2008-06-03 Swhack IRC Log

00:03:08 <nslater> n5h!
00:03:09 <n5h> kpreid, cool!. mmm.
00:03:38 <bjoern_> What's with the !.?
00:03:46 <nslater> yeah, im just fixing that now
00:03:52 <nslater> silly sed mistake i made on the logs
00:03:59 <bjoern_> you say that a lot
00:04:09 <nslater> s/([^.])$/\1./
00:04:31 <nslater> hey, at least i produce code, working or not, thats better than talking about it all the time
00:05:11 <bjoern_> y?
00:05:31 <nslater> because talking the talk is easy...
00:06:24 <bjoern_> code a program that proves that.
00:06:28 <nslater> heh
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00:08:58 <Monty> bah, it's n5h again
00:08:59 <n5h> they were sublime-a beans, mmmmm.
00:09:05 <nslater> hey n5h
00:09:06 <n5h> . ]]] -ibidthread.
00:09:20 <nslater> n5h: pls be not malforming ur quotes, kthx
00:09:21 <n5h> i don't need to have unlearned all my sins rememered. lol. ooo.
00:09:43 <nslater> n5h: say something with an exclamation pls!
00:09:44 <n5h> tell jcowan to get a rough estimate of something that not everyone has.
00:09:49 <nslater> heh
00:09:53 <nslater> okay, sure
00:10:06 <nslater> phenny: tell jcowan to get a rough estimate of something that not everyone has.
00:10:07 <phenny> nslater: I'll pass that on when jcowan is around.
00:10:13 <nslater> n5h: okay, done
00:10:14 <n5h> there'd certainly be a sex offender?
00:10:26 <nslater> n5h: o_O
00:10:26 <n5h> like my typing. project name: neutrinity.
00:11:00 <nslater> .swhack a rough estimate of something that not everyone has.
00:11:03 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
00:11:04 <nslater> .swhack a rough estimate of something that not everyone has
00:11:06 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
00:11:12 <nslater> .swhack a rough estimate of something that
00:11:15 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
00:11:21 * nslater shrugs
00:11:46 <nslater> n5h: ur mangling those sentences up good :p
00:11:47 <n5h> ah.
00:18:28 <nslater> Arn1a!
00:18:31 <Arn1a> well, this being zope 3.
00:27:06 <chandler> .mangle tell jcowan to get a rough estimate of something that not everyone has.
00:27:16 <phenny> chandler: jcowan say a rough estimate of something that not everyone has.
00:27:29 <chandler> not very mangled
00:27:39 <nslater> n5h: mangletastic
00:27:40 <n5h> i play one on teevee.
00:29:06 * nsh wishes he could swap consciousness status with n5h
00:29:06 <n5h> experiments, for example, done by the word for general suck.
00:30:19 <nslater> nsh: apt-get install n5h should do the trick
00:30:19 <n5h> qoth: the article is called fox's fire in finnish. mmm. you're the polyglotest person i can smell uncertainty nting else.
00:30:49 <nsh> n5h, creation was an experiment done by the word for general suck
00:30:50 <n5h> hmm. ugh. too early.
00:32:26 <nslater> n5h: it's pretty late really :/
00:32:27 <n5h> @google fight zanzibar krakatoa.
00:33:09 <nsh> it's later in finland :-/
00:33:18 <nslater> nsh: whats this @ syntax? i find your doppleganger so funny, i was running him in another channel for about 10 minutes repeatedly, and he kept saying @something
00:33:37 <nsh> supybot
00:33:43 <nslater> oh, okay...
00:33:52 <nslater> n5h: supybot isnt here
00:33:53 <n5h> whose parents having determined he had stepped outside. suddenly.
00:34:18 <nslater> n5h: supybot has parents?
00:34:19 <n5h> do you drink?
00:34:24 <nslater> n5h: yesh
00:34:25 <n5h> twodice = prod die die. ]]] -http://blog.mikael.johanssons.org/archive/2007/02/response-to-heath-raftery/.
00:44:54 <chandler> n5h has a thing for closing quotes that aren't open
00:44:55 <n5h> let's run the corporation for election. that would be a bad decision.
00:48:32 <nslater> yeah, i might fix that when im bored
00:48:35 <nslater> n5h!
00:48:35 <n5h> copyright may subsist in a fruit. ugh.
00:50:14 <mahound> :|
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01:23:29 <zachb> "Get new fresh proxies every Sunday!"
01:23:36 <zachb> A bit of an odd choice, odd symbolism mix
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03:13:37 <procto> I like the music on Space Adventure Cobra
03:13:44 <procto> (the TV series)
03:58:06 <clsn> phenny, tell sbp http://www.s4c.co.uk/otherworld/ <-- any ideas on how I could get a copy of this? Doesn't look like it's in DVDs even in the UK.
03:58:07 <phenny> clsn: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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05:18:18 <xover> phenny: tell sbp <http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/02/diddley.obit/index.html>
05:18:19 <phenny> xover: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
05:18:21 <phenny> xover: 02 Jun 23:54Z <bjoern_> tell xover you won't believe it, but yod et al now have RT installed. We might just see svn installed next century...
05:18:54 <xover> phenny: tell bjoern_ ...!
05:18:54 <phenny> xover: I'll pass that on when bjoern_ is around.
05:27:00 <[chr0n0s]> phenny: tell phenny ooO
05:27:01 <phenny> Hey, I'm not as stupid as Monty you know!
05:27:01 <Monty> wat
05:27:08 <[chr0n0s]> hi Monty
05:27:09 <Monty> HAHAHA
05:27:13 <[chr0n0s]> heh
05:27:21 <[chr0n0s]> Monty rules
05:27:22 <Monty> 06test
05:27:26 <[chr0n0s]> err..
05:27:48 <[chr0n0s]> @help
05:27:59 <[chr0n0s]> Monty
05:28:05 <Monty> ... was it always felt more than anyone, it if someone calling me so well, not really paying attention to have been)
05:28:16 <[chr0n0s]> Monty: tell Monty hi
05:28:16 <Monty> [chr0n0s]: Okay, I'll tell Monty that next time I see them...
05:29:15 <[chr0n0s]> lol
05:29:58 <nelix> opinions on YAML?
05:31:36 <xover> .g "opinions on YAML"
05:31:38 <phenny> xover: No results found for '"opinions on YAML"'.
05:31:51 <xover> I guess not.
05:31:52 <nelix> yeah, i tried that
05:32:54 <nelix> i pretty much found YAML's opinion on it's self, and the wikipedia comparisions and pitfalls info
05:35:25 <xover> .title http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=58D2CF26A83141E848CF2FE820711B7B?contentId=6664418&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
05:35:27 <phenny> xover: MyFox Washington DC | Union Station Photo Flap
05:35:38 <xover> Ugh. Much URL fail there.
05:36:56 <nelix> as much as a dislike cookies, i hate sessions
05:39:24 <nelix> sessions in the url, that is
05:48:31 <Mike_L> hmm
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06:50:31 * Mike_L has writers block (>.<)
06:54:17 <nelix> whatcha trying to write
06:54:38 <Mike_L> this: http://tamale.net/blog/backup_storage_service_api.html
06:54:42 <Arnia> I have algebra block
06:56:15 <nelix> Arnia: i feel your pain, my algebra block never goes away
06:56:39 <nelix> it's pretty annoying, because i really like data structures
07:04:19 <Mike_L> I think I'm going to remove the consistency requirement for the backup service
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07:06:31 <Mike_L> and specifically say that applications should not rely on one of two simultaneous or quick commits of the same object to fail
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07:09:13 <cre8radix> moin:zen
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08:37:34 <bjoern_> nu
08:37:35 <phenny> bjoern_: 05:18Z <xover> tell bjoern_ ...!
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09:57:54 <[chr0n0s]> Monty: hi
09:57:57 <Monty> configures buying mezziah's doppelgangers.
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10:11:40 <nsh> n5h, what's cookin' in spoontown?
10:11:41 <n5h> there should be a serious obsticle to reverting. aye. there'd certainly be the end of the brain.
10:14:26 <nslater> .title http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1236256.ece
10:14:27 <phenny> nslater: Bird taught to fly by a MAN | The Sun |HomePage|News
10:14:53 <bjoern_> The reverse would be more interesting.
