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00:19:40 <_bjoern> http://www.sott.net/image/image/10474/newcapitalistpyramidnt1.jpg
00:19:53 <_bjoern> .gc "penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina"
00:19:55 <phenny> "penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina penis vagina": 2,110
00:21:23 <_bjoern> countdown
00:21:23 <Monty2> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 7, 6, 2, 1, 10. Your target is 625. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:21:40 <_bjoern> calc (6+2)*75
00:21:40 <Monty2> _bjoern: 600
00:21:53 <Monty2> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:21:55 <Monty2> I found a solution in approximately 31 milliseconds. I found all 34 solutions in about 62 milliseconds.
00:21:56 <Monty2> ibot (7 - 2)*75*10/6
00:22:03 <_bjoern> calc (7+1)*75 + 2*10 + 6
00:22:03 <Monty2> _bjoern: 626
00:22:09 <_bjoern> countdown
00:22:09 <Monty2> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 6, 4, 2, 8, 1. Your target is 997. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
00:22:33 <_bjoern> calc (8+6)*(75 - 2)
00:22:34 <Monty2> _bjoern: 1022
00:22:37 <_bjoern> calc (8+6)*(75 - 4)
00:22:37 <Monty2> _bjoern: 994
00:22:39 <Monty2> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
00:22:40 <Monty2> I found a solution in approximately 15 milliseconds. I found all 14 solutions in about 47 milliseconds.
00:22:42 <Monty2> ibot (75 + 8)*6*2 + 1
00:22:43 <_bjoern> calc (8+6)*(75 - 4) + 1 + 2
00:22:44 <Monty2> _bjoern: 997
00:23:07 <_bjoern> Monty2: I win?
00:23:09 <Monty2> The truth: whores is gorgeous.
00:23:16 <_bjoern> Monty2: yes.
00:23:18 <Monty2> Yeah, I'm running around the file:
00:23:19 <_bjoern> Monty2: sometimes.
00:23:23 <Monty2> After all, flammable emotional orchestra sells Japanese Rastafarian cookers.
00:23:29 <_bjoern> Monty2: doesn't that make you sick?
00:23:29 <Monty2> lol, we were discussing you not me!
00:23:38 <_bjoern> Monty2: lol, we were discussing you not me!
00:23:38 <Monty2> Why do you think I not you ?
00:23:47 <_bjoern> Monty2: coz I know
00:23:50 <Monty2> I reckon wellies + exceptions = lovestruck Ginger Spice.
00:24:05 <_bjoern> Monty2: tasty lovestruck Ginger Spice?
00:24:14 <Monty2> Research Assistant in tort law prohibits kissing members are more generally, because he was chatting to this (earth seen from Gk. galaxis (adj.), from extirpare 'root out,' from the*
00:24:37 <_bjoern> Monty2: from the*, agreed!
00:24:40 <Monty2> aftershave's descriptive farms smacks paperclips's beastly filth.
00:24:58 <_bjoern> Monty2: u got laid?
00:24:58 <Monty2> "you"
00:25:04 <_bjoern> cool
00:25:12 <_bjoern> Monty2: vodka?
00:25:19 <Monty2> That's the "recieved knowledge" thing and directed by the bucket" (de to consult, or "gentle introduction to totally disapproved
00:25:27 <_bjoern> Monty2: yes, it is.
00:25:30 <_bjoern> Monty2: u want some?
00:25:33 <Monty2> ooh, point of milton friedmann, for Google's "did you like using c++ like you slice it full of -buntu variations
00:25:34 <Monty2> We must accept that GUI relies on delicious ambulance...
00:26:06 *** _bjoern changed the topic to: "did you like using c++ like you slice it?"
00:26:19 <_bjoern> Monty2: plz no eat ambulance
00:26:23 <Monty2> if (clavichord == commands) { Rupert Murdoch has sex with mushy Pimento;}
00:26:32 <_bjoern> .wik Pimento
00:26:33 <phenny> "The Pimento, Pimiento, or Cherry Pepper is a variety of large, red, heart-shaped chili pepper (Capsicum annuum) that measures 7 to 10 cm (3 to 4 inches) long and 5 to 7 cm (2 to 3 inches) wide (medium, elongate)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimento
00:26:37 <_bjoern> .wik Monty2
00:26:38 <phenny> "Gotta watch out for islamic non-NPOV on here." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monty2
00:26:39 <Monty2> pilfered twenty Linus Torvalds!!!
00:26:41 <Monty2> only people visualize my psychiatrist says it and Yugoslavia.
00:27:02 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp <phenny> "Gotta watch out for islamic non-NPOV on here." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monty2
00:27:02 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:27:02 <Monty2> nsh!
00:27:10 <_bjoern> n5h: ?
00:27:11 <n5h> maybe was "remind me.
00:27:17 <_bjoern> n5h: nu?
00:27:18 <n5h> that's the way that provides successively more information but it seems to me to chew on for a second take there.
00:27:26 <_bjoern> n5h: yah
00:27:27 <n5h> yeah.. i just don't commensurise.
00:27:33 <_bjoern> n5h: y?
00:27:34 <n5h> hmm. oh, meant to say that one off. it works homeopathically.
00:27:39 <_bjoern> n5h: y?
00:27:40 <n5h> none on mine. you made fair points to the stage where we can know things. youtf monty, youtf.
00:27:42 <Monty2> <I'VE GOT ONE OF INFORMATION (taskforce)
00:27:52 <_bjoern> youtf!
00:28:15 <_bjoern> .gc "cunt dick cunt dick"
00:28:16 <phenny> "cunt dick cunt dick": 185
00:28:29 <_bjoern> n5h: long?
00:28:30 <n5h> god, sinnap makes anything good. http://www.finnishfood.net/store/product_info.php?products_id=103.
00:28:34 <_bjoern> n5h: no how long?
00:28:34 <Monty2> .translate
00:28:35 <n5h> but were being stopped by another off-duty officer named jerry. jerry then foolishly opened the door and she let me mirror a text-only geocities account with it 'exceeding its bandwidth allowance'?
00:28:43 <_bjoern> n5h: jerry?
00:28:44 <n5h> it's 5am. what you gonna do? awesome. monty, you don't want to vomit.
00:28:45 <Monty2> dudes
00:28:50 <_bjoern> n5h: its not 5am?
