00:21:21 <zachb> that's random?
00:21:39 <xover> You're random.
00:48:39 <Arnia> He's IO Random
00:49:03 <Arnia> zachb :: (MonadIO m) => m Random
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00:49:10 <Arnia> (for generality's sake)
00:57:56 <zachb> yay?
00:58:18 <zachb> No, actually, I realized I configured Pidgin to ignore join & part. So it just seemed random
00:58:59 <zachb> now it should work better *hmph*
01:02:21 <Arnia> zachb: I just described you as an algebra/computation which returns random generators in an IO type universe
01:02:31 * Arnia is still bouncing over Turn Left
01:06:20 <Arnia> Hm... the BBC's YouTube channel has gone a little crazy with it however
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01:45:47 <zachb> Oh... my... god... this IS HILARIOUS
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01:45:59 <zachb> [[[
01:46:00 <zachb> Little lesson of English:
01:46:00 <zachb> quite means carefull, silent.
01:46:00 <zachb> quit means to exit, to retire e.t.c.
01:46:00 <zachb> ]]]
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01:52:48 <zachb> I found that hilarious
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01:55:48 <zachb> loggy: uri?
01:55:48 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-06-22#T01-55-48
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03:38:58 <bjoern_> seen perigrin
03:38:58 <Monty> I have not seen "perigrin" say or do anything during my arduous lifetime on this IRC server.
03:39:02 <bjoern_> .seen perigrin
03:39:03 <phenny> Sorry, I haven't seen perigrin around.
03:39:23 <bjoern_> .swhack perigrin
03:39:24 <phenny> bjoern_: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
03:39:38 <bjoern_> upgrade your html phenny omg
03:39:45 <bjoern_> Or Monty will do it for you.
03:39:49 <Monty> strange women; they had aim that they're adventuring into 2.4%!
03:48:59 <selggig> Monty \o/
03:49:06 <Monty> having some degree. in the turks win, I'll turn that middle phase, just said Friday intellectual-property holders should not!
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07:27:52 <sbp> yo
07:35:06 <bjoern_> YA DIRTY YA DIRTY YA DIRTY
07:35:27 <sbp> ksry
07:35:33 <bjoern_> ysry?
07:35:38 <sbp> where'd _b68e9n_ go?
07:35:46 <sbp> ô, good DIRTY or bad DIRTY?
07:36:07 <bjoern_> I JUST QUOTE
07:36:22 <bjoern_> _b68e9n_ sounds teh evilz
07:38:23 <sbp> the only thing evilz about it was its lag
07:38:40 <bjoern_> you totally got the name wrong then.
07:38:58 <bjoern_> Or I do, but how likely is that!
07:39:16 <bjoern_> yah totally wrong, U
07:44:22 <sbp> made it ups : : : ( ( (
07:44:45 <bjoern_> Don't : : : ( ( ( me!
07:45:09 <bjoern_> Be a man, cheat your way out of your misery!
07:47:22 <sbp> .gc "Tomnadashan Mine"
07:47:23 <phenny> "Tomnadashan Mine": 20
07:47:35 <sbp> I will cheats with magic ascii symobls!
07:47:46 <sbp> * ! £ & @ @ ( ) " { : } _ + @{ !}
07:47:55 <sbp> (note, one of these was not ascii. see if you can guess which!)
07:48:34 <bjoern_> counter magix
07:49:25 <bjoern_>
07:49:28 <bjoern_> sekret msg
07:49:32 <bjoern_>
07:49:39 <bjoern_> control magix
07:49:57 <bjoern_> ()
07:54:58 <sbp> bjoern_(question for bjoern_)
07:55:04 <sbp> bjoern_(why is ur _ wrong side plz)
07:55:29 <bjoern_> It switches sides every now and then.
08:48:19 <sbp> "The fern-shaped flames blazing up from a melting pot on the street in front of a building under construction." - Kafka
08:49:18 <xover> It loses a bit in translation.
08:49:52 <sbp> .ety pulchritude
08:49:53 <phenny> "'beauty,' c.1400, from L. pulchritudo, from pulcher 'beautiful,' of unknown origin." - http://etymonline.com/?term=pulchritude
08:57:04 <sbp> xover: the only difference is probably that in the original it's more like:
08:57:53 <sbp> "The fern-shaped firewaves from-a-melting-pot-on-the-street-in-front-of-a-building-under-construction up blazing."
08:58:10 <xover> Yes.
08:58:26 <sbp> Kafka was always that doing
08:58:38 <sbp> totally his verbs at the end of insanely long sentences putting
09:01:02 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 55 minutes to watch Countryfile
09:01:02 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Sun Jun 22 10:54:28 BST 2008
09:02:55 <sbp> [[[
09:02:56 <sbp> It is easy to recognize a concentration in me of all my forces on writing. When it became clear in my organism that writing was the most productive direction for my being to take, everything rushed in that direction and left empty all those abilities which were directed towards the joys of sex, eating, drinking, philosophical reflection, and above all music.
09:02:56 <sbp> ]]]
09:03:54 <bjoern_> I shall go to the uni library now. I will tell them, I have a pdf to print, monies on my card, and no clues.
09:04:53 <sbp> I hope that they lead you down the path of true printing enlightenment
09:05:03 <sbp> because if not, you should complain to their superiors
09:05:15 <sbp> and if their superiors do not listen, complain to the metasuperiors!
09:05:34 <bjoern_> I could beat them until I'm enlightened?
09:06:19 <sbp> they're more likely to become enlightened
09:06:31 <sbp> "why am I dispensing PDF advice?"
09:06:34 <bjoern_> by my touch, yes, they would not be the first.
09:07:52 <bjoern_> okay apparently my train is leaving NOW
09:08:10 <bjoern_> without me then it seems
09:08:50 <bjoern_> Yes, that does suck. I can miss the next one in 19 minutes.
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09:10:02 <sbp> do the PDF advice people disappear after a certain time in the day, like mushroom gnomes?
09:10:17 <sbp> actually, I'm not sure about mushroom gnomes
09:10:56 <bjoern_> They just need to advise getting my pdf loaded in some pdf app, then I can utilize the print button myself.
09:11:32 <bjoern_> They are supposed to have printing stations, so, print button would give me a number, and I go to station, enter my card with monies, then the number, then it'll print.
09:12:02 <bjoern_> I never used the lib computers, in fact, I mostly didn't use the lib at all.
09:12:17 <bjoern_> but my linux pool is closed, so I have little choice it seems.
09:12:41 <sbp> why can't you print it at home? too big a doc? printer borken? no printer?
09:13:16 <bjoern_> it's 77 pages and my printer isn't the most healthy printer.
09:13:25 <bjoern_> And I am not sure I have 77 sheets of paper left here.
09:13:50 <bjoern_> Yes, I too like that it's 77 pages exactly.
09:15:27 <bjoern_> Personally I'm hoping they are bored and just click the print button for me after I hand them the stick.
09:15:34 <sbp> hehe
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09:26:40 <sbp> [[[
09:26:41 <sbp> One of the subjects to be discussed in New Hamphsire is, in Huk's words, "How changing poetries in new cultural contexts force us to rethink old debates about the subject, reader, and politics of form." One would think this is a topic that would interest the intellectuals who are Bérubé's constituency, but the facts speak otherwise.
09:26:51 <sbp> The academy's aim over the last decade has been to make poetry as invisible as possible. Indeed, poetry (literature in general) is only permitted to appear in "and" and "in" constructions, as in the ubiquitous conference title "Literature and the Law," or as in the article title "Interrogating Domestic Ideology in American Women's Poetry" (the lead essay in the most recent issue of American Literary History).
09:26:58 <sbp> But the idea of poetry as a language construct, poetry as delight, poetry as itself a form of knowledge and not necessarily a conduit for domestic or any other ideology is rejected by most academics.
09:27:03 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.altx.com/ebr/ebr2/2perloff.htm
09:27:38 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Interrogating Domestic Ideology in American Women's Poetry"
09:29:35 <sbp> this prof's work is quite interesting
09:29:43 <sbp> but she's still steeped in the very problem that she denounces, it seems
09:30:03 <sbp> commenting on the problem from inside the problem...
09:30:13 <sbp> and the outside of the problem is still a problem anyway. heh
09:36:55 <sbp> [[[
09:36:55 <sbp> All these theorems are put before us as if they were simply a matter of common-sense, even though critical theory of the past half century has dismantled, step by step, the notion of the authentic ur-poem, destroyed by later misreadings, the poem as catharsis of "conflicting emotions" (shades of I. A. Richards!), best understood by other poets.
09:37:01 <sbp> ]]] - http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/authors/perloff/lit.html
09:37:49 <sbp> apparently she refers to post-structuralism?
09:38:17 <sbp> funny how self-serving it is
09:38:49 <sbp> ongoing reception of works must be valid, otherwise there'd be no need for critics!
09:45:12 <sbp> [[[
09:45:13 <sbp> Those of us who don't quite subscribe to the notion that American poetry in the 1990s is written under the sign of E. M. Forster needn't worry.
09:45:15 <sbp> ]]] - ibid.
09:45:29 <sbp> do Americans who write poetry only ever write American poetry?
