00:05:05 <_bjoern> .wik R (programming language)
00:05:05 <phenny> "The R programming language, sometimes described as GNU S, is a programming language and software environment for statistical computing and graphics." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language)
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01:36:58 <_bjoern> phenny, tell sbp http://www.itnews.com.au/News/79785,us-rebate-cheques-spent-on-porn.aspx
01:36:58 <phenny> _bjoern: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
01:36:59 <_bjoern> .title
01:37:06 <phenny> _bjoern: US rebate cheques spent on porn - Internet - iTnews Australia
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02:56:20 <d8uv> sup
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03:05:24 <zachb> When does sbp get on, usually?
03:06:49 <d8uv> .seen sbp
03:06:49 <phenny> d8uv: I last saw sbp at 2008-07-09 20:23:50 UTC on #swhack
03:07:07 <d8uv> so, sometime before 20:23 UTC
03:07:19 <d8uv> perhaps 20:22?
03:07:25 <d8uv> 20:21??
03:18:34 <zachb> Wait, isn't that when he was *last* on, so
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03:56:00 <zachb> .calc 1000pf in uf
03:56:01 <phenny> 1000pf in uf = 1000 pf -> uf uf
04:05:16 <d8uv> I made a new blog
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05:08:09 <jsled> phenny: tell d8uv I would like to know what his new blog is made of.?
05:08:09 <phenny> jsled: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around.
05:09:20 <jsled> Also: etsy can suck my cock.
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08:20:20 <nslater> remind me in 3 hours to talk to sbp about licences
08:20:35 <nslater> NO MONTY
08:20:38 * nslater grumbles
08:21:05 <nslater> hmm, wait, am I the first to speak this morning, that's a first
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09:04:18 <sbp> yo
09:04:19 <phenny> sbp: 01:36Z <_bjoern> tell sbp http://www.itnews.com.au/News/79785,us-rebate-cheques-spent-on-porn.aspx
09:04:29 <nsh> involuntary restarts is not the cool
09:04:35 <sbp> heh, heh
09:04:38 <sbp> hellos
09:04:44 <nslater> hey sbp
09:04:46 <nsh> how is go?
09:05:13 <sbp> go is GOOD
09:05:19 <sbp> d8uv has a new blog, and I'm inning on it
09:05:25 <sbp> on the other hand, there's bad news
09:05:34 <sbp> Gordon Brown is not sending us out any porn cheques
09:05:36 <sbp> yo nslater
09:05:39 <nsh> whuh
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09:05:53 <nsh> he is the run out of moneybeans?
09:05:54 <sbp> phenny: tell _bjoern ugh, Gordon Brown never sends *us* any porn cheques!
09:05:55 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when _bjoern is around.
09:05:57 <sbp> yeah, must be
09:06:01 <nsh> jessica, find gordon brown's moneybeans!
09:06:02 <jessica> ooh, sbp.
09:06:07 <jessica> ...
09:06:25 <jessica> It's called venture capital. It'll be a good exercise in learning how to fabricate PowerPoint presentations for him.
09:06:37 <nsh> d8uvian bloginmem locartion?
09:06:38 <sbp> ehwhatnow?
09:06:48 <sbp> nsh: er dunno yet, haven't attended to ye email
09:06:59 <nsh> i think she means we should apply for funding from one a dem first world countries in the far easy
09:07:02 <nsh> *east
09:08:25 <jessica> Just say you're writing an academic article that involves the exploitation of women in societies where they aren't given the same opportunities as men.
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09:08:45 <sbp> woah, good idea
09:09:03 <nsh> dunno, i've kinda milked that franchise
09:09:06 <jessica> "See, here we see this particular young lady, who appears to be between 14 and 17 years of age by our calculations, being exploited by 3 members of the patriarchy at once. They are, however, supplying her with nutrients. Now, the average street value of food is x per calorie ..."
09:09:14 <sbp> nsh: yeah but, man, maybe we could set up an institute for it
09:09:21 <nsh> aaaah
09:09:23 <sbp> and the address would turn out to be an old abandoned warehouse somewhere
09:09:31 <nsh> hrm
09:09:34 <nsh> i had a dream this morning
09:09:41 <sbp> with "INSTITUTE FOR THE EXPLOITATION OF THE DISTAFFERY" spray painted in purple on the side
09:09:44 <nsh> about trying to navigate an 18 wheeler through old abandoned warehouses
09:09:53 <nsh> because someone had closed the road and we were escaping something or other
09:09:54 <jessica> nsh tell your girlfriend to do a few more Kegels.
09:10:01 <jessica> I think this is one of those ... metaphorical dreams.
09:10:03 <sbp> with blue teardrops falling from it, morphing into the female astrology Venus symbol
09:10:48 <nsh> was a strange dream
09:10:56 <nsh> any dream with an exorcism is strange
09:13:03 <sbp> only if you're exorcising the fairies out of candyfloss
09:13:11 <sbp> and the fairies are like "lol, okay, game is up we know"
09:13:20 <jessica> The only experience I can think of in my life that both involved the sensation of an 18 wheeler driving through something *and* the need for an exorcism was unmedicated childbirth.
09:13:22 <nsh> i don't know if it would taste the same sans fairy
09:13:40 <sbp> yeah, probably not
09:13:44 <nsh> jessica, yeah it's pre-lunch in finland, thanks
09:14:09 <jessica> And now it's not! It's the antithesis of lunch!
09:14:35 * nsh muses on this
09:15:13 <jessica> oh, nsh, I had a query for you, too.
09:15:54 <nsh> it better run in O(n)
09:16:09 * jessica doesn't get the reference.
09:25:02 <nsh> .wik Big-O
09:25:03 <phenny> "Big O notation, asymptotic behavior in mathematics and computing" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-O
09:25:47 <nsh> time/space expense of a calculation can be, for example, O(n) -- grows linearly with size of query, or O(n^2), or O(2^n), etc.
09:25:49 <nslater> where did n5h go?
09:27:01 <nslater> haha, got netsplitted and never came back!
09:29:04 <sbp> gone to the great bit bucket in the sky?
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09:29:54 <cre8radix> YO!
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09:30:56 <nslater> n5h: ex luna sapientia!
09:30:57 <n5h> to be wealthy? ew. people are really cool
09:32:00 <jessica> n5h you just earwormed me with that damn Discovery Channel commercial. I damn you by the grace of the Furies.
09:32:01 <n5h> but the gedanken was originally to compare the unbounded utility of information
09:33:26 <jessica> my husband just commented, "I've noticed that since you've rejoined #swhack, you stopped sleeping at night."