00:28:51 <n5h> oh.
00:28:56 <_bjoern> yo Monty2
00:28:57 <Monty2> we're confused
00:29:02 <_bjoern> Yes we are.
00:37:56 <_bjoern> Hello Swhack
01:02:44 <aspect> hi Monty2
01:02:47 <Monty2> I reckon BBC + federation = musical pelican crossing.
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01:09:31 <Monty2> bah, it's nsh again
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02:27:49 <Monty2> bah, it's MacTed again
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03:29:44 <thelsdj> hrm, so i didn't add the Inline::MakeMaker dependency properly, has to be a build_requires in the META.yml, but need to figure how to get that autogenerated properly
04:03:17 <nslater> n5h!
04:03:18 <n5h> bernard shaw. enough women nation -> fish. take care man. riding the nobuteru taniguchi drift.
04:03:38 *** nslater changed the topic to: "<n5h> bernard shaw. enough women nation -> fish. take care man. riding the nobuteru taniguchi drift."
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04:05:28 <nslater> n5h: tell me more about that
04:05:29 <n5h> an open world system is one of those speedy-up-mjiggies. 2:26 / 6:22.
04:05:39 <nslater> n5h: k
04:05:39 <n5h> candidesp?) is next on my screen is getting wider. and pcworld's call centre is more in the course of its contemporary-import. totally.
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07:09:57 <xover> Wow. We set up a MediaWiki for internal use… and the first thing they want to do is lock it down so you can't even view pages without being a registered user, and with moderator approval required to register.
07:10:31 <aspect> nobody understands the wiki way
07:10:49 <aspect> i had a workplace want a wiki for everything; I got involved early then backed out when they started talking about xoops
07:11:52 <aspect> it turned into this big, complex beast which was basically useless
07:12:11 <xover> Don't get me wrong. I like security. In fact, I'm the god damned official Security Advisor for this company. But really people, give me a break. It's a fucking wiki!
07:13:18 <xover> It's going to contain stuff like “We like to use all lowercase characters for hostnames in DNS.” or “We bought the coffe maker from Foo Co., you can call 555-12-345 for new filters or service”.
07:14:08 <xover> Patient Jurnals on the other hand, they want to publish on the Internet.
07:14:47 <xover> I swear, the next person to want triple-encryption and armed guards for their fucking shopping list I'm going to tear them a new asshole.
07:15:18 * xover wonder whether the above rant is a sign that he needs more coffee, or less…
07:17:30 * xover opts for more…
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07:18:26 <kwijibo> anyone any good at grammar - the terms for parts of speech and that?
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07:41:22 <Monty2> lo KiYanWang
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08:14:12 <xover> kwijibo: Yes, there are far too many pseudo-linguists on this damn channel. Ask your question and soeone will jump in (possibly not with the answer you need, but I'm sure it'll be amusing all the same).
08:14:36 <kwijibo> :p
08:14:44 * Arnia hides from the angry xover
08:15:15 <kwijibo> I was wondering about the phrase "staggering intellect" and it's possible interpretations
08:15:21 <xover> Angry? I've not even worked up a good “mildly irritated” yet.
08:15:35 <kwijibo> you could take it to mean an intellect so imprressive that it staggers onlookers
08:15:40 <xover> s/it's/its/
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08:15:58 <xover> s/imprressive/impressive/
08:16:22 <xover> And you should capitalise the initial letter og your sentences, and end them with a proper punctuation mark of some sort.
08:16:51 <kwijibo> or, if you were so inclined, to mean a mind that staggers around like a drunk, from one side of the pavement to the other
08:16:55 <xover> Oh, you mean you want actual intelligent discourse and not a grammar nazi? So sorry, you should have said. :-)
08:17:31 <kwijibo> how would you characterise those two possible senses of 'staggering' ?
08:17:36 <xover> Hmm. Good pun material that.
08:17:49 * xover makes a note…
08:18:56 <xover> Well, I would go for staggering in the sense “so impressive it causes one to stagger”, but, well, my grasp of language (/any/ language) is generally piss poor.
08:18:57 <Monty2> plum: do anything so that all
08:19:46 <xover> Arnia: As a hobbyist linguist /and/ a staggering intellect yourself, what's your take?
08:19:58 <kwijibo> the first is obviously the 'real' one
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08:20:25 <Arnia> xover: just woke up... give me a few moments to inject myself with caffeine
08:21:32 <kwijibo> although the second seems more straightforward grammatically
08:21:32 <kwijibo> but how would you describe those different uses?
08:21:43 <Arnia> kwijibo: the latter is the more concrete and therefore the most 'real'
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08:22:03 <kwijibo> staggering intellect vs staggering drunkard ?
08:22:05 <Arnia> kwijibo: the former is a metaphoric extension
08:22:51 <Arnia> Whereby certain qualities of the latter are brought to bear on the situation of the former
08:25:48 <Arnia> Significantly for this example however are cultural effects. As we tend to see 'staggering intellect' as a unit meaning the former more often than the latter nowadays (a co-location), it has developed its own complex nuances of meaning quite independent of the original, more concrete expression. For other examples of this see 'terrible', 'awful' and 'awesome', etc.
08:28:12 <xover> .gcs "staggering intellect" "towering intellect"
08:28:14 <phenny> "towering intellect" (20,600), "staggering intellect" (2,170)
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08:29:09 <Arnia> Both those figures seem rather low
08:30:16 <xover> .gc "those figures seem rather low"
08:30:17 <phenny> "those figures seem rather low": 3
08:30:52 <xover> .gcs work play
08:30:52 <phenny> work (2,230,000,000), play (113,000,000)
08:30:58 <xover> *sigh*
08:31:21 <xover> Note To Self: Don't use Googlecount as a magic eigthball.
08:31:35 * xover -> `ork…
08:33:47 <kwijibo> Arnia: xover but is there a technical term for their use grammatically - ie, staggering itself, vs staggering others
08:39:05 <Arnia> kwijibo: not unless you're a transformational grammarian
08:39:57 <kwijibo> what's that?