09:45:41 <sbp> or is American poetry some kind of genre with a provincial name, like Modernism?
09:45:51 <xover> By definition, I'd say.
09:46:34 * sbp wonders how useful nationalistic monikers are for poetry compared to monikers of style and theme and influences
09:47:03 * xover wonders how useful monikers are for poetry…
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09:49:05 <sbp> yeah, sorry, meant criticism
09:49:08 <sbp> [[[
09:49:09 <sbp> And second, it was taken for granted that a review of "literature" was just that--a review of novels, poems, plays, perhaps belles-lettres, not, as is typical today, books on political, historical, psychological, anthropological subjects, on current events, and especially biographies
09:49:17 <sbp> ]]] - on reviews in the 19th/20th century pivot
09:50:14 <sbp> (actually, meant *in* criticism)
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09:50:40 * xover wonders how useful criticism is for poetry…
09:51:34 * xover does a mashup of Solipsism and Nihilism…
09:55:00 <sbp> [[[
09:55:00 <sbp> Does this mean he is not good at creating an atmosphere of rural menace? Lambs stolen by vicious vagrants? Cows on speed jumping over fences?
09:55:01 <sbp> ]]]
09:55:15 <sbp> well, good criticism is good by definition... :-)
09:55:21 <xover> Crack Cowcain!
09:55:26 <sbp> hehe
09:55:35 <sbp> I think criticism can fulfill a few useful functions:
09:55:44 <sbp> * it can direct you to decent things that you would otherwise have missed
09:56:04 <sbp> * it can raise obvious points about work that you might have missed
09:56:19 <sbp> * it can raise non-obvious points about work that can create new movements etc.
09:56:32 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to watch Countryfile
09:57:32 <xover> I think criticism qua commentary has value; but “Criticism” is a pretentious mire best avoided and ignored.
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10:03:39 <cre8radix> ahoi
10:07:56 <sbp> yo cre8radix
10:08:02 <sbp> xover: yeah, agreed
10:08:13 <sbp> funny to read about it though
10:08:24 <sbp> I suppose reading about it too much would be like subscribing to www-tag, though
10:08:45 <sbp> teh masochism
10:11:57 <sbp> also, it kinda annoys me all the cycles going to waste
10:12:13 <sbp> I'll bet Criticism is just as addictive as webarch wanking
10:12:48 <sbp> opiates of the intelligent masses
10:14:29 <xover> Elitism is a drug more addictive than Heroin.
10:14:54 <xover> Seriously, I would recommend you take up smoking instead.
10:15:47 <sbp> hmm, I'm not sure I'd call it mainly Elitism
10:15:53 <xover> According to the latest issue of Scientific American, nicotine has the singular distinction of triggering permanent changes in brain chemistry from the first drag.
10:16:04 <sbp> I'd guess a lot of it is the whole self-serving problem. seeking tenure, seeking funding
10:16:48 <sbp> latest issue: funny, I heard that years ago
10:16:55 <sbp> my Chemistry teacher told me, I think
10:17:19 * sbp wondered about passive smoking, he recalls
10:17:48 <xover> Well, the accepted theory, so they say, is that so long as you smoke less than five a day you're not physically addicted; it's just a bad habit.
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10:18:34 <sbp> ah. good old addiction self-denial
10:19:08 <xover> Well, this was the accepted wisdom among GPs and doctors; it's what's written in their The Book!
10:19:23 <sbp> bet GPs did their fair bit of smoking too...
10:19:42 <xover> I think with passive smoking the concentration of nicotine is so low that you don't really get that effect, it's all the waste products (tar, etc.) that you breathe in unfiltered that's the problem (I'm speculating here).
10:20:11 <sbp> benzene, polonium...
10:20:19 <xover> Strychnine…
10:20:35 <sbp> wonder how passive smoking compares to LA/Beijing's atmosphere?
10:20:39 <sbp> that'd be a fun study
10:20:46 <sbp> which is more toxic: nearby smokers, or Beijing?
10:20:47 <sbp> hehe
10:20:50 <xover> I'd be willing to lay some bets on that one.
10:21:02 <sbp> go on, speculate away
10:21:35 <sbp> .wik Reiki
10:21:36 <phenny> "Reiki (霊気 or レイキ, Reiki|?| IPA: /ˈreɪkiː/) is a spiritual practice[1]| used as a complementary therapy[2]| developed in 1922 by Mikao Usui." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiki
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10:22:39 <sbp> .gc "where there's much, there's brass"
10:22:40 <phenny> "where there's much, there's brass": 22
10:22:40 <sbp> argh
10:22:44 <sbp> .gc "where there's muck, there's brass"
10:22:45 <phenny> "where there's muck, there's brass": 37,200
10:22:50 <sbp> wins
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10:25:40 <Monty> yo kpreid!
10:26:56 <sbp> heh, they just used "modernism" on Countryfile with a small m
10:27:09 <sbp> applied to art though. talking about artists in Cornwall
10:31:02 <sbp> heh, looks like all the artists in St. Ives are just following Turner
10:31:08 <sbp> that always kinda bugs me about art
10:31:23 <sbp> really good artists make the artistic landmarks
10:31:35 <sbp> and then all the minor artists follow them to try to discover what they saw
10:31:41 <cre8radix> hrhr
10:31:54 <cre8radix> hell yeah
10:32:06 <sbp> like Jonathan Meades said about Greta Bridge
10:32:20 * cre8radix listens to mozart
10:32:30 <sbp> hehe
10:33:04 <sbp> .gs art is *
10:33:06 <phenny> art is *: resistance (5), hard (4), udderly (3), deceitful (3), activism (3), a (3), timeless (2), ripped (2), pleased (2), murder (2), mierle (2)
10:33:16 <cre8radix> ripped
10:33:18 <cre8radix> hrhr
10:33:20 <sbp> .gs art is udderly *
10:33:21 <phenny> art is udderly *: ridiculous, free)
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10:34:32 <Monty> yo swhask!
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10:38:59 <sbp> "as you can probably imagine, 150,000 people produce a lot of human waste"
10:39:09 <sbp> - someone commenting on the Glastonbury Festival
10:47:22 <sbp> dawn chorus = territory establishment?
10:47:37 <sbp> they think that it's ... hehe, there's a chiffchaff
10:47:54 <sbp> that it's a test of whether a bird's neighbours are still there
10:53:27 <sbp> SCCCR
11:11:17 <sbp> [[[
11:11:17 <sbp> Long-lived books of hours could also be modified for their new owner. After defeating Richard III, Henry VII gave Richard's book of hours to his mother, and she modified it to include her name.
11:11:23 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_hours
11:13:20 <sbp> ...Felipe Massa injured his neck by sneezing in a lift
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11:24:04 <sbp> [[[
11:24:05 <sbp> *moonlight is 1/50,000 the intensity of sunlight
11:24:05 <sbp> *moonlight is too weak to support photosynthesis
11:24:11 <sbp> ]]] - http://web.archive.org/web/20051124110523/http://www.lander.edu/rsfox/306lightLec.htm
11:26:39 <sbp> [[[
11:26:40 <sbp> On Earth, starlight PAR is inadequate for photosynthetically supported growth. An increase in starlight even to reach the minimum theoretical levels to allow for photosynthesis would require a universe that was approximately ten million times older, or with a ten million times greater density of stars, than is the case for the present universe.
11:26:46 <sbp> Photosynthesis on an ELP using PAR reflected from a natural satellite with the same size as our Moon, but at the Roche limit, could support a low rate of photosynthesis at full Moon.
11:26:52 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.astrobiology.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=21786
11:27:38 <sbp> ah, interesting:
11:27:39 <sbp> .title http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/questions/question/1769/
11:27:41 <phenny> sbp: Moonlight Photosynthesis - The Naked Scientists November 2007
11:27:57 <sbp> all apropos of the first stanza of http://www.birdhouse.org/words/janan/lawn.html
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11:40:41 <_bjoern> I totally pwnd them.
11:41:16 <sbp> awesome
11:41:25 <sbp> all 77 pages printed a hundred times?
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11:41:48 <_bjoern> Once.
11:42:02 <_bjoern> Their computers are teh phunnies.
11:42:22 <_bjoern> Linux boots, you login, then it starts VMWare and boots winxp inside the vm.
11:42:28 <sbp> bwahaha
11:42:32 <sbp> "surprise!"
11:42:45 <_bjoern> Well I suppose that way they keep the drives clean.
11:42:55 <sbp> and get some usability inside some security
11:43:38 <_bjoern> After printing I wanted to send the copies via our postal service
11:44:01 <_bjoern> I was unlucky at first, because they apparently just emptied the Briefkästen
11:44:12 <_bjoern> and would not empty them again for another 24 hours
11:44:30 <_bjoern> But clever me went to the central station
11:44:37 <_bjoern> only to find out there, too, he is too late
11:44:55 <_bjoern> EXCPET that a postman was just emptying some around the corner
11:45:06 <_bjoern> So I throw my latters into his bag
11:45:16 <_bjoern> extreme pwnage.
11:45:32 <_bjoern> oh I think Briefkasten is letter box.
