00:00:15 <Arnia> Having to load them up
00:02:55 <nslater> Arnia: have you seen Jibbler's piespy before?
00:03:08 <Arnia> yep... we used to use it on #plone
00:03:23 <nslater> just running it my channel: http://bleah.co.uk/piespy/bytesexual/bytesexual-current.png
00:03:26 <nslater> fascinating
00:03:45 <nslater> i wanted to get one up and running here for a bit, would be interesting i think
00:03:58 <nslater> but strugling with javafail :(
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00:06:25 <_bjoern> What does that look like to you?
00:06:36 <nslater> pls elaborate
00:07:14 <_bjoern> Think `.wik inkblot`
00:07:44 <nslater> doesnt look like much other than a graph of irc nicks
00:08:26 <nslater> perhaps a man in a white cloak and pointy hat, maybe a kkk member, falling over
00:08:43 * Arnia wiks nslater's blot
00:09:17 <Arnia> Hm... why is there so much cool stuff happening this week?
00:09:26 <nslater> like what?
00:10:01 <_bjoern> That was my first thought aswell.
00:10:13 <nslater> my week has been full of uncool and fail
00:10:16 <Arnia> Concert in the cathedral, Rave For Change tonight, Art Attack on Palace Green tomorrow, the Tempest in the Fellow's Garden at Castle, the Twenty20 cricket, FuturePerfect, etc.
00:10:58 <Arnia> There are a few art exhibitions up at the Botanic Gardens too
00:12:04 <Arnia> Oh, and Revolver should be good on Saturday even if it is competing with FuturePerfect
00:12:12 <Arnia> .wik FuturePerfect
00:12:28 <Arnia> hm
00:12:49 <phenny> "The future perfect tense is used to describe an event that has not yet happened but which is expected or planned to happen before another stated occurrence." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_perfect_tense
00:13:02 <Arnia> .g FuturePerfect Durham
00:13:03 <phenny> Arnia: http://collect.myspace.cn/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&Band_Show_ID=30007596&friendid=37395790
00:13:06 <nslater> Arn1a: have you had a cool week too?
00:13:08 <Arnia> hm
00:13:10 <Arn1a> a dependently typed monster. a dependently typed monster. a dependently typed web-browser munching monster (or montyster.
00:13:16 <Monty> (29 102 / 1 148 030 = fail page is original thing or "I don't take turns in self._tree.xpath(xpath): self._tree.remove(element)
00:13:32 <Arnia> nslater: you could come to Durham and see Bill Bryson play with art
00:13:42 <nslater> bill bryson?
00:13:46 <nslater> .wik bill bryson
00:13:52 <phenny> "William McGuire 'Bill' Bryson, OBE, (born December 8, 1951 in Des Moines, Iowa) is a best-selling American author of humorous books on travel, as well as books on the English language and on scientific subjects." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_bryson
00:14:25 <nslater> ah yes, he got his honorary phd at the same award ceremony as my mother
00:14:41 <nslater> and i had a chat with him afterwards
00:14:47 <nslater> seemed like a funny guy
00:15:05 <Arnia> He is... good laugh
00:15:17 <nslater> okay, so "play with art?
00:15:29 <nslater> ... and you remind me, i really _should_ visit durham soon
00:15:30 <Arnia> You know the CITV show, art attack
00:15:39 <nslater> i have friends up there that ive been meaning to visit for ages
00:15:47 <Arnia> Well, apparently they're doing something on palace green
00:15:54 <nslater> ... see if they can sneek me in to dunelm :p
00:16:08 <nslater> h
00:16:24 <_bjoern> http://torrentfreak.com/study-reveals-reckless-anti-piracy-antics-080605/
00:17:24 <Arnia> nslater: be quick, it may have fallen down
00:17:32 <nslater> wat?!
00:17:47 <Arnia> Well, it still has structural problems as ever :p
00:17:52 <nslater> ha
00:18:30 <Arnia> Hm. Tomorrow is the Q-Ball... and I must get some new shoes and perhaps a new bow tie
00:18:35 <nslater> oh how weird it would be to spend a night in the mildert jcm
00:18:40 <Arnia> JCM?
00:18:45 <Arnia> New typo
00:18:48 <nslater> junior common room
00:18:48 <Monty> Shrillary appears to phone interview++
00:18:54 <Arnia> JCR :p
00:18:58 <nslater> ha
00:19:05 <nslater> .wik jcm
00:19:07 <phenny> "Japan Cash Machine, maker of Bill validators" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JCM
00:19:12 <Arnia> .wik jcr
00:19:14 <phenny> "Content Repository API for Java (JCR) is a specification for a Java platform API for accessing content repositories in a uniform manner.[1]| [2]| The content repositories are used in content management systems to keep the content data and also the meta-data used in CMS [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_repository_API_for_Java
00:19:18 <nslater> did i mention that im drinking some very lovely wine right now? ;)
00:19:20 <Arnia> .wik jcr university
00:19:23 <phenny> "University College, commonly known as Castle, is a college of the University of Durham in the United Kingdom." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College,_Durham
00:19:35 <Arnia> Interesting that this is the first hit
00:31:40 * _bjoern lands at http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=7fQaj31Wtko again
00:39:52 <Arnia> Just found another ring
00:40:18 <Arnia> And this one seems like it may work even nicer than the previous. Of course the devil is in the details
00:40:38 <Arnia> So, I've gone from complex numbers to split-complex numbers to biplex numbers
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00:53:09 <_bjoern> hmm http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/cenciotti/Ali%20sul%20Lago/CRW_9491_wm.jpg
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02:00:18 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's cskaterun!
02:01:47 * _bjoern made http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2008Jun/0034.html
02:03:50 <tr_> how many use pipelining or other stuff to cut down on unique sockets?
02:04:31 <tr_> i guess the # of requests isnt a problem
02:04:34 <tr_> the techosphere doesnt mind
02:04:34 <_bjoern> pipelining is difficult to tell, Opera tries to use it on some hosts and fails, then reconnects and tries again
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02:04:50 <_bjoern> much of it uses keep-alive connections of course
02:05:00 <_bjoern> so the number of requests hits less hard
02:05:55 <_bjoern> also, e.g. nytimes.com uses content-encoding:gzip virtually everywhere except images
02:06:33 <_bjoern> I am not entirely confident I know how to sum up the transfer size of everything so I've not done that yet.