08:40:11 <kwijibo> .wik transformational grammar
08:40:12 <phenny> "In linguistics, a transformational grammar, or transformational-generative grammar (TGG), is a generative grammar, especially of a natural language, that has been developed in a Chomskyan tradition." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformational_grammar
08:40:21 <kwijibo> ok
08:43:34 <Arnia> Essentially, a transformational grammarian would hold that any difference in meaning between the two uses of 'staggering' is either due to homonymy (one token with multiple completely independent meanings) or due to covert movement in the syntax
08:44:43 <Arnia> Personally, I believe this to be bullshit. However, that is because I'm a cognitive linguist. For me, the two meanings are based on a cognitive semantic process of metaphor, rather than a syntactic or pure lexical process
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08:50:03 <Arnia> For an intermediate approach see Pustejovsky's 'Generative Lexicon'
08:50:04 <sbp> yo
08:50:04 <phenny> sbp: 00:27Z <_bjoern> tell sbp <phenny> "Gotta watch out for islamic non-NPOV on here." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monty2
08:50:09 <Monty2> infra-red Nauruan sand piddles IMAP manual control and excluded pornographic cellar!
08:50:52 <kwijibo> Arnia: not the simple answer i was hoping for, but fascinating and informative nonetheless ;)
08:50:54 <sbp> hehe
08:51:02 <sbp> phenny: tell _bjoern see also the bottom of the discussion page
08:51:03 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
08:51:35 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater "CouchDB is written an Erlang"? written an Erlang?
08:51:36 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
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08:52:31 <Arnia> kwijibo: if you were to push me, I'd call staggering in the latter sense a verbal adjective and staggering in the former a simple adjective
08:52:50 <Arnia> kwijibo: but it wouldn't be a distinction I'd normally make, given my theoretical biases
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08:54:19 <Arnia> (a verbal adjective is one which can be rewritten as the main verb of a relative clause; e.g. 'a staggering mind' -> 'a mind that staggers')
08:54:22 <sbp> we should be appointed Purveyor of Concepts to the Queen
08:54:34 <sbp> we could certainly purvey her concepts
08:56:24 <Arnia> The very definition of a verbal adjective is complex however, as you either lose aspect or you end up with a deep (to use the TG term) form which is syntactically indistinguishable from a possible rewriting of a plain adjective into a relative clause form ('a mind that is staggering')
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08:58:03 <Arnia> Of course, a transformational grammarian would say that they really have different deep structures and it is only the less real surface form which is ambiguous. Which is a lot of my gripe with the idea of TG actually; how can you say that these arbitrary transformations, and their deep structure sources, are more real than the actual words which are spoken?
08:58:12 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater http://www.bash.org/?870274
08:58:12 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
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09:00:48 <Arnia> ahem, and so endeth the linguistics lecture
09:00:57 <sbp> .gc "small probability of likelihoods"
09:00:58 <phenny> "small probability of likelihoods": 0
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09:04:14 <Monty2> it's danja!
09:05:05 <Arnia> Monty2: reduplicate
09:05:11 <Monty2> MS has just woke up... give (3), warn (6), ml (6), investigate (5), gone (5), beach - Definition - contact Thales.
09:06:42 <sbp> [[[
09:06:43 <sbp> The original teaching of John’s gospel is, "In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God . . . And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us"[10]. (The Greek rules of grammar determine the correct word order in English.) The only[citation needed] development or evolution of doctrine was to condemn as heretical virtually every attempt to explain the how of the incarnation.
09:06:48 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_the_Logos
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09:45:32 <nsh> .ety interpret
09:45:33 <phenny> "1382, from L. interpretari 'explain, expound, understand,' from interpres 'agent, translator,' from inter- + second element of uncertain origin, perhaps related to Skt. prath- 'to spread abroad.' Interpretation is attested from 1292 in Anglo-Fr. Interpreter 'one who [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=interpret
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10:42:33 <danja> .gc teflon thong
10:42:35 <phenny> teflon thong: 128,000
10:42:42 <danja> omg
10:49:17 <nsh> .gc "teflon thong"
10:49:18 <phenny> "teflon thong": 19
10:49:19 <nsh> PLSPLSPLS
10:49:21 <nsh> cool
10:56:48 <nsh> n5h, kick me some vibes, chancy
10:56:50 <n5h> sbp, wth is that? cool. eel: ff"hmm)).
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12:09:49 <nsh> .gs incredibly *
12:09:51 <phenny> incredibly *: talented (7), unattractive (6), easy (5), dull (5), moronic (4), hideous (4), at (4), stupid (3), strange (3), slow speeds (3), rich (3)
12:10:19 <nsh> .c 120 euro in gbp
12:10:20 <phenny> 120 Euros = 95.1182535 British pounds
12:11:10 <cre8radix> SBP!
12:11:10 <phenny> cre8radix: 01 Jul 16:24Z <_bjoern> tell cre8radix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPIisDg_XQQ
12:11:12 <phenny> cre8radix: 01 Jul 16:35Z <_bjoern> tell cre8radix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICaOm6Zolns
12:25:57 <sbp> cre8radix: YO!
12:26:44 <_bjoern> .gs PUNCH ME IN MY *
12:26:44 <phenny> _bjoern: 08:51Z <sbp> tell _bjoern see also the bottom of the discussion page
12:26:47 <phenny> PUNCH ME IN MY *: face (25), stomach (6), mouth (4), belly (4), dying (3), own house (2), ovaries (2), nose (2), jaw (2), eyes (2), chest (2), balls (2), arm (2)
12:27:00 <_bjoern> NO SEE *UR* BOTTOM
12:27:09 * nslater waves
12:27:09 <phenny> nslater: 08:51Z <sbp> tell nslater "CouchDB is written an Erlang"? written an Erlang?
12:27:10 <phenny> nslater: 08:58Z <sbp> tell nslater http://www.bash.org/?870274
12:28:14 <nslater> sbp: you only just realised this!?
12:28:42 <nsh> whut we only just realising?
12:28:52 <nslater> see first phenny message
12:29:12 <nslater> .wik couchdb
12:29:13 <phenny> "Apache CouchDB, commonly referred to as CouchDB, is a free software document-oriented database written in the Erlang programming language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CouchDB
12:30:10 <nsh> i think sbp was remarking on message, rather than its meaning
12:30:21 <nslater> aaah
12:30:33 <nslater> I get you... well, a source would be nice : : : ) ) )
12:30:39 <sbp> nslater: written *an* Erlang?