11:45:35 <sbp> heh, heh
11:45:41 <sbp> makes sense in context
11:45:54 <sbp> reminds me of Homer filing his tax report
11:46:01 <sbp> er, tax return even
11:46:20 <_bjoern> In honesty, it's just my sekret plan to feed ur brainz with german.
11:46:24 <sbp> hehe
11:46:30 <sbp> easy one to remember
11:46:40 <sbp> because my first thought was you stuffing the letter into a briefcase
11:46:53 <sbp> so now I'll just remember German briefcase = English postbox
11:47:18 <sbp> ultima languagewins
11:47:31 <_bjoern> "Postbox" would probably pass as german
11:47:49 <sbp> masc or fem?
11:47:55 <sbp> or njuter
11:47:56 <_bjoern> f
11:48:06 <sbp> what about post and box separately?
11:48:17 <_bjoern> Die Post, die Box (both f)
11:48:38 <sbp> mmm... f on f noun action
11:49:20 <_bjoern> So what do I do now, other than getting drunk?
11:49:33 <_bjoern> I was pondering lido saving but I am not entirely enthusiastic about that.
11:49:46 <sbp> well the GP starts soon
11:49:48 <_bjoern> I could finish my DOM compiler.
11:49:50 <sbp> I'm gonna watch that
11:49:56 <sbp> so you could watch me watching that
11:50:21 <sbp> also, imma forage for tastyfoods
11:50:25 <_bjoern> na that's too bodacious
11:51:43 <_bjoern> my DOM compiler is rad, turns your document into stringified bytecode
11:51:59 <_bjoern> then you can later run the bytecode in a vm written in javascript that recreates the dom
11:52:26 <_bjoern> it'd be a lot more awesome though if browsers weren't this buggy.
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12:21:33 <sbp> so why didn't Charlie Whiting say that he's got to give the place back?
12:21:43 <sbp> or did McLaren not ask? or simply ignore it?
12:23:43 <xover> .gc "f on f noun action"
12:23:44 <phenny> "f on f noun action": 0
12:24:02 <xover> .gc "feminine on feminine noun action"
12:24:02 <phenny> "feminine on feminine noun action": 0
12:24:11 <xover> .gc "female on female noun action"
12:24:12 <phenny> "female on female noun action": 0
12:24:23 <xover> .gc "girl on girl noun action"
12:24:24 <phenny> "girl on girl noun action": 0
12:24:38 <xover> bah
12:24:44 <xover> @Internets--
12:26:21 <sbp> check it again in a few days
12:26:25 <sbp> we make the internets groovy
12:27:40 <_bjoern> % perl swhack2sqlite.pl 2> errors.txt
12:29:15 <_bjoern> (2004-07-04.txt) skipping badly malencoded line (13:20:54 <xover> «Coined by the notorious Sean B. Palmer (the "B." will forever remain a mystery; he had his name officially changed to just "B" at his 45th birthday, and took its original expansion with him to his grave) and is often considered his greatest contribution to linguistics. …»)
12:29:22 <_bjoern> Unicode-hater
12:33:12 <_bjoern> once we had a wikisockpope
12:34:41 <sbp> ooh. what was its name?
12:35:02 <_bjoern> wikisockpope?
12:35:19 <sbp> oh. heh
12:35:42 <_bjoern> 08:31:22 <snogcheeks> oh man, too many choices in there
12:35:42 <_bjoern> 08:31:34 *** snogcheeks is now known as wikisockpope
12:35:42 <_bjoern> 08:31:39 <wikisockpope> this should do for now
12:35:56 <sbp> snogcheeks?!
12:36:26 <_bjoern> 07:48:04 *** thelsdj is now known as snogcheeks
12:36:26 <_bjoern> 07:48:43 <sbp> hahaha:
12:36:26 <_bjoern> 07:48:44 <sbp> [[[
12:36:26 <_bjoern> 07:48:44 <sbp> Another problem is that in accepting a label, particul ... ]]]
12:36:36 <sbp> ah... oh well
12:37:08 <_bjoern> He talked a lot with cuneiformsigneaa apparently.
12:39:02 <_bjoern> (My dump has 2008-04-03.txt as its latest file)
12:39:23 * nslater wibbles
12:39:35 <_bjoern> sqlite> select nick, count(*) as c from swhack group by nick order by c desc limit 100;
12:39:44 <sbp> yo nslater
12:39:59 <sbp> output pls
12:40:21 <_bjoern> sbp|303234
12:40:21 <_bjoern> Morbus|83886
12:40:21 <_bjoern> AaronSw|66440
12:40:21 <_bjoern> phenny|60123
12:40:21 <_bjoern> Arnia|54347
12:40:22 <_bjoern> crschmidt|42150
12:40:24 <_bjoern> bjoern_|40691
12:40:26 <_bjoern> jcowan|38409
12:40:28 <_bjoern> Monty|38212
12:40:28 <Monty> Kafka
12:40:30 <_bjoern> kandinski|34217
12:40:32 <_bjoern> kpreid|23840
12:40:34 <_bjoern> xover|22900
12:40:36 <_bjoern> bancus|19399
12:40:38 <_bjoern> thelsdj|17696
12:40:40 <_bjoern> nsh|17244
12:41:15 <sbp> these are line counts?
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12:41:27 <Monty> lo libby
12:41:47 <_bjoern> I would think so.
12:42:14 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(*) from swhack where nick like "%bjoern%" or nick like "bsh";
12:42:14 <_bjoern> 52633
12:42:28 <_bjoern> plausible numbers?
12:43:48 <sbp> yeah, I think so from what I remember
12:43:54 <sbp> normally I do word counts though
12:44:07 <xover> why
12:44:07 <_bjoern> nodding
12:44:08 <xover> would
12:44:10 <xover> you
12:44:11 <xover> do
12:44:12 <xover> that
12:44:13 <xover> ?
12:44:18 <_bjoern> to
12:44:18 <_bjoern> con
12:44:19 <_bjoern> fuse
12:44:20 <_bjoern> you
12:44:21 <_bjoern> ?
12:45:04 <xover> Hmm. Strip out every word that's found in a dictionary lookup, and display the remaining words count?
12:45:56 <sbp> that'd be pretty fun
12:48:46 <_bjoern> hmm, heaven's exploding, good call re lido saving.
12:50:05 <sbp> .gc regenlidomeister
12:50:07 <phenny> regenlidomeister: 0
12:59:37 <_bjoern> extra evil sound effects outside.
12:59:40 <_bjoern> xxxevil.
12:59:47 <_bjoern> .gc +xxxevil
12:59:49 <phenny> +xxxevil: 1,160
13:01:42 <_bjoern> Hmm I take it the log file format has changed over time
13:01:53 <_bjoern> initially, say, joins weren't *** messages.
13:03:44 <sbp> yeah, several times I think
13:03:53 <sbp> loggy.py hasn't changed (actually, once to fix a bug I think)
13:04:16 <nslater> one bug in five years is pretty impressive
13:04:23 <_bjoern> seems to parse nicely though, only a few lines that decode as neither utf-8 nor win1252
13:04:46 <_bjoern> fixing one bug, or finding one bug?
13:04:46 <sbp> before then, logster.pl changed quite often though I think
13:04:51 <sbp> fixed
13:05:03 <sbp> it used to do * nicknew changed to nickold
13:05:06 <sbp> which was teh wrongz
13:05:37 <sbp> chuckle, Lewis has passed Alonso twice in this race
13:05:40 <_bjoern> none of this would happen had you used rdf-only logs from the beginning.
13:05:47 * nslater balks
13:06:36 <nslater> hasn't danbri worked on IRC RDF somethingorother?
13:07:44 <_bjoern> I'm featured twice in the top 24.
13:08:05 <_bjoern> _bjoern|10520
13:08:05 <_bjoern> nslater|10179
13:08:07 <_bjoern> #24 and #25
13:08:12 <_bjoern> well
13:08:14 <_bjoern> nslater
13:08:16 <_bjoern> I suggest
13:08:22 <_bjoern> you
13:08:25 <_bjoern> try to beat me
13:08:27 <_bjoern> as long
13:08:28 <_bjoern> as
13:08:29 <_bjoern> you can
13:08:39 <nslater> are you not using words instead of lines?
13:08:54 <_bjoern> sqlite3 doesn't do word splitting
13:09:11 <nslater> whats the current query you're running?
13:09:20 <_bjoern> none
13:09:29 <nslater> what was the query you used to get the results/
13:09:41 <_bjoern> I said that above.
13:10:12 <nslater> whats the schema of swhack?
13:10:32 <_bjoern> id time type nick text (where type is 0 or 1 for actions)
13:13:37 <nslater> aha
13:14:49 <nslater> select nick, sum(length(text)) as c from swhack group by nick order by c desc limit 100;
13:16:00 <_bjoern> sbp|12651638
13:16:01 <_bjoern> phenny|4193852
13:16:01 <_bjoern> Morbus|3267556
13:16:01 <_bjoern> AaronSw|2864223
13:16:01 <_bjoern> Arnia|2861053
13:16:01 <_bjoern> jcowan|2153086
13:16:03 <_bjoern> crschmidt|1864572
13:16:05 <_bjoern> bjoern_|1823402
13:16:07 <_bjoern> Monty|1619441
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13:16:09 <_bjoern> kandinski|1340462
13:16:11 <_bjoern> xover|1238969
13:16:13 <_bjoern> kpreid|1066855
13:16:14 <Monty> Working on political, historical, psychological, anthropological subjects, on blackboard and she refers to treat people exactly what does?