09:33:49 <jessica> Yes. The terrible secret is out. I've been using #swhack to communicate with my cocaine dealer.
09:39:07 <sbp> n5h: you been dealin' cocaine again manslice?
09:39:08 <n5h> for if they leave you, they will not be possible to replicate it at nominal cost with what might happen if science enabled free energy production (removed energy scarcity). then we got into
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09:39:18 <sbp> yo cre8radix
09:39:20 <sbp> d8uv!
09:39:26 <sbp> d8uv: answer: YES SBP IN
09:39:36 <d8uv> YES WHOO
09:39:36 <phenny> d8uv: 05:08Z <jsled> tell d8uv I would like to know what his new blog is made of.?
09:39:37 <nsh> d8uv, newblogiswhere?!
09:39:40 <d8uv> sup sbp
09:39:52 <sbp> just hangin'. chillin'. little bit of illin'
09:39:56 <d8uv> http://ohgodinternet.tumblr.com
09:40:14 <d8uv> sbp might join us
09:40:23 <sbp> no, I *will* join you
09:40:32 <sbp> that's what this meant -> <sbp> d8uv: answer: YES SBP IN
09:41:07 <d8uv> joining us means doing very stupid things then publically announcing that you do stupid things
09:41:16 <d8uv> and you so don't do that
09:41:27 <sbp> I'll just make stupid things up
09:41:54 <jessica> How did you go from full-scale "YOUR MOM SUCKS MY DICK" trolling to serious discussions of pica in two posts?
09:42:01 <jessica> (pica: http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1798.htm )
09:43:17 <d8uv> that is how we roll
09:43:18 <sbp> yeah, good blog
09:43:26 <sbp> I'll try not to screw it up
09:43:32 <sbp> or, rather, try to screw it up as much as possible
09:43:36 <sbp> which is how not to screw it up
09:43:39 <d8uv> it's literally impossible to screw it up
09:44:05 <d8uv> we here at d8uv industries like to start at rock bottom
09:44:15 <sbp> well I could start posting about the gestalt philosophy of Alfred Tennemann, giving an insightful critique into the various nuances of his thought
09:44:24 <d8uv> that way, we don't have to improve at all
09:44:27 <sbp> but then I guess you'd just intersperse them with dongs so it'd still be funny
09:44:33 <d8uv> yeah
09:44:42 <sbp> the unbreakable weblog
09:45:03 <d8uv> We'd just do a quick s/Alfred/Some big gay guy/g
09:45:08 <sbp> hehe
09:45:09 <nsh> Things That Could (Greatly) Benefit from the Interspersal Thereamongst of Dongs
09:45:11 <sbp> Dr. Cocks
09:45:20 <jessica> d8uv: I challenge you. Get a feminist guest blogger talking about marginalisation of women in the field of health care, another who honestly believes that UUCP is the future of the Internet and then someone who's taken a DNA test to discover that they *were* the person in the family who had sex with the dog and then blamed it on their Ambien prescription.
09:45:42 <d8uv> Not related to Dr Cox, who is, in fact, a giant Cock.
09:45:42 <sbp> d8uv: IT'S A TRAP!!
09:45:54 <jessica> If I have learned anything in my 26 years on this Earth, it is that *anything* can be fucked.
09:45:59 <sbp> right. Dr. Cocks is a thoroughly nice cha[p
09:46:03 <jessica> Perhaps not easily, perhaps not quickly, perhaps not well.
09:46:06 <jessica> But ANYTHING can be fucked.
09:46:31 <sbp> are concepts things?
09:47:00 * nsh puts on his concept fangs
09:47:00 <jessica> Are you asking me or the world at large, sir?
09:47:05 <sbp> you
09:47:09 <sbp> ㋡
09:47:24 <nsh> I VAANT TO OCCUPY YOUR MENTATIONS!
09:47:31 <d8uv> oh god the idea that correct morals lie directly between two opposing extremes, ala Aristotle's Doctrine of the Mean, makes me soo hard
09:47:34 * nsh should really do some work
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09:47:59 <sbp> what. where the hell did you pull that from?
09:48:03 <sbp> since when did you know stuffs?
09:48:15 <d8uv> what
09:48:19 <d8uv> i just made that up
09:48:30 <sbp> awesome
09:48:44 <d8uv> way to go sbp, assuming that i know things
09:48:51 <jessica> Concepts are definitely things. You spent much of your school holidays fucking concepts, perhaps three or four concepts at a time. All concepts can be simulated to the degree necessary to fuck them.
09:48:55 <sbp> well I always fear it might happen one day
09:49:04 <cre8radix> d8uv!
09:49:06 <cre8radix> :D
09:49:12 <cre8radix> sbp!
09:49:17 <sbp> cre8radix: yeah, he returned!
09:49:18 <sbp> <3
09:49:21 <cre8radix> >:)
09:51:05 <sbp> woah. Lindsey just welcomed me to tumblr
09:51:34 <sbp> ah, here we go. alright
09:51:37 <sbp> so I should post something
09:51:55 <sbp> something for the brainbunnies of interested rapted readers everywhere
09:52:45 <jessica> Post about the upcoming rapture.
09:53:02 <jessica> where only those who can say the Lord's prayer backwards only substituting every mention of Hashem with Dongs will be saved.
09:54:06 <sbp> nu
09:54:24 <jessica> I'se a jus' tryin' to haip!
09:55:02 <d8uv> made you admin
09:55:09 <d8uv> so you can do stuff
09:55:37 <d8uv> anything you want to do, actually. just remember: no new admins
09:55:46 <d8uv> and that's it
09:57:17 <sbp> d8uv: http://ohgodinternet.tumblr.com/post/41728405/sbp-speaking
09:58:25 <d8uv> so awesome
09:58:41 <sbp> fffffffffffffff
09:58:57 <d8uv> why are you so obsessed with the ffffffffffffffffff
10:00:39 <sbp> well it's like Pee Wee Herman. you watch it every day for a year and you fall in love with that man, and then you hear that he was arrested for feeling up some kid in a movie theatre in Dallas or something and you scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the silent cold night
10:01:07 <sbp> I forget where the analogy is going, but I'm pretty sure it's like Pee Wee Herman somehow
10:02:24 <d8uv> are you saying that i feel kids up in movie theaters in dallas?
10:02:37 <d8uv> Because I don't live even near texas.
10:02:40 <sbp> only if you are Pee Wee Herman!
