00:03:42 <bjoern_> Thinking about it, it might be possible to shorten the syntax to something like this
00:03:50 <bjoern_> yield WaitForEvent(function(){ img1.src = '...'; }, img1, 'load');
00:04:10 <bjoern_> this would of course be much less painful if Firefox would support IE's readyState attribute...
00:04:34 <bjoern_> then I could simply check for the State or Event
00:06:11 <bjoern_> there is probably an argument missing in the above, but the general direction should be okay
00:14:41 <olt> hmm..
00:14:53 <olt> i've run into a small problem with phenny
00:15:03 <olt> .val http://www.google.com
00:15:06 <phenny> olt: http://www.google.com is Invalid (65 errors)
00:15:12 <olt> .valasd http://www.google.com
00:15:13 <phenny> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/validate.py", line 15, in val)
00:15:48 <bjoern_> Hello olt. Please note that phenny support hours are ~ 7 hours from now to ~ 20 hours from now.
00:16:21 <olt> heh, ok
00:16:33 <bjoern_> phenny, tell sbp OMG U HAZABUGZ FIX KTHXPLZ <olt> .valasd http://www.google.com <phenny> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/validate.py", line 15, in val)
00:16:33 <phenny> bjoern_: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:16:34 <olt> probably going to bed soon myself
00:17:09 <olt> bjoern_: thanks :)
00:17:30 <bjoern_> Don't mention it, I love telling sbp how much the new phenny suxxors!
00:18:17 <olt> hehe
00:30:35 <bjoern_> .g sum es est sumus estis sunt
00:30:37 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.slu.edu/colleges/AS/languages/classical/latin/tchmat/grammar/vb/00200%20v-%20to%20be.pdf
00:33:36 <bjoern_> .w parat
00:33:37 <phenny> I couldn't find 'parat' in WordNet.
00:33:42 <bjoern_> phenny, de "parat"?
00:33:43 <phenny> bjoern_: "ready" (de to en, translate.google.com)
00:33:55 <bjoern_> .ety ready
00:33:55 <phenny> "O.E. ræde, geræde, from P.Gmc. *garaidijaz 'arranged' (cf. O.Fris. rede, M.Du. gereit, O.H.G. reiti, M.H.G. bereite, Ger. bereit, O.N. greiðr 'ready, plain,' Goth. garaiþs 'ordered, arranged')." - http://etymonline.com/?term=ready
00:34:16 <bjoern_> .gc +garaiþs
00:34:17 <phenny> +garaiþs: 48
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01:34:08 <bjoern_> countdown
01:34:09 <Monty2> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 3, 6, 6, 5, 4. Your target is 927. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
01:34:17 <bjoern_> calc (6+6)*(75)
01:34:18 <Monty2> bjoern_: 900
01:34:24 <bjoern_> calc (6+6)*(75 + 3) - 5
01:34:25 <Monty2> bjoern_: 931
01:34:30 <bjoern_> calc (6+6)*(75 + 3) - 5 - 4
01:34:30 <Monty2> bjoern_: 927
01:34:32 <bjoern_> win!
01:34:39 <Monty2> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
01:34:40 <Monty2> I found a solution in approximately 16 milliseconds. I found all 16 solutions in about 47 milliseconds.
01:34:42 <Monty2> ibot (75*4 + 6 + 5)*3 - 6
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02:50:22 <Mike_L> mwoe
02:50:26 <Mike_L> meow, too
02:50:42 <Mike_L> Monty2: hey
02:50:44 <Monty2> "small probability of berkspace
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04:34:52 <BigJibby> Monty2: stop reproducing with yourself!
04:34:52 <Monty2> Right...
04:35:06 <BigJibby> screw you, Monty2
04:35:06 <Monty2> Anybody know
04:35:31 <BigJibby> know what, Monty2?
04:35:32 <Monty2> razor blades == cooker;
04:35:47 <BigJibby> Monty2: false
04:35:50 <Monty2> shame you will start it, it *still* doesn't work!!!!
04:36:11 <BigJibby> Monty2: connect the red wire to the blue
04:36:11 <Monty2> Please go on.
04:36:41 <BigJibby> Monty2: just do it
04:36:42 <Monty2> firefox does not..
04:36:59 <BigJibby> ... Monty2, what?