02:06:33 <tr_> their page is a cess pool of js crap
02:06:38 <tr_> and why does nytimes.com/food 404?!?
02:07:00 <_bjoern> Well at least it's not 410....
02:07:15 <tr_> do people use 410?
02:07:22 <_bjoern> I do!
02:07:24 <tr_> heh
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02:08:24 <_bjoern> 410 is not among my alexa 100 results. a couple of 404s though
02:08:53 <_bjoern> .gc "Right Media Ad Server"
02:09:10 <phenny> "Right Media Ad Server": 89
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02:13:09 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp http://insecure.org/images/pro/gfi/20-mailsecurity_98percent120x90.gif?
02:13:09 <Monty> saturday isn't either.
02:13:10 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
02:13:17 <_bjoern> Yes Monty...
02:13:20 <Monty> You know, cucumber sucks chewy swimming pool.
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02:46:04 <jsled> http://www.vimeo.com/1109226?pg=embed&sec=1109226 starting at 1:10
02:46:27 <jsled> Helps a bit if you know the original song, but it's still fucking impressive if you don't.
02:46:27 <Monty> potty mouth!
02:46:42 <_bjoern> "Radiohead held an online contest to remix "Nude" from their 10th album"
02:48:06 <_bjoern> makes my ears bleed
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02:57:40 <_bjoern> Monty, let us play something!
02:57:41 <Monty> ask first"
02:57:45 <_bjoern> Monty, countdown
02:57:45 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 100, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9. Your target is 631. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
02:57:59 <_bjoern> calc 6*(100 + 6) - 4
02:58:00 <Monty> _bjoern: 632
02:58:06 <_bjoern> calc 6*(100 + 7) - 9
02:58:06 <Monty> _bjoern: 633
02:58:15 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
02:58:16 <_bjoern> hmm
02:58:16 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 0 milliseconds. I found all 43 solutions in about 62 milliseconds.
02:58:18 <Monty> ibot (100 - 9)*7 - 6
02:58:22 <_bjoern> Monty, countdown
02:58:22 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 4, 9, 7, 4, 2. Your target is 137. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
02:58:37 <_bjoern> calc 2*(75 - 4)
02:58:37 <Monty> _bjoern: 142
02:58:47 <_bjoern> calc 2*(75 - 4) - ???
02:58:49 <_bjoern> no 5
02:58:52 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
02:58:54 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 0 milliseconds. I found all 154 solutions in about 31 milliseconds.
02:58:55 <Monty> ibot 4*9*4 - 7
02:59:18 <_bjoern> Monty, penis Arn1a n5h
02:59:18 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
02:59:21 <n5h> come to my browser. "please, stop raping html.
02:59:24 <Arn1a> since shakespeare's identity for most applications. sbp: 'use zeroinstall and doap. sbp: describe what zeroinstall path you can think about?
02:59:32 *** _bjoern changed the topic to: "<n5h> come to my browser. "please, stop raping html."
03:00:16 <_bjoern> .gs please stop raping *
03:00:18 <phenny> please stop raping *: me (40), my (20), the (11), women (5), our (5), sheep (4), us (3), good (3), psychology (2), and (2)
03:00:25 <_bjoern> .gs please stop raping my *
03:00:26 <phenny> please stop raping my *: childhood (10), soul (3)
03:00:37 <_bjoern> .gs please stop raping and *
03:00:37 <phenny> please stop raping and *: murdering (3)
03:00:41 <_bjoern> .gc brandschatzen
03:00:42 <phenny> brandschatzen: 38,900
03:00:46 <_bjoern> .gc +brandschatzen
03:00:47 <phenny> +brandschatzen: 39,000
03:02:56 <_bjoern> Monty: stats
03:02:56 <Monty> I have a vocabulary of 8358 words, 6 reminders pending, 4 outstanding welcome messages, seen 1224 different nicks and I was born on Tue May 27 21:08:13 BST 2008
03:03:00 <_bjoern> Monty: help
03:03:00 <Monty> Help: I understand the following commands: help save stats time lookup thesaurus foldoc ignore remind tell random countdown seen javadoc acronym 'insult me' paper/scissors/stone calc day define/declare/set
03:03:01 <Monty> Help: To ask me for help about a certain command, try "Monty: help <command>"
03:03:10 <_bjoern> stone
03:03:10 <Monty> I chose scissors - You win :(
03:03:12 <_bjoern> rock
03:03:13 <_bjoern> scissors
03:03:14 <Monty> I chose stone - I win! :o)
03:03:18 <_bjoern> stone
03:03:19 <Monty> I chose scissors - You win :(
03:03:29 <_bjoern> stone == Monty pwnd
03:03:30 <Monty> goatbuntu
03:03:51 <_bjoern> We need a .swhackgc
03:06:54 <_bjoern> #Swhack, I shall be less-present-than-normal now.
03:06:56 <_bjoern> Have a good time while I am less-present-than-normal.
03:11:24 <MoiraA> _bjoern good luck
03:11:29 <MoiraA> wherever you're off to
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03:42:52 <jsled> .u »
03:42:53 <phenny> U+00BB RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK (»)
03:42:58 <jsled> .u »
03:42:58 <Monty> "you"
03:42:59 <phenny> U+00BB RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK (»)
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05:00:59 <MoiraA> phenny: tell $me irc is dead, dead as i a dodo
05:01:00 <phenny> MoiraA: I'll pass that on when $me is around.
05:01:10 <MoiraA> erm
05:01:11 <MoiraA> sorry
05:01:36 <MoiraA> phenny: tell $nick irc is dead dead as in a dodo
05:01:37 <phenny> MoiraA: I'll pass that on when $nick is around.
05:01:51 <MoiraA> wt?
05:12:35 <bancus> phenny is written in Python.
05:12:41 <bancus> $nick has no meaning.
05:13:00 <bancus> And if user input weren't escaped anyway, I'd be surprised.