10:02:48 <d8uv> Hell, I never go to movies either!
10:02:54 <sbp> ALSO BACK IN A BIT
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10:22:56 <d8uv> I did stuff ohgodinternet
10:24:59 <jessica> I should get co-author credit.
10:25:24 <jessica> or at least be referred to as your muse.
10:28:12 * d8uv goes back to reading about Vaseline
10:32:19 <sbp> attention: I have returned
10:32:25 <nslater> wb
10:32:56 <sbp> lols at stuff
10:33:02 <sbp> ty nslater
10:33:40 <nslater> "On July 26, 1991, Reubens was arrested in Sarasota, Florida for masturbating publicly in an adult theater during a screening of Nurse Nancy. The"
10:34:02 <sbp> .wik Nurse Nancy
10:34:03 <phenny> "Nurse Nancy is an adult film by Director F.J. Lincoln released in 1991 by Caballero Studio." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_Nancy
10:34:41 <nslater> wtf
10:35:13 <nslater> [[[
10:35:13 <nslater> "The DA waited 364 days (one day before the statute of limitations would have run out) and then alleged that some of it was 'child pornography' — decades-old physique poses, old art photos, and yellowed nudist magazines. Some of the nude photos were of minors — when the pictures were taken many years ago. All of the photos, Reubens maintained, were legal when they were first published. The charges were reduced to 'obscenity', and Reubens pleaded ...
10:35:20 <nslater> ... guilty and paid a US$100 fine in exchange for probation."
10:35:22 <nslater> ]]]
10:35:23 <sbp> DIRECTED BY LINCOLN
10:35:55 <d8uv> Nightdreams remains the best porn I've ever seen
10:36:08 <sbp> .wik Nightdreams
10:36:10 <phenny> "Jasmine Nightdreams is a solo studio album by the Edgar Winter." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine_Nightdreams
10:36:11 <nslater> I don't think I've ever watched a porno
10:36:24 <sbp> "Jasmine Nightdreams is a solo studio album by the Edgar Winter."
10:36:30 <sbp> oh, right, that was the excerpt
10:36:43 <d8uv> http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/03/youll-never-loo.html
10:36:53 <sbp> "Both Edgar and Johnny have albinism."
10:36:55 <d8uv> Seriously, watch it
10:37:36 <sbp> [[[
10:37:36 <jessica> clearly, d8uv, you haven't seen The Opening of Misty Beethoven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Opening_of_Misty_Beethoven
10:37:37 <sbp> This film was a groundbreaking porno in that it was actually made to be - well - art! What there is for a story involves a woman in a mental institution who is sexually insane and whose dreams are being monitored by a pair of doctors. This is the springboard for all kinds of surreal sexual shenanigans - none of which are all that sexy. To that end it makes porno movie watchers unhappy, but they tend to start out unhappy anyway, so who cares.
10:37:38 <sbp> ]]]
10:38:57 <sbp> [[[
10:38:57 <sbp> Asking her name, the heroine of the film answers: "Misty Beethoven". "Your real name?" - "No, it's not, but I think it sounds more important." "What's your real name?" - "Dolores Beethoven".
10:38:58 <sbp> ]]]
10:39:02 <d8uv> Jessica: Does your porn show a woman blowing a cheerful box of Cream of Wheat while a piece of Wonder Bread dance spastically behind her while playing the saxaphone?
10:39:39 <jessica> Sir, friends purchased it on a whim at a stag party that was taking place in Tampa, Florida in an airport hotel. I saw all of fifteen seconds before I shielded my eyes and retired to the bedroom of the suite we'd taken.
10:40:04 <jessica> I watch porn for a very specific reason. Porn with a plot hurts my brain.
10:40:57 <sbp> to blackmail the actors who went on to have "reputable" careers?
10:41:00 <jessica> I would agree that porno movie watchers are unhappy it's because either they can't manage to masturbate to success over the course of a 90 minute film or because they already reached orgasm and just continue to watch it.
10:41:14 <nsh> who was the character from Peanuts that prefaced her sentences with Sir, ?
10:41:24 <jessica> I have known a few folk who will watch a porn after they've reached orgasm, and they frighten me.
10:41:38 <jessica> I don't know, but she was the minion of Peppermint Patty.
10:42:05 <jessica> Marcie.
10:42:10 <d8uv> yeah, I was going to chastize Jessica for calling me, of all people, sir. But, the joke I made during wasn't funny, so I didn't
10:42:11 <nsh> well, in my head, you are the her now
10:42:18 <JibberJim> perhaps they want another orgasm?
10:42:44 <nsh> JibberJim, everyone knows it's physically impossible to have more than one orgasm within 24 hours
10:42:52 <jessica> nsh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpallan/2612757532/ should you need to revise that image.
10:43:08 <jessica> JibberJim, during the refractory period, why would you watch?
10:43:34 * nsh smiles
10:43:52 <nsh> .gs if thine * cause thee to sin
10:43:54 <phenny> if thine * cause thee to sin: No results!
10:44:02 * nsh frowns
10:44:04 <JibberJim> To shorten the period and maintain an appropriate mental state.
10:44:11 <nsh> .gs if thine eye *
10:44:13 <phenny> if thine eye *: offends (19), offend thee (10), offend (5), which seeth (3), surveys (3), hath (3), doth (3), causeth (3), be evil thy (3), should grow dim (2)
10:44:15 <sbp> compare: http://www.snoopy.com/comics/peanuts/meet_the_gang/images/meet_marcie_big.gif
10:44:43 <jessica> My hair's brown, not black, sorry to say.
10:44:53 <jessica> also, I don't smile.
10:45:12 <jessica> I find reflexive smiling insincere and hypocritical.
10:45:24 * nsh likes that there are no photos outside the auspices of the bed
10:45:25 <JibberJim> Not even a "secret smile" ?
10:45:37 <jessica> nsh: sure, there are. just go through the stream.
10:45:51 <jessica> of course, Jim, those I have when I'm thinking of something for myself.
10:45:52 <nsh> oh, i just checked the top one which stopped
10:46:04 <jessica> But I refuse to smile simply because someone told me to.
10:46:16 <d8uv> i did and... you'll hate me, but you look kinda like how I think Cartman would look like if he were real
10:46:39 <jessica> If I wanted to do as I was told, I'd have a job and at least take away some compensation.
10:46:57 <jessica> I thank you, Cody. That's the most honest statement I've ever heard out of anyone in reaction to my appearance.