04:37:01 <Monty2> Well, waffle is quickest ;)
04:37:16 <BigJibby> Monty2: you are making no sense
04:37:19 <Monty2> I reckon condoms + chums = beautiful filling >:)
04:37:36 <BigJibby> Monty2: that is just disgusting
04:37:39 <Monty2> I reckon plasma + bagpipes = excretion, apparently.
04:38:04 <BigJibby> Monty2: I've almost had enough of you
04:38:09 <Monty2> volume-control's soppy XFM admits responsibility for lesbians's configured pelican crossing!
04:38:34 <BigJibby> Monty2: yeah, so the blue wire to red wire ...
04:38:36 <Monty2> glittering spanner prefers insane self-sufficiency :(
04:38:55 <BigJibby> Monty2: you used to be cool ...
04:38:57 <Monty2> I reckon prostate gland + Caldera = bovine ISP.
05:16:06 <Mike_L> Monty2: JibGibby
05:16:07 <Monty2> organic milk :-)
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07:57:15 <sbp> yo
07:57:16 <phenny> sbp: 00:16Z <bjoern_> tell sbp OMG U HAZABUGZ FIX KTHXPLZ <olt> .valasd http://www.google.com <phenny> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/validate.py", line 15, in val)
08:23:10 <Mike_L> heh
08:23:19 <Mike_L> Monty2: say hi to sbp
08:23:22 <Monty2> I reckon percolator + Bungle = effects?!
08:31:48 <melbel> bungled percolators have fun effects
09:14:34 <sbp> seen Morbus
09:14:34 <Monty2> Morbus (n=morbus) was last seen by #tumbolia coming from c-24-34-64-110.hsd1.nh.comcast.net on Wed Jul 02 01:26:04 BST 2008 saying: http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/showthread.php?t=109
09:24:14 <bjoern_> .title http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html
09:24:15 <phenny> bjoern_: McCain Backer's Firm Pleaded Guilty To Funding Terrorist Group In Colombia - Politics on The Huffington Post
09:25:06 <bjoern_> .title http://www.thelocal.se/12792/20080702/
09:25:10 <phenny> bjoern_: The Local - Oboy: airport bomb was chocolate milk mix
09:26:38 <melbel> mmmm but strawberry milk is better
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09:31:18 <bjoern_> sbp http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-07/03/content_8479901.htm
09:32:32 <sbp> hahaha
09:32:49 <sbp> man, they're trying to embarrass the terrorists by making them piss themselves laughing?
09:33:26 <bjoern_> We cannot fight tomorrow's terrorists with yesteryear's techniques.
09:40:40 <bjoern_> "Ron Paul Claims Pelosi Spiked Iran Bill " - http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9393
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10:02:59 <bjoern_> .gs Dear *
10:03:01 <phenny> Dear *: colleagues (7), sir (5), colleague (5), one (4), diary (4), bobbie (4), abby (4), sirs (3), roping (3), prudence (3), phoebe (3), mr (3), margo (3)
10:03:29 <bjoern_> .gs UnDear *
10:03:30 <phenny> UnDear *: wear (3), costly (3), yard (2), undead (2), rogue rowende 11314 (2), putea spune (2), process (2), o deshacer (2), joo chir (2), jazzes (2), at (2)
10:03:46 <bjoern_> .gc +undearwear
10:03:47 <phenny> +undearwear: 8,340
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10:16:59 <bjoern_> "SACK-IMMEDIATELY extension for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol"
10:26:02 <laplink> Does it have an “SACK-IMMEDIATELY-WITHOUT-SEVERANCE” variant?
10:26:40 <bjoern_> You and your severance avoidance.
10:27:14 <laplink> Hey, I'm responsible for the budget now.
10:27:42 <laplink> Those grubby employees and their insistence on getting paid all the time are ruining my numbers.
10:27:43 <bjoern_> So you get to be blamed when people spend the monies poorly?
10:28:13 <laplink> I get to be blamed when they spend the monies _wisely_.
10:28:40 <bjoern_> You probably get to be blamed either way, you just haven't experienced both options yet.
10:28:42 <JimJibber> Don't pay them laplink!
10:29:03 <laplink> I tried that, but the miserable little grunts refused to work.
10:29:51 <bjoern_> post a sign "Always remember, I can keep my monies if you are found floating in a river".
10:30:02 <laplink> One of the explained that workers are like electrical appliances; if you pull out the plug (stop their salary payments) they stop working. Who knew.
