's_whorl_snail
19:22:16 <_bjoern> ╔═══╡ Ｐｏｒｎ ╞═══╗
19:22:22 <zachb> Awesome
19:23:07 <chandler> .u ╔
19:23:08 <phenny> U+2554 BOX DRAWINGS DOUBLE DOWN AND RIGHT (╔)
19:23:14 <sbp> I thought it was going to be the top of a larger drawing
19:23:43 <_bjoern> nu
19:23:48 <sbp> nu
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19:31:53 <jsled> .title http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/28/europe/cluster.php
19:31:54 <phenny> jsled: Britain drops opposition to cluster-munitions - International Herald Tribune
19:32:15 <sbp> we misheard, thought they said clusterfuck
19:32:22 <jsled> Actual article content: Britain drops opposition to cluster-munitions *ban*.
19:32:40 <jsled> Slightly different.
19:33:14 <sbp> wouldn't have been hard to add an extra three letter word to the title either
19:33:39 <sbp> man, they should really play the Osprey hunting in slow-mo
19:39:03 <sbp> tweep-tweep
19:43:46 <sbp> KLEEP KLEEP KLEEP KLEEP KLEEP
19:45:45 <sbp> in the mediæval, Britain used to have cranes apparently
19:45:54 <sbp> I wonder if we had storks too
19:46:26 <sbp> oh, and we have cranes again now. cool
19:46:47 <sbp> only a few pairs though
19:47:18 <jsled> KLEEP
19:47:28 <jsled> Monty: KLEEP
19:47:28 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
19:47:30 <sbp> hehe. you Oystercatcher
19:48:19 <sbp> a Hopoe!
19:48:27 <sbp> awesome!
19:48:32 <nsh> ALERT, great win incoming: http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/super-mario-bros-tesla-coil-319567.php
19:48:34 <sbp> I Swhacked about those just a few days ago
19:48:41 <sbp> yeah, seen that
19:49:12 * nsh the lateness