10:48:50 * nsh was vaguely reminded of someone less animated, but couldn't place who
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10:48:58 <cre8radix> d8uv: cps - live
10:49:00 <cre8radix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnasrDMCUnI
10:49:38 <jessica> nsh: I often get told I have "puppy dog eyes" which tends to contribute to the general ambience of my appearance.
10:50:01 <d8uv> cre8radix: that's excessively funky
10:50:04 <nsh> you mean, unable to open?
10:50:11 * nsh never understood that phrase
10:50:16 <cre8radix> :D
10:50:24 <nsh> having been mostly free from puppies his whole life
10:50:33 <jessica> no. puppy dog eyes are large and dark.
10:50:42 <sbp> BLACK LIKE THE FIRES OF HELL
10:51:11 <jessica> sbp: crschmidt's been confiding in you again, hasn't he?
10:51:14 <d8uv> poor sbp isn't pottytrained
10:51:16 <sbp> hehe
10:51:32 <cre8radix> so, d8uv, whereyabeen?
10:51:33 <Talliesin> Hey jessica. Long time.
10:51:53 <jessica> So it has been, Talliesin! How have you been keeping?
10:52:10 <Talliesin> Grand.
10:52:25 <d8uv> You know that thing called Second Life?
10:52:30 <nslater> <3
10:52:36 <sbp> d8uv: I tried to join the other day
10:52:42 <sbp> but there's some arse going on somewhere
10:52:46 <sbp> probably firewall
10:53:00 <Talliesin> I'm busy as all hell now, but holidays in a few days.
10:53:03 <Talliesin> Hmm.
10:53:19 <sbp> .gc arseistry
10:53:20 <Talliesin> How far back do I have to go for "how have I been keeping".
10:53:21 <phenny> arseistry: 0
10:53:31 <Talliesin> Was I still married when last we chatted?
10:53:43 <jessica> No idea. I'm married these days.
10:53:51 <Talliesin> I heard that.
10:53:51 <jessica> hold on a second, to figure out how long, Chris makes these marks on the wall, you see.
10:54:05 * nsh co{ngratul¦misser}ates Talliesin
10:54:18 <Talliesin> I will be re-married year after next too.
10:54:39 <jessica> 398 days.
10:54:42 <nsh> .ety commiserate
10:54:43 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "commiserate". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=commiserate
10:54:50 <Talliesin> late year after next :)
10:54:53 <nsh> .ety commiseration
10:54:54 <phenny> "1585, from L. commiserationem 'act or fact of pitying,' from commiserari 'to pity,' from com- intens. prefix + miserari 'bewail, lament,' from miser 'wretched.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=commiseration
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10:55:10 <jessica> Congratulations to you on securing for yourself, I am sure, a lovely bride.
10:55:29 <jessica> I find the most secure procedure is to file for divorce once you've decided who the next candidate in marriage shall be.
10:56:08 <Talliesin> I can't file for divorce yet, Irish law requires a relatively long separation period.
10:56:34 <Talliesin> Hence the relatively far-off date, though I know from experience that weddings need lots of practice
10:56:50 * Jibbler will go for the money saving option of not bothering :)
10:56:51 <Talliesin> And she is indeed a lovely bride, and for that matter she is very often secured ;)
10:57:16 <d8uv> so what brand of buckles and ropes do you recommend?
10:57:20 * JibberJim notes that weddings intelligently planned can be profitable.
10:57:23 <jessica> Cotton clothesline.
10:57:28 <jessica> Leaves a mark that lasts about two hours.
10:57:33 <jessica> but softens easily.
10:57:35 <jessica> and quite cheap.
10:57:41 <Talliesin> Ribbon. It's pretty but has a very high tensile strength.
10:57:44 <jessica> and you can get artistic with it.
10:57:55 * Jibbler appears to have accidentally stumbled into #bondage
10:58:00 <sbp> d8uv: kevlar thread
10:58:00 <Talliesin> You have to be careful about circulation with ribbon though.
10:58:11 <jessica> no, no, d8uv is just planning his own leisure activities.
10:58:16 <nsh> what sort of criminal planning's going on herenow?
10:58:21 <sbp> unbreakable. they'll never get out
10:58:23 <Talliesin> Mostly I just depend on having someone obedient enough that I don't need to tie her.
10:58:24 <jessica> Just sadomasochism.
10:58:33 <jessica> Nothing to see here.
10:58:35 <nsh> ah, how common
10:58:40 <jessica> Isn't it, though?
10:58:51 <jessica> Really, it's this generation's group sex.
10:59:06 <jessica> I wonder what the next generation's old-meme-but-we-discovered-it sex shall be.
10:59:09 <jessica> Probably the missionary position.
10:59:12 <nsh> food
10:59:24 <nsh> and other pastables
10:59:49 <jessica> True, but the sheets become terribly untidy.
10:59:52 <d8uv> I dunno, even money's on tantric
11:00:33 <JibberJim> wasn't this weeks savage love about watching guys wank - I reckon that's a good bet - follow the indicators of people who are asking for help...
11:00:37 <jessica> Tantric-Sex Class Opens Up Whole New World Of Unfulfillment For Local Couple -- http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29127
11:00:44 <nslater> woah, wtf http://web.meson.org/swhack/seeswhackmap.php
11:01:06 <jessica> I've not been on there in years.
11:01:11 <jessica> or more specifically, ever.
11:01:21 <nslater> nsh is huuuge
11:01:35 <nsh> WINNNAAARR
11:01:47 * nslater hands nsh internet
11:01:51 <sbp> OS X. can't reach random hosts
11:01:54 * nsh spins it on point
11:01:55 <sbp> traceroute fails on first hop
11:01:58 <sbp> any ideas, anyone?
11:02:11 * nsh read that report in "dying soldier over coms link"
11:02:27 <sbp> kpreid? xover? jsled?
11:02:27 <nsh> you know, a little like shatner
11:02:29 <nsh> but more pain
11:02:35 <sbp> Arnia? deltab?
11:02:55 <nsh> sbp, i suspect ur isp is just borkened
11:03:28 <cre8radix> d8uv: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTtlr5PfQcI&feature=related
11:03:32 <cre8radix> .title
11:03:33 <phenny> cre8radix: YouTube - CPS at Videomusic (1992!?)
11:03:46 <cre8radix> old school
11:04:02 <sbp> 'failure_message="""Can't reach first ISP hop. Go have a beer."""'