10:30:30 <laplink> Actually I shouldn't joke.
10:30:39 <bjoern_> Does that also apply to pulling the plug out of female workers?
10:31:04 <laplink> I was || close to taking ver as PHB for this group in the middle of a strike.
10:32:23 <laplink> Hmm. Now there's an interesting idea.
10:32:47 <laplink> Workers who displease me are punished by being required to wear a buttplug to work.
10:32:57 <laplink> Now this has potential.
10:33:24 <laplink> The diameter could be determined by the severity of the offence.
10:34:08 <bjoern_> You might end up with many naughty workers though.
10:34:11 <laplink> For the really bad cases (backtalk, subversion, demands for pay rises) one could make it a ribbed model.
10:35:40 <bjoern_> Ah, for a moment there I was thinking Microsoft may have merged BackOffice and BizTalk, but pay rise demands doesn't seem to be software.
10:40:24 <JimJibber> But won't the ones who enjoy the buttplugs just be permanently naughty?
10:42:08 <laplink> Ah, I hadn't considered that. Perhaps this idea merits further study before implementation.
10:42:42 <bjoern_> You going to experiment on yourself?
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11:25:03 <bjoern_> "Man rips off Hitler's head" - http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=62656§ionid=351020604
11:28:23 <bjoern_> "Please consider the environment before printing this email."
11:29:41 <sbp> "defenders of the plan have argued that Hitler's role in German history could not be ignored"
11:30:01 <sbp> "Italian interior ministry to fingerprint all gypsies"
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11:39:57 <Monty2> welcome, cre8radix
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11:40:52 <bjoern_> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/02/climatechange.ethicalliving
11:40:59 <phenny> bjoern_: Climate more urgent than economy, say voters | Environment | The Guardian
11:44:02 <cre8radix> heya
11:46:09 * JimJibber notes it's f'ing hot in germany today
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11:46:35 <JibberJim> it's be nice if it was a bit cooler
11:46:44 <JibberJim> but I think if I had more cash, I could live with it better :)
11:46:50 <JibberJim> so no, climate not more important
11:46:57 <bjoern_> You could buy a climate control machine.
11:47:31 <JibberJim> do you think the hotel would let me install it?
11:47:41 <bjoern_> Yes.
11:56:16 <bjoern_> I am discovering these days that my latin is much better than I thought.
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11:58:16 <bjoern_> I wonder how latin would have worked out for me if I had cheap internet back then.
11:58:36 <bjoern_> The internet of today of course, back then there probably wasn't much of use.
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12:04:15 <bjoern_> I'm all "Oh that's locative! And that's 3rd person pl, isn't it!"
12:04:56 <bjoern_> There are some people mistranslating Latin. On the Internet!!
12:05:10 <bjoern_> Like, the phrase is all "We do ..." and they turn it into "To do ..."
12:10:35 <bjoern_> Kinda like code cracking and wading through asm code.
12:18:25 <bjoern_> .wik depondent
12:18:27 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "depondent".
12:18:31 <bjoern_> .w depondent
12:18:32 <phenny> I couldn't find 'depondent' in WordNet.
12:18:35 <bjoern_> .g depondent
12:18:36 <phenny> bjoern_: http://www.spellingcenter.com/depondent
12:19:57 <sbp> I'm boycotting Latin
12:20:02 <sbp> until it's decoupled from Greek
12:20:10 <sbp> Greek is awesome, Latin is wank
12:20:25 <bjoern_> Greek is for graekos.
12:20:34 <sbp> nu?
12:21:00 <bjoern_> .wik Γραίκος
12:21:02 <phenny> "Since the time of Homer, Greeks have called themselves Hellenes (Έλληνες)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Greeks
12:21:41 <bjoern_> 'A common substitute for the term Hellene other than Romios was the term Graekos (Γραικός). This term was used often by the "Byzantines" (along with Romios) for ethnic self-identification.'
12:21:56 <bjoern_> I am not for Graekos
12:22:02 <bjoern_> Or maybe I am, pix plz
12:22:30 <sbp> how come the Greeks got so civilised when the rest of the world was a slutball?
12:23:14 <bjoern_> I do not know why everybody was having fun while the greek fucked their boys.
12:23:34 <sbp> oh come on
12:23:44 <sbp> pederasts have been around in all societies that have politicians
12:23:59 <bjoern_> And who invented politicians?