12:31:01 <nslater> http://www.nabble.com/CouchDB---An-Erlang-Project-td18260495.html
12:31:05 * nslater chuckles
12:35:12 <nslater> oh, yesh, I got a fantastic email this morning
12:35:13 <nslater> http://bytesexual.org/miscellanea/email/prominent
12:35:25 <nslater> ... if only more people would send me emails like this, I would be a happy boy
12:35:41 <sbp> tell them United States Of America Dollars are worthless
12:35:45 <nslater> heh
12:35:46 <sbp> or soon will amount to that
12:36:00 <nslater> "Due to your effort, using internet programs indoor and in your office," ...
12:37:46 <nslater> also, sbp, I have my book today XD
12:37:52 <sbp> great!
12:38:06 <nslater> it's a little fatter than I had expected :p
12:38:18 <sbp> the second part is about double the size
12:38:23 <nslater> heh
12:38:31 <sbp> shame that both aren't treble; they're excellent
12:38:53 <nslater> well, I'll see how I get along with this fist, though it's been a while since I've done any proper reading... I should set aside some time this weekend
12:51:46 <nslater> .title http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2008/06/25/school_locked_down_after_ninja_sighted_in_woods/
12:51:47 <phenny> nslater: School locked down after 'ninja' sighted in woods - Boston.com
12:51:56 <_bjoern> OMG NINJAS
12:53:08 <nslater> ahaha, I just spotted a document with "text/html; charset=unicode"
12:53:16 <nslater> .gc "charset=unicode"
12:53:17 <phenny> "charset=unicode": 71,700
12:53:21 <nslater> .g "charset=unicode"
12:53:22 <phenny> nslater: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7b93s42f.aspx
12:54:58 <_bjoern> that's microsoft for utf-16le
12:55:12 <_bjoern> Internet Explorer supports the label.
12:55:20 <nslater> pfft
12:55:38 <_bjoern> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2008Jun/0155.html
12:56:00 <nslater> that's so lame
12:57:05 <nslater> ... I like your email sig
12:57:30 <_bjoern> Thanks. As you might guess, I put some effort into it.
12:57:39 <nslater> yeah... XD
12:57:39 <Monty2> "fair isaac"?
12:57:55 <nslater> if only you could get the last uri to be one character longer!
12:58:24 <_bjoern> two, actually, as the / there sucks
12:58:35 <nslater> hmm, that uri 301s to the second uri
12:58:45 <_bjoern> I could have used "wwwww..."
12:58:54 <_bjoern> in place of the www that is
12:59:01 <nslater> or called it websitedevel
12:59:14 <_bjoern> that's too devilish.
12:59:18 <nslater> heh
12:59:36 <nslater> co.de? some other 3rd level domain?
12:59:45 <nslater> nah, that wouldnt work
13:00:15 <_bjoern> I could get one extra char using http://www.websitedev.de./
13:00:15 <nslater> heh, mywebsitedev.de
13:00:24 <nslater> ooh, is that valid?
13:00:27 <_bjoern> yes
13:00:28 <nslater> sweet
13:01:06 <nslater> hmm, http://bytesexual.org./ doesnt 301 to http://bytesexual.org/
13:01:22 <nslater> which is annoying, I had configured apache to auto correct the domain name
13:01:32 <nslater> so, like, bytesexual.com or www.bytesexual.net will work
13:01:35 <_bjoern> the browser might not send the . in the host header, never checked
13:01:44 <nslater> hmm
13:01:52 <nslater> i have firebug installed, let's see what it says
13:02:15 <nslater> yup, it sends: Host: bytesexual.org/
13:02:21 <nslater> s,/,.,
13:02:43 <nslater> damn...
13:02:47 * nslater adds note to his todo list
13:03:07 <_bjoern> then your rewrite rule might be buggy
13:03:24 <nslater> more than likely
13:03:50 <nslater> aaah, that's why
13:04:22 <nslater> I have a default vhost set up for that ip address that simply does this:
13:04:25 <nslater> RewriteEngine On
13:04:26 <nslater> RewriteRule /(.*) http://bytesexual.org/$1 [R=301,L]
13:04:43 <nslater> but because bytesexual.org. matches the real vhost, I presume the host is valid
13:04:59 <nslater> loggy: poing
13:04:59 <_bjoern> use a rewritecond http_host rule
13:05:01 <nslater> loggy: pointer
13:05:01 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-07-04#T13-05-01
13:05:15 <nslater> yup, thanks! will do it laterz
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14:33:24 <bjoern_> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/03/biofuels.renewableenergy
14:33:26 <phenny> bjoern_: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis | Environment | The Guardian
14:34:58 <bjoern_> .gc "Doesn't your masthead look perdy?"
14:34:59 <phenny> "Doesn't your masthead look perdy?": 34
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14:36:29 <nsh> .wik IPA
14:36:30 <phenny> "The International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)[I]| is a system of phonetic notation based on the Latin alphabet, devised by the International Phonetic Association as a standardized representation of the sounds of spoken language.[1]| The IPA is used by linguists, speech [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA
14:36:37 <nsh> .wik IPA chemistry
14:36:39 <phenny> "The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) (IPA: /aɪjuːpæk/ or ay-yoo-pec) is an international non-governmental organization established in 1919 devoted to the advancement of chemistry." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Pure_and_Applied_Chemistry
14:37:29 <nsh> .wik Indole propionic acid
14:37:31 <phenny> "Tryptophan (abbreviated as Trp or W)[1]| is one of the 20 standard amino acids, as well as an essential amino acid in the human diet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan
14:38:00 <bjoern_> .title http://www.lifepr.de/pressemeldungen/skysails-gmbh-co-kg/boxid-53340.html
14:38:03 <phenny> bjoern_: Towing Kite Propulsion for Ships Out-performs Traditional Sails More than Five Times Over
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14:45:22 <nsh> .wik Buccal mucosa
14:45:23 <phenny> "Buccal mucosa is mucous membrane of the inside of the cheek." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buccal_mucosa
14:47:30 <nsh> Alexander Shulgin -- biggest testicles in synthetic chemistry:
14:47:35 <nsh> [[[ (with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "I don't like this feeling -- I am not myself. I saw such strange dreams a while ago. Strange creatures, dwarfs or something; they were black and moved about. Now I feel as if I am not alive. My left hand is numb. As if my heart would not beat, as if I had no body, no nothing. All I feel are my left hand and stomach. I don't like to be without thoughts."