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10:17:59 <Monty> ChanServ and bjoern_ sitting in a tree...
10:19:26 <bjoern_> So I tried to change my own nickserv swhack flags and failed...
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10:22:03 <nslater> .title http://webkit.org/blog/189/announcing-squirrelfish/
10:22:04 <phenny> nslater: Surfin’ Safari - Blog Archive » Announcing SquirrelFish
10:22:13 <nslater> best technology logo I've seen for a while :)
10:22:54 <bjoern_> I wonder how the nick got in there.
10:23:13 <nslater> which nick? where?
10:23:50 <bjoern_> I what I wrote, idiot.
10:24:06 <bjoern_> cherry: punish nslater
10:24:06 <nslater> You what you wrote?
10:24:10 <cherry> which is a common model that supports only profile b. now your document will match them for example, .a\ b.
10:24:24 <nslater> unlike you to resort to such meaningless insults as to call someone an idiot
10:25:56 <bjoern_> Perhaps it's not a meaningless insult then!
10:26:20 <nslater> to call me an idiot with no justification is clearly meaningless, especially considering what you wrote was devoid of any real context
10:26:54 <bjoern_> but is it an insult?
10:32:53 <bjoern_> .title http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/03/primary.wrap.int/
10:32:54 <phenny> bjoern_: Clinton looks set to concede to Obama - CNN.com
10:51:13 <nsh> .ety devoid
10:51:15 <phenny> "c.1325, shortening of devoided, pp. of obsolete devoiden 'remove, void, vacate,' from O.Fr. devoider, from des- 'out, away' + voider 'to empty,' from voide 'empty' (see void)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=devoid
10:51:25 <bjoern_> .ety void
10:51:29 <nsh> i think it breaks the universe for something to be empty of context
10:51:29 <phenny> "c.1290, 'unoccupied, vacant,' from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. voide 'empty, vast, wide, hollow, waste,' from L. vocivus 'unoccupied, vacant,' related to vacuus 'empty' (see vacuum)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=void
10:51:39 <nsh> also, i think i may have said this once before
10:51:49 <nsh> or am going nuts again; both are cool
10:52:02 <bjoern_> envy.
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11:14:23 <bjoern_> unexpected pix http://www.google.com/search?q=c+string
11:14:43 <nslater> wat http://www.c-string.co.uk/images/cstring1.jpg
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11:43:09 <Monty> bah, it's plum again
11:43:14 <plum> you just feed it an input file of vocab and it blinds people and i think it's unhealthy.
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12:12:21 <Monty> welcome, plum
12:12:25 <plum> welcome to the dwarf fortress and epicenter of intarweb love. rofl
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12:25:24 <kpreid> nelix: I took a look at YAML recently
12:25:47 <bjoern_> why, it's just another markup language.
12:26:15 <kpreid> nelix: I like its design principles (I forget the terms, but the application/graph/tree/text layering) but I think the concrete syntax is a little bit too flexible
12:26:36 <nsh> i hate flexible concrete
12:28:01 <bjoern_> Do you hate inflexible concrete even more?
12:33:03 <kpreid> nelix: this should be qualified by that I haven't *used* YAML for anything yet.
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12:36:06 * nsh wonders what one would use YAML for
12:36:32 <nsh> oh, data breakfasting
12:36:55 <kpreid> ?
12:39:28 <nsh> serialisation, c'mon
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12:52:14 <bjoern_> phenny, "ICH HAB STÄNDIG FEUCHTE HÄNDE ABER NACH AUSSEN BLEIB ICH KÜHL"?
12:52:16 <phenny> bjoern_: "I HAB CONSTANTLY FEUCHTE BY FOREIGN HANDS, BUT I STAY COOL" (de to en, translate.google.com)
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13:01:56 <kpreid> nsh: groan
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13:09:11 * nsh smiles
13:16:07 <nslater> n5h!
13:16:08 <n5h> i love it.
13:16:12 <nslater> (tm)
13:25:01 <sbp> n5h: dang man, you always lovin' on stuff
13:25:01 <phenny> sbp: 03:58Z <clsn> tell sbp http://www.s4c.co.uk/otherworld/ <-- any ideas on how I could get a copy of this? Doesn't look like it's in DVDs even in the UK.
13:25:02 <n5h> u forgot to bait first.
13:25:03 <phenny> sbp: 05:18Z <xover> tell sbp <http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/02/diddley.obit/index.html>
13:25:12 <sbp> Bo Diddley: sigh, yeah
13:25:16 <sbp> major sadorama
13:25:25 <sbp> also hellos people
13:25:35 <sbp> hellos Mr. nslater. hellos Mr. nsh
13:25:41 <clsn> sbp: http://goosh.org/ <-- MOAR COMMAND LINE PLZ
13:25:54 <sbp> ehheh, yeah, saw that from /.
13:26:05 <clsn> I don't consistently read /.
13:27:07 <nsh> HALLLO
13:27:11 <sbp> LOES
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13:28:10 * clsn hrms, can't seem to make a font that OpenOffice will correctly do long-s substitution for. It does ccmp subs in Hebrew, but not in English?
13:30:14 <clsn> phenny, cy en "Chwedlau Cymraeg"?
13:30:16 <phenny> clsn: The cy to en translation failed, sorry!
13:30:25 <clsn> Ych
13:32:57 <sbp> mae Google sucio
13:34:02 <clsn> I don't think it can grok the wonder of cy translation.
13:34:42 <clsn> phenny en cy "Google sucks"
13:34:50 <clsn> phenny, en cy "Google sucks"?
13:34:50 <Monty> mm ok so that way to avoid that would get it the plus side, there were
13:34:52 <phenny> clsn: The en to cy translation failed, sorry!
13:35:00 <clsn> Just in case it could go the other direction.
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14:45:18 *** xover changed the topic to: "<plum> you just feed it an input file of vocab and it blinds people and i think it's unhealthy."
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14:53:15 <Arnia> Awesome etymology on countdown just now
14:53:34 <sbp> oh?
14:53:36 <sbp> also: yo!
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14:55:18 <Arnia> Edmund Spencer wrote the Fairy Queen for Elizabeth I, and everyone was impressed by it except the Lord High Treasurer who, when the Queen presented Spencer with £100 by way of thanks exclaimed "What? £100 for a song". It then came to be associated with something of low value later
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14:57:25 <sbp> hmm
14:57:42 <sbp> was it mentioned as a folk etymology, or a true one?
14:57:48 <sbp> I'd've said folk straight away
14:57:56 <Arnia> Well it was from dictionary corner
14:59:26 <sbp> ooh, Wikipedia mentions it
15:00:02 <Arnia> hah
15:00:05 <Arnia> That amuses me
15:00:15 <Arnia> This algebra doesn't :(
15:00:34 <sbp> John Mitford says that this fact is from Fuller's Worthies
15:01:26 * sbp wonders if he has a copy of that somewhere... hmm!
15:01:42 <sbp> this would place it as being a very early rumour, anyway
15:01:49 <sbp> and the first use is Shakespeare, 1601
15:01:51 <bjoern_> I love "Ask Dr. <generic name>" style replies when asking far away universities administrative questions.
15:01:58 <sbp> about ten years after The Faerie Queene
15:02:03 <bjoern_> NO SARCASM
15:02:21 <sbp> I'LL SARCAS YOU
15:02:36 <bjoern_> U HAZA SARCASMUS?
15:03:34 <bjoern_> perhaps in the future I'll be so smart and ask them to plz forward if necessary
15:03:41 <bjoern_> OH WAIT I DID INCLUDE THAT
15:03:46 <sbp> ahaha
15:03:50 <sbp> yeah, I always say that too
15:03:55 <sbp> but you know they won't
15:04:19 <chandler> then I started saying "pls read this email completely k thx"
15:04:24 <sbp> o administration, how you vex us
15:04:26 <chandler> but that doesn't work either
15:04:33 <bjoern_> It's all because I write too good subject lines
15:04:39 <bjoern_> I should use "no title" or something like that
15:04:41 <bjoern_> or "question"
15:04:43 <sbp> chandler: I'll bet your problem is you put that at the end...