12:24:06 <sbp> the Gree... oh right
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12:26:54 * bjoern_ uses latin program, wants to quit
12:26:54 <bjoern_> [[[
12:26:58 <bjoern_> => exit
12:26:58 <bjoern_> exeo, exire, exivi(ii), exitus V INTRANS [XXXAO]
12:26:58 <bjoern_> come/go/sail/march/move out/forth/away, leave; pass (away), expire/perish/die;
12:26:58 <bjoern_> discharge (fluid); rise (river); become visible; issue/emerge/escape; sprout;
12:26:59 <bjoern_> ]]]
12:27:04 <sbp> ehheh
12:30:51 <bjoern_> It lacks a versbose mode
12:31:47 <bjoern_> it's written in Ada, so, it should be easy to add...
12:45:00 <ejot> Ada, made an database thingamajig during my first year CS studies with "that" :)
12:55:58 <sbp> .ety parsimony
12:55:58 <phenny> "1432, from L. parsimonia 'sparingness, frugality,' from pars-, stem of parsi, perf. tense of parcere 'to spare, save' + -monia, suffix signifying action or condition." - http://etymonline.com/?term=parsimony
12:56:48 <bjoern_> % words parsimonia
12:56:48 <bjoern_> parsimoni.a N 1 1 NOM S F
12:56:48 <bjoern_> parsimoni.a N 1 1 VOC S F
12:56:48 <bjoern_> parsimoni.a N 1 1 ABL S F
12:56:48 <bjoern_> parsimonia, parsimoniae N (1st) F [XXXDX] lesser
12:56:49 <bjoern_> frugality, thrift, parsimony, temperance;
12:56:58 <sbp> heh
12:58:18 <bjoern_> % meanings ~E parsimony
12:58:18 <bjoern_> abstinentia, abstinentiae N (1st) F 1 1 F [XXXBO]
12:58:18 <bjoern_> abstinence; fasting; moderation, self control, restraint; integrity; parsimony;
12:58:18 <bjoern_> apstinentia, apstinentiae N (1st) F 1 1 F [XXXBO]
12:58:18 <bjoern_> abstinence; fasting; moderation, self control, restraint; integrity; parsimony;
12:58:19 <bjoern_> parsimonia, parsimoniae N (1st) F 1 1 F [XXXDX]
12:58:21 <bjoern_> frugality, thrift, parsimony, temperance;
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13:38:29 <_bjoern> .gc μετοχη
13:38:30 <phenny> μετοχη: 617,000
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13:53:58 <_bjoern> "He is known for his Sanskrit grammar, particularly for his formulation of the 3,959 rules" - yes, that is not easily forgotten, or forgiven.
14:05:41 <olt> hey spb
14:05:53 <olt> over thought about implementing a xmlrpc server in phenny? :)
14:06:37 <olt> i love phenny btw, great work
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14:12:32 <_bjoern> UBI MONTY2 IBI DISCORDIA
14:12:34 <Monty2> OK heading to need him?
14:12:48 <_bjoern> Monty2, not now, but thanks!
14:12:50 <Monty2> first name for some food
14:13:21 <_bjoern> Hmm good question Monty2. How about cibus?
14:13:22 <Monty2> +garaiþs: 48
14:13:38 <_bjoern> Less good an idea.
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14:35:39 <sbp> olt: xmlrpc: nope!
14:35:45 <sbp> and thanks, glad you like her
14:36:49 <sbp> .wik Reductio ad Hitlerum
14:36:50 <phenny> "Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, or reductio (or argumentum) ad Nazium – dog Latin for 'reduction (or argument) to Hitler (or the Nazis)' – is a modern informal fallacy in logic." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
14:42:12 <laplink> phenny!
14:42:12 <phenny> laplink!
14:42:13 <Monty2> <SURE THIS CLICKING ANNOYING YOU LOSE ALL THE SECTOR ON KIBBLESMITHALERT LEVEL SEVENTY
14:43:15 * laplink becurses the channel to DejaVu Sans Mono 36pt…
14:43:59 <laplink> It's actually quite pretty, if pretty impractical.
14:45:26 <laplink> Now please limit your speech to short distinct sentences until further notice.
14:47:11 <sbp> kk
14:47:23 <sbp> KIBBLESMITHALERT LEVEL SEVENTY
14:47:48 * sbp eats earth foods, mainly to spite the ever foodless _bjoern
14:48:10 <sbp> spicy earth foods. omg hot
14:48:46 <sbp> I was on holiday once and down in the dining room
14:48:47 <laplink> Today being a barbecue day, I'm saving up space for tonight's feast.