05:15:03 <xover> .title http://280slides.com/Editor/
05:15:09 <phenny> xover: Loading...
05:15:15 <xover> That's… scary!
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06:03:00 <xover> .title http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/05/fake-bus-stop-keeps.html
06:03:02 <phenny> xover: Fake bus stop keeps Alzheimer's patients from escaping - Boing Boing
06:03:04 <xover> heh heh
06:04:27 <xover> .title http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/05/little-brothers-para.html
06:04:28 <phenny> xover: Little Brother's ParanoidLinux now under development - Boing Boing
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06:05:25 <xover> .title http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/05/clever-direct-market.html
06:05:25 <phenny> xover: Clever direct marketing leaflet for pizza delivery - Boing Boing
06:27:41 <thelsdj> xover: OLD NEWS!
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06:38:50 <xover> .weather Tromsø
06:38:54 <phenny> Clear ☼, 7℃, 1025mb, Moderate breeze 6m/s (11kt) (↑) - ENTC 8:20, 0620Z
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07:44:18 <Monty> it's mmmmmrob!
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08:28:20 <sbp> yo
08:28:21 <phenny> sbp: 02:13Z <_bjoern> tell sbp http://insecure.org/images/pro/gfi/20-mailsecurity_98percent120x90.gif?
08:28:23 <cre8radix> mornin folx
08:28:39 <sbp> d00d yo
08:29:01 <sbp> phenny: tell _bjoern hahaha
08:29:02 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
08:41:52 * Arnia booms
08:42:21 <Arnia> sbp: You might find this fun: http://www.rowan.edu/open/depts/math/osler/Biplex_Nos_Final_Corrected_Version_Aug_3.pdf
08:43:27 <sbp> downloadings. hellos Arnia
08:43:51 <Arnia> hello
08:45:09 <sbp> oh man, explanation and complex numbers
08:45:13 <sbp> good cocktail
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09:41:55 <nslater> sbp: http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2008/06/06/with_ninjas :)
09:43:40 <_bjoern> OMG NINJAS
09:43:40 <phenny> _bjoern: 08:29Z <sbp> tell _bjoern hahaha
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10:05:44 <sbp> ninjas!
10:09:01 <melbel> no ninjas
10:09:16 <sbp> why plz
10:09:25 <melbel> they are invisibles
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10:09:31 <sbp> ooh
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10:10:01 <sbp> how do you know they're there if they're invisible?
10:10:30 <melbel> how do you know they aren't?
10:10:43 <sbp> hmm. good point!
10:10:59 <sbp> .gc "invisible ninjas"
10:11:02 <phenny> "invisible ninjas": 7,060
10:11:05 <sbp> .gc "invisible ninjas watch you pee"
10:11:06 <phenny> "invisible ninjas watch you pee": 0
10:11:14 <melbel> o.O
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10:16:22 <_bjoern> Okay writing QtWebkitCapt ( -> http://iecapt.sf.net ) is very very easy.
10:16:42 <_bjoern> So far anyway.
10:16:55 <nsh> the road to hell is always easy
10:18:17 <sbp> a paved with vestal virgins
10:18:20 <sbp> er, and
10:18:39 <sbp> my letters always go the walkies
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10:31:29 <nsh> mine too
10:32:02 * nsh wonders why it's mine too and not my too
10:32:19 <sbp> if it were my too, you'd own the too
10:32:27 <melbel> not if it were your too
10:32:30 <sbp> mine == it belongs to me
10:32:42 <melbel> and my?
10:32:48 <melbel> is that not also it belongs to me?
10:32:51 <sbp> my == I possess the following thing:
10:32:59 * nsh is dubious
10:33:15 <nsh> my [letters do] too
10:33:20 <nsh> mine [own] too
10:33:36 <nsh> i think it's a relic of my -> mine before a vowel
10:33:42 <sbp> well you wouldn't know to read that omission in
10:33:46 <melbel> if you use my you need to put what is yours
10:34:10 <sbp> RIGHT ON
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10:34:54 <nsh> .wik implied subject
10:34:57 <phenny> "According to a tradition that can be tracked back to Aristotle, every sentence can be divided in two main constituents, one being the subject of the sentence and the other being its predicate." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subject_(grammar)
10:35:02 <nsh> meh
10:36:16 <nsh> oh
10:36:28 <nsh> it's just that my is the adjective form and mine is the pronoun form
10:36:37 <deltab> .wik implied subject (monarchy)
10:36:39 <phenny> "Paternalism refers usually to an attitude or a policy stemming from the hierarchic pattern of a family based on patriarchy, that is, there is a figurehead (the father, pater in Latin) that makes decisions on behalf of others (the 'children') for their own good, even if [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalism
10:36:49 <foff> .youtube Monzy performs at Stanford Univ.
10:37:08 <nsh> .g site:youtube.com Monzy perfroms Stanford
10:37:09 <phenny> nsh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
10:38:42 <nelix> subway should have sprinkles
10:38:58 <nelix> like poppy seeds, or seasame seeds
10:39:02 <nelix> or... sprinkles
10:39:15 <nsh> n5h, apply springles to subway kpls
10:39:16 <n5h> cool. arnia.
10:39:26 <sbp> .wik Mudkip
10:39:27 <phenny> "At the core of the multi-billion dollar Pokémon media franchise of various electronic games, ongoing anime, several manga series, collectible cards, and other media created by Satoshi Tajiri are 493 distinctive fictional species classified as the titular Pokémon." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudkip
10:39:45 <nelix> my friend has a mudkip tshirt
10:39:47 <sbp> is 493 a prime?
10:39:53 <nelix> it is a constant source of meme
10:40:04 <sbp> it is not
10:40:09 <sbp> 491 is a prime though
10:40:43 <nelix> i am making a phenny plugin called RSVP
10:41:08 <sbp> oh yeah?
10:41:16 <nelix> i have this lunch at my house for my buddies
10:41:24 <nelix> and managing the rsvp list is hard
10:41:34 <Arnia> nice again: http://code.google.com/p/hama/
10:45:28 <nslater> .swhack not playing any more
10:45:40 <phenny> nslater: Sorry, no results found.