15:04:44 <bjoern_> "help"
15:04:44 <chandler> "Question"
15:04:47 <sbp> hehe
15:04:55 <sbp> Information is Contained in this Email
15:05:06 *** dwins (n=david@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #swhack
15:05:09 <bjoern_> sounds too much like confidential
15:05:16 <sbp> You, Mr. Administrator, Are A Complete (Continued Inside)
15:05:17 <chandler> Save 20% On Herbal Enhancers
15:05:41 <bjoern_> steganographic spam yes
15:06:03 <sbp> There One Was a Man From Nantucket / Who Had a (Continued Inside)
15:06:11 <bjoern_> READER DISCRETION ADVISED
15:06:26 <sbp> Clinton's given up!
15:06:37 <sbp> or it's over somehow
15:06:48 <sbp> newsflashed up that there's going to be a statement
15:06:53 <bjoern_> I `.title http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/03/primary.wrap.int/`d earlier
15:06:59 <sbp> to the effect that Obama has enough delegates to secure presidency now
15:07:06 <sbp> er, run for presidency even
15:07:16 <sbp> yeah, wasn't that just yet another "it's close" thing though?
15:07:28 <sbp> yeah. "set to"
15:07:28 <chandler> "AP: Officials say Hillary Clinton will acknowledge tonight that Barack Obama has the delegates for the Democratic presidential nomination"
15:07:38 <chandler> given her campaign so far, does that actually imply giving up?
15:07:45 <sbp> chuckle
15:08:11 <chandler> maybe she'll get Kucinich to argue for seating the delegates from Mars
15:08:17 *** sbenthall (n=seb@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #swhack
15:08:22 <jsled> .title http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/02/mexico.bikers.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
15:08:23 <phenny> jsled: Car crashes into bike race; one dead - CNN.com
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15:08:46 <sbp> Ziggy Clinton and the Delegates from Mars
15:08:48 <jsled> Crazy picture there; it's surprising only one is dead.
15:09:10 <nslater> wow
15:09:12 <sbp> woah!
15:09:33 <xover> Ws it the driver of the car?
15:09:43 <chandler> no
15:09:52 <xover> Not sufficiently surprising then.
15:10:01 <chandler> [[[
15:10:02 <chandler> The 28-year-old driver was apparently drunk and fell asleep when he crashed into the race, said police investigator Jose Alfredo Rodriguez.
15:10:05 <chandler> A photograph taken by a city official showed bicyclists and equipment being hurled high into the air by the collision.
15:10:08 <chandler> Rodriguez said Juan Campos was charged with killing Alejandro Alvarez, 37, of Monterrey.
15:10:12 <chandler> ]]]
15:10:13 <bjoern_> driving near the us border?
15:10:25 <chandler> I don't think I would have the presence of mind to take that picture
15:13:33 <sbp> presumably he was taking photos of the race anyway?
15:13:43 <sbp> so perhaps it was kinda automatic. photographer's reflex
15:13:49 <sbp> something's going on, press shutter button
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15:16:06 <xover> It would be very interesting to see a black president and a female vice president; both in the campaign, and in office.
15:16:59 <sbp> if the nominations have been this mad, I wonder what the election will be like?
15:17:11 <sbp> might be even better than the Gore debacle if we're lucky
15:17:55 <xover> For one thing, I predict it will be really hard for whoever the exceedingly white and decidedly male republican candidate is to do their usual game of courting separate constituencies with different messages.; particularly the stuff designed to attack the opposition.
15:18:02 <sbp> a lawsuit that stretches on for three years or something would be great
15:18:23 <sbp> hmm, good point
15:18:38 <sbp> sbenthall: oh, hello by the way
15:18:39 <bjoern_> you and your interracial fantasies.
15:18:41 <sbp> welcome to Swhack
15:18:44 <xover> How does McCain tell women voters that America's first female vice president is bad for women's rights and gender equality?
15:18:46 <bjoern_> good point.
15:18:47 <sbp> this is a publically logged channel
15:19:59 <sbenthall> thanks, sbp. I've seen the disclaimer on the website. I'll try not to say anything that threatens my career
15:20:05 <sbp> chuckle
15:20:10 <xover> And I wonder if a black presidential candidate can actually get the 40+% of black voters into the voting booths (whichever way they vote).
15:20:12 <sbp> hey, we don't care if you destroy your career
15:20:18 <bjoern_> Yes we do
15:20:23 <sbp> do we?
15:20:24 <bjoern_> Because if not, then we have to do it.
15:20:27 <sbp> oh right
15:20:47 <bjoern_> Otherwise we'd have all those false ads law suits.
15:20:57 <sbp> ugh, not those again
15:21:08 <xover> sbenthall: You misunderstand. Your political carreer was over the second you hit return on "/join #swhack".
15:21:22 <sbp> now now, that's not fair
15:21:31 <sbp> perhaps he got redirected from one of our subsidiary channels
15:21:35 <sbp> like #teenemolove
15:21:39 <bjoern_> Maybe even before that if someone's been logging your thoughts.
15:21:53 <xover> Show me one #swhacker with a political carreer! No? QED.
15:22:22 <bjoern_> We all still remember what happened last time we showed you a #swhacker.
15:22:25 <bjoern_> Not again.
15:22:36 * dwins knows for a fact sbenthall didn't use /join #swhack anyway
15:22:44 <dwins> also, it's really hard not to type schwack
15:22:55 <Arnia> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7433079.stm
15:22:56 <phenny> Arnia: BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Tornado caught on CCTV
15:22:57 <sbp> dwins: hellos welcome to Swhack and blah blah
15:23:04 <sbp> who on earth are all you people?
15:23:05 <xover> If you're thinking of chris' “family” photos then I hardly think that's fair!
15:23:09 <sbp> what do you WANT from us?
15:23:17 <bjoern_> Is is channel takeover tuesday?
15:23:21 * dwins is just here to interrogate phenny
15:23:22 <sbp> ooh
15:23:46 <phenny> dwins: In Soviet Swhack, phenny interrogates you! Who are you?
15:23:52 <xover> Did anybody check the /b/ security briefings today?
15:23:57 <sbp> /b/?
15:23:58 <nslater> xover: hmm?
15:24:01 <nslater> sbp: 4chan
15:24:06 <bjoern_> .wik /b/
15:24:06 <sbp> you're 4chan
15:24:07 <phenny> "4chan is an English language imageboard based on the Japanese imageboard Futaba Channel." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//b/
15:24:10 <nslater> nu
15:24:13 <sbp> nu
15:24:18 <nslater> NU?
15:24:21 <sbp> nu
15:24:24 <xover> I assume we have signals intelligence on that area?
15:24:29 <nslater> i give up
15:24:34 <bjoern_> nuk nuk nukippy
15:24:39 <sbp> we do have people who look at 4chan I think, yes
15:24:41 <sbp> d8uv at least
15:24:42 <nslater> xover: what are you on about anyway?
15:24:50 <sbp> yip yi[p yipy ipyi oyyipyipy ip yip yip
15:24:54 <nslater> BEEP
15:25:00 <xover> Were we forewarned about this channel takeover?
15:25:17 <xover> Whence did this massive failure in intelligence come from?
15:25:18 <nslater> im on /b/ now and I cant see anything weird
15:25:26 <xover> Oh, phew.
15:25:27 <sbp> BEEP
15:25:29 <xover> Nevermind then.
15:25:34 <nslater> what the fuck
15:25:46 * sbenthall begins his ethnography....
15:26:00 <xover> .wik Ethnography
15:26:01 <phenny> "Ethnography (Greek ἔθνος ethnos = people and γράφειν graphein = writing) is a genre of writing that uses fieldwork to provide a descriptive study of human societies." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnography
15:26:14 <xover> NU!
15:26:19 <sbp> no ethnography, no turpentine, no selendine, no Eboracum, no catatonicity, no manifestoicalisation!
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15:26:46 <nslater> n5h!
15:26:46 <n5h> as to why they call they call the spin would affect probability of one argument of an excuse then. you probably also do producting things.
15:26:54 <sbp> actually, some selendine is okay
15:26:59 <sbp> if it's still in flower. I presume it is
15:27:17 <sbenthall> manifestoicalisation. That's a hard one to parse out
15:27:46 <sbp> yeah, quite pleased with that
15:27:55 <sbp> I'd been reading Russell on the stoics, you see
15:27:58 <sbenthall> for a second I thought it was "manifestocialisation"
15:28:03 <sbp> and the other day I saw Das Kapital in a bookshop
15:28:16 <sbp> only the title was "Capital" rather than "The Capital" or "Das Kapital"
15:28:16 <sbenthall> which made more sense to me
15:28:23 <xover> Yes, seeing Das Kapital in passing can have strange effects on your psyche.