11:04:03 <sbp> - http://geekinacan.net/
11:04:14 <sbp> nsh: no, this works on another box using the same router
11:04:21 <sbp> so it must be an OS X problem
11:05:04 <sbp> and it doesn't work in Safari either, so it can't just be a browser problem
11:06:24 <nsh> hmmm
11:06:38 <nsh> can traceroute to ip addresses?
11:06:43 <nsh> might be resolving problems
11:06:54 <jessica> okay.
11:07:00 <nsh> Dns resolved google.com to 72.14.207.99
11:07:01 <jessica> have reached point in sleep deprivation where I begin to hallucinate.
11:07:09 <jessica> now what's next?
11:07:17 <jessica> I refuse to drive in this state, but other than that I'm up for experimentation.
11:07:19 <nsh> spin around really really fast for 5 minutes
11:07:29 <nsh> while hyperventilating
11:07:34 <nsh> or, maybe don't
11:07:45 * nsh disclaims responsibility
11:09:00 <kpreid> sbp: sorry, no instant solutions
11:09:22 <jessica> I weep. #swhack used to be *infected* with a general sense of antisocial personalities who were having fun with the pain of others. Some parts of the Internet are a cry for help. Other parts are joyful celebrations of a fully developed psychosis.
11:09:54 <jessica> That's not my original thought, that's Kibo's.
11:09:56 <nsh> yeah, it's the general sense of crshmidt's antisocial personality that informs my decision
11:10:12 <nsh> with another c in there somewhere
11:10:28 * nsh smiles
11:10:41 <jessica> You evil, evil, evil descendant of Vikings. I *like* you.
11:10:46 * jessica wanders off. cold shower time.
11:11:54 * d8uv passes pit
11:12:13 * d8uv also passes *out*
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11:24:50 <sbp> nsh: as I say, failure first hop
11:24:58 <sbp> $ traceroute 64.92.170.181
11:24:58 <sbp> traceroute to 64.92.170.181 (64.92.170.181), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
11:24:58 <sbp> 1 * *^C
11:25:07 <sbp> $ ping 64.92.170.181
11:25:07 <sbp> PING 64.92.170.181 (64.92.170.181): 56 data bytes
11:25:07 <sbp> ^C
11:25:07 <sbp> --- 64.92.170.181 ping statistics ---
11:25:07 <sbp> 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
11:25:41 <nsh> weird
11:26:15 <sbp> must be some major lolscrewage somewhere...
11:26:31 <nsh> injeed
11:26:32 <sbp> probably rebooting would fix it
11:26:36 <sbp> BUT WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO!
11:26:42 <sbp> eh, I'll do it anyway
11:26:45 <nsh> least you get given the choice mang
11:26:49 * sbp plays tab-whack-a-mole first
11:27:40 <kpreid> sbp: have you seen if the Network Diagnostic app says anything worthwhile?
11:28:22 <kpreid> (it probably won't)
11:28:33 <sbp> let's see...
11:28:37 <sbp> nsh: [[[
11:28:37 <sbp> Do you live in the United Kingdom? Then your money is worth twice what ours is! You are basically always on a shopping spree when considering any American product. Also, the United States does not provide its citizens with health care, so by shopping with us you are supporting an emerging nation, which is noble.
11:28:44 <sbp> ]]] - Achewood Shop Newsletter
11:28:57 * nsh chuckles
11:30:14 <sbp> kpreid: nope
11:30:21 <nsh> .ety dorsal
11:30:22 <phenny> "1541, from M.Fr. dorsal, from L.L. dorsalis, from L. dorsualis 'of the back,' from dorsum 'back,' of uncertain origin." - http://etymonline.com/?term=dorsal
11:30:23 * sbp continues whack-a-tab
11:30:23 <nsh> .ety ventral
11:30:26 <phenny> "1739, from Fr. ventral, from L.L. ventralis 'of or pertaining to the belly or stomach,' from L. venter (gen. ventris) 'belly, paunch,' from PIE *wend-tri- (cf. L. vesica 'bladder,' Skt. vastih 'bladder,' O.H.G. wanast, Ger. wanst 'paunch, belly')." - http://etymonline.com/?term=ventral
11:30:31 <jessica> ...
11:30:38 <sbp> .wik Rawlinson Excidium Troie
11:30:39 <phenny> "The Rawlinson Excidium Troie ('The War of Troy'), discovered among the manuscripts collected by Richard Rawlinson (1690-1755)[1]| conserved in the Bodleian Library, Oxford, is unique in that it contains the only medieval account of the Trojan War that is fully [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawlinson_Excidium_Troie
11:30:40 <jessica> Chris just looked at IRC and said, "Man, they're *still* talking."
11:30:51 <sbp> we're always talking and shit
11:31:06 <sbp> since July 2001, in here
11:31:08 * chris2 needs to adjust his nick highlighting
11:31:17 <sbp> hehe
11:31:37 <sbp> .wik Dictys Cretensis
11:31:37 <phenny> "Dictys Cretensis, (Dictys of Crete), alleged to have been of Knossus in Crete, was the legendary companion of Idomeneus during the Trojan War, and the purported author of a diary of its events, that deployed some of the same materials worked up by Homer for the Iliad." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictys_Cretensis
11:32:40 <sbp> .head http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/
11:32:41 <phenny> sbp: 403, text/html, iso-8859-1, 202 bytes
11:32:48 <nsh> the talking never stops
11:34:02 <jessica> Herr Schmidt is turning into a Tory here.
11:34:11 <sbp> .wik Tory
11:34:12 <phenny> "In the political tradition of some English-speaking countries, the term Tory has referred to a variety of political parties and creeds since it was used in the late 17th century to describe opponents to the Whigs." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory
11:34:20 <sbp> aw man, don't oppose the Whigs
11:34:25 <sbp> the Whigs are all cool and shit
11:34:26 <Monty> potty mouth!
11:37:07 <jessica> "Are you for or against Whigs, Mr. Schmidt?" "I don't know. Never researched it. I do like your breasts, though."
11:38:26 * nsh smiles
11:39:00 <nsh> .wik Metaball
11:39:01 <phenny> "Metaballs, sometimes referred to as 'blobbies', are, in computer graphics terms, organic-looking n-dimensional objects." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaball
11:39:07 <nsh> ah
11:39:58 <sbp> this shit is bananas
11:41:09 <sbp> ALRIGHT. REBOOTS
11:44:24 <sbp> actually, might as well do a software update first...
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12:16:33 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's danieljohnlewis!