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10:58:59 <_bjoern> .gs festival of *
10:59:01 <phenny> festival of *: the (16), trees (4), india (4), tara (3), stocks (3), pumpkins (3), fun (3), fruit (3), dreams (3), christmas (3), children (3), balloons (3)
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11:06:18 <Arnia> and... oooh: http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/papers/ndp/ndpslides.pdf
11:07:17 <_bjoern> OMG DUKE NUKEM FOREVER VID
11:15:48 <_bjoern> .gc "Sie sind geheimnisvoll doch sie sind super-toll"
11:15:49 <phenny> "Sie sind geheimnisvoll doch sie sind super-toll": 7
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11:18:38 <clsn> sbp: wanna betatest Marin 2.0?
11:18:43 <sbp> yup!
11:19:35 <clsn> OK...
11:20:29 <clsn> Sent.
11:21:34 <sbp> am not yette receivink
11:21:39 <clsn> There's even Devanagari support now (kinda weak, but barely readable). Plus Ogham, UCAS...
11:21:42 <clsn> Where'd I send it...
11:21:51 <sbp> sean@, presumably
11:22:29 <sbp> oh, maybe not. thanks
11:22:33 <sbp> mismemoried what email I gave you
11:22:53 <sbp> got it, thanks
11:23:44 <clsn> OK... :)
11:23:47 <sbp> OS X complains about missing OpenType data again
11:24:21 <sbp> alright, now, how to test this...
11:24:29 <clsn> Hrm. gotta find out what it thinks is missing.
11:25:05 <clsn> Owait, mebbe I should have generated a Mac formatted file and sent that; maybe that makes a diff to Fontforge.
11:25:40 <clsn> Or rather, maybe the difference that makes to fontforge is what matters to OSX.
11:26:30 <clsn> Ah I think I see it
11:26:58 <clsn> I suspect if you try the Devanagari, nothing will work right because I didn't output the "Apple" flavored OpenType goodness...
11:27:10 * sbp makes a document:
11:27:19 <sbp> <!DOCTYPE html>
11:27:19 <sbp> <title>Unicode</title>
11:27:19 <sbp> <p style="font:1.5em MarinTest">     [et seq.]
11:27:50 <clsn> I suppose that's good for a start...
11:29:35 * sbp watches Firefox spin and whirl
11:29:59 <sbp> and crash! ahahaha
11:31:15 <sbp> funny thing is, I don't remember Phoenix ever sucking this much
11:32:30 <sbp> nope, crash again
11:32:38 <sbp> it simply can't display a page with all unicode characters in it
11:33:05 <clsn> That may not be a Marin thing, it may be FF just not dealing with all the chars.
11:33:17 <sbp> yeah, that's what I suspect
11:33:26 <clsn> And of course, Marin doesn't have all the chars.
11:33:42 <clsn> I'll send you one with the Apple thingy turned on, maybe that'll make a difference too.
11:33:44 <sbp> trying Safari
11:35:13 <sbp> Safari thinks about it a bit, and then renders it
11:35:19 <clsn> That's nice...
11:35:38 <clsn> There are pages of Unicode test pages online... Alan Wood I think.
11:35:51 <sbp> I like your Ge'ez
11:36:02 <sbp> the Latin characters in Marin are kinda Ge'ezlike
11:36:17 <sbp> .u ᗤ
11:36:18 <phenny> U+15E4 CANADIAN SYLLABICS CARRIER TTE (ᗤ)
11:36:25 <sbp> your Canadian Syllabics are sweet also
11:37:30 <clsn> Oh.. the latin letters.. I don't have Ge'ez.
11:37:33 <sbp> woah. the circled numbers are weird
11:37:41 <sbp> probably just because of the text figures
11:37:49 <clsn> Yeah, I didn't mess with the symbols when circling them.
11:37:51 <sbp> you don't? ah. Safari must be using substitutes... annoying
11:38:02 <clsn> I have lining figures as alternates someplace.
11:38:25 <clsn> Yes, Safari will grab alternates when the font doesn't have 'em, you can't actually tell what's there and what isn't that way.
11:40:21 <sbp> heh. I'll bet the Klingon is in Marin...
11:43:40 <clsn> Sure.
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12:00:31 <sbp> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I_has_a_shuvel
12:00:57 <_bjoern> .gc equi-distant
12:00:58 <phenny> equi-distant: 1,820,000
12:01:03 <sbp> http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/a/ab/Engineer.jpg
12:01:10 <_bjoern> .gc equi-licious
12:01:11 <phenny> equi-licious: 63
12:01:31 <_bjoern> .gc equi-noxious
12:01:32 <phenny> equi-noxious: 3,600
12:07:26 <sbp> headline of the day:
12:07:28 <sbp> “Dutch man injures posterior in mooning accident”
12:07:44 <_bjoern> .wik mooning
12:07:50 <_bjoern> .gc plutoing
12:07:50 <phenny> plutoing: 366
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12:10:26 <_bjoern> .wik dumbwater
12:10:28 <_bjoern> .wik dumpwater
12:10:53 <phenny> Can't connect to en.wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mooning)
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12:11:18 <_bjoern> "Mooning is the act of displaying one's bare buttocks by removing clothing, e.g. by lowering the back side of one's trousers and underpants, usually bending over, whether also exposing the genitals or not."
12:11:42 <sbp> Monty: expose your genitals
12:11:44 <Monty> JimH, Vero_: I send out at mo' sry 4
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12:13:35 <phenny> Can't connect to en.wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbwater)
12:13:37 <phenny> Can't connect to en.wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpwater)
12:14:40 <sbp> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXmJv3sMJI
12:14:41 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - Sesame Street Casino - Elmo and De Niro - Banned
12:16:49 <sbp> Archbishop Sentamu doing awesomes again:
12:16:52 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7439257.stm
12:16:53 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | England | Archbishop skydives for soldiers
12:17:22 <_bjoern> gr8 pix
12:20:47 <sbp> _bjoern: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/04/dead-voters-still-showing-up-on-election-records-puzzling-officials/
12:21:32 <sbp> .title http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66191
12:21:33 <phenny> sbp: Firefighter stops at Burger King before saving woman
12:22:20 <sbp> [[[
12:22:28 <sbp> Local historians for decades thought the 30-foot tall lighthouse that once overlooked Wellfleet Harbor had been taken down and destroyed in 1925.