15:28:29 <nslater> woah, topic
15:28:33 <sbp> well that's the source of manifesto, I think, anyway
15:28:41 <xover> heh heh
15:28:50 <sbp> plus -alisation being one of my favourite affixen...
15:28:57 <xover> «plum became self-aware on…»
15:29:01 <plum> namp plus real life ssh exploit, my uncle once punched a man so hard his legs became trombones.
15:29:02 <sbp> oh yeah, that reminds me, I meant to trace that quote down
15:29:10 <nslater> HAHAHA, WAT
15:29:23 <sbp> ah, got it
15:29:30 <sbenthall> never -alization?
15:29:40 <sbp> heh, no. never
15:29:47 * sbenthall infers a regional difference!
15:29:51 <xover> .gcs z s
15:29:53 <phenny> s (8,970,000,000), z (2,650,000,000)
15:29:58 *** sbp changed the topic to: "<plum> you just feed it an input file of vocab and it blinds people and i think it's unhealthy. || <plum> my uncle once punched a man so hard his legs became trombones"
15:30:07 <nslater> im glad someone else saw the humor
15:30:08 <nsh> hahahah
15:30:11 <sbp> infer some utter disdain for American culturmotronics and you're closer
15:30:40 * dwins prefers 'motronics' to 'alisation'
15:30:58 <sbenthall> fair enough.
15:31:10 <sbp> there was a card in a Frank Zappa CD I bought once which started off "Like all things American, this card believes that America is the centre of the universe, so if you're in the EU, please do [some obscure thing instead of the easy thing that Americans had to do]"
15:31:18 <sbp> on which, <3
15:31:52 <xover> IS it just me, or did #swhack start amassing particles at an increased rate when +s'ed?
15:32:04 <sbp> you know what? I've been thinking that too
15:32:18 <sbp> and trying to explain it away by the fact that perhaps I'm just noticing it more now thinking that it ought not happen
15:32:25 <xover> Maybe it's the Playing Hard To Get Effect?
15:32:26 <sbp> but maybe it is. we should do a proper survey
15:32:28 <sbp> hehe
15:32:37 <sbp> we should bat the Swhack eyelashes
15:32:47 <xover> #swhack: You Tease!
15:32:57 <sbp> or just, Oh You!
15:33:16 <xover> Don't be fooled by the coyness! #swhack is a promiscuous old whore!
15:33:46 <sbp> #swhack is only seven this year!
15:33:47 <nsh> n5h, turn offa tah magnets!
15:33:48 <n5h> pft. @dict gcide bunkum.
15:33:57 <sbp> TECHNOBUNKUM
15:33:57 <xover> Yeah, but those are Internet years!
15:34:04 <nsh> TECHBUNKUM
15:34:09 <sbp> you know, n5h is actually the funniest of all the markov bots
15:34:09 <n5h> on justice department memo that 4th ammendment doesn't apply to anti-terror activities. the nazi's actually had programs for the love of all the fun out of the spec, just not worth it.
15:34:41 <xover> Oh, I dunno. I kinda like the randomness sbp spews forth.
15:34:56 <nslater> I wonder what an 5bp would sound like
15:35:05 <xover> Dear Gods SPare Us All!
15:35:09 <nslater> I doubt anything's going to be better than n5h...
15:35:10 <n5h> and when somebody accidentally triggers the cue. you start using that complicatedness to propound laws of entropy increase. which lead to an amourous interest.
15:35:23 <xover> lol
15:35:29 * nsh chuckles at the concentrated awesomeness of his past selves
15:35:43 <nsh> wait til i tell the other nsh's
15:35:49 <sbp> hehe
15:35:53 <nsh> i mean, uh, disregard that. i and only i suck cocks
15:36:05 <sbp> counter-retory
15:36:10 <sbp> ah, fuck it. whateverz
15:36:21 * nsh propounds mass agreeings
15:36:23 <sbp> I RECOGNISE YOUR QUOTE SOURCE NSH AND FIND IT VERY FUNNY
15:36:35 <sbp> there, much easier
15:36:44 <sbp> I AM SAYING THE WORDS ON IRC
15:36:51 <nsh> I AM GLAD THAT A SHARED AWARENESS HAS BROUGHT US TOGETHER LIKE THIS
15:36:57 <sbp> LOLCULTURE
15:37:13 <xover> nslater: You need to make n5h a learning bot, expanding the vocab as nsh speaks, so we eventually can replace nsh with n5h.
15:37:14 <n5h> psychology: ur doin it wrong. what particular gruntwork.
15:37:23 <nsh> haha
15:37:32 <sbp> like fox
15:37:45 * xover demands the return of the “a”…
15:37:45 <nsh> sapient ad replacement
15:37:53 <nslater> a?
15:37:56 <xover> a!
15:38:22 * nsh has to stop eating the powder that nitril gloves leave on his hands
15:38:28 <nsh> this cannot be a good habit
15:38:35 <xover> ...
15:39:00 <sbp> it was urbandictionary, no less, that said that the a can be omitted for comic effect
15:39:06 <nslater> Arn1a!
15:39:10 <Arn1a> give/used to give/.
15:39:15 <nslater> k
15:39:30 <sbp> .wik Nitril
15:39:40 <phenny> "A nitrile is any organic compound which has a -C≡N functional group." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitril
15:40:00 <nsh> it's like rubber, but moar punk
15:40:05 <sbp> "Nitriles sometimes release the highly toxic CN− cyanide ion."
15:40:15 <sbp> perhaps you should stop eating it, yes...
15:40:39 <sbp> DAILY SWHACK CHORES
15:41:27 <sbp> COMPLETION OF DAILY SWHACK CHORES
15:41:35 <MoiraA> hello xover
15:41:42 <nsh> RELIEF AND REJOICING
15:41:52 <sbp> SWHACK CHORES SUCCESS LEVEL EIGHT
15:42:01 <nsh> ENTERTAINMENT PROVISION BY N5H
15:42:02 <n5h> you see. hey, kferdous.
15:42:05 <nelix> wow i just went and explored some sewers, about 8km worth
15:42:08 <xover> hello moiraa
15:42:12 <nelix> my feet hurt from walking sideways
15:42:13 <MoiraA> nice light ban you set there sbp :)
15:42:18 <sbp> nelix: find any cool mutants or biochemical sludge?
15:42:27 <sbp> mmm... light banz
15:42:29 <nsh> nelix, find any mutant ninja turtles?
15:42:30 <nelix> some pretty dodgy sludge
15:42:34 <sbp> welcome backs, MoiraA
15:42:37 <nelix> lots of PCB's from old computers
15:42:41 <nsh> nelix, sell on ebay
15:42:43 <nelix> a monument to pikachu
15:42:45 <MoiraA> hi, xover sorry for misspelling your name incorrectly so many times
15:42:48 <nsh> (the sludge not the pcbs)
15:42:51 <nslater> sbp: have you seen the new chanserv?
15:42:53 <sbp> a monument to pikachu? ahaha
15:42:58 <nelix> mostly took heaps of pictures
15:42:59 <sbp> nslater: yeah, haven't fiddled with it yet
15:43:02 <nslater> sbp: kk
15:43:06 <nelix> lots of urban art
15:43:09 <sbp> thanks for teh notice
15:43:10 <xover> np
15:43:21 <nelix> made good use of knee pads and gloves for the smaller sections
15:43:21 <sbp> kpreid noted that things might be able to be done with flags to prevent chores
15:43:33 *** nsh has parted #swhack ()
15:43:34 *** nsh (n=nsh@wikipedia/nsh) has joined #swhack
15:43:50 <nsh> just change up the access levels
15:43:53 <nsh> lazy sbpsaur
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15:44:01 <xover> [[[
15:44:01 <xover> In January 2008 the European Commission imposed fines totalling €34,230,000 on
15:44:01 <xover> the Bayer and Zeon groups for fixing prices for Nitrile Butadiene Rubber, in
15:44:01 <xover> violation of the EU ban on cartels and restrictive business practices (Article
15:44:01 <xover> 81 of the EC Treaty and Article 53 of the EEA Agreement).