14:49:10 <sbp> and some guy next to me was like a curry connoisseur or something
14:49:19 <sbp> so I'm like oh yeah? maybe I should have the curry too then
14:49:39 <sbp> and he's like oooh, I wouldn't sonny jim (I was like 15 or something), it's very hot!
14:49:52 <sbp> and I'm like well fair enough, but I wanna try it
14:50:08 <sbp> so we both tuck in, and it's pretty damn good. is fairly hot, but doesn't affect me much
14:50:30 <sbp> and by the end of the meal I'm all "yay, it was good" and he's all getting his handkerchief out and wiping his brow...
14:50:58 <sbp> never underestimate the impetuousness of youth's tastebuds
14:51:38 <laplink> Hell yeah, that age I could scarf down most anything.
14:51:39 <sbp> laplink: Tynwald Day is a Barbecue Day for you?
14:51:59 <sbp> happy Tynwald Day everybody, by the way!
14:52:10 <laplink> .wik Tynwald
14:52:10 <phenny> "Tynwald (Manx: Tinvaal), or more formally, the High Court of Tynwald (Manx: Ard-whaiyl Tinvaal) is the bicameral legislature of the Isle of Man." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tynwald
14:52:37 <sbp> it's in my calendar
14:52:43 <laplink> Also, apologies for the lag.
14:52:45 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/stuff/q/calendar
14:52:53 <sbp> your lag needs no apology
14:52:55 <laplink> I'm typing one-handed.
14:53:25 <laplink> I'm stroking my Shapiro with the other hand.
14:53:25 <sbp> [[[
14:53:26 <sbp> No epilogue, I pray you; for your play needs no
14:53:26 <sbp> excuse. Never excuse; for when the players are all
14:53:26 <sbp> dead, there needs none to be blamed.
14:53:30 <sbp> ]]] - http://shakespeare.mit.edu/midsummer/midsummer.5.1.html
14:53:34 <sbp> hehe. how far in are you?
14:54:01 <laplink> Just finished the Preface. See email for details.
14:54:14 <sbp> ah right. wasn't sure how much further you'd come on
14:54:29 <laplink> Oh, which reminds me...
14:54:55 <laplink> I'm mixing the end of Trussler and Shapiro's Preface.
14:55:16 <sbp> ah! you mean it's Trussler's you didn't like?
14:56:06 <laplink> But one of them had an excerpt from Iohnson's diary speaking of Shakespeare and blotting of lines, which was new to me.
14:56:32 <sbp> not from his diary, it's from... you know, I can't remember
14:56:36 <laplink> Well, not new; but which hadn't really registered.
14:56:40 <sbp> one of his later random essay things though
14:56:59 <sbp> it also contains an alternative reading of a bit in Julius Caesar
14:57:08 <laplink> Something not meant for publication and only escaped after he expired.
14:57:34 <_bjoern> Hehe, NATO now studying what the soviets did when they lost in afghanistan.
14:57:34 <sbp> really? I think you might be muddled
14:57:38 <_bjoern> nu
14:57:51 <laplink> Anyways, unless that was in Shapiro, that's a plus for Trussler that I neglected to include.
14:58:02 <sbp> here we go: http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/drama/jonson1.html
14:58:33 <laplink> quite possible (muddled)
14:59:00 <_bjoern> 12 days and maybe an hour or two and I'll have all my stuffs near Halligen.
14:59:21 <laplink> ugh, your quote or my quote is bad.
14:59:44 <sbp> _bjoern: with a telephoto lens you could RULE THE MIRAGIC WORLD
15:00:02 <sbp> laplink: Jonson? pretty sure my quote is right
15:00:11 <sbp> it's in EKC II too
15:00:49 <laplink> Hang on, I'm switching from lazing-about to research mode here.
15:00:54 <sbp> hehe
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15:14:45 <laplink> Details sent.
15:15:11 <sbp> kthx!
15:16:07 <laplink> In any case; either Trussler fucks up the quote without marking his fuckup, or your uvic.ca page above does in a msileading way.
15:17:22 <laplink> And while Trussler concurs that it's from Timber, he does claim that work was published postumously (he implies that was deliberate; it wasn't itended for public release. he may be wrong.)