12:22:28 <sbp> Turns out, it had just been moved to the California coast.
12:22:33 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_lighthouse_located
12:24:31 <sbp> hehe: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=164532&in_page_id=34
12:25:23 <sbp> .gc "what the several kinds of fuck"
12:25:23 <Monty> potty mouth!
12:25:24 <phenny> "what the several kinds of fuck": 0
12:25:47 <sbp> [[[
12:25:47 <sbp> Call it poetic justice: More than two dozen young people who broke into Robert Frost's former home for a beer party and trashed the place are being required to take classes in his poetry as part of their punishment.
12:25:52 <sbp> ]]] - http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/02/frost.house.ap/index.html
12:26:04 <nslater> LOL
12:27:18 <Arnia> '“I couldn’t imagine because I didn’t think she voted — it was an impossible situation to me,” she said.' (from the Fox article, a woman talking about her dead mother voting)
12:27:40 <Arnia> I love how she didn't *think* she voted, as if there could be some doubt on the matter :)
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12:30:50 <_bjoern> .gc Sockenschuss
12:30:50 <phenny> Sockenschuss: 20,000
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12:33:04 <_bjoern> .gs You don't smell like *
12:33:06 <phenny> You don't smell like *: a (19), flowers (8), you (7), santa (6), an (4), the (2), smoke (2)
12:33:09 <_bjoern> .gs You don't smell like a *
12:33:10 <phenny> You don't smell like a *: dog (7), rose (5), walking (3), human (3), stripper (2), salad (2), pickle (2), horses (2), flower (2), baby's (2)
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12:37:33 <Arnia> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/06/primaryschools.childrensbooks
12:37:34 <phenny> Arnia: Mark Lawson: Book classification dismissed | Comment is free | The Guardian
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12:45:57 <lorvax> and there was much rejoicing
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12:47:33 <_bjoern> no there wasn't.
12:47:38 * Arnia fails to rejoice auch
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12:59:08 <Monty> howdy, KiYanWang_
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13:17:22 <clsn> sbp: so whaddaya think? & did you get the second version with Apple inside?
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13:21:34 <sbp> woah, the alternative take of Travelling Riverside Blues is awesome
13:21:50 <sbp> clsn: seems pretty good to me, though annoyed at not being able to tell which is from which in Safari
13:22:51 <clsn> Neet. I should put it up and figure out how to announce it and whatever. Also probably should send updates to the ones on myfonts.com since maybe now I finally am generating pfm files correctly.
13:23:33 <lorvax> oi clsn 10 a.m. fc
13:23:45 <clsn> I know, rebooting my phone now
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13:31:04 <lorvax> you think that's fun, I've got nonstop conference calls until 11
13:34:00 <clsn> Fun.
13:34:44 * nsh attempts to decypher lorvax's enigmatic code
13:35:59 <lorvax> if you think that's enigmatic, you should see his APL.
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13:41:57 <sbp> [[[
13:41:58 <sbp> The American Folklife Center has recently acquired six test
13:41:58 <sbp> pressings drawn from a recording session with legendary blues
13:41:58 <sbp> singer Robert Johnson (ca. 1911-38). "Test pressing" is the term
13:41:58 <sbp> for a special disc made by a record company to audition a
13:41:58 <sbp> performance they have recorded, often as a prelude to selecting
13:42:00 <sbp> the disc for release. These test pressings came to the Library
13:42:02 <sbp> from the Alan Lomax Archives. One disc (American Record Co. test
13:42:04 <sbp> pressing DAL 400-1, recorded in Dallas, Texas, June 20, 1937)
13:42:06 <sbp> contains a take of Robert Johnson's "Traveling Riverside Blues"--
13:42:08 <sbp> a performance heretofore not known to exist, despite long and
13:42:10 <sbp> intense interest in Johnson by collectors and musicians as a
13:42:12 <sbp> pivotally important Mississippi Delta bluesman of the 1930s.
13:42:14 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.loc.gov/folklife/news/Winter98.txt
13:43:59 <_bjoern> http://qa-dev.w3.org/~bjoern/temp/wikipedia-svg.svgz
13:44:21 <sbp> bwahaha. scary
13:44:24 <sbp> want a screenshot?
13:44:40 <_bjoern> sure!
13:45:21 <_bjoern> It's quite okay in ASV6 but much of the text is off in Opera/Firefox
13:45:47 <sbp> eek! check out http://photos.cx/
13:46:01 <_bjoern> I know I said so earlier on swhack...
13:46:06 <sbp> ôsry
13:46:19 <_bjoern> someone recommended some alternative
13:46:23 <_bjoern> I forgot it of course
13:47:19 <sbp> I'll just use imageshack
13:47:27 <sbp> used to use it before d8uv turned me on to photos.cx
13:48:30 <sbp> _bjoern: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3307/wikipediasvgia1.png
13:49:06 <_bjoern> yeah similar here
13:53:30 * sbp emails Layered Tech as suggested in the photos.cx message
14:04:41 <sbp> hehe, thx
14:04:46 <sbp> how are you making these?
14:05:38 <_bjoern> [[[
14:05:46 <_bjoern> QWebPage *page = centralWidget->webView->page();
14:05:46 <_bjoern> QWebFrame *mainFrame = page->mainFrame();
14:05:46 <_bjoern> page->setViewportSize( mainFrame->contentsSize() );
14:05:46 <_bjoern> mainFrame->setScrollBarPolicy(Qt::Horizontal, Qt::ScrollBarAlwaysOff);
14:05:46 <_bjoern> mainFrame->setScrollBarPolicy(Qt::Vertical, Qt::ScrollBarAlwaysOff);
14:05:47 <_bjoern> QSvgGenerator* svg = new QSvgGenerator();
14:05:49 <_bjoern> svg->setFileName("example.svg");
14:05:51 <_bjoern> svg->setSize(page->viewportSize());
14:05:53 <_bjoern> QPainter painter(svg);
14:05:55 <_bjoern> page->mainFrame()->render(&painter);
14:05:57 <_bjoern> painter.end();
14:05:59 <_bjoern> ]]]
14:06:27 <sbp> ah, QtWebkitCapt
14:06:53 <sbp> neatœs
14:06:59 <_bjoern> I suppose you could make one using pyqt4
14:07:05 <lorvax> kewl.