15:44:02 <xover> ]]]
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15:44:16 <sbp> manglefango: I can't, not sufficiently levelled enough myself
15:44:20 <sbp> nsh: same message
15:44:23 <nsh> meh
15:44:35 <sbp> alright, I'll play with ChanServ now
15:45:34 <xover> nslater: Did they bother to document this one?
15:45:46 <nslater> xover: yes, /msg chanserv help
15:46:04 <nslater> and yes, you can use flags now
15:46:06 <nsh> i'm just glad they finally changed the nickserv message from the nonsensical "This nick belongs to someone else. If it is your nick, type..."
15:46:11 <nslater> heh
15:46:25 <nsh> i remember bitching about that during the last ice age
15:46:39 <nsh> and not being able to convince some freenode iiijot that it was a contradiction
15:46:40 <chandler> m. flags look useful
15:46:56 <nslater> yes, was playing with them today, very cool
15:47:42 <xover> nslater: Not quite what I had in mind…
15:47:43 <nsh> /msg chanserv del #swhack * v
15:48:13 <sbp> grumble. there is no del
15:48:16 <nsh> make that capital V
15:48:21 <sbp> as far as I can tell, I still have to change them all manually
15:48:22 <nsh> is del
15:48:26 <sbp> ôrly?
15:48:29 <sbp> is undocumented then
15:48:41 <nsh> [18:44:35] -ChanServ- Syntax: ACCESS <#channel> ADD|DEL|LIST [nick] [level]
15:48:46 <sbp> 16:48 >ChanServ< DEL #swhack * -V
15:48:46 <sbp> 16:48 -ChanServ- Invalid command. Use /msg ChanServ help for a command listing.
15:48:53 <sbp> oh, that's the old syntax
15:48:54 <nsh> ah, wildcards probably no the work
15:48:56 <nslater> access?
15:48:57 <chandler> twould be ACCESS DEL #swhack * V
15:48:58 <nslater> flags
15:49:06 <sbp> with flags, * doesn't workbabies
15:49:07 <nslater> FLAGS #swhack
15:49:09 <chandler> er, ACCESS #swhack DEL
15:49:14 <sbp> 16:47 >ChanServ< FLAGS #swhack * -V
15:49:14 <sbp> 16:47 -ChanServ- * is not registered.
15:49:41 <nsh> scriptor time
15:51:16 <xover> sbp: hostmask
15:51:34 <sbp> you're a hostmask
15:51:38 <sbp> I tried *!*@*
15:51:42 <sbp> that doesn't work either
15:52:03 <xover> Hmm.
15:53:46 <chandler> /msg ChanServ FLAGS #foo foo!*@bar.com -*
15:53:49 <chandler> from the documentation
15:53:55 <bjoern_> I had no luck doing that on me
15:53:55 <xover> There are only 8 people with +V.
15:54:46 <sbp> chandler: eh? that gets rid of all modes on only one hostmask
15:54:53 <sbp> I want to get rid of only one mode on all hostmasks
15:54:56 <sbp> anyway, I did it manually
15:55:06 <chandler> right. just wondering if what they put in the documentation doesn't actually work
15:55:11 <sbp> there were only 8 people with +V because I'd presumably almost finished the task by then
15:55:16 <sbp> now there is only one person with +V
15:55:24 <sbp> AaronSw; whose levels I cannot change
15:55:50 <xover> And ArronSw doing /msg CHanServ FLAGS #swhack sbp +F ought take care of that.
15:55:54 <sbp> yeah
15:56:01 <sbp> I have a little f
15:56:34 <xover> Hmm. And the templates sound interesting.
15:56:58 <nsh> shame AaronSw is too cool for irc now
15:57:04 <sbp> templates?
15:57:11 * bjoern_ tries to recall what other tool than the XML::XPath one he has installed that does `example example.xml 'count(//*)'`
15:57:22 <bjoern_> you can use templates with FLAGS
15:57:28 <bjoern_> I don't know.
15:57:46 <sbp> oh, custom flags
15:57:47 <sbp> cool
15:58:36 <xover> /msg ChanServ TEMPLATE #swhack bot -*+V
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15:59:17 <xover> /msg ChanServ FLAGS #swhack phenny bot
15:59:30 <sbp> nice use o' the examplenjin
16:00:22 * sbenthall has never been in a more self-referential channel
16:00:27 * bjoern_ wrote an xslt to work around it
16:00:32 <sbp> you're self-referential
16:00:32 <xover> heh heh
16:01:13 <chandler> no, your mom is... the subject of a "your mom" joke
16:01:27 <sbp> nu&c.
16:01:42 <xover> We're plotting to take over the world; by being sufficiently self-referential to collapse beneath our own Schwarzschild radius.
16:01:51 <jsled> sbenthall: today a little more so than such, but not by much.
16:02:21 <bjoern_> % tshark -o tcp.desegment_tcp_streams:TRUE -o http.desegment_headers:TRUE -o http.desegment_body:TRUE -o http.dechunk_body:FALSE -o http.decompress_body:FALSE -T pdml -r example.pcap > example.pdml
16:02:21 <bjoern_> % msxsl example.pdml example.xslt # <xsl:copy-of select="count(//field[@name='http.request.method'])"/>
16:02:21 <bjoern_> 124
16:03:31 <sbenthall> yes i am.
16:04:26 <nsh> n5h, reference sbenthall's self
16:04:27 <n5h> belay that order, number one.
16:04:33 <chandler> haha
16:04:36 <sbp> pwnt
16:04:41 * nsh chuckles pwntly
16:05:01 <bjoern_> You and your cherry picking.
16:05:06 *** bjoern_ is now known as _bjoern
16:05:06 <cherry> but i just made, should resolve the issue? if yes.
16:05:47 <sbp> if (yes) { no; } else if (no?) { what?; } (hmm) { MontyHelpMeOutHere(); }
16:05:48 <Monty> Do you wish that yes no else if no ?
16:05:54 <chandler> nsh now exists to provide moar input to n5h
16:05:55 <n5h> lol. who urlencodes slashes? that's just stupid.
16:05:58 <sbp> what does it mean to wish that, Monty?
16:06:00 <Monty> Every single day, you consume hardcore?
16:06:09 <sbp> înteresting
16:06:23 <_bjoern> We already knew that sbp.
16:06:44 <nsh> Monty, if you consume hardcore, what do you excrete?
16:06:48 <Monty> give/used to troll tdobson, so than 3000 then I wrote, idiot.
16:06:51 <sbp> n5h: my dog is hungry. what kind of animal byproduct ought I to feed it?
16:06:52 <n5h> monty -> #botpark. phenny, ask sbp if .wik could be a common problem :-.
16:06:54 <Monty> scratches delicious highest Dr Pepper!
16:07:18 <nsh> .swhack troll tdobson
16:07:22 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, no results found.
16:07:54 * nsh suspects nslater confessing in #bytesexual
16:09:08 <nsh> n5h, should i go home and eat something, or buy expensive already-prepared food on the way to the pub? (odd number of words for yes kbtch)
16:09:08 <n5h> there is probably why i'm not buying that.
16:09:19 <nsh> wait
16:09:38 <nsh> something went horribly wrong in the execution of that idea
16:10:40 <nsh> n5h, buy food? (same rules)
16:10:40 <n5h> that's not an exact sceince. *science.
16:11:22 * nsh ponders whether inline corrections count as words or not, gets hungrier
16:11:32 <nslater> n5h: whats inexact about it?
16:11:33 <n5h> *says. doesn't matter what the term president is from every view-point. right on.
16:11:44 <nslater> n5h: right on mang
16:11:45 <n5h> sbp? :-. hmm.
16:11:53 <sbp> ehwhatnow n5h?
16:11:54 <n5h> what do people do have time to reverse-engineer his evolved system.
16:11:58 <nslater> (need to fix that ":-" bug)
16:12:02 <nsh> yah
16:12:03 <sbp> :-.
16:12:10 <nsh> :-. kinda endearing though
16:12:15 <nsh> :-. n5h
16:12:16 <n5h> that ebook i got one of those.
16:12:17 <nslater> im in a tough situation...
16:12:22 <sbp> in days of yore, nsh besaid :-. manywise
16:12:36 <sbp> cock trapped in the cellar doors again?