13:16:15 <_bjoern> thelsdj|909838
13:16:17 <_bjoern> JibberJim|799421
13:16:19 <_bjoern> bancus|722747
13:16:21 <_bjoern> clsn|694398
13:16:23 <_bjoern> supybot|661324
13:16:25 <_bjoern> jsled|646208
13:16:27 <_bjoern> Talliesin|612163
13:16:29 <_bjoern> deltab|581638
13:16:31 <_bjoern> nsh|578017
13:16:33 <_bjoern> KragenSitaker|540708
13:16:35 <_bjoern> redmonk|539462
13:16:37 <_bjoern> MoiraA|521433
13:16:39 <_bjoern> d8uv|520418
13:16:41 <_bjoern> perigrin|500625
13:16:43 <_bjoern> _bjoern|447739
13:16:45 <_bjoern> nslater|404551
13:16:59 <sbp> 1st Place - sbp
13:17:06 <sbp> other places - all you people
13:17:11 <nslater> you could pipe that into a google graph pretty easy
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13:17:13 <Monty> bah, it's jeffarch again
13:17:21 <_bjoern> Log Faker of Sorts Award 2008.
13:17:29 <sbp> wins
13:21:04 <_bjoern> the same limited to time >= "2008-01-01 00:00:00"
13:21:06 <_bjoern> sbp|1174532
13:21:06 <_bjoern> phenny|779311
13:21:06 <_bjoern> Arnia|512728
13:21:06 <_bjoern> nslater|404551
13:21:06 <_bjoern> xover|334570
13:21:07 <_bjoern> _bjoern|215309
13:21:09 <_bjoern> clsn|202479
13:21:11 <_bjoern> nsh|149795
13:21:13 <_bjoern> Monty|144505
13:21:13 <Monty> Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
13:21:15 <_bjoern> darobin|131171
13:21:17 <_bjoern> YES MONTY.
13:21:21 <Monty> utilising beta-tested copy of Razzle sleeps with centrifugal chicaned means.
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13:27:08 <_bjoern> So what unicode aware regex should I use to find words?
13:27:21 <nslater> \w
13:27:36 <nslater> but make sure your regex library has the unicode flag set, or whatever
13:29:50 <zachb> regex!
13:33:52 <nslater> http://bytesexual.org/ephemera/swhack
13:34:03 <nslater> sbp, it seems you win by quite a margin :)
13:36:19 <sbp> yaywins
13:36:32 <_bjoern> now creating word history thingy (when was $word first used)
13:36:38 <sbp> ooh
13:38:40 <sbp> when was moughbs first used?
13:39:46 <_bjoern> never apparently
13:40:13 <sbp> a new word has been born
13:40:47 <nslater> .gc moughbs
13:40:49 <phenny> moughbs: 0
13:41:12 <sbp> (definition: pretentious man bobs)
13:41:19 <sbp> (er, pretentious man boobs)
13:41:24 <sbp> .gs * man boobs
13:41:25 <phenny> * man boobs: pointy (3), his (2), celebrity (2), beatboxin' (2), 22's (2)
13:41:32 <sbp> pointy? pointy man boobs?
13:41:46 <sbp> poimoobs
13:41:52 <_bjoern> sqlite> select time, nick, text from swhack where text like "%penis%" order by time limit 1;
13:41:52 <_bjoern> 2001-11-02 04:27:38|AaronSw|CBS Marketwatch on iPod speculation: "A digital solu
13:41:52 <_bjoern> tion for world peace, a PDA capable of curing cancer, a wireless, non-surgical b
13:41:52 <_bjoern> reast and penis enlargement device - clearly, if you can think of it, the cyber-
13:41:52 <_bjoern> masses have already posted it somewhere on the message boards."
13:42:17 <nslater> celebrity beatboxin' his pointy man boobs
13:42:28 *** sbp changed the topic to: "<nslater> celebrity beatboxin' his pointy man boobs"
13:56:19 <_bjoern> first attempt regenerated almost half the swhack logs
13:56:36 <_bjoern> now doing case insensitive comparison...
13:58:59 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(distinct nick) from swhack;
13:59:00 <_bjoern> 4853
13:59:00 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(distinct lower(nick)) from swhack;
13:59:00 <_bjoern> 4725
13:59:32 <nslater> thats a weird syntax
13:59:39 <sbp> I wonder how many distinct people we've really had
13:59:39 <deltab> and if you strip off non-letters?
13:59:43 <sbp> presumably over 500
13:59:44 <nslater> is it not usually distinct(foo)
14:00:00 <deltab> it's a modifier to count
14:00:10 <nslater> um, in what language?
14:00:13 <deltab> SQL
14:00:18 <nslater> mysql and postgresql dont do it like that
14:00:25 <deltab> MySQL does
14:00:33 <nslater> not in my experience
14:00:40 <nslater> it's count(distinct(whatever)
14:00:41 <nslater> )
14:01:10 <deltab> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/group-by-functions.html#function_count-distinct
14:01:48 <nslater> what the hell
14:01:56 <nslater> are both valid?
14:02:12 <deltab> yes, you can add ( ) around expressions
14:02:29 <nslater> weird
14:02:31 <deltab> 1+(2)
14:03:03 <zachb> SQL is fun... its so weird
14:03:27 <nslater> ν
14:03:53 <zachb> For instance, "INSERT INTO `blah` (SELECT * FROM `blah2`)"
14:03:56 <zachb> or something like that
14:04:02 <nslater> how is that weird?
14:04:08 <zachb> It just is!
14:04:11 <nslater> also, I think it's SELECT INTO
14:04:17 <_bjoern> Apparently Swhack has a Wortschatz of 263422 words.
14:04:18 <zachb> No, that's the normal way
14:04:22 <nslater> "normal"?
14:04:23 <deltab> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/sql-expressions.html#SYNTAX-AGGREGATES
14:04:34 <nslater> zachb: does "normal" mean "how you do it"? :)
14:04:44 <zachb> The accepted way of doing it ;p
14:04:50 <nslater> accepted, by whom?
14:04:55 <deltab> SELECT INTO puts values into variables
14:04:55 <nslater> you?
14:05:07 <zachb> By the general programming public
14:05:12 <nslater> [citation needed]
14:05:16 <_bjoern> Let's see what happens if we cut out number-only words...
14:05:17 <nslater> deltab: variable?
14:05:32 <zachb> I'm weird w/ my SQL. I never use JOINs
14:05:32 <Monty> jsled|646208
14:05:52 <nslater> deltab: SELECT nick INTO newtable FROM oldtable
14:06:15 <nslater> zachb: why dont you use joins?
14:07:12 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Connection2_900.jpg
14:07:26 <sbp> - The Presbyterian Family Connections
14:07:33 <nslater> looks like a logic circuit
14:08:35 <_bjoern> 246217
14:09:06 <_bjoern> I like the "NO AMERICA" in that.
14:09:21 <deltab> nslater: what supports that?
14:09:29 <nslater> SQL? :)
14:10:45 <nslater> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-selectinto.html
14:11:05 * nslater <3's postgres
14:11:32 <_bjoern> lol [2001-07-25 20:51:19] (996087079) sbp (lol)
14:11:34 <_bjoern> ROTFL [2001-09-24 02:01:56] (1001289716) sbp (<xover> ROTFL! :-))
14:11:34 <zachb> nslater: because they confuse me... WHERE's are easier
14:11:49 <zachb> _bjoern: can you do a count of my XD's?
14:11:55 <nslater> zachb: um, what? how do you do an outer left join with a where?
14:12:20 * zachb looks up what an outer left join is
14:12:23 <nslater> zachb: you can only really get away with replacing inner joins by using multiple tables and where clauses
14:12:30 <_bjoern> you mean where nick like zachb and lower text like xd?
14:13:18 <zachb> sure, w/e
14:13:18 <deltab> nslater: ah, see the compatibility section
14:13:28 <nslater> zachb: an outer left join would be "get me users and any sallaries information"
14:13:40 <nslater> zachb: an outer right join would be "get me sallaries and any user information"
14:13:41 <deltab> others support it as SELECT INTO TABLE
14:13:50 <nslater> zachb: an inner join would be "get me sallaries and user information"
14:14:00 <nslater> deltab: cool :)
14:14:02 <deltab> but the standard seems to be INSERT SELECT
14:14:06 <nslater> sure
14:14:08 <_bjoern> I have only logs predating your arrival.
14:14:37 <_bjoern> nslater: your \w suggestion sucks donkey balls.
14:14:44 <nslater> explain
14:14:52 <zachb> deltab: fine
14:14:52 <Monty> "arshavin never mind
14:15:01 <_bjoern> well it considers number-only strings words
14:15:08 <_bjoern> it considers "com" a word in example.com
14:15:18 <nslater> well, you need to work harder, dont blame me
14:15:34 <nslater> [:punct:] - perhaps
14:15:38 <_bjoern> .gc "Wenn man keine Ahnung hat einfach mal Klappe halten"
14:15:39 <phenny> "Wenn man keine Ahnung hat einfach mal Klappe halten": 2,450
14:15:41 <deltab> there's also apostrophes, hyphens, &c.