12:17:45 * danieljohnlewis is now called Beelzebub according to the Monty bot
12:17:45 <Monty> ---
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12:38:34 <sbp> SO GUESS WHAT
12:38:36 <sbp> reboot didn't work
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12:41:45 * sbp kicks his router... that fixed it!
12:42:25 <sbp> thanks for halps kpreid and nsh
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12:43:03 * nslater frokes sbp
12:43:21 <sbp> ônoez̈
12:56:18 <clsn> sbp: U seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvY-fAjftxk
12:56:23 <sbp> .title
12:56:25 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - That Mitchell and Webb look - se2 Explorers
12:56:28 <sbp> ugh
12:56:32 <sbp> I hate Mitchell and Webb
12:56:45 * sbp prepares The Friend ̈№3
12:57:11 <clsn> I think my brother knows someone who is involved in it, which is the only way I found out about it, so I had no biases coming in.
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13:09:50 * Morbus completes 1959.
13:10:25 <sbp> .ety influence
13:10:26 <phenny> "c.1374, an astrological term, 'streaming ethereal power from the stars acting upon character or destiny of men,' from O.Fr. influence 'emanation from the stars that acts upon one's character and destiny' (13c.), also 'a flow of water,' from M.L. influentia 'a flowing [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=influence
13:17:09 * Arnia boings
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13:21:04 <Morbus> sbp: http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/roadbf-martin/
13:21:07 * Morbus sighs.
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13:25:48 <sbp> ooh, it's like Jesus toast
13:26:36 <Morbus> did you see the face to the left of it too?
13:26:38 * Morbus giggles.
13:26:49 <sbp> hmm, nope
13:26:50 <Monty> mobibot: currency 220 CDN to follow the aircon
13:27:24 <Morbus> sbp: http://feast-or-fa.mine.nu:325/~morbus/Picture%203.png
13:27:57 * sbp squints... :-)
13:30:21 <nsh> low resolution subliminal menacingness
13:30:38 <nsh> is connexion still fux0red?
13:33:14 <_bjoern> .wik Simonym
13:33:14 <phenny> _bjoern: 09:05Z <sbp> tell _bjoern ugh, Gordon Brown never sends *us* any porn cheques!
13:33:15 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Simonym".
13:34:40 <_bjoern> They sell anon mobile phone sim cards. Now T-Mobile accused them of aiding preparations of terrorist acts, and they lack the money to fight that in court.
13:34:54 <_bjoern> no en news about it that I could find, yet, unfortunately.
13:35:44 * Arnia snorks
13:36:24 <_bjoern> ""Shrink ray" hits consumers' wallets" - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25570106/
13:36:58 <nsh> who's they, _bjoern?
13:37:09 <_bjoern> Simonym
13:37:34 <Arnia> .title http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=402641&c=1
13:37:37 <phenny> Arnia: Times Higher Education - They come not to teach
13:37:55 <nsh> i thought everwhere sold anonymous sim cards these days
13:38:34 * _bjoern ponders asking Who is everywhere
13:40:20 <nsh> Mitchell and Webb is muffwank indeed, sbp
13:40:39 <nsh> guffcack too
13:42:34 <sbp> guffcack muffwank: good description
13:42:47 <sbp> nsh: connection fix0red by router reboot!
13:43:11 <_bjoern> .gc "penis in a bottle"
13:43:12 <phenny> "penis in a bottle": 4,410
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13:45:57 <nsh> sbp, sljuperb
13:46:13 <nsh> was probably cache-fullinated
13:46:19 <sbp> okay, issue three of The Friend is online
13:46:21 <sbp> .title http://inamidst.com/coleridge/friend/
13:46:21 <phenny> sbp: Coleridge Corner | Works | The Friend
13:46:27 <sbp> thanks to a prod from nslater...
13:46:48 <nsh> oh man, cattle-prod would be a good facebook/physical application
13:47:03 <nsh> anyone who sends you inanity gets the leccy
13:47:11 <sbp> I would guess there already is a cattle-prod on Facebook
13:47:37 <nsh> but it doesn't electrocute the inanityhosts
13:47:42 <nsh> memewhoriors
13:47:49 <nsh> dumbvectors
13:49:55 * sbp publishes a page about The Brook too
13:49:59 <_bjoern> "A Japanese labor bureau has ruled that one of Toyota's top car engineers died from working too many hours" - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25607064/
13:50:22 * nsh offinates to the beach
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13:50:55 <_bjoern> .gc "Less bang for more bucks"
13:50:56 <phenny> "Less bang for more bucks": 256
13:51:51 *** sbp changed the topic to: "*** nsh has quit ("the balls don't volley themselves")"
13:52:06 <_bjoern> .gcs +alptraum albtraum
13:52:07 <phenny> +alptraum (2,090,000), albtraum (1,180,000)
13:52:08 <zachb> They do sometimes
13:52:30 <_bjoern> The proper response would have been "perhaps yours don't"
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14:04:16 * Arnia is relieved
14:04:50 <Arnia> Imperial have received the application email, so for once the Durham mail server has managed to route an email successfully :p
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14:14:20 <Morbus> sbp: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7499469.stm
14:14:30 <nslater> .title
14:14:32 <phenny> nslater: BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Famed Roman statue 'not ancient'
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14:15:45 <sbp> heh
14:16:17 <Morbus> my filter for "ancient greek wolf teat" pinged me that this morning.
14:16:46 <Morbus> obviously, it is smart enough to know that roman and greeks were slightly related.
14:17:39 <sbp> [[[
14:17:39 <sbp> US civil rights leader the Rev Jesse Jackson has apologised for "regretfully crude" remarks he made about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.
14:17:39 <sbp> In a reference to Mr Obama, Mr Jackson had said on US Fox News: "I want to cut his nuts off", not knowing his comments were picked up by a live microphone.
14:17:45 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7498995.stm
14:17:51 <nslater> hahaha
14:19:00 * Arnia sends nslater a badger
14:19:04 <nslater> \o/
14:22:11 <sbp> .ety backgammon
14:22:12 <phenny> "1645, baggammon, the second element from M.E. gamen, ancestor of Mod.E. game; the first element because pieces are sometimes forced to go 'back.' Known 13c.-17c. as tables." - http://etymonline.com/?term=backgammon
14:22:16 <sbp> aha
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14:22:48 <Arnia> Hm. Interviews will happen in the next couple of weeks apparently
14:25:10 <procto> A badger!!
14:35:09 <xover> sbp: That's not traceroute stopping at the first hop, that's you aborting traceroute before it gets a chance to try the second hop.