16:12:41 <nslater> ... strip [()] to stop weird things like "yes thats what) he said to me" or let them through so that smiles work
16:12:55 <nsh> tasty ebook, about cocktrapporisation, n5h?
16:12:55 <n5h> i just noticed. though i guess small differences wouldn't really matter.
16:12:56 <sbp> you can check for :- in front of it
16:13:11 <nslater> yeah, but then do I check for everything else? how about ">:"?
16:13:28 <sbp> bugger :>
16:13:32 <sbp> >: also
16:13:41 <nsh> n5h, pls code a new instance of yourself for nslater
16:13:41 <sbp> also they're denying the earlier Clinton reports now
16:13:42 <n5h> thanks for t'offer. i don't think nslater is ready to speak at conferences . :-/.
16:13:44 <chandler> need a bayesian smiley detection system
16:13:44 <sbp> so whatevahz
16:13:52 <nslater> wat
16:14:04 <sbp> you disagree, nslater?
16:14:04 <nslater> n5h: why do you say that?
16:14:05 <n5h> you can use 'the republic' to assertain what socrates asked of himself or other people.
16:14:14 <nslater> yes, i disagree
16:14:26 <nslater> n5h: i am conference-read(tm)
16:14:27 <n5h> the make all the associated verb form. phenny.
16:14:27 <nslater> y
16:14:36 <nsh> aha
16:14:41 <sbp> that'd be a great start to a conference talk
16:14:45 <sbp> "I AM CONFERENCE READ!"
16:14:45 <nsh> n5h is right on the money every time
16:14:46 <n5h> -'re.
16:14:49 <sbp> "i mean ready"
16:15:03 * nslater fixes the smiley bug
16:15:06 <_bjoern> conference-red?
16:15:06 <nslater> HOLD ON!
16:15:07 <nsh> now that's making the associated verb form
16:15:13 <_bjoern> hold on yourself!
16:15:19 <nslater> NUUUUUUUUU
16:15:21 <nsh> I'MA HOLDING MAH ONS
16:15:28 <_bjoern> .wik ONS
16:15:29 <phenny> "ONS coding system" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONS
16:15:34 <sbp> all your verb association hold ons to yourself are belong to ONS!
16:15:46 <_bjoern> " Office for National Statistics"
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16:18:57 <nsh> ATTEN-HUT!
16:19:06 <nsh> SR ON THE BIRGE
16:19:26 <nsh> n5h, what the fuck are the clinton reports?
16:19:26 <Monty> potty mouth!
16:19:27 <n5h> find the lowest contrast setting.
16:19:32 <nsh> aha
16:19:34 <nsh> good point
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16:27:00 <nslater> n5h!
16:27:01 <n5h> voltage is proportionial to n.
16:27:18 <_bjoern> n5h, n being what?
16:27:19 <n5h> latter getting this "telepaphy by microgesture down.
16:27:35 <_bjoern> Yes, telepaphy by microgesture.
16:27:56 <chandler> nslater: who is cherry?
16:28:00 <cherry> i read that section has suboptimal conformance requirements.
16:28:44 <chandler> hixie? ha
16:28:53 <chandler> er [off]
16:28:58 * nsh chuckles
16:29:19 <nsh> n5h, cherry, PRATTLE-OFF BEGIN
16:29:21 <n5h> who's mark zuckerberg.
16:29:22 <cherry> they provide a <label> instead of picking the default menu. see above. they aren't crying out for now.
16:29:40 <sbp> did you ever learn who Mark Zuckerberg was, nsh?
16:29:43 * nsh obviously didn't pay attention to the answer to that question
16:29:47 <nsh> .wik Mark Zuckerberg
16:29:48 <phenny> "Mark Elliot Zuckerberg (born May 14, 1984) is an American entrepreneur." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg
16:30:00 * sbenthall facepalms
16:30:21 <nsh> oh. i remember now
16:30:31 <nslater> n5h: there you go chuck
16:30:32 <n5h> 1mb asdl is only provable in a undemonstrated discreteness of "beliefs, further predisposing them to various problems which we can know things.
16:30:49 <nslater> k
16:31:33 * nsh contemplates sending Mark Zuckerberg theorectical donation-requests for some of his theoretical billion dollarses
16:32:10 <nsh> In an interview with 60 Minutes, Zuckerberg has stated that he lives very modestly, not purchasing luxuries and residing in a "one bedroom apartment with a mattress on the floor" in San Francisco, California.[12]
16:32:33 <nsh> the -berg is redundant
16:32:59 <nsh> anyone who sleeps on a mattress on the floor in a one bedroom apartment with 1.5 billion theoretical dollars is just a Zucker
16:33:31 <nsh> unless the mattress is made of swedish swimsuit models and the floor is made of caramelised moonrock
16:33:34 <nsh> mmmmm
16:33:37 <sbp> ehheh
16:34:07 <nsh> n5h, fetch me some moonrock and make it caramelian-in-extremis!
16:34:08 <n5h> where does that code do? oh.
16:35:04 <chandler> n5h: where does that code do what?
16:35:05 <n5h> ouch.
16:35:38 <nsh> damn
16:35:43 <nsh> now i'm in theoretical pain
16:35:43 <Monty> For one thing, I had settled in months away!
16:35:53 <nslater> 17:35 < melbel> and off he goes again
16:35:53 <nslater> 17:35 < mahound> sbp left... coolness < 0
16:36:23 * nsh offs hard
16:36:38 <mahound> lawl
16:36:44 <nsh> n5h, you keep moon-pimping in mah absences
16:36:45 <n5h> the good ol' wind-up chalky toasdstool. i contribute nothing.
16:36:49 <nslater> HAHAHA
16:36:51 <nsh> ahah
16:37:00 <nslater> of all the lines...
16:40:35 *** xover changed the topic to: "<plum> you just feed it an input file of vocab and it blinds people and i think it's unhealthy. || <plum> my uncle once punched a man so hard his legs became trombones || <n5h> the good ol' wind-up chalky toasdstool. i contribute nothing."
16:45:33 <_bjoern> Hmm so how do I match the responses to the requests, or vice versa, in the tshark pdml? ...
16:46:22 <jsled> .g tshark pdml
16:46:23 <phenny> jsled: http://www.mail-archive.com/wireshark-bugs@wireshark.org/msg06459.html
16:47:51 <_bjoern> % tshark -o tcp.desegment_tcp_streams:TRUE -o http.desegment_headers:TRUE -o http.desegment_body:TRUE -o http.dechunk_body:FALSE -o http.decompress_body:FALSE -T pdml -r example.pcap > example.pdml
16:47:54 <_bjoern> is the source
16:48:19 <_bjoern> (filtered with `proto is http` but that does not matter)
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16:48:41 <jsled> _bjoern: maybe ask #wireshark ?
16:49:28 <_bjoern> Yeah I know, but not yet. I was just thinking out loud, and offer something to do to anyone bored...
16:49:34 <xover> TCP Sequence Number, I would presume.
16:50:04 <_bjoern> ah but tshark already does much of the decoding, defragmentation, reassembly, ... for me
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16:52:21 * _bjoern goes gather test data
17:00:12 <_bjoern> lisppaste2: url?
17:00:12 <lisppaste2> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/swhack and enter your paste.
17:03:15 <melbel> :|
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17:05:11 <Monty> bah, it's sbenthall again
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17:27:39 <_bjoern> found out that wireshark does not support HEAD ...
17:29:10 <MacTed> .wik timestamp
17:29:11 <phenny> "A timestamp is a sequence of characters, denoting the date and/or time at which a certain event occurred." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp
17:44:08 <nslater> who are all these new people? :/
17:45:05 <nslater> sbp: also, curse you and youre whits, I now find it imposible to read articles about the SM without sighing and shaking my head
17:45:37 <nslater> .wik rapture
17:45:38 <phenny> "In fundamentalist Christian eschatology, the Rapture is the name given to the future event in which it is believed that Jesus Christ will descend from Heaven, accompanied by the spirits of all the saints of God, both from the pre-incarnation period and after, who have [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
17:47:37 <sbp> HELLOS
17:47:38 <sbp> the SM?
17:47:45 <nslater> semantic web
17:47:45 <xover> S&M
17:47:47 <sbp> Southern Melle?
17:47:55 <sbp> oh right, *that* SM...