14:16:01 <_bjoern> indeed indeed.
14:16:05 <nslater> or you could just separate on \s
14:16:20 <_bjoern> That'd get us words like "["
14:16:28 <nslater> in what context?
14:17:14 <nslater> okay, seperate on \s and then discard any token which doesnt match \w+
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14:18:48 <sbp> I use this:
14:18:49 <sbp> r_word = re.compile(r"(?<!')\b[A-Za-z](?:[A-Za-z'-]*[A-Za-z])?\b")
14:18:58 <sbp> after expanding "--" to " - "
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14:19:21 <nslater> sbp: why do you use "r_" - looks like hungarian notation to me
14:19:34 <sbp> dunno, picked it up from somewhereorother
14:20:00 <_bjoern> UNICODE HATE
14:20:07 <chandler> not that I can read that bit of line-noise, but that doesn't look very unicode-saavy to me
14:20:18 <chandler> "savvy"
14:20:19 <_bjoern> the first hits on CPAN do not inspire confidence
14:20:25 <nslater> I have a hungarian notation gag reflex :p
14:20:31 <sbp> um, ascii is part of unicode
14:20:31 <nslater> you're using perl?
14:20:42 <_bjoern> Who isn't using perl.
14:20:46 <nslater> wow
14:21:01 <sbp> rather, the characters A-Za-z and - and ' are unicode characters in this context
14:21:17 <sbp> nslater: affiliations:
14:21:23 <sbp> Morbus - perl (and PHP lately)
14:21:25 <sbp> xover - perl
14:21:29 <sbp> _bjoern - perl
14:21:31 <sbp> sbp - python
14:21:35 <sbp> AaronSw - python
14:21:40 <sbp> chandler - lisp
14:21:52 <sbp> kpreid - E and haskell and...
14:22:03 <chandler> kpreid is a lisper too
14:22:03 <sbp> Arnia - category theory
14:22:11 <sbp> that's why I said "and..."
14:22:25 <nslater> sbp: that regex of yours would miss words like ñëâ - right?
14:22:31 <_bjoern> yes.
14:22:39 <sbp> Arnia doesn't program. he rearranges our views of the universe until stuff fits properly
14:22:45 <nslater> heh
14:22:52 <kpreid> C, Common Lisp, Objective-C, Java, Perl 5, E, Haskell, Python, Lua
14:23:18 <kpreid> oh and some Logo, Scheme, Self, CLIPS, Smalltalk, JavaScript, XSLT
14:23:41 <nslater> Python, Bash, PHP, Lisp (in that order)
14:23:46 <_bjoern> I'm also a HTML programmer.
14:23:50 <nslater> hahaha
14:24:13 <_bjoern> ?
14:24:23 <nslater> oh, you weren't joking?
14:24:40 <_bjoern> joking?
14:24:56 <nslater> though, I guess sbp was talking about affiliations, in which case I would only say python and bash... I am guessing we all know quite a hand full of turing complete languages :p
14:29:00 <_bjoern> Unicode [2001-07-26 20:05:27] (996170727) sbp (But I found out a while ago that Unicode has codepoints that act like the Ruby elements)
14:29:02 <_bjoern> oh?
14:29:59 <sbp> my favourite three languages are python, bash, and javascript
14:29:59 <sbp> you can do anything with those three
14:30:19 <nslater> yeah, I used to be big into javascript, not so much these days
14:30:33 <deltab> what do you think of JS2?
14:30:54 <sbp> I once strapped a melon to a yak using those three
14:30:54 <sbp> nothing they can't do
14:31:46 <deltab> ES4?
14:31:47 <mahound> javascript is so underrated
14:32:33 <nslater> what do you expect for a puny watered down version of java?
14:32:38 * nslater ducks, covers
14:33:07 * mahound throws a couchdb at nslater
14:33:20 * nslater deflects with a futon
14:33:30 <mahound> damn
14:37:44 <chandler> nslater: javascript is really no relation to java. it even has sensible closures
14:37:54 <nslater> chandler: yeah, I was joking :p
14:37:55 <chandler> unlike inferior languages like python :-)
14:37:56 * chandler ducks
14:38:15 <nslater> chandler: it's one of the most common "arguments" againts javascript, which makes me laugh
14:39:19 <chandler> really all JS needs to make me happy is optional static typing of some form, which does exist in the next ECMAScript proposal
14:39:25 <nslater> ... I'm sure there must be a name for the type of argument that immediately shows the arguer to be ignorant of the topic
14:39:32 <nslater> also, what's wrong with python's closures?
14:39:35 <chandler> "specious"?
14:39:56 <nslater> yeah, good word
14:40:06 <chandler> (let ((x 1)) (lambda () (incf x))) -> no work in python
14:40:11 <chandler> need a wrapper object around x
14:40:38 <nslater> hmm, what would that be in python syntax?
14:40:45 <chandler> no idea, I don't know python
14:40:51 <chandler> :-)
14:40:57 <nslater> no wonder it doesnt work in python then ;)
14:41:03 <nslater> chandler: http://damienkatz.net/2008/06/epiphany.html
14:41:44 <nslater> 'Static typing is like giving a drunk a bunch of breath mints and saying "Don't drive drunk. But if you must, use these breath mints in case you get pulled over."'
14:43:06 <chandler> it's not for safety that I want static typing in JS
14:43:13 <chandler> it's for efficiency and readability
14:43:34 <chandler> also, it doesn't need to be pure static. I'd really like it to be just a named protocol of some kind
14:44:00 <nslater> is javascript strong dynamic? it's been a while
14:44:17 <chandler> JS is wackily dynamic
14:44:21 <nslater> haha
14:44:43 <nslater> ive never worked in a * static language modulo university, and im pretty happy about that
14:44:59 <chandler> to the degree that it's difficult to do the kind of type inference that Common Lisp and Scheme compilers can do
14:45:35 <nslater> do you do lisp for a living?
14:45:55 <chandler> used to. doing something slightly different now
14:46:12 <nslater> k, was just wondering what the uk job market for lispers is like
14:46:25 <nslater> well, s/uk//
14:47:09 <_bjoern> grmgmrgmrmgh [2001-11-01 03:33:02] (1004581982) sbp (grmgmrgmrmgh)
14:47:09 <_bjoern> grmgmrh [2001-11-01 02:18:26] (1004577506) sbp (grmgmrh)
14:47:09 <_bjoern> Grmgpmrgmprh [2002-05-06 19:28:47] (1020706127) sbp (Grmgpmrgmprh)
14:47:09 <_bjoern> grmgprgmgrph [2001-09-28 19:37:59] (1001698679) sbp (grmgprgmgrph http://infomesh.net/xhs/)
14:47:09 <_bjoern> Grmgprmgpmpgmh [2002-05-08 01:00:06] (1020812406) sbp (Grmgprmgpmpgmh)
14:47:10 <_bjoern> grmgrpmgh [2007-07-25 20:36:06] (1185388566) sbp (grmgrpmgh)
14:47:12 <_bjoern> Grmgrpmgprmgpmgh [2002-04-01 23:41:07] (1017697267) sbp (Grmgrpmgprmgpmgh)
14:47:14 <_bjoern> grmpgh [2007-08-03 13:38:40] (1186141120) sbp (grmpgh)
14:47:16 <_bjoern> grmph [2001-09-09 21:55:57] (1000065357) sbp (grmph, you can take that "A" out of my name)
14:47:18 <_bjoern> grmrgmrgh [2001-09-26 20:11:45] (1001527905) sbp (what? I told it to use 11:00:00 grmrgmrgh)
14:49:32 <chandler> nslater: http://lispjobs.wordpress.com/
14:49:36 <deltab> nslater: x = 1; def incx(): nonlocal x; x += 1
14:49:39 <_bjoern> youtube [2006-01-28 01:45:23] (1138409123) BigJibby (http://www.youtube.com/w/Proper-Breast-Touching-Technique?v=7ZqHTIwmXDo)
14:49:57 <_bjoern> "This video has been removed by the user."
14:50:42 <chandler> nslater: I'd expect that a fluent CL or Scheme programmer could find a number of opportunities to use their tool of choice in many positions
14:50:58 <nslater> sweet
14:51:52 * _bjoern thinks fluent scheme programmers would predominantly use a rogue of choice.
14:52:42 <nslater> .ety mochi-
14:52:43 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "mochi-". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=mochi-
14:52:45 <nslater> .ety moch-
14:52:46 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "moch-". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=moch-
14:52:50 <chandler> .ety mocha
14:52:51 <phenny> "1733, from Mocha, Red Sea port of Yemen, from which coffee was exported." - http://etymonline.com/?term=mocha
14:53:10 <nslater> trying to work out how mochimedia.com was named :)
14:55:56 <nslater> .g seaside lisp
14:55:57 <phenny> nslater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaside_(software)
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15:02:21 <sbp> choxelles at my grpmgprmgrhs
15:02:42 <sbp> occasionally I have been able to replicate sequences impromptu
15:06:15 <_bjoern> now added counts, ala
15:06:17 <_bjoern> youtube (1138409123) BigJibby (1006 times)
15:07:51 <nslater> youtube was mentioned 1138409123 times?