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14:35:37 <Monty> hi danieljohnlewis, how ya doing?
14:36:40 <Arnia> Hm. http://www.computer.org/portal/cms_docs_ieeecs/ieeecs/education/cc2001/cc2001.pdf
14:36:51 <xover> Traceroute works by sending a packet with the “Time To Live” flag set to 1 (monotonically increasing per up up to ~30 hops) and then waiting for an ICMP “Time To Live Exceeded” error message getting returned.
14:37:21 <xover> And it'll usually (depending on the speccific implementation) try each hop three times.
14:38:09 <xover> All you've really discovered with the test you pasted earlier is that the first hop — that is, your loal broadband router/modem — twice failed to send back an error message within the timeout interval.
14:38:40 * Arnia now sees why Traceroute is such a bandwidth hog
14:39:14 <xover> To the point, if your router blocks all incoming ICMP (possibly just that specific type of ICMP) then you'll never see any hops with traceroute, but you can open TCP sessions no problem.
14:40:07 <xover> Your biggest challenge will be dealing with Path MTU Discovery and MSS issues (which can some times make it look like a particular remote site is inaccessible or down).
14:41:15 <xover> Also, there's a DNS issue in Leopard that makes it fail to resolve some domains (xkcd was quirky for me), which looks like a connectivity issue, but this was fixed in 10.5.4 (IIRC).
14:42:13 <xover> (The issue is actually a bug in some deployed DNS servers, but looks like a connectivity issue on the client, and Leopard tickles that bug)
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14:55:13 <sbp> xover: I tried it over several lines of "* * *" elsewhere
14:57:07 <sbp> thankfully a router reboot fixed it, at any rate
14:57:27 <sbp> strange that it wasn't affecting other boxen on the network in the same way
14:59:08 <xover> Not really.
14:59:33 <sbp> ohings?
14:59:35 <xover> The software on those things is utter shite.
14:59:41 <sbp> heh, heh
15:00:00 <xover> It probably fucked up a NAT table, or it's staefull firewall got confused, or possibly it's DHCP server.
15:00:22 <xover> its its its its
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15:08:46 <sbp> .title http://www.theweirdpost.com/wordpress/2008/06/golfers-robbed-on-the-16th-tee-continued-their-round-of-golf/
15:08:48 <phenny> sbp: Golfers robbed on the 16th tee, continued their round of golf | The Weird Post
15:09:35 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00035/moon2_35046a.jpg
15:09:38 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
15:10:50 <sbp> chuckle:
15:10:50 <sbp> [[[
15:10:51 <sbp> HAIPHONG, Vietnam - John McCain has an unusual endorsement — from the Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a POW and now considers him a friend.
15:10:51 <sbp> "If I were an American voter, I would vote for Mr. John McCain," Tran Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners.
15:10:53 <sbp> At the same time, he denies prisoners of war were tortured. Despite detailed POW accounts and physical wounds, Duyet claims the presumed Republican presidential nominee made up beatings and solitary confinement in an attempt to win votes.
15:10:57 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25418965/
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15:14:10 <sbp> [[[
15:14:10 <sbp> When asked by the Pope to demonstrate his artistic skill, 14th century Italian painter Giotto di Bondone supposedly drew a perfect circle freehand and said: "That's more than enough." Now, an international group of engineers and craftsmen has gone him one better and built a pair of nearly perfect spheres that are thought to be the roundest objects in the world.
15:14:15 <sbp> ]]] - http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn14229-roundest-objects-in-the-world-created.html
15:16:50 <nslater> humans are weird
15:16:51 <phenny> nslater: 15:09Z <sbp> tell nslater http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00035/moon2_35046a.jpg
15:17:05 <nslater> eeerm, what?
15:17:21 <nslater> sbp: plsexplain
15:17:37 <sbp> [[[
15:17:37 <sbp> LONDON - A British high school student received credit for writing nothing but a two-word obscenity on an exam paper because the phrase expressed meaning and was spelled correctly.
15:17:37 <sbp> ADVERTISEMENT
15:17:37 <sbp> The Times newspaper on Monday quoted examiner Peter Buckroyd as saying he gave the student — who wrote an expletive starting with f, followed by the word "off" — two points out of a possible 27 for the English paper.
15:17:38 <sbp> "It would be wicked to give it zero because it does show some very basic skills we are looking for, like conveying some meaning and some spelling," Buckroyd was quoted as saying.
15:17:43 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/britain_exam_expletives;_ylt=AvPQGrHM_PKfp6_2gmrOTDvtiBIF
15:17:47 <sbp> nslater: they're moonbathing!
15:19:05 <nslater> wat
15:19:53 <nslater> "Buckroyd said the student would have received a higher mark if the phrase had been punctuated."
15:19:56 <nslater> oh man
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15:22:41 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's lordi!
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15:24:59 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7489457.stm
15:25:00 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Wales | Police say UFO was just the Moon
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15:26:29 <cre8radix> hrhr
15:27:53 <sbp> [[[
15:27:53 <sbp> A teenager was stunned to find that a baby bat had been curled up inside her bra for five hours - as she was wearing it.
15:27:53 <sbp> Abbie Hawkins, a hotel receptionist, thought her mobile phone was ringing when she felt vibrations coming from her clothes.
15:27:53 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2266900/Teenager-finds-baby-bat-in-her-bra.html
15:29:20 <chandler> pics plz
15:29:27 <chandler> of the bat of course
15:30:20 <sbp> chandler: see the page
15:30:30 <sbp> oh man. this is the craziest story so far:
15:30:33 <sbp> .title http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1032758/Pictured-The-moment-unsuspecting-shopper-attacked-hungry-seagull.html
15:30:35 <phenny> sbp: Pictured: The moment an unsuspecting shopper is attacked by a hungry seagull | Mail Online
15:30:58 <sbp> the Mail is getting really desperate, apparently
15:31:46 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/also_in_the_news/7493256.stm
15:31:49 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Also in the news | Porn appears on rugby programme
15:32:39 <sbp> okay... what the fuck?
15:32:40 <sbp> [[[
15:32:41 <sbp> AN ABERDEEN receptionist received a shock yesterday after discovering a wild bat in her trousers while travelling to work.
15:32:41 <sbp> Nineteen-year-old Anna Buchan, from Holburn Street, Aberdeen, was being driven to her job at SMS at Dyce by her mother when she realised something was wrong.
15:32:45 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/727797?UserKey=0
15:33:07 <jsled> Wait, two hidden bat stories?