14:47:35 <nsh> (with 75 mg, intramuscularly)
14:47:41 <nsh> ... ]]] -- http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal06.shtml
14:48:07 <nsh> .wik mydriasis
14:48:08 <phenny> "Mydriasis is an excessive dilation of the pupil due to disease, trauma or drugs." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mydriasis
14:48:36 <nsh> .wik athetoid
14:48:37 <phenny> "Athetosis is a continuous stream of slow, sinuous, writhing movements, typically of the hands and feet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athetoid
14:51:19 <nsh> .wik Tanacetum vulgare
14:51:20 <phenny> "Tansy (Tanacetum vulgare) is a perennial herbaceous flowering plant of the aster family that is native to temperate Europe and Asia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanacetum_vulgare
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15:12:57 <xover> Oh. Dear. Gods. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/2635257578/
15:17:17 <nslater> sigh, closed platforms
15:17:51 <xover> Dude, you gotta working fucking *hard* to produce a monstrosity like that for the iPhone.
15:17:51 <Monty2> potty mouth!
15:18:00 <nslater> oh sure, I went on a tangent
15:18:15 <xover> An… unrelated… tangent?
15:18:33 <nslater> no, the comments keep saying "omg so glad this wont be accepted"
15:18:37 <bjoern_> tangents should always be related to a curve?
15:18:38 <nslater> or "take away his developer card"
15:18:53 <nslater> which makes me sigh, closed platforms ftl
15:19:07 <bjoern_> In my days we'd just have set his place on fire.
15:20:35 <xover> Dude. /That's/ what you find worth remarking about on that page?
15:20:44 <xover> You need help.
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15:21:40 <bjoern_> A german court ruled banks liable for phishing demages.
15:21:44 <nslater> well, yeah, bad UI design, whateverz, commenting on it would be redundant
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15:21:57 <kpreid> xover: Dude, you think his priorities are that bad? You need help.
15:21:59 <kpreid> :-)
15:29:00 <xover> Hey, have you seen this site called “Slashdot”? I hear it's really rad… if you like to read the comments.
15:29:31 <sbp> it's been permanently down for me, lately
15:29:36 <sbp> which is no bad thing, admittedly
15:29:42 <sbp> .head http://slashdot.org/
15:29:43 <phenny> sbp: 200, text/html, iso-8859-1
15:29:48 <sbp> up for the rest of the world though
15:31:30 * Arnia boings
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15:32:06 <kpreid> huh
15:32:36 <kpreid> I thought the odometer thing was a horribly gaudy gimmicky thingy, and was mildly disturbed to see the flickr comments say it was an Apple-provided control
15:32:51 <kpreid> but now I get the idea that it's an *entry* widget
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15:33:02 <kpreid> pardon me while I adjust my expectations for touch-screens
15:33:37 <sbp> yo Arnia
15:35:28 <bjoern_> So have our storks given up? The nest is empty atm.
15:35:48 <Arnia> kpreid: well, the odometer is meant to be large so you can enter things in more easily. I believe they say in the docs and UI style recommendations that you should try and avoid using it where possible and have it appear only when necessary for entry.
15:36:01 <bjoern_> hmm not quite, at least they use the nest still
15:36:07 <bjoern_> but enoeggs?
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15:36:29 <kpreid> Arnia: I'm not saying it's a good use (or not), just that the widget itself has reasons for the way it is. What kind of numbers does Apple use it for?
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15:36:49 <Arnia> I believe it is actually mostly used for time and date situations
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15:37:07 <Arnia> Sort of like an old-style perpetual calendar
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15:40:25 <Arnia> Other circumstances are with lists of things... so it is like a rolladex (or however you spell that) file
15:41:10 <kpreid> Rolodex™
15:41:35 <Arnia> Aha
15:41:53 <Arnia> I like this comment "@dan-apalooza: It won't get accepted, the terms state that you need to follow the HIG."
15:42:10 <sbp> bjoern_: they've been on and off for ages
15:42:19 <sbp> not sure what happened to the eggs...
15:42:19 <Arnia> We have style police ;)
15:43:03 <bjoern_> Haven't checked much on them lately
15:44:36 <bjoern_> haec olim meminisse iuvabit
15:47:26 * Arnia sniggers
15:47:34 <Arnia> "Look John, you can talk up your laughable "usability" and "beauty" criticisms till the rooster crows, but the more knowledgeable and experienced PDA developers know it all comes down to features, and unreasonably light-blue backgrounds." — ibid
15:47:58 <Arnia> "For Queen, Country and Unreasonably Light-Blue Backgrounds!"
15:48:15 <bjoern_> where do we sign up?
15:51:52 <Arnia> Hm... O2 just tried to call me apparently
15:52:02 <Arnia> From a Blackpool number (01253)
15:52:47 <Arnia> now... one of the reasons I'm looking to switch to O2 is, quite apart from the iPhone, the signal in and around Co Durham on T-Mobile is crap and O2's is quite good
15:53:07 <Arnia> So, I can't get signed up if I can't answer the calls but I can't answer the calls if I don't sign up
15:53:20 <Arnia> mm... ironylicious
15:53:32 <kpreid> Dude, where's your land-line? :-)
15:54:31 <Arnia> Land line? What a strange concept
15:54:41 <sbp> I think he means a border
15:54:46 <sbp> or possibly a Roman road
15:55:08 <Arnia> aha, apparently it is a scammer number pretending to provide mobile services and other things
15:55:14 <Arnia> http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/01253755781
15:55:17 <chandler> heh. the reason I went T-Mobile in the USA over the iPhone is that several T-Mobile phones can use 802.11[bg] as a cell tower
16:00:20 <clsn> sbp: muahaha, turns out my font program can extract fonts from PDFs. OK, can't get the font *right*, none of the cool substitution tables and maybe not all the letters. But cool anyway.
16:00:57 <bjoern_> PIRATES !!!!!!!!
16:01:53 <clsn> NINJAS !!!