15:20:21 <sbp> what's the disparity between them?
15:20:46 <sbp> @@ must check the context behind Timer's publication
15:20:57 <_bjoern> This is a terrific discussion, I'm so excited!
15:21:33 <_bjoern> Curious that this is a featured article in the en version
15:21:34 <_bjoern> .wik Paragraph 175
15:21:35 <phenny> "Paragraph 175 (known formally as §175 StGB; also known as Section 175 in English) was a provision of the German Criminal Code from 15 May 1871 to 10 March 1994." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph_175
15:21:53 <laplink> Trussler leaves out the Caesar bit, for one thing.
15:22:18 <sbp> hmm. I figured that was the next paragraph after what he quoted
15:22:25 <sbp> though he might've put in a silent ellipsis
15:22:30 <sbp> either way, only one way to settle it!
15:22:32 <sbp> -> EEBO!
15:22:48 <laplink> Yeah, Google Books doesn't have full text of Timber! :-(
15:23:35 <_bjoern> .gs timber makes me *
15:23:36 <phenny> timber makes me *: think (2), jealous (2)
15:24:04 <_bjoern> .gc * * *
15:24:05 <phenny> * * *: 0
15:24:09 <_bjoern> I get 2
15:24:26 <_bjoern> all youtube vids
15:24:37 <sbp> ...EEBO doesn't have *any* Jonson!
15:24:40 <sbp> that can't be right at all
15:24:49 <_bjoern> .g * * * 0..999999
15:24:50 <phenny> _bjoern: No results found for '* * * 0..999999'.
15:25:16 * sbp tries Johnson
15:25:23 <sbp> nope. hmm!
15:25:31 <sbp> failtastic?
15:25:41 <_bjoern> .gc +the
15:25:42 <phenny> +the: 15,690,000,000
15:26:19 <_bjoern> The other day I found an alternative to 0..9999... that worked with the wrapper thing phenny is using now
15:26:25 <_bjoern> but i forgot what it was
15:26:39 <_bjoern> also, 0..99999... gives less than three billion all the time
15:26:39 <sbp> weird. when I search manually it finds loads of Jonson works
15:26:45 <sbp> but when I use the Author field, it does not
15:27:12 <_bjoern> Oh I think it might have been this
15:27:21 <_bjoern> .gc "A OR B OR C OR D OR E OR F"
15:27:22 <phenny> "A OR B OR C OR D OR E OR F": 25,270,000,000
15:27:25 <_bjoern> .gc A OR B OR C OR D OR E OR F
15:27:26 <phenny> A OR B OR C OR D OR E OR F: 25,270,000,000
15:27:31 <_bjoern> phunnies.
15:29:24 <laplink> Bah. Snippet view is useless!
15:33:38 <sbp> yeah
15:33:46 <sbp> still failing to wring EEBO into some sense
15:36:14 <sbp> about ready to concede
15:36:20 <sbp> really could do with the Cambridge set...
15:38:08 <sbp> laplink: https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/html/1807/4350/displayprose4688.html?prosenum=12 appears to be full text
15:40:43 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted "Excerpt from Jonson's Timber" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/63302
15:42:44 <nslater> .title http://www.ckan.net/
15:42:47 <phenny> nslater: CKAN - Comprehensive Knowledge Archive Network - Home
15:42:56 <nslater> "CKAN—Comprehensive Knowledge Archive Network. Aims to be the “Debian of data”, with apt-get style tools for installing datasets. Presented at Open Tech 2008 by Rufus Pollock."
15:43:12 <_bjoern> skari
15:43:58 <_bjoern> It's THE source for historical knowledge?
15:49:50 <sbp> Timber's quite good
15:53:14 <laplink> Ah, yes. Much better that.
15:55:19 <nslater> sbp: I would like a SOAP endpoint in phenny, fwiw
15:58:27 <_bjoern> the logo is great http://badvista.fsf.org/
16:05:15 <sbp> nslater: heh, heh
16:05:33 <sbp> TAKE AWAY VISTA'S TOYS
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16:06:25 <Monty2> howdy, panni_
16:19:59 <sbp> laplink: any guess about who the line 673 part is about?
16:20:05 <sbp> Swinburne thought it was autobiographical
16:20:09 <_bjoern> .wik DejaGnu
16:20:10 <phenny> "DejaGnu is a framework for testing other programs." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaGnu
16:21:42 <laplink> Context?