14:07:19 <lorvax> sigh. news.${ISP}.net is down. life ceases to have meaning.
14:07:46 <sbp> for you, the September of No End just ended
14:07:54 <_bjoern> use gmane and read mailing lists.
14:09:01 <lorvax> i ran out of mailing lists to read. i'm on hold waiting for a conference call to begin.
14:09:12 <nsh> what's this conference call about?
14:09:26 <nsh> and how's it going to help me do cool stuff?
14:10:06 <jsled> hmm. javascript-based mouse gestures in gmail labs.
14:10:33 <jsled> I wonder if somehow it'll be useful, unlike pretty much every gestures thing I've seen.
14:10:39 <lorvax> it won't help you at all. I'm just whining.
14:11:26 * nsh always assumed that mouse gestures were of some utility to some group of people that have both an affinity for that control method and the time and inclination to learn them
14:11:33 <lorvax> remember: life lost meaning when I couldn't read netnews.
14:12:01 <jsled> I guess that's a big part of it, personally, is being anti-mouse.
14:12:14 * nsh expresses concord
14:14:00 <lorvax> i've yet to find mouse gestures to be significantly more expressive than keyboard commands ,especially since my hands are already on the keyboard (nubby-mid-keyboard pointing devices excluded)
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14:32:29 <mahound> _bjoern: that code snippet change my life
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14:32:41 <_bjoern> how so?
14:34:42 <mahound> changed, rather
14:36:13 <mahound> _bjoern: some months ago i spent like days looking for a way to render webpages to memory without having to use a fake x11 server or any other hack
14:37:06 <_bjoern> Just switch to windows and use my http://iecapt.sf.net/ ... :-)
14:38:41 <mahound> _bjoern: same thing... you always depend on some OS-level rendering mechanism
14:40:20 <nsh> hmm
14:41:30 <nsh> does gecko require the windowing system to render?
14:42:33 <mahound> nsh: i guess so
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14:42:50 <mahound> now even more, that they use native widgets for FF
14:44:22 <nslater> mahound: did you see swards advice this morning about running XvFb?
14:45:13 <mahound> nslater: nay
14:45:16 <mahound> let me search
14:45:23 <nslater> mahound: no no, in the other place
14:45:23 <Monty> Because I've not at a virgin?
14:45:32 <mahound> nslater: oh, ok
14:45:39 <mahound> gotta check the logs
14:47:15 <mahound> nslater: i considered that, but it's a hack anyway :P
14:47:23 <xover> Hmm. You can now submit corrections to item metadata to Amazon.co.uk, and they'll review it and update the catalog.
14:47:51 <mahound> it would be sweet if one could do it without the need of fake xservers, rendering devices, etc
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14:52:41 <nslater> .wik exploding animal
14:53:00 <nslater> phenny!
14:53:02 <phenny> nslater!
14:53:03 <mahound> fail...
14:53:05 <phenny> "An exploding animal is an animal that explodes either through natural causes or the intervention of humans." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_animal
14:53:05 <nslater> .g asploding animal
14:53:08 <phenny> nslater: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/ghostbusters08/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-39566617&pid=944011&page=3
14:53:38 <nslater> .wik exploding whale
14:53:40 <phenny> "Exploding whales have been documented on two notable occasions, as well as several lesser-known ones." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_whale
14:54:26 <nslater> "A significant population of toads in Germany and Denmark were exploding in April 2005,[3] in an act described as a self-defense mechanism that failed, as it consisted of puffing up to look bigger while under attack by crows."
14:54:30 <nslater> yeah, megafail
14:54:58 <nslater> "There are several species of ants, such as Camponotus saundersi, in southeast Asia that explode as a defensive mechanism to protect their nests from intruders."
14:55:06 <nslater> wow, nature is a bitch sometimes
14:55:13 <nsh> hahah
14:55:43 <nsh> ant told us he wuz hardcore
14:55:46 <nslater> [[[
14:55:48 <nslater> While a large reduction in atmospheric pressure on a human usually only causes decompression sickness, there is one case of a sudden massive pressure drop causing a human to explode. In 1983, four divers were in a decompression chamber aboard the Byford Dolphin oil rig. The chamber explosively decompressed from 9 atm to 1 atm following the improper opening of a pressure clamp. The sudden decompression killed all four divers, with the diver nearest ...
14:55:54 <nslater> ... the open clamp literally exploding. The rapid expansion of dissolved gases in his body caused the ejection of his internal organs, with one part of his body found 10 m above the chamber.
14:55:58 <nslater> ]]]
14:56:01 <nslater> wow
14:56:21 <nsh> indeed
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15:42:38 <nslater> how do you describe something as being concise in the same way you can say something should be done for consitency
15:42:50 <nslater> ... I want to say "concistancy" :)
15:43:05 <clsn> conciseness? simplicity? parsimony?
15:43:20 <nslater> .wordnet conciseness
15:43:27 <nslater> .dict conciseness
15:43:29 <nslater> .w conciseness
15:43:31 <phenny> conciseness - 1. short and clearly written or stated
15:43:32 <nslater> .fail conciseness
15:43:32 <phenny> conciseness n. 1: Terseness and economy in writing and speaking achieved by expressing a great deal in just a few words.
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15:43:41 <nslater> hmm, what an ugly word
15:43:56 <sbp> http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2000/luckycopper1bq6.jpg
15:44:02 <sbp> via silenius
15:45:26 <nslater> yo n5h
15:45:28 <n5h> but being a closed-world semantics?
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15:48:30 <nslater> kinkeh
15:48:59 <cre8radix> lol
15:49:01 <cre8radix> rofl
15:49:03 <cre8radix> http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2000/luckycopper1bq6.jpg
15:49:15 <sbp> cre8radix: see about a dozen lines up...