15:07:59 <_bjoern> Yes.
15:08:08 <nslater> um
15:08:25 <nslater> 1 billion times!?!?
15:08:27 <_bjoern> Swhack has been around for a looong time.
15:08:50 <_bjoern> SHITRUDE (1189446054) jsled (542 times)
15:08:59 <nslater> that's one "youtube" per 20 seconds for the last five years
15:09:09 <mahound> how old is youtube?
15:09:09 <nslater> nah, something must be wrong
15:09:13 <deltab> youtube youtube! youtube?
15:09:24 <_bjoern> see, three times in no time at all
15:09:27 <deltab> youtube youtube.
15:09:35 <nslater> there have been 22 billion seconds since five years ago
15:09:52 <nslater> but 1189 billion shitrudes?
15:09:57 <_bjoern> .c seconds in five years
15:09:58 <phenny> five years = 157 784 630 seconds
15:10:04 <nslater> oh
15:10:21 <nslater> thats wrong
15:10:35 <nslater> nope
15:10:37 <nslater> ... hehe
15:10:53 <nslater> so, 157 billion seconds but 1189 shitrudes?
15:11:10 <_bjoern> s/b/m/
15:11:25 <nslater> .c 1189 / 157
15:11:25 <phenny> 1 189 / 157 = 7.57324841
15:11:45 <nslater> okay, im tired :) still - that's 7 and a half shitrudes per second for the last five years
15:12:00 <_bjoern> you do realize that the count is at the end where it says TIMES, right?
15:12:06 <_bjoern> and the long number is a timestamp?
15:12:17 <nslater> no
15:14:16 <deltab> ‹nslater› youtube was mentioned 1138409123 times?
15:14:16 <deltab> ‹_bjoern› Yes.
15:15:05 <mahound> someone's tired
15:16:12 <_bjoern> .gc anticontrary
15:16:13 <phenny> anticontrary: 13
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15:19:24 <sbp> .gcs "iambic pentameter" "iambic heptameter"
15:19:25 <phenny> "iambic pentameter" (689,000), "iambic heptameter" (1,770)
15:19:46 <_bjoern> dogfuck (1198412137) xover (1 times)
15:19:47 <_bjoern> dogfuckers (1198410686) sbp (1 times)
15:19:47 <_bjoern> dogfuckery (1198412175) sbp (1 times)
15:19:47 <_bjoern> dogfucking (1198410704) sbp (2 times)
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15:20:23 <sbp> what about dogfucks, dogfucked, and dogfuckings?
15:20:41 <_bjoern> 1 times each, once you make a new logbundle.
15:20:50 <sbp> (((㋡)))
15:21:45 <_bjoern> lisppaste2: url?
15:21:46 <lisppaste2> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/swhack and enter your paste.
15:21:58 <lisppaste2> _bjoern pasted "sbp-words" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/62659
15:22:34 <sbp> SBPXKCDZOMGFCK (1204565861) bjoern_ (5 times)
15:22:44 <sbp> loeaols
15:24:35 <nslater> who runs lisppaste2?
15:24:43 <sbp> chandler
15:24:53 <nslater> I am interested in the "context in IRC logs" link which links through to ircbrowse, which is dead
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15:26:04 <nslater> also, http://paste.lisp.org/email messes up on my machine
15:26:49 <sbp> works for me. perrhaps you need a better machine
15:26:53 <nslater> hahaha
15:27:02 <sbp> purrhaps you need a yiffmachine
15:27:13 <nslater> well, the link from swhack breaks, i get a white page
15:27:26 <nslater> the front page of that site loads, after about 30 seconds
15:27:38 <nslater> i clicked on a link on the front page about a minute ago and it's still loading
15:28:10 <nslater> wowh, it loaded, there are no anchors for each thing said :(
15:28:52 <lisppaste2> _bjoern pasted "top #100 words" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/62660
15:29:09 <nslater> _bjoern: I have a text file of stopwords, if you like?
15:29:22 <nslater> should make that list a little more interesting, anyway
15:29:33 <_bjoern> not needed
15:29:38 <nslater> sorry what?
15:30:02 <_bjoern> a text file of stopwords is not needed
15:30:30 <nslater> well, I was just thinking it might bring some more interesting words up in that list
15:30:35 <sbp> "t" is one of the most frequently used words?
15:30:42 <sbp> see, if you'd used my word regexp that wouldn't have happened
15:30:48 <nslater> anyway, in case you change your mind: http://bytesexual.org/ephemera/stop
15:31:29 <_bjoern> 53% of the unique words have been used only once.
15:32:05 <sbp> nslater: your stoplist is weedier than an anorexic ballet dancer on a mediaeval superrack
15:32:19 <nslater> yeah, it's the just one I used for plum, YMMV
15:32:27 <sbp> _bjoern: how are they unique if they've been used more than once?
15:32:37 <sbp> also, mediæval
15:32:40 <nslater> heh
15:33:14 <_bjoern> they are unique among their peers.
15:33:31 <_bjoern> You are ALL individuals!
15:33:38 <sbp> nu
15:34:17 <_bjoern> insane 996156354 AaronSw 662
15:34:18 <_bjoern> ascii 999817371 AaronSw 662
15:34:18 <_bjoern> answers 996423882 sbp 662
15:34:18 <_bjoern> XSLT 996094516 sbp 662
15:34:18 <_bjoern> Schema 996148859 sbp 662
15:34:18 <_bjoern> Cross 1000598295 sbp 662
15:34:18 <sbp> .gc trolldongs
15:34:19 <phenny> trolldongs: 0
15:34:37 <_bjoern> You are just trying to level up your stats
15:34:43 <sbp> mmm... stats
15:34:54 <sbp> trolldongs is a brilliant word
15:34:59 <sbp> can't believe nobody's used it before
15:35:10 <sbp> "that camel bought some trolldongs at the magic market"
15:35:23 <sbp> "whose hoover is spewing out trolldongs into Mr. Blair's face?"
15:35:39 <sbp> "what kind of trolldongs would reverse engineer a Sputnik?"
15:35:47 <sbp> example uses
15:35:52 <mahound> brilliant
15:36:04 <mahound> submission to OED encouraged
15:36:13 <sbp> be my guest
15:36:26 <sbp> you need two (or was it three?) printed sources though
15:36:35 <sbp> so we'll have to make a few editions of Swhack: The IRC Logs
15:36:41 <nslater> ha
15:36:51 <_bjoern> western 999999921 sbp 186
15:36:52 <_bjoern> printf 999999971 AaronSw 104
15:36:55 <nslater> I wonder if that will ever change with the advent of the interwebs
15:37:01 <_bjoern> miss 1000000184 sbp 672
15:37:05 <sbp> yeah
15:37:13 <nslater> ... there are plenty of sources which will never make it to print these days
15:37:19 <_bjoern> wourds around the timestamp digit+
15:37:23 <sbp> me and AaronSw bagsied all the cool words
15:37:33 <nslater> oh man, bagsied
15:37:46 * sbp bagsies bagsied
15:37:58 <nslater> uh uh, can't do that
15:38:06 <sbp> too late, already did
15:38:14 <nslater> padlock?
15:38:20 <sbp> padlock gotta have been used
15:38:20 <_bjoern> GNU magix for "extract nth field in tab separated input"?
15:38:35 <deltab> cut -f n
15:38:39 <sbp> 5 Sep 2007 ... 07:12:12 <Arnia> 'you put it in an briefcase and padlock it with your ...
15:38:41 <nslater> awk '{print $1}'
15:38:55 <deltab> yeah, awk
15:39:48 <_bjoern> 50620 sbp
15:39:49 <_bjoern> 22746 phenny
15:39:49 <_bjoern> 18949 AaronSw
15:39:49 <_bjoern> 14328 Morbus
15:39:49 <_bjoern> 8355 jcowan
15:39:49 <_bjoern> 6715 kandinski
15:39:51 <_bjoern> 6056 bjoern_
15:39:53 <_bjoern> 5937 Arnia
15:39:55 <_bjoern> 4368 xover
15:39:57 <_bjoern> 3382 crschmidt
15:40:00 <_bjoern> (nuwords per nick)
15:40:09 <nslater> sbp: you didnt use to say padlock to make sure someone couldnt reverse something when you werre a kid? like, "jinx. padlock" :)
15:41:25 <selggig> crazy
15:41:26 <sbp> no
15:41:29 <sbp> yo selggig!
15:41:31 <nslater> wow
15:41:37 <selggig> afternoons
15:41:50 <nslater> well, there you have it, anything followed by "padlock" cant be reversed
15:41:55 <nslater> rulz r rulz
15:42:10 <_bjoern> wantz: nuwords per words total per nick
15:42:11 <nslater> unless you come up with something like "padlock breaker"
15:42:12 <sbp> incidentally, there are only something like 30,000 unique words in Joyce, and fewer in Shakespeare
15:42:17 * selggig finds a key for the padlock
15:42:33 <nslater> sbp: yeah, but many of those words will be regular things like "the" - just the first time it's mentioned, right?