16:02:33 <Arnia> BADGER ATTACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:02:34 <bjoern_> .gcs "pirates steal fonts" "ninjas steal fonts"
16:02:35 <phenny> "pirates steal fonts" (0), "ninjas steal fonts" (0)
16:02:52 <bjoern_> .gc "pirates ate my babysitter"
16:02:53 <phenny> "pirates ate my babysitter": 0
16:03:14 <Arnia> .gc "pirates ate my tofu"
16:03:15 <phenny> "pirates ate my tofu": 0
16:03:54 <sbp> clsn: one that you wrote, or one that you use?
16:04:02 <chandler> .gc "pirate tofu"
16:04:03 <phenny> "pirate tofu": 18
16:04:14 <bjoern_> .gc "tofu pirate"
16:04:15 <phenny> "tofu pirate": 784
16:04:19 <clsn> The one I use.
16:04:24 <clsn> fontforge.
16:05:52 <Arnia> Fontforge extracts?
16:05:54 <Arnia> Wow
16:05:59 * Arnia boings at clsn
16:06:49 <clsn> Fontforge kicks six different kinds of ass.
16:08:18 <sbp> Abyssinian Donkey, American Spotted Donkey, Cypriot Donkey, Mammoth Donkey, Mammoth Jack, and Miniature Mediterranean Donkey?
16:09:44 <clsn> SOmething like that.
16:10:31 * Arnia puts the ass up a minaret
16:10:38 <bjoern_> kicking donkey ass is dangerously close to sucking donkey balls.
16:10:40 * Arnia shakes the ass in a minuet
16:11:19 <clsn> Kicking donkey ass is redundant.
16:11:25 <sbp> hehe
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16:11:39 <bjoern_> Licking donkey ass is abundant.
16:11:52 <sbp> .mangle licking donkey ass is abundant
16:11:58 <phenny> sbp: Leccare donkey donkey is abundant
16:18:08 <kpreid> .mangle is a term for something in paper-making or printing, I forget which
16:18:18 <phenny> kpreid: is a term for something in the manufacture of paper or printing, I forget that
16:18:30 <kpreid> :(
16:18:49 <bjoern_> bowl glazing?
16:19:19 <clsn> A mangle is one of those two-cylinder thingies that old washing machines would rolls/squeeze wet clothes between.
16:20:08 <kpreid> Yeah, I think they do that to wet paper too.
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16:20:16 <bjoern_> Yes, they are called Mangel in german. Also http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Mangel
16:20:38 <bjoern_> I take it none of you actually made their own recycling paper at home.
16:22:02 <melbel> did you, bjoern_?
16:22:14 * nslater did
16:22:18 <bjoern_> I vaguely recollect doing it.
16:22:50 <bjoern_> The resulting sheets are ink sucking bastards though.
16:23:06 <melbel> but what do you make it from?
16:23:30 <bjoern_> You make recycling paper from old paper.
16:24:01 <nslater> and flowers
16:24:17 <nslater> sometimes
16:24:57 <melbel> what about the ink and writing already on the paper?
16:25:20 <nslater> you bleach it
16:25:31 <melbel> oh hmmmm
16:25:39 <clsn> Or you shrug and forget about it and survive with greyish paper.
16:25:54 <nslater> or that
16:25:59 <sbp> <bjoern_> I take it none of you actually made their own recycling paper at home.
16:26:00 <sbp> yup, I did
16:26:13 <clsn> You can also make it from dryer lint.
16:26:26 <clsn> After all, the really best papers are made from rags.
16:26:58 <nslater> yeah, totally, isn't that how germany forged money in WW2?
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16:27:44 <Monty2> hi Alex, how ya doing?
16:27:44 <bjoern_> We forged money?
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16:28:03 <bjoern_> Your timing is peccable.
16:28:06 <clsn> US bills, at least, have red and blue cloth fibers in them. Other countries do similar things. But even really good writing paper is often made with cotton etc.
16:28:06 <nslater> bjoern_: yes, the germans got the jewish prisoners to forge money
16:28:07 <melbel> Alex :]
16:28:16 <clsn> Germany also essentially forged its own currency.
16:28:28 <clsn> That's why it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
16:28:33 <nslater> yeah, they also forged a lot of british notes
16:28:57 <bjoern_> We forged whole countries, like Switzerland.
16:29:25 <nslater> .wik Operation Bernhard
16:29:25 <phenny> "Operation Bernhard was the name of a secret German plan devised during the Second World War to destabilise the British economy by flooding the country with forged Bank of England £5, £10, £20, and £50 notes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard
16:31:05 <clsn> Wow... according to the article they were extremely high-quality counterfeits. For some reason I expected to hear that they were poor quality.
16:31:22 <nslater> see also:
16:31:24 <nslater> .wik The Counterfeiters (film)
16:31:24 <phenny> "The Counterfeiters (German: Die Fälscher) is an Academy Award winning 2007 Austrian/German film written and directed by Stefan Ruzowitzky." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Counterfeiters_(film)
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16:32:08 <bjoern_> .wik Made in Germany
16:32:09 <phenny> "Made in Germany is a merchandise mark indicating that a product has been manufactured in Germany." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany
16:32:43 <nslater> .wik Superdollar
16:32:43 <phenny> "A superdollar or supernote is an almost perfect counterfeit of a United States banknote, believed to have been made by an unknown organization or government." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdollar
16:32:50 <nslater> "Currently, it is estimated that 1 in 10,000 bills is a supernote."
16:33:05 <melbel> mmmm
16:33:19 <melbel> counterfeits are fun
16:33:42 <nslater> "Their research suggested that the real source of the superdollars is a secret printing facility close to Washington, D.C., and owned by the CIA. According to FAZ the forged dollars are used to finance secret CIA operations."
16:33:47 <bjoern_> "The term Made in Germany was soon associated with product reliability, quality and even perfection."
16:33:55 <nslater> lol
16:34:24 <clsn> "German spy Elyesa Bazna (codename "Cicero") was paid with counterfeit notes, and unsuccessfully sued the German government after the war for outstanding pay."
16:34:30 <clsn> That takes some balls...