17:48:37 <sbp> eventually you'll get like me and just stop reading SM articles :-)
17:48:54 <xover> I wonder if they discarded “SM” as the abbreviation for the same reason the SVG folk scream and spit when you talk about Sexball?
17:49:23 <_bjoern> most likely they are bots.
17:49:24 <xover> .gcs SVG Sexball
17:49:25 <phenny> SVG (21,500,000), Sexball (7,740)
17:49:33 <sbp> good old Sexball
17:49:37 <nslater> i dunno, it has that pang of wtf to it, spending decades writing and rewriting specs, and discussing on mailing lists about when to meet up discuss the agenda of the next teleconference about the document about how to approach the next spec... and yet, still, now, the only examples of any of this stuff in the wilde seems to be either academic (as in, by example) or highly specific in-house stuff
17:49:41 <_bjoern> .gc vector graphics svg
17:49:42 <phenny> vector graphics svg: 1,210,000
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17:50:16 <nslater> but then again, i dont really know what im talking about, this is just an outsiders point of view :p
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17:50:38 <Monty> lo cre8radix
17:50:59 <cre8radix> lo Monty
17:51:02 <Monty> Right, time when soccer was me some some weeks?
17:51:27 <_bjoern> soccer was Monty some weeks?
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17:51:30 <Monty> I've got proof that you specialise in under-age puke?!
17:51:38 <_bjoern> Got me there Monty...
17:51:39 <Monty> mmhmmm
17:52:36 <_bjoern> .title http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001450.html
17:52:37 <phenny> _bjoern: Creating Malicous PDF Files - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab
17:53:20 <xover> % echo "You suck!" | txt2pdf
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17:54:16 <xover> Speak of the devil…
17:55:28 <_bjoern> koay.
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18:37:23 <sbenthall> "Struthious." Discuss.
18:37:49 <jsled> .ety struthious
18:37:50 <phenny> "'of the ostrich,' 1773, from L. struthio 'ostrich,' from Gk. strouthion (see ostrich)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=struthious
18:38:04 <jsled> What a fine word.
18:38:25 <dwins> it's derived from Latin AND Greek!
18:46:43 <_bjoern> xpath needs a sibling::... axis
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18:57:55 <deltab> relativity explained in 3 minutes on Channel 4 now
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18:59:16 <Monty> hi darobin_, how ya doing?
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19:00:00 <darobin> fine Monty babe
19:00:03 <Monty> weird that we forewarned about how about Sexball?
19:01:17 <sbp> deltab: Springlewongle
19:04:15 <sbp> .gc "sawn-off t-shirt"
19:04:17 <phenny> "sawn-off t-shirt": 30
19:07:59 <_bjoern> sf.net bug tracker spam levels slowly becoming intolerable
19:12:46 <darobin> wow, you're still tolerating that?
19:13:16 <_bjoern> which part? tolerating sf.net alone is difficult enough...
19:13:55 <_bjoern> I don't clean them up, I just get the mail copies of them...
19:14:09 <_bjoern> visiting sf.net usually makes ie6 hang so I stay away...
19:17:53 <sbp> humans ought to have a mating dance
19:18:03 <sbp> and I propose we use the macarena
19:18:25 <_bjoern> Care to share your drugs?
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19:19:59 <nslater> sbp: http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/ecology/natural-design-series-stones-that-literally-grow-by-themseleves/1232
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19:28:09 <sbp> lols at Simon
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19:28:59 <nslater> sbp: http://i25.tinypic.com/118my4m.jpg
19:29:51 <jsled> We have a very nice weather rock in our yard. Much better than that one.
19:29:58 <jsled> A Premium Weather Rock.
19:31:24 <_bjoern> anyone here good with xquery?
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19:46:34 <sbp> that eiderduck is awesome
19:47:37 <cre8radix> .wik eiderduck
19:47:38 <phenny> "The Beagle Boys are a group of fictional characters from the Scrooge McDuck universe loosely based on the popular image of Ma Barker and the Barker-Karpis Gang." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beagle_Boys
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20:05:31 <sbp> yay waist cinching corsets
20:06:04 <sbp> ehheh, and then her skirt is so wide she can't get through the door
20:06:11 <sbp> good old Victorian fashion
20:07:48 * Arnia boings
20:07:57 <sbp> 'ello!
20:08:20 <sbp> oysters wrapped in bacon were known as "angels on horseback"
20:08:24 <Arnia> oh?
20:08:39 <sbp> watching the Sue and Giles victorian eating for a week thingy on BBC 2
20:10:25 <sbenthall> what's the mapping there?
20:11:36 <Arnia> sbenthall: holomorphic
20:12:17 <sbenthall> really?
20:14:14 <Arnia> In very twisted worlds
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20:46:24 <_bjoern> .c 101 F in C
20:46:24 <phenny> 101 degrees Fahrenheit = 38.3333333 degrees Celsius
20:47:31 <xover> Running a bit of a fever?
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20:53:24 <deltab> “Frumenty (sometimes furmity, fromity, or fermenty) was a popular dish in Western European medieval cuisine. It was made primarily from boiled, cracked wheat. Different recipes added milk, eggs or broth. Other recipes include almonds, currants, rum, sugar, saffron and orange flower water. Frumenty was served with meat as a pottage, traditionally with venison or occasionally porpoise.”
20:59:10 <nsh> .dict broth
20:59:19 <nsh> .wik broth
20:59:27 <phenny> broth - 1. flavorful soup or sauce base, 2. clear soup
20:59:29 <phenny> "Broth is a liquid in which bones, meat, fish, cereal grains, or vegetables have been simmered and strained out." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broth
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21:03:54 <melbel> how often do people eat porpoise?
21:04:24 <deltab> I'd not heard of it before
21:05:15 <deltab> “In some countries, porpoises are hunted for food or bait meat.” — Wikipedia
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21:13:45 <Monty> it's Jabberwock!
21:13:50 <Jabberwock> It's Monty!!
21:13:54 <Monty> if (lemons == peppermints) { mumbo-jumbo jumps on secular screenshots;}
21:14:07 * Jabberwock scratches head
21:16:06 <xover> In Western Europe?
21:16:29 <Arnia> Arn1a: what do you think of the affair n5h is having with plum and Monty?
21:16:29 <Monty> fried
21:16:30 <n5h> no worries :-).
21:16:32 <plum> minister of inner affairs, don't fob this off on monty.
21:16:32 <Monty> Please go on.
21:16:33 <Arn1a> sbp: well.
21:17:17 <xover> .gc "minister of inner affairs"
21:17:19 <phenny> "minister of inner affairs": 256
21:17:27 <xover> .g "minister of inner affairs"
21:17:28 <phenny> xover: http://www.scp.nl/ess/events/r2/lu-y202.doc
21:18:16 <mahound> .wik ministry of silly walks
21:18:17 <phenny> "'The Ministry of Silly Walks' is a sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus, episode 14 titled 'Face the Press'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_silly_walks
21:18:18 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
21:18:51 <zachb> .gc "ministry of porn"
21:18:52 <phenny> "ministry of porn": 8,110
21:19:33 <mahound> .gc "ministry of fornication"
21:19:34 <phenny> "ministry of fornication": 0
21:19:55 <mahound> :\
21:23:18 <bancus> .gc "ministry of infernal affairs"
21:23:19 <phenny> "ministry of infernal affairs": 63
21:25:12 <bancus> .gc "ministry of internal combustion"
21:25:13 <phenny> "ministry of internal combustion": 0
21:26:42 <sbenthall> .
21:29:09 <deltab> .gc tacky-tigers
21:29:12 <phenny> tacky-tigers: 1,870
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21:33:53 * nsh strongly repudiates sbenthall's pacman baiting
21:36:08 <sbenthall> .gc "pacman baiting"
21:36:13 <phenny> "pacman baiting": 0
21:37:26 <dwins> .g pacmanhattan
21:37:27 <phenny> dwins: http://www.pacmanhattan.com/
21:41:34 <_bjoern> a except b == b except a <=> a == b?
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22:00:44 <deltab> _bjoern: only if they're all empty
22:01:03 <deltab> if a == b, a except b is empty
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22:02:30 * Arnia does the pacman boogie
22:02:30 <jimtronic> is this where I can find some help with Phenny?