16:22:41 <sbp> in Timber
16:22:56 <sbp> 673-692
16:24:29 <laplink> Sounds like Greene or Marlowe.
16:24:52 <sbp> he comments very disapprovingly on Marlowe just a short way above
16:24:56 <sbp> but it couldn't be either, I think
16:25:06 <sbp> they both died very young in Jonson's career; before he was known
16:25:13 <laplink> It'd match Shaks except he's notoriously averse to “sport” if anecdotal evidence is to be believed.
16:25:15 <sbp> he was still presumably a bricklayer at the time of their deaths
16:25:26 <laplink> Ah.
16:26:01 <sbp> (actually, not disapproving as such I think; I think he's saying Marlowe was too opaque, but very good once mined)
16:26:43 <laplink> In the same way he thinks Shaks some times too verbose, and prone to accidental illogic in his phrase.
16:30:13 <sbp> maybe, though you'd figure he'd then use him as an example instead of Marlowe
16:30:45 <sbp> I think Shakespeare was actually fairly good at that: he wrote for high and low quite well
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16:31:03 <sbp> then again, Marlowe seemed quite good too
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16:31:05 <Monty2> welcome, melbel
16:31:13 <nslater> WELCOME MELBEL
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16:49:53 <Monty2> lo laplink
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17:39:32 <deltab> Doctor Who finale starting now
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17:56:11 <tobbez> it's the finale? omg!
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18:44:03 <sbp> pretty good that
18:44:10 <sbp> first half was watchable, second half was excellent
18:45:05 <_bjoern> If it's canceled, it might become sufficiently retro for me to watch.
18:47:16 <_bjoern> .gc "GNU/Win32"
18:47:16 <phenny> "GNU/Win32": 82,200
18:55:43 <_bjoern> http://webkit.org/blog-files/squirrelfish.png http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/images/archer.jpg
18:59:41 <_bjoern> So I just read "in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni" backwards.
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19:06:40 <_bjoern> http://www.ioccc.org/1987/westley.c
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19:52:36 <_bjoern> calc (25 * 4 * 6 - 1) / 6
19:52:36 <Monty2> _bjoern: 99.83333333333333
19:53:38 <_bjoern> So the latest CPAN upload should land me in the top 20 in my liga, Kwalitee-wise.
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20:02:05 <_bjoern> lolly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_OS#Quotes
20:19:37 <thelsdj> i'm pissed i got another build failure due to missing Inline::MakeMaker even now that its listed in my META.yml build_requires
20:20:33 <_bjoern> The other day I got a failure because someone managed to install libwww-perl without the URI package
20:20:46 <thelsdj> i'm tied for #1 in my liga :)
20:21:21 <sbp> _bjoern: lols at the lolly
20:21:22 <_bjoern> It's a more difficult if you agreed to apply bug fixes to very old other people's software, because they do perl no more
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20:21:33 <_bjoern> +lot
20:22:00 <_bjoern> But then #1 is 18 people in my liga, so top 20 is not too bad
20:22:37 <_bjoern> can't quite beat the guy with 96 (!) dists and 99.9 score
20:24:22 <thelsdj> why couldn't you?
20:25:00 <_bjoern> CSS::SAC has *a lot* of pod coverage problems
20:25:08 <_bjoern> not going to fix those
20:25:31 <_bjoern> and just fixing the README in another dist won't get me far enough.
20:25:49 <thelsdj> you have to actually pass the pod coverage? not just test them? i guess i haven't see what failed tests do in cpants
20:26:18 <_bjoern> cpan testers send you test failure mails, and the fails are listed on the cpan page for the module
20:26:44 <thelsdj> yea so would be annoying to maintain something that has lots of failures
20:26:56 <sbp> man, Swinburne is funny
20:26:58 <_bjoern> yeah, worse than not being #1
20:27:06 <_bjoern> .wik Swinburne
20:27:07 <phenny> "A place: Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne, Australia" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swinburne
20:29:46 <sbp> .wik Algernon Swinburne
20:29:47 <phenny> "Algernon Charles Swinburne (April 5, 1837 – April 10, 1909) was a Victorian era English poet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algernon_Swinburne
20:29:59 <sbp> he also wrote criticism
20:30:06 <sbp> which is what I'm reading now
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20:30:12 <sbp> everybody knows his poetry
20:30:20 <_bjoern> I'd also like to be funny post hum.