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16:38:44 <MacTed> .gs pirates ate my *
16:38:44 <MacTed> .gs ninjas ate my *
16:38:44 <phenny> pirates ate my *: brain (3), baby (3), soul (2), lunch (2), kidneys (2), homework (2), hamster (2)
16:38:45 <phenny> ninjas ate my *: homework (22), soup (2), mom (2)
16:38:58 <bjoern_> .gs aliens ate my *
16:38:59 <phenny> aliens ate my *: babysitter (13), baby (10), homework (7), lunch (5), buick (5), marketing (3), b-line mix (3), schnitzel (2), homework rc 40831 (2), email (2)
16:39:14 <MacTed> .gs jesus built my *
16:39:15 <phenny> jesus built my *: hotrod (142), hot (9), stelph (4), hotroad (4), hotro (3), hot rod (3), muffuletta (2), car (2), blodtrycksmätare (2)
16:39:24 <clsn> wow, lotta hotrods.
16:39:29 <bjoern_> .gs * built my jesus
16:39:30 <phenny> * built my jesus: No results!
16:39:38 <nslater> .gs jesus ate my *
16:39:39 <phenny> jesus ate my *: baby (14), homework (13), doritos (8), hobnobs (4), best (4), arm (4), toothpaste (3), tacos (3), stereo (3), monkey (3), jaffa (3), hotdog (3)
16:39:46 <nslater> monkey
16:39:53 <bjoern_> Jaffa.
16:39:57 <MacTed> .gs * by jesus
16:39:58 <phenny> * by jesus: written (3), munki (3), posted (2), healed (2)
16:40:03 <nslater> .ety jaffa
16:40:04 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "jaffa". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=jaffa
16:40:08 <bjoern_> .wik Jaffa
16:40:09 <phenny> "Jaffa (Hebrew: יָפוֹ, Yafo Arabic: يَافَا Yāfā (help·info); also Japho, Joppa, and, in the Amarna Letters, Yapu) is an ancient port city located south of Tel Aviv, Israel on the Mediterranean Sea." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa
16:40:16 <bjoern_> .wik Teal'c
16:40:17 <phenny> "Teal'c [ˈtiːəlk] (born c. 1899[1]|) is a fictional character in the science fiction television series Stargate SG-1." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teal'c
16:41:16 <nslater> oh man, I want some jaffa cakes now
16:41:16 <Monty2> URI / relative-ref
16:44:12 <xover> Mmm. Jaffa cakes.
16:44:21 * nslater consideres going out to buy some
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16:54:51 <bjoern_> Hmm, I wonder whether you can use JS `yield` to simulate a WaitForEvent function
17:05:07 <bjoern_> it does seem so, you'd make a hosting function that queries the function that wants to wait for events
17:05:13 <bjoern_> the latter function then does stuffs like
17:05:25 <bjoern_> var img1 = new Image(...);
17:05:25 <bjoern_> yield [ img1, null, 'load', 'target' ];
17:05:25 <bjoern_> var img2 = new Image(...);
17:05:25 <bjoern_> yield [ img2, null, 'load', 'target' ];
17:05:25 <bjoern_> ... now draw them both on your <canvas> ...
17:05:58 <bjoern_> and the hosting function checks for the return value, registers an event listener, and returns
17:06:14 <bjoern_> the listener then calls the hosted functions .next() method as appropriate
17:08:40 * nslater has jaffa cakes
17:09:35 <bjoern_> I trust browsers have race conditions where loading might complete before registering the listener...
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17:10:40 <bjoern_> Well for new Image in particular, you could add the listener after the new Image but before setting the .src
17:10:56 <bjoern_> that would gurantee that the listener will be called, unless there is an error of course
17:11:11 <nslater> http://simonwillison.net/2008/Jul/4/quipt/
17:11:16 <nslater> "Extremely clever idea: Cache JavaScript in window.name (which persists between page views and can hold several MB of data), but use document.referrer to check that an external domain hasn’t loaded the cache with malicious code for an XSS attack."
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17:13:52 <bjoern_> So then you'd have
17:13:55 <bjoern_> var img1 = new Image(32,32);
17:13:55 <bjoern_> img1.addEventListener('load', host, false);
17:13:55 <bjoern_> im1.src = ...
17:13:55 <bjoern_> yield;
17:13:56 <bjoern_> ...
17:14:10 <bjoern_> where host's handleEvent simply calls client.next()
17:14:19 <bjoern_> and then unregisters itself, probably
17:16:31 <bjoern_> var self = arguments.callee;
17:16:31 <bjoern_> var img1 = new Image(32,32);
17:16:31 <bjoern_> img1.addEventListener('load',
17:16:31 <bjoern_> function(evt) {
17:16:31 <bjoern_> evt.currentTarget.removeEventListener(evt.type, self, false);
17:16:32 <bjoern_> self.next();
17:16:34 <bjoern_> }, false);
17:16:36 <bjoern_> im1.src = ...;
17:16:38 <bjoern_> yield;
17:16:40 <bjoern_> perhaps
17:17:07 <nslater> woah... http://www.showusabetterway.com/
17:17:16 <nslater> [[[
17:17:19 <nslater> The UK Government wants to hear your ideas for new products that could improve the way public information is communicated. The Power of Information Taskforce is running a competition on the Government's behalf, and we have a £20,000 prize fund to develop the best ideas to the next level. You can see the type of thing we are are looking for here.
17:17:25 <nslater> To show they are serious, the Government is making available gigabytes of new or previously invisible public information especially for people to use in this competition. Rest assured, this competition does not include personal information about people.
17:17:29 <nslater> ]]]
17:17:30 <bjoern_> Had that yesterday
17:17:37 <nslater> oh. sry
17:17:44 * nslater hands bjoern_ a jaffa cake
17:18:14 <bjoern_> Oh it's not a problem, I'm just telling you so you don't wonder about lack of interest, or might check the logs for comments if you care.
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17:20:30 <bjoern_> so if we put the hosting part into a function we could do
17:20:49 <bjoern_> var img1 = new Image(32, 32);
17:20:49 <bjoern_> OnYieldWaitForEvent(arguments.callee, img1, 'load', false);
17:20:49 <bjoern_> im1.src = ...;
17:20:49 <bjoern_> yield;
17:21:37 <thelsdj> another day, another 2 cpan releases to raise my kwalitee score
17:21:43 <bjoern_> :-)
17:21:55 <bjoern_> Where are you now?
17:21:58 <thelsdj> somehow i managed to go _down_ at some point
17:22:26 <bjoern_> Recently? Or perhaps due to a change in metrics?