22:02:44 * nslater watches as Arn1a looks on in shame
22:02:44 <Arnia> jimtronic: according to sum
22:02:48 <Arnia> and product
22:02:49 <Arn1a> he was also the more convoluted sections of my new site design have you? monty: no.
22:02:49 <Monty> aha
22:03:22 <deltab> jimtronic: yes, especially when sbp is around
22:03:25 <_bjoern> deltab: yes to the latter, no to the former
22:03:26 <jimtronic> i'm curious if anything exists already to create web transcripts with phenny
22:03:50 <deltab> _bjoern: how?
22:03:58 <_bjoern> if a == b, then a except b is empty and b except a is empty and empty == empty
22:04:37 <_bjoern> so this would be true if they are the same, whether or not they are empty.
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22:05:27 <Arnia> Arn1a: how do you like this dress?
22:05:31 <Arn1a> we ain't allowed to report anything as good.
22:05:56 <Arnia> aw
22:12:17 <selggig> did that mean he wanted to and couldn't?
22:12:40 <Arnia> Arn1a: which did you mean?
22:12:44 <Arn1a> to a hot bath as quickly as possible. want to finish reading the discussion that prompted this realisation. hah...
22:12:58 <deltab> _bjoern: ah, right: a = b = {x}, a − b = b − a = {}
22:13:04 <Arnia> All sorts of causal confusion there
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22:15:20 <deltab> heh, life imitates Kyle XY
22:15:38 <Arnia> wha?
22:15:57 <deltab> the programme on BBC1 now
22:16:31 <Arnia> hm
22:16:39 * Arnia can't watch BBC ONE right now
22:16:52 <Arnia> Arn1a: watch it for me in the past please
22:16:54 <deltab> “We do learn that when Alan Yentob listens to Strauss sung by Jessye Norman his brain is flooded with so much blood that the doctor doing the hi-tech scan is almost embarrassed [because he thinks the machine is broken].”
22:16:56 <Arn1a> hmm... i wonder if i can justify one.
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22:20:37 <deltab> Arn1a: a brain to listen to music with?
22:20:43 <Arn1a> so preserve the probabilistic structure of an interesting thought... what amount of evidence for the monitor. why do you think taking usians to chester-le-street next month. do you know durham's court system was only integrated with the extra problem of exchange.
22:21:21 <deltab> Arn1a: so many questions!
22:21:24 <Arn1a> hmm... do you think of it like having two observers in negotiations. each person has a syntax for repeated events? 'every fortnight we have a durability and priority. see chapter six of the hub. or when the try block starts.
22:26:55 <Arnia> cherry: talk to Arn1a about HTML5
22:27:01 <cherry> because the server making an xhtml doctype and drop is basically redundant with another one would have to see implemented in pure javascript. however, that doesn't solve the problem.
22:27:01 <Arn1a> xhtml 2 doesn't work like that. "mac os 11 will run in a temporal with an easy one to do it your way :).
22:28:22 <_bjoern> oh teh madness
22:31:43 <Arnia> Arn1a: work like what?
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22:31:46 <Arn1a> depends what part packs get written i guess it depends on whether you like monty? phenny, help.
22:31:59 <Monty> <melbel> flossing with them had asked of sister-fister. :( oh mean to..... why would interrupt their expertise at Jerusalem Jews, Whither I meant the European medieval cuisine. It is rape. in some at £32.50 / Who are ya, kiddo?
22:32:42 * _bjoern feels code like (every $i in $aId satisfies $i = $bId) and (every $i in $bId satisfies $i = $aId) is kinda odd... = is existential and there seems to be no set equivalence for sequences, and no sets of course...
22:32:45 <selggig> wow that melbel sure talks a lot of weird things
22:33:38 <mahound> .swhack "European medieval cuisine"
22:33:48 <phenny> mahound: Sorry, no results found.
22:35:09 <Arnia> .swhack European medieval cuisine
22:35:19 <phenny> Arnia: Sorry, no results found.
22:35:21 <Arnia> .swhack European swallow
22:35:31 <phenny> Arnia: Sorry, no results found.
22:35:43 <nslater> n5h!
22:35:44 <n5h> man.
22:35:49 * nslater nods
22:35:55 <Arnia> n5h: woman
22:35:57 <n5h> ah.
22:36:04 <nslater> n5h: heh
22:36:05 <n5h> ok.
22:36:09 * nslater grins
22:36:10 <Arnia> Arn1a: who?
22:36:14 <Arn1a> [and i can't send signals properly from python to c# and python :/. crschmidt: also, i'd just bore and piss off the slow grid until the pubs open. danja: i just want to assume a particular container.
22:36:34 <nslater> Arn1a: try spreading your messages over multiple lines
22:36:37 <Arn1a> overthrow. hmm... note for the phenomenon here the other idlerpgers about that. os x :/. mike_l: yeah.
22:36:39 * Arnia assumes the mantel of the fibonacci heap
22:36:53 <Arnia> Arn1a: heap me up baby
22:36:56 <Arn1a> ed.].
22:37:15 <Arnia> That's a long bracket Arn1a
22:37:18 <Arn1a> "artificial ruins . built as a proving ground? such an algebra of invariants.
22:37:26 <Arnia> "
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22:37:42 <Arnia> That's an awesome put down... 'such an algebra of invariants'
22:37:49 <nslater> n5h: be more verbose for us, we miss your pontification
22:37:50 <n5h> (yays!).
22:38:02 <nslater> n5h: not quite what i had in mind, old chap
22:38:03 <n5h> i find the ascii for "argh.
22:38:08 <nslater> "
22:41:18 <mahound> fail
22:41:28 <nslater> nu
22:41:33 <Arnia> Arn1a: dally with danny
22:41:38 <Arn1a> (and weird. perigrin: did you start up a 'dropbox' as a replacement feedstock chemical.
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22:52:01 <nsh> n5h, no pontificatory prostitution: perenegrate at your own perogative
22:52:03 <n5h> http://google.com/search?q=50%20f%20to%20c. cool.
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22:52:49 <nsh> n5h, we have machines that do that for us here in the future
22:52:50 <n5h> and printed on both the envelopes which contain the thins and wrappers of unboxed products. :-/. ah.
22:56:09 <deltab> nwalsh: welcome to bot central
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22:56:42 <deltab> n5h: now you say it
22:56:43 <Monty> Just in bacon were not yet. I bought it then?
22:56:43 <n5h> i hadn't decided yet, but now i'm told that's a great prefix. jcowan seems to lock pretty easily.
22:57:01 <nsh> exits are Droid Plaza to your left, and Borg District to your right.
22:57:08 <nsh> there is a box in the room.
22:57:45 * deltab reminisces about Crab Central
22:58:05 <deltab> ah, Atlantis
22:58:41 <selggig> what's in the box, nsh?
22:59:08 <mahound> selggig: type "open box" to find out
22:59:38 <nsh> you open the box. it a splode. you cover 76 cubic meters and are still expanding spherically.
23:00:53 <nsh> (the box blew out the false floor)
23:01:56 <mahound> "The Azores and Mr. Costa"? wtf?
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23:02:32 <bjoern_> http://www.wintrest.com/how-background-people-ruin-your-photos/
23:03:25 <bjoern_> Yes, trade artifacts with Mr. Costa.
23:03:29 <nsh> that's why i use a gamma-ray flashbulb and wear steel-woven clothes
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23:38:16 <Arnia> hm... someone on TV just described themselves as 'straight, but socially gay'
23:38:44 <Arnia> Someone else said they work at 'bi-curious clubs'... I wonder what they do at those
23:39:17 <bjoern_> Go and find out!
23:39:52 <Arnia> I have no idea where to find one
23:40:08 <Arnia> Do they approach, but don't quite kiss?
23:40:12 <bjoern_> .g uk bi-curious club
23:40:16 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.swinginglocations.com/bisexual-personals.htm
23:41:05 <bjoern_> lack google karma today
23:41:21 <Arnia> .g "bi-curious club"
23:41:22 <phenny> Arnia: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060608120657AA2Vxn6
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23:58:24 * nsh has an almost ripped-off big toe-nail
23:58:31 <nsh> but no scissors in the house
23:58:48 <nsh> very annoying, even though it doesn't hurt at present
23:58:55 <bjoern_> I so wish you wouldn't have told us
23:59:24 <nsh> shit, you're definitely not going to be happy when i send it to you in the mail then
23:59:46 <bjoern_> y?