15:49:34 <cre8radix> ah
15:49:40 <sbp> :-)
15:49:51 <cre8radix> sbp: hrhr
15:49:57 <cre8radix> that shit's so funny
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15:51:01 <nsh> that story is older than radar
15:51:15 <nsh> still kinda chuckles though
15:51:54 <sbp> ah, here we go:
15:51:56 <sbp> .title http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/radar.asp
15:51:57 <phenny> sbp: snopes.com: Police Radar Prompts Missile
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15:54:51 <sbp> “I seem to remember that story making Aircraft Illustrated, and it was reported as a Harrier GR7.” - http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=1135
15:55:37 * nsh Will Never Understand People Who Type Like This
15:57:46 <nslater> whatever happened to le storken?
16:00:02 <nsh> .calc 251 euro in pounds
16:00:05 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, can't calculate that.
16:00:16 <nsh> .calc 251 euros in pounds
16:00:17 <phenny> nsh: Sorry, can't calculate that.
16:00:19 <nslater> try gbp
16:00:21 <nsh> your mum
16:00:24 <nslater> nu
16:00:31 <nsh> .calc 251 euro in gbp
16:00:34 <phenny> 251 euro in gbp = 394.84559 dollar (currency) -> gbp gbp
16:00:41 <nsh> margh
16:00:42 <nslater> wat
16:00:45 <nsh> .c 251 euro in gbp
16:00:46 <phenny> 251 Euros = 200.081207 British pounds
16:00:56 <nsh> is better
16:01:06 <nsh> stoopid sbp implementin moar other calculauteurs
16:01:06 <sbp> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.robotics.misc/browse_thread/thread/8a8f32ef5032d562/cc7227298d6dd1f3?lnk=st&q=police+radar+fighter+jet#cc7227298d6dd1f3 from 1999
16:01:18 <sbp> n5h never moans at me
16:01:19 <n5h> realist, right. but what about?
16:01:36 <sbp> n5h: you nevah moan at me about anyting!
16:01:38 <n5h> twe.
16:01:43 <nslater> i miss twe
16:01:46 <sbp> twe doesn't either
16:03:48 <sbp> ooh, a source. “Scottish News - 16 October 1997 The following article appeared in the Berwickshire Gazette”
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16:35:06 <MoiraA> sbp
16:35:07 <MoiraA> sbp
16:43:36 <nsh> PROBLEM: everyone is an idiot
16:43:39 <nsh> SOLUTION: ??
16:44:35 <nelix> redefine idiot
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16:46:30 <nsh> i think the problem is that literacy levels are far too high
16:47:03 <nsh> it's like when people move from new zealand to australia, and the average IQ of both countries goes up
16:47:26 <nsh> the more people who leave the primordial slime, the lower the IQ of those within and without
16:47:51 <MoiraA> phenny: tell sbp please contact me
16:47:52 <phenny> MoiraA: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
16:47:54 <nsh> communicating needs to be harder.
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17:07:54 <jdentures> :(
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17:08:20 <jdentures> \o/
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17:09:09 <jdentures> hellos n5h
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17:09:55 <jdentures> n5h!
17:10:39 <jdentures> n5h?
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17:43:43 <_bjoern> the inamidst svg is full of "font-size="-1pt"" ...
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17:52:48 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp caribbean monk seal now extinct, says noaa
17:52:49 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
17:54:05 <sbp> Morbus: hmm. Wikipedia indicates that this has been so since the 1950s
17:54:05 <phenny> sbp: 17:52Z <Morbus> tell sbp caribbean monk seal now extinct, says noaa
17:54:14 <sbp> why the NOAA update?
17:54:18 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Monk_Seal
17:55:13 <Morbus> that's odd.
17:55:25 <Morbus> it was on endangered before.
17:55:26 <Morbus> http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080606_monkseal.html
17:56:38 <_bjoern> Maybe they are just HIDING.
17:56:41 <Morbus> the wikipedia article cites http://www.iucnredlist.org/search/details.php/13655/all
17:56:47 <Morbus> which doesn't show extinct until 1994.
17:57:22 <sbp> ah, seen != exist I guess
17:57:26 <_bjoern> .title http://amazon.com/
17:57:27 <phenny> _bjoern: Couldn't get the Content-Type, sorry
17:57:30 <_bjoern> .head http://amazon.com/
17:57:31 <phenny> _bjoern: 503, 62 bytes
17:57:32 <sbp> I suppose they've just been really thorough about it
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17:58:08 <_bjoern> I wonder what being down costs them per minute? (If anything, next day's news coverage might always make up for it)
17:58:21 <sbp> hehe
17:58:31 <sbp> perhaps they did it deliberately
17:58:41 <_bjoern> Yes, always a possibility.
17:58:42 <_bjoern> .ety tomorrow
17:58:43 <phenny> "c.1275, to morewe, from O.E. to morgenne 'on (the) morrow,' from to 'at, on' (see to) + morgenne, dative of morgen 'morning.' Written as two words until 16c., then as to-morrow until early 20c." - http://etymonline.com/?term=tomorrow
17:59:11 <_bjoern> This is about the first time I ever read Dative in en.
17:59:55 <_bjoern> .ety morrow
17:59:56 <phenny> "c.1275, morwe, shortened variation of morewen 'morrow' (see morn)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=morrow
18:00:01 <_bjoern> .ety morn
18:00:01 <phenny> "contracted from M.E. morwen, from O.E. (Mercian) margen (dat. marne), earlier morgen (dat. morgne), from P.Gmc. *marganaz, *murganaz 'morning' (cf. O.H.G. morgen, Goth. maurgins), perhaps from PIE base *mergh- 'to blink, twinkle' (cf. Lith. mirgeti 'to blink')." - http://etymonline.com/?term=morn
18:00:41 <sbp> en used to have lots of crazy shit
18:00:45 <sbp> it just got eroded over time
18:00:53 <sbp> eventually we're gonna be caseless or something
18:00:55 <_bjoern> replaced by crazy shit.