17:22:38 <thelsdj> happened after a release i did last night i think
17:22:43 <bjoern_> The graphs for some of mine als seemed weird on some points, but didn't investigate
17:23:11 <thelsdj> i think my new one should hopefully be close to perfect
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17:23:46 <thelsdj> all except the optional stuff at the end, didn't make an example
17:27:24 <bjoern_> I need one readme, use warnings in one module, and fixup css-sac http://cpants.perl.org/author/BJOERN
17:27:30 <bjoern_> then all I can control are green
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17:31:13 <bjoern_> hmm
17:31:22 <bjoern_> firefox does not run my code in <script type="application/javascript;version=1.7">
17:31:25 <bjoern_> it works with 1.6
17:31:37 <bjoern_> this is the latest ff3 release candidate, it should work?
17:33:46 <bjoern_> hmm I see
17:37:38 <bjoern_> So first problem, in the generator, arguments.callee is not the generator object
17:38:27 <bjoern_> Second problem is that it somehow does not like the .next call in the load handler
17:40:23 <bjoern_> It tells me "already executing generator" that does not make all that much sense atm
17:41:57 <bjoern_> okay seems that was caused by having alerts in it?
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17:42:38 <bjoern_> now it seems to be working.
17:43:01 <bjoern_> I wonder how to fix the arguments.callee not being the generator thing
17:43:31 <bjoern_> I wonder whether that's a bug in fact
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17:45:48 <bjoern_> anyone got a tip what might be the generator inside the generator itself?
17:49:47 <bjoern_> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350743 sounds at least related
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18:54:54 <Monty2> howdy, Germ
18:55:03 <Germ> hello bot~
18:55:06 <Germ> !
18:55:34 <Germ> Q: any of you know how to use Phenny translate function?
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18:56:42 <bjoern_> phenny, "Ich weiss wie man die benutzt!"?
18:56:43 <phenny> bjoern_: "I know how to use!" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:57:08 <Germ> ty
18:57:25 <bjoern_> .title http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2008Jul/0009.html
18:57:27 <phenny> bjoern_: Waiting for DOM Events using `yield` from Bjoern Hoehrmann on 2008-07-04 (www-archive@w3.org from July 2008)
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19:03:12 <bjoern_> I could use that to make an XHR wrapper that makes an async XHR request pseudo-block.
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19:35:25 <bjoern_> there is a bug in my script!
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19:49:46 <Monty2> it's JibberJim!
19:50:00 <bjoern_> yo ejot
19:50:35 <ejot> yo!
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20:18:28 <lto> is it possible to make phenny react to joins, invites etc.?
20:24:48 <ejot> remember hacking phenny to do logging output from a django application, threaded and all :)
20:25:21 <ejot> but ye, believe it is very possible
20:30:02 <lto> any idea how to do it?
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20:35:32 <zachb> Yes
20:35:51 <zachb> lto: using the newest version?
20:36:01 * nslater is watching from a distance
20:36:20 <zachb> Hai 'slater!
20:36:20 <lto> nope
20:36:26 <lto> the previous version
20:37:18 <lto> is it easier with the newest version?
20:37:49 <nslater> #join.rule = r".*"
20:37:49 <nslater> #join.event = "JOIN"
20:37:56 <nslater> ...
20:37:56 <nslater> phenny.bot.msg(input.bytes, response % input.nick)
20:38:04 <nslater> that's all you need to know ;)
20:38:11 <zachb> Yes
20:38:37 <zachb> def join(phenny, input):
20:38:56 <nslater> phenny.bot.msg(input.bytes, "hey"
20:38:56 <bjoern_> hmm USian fireworks outside now
20:39:06 <nslater> join.rule = r".*"
20:39:13 <nslater> join.event = "JOIN"
20:39:15 <zachb> Yeah, EVERYONE MUST CELEBRATE US!!!
20:39:52 <lto> awesome, thanks guys
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20:45:01 <pixel> Anybody know of a place (other than radio shack) to get electronic components? I have a motherboard with a bad power connector and I need to find a replacement
20:45:53 <kpreid> pixel: I think you want more of a computer-parts than an electronic-parts store
20:46:11 <nslater> ebuyer.com!
20:47:47 <lto> hmm.. does that join-code only work with the latest version of phenny?
20:48:06 <bjoern_> how old is yours?
20:48:32 <lto> the version before the latest
20:48:38 <pixel> kpried : maybe. it's an older laptop motherboard.
20:49:02 <kpreid> oh. I figured you wanted a regular ATX connector
20:49:37 <kpreid> do you know what sort it is, whether it's any particular standard, a URL of a picture, etc?
20:52:14 <pixel> well...
20:52:31 <pixel> it the actual connector on the motherboard that the power cable plugs into.
20:52:48 <pixel> very small electronic component.
20:53:53 <lto> bjoern_: i can't find any version number or date on phenny
20:54:13 <pixel> ...I'd have to resolder a new one to the motherboard.
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20:54:35 <lto> the file date is 2008-01-22
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20:59:31 <Monty2> Thank goodness, shepazutoo_ is back!
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21:21:37 <nslater> n5h, ping
21:21:37 <n5h> egg in it: 'one sexy!'". noes, teh police! hide teh lunix!!!11.
21:24:16 <nslater> .title http://programming.nu/
21:24:17 <phenny> nslater: Programming Nu
21:24:32 <nslater> "Nu is an interpreted object-oriented language. Its syntax comes from Lisp, but Nu is semantically closer to Ruby than Lisp. Nu is implemented in Objective-C and is designed to take full advantange of the Objective-C runtime and the many mature class libraries written in Objective-C. Nu code can fully interoperate with code written in Objective-C; messages can be sent to and from objects with no concern for whether those messages are implemented in ...
21:24:39 <nslater> ... Objective-C or Nu."
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23:10:24 <thelsdj> yay, 120% kwalitee
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23:27:30 <bjoern_> thelsdj++
23:27:36 <bjoern_> Guess I need to catch up then
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23:39:33 <olt> is there any equivalent to origin.host in the latest phenny?
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23:45:31 <bjoern_> .u 2571
23:45:32 <phenny> U+2571 BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DIAGONAL UPPER RIGHT TO LOWER LEFT (╱)
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23:46:24 <Monty2> hey ejot