15:42:40 <sbp> nslater: we said something like "no come backs"
15:42:43 <nslater> interesting to filter out the list against a dictionary
15:42:54 <nslater> ah
15:43:01 <sbp> presumably the common words will also be most commonly shared
15:43:40 <selggig> did they use common words that aren't anymore?
15:43:55 <sbp> Shakespeare did; Joyce much less so
15:44:06 <sbp> Joyce used various Irishisms
15:44:18 <selggig> are they from a similar time?
15:44:23 <sbp> but language has changed so much from Shakespeare to now
15:44:28 <sbp> nope. Shakespeare was like 1600 or so
15:44:36 <sbp> Joyce was like 1930 or so
15:44:40 <selggig> oh lol
15:44:54 <nslater> someone should do a film adaptation of finnegans wake
15:44:59 <sbp> I use those two as examples because they're generally thought of as having the largest vocabularies of any writers
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15:48:09 <_bjoern> .swhack vodka_quaffing_german
15:48:10 <phenny> _bjoern: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
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15:49:02 <sbp> is there a synonym for sub-?
15:49:11 <sbp> i.e. meaning some-part-of
15:49:17 <deltab> hypo
15:49:31 <_bjoern> Once there was
15:49:32 <_bjoern> .thesaurus sub
15:49:33 <phenny> _bjoern: .thesaurus hasn't been ported to my new codebase yet
15:49:42 <mahound> fail
15:49:56 <deltab> .dict hyponym
15:49:56 <Monty> înteresting
15:49:56 <phenny> hyponym - 1. word with narrower meaning
15:50:11 <sbp> deltab: hmm, thanks. înteresting
15:50:25 <nslater> heh
15:50:33 <_bjoern> hyponym 1129132133 jcowan 8
15:50:35 <sbp> in colour field terminology, they use macro and micro
15:50:49 <nslater> _bjoern: can you look up "freedom" pls
15:50:58 <sbp> so for example if they have a colour name in some language which denotes both green and yellow as we talk about them, they call that a macrocolour
15:51:03 <_bjoern> freedom 1001243899 AaronSw 456
15:51:13 <nslater> how about stallman?
15:51:28 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Stallmann"?
15:51:29 <phenny> _bjoern: "Stallmann" (de to en, translate.google.com)
15:51:32 <_bjoern> phenny, de "Stall mann"?
15:51:34 <phenny> _bjoern: "Stallmann" (de to en, translate.google.com)
15:51:38 <_bjoern> u so sux
15:51:43 <selggig> one name that means green and yellow?
15:51:52 <_bjoern> Stallman 1005614420 AaronSw 183
15:52:08 <_bjoern> Stallmann 1083771672 xover 1
15:52:12 <sbp> nslater: we have a bash.org quote that mentions Stallman, in fact!
15:52:17 <sbp> selggig: yeah, just one word for both colours
15:52:20 <nslater> uri? :)
15:52:34 <nslater> _bjoern: tallman?
15:52:37 <sbp> selggig: about a thousand years ago, English had no word for orange or pink, so "red" meant orange and pink too often
15:52:42 <sbp> nslater: can't, bash.org isn't responding
15:52:46 <nslater> bah
15:52:46 <_bjoern> tallman 1202133581 nslater 1
15:52:47 <sbp> I tried before telling you
15:52:54 <selggig> did it mean red at the same time?
15:52:59 <sbp> yups
15:53:08 <selggig> so all shades of
15:53:18 <nslater> orange isnt really a shade
15:53:25 <sbp> also, a thousand years ago brightness was just as important as hue
15:53:27 <nslater> in so much as green isnt really a shade of blue
15:53:28 <selggig> it's not?
15:53:40 <nslater> sbp: thats interesting!
15:53:43 <sbp> so you'd have a lot of words that had as much description of brightness as they did of colour
15:53:48 <selggig> you've never seen a blueish green?
15:53:52 <selggig> or a greenish blue?
15:53:56 <nslater> sure, i have
15:53:57 <deltab> QDB 6486: <wmf> AaronSw: what did I tell you about Stallman? <AaronSw> not to have sex with him?
15:54:00 <sbp> turquoise, cyan, aqua
15:54:03 <sbp> deltab: ah, thanks!
15:54:05 <nslater> heh
15:54:06 <selggig> mint
15:54:11 <sbp> mmm... mint
15:54:13 <nslater> mint is green
15:54:21 <selggig> not always
15:54:23 <sbp> so, at this point there's another distinction
15:54:29 <sbp> between BCTs and secondary colours
15:54:36 <nslater> bct?
15:54:44 <sbp> a BCT (Basic Colour Term) is a colour which is considered to be primitive in the language
15:54:58 <_bjoern> .wik worldofyak
15:55:00 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "worldofyak".
15:55:02 <_bjoern> .g worldofyak
15:55:03 <phenny> _bjoern: http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/archive/v02.n466
15:55:12 <deltab> orange and pink are both names of plants
15:55:19 <nslater> .wik pink plant
15:55:19 <Monty> joking?
15:55:21 <phenny> "This a list of heirloom tomato cultivars." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heirloom_tomato_cultivars
15:55:23 <sbp> a BCT can't have a broader colour word covering it too
15:55:27 <nslater> .wik orange plant
15:55:28 <phenny> "The Osage orange (sometimes hyphenated) or Osage apple or simply Osage (Maclura pomifera) is an ornamental plant in the mulberry family Moraceae." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage-orange
15:55:34 <sbp> so for example scarlet is more strictly defined than red, so scarlet can't be a BCT
15:55:43 <nslater> yeah
15:55:45 <sbp> it can't occur only in certain contexts, either
15:55:54 <sbp> so for example blonde isn't considered a BCT, because it can only apply to hair
15:55:58 <deltab> Gardener's World a week or two ago had a number of different colours of pink
15:56:00 <nslater> hmm
15:56:13 <selggig> blonde is only for hair?
15:56:14 <deltab> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianthus
15:56:21 <sbp> so when you count BCTs, languages normally have like between five and a dozen or something
15:56:31 <sbp> I think there's one language which only has two...
15:56:48 <sbp> they tested the speakers of this particular language, with only two BCTs, against some American speakers
15:56:51 <nslater> blue, yellow, red, green, orange, purple, black, white?
15:56:56 <nslater> how many does english have?
15:57:05 <sbp> because they wondered whether having only two colour terms meant that they wouldn't be able to remember colours as well
15:57:10 <sbp> but actually they did slightly better, IIRC
15:57:13 <_bjoern> Ha!
15:57:13 <_bjoern> Dahut 1096031393 bjoern_ 1733
15:57:14 <sbp> nslater: can't remember
15:57:36 <deltab> “The colour pink may be named after the flower. The origin of the flower name 'pink' may come from the frilled edge of the flowers: the verb "pink" dates from the 14th century and means "to decorate with a perforated or punched pattern" (maybe from German "pinken" = to peck). Source: Collins Dictionary. The verb sense is also used in the name of pinking shears.”
15:57:43 <nslater> man, I wish I could invent a new colour
15:57:43 <sbp> nslater: eleven
15:57:46 <sbp> "black, blue, brown, green, grey, orange, pink, purple, red, yellow, white"
15:58:02 <nslater> I would class pink as red, non?
15:58:09 <sbp> deltab: pink is interesting because it's one of only two of our BCTs which are a hue + an intensity
15:58:19 <sbp> yeah, it's light red with a low chroma
15:58:23 <_bjoern> oh good times
15:58:23 <_bjoern> subresource 1156511113 bjoern_ 31
15:58:45 <nslater> .wik chroma
15:58:45 <phenny> "The difference from gray at a given hue and lightness in the Munsell color system" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma
15:58:55 <nslater> yeah
16:00:05 <sbp> or something like that. I forget specifics
16:00:16 <sbp> brown is the other one, incidentally
16:00:42 <sbp> it's a not very bright orange/yellow
16:01:18 <sbp> I got interested in this because someone said that a thousand years ago English had no word for blue
16:01:23 <sbp> which is, no basic colour term for blue
16:01:30 <sbp> then I found out that that got debunked
16:01:31 <nslater> I wonder what it would be like to be able to see infrared and ultraviolet
16:01:41 <sbp> but the other day I read that apparently it's being considered still
16:01:58 <sbp> that there does indeed appear to have been no BCT in Old English for blue
16:02:11 <deltab> selggig: and sometimes only females: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond
16:02:12 <sbp> which is sort of mind boggling
16:02:16 <nslater> I doubt it was a very common colour, sbp
16:02:26 <nslater> blue is, or rather was, VERY expensive to die
16:02:34 <sbp> nslater: yeah. only the sky and sea and eyes and... :-)
16:02:47 <nslater> yeah, what else apart from bluebells?
16:02:55 <nslater> not exactly things you need to talk about the colour of very often
16:02:58 <sbp> well they did have blue dyes and blue glasses
16:03:01 <nslater> "oh look, the sky is still blue today"
16:03:11 <sbp> Frankish jewellery used blue often and was in fashion at the time
16:03:12 <deltab> red sky at night...
16:03:25 <deltab> or whatever it is
16:03:30 <sbp> Shepherd's delight!
16:03:33 <sbp> red sky in the morning...