18:01:00 <sbp> hehe
18:01:09 <sbp> principle of conversation of crazy shit
18:01:09 <Monty> potty mouth!
18:01:12 <sbp> nu
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18:03:40 <_bjoern> "WTF is Ruby and what is so great about it? It just seems like Java for people who hate Java" - /.
18:03:50 <Morbus> heh
18:09:34 <_bjoern> http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/06/mahdi_army_uses_flyi.php - I wonder whether they'll eventually make a new MacGyver series off this?
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18:37:48 <zachb> Amazon's down!!!
18:38:11 <lorvax> imminent death of the net predicted
18:38:13 <lorvax> film at 11
18:39:04 <thelsdj> zachb: try https
18:39:41 <zachb> Invalid security cert
18:40:44 <lorvax> Based on last quarter's revenue of $4.13 billion, a full-scale global outage would cost Amazon more than $31,000 per minute on average.
18:40:49 <lorvax> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9962010-7.html?tag=nefd.top
18:41:47 <zachb> Mhmm
18:42:32 <sbp> so basically they're firing one employee per minute until it's fixed...
18:43:16 <thelsdj> zachb: https://www.amazon.com/
18:43:44 <sbp> thelsdj: he knows. see <zachb> Amazon's down!!!
18:43:56 <thelsdj> sbp: no, point is that https works
18:44:01 <sbp> zachb: also, we knew. see <phenny> _bjoern: 503, 62 bytes
18:44:08 <sbp> oh! sorry
18:44:12 <sbp> missed the s!
18:44:17 <lorvax> yah, but ... try to click thru to anything. the http side is borken; https: pages don't point to https: hrefs
18:44:26 <clsn> Holy moly, Sharper Image is closing all its stores AND its website is off too. At least sales therefrom.
18:44:50 <jsled> Sharper Image was in chapter 11, right?
18:44:53 <lorvax> clsn: where will we get our overpriced crap now? thinkgeek?
18:44:54 <jsled> s/was/is/?
18:44:55 <clsn> It's a good thing we aren't in a recession though.
18:45:14 <thelsdj> lorvax: huh, thats weird, suprised they do that
18:45:28 <clsn> jsled: See, and I didn't even know that. Dammit, I told them the clouds around my head are thick, they need to broadcast LOUD.
18:46:01 <clsn> There's a sharper image store near me... if this weren't such a busy weekend, that might be an idea. oh well.
18:46:05 <zachb> I just like being a bit late
18:46:06 <zachb> its fun
18:46:07 <lorvax> https: URLs are working, if you click through on something and get 503 on http, just edit to https and good to go. sorta.
18:46:16 <zachb> LOOK! NINJA!
18:46:37 <lorvax> zachb: you know, twitter has had outages recently, too.
18:47:30 <thelsdj> american airlines was down for quite a while recently too
18:48:01 <zachb> yeah, but its AMAZON
18:48:10 <zachb> they're 99% web-based
18:48:17 <zachb> and they actually make moneies
18:48:21 <zachb> ... monies
18:48:26 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp that mark bernstein just described ghyll. http://www.markbernstein.org/Jun0801/WikiMystery3WikiNarrative.html
18:48:26 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
18:48:56 <Morbus> phenny, tell sbp you should email him too ;)
18:48:56 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
18:51:46 <_bjoern> .title http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4996285&page=1
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18:51:47 <phenny> _bjoern: ABC News: Indicted Saudi Gets $80 Million US Contract
18:56:19 <clsn> .title http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=5015081&page=1
18:56:20 <phenny> clsn: ABC News: Zimbabwe President: Vote for Me or Starve
18:56:58 <_bjoern> He has a powerful message for the people.
18:58:28 <clsn> Yeah. Man, it's pretty stark; I can't believe he's going to get away with the tactics he's using. And he probably will.
18:58:50 <clsn> But for those with long-term plans:
18:58:54 <clsn> .title http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5008225&page=1
18:58:55 <phenny> clsn: ABC News: Texas 'Prophet': Doomsday Begins June 12
19:01:08 <clsn> [[[ I love some of these comments. "This guy must be a wacko, not because he's obviously an insane, deluded religious freak, but because MY OWN insane, deluded religious beliefs told me he can't be right." Not too much of a difference folks. ]]]
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19:02:56 <_bjoern> So I take it U"..." will be a char32_t utf-32 string in C++ v.next...
19:02:56 <Monty> "you"
19:03:10 <_bjoern> Yes Monty, I too will be a utf-32 string.
19:03:16 <Monty> Afaik, all its website is closing all servers that we share, That it's a particular character sections, and I guess
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19:06:00 <lorvax> clsn: how is zimbabwe's message different than McCain's: "Vote for me or the terrorists will overtake us."
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19:07:05 <clsn> It's different. McCain isn't checking party affiliation before personally shipping you off to be overtaken.
19:08:32 <lorvax> well...let's not be hasty now.
19:09:04 * nsh would not be surprised if the US and Zimbabwe soon have even more in common
19:09:15 <nsh> namely, very large denomination bank-notes
19:09:16 <Monty> yep
19:09:31 <nsh> Monty knows a depression when he espies one
19:09:31 <Monty> That is interesting. Please continue.
19:10:00 <clsn> If you are in his party, they'll give you food. If not, you have to give up your national ID card, so you can't vote. And nobody else is allowed to bring in food. That's definitely more strong-armed than even McCain, nay even Cheney has tried yet.
19:10:35 <lorvax> clsn: when hyperinflation hits, you'll see some very interesting weimar-style happenings
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19:10:59 <clsn> That may be. But so far, Zimbabwe is decidedly in the lead.
19:11:13 <lorvax> that's true. I was mostly talking about the message
19:12:21 <clsn> Mugabe is still way more explicit about it.
19:15:42 <nsh> it's like a video game
19:16:12 <nsh> where there is the same theme across levels, only the extremity of circumstances differs
19:16:31 <nsh> such is the thematic orchestration of the collective unconscious
19:17:01 <lorvax> ...hilarity ensued.
19:17:09 <clsn> Indeed.
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19:59:24 <deltab> sbp etc: Doctor Who repeat on BBC3 now
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