20:30:31 <sbp> post hum?
20:30:57 <_bjoern> .w posthumously
20:30:57 <phenny> I couldn't find 'posthumously' in WordNet.
20:31:01 <sbp> aha
20:31:02 <_bjoern> .w posthumous
20:31:02 <phenny> posthumous a. 1: Occurring or coming into existence after a person's death.
20:33:10 <_bjoern> New on CPAN "Data-HashArray-1.0 -- An array class of hashes that has magical properties via overloading and AUTOLOAD."
20:37:58 * Arnia is curious
20:38:19 <Arnia> I wonder what GCSE English teaches people these days actually
20:46:46 <_bjoern> Are makefiles computer programs?
20:50:05 <Arnia> Yes
20:50:32 <_bjoern> So makefile syntax is a programming language?
20:50:49 <Arnia> yep... not a particularly robust or pretty one, but yes
20:50:55 <_bjoern> turing complete?
20:51:20 <Arnia> Irrelevant (Epigram isn't Turing-complete)
20:51:49 <_bjoern> there is no context to my question
20:52:02 <_bjoern> so, it cannot be irrelevant
20:53:21 <Arnia> It is irrelevant in the context of asking whether it is a programming language, which is the context I thought you were using :/
20:54:10 <_bjoern> I was just asking independent question. I just found it curious to see them described as "computer programs". I never thought about whether that's an accurate characterization.
20:54:26 <_bjoern> I agree that you can be a programming language without being turing complete.
20:54:51 <_bjoern> Although it is difficult to avoid turing completeness, in my experience.
20:56:29 <Arnia> As I said, Epigram manages it :)
20:58:16 <Arnia> Interesting language Epigram... one of the purest expressions of the Curry-Howard isomorphism I've ever seen. You write your programs by writing theorems about them. The interpreter then guides you in proving those theorems by writing a program which constructs the thing the proof is talking about
20:59:10 <_bjoern> Sounds mathematical.
20:59:11 <Arnia> As the type-system is inordinately more powerful than the modified HM system of Haskell, the interpreter can basically do most of that job itself. It is only when you need to clarify things that you must step in
20:59:34 <Arnia> Yes, it is. It isn't meant for general use, but rather to demonstrate what you can do with dependently typed systems
21:00:32 <Arnia> Another strand of work on Constructive Type Theory (CTT) and its relatives — the Grammatical Framework — aims to show that you can give an interpretation of large sections of natural language in terms of dependent types
21:00:52 <Arnia> I imagine a successor project to both of these projects will aim to bridge that gap
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21:09:25 <_bjoern> ahaha "morituri nolumus mori"
21:32:01 * deltab reads about Epigram
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21:46:22 <_bjoern> .w penitent
21:46:23 <phenny> penitent n. 1: (Roman Catholic Church) a person who repents for wrongdoing (a Roman Catholic may be admitted to penance under the direction of a confessor)
21:46:24 <phenny> penitent a. 1: Feeling or expressing remorse for misdeeds.
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23:01:20 <_bjoern> lolly http://www.nypost.com/seven/07042008/news/regionalnews/samaritan_thief_alerts_cops_to_terror_va_118416.htm
23:01:31 <_bjoern> hakware left before I could yo him
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23:05:23 <Arnia> deltab: what do you think of it so far?
23:08:18 <deltab> haven't read enough about it yet
23:11:00 <Arnia> Fair enough
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23:32:59 <Enki-2> plum: flirt with deltab
23:33:37 <_bjoern> nu flirt with deltab
23:47:55 <earle> Is Monty a good flirt?
23:47:58 <Monty2> morning all lowercase characters or suck, and realise it's stlodgy
23:48:19 <_bjoern> In a way, Monty2 is a good flirt.
23:48:20 <Monty2> would probably
23:48:31 <_bjoern> In other ways Monty2 is a bad one.
23:48:32 <Monty2> LIEK EVERYTHANG MAN
23:48:36 <_bjoern> Choose your own path.
23:48:44 <_bjoern> true Monty2
23:48:44 <Monty2> : (
23:49:02 <_bjoern> Yes Monty2 but such is most of life
23:49:03 <Monty2> incredibly expensive
23:49:13 * _bjoern nods
23:51:05 <_bjoern> ahaha Post Coitum Omne Animal Triste Est