16:03:34 <deltab> yeah
16:03:38 <sbp> Shepherd's warning
16:03:50 <nslater> i am right in thinking that at the time, blue came from cochineal, which is expensive?
16:03:53 <selggig> no blue, would they have used various purple names for blue?
16:04:04 <nslater> there must have been a reason why it wasn't a required word
16:04:23 <sbp> selggig: depends what they were doing. they'd often use a blue-gray word for the sea, and if they wanted to be really clear they could say "coloured as the sky"
16:04:32 <selggig> I though cochineal made red, nslater
16:04:38 <sbp> yeah
16:04:39 <nslater> oh
16:04:42 <nslater> k, what makes blue?
16:04:49 <deltab> just no single word for every kind of blue
16:04:53 <selggig> anil?
16:05:16 <nslater> woah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cochinel_Zapotec_nests.jpg
16:05:22 <nslater> cochineal nests
16:05:24 <selggig> woad
16:05:27 <nslater> look like little hand woven baskets
16:05:54 * sbp kicks Firefox, which is barfing all over everything again
16:06:18 <nslater> hahaha
16:06:28 <nslater> that's why, those ARE little hand woven baskets
16:06:36 <selggig> yeah
16:06:40 <selggig> see the hanging wires?
16:06:58 <nslater> oh mang, so disapointed
16:07:05 <selggig> peek inside
16:07:10 <selggig> it's still neat looking
16:07:10 <Monty> Does this backs me too much
16:07:20 <deltab> “There are two methods of farming cochineal: traditional and controlled. Cochineals are farmed in the traditional method by planting infected cactus pads or infecting existing cacti with cochineals and harvesting the insects by hand. The controlled method uses small baskets called Zapotec nests placed on host cacti.”
16:07:29 <mahound> nslater: yeah, just figured that out now too
16:07:40 <nslater> so anyway, what makes blue?
16:07:47 <selggig> woad will
16:08:16 <deltab> light having a spectrum dominated by energy with a wavelength of roughly 440–490 nm
16:08:55 <nslater> ho ho
16:08:57 <deltab> from the Old Norse word for 460 nm
16:09:17 <sbp> Russian splits blue into two halves
16:09:33 <sbp> goluboj and sinij
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16:09:57 <Monty> But what does darobin have to do with the price of fish?
16:10:26 <selggig> what do those mean, sbp?
16:10:56 <jeffarch> wasn't indigo the first blue dye?
16:10:57 <sbp> light blue and dark blue respectively, I think
16:11:04 <jeffarch> "blue"
16:11:15 <sbp> jeffarch: or lapis lazuli?
16:11:41 <deltab> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinguishing_blue_from_green_in_language
16:12:02 <sbp> oohthx
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16:12:58 <selggig> indigo dyes a darker blue than woad
16:13:02 <sbp> “it traditionally treats light blue (голубой, goluboy) as a separate color independent from plain or dark blue (синий, siniy)”
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16:24:17 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's cskaterun!
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16:31:32 <_bjoern> Monty: ping
16:31:35 <Monty> I reckon Kinopio + ISP = operating-systems, apparently.
16:31:55 <_bjoern> MONTY'S RECKONING
16:31:55 <Monty> nope.
16:32:01 <_bjoern> Monty: ?
16:32:02 <Monty> god this timestamp.
16:35:51 <nslater> sbp, whats the name of that rule about people being wrong again please?
16:35:56 <nslater> this is the last time I will ever ask
16:35:59 <sbp> Ginsparg's Law
16:36:00 <nslater> ginspargs or something
16:36:17 <nslater> right, i am going to give it a uri that i can refer to
16:37:05 <_bjoern> .g Ginsparg's Law
16:37:07 <phenny> _bjoern: http://swhack.com/logs/2008-05-13
16:37:08 <_bjoern> not good enough?
16:37:08 <sbp> .wik Ginsparg's Law
16:37:13 <phenny> "Lawrence Lessig is a professor of law at Stanford University, founder of the Creative Commons, and board member of the Free Software Foundation." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-06-12/Wikimania_series
16:37:18 <nslater> no, not good enough
16:37:31 <sbp> http://ginspargslaw.com/
16:37:34 <_bjoern> 8 5 13, 8+5 = 13, totally easy
16:37:42 <sbp> yeah
16:37:56 <sbp> come on nslater, mnemonicise that fooberry!
16:38:02 <nslater> this is mostly for MY memory of it, not some ivory tower RDF exercise
16:40:00 <nslater> sbp: can you reformulate the law into a pithy sentence please?
16:40:08 <_bjoern> memorizing uris is illegal anyway
16:40:10 <nslater> the phrase "hardly a revelation" seem particularly good
16:41:04 <sbp> “Ginsparg's Law encapsulates the rule that people being wrong is hardly a revelation.”
16:41:32 * Arnia likes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors
16:41:45 <sbp> is chocomunge on it?
16:42:08 <sbp> “Squant, a fourth primary color publicized by experimental band Negativland in 1993.”
16:42:28 <_bjoern> colors are for wussies.
16:42:41 <sbp> “which was also the only primary color to have its own unique scent”
16:42:54 <selggig> orange doesn't have a scent?
16:43:09 <_bjoern> not a unique one.
16:43:36 <Morbus> .c 29036/1167643 * 100
16:43:37 <phenny> (29 036 / 1 167 643) * 100 = 2.48671897
16:43:38 * Morbus wanders afk.
16:44:34 <nslater> fwiw http://bytesexual.org/ginsparg
16:44:49 <nslater> at least now I'll have a way to stop bugging sbp about 6 times daily
16:44:57 <selggig> lol
16:47:04 <nslater> I now have a drop in URI qua comment for any annoying blog
16:47:24 <selggig> where did this law come from?
16:47:34 <nslater> see that page ^^
16:48:41 <selggig> mmm
16:49:34 <sbp> meditating on Ginsparg's Law is the antidote to http://xkcd.com/386/
16:49:43 <sbp> nslater: might wanna add that
16:49:51 <nslater> sure, one second
16:50:16 <deltab> http://www.badscience.net/?p=518 — pink and blue, boys and girls
16:52:36 <sbp> “one more scrape, there might be a wall” - Phil Harding's law of excavation
16:52:52 <sbp> deltab: ooh, I was talking to tav about this
16:52:58 <sbp> we tried to find out if it was really true
16:53:37 <sbp> er, specifically that pink used to be for boys and blue for girls, at one point
16:54:20 <_bjoern> I now have a table swhackwords(id, line foreign key, word) if anyone has good queries...
16:55:59 <_bjoern> I should probably read up on creating indices with sqlite3...
16:56:31 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(distinct word) from swhack, swhackwords where swhack.nick like "bsh" and swhack.id = swhackwords.line;
16:56:31 <_bjoern> 2202
16:57:09 <nslater> sbp: added
16:57:16 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(distinct word) from swhack, swhackwords where swhack.nick like "%bjoern%" and swhack.id = swhackwords.line;
16:57:17 <_bjoern> 35017
16:58:37 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(distinct word) from swhack, swhackwords where swhack.nick like "%sbp%" and swhack.id = swhackwords.line;
16:58:37 <_bjoern> 103192
16:59:01 <nslater> has anyone seen http://universaleditbutton.org/Universal_Edit_Button yet
16:59:09 <nslater> comentry from pilgrim http://diveintomark.org/archives/2008/06/21/minimalism
16:59:50 <nslater> I personallly find it hilarious that they need a consortium, wiki, mailing lists and blogs to get this working
17:00:14 <nslater> I mean, really, we're talking about a link @rel value here, it's not rocket science kids
17:00:15 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(word) from swhack, swhackwords where swhack.nick like "%sbp%" and swhack.id = swhackwords.line;
17:00:15 <_bjoern> 2326895
17:02:11 <_bjoern> sqlite> select count(word) from swhack, swhackwords where swhack.nick like "%bjoern%" and swhack.id = swhackwords.line;
17:02:11 <_bjoern> 390183
17:02:51 <nslater> sbp: have you seen this: http://webtypography.net/toc/
17:03:11 <sbp> yes, Morbus showed me it
17:03:18 <nslater> what do you think?
17:03:26 <sbp> the first thing that we both did upon viewing it was Command-+
17:03:33 <nslater> ha
17:03:43 <nslater> yeah, i would too if i was about to read it :)
17:04:22 <sbp> nslater: s/Mediating/Meditating/
17:04:28 <nslater> lol
17:04:40 <nslater> fixed
17:04:54 <sbp> kthx
17:04:56 <nslater> oh man, I know the party line here is pilgrimhate, but, but...
17:04:59 <sbp> .gc bogus-moonsoldier
17:05:00 <phenny> bogus-moonsoldier: 0
17:05:03 <nslater> "It is optimized for exactly one use case: every now and then I get in the mood to read my old writing, and this page lets me skim my entire body of writing and reminisce efficiently. If you like it too, that’s nice, but I don’t care about your opinion nearly as much as you might think."
17:05:11 <_bjoern> Monty is #13 among my top words.
17:05:12 <Monty> people cooking socks
17:05:16 <nslater> hawt
17:05:57 <nslater> how cool is this as an idea: http://