15:33:30 <sbp> yeah!
15:34:16 <clsn> Bats are getting around.
15:34:21 <jsled> Also, the seagull thing is clearly staged. Look how far out she's putting her thing. She was asking the seagull to do it.
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15:35:56 <sbp> jsled: well I was wondering what the dude was doing photographing a chick walking down the road with food at random
15:36:04 <sbp> I mean, he starts snapping before the food gets taken
15:37:16 <nslater> oh man, I just rediscovered how hawt Sophie Ellis-Bextor is <3 <3 <3
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15:37:33 <sbp> pix plz
15:37:53 <nslater> well, download the video of Groovejet from iTunes, she's heart meltingly cute
15:38:15 <nslater> that's what I just did, at random, and I'm on like the third play through! :p
15:38:40 <clsn> "Leistner, who has been creating precision spheres for decades, considers these final two to be his masterpieces.
15:38:40 <clsn> "
15:38:52 <clsn> And what does your daddy do? He makes precision spheres. Um, why?
15:39:23 <sbp> [[[
15:39:24 <sbp> The American leader, who has been condemned throughout his presidency for failing to tackle climate change, ended a private meeting with the words: "Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter."
15:39:24 <sbp> He then punched the air while grinning widely, as the rest of those present including Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy looked on in shock.
15:39:30 <sbp> ]]] - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2277298/President-George-Bush-%27Goodbye-from-the-world%27s-biggest-polluter%27.html
15:40:40 <clsn> I can't help thinking that it would be easier to make a precision cube than a precision sphere. But then the corners might break off I guess.
15:43:38 <Arnia> hah... "Unlike the notorious Regency eccentric John "Mad Jack" Mytton, Davis does not have a pet giraffe that joins him for Sunday lunch via a trapdoor in his dining room.
15:43:48 <Arnia> "Nor does he employ an ornamental hermit to live in his garden, like 18th-century landowner Charles Hamilton, who forbade the man to cut his beard or nails, leave the grounds, talk to the servants or wear anything other than a camel-hair robe."
15:43:55 <Arnia> — http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/07/10/fteccentric110.xml
15:44:01 <sbp> awesome
15:44:32 <sbp> I want an ornamental hermit
15:48:04 <sbp> [[[
15:48:05 <sbp> Mr Bush also faced criticism at the summit after Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian Prime Minister, was described in the White House press pack given to journalists as one of the "most controversial leaders in the history of a country known for government corruption and vice".
15:48:05 <sbp> The White House apologised for what it called "sloppy work" and said an official had simply lifted the characterisation from the internet without reading it.
15:48:06 <sbp> ]]]
15:49:28 <clsn> IT'S THE INTERNET'S FAULT!!
15:58:47 <_bjoern> .title http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23991257-25717,00.html
15:58:47 <phenny> _bjoern: Doomed to a fatal delusion over climate change | Herald Sun
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16:02:20 <_bjoern> .ety hide
16:02:20 <phenny> "O.E. hydan, from W.Gmc. *khuthjanan, from PIE *keudh- (cf. Gk. keuthein 'to hide, conceal'), from base *(s)keu- 'to cover, conceal' (see hide (n.1))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=hide
16:02:21 <Monty> Dale Chavez?!
16:02:22 <_bjoern> .ety conceal
16:02:23 <phenny> "1292, from O.Fr. conceler 'to hide,' from L. concelare 'to hide,' from com- 'together' + celare 'to hide,' from PIE base *kel- 'to hide' (see cell)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=conceal
16:02:34 <_bjoern> .ety question
16:02:34 <phenny> "c.1300, from Anglo-Fr. questiun, O.Fr. question 'legal inquest,' from L. quæstionem (nom. quæstio) 'a seeking, inquiry,' from root of quærere (pp. quæsitus) 'ask, seek' (see query)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=question
16:05:46 <_bjoern> Apple: "adTunes too similar to iTunes, rename!"
16:08:15 <_bjoern> .ety vanish
16:08:16 <phenny> "1303, from aphetic form of stem of O.Fr. esvanir 'disappear,' from V.L. *exvanire, from L. evanescere 'disappear, die out,' from ex- 'out' + vanescere 'vanish,' from vanus 'empty' (see vain)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=vanish
16:08:16 <_bjoern> .ety seclusion
16:08:17 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "seclusion". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=seclusion
16:08:29 <_bjoern> .ety seclude
16:08:30 <phenny> "1451, 'to shut up, enclose, confine,' from L. secludere 'shut off, confine,' from se- 'apart' (see secret) + -cludere, variant of claudere 'to shut' (see close (v.))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=seclude
16:08:39 <_bjoern> seclude!
16:12:22 <Arnia> abclude!
16:12:42 <Arnia> claudicate!
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16:13:43 <_bjoern> desiste!
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16:26:52 <Arnia> There are some cool iPhone apps on the app store atm
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16:28:57 * Arnia needs to find something to prove his address
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16:29:36 <sbp> take a picture of yourself pissing out of your letterbox
16:30:47 <_bjoern> Or your neighbours to prove their address instead.
16:31:47 <Arnia> I particularly like the idea of using http://www.flashmybrain.com/iphone.php to quickly capture bits of books
16:31:56 <Arnia> Or the Evernote iPhone app for that matter
16:36:00 <xover> I don't suppose any of you lot are running Fedora inside a Parallels Desktop virtual machine?
16:36:12 <xover> Or, hell, any Linux distro.
16:37:11 <_bjoern> Try ubuntu in msvpc?
16:37:30 <_bjoern> I'd raise my hand in that case.
16:37:49 <xover> This is on the Mac.
16:38:01 <_bjoern> This is far away from Mac.
16:41:32 <zachb> This is eating a Mac
16:42:34 * bancus is sad that Evernote won't run on Tiger.
16:42:54 <bancus> I'm going to try to convince my boss to buy Leopard when he gets back from his trip.
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16:51:15 <sbp> [[[
16:51:16 <sbp> In 2007, when an admirably idiosyncratic architect in London trimmed his front hedge into the shape of a whale, he was asked to remove it by the local council; they felt it endangered passing pedestrians.
16:51:17 <sbp> ]]]
16:51:34 <Morbus> ahahaha.
16:51:34 <phenny> Morbus: 15:23Z <sbp> tell Morbus http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080702/sc_livescience/whywesavestuff;_ylt=AkbSLeeCwqOzFXTymYGO2BcPLBIF
16:51:37 <phenny> Morbus: 15:25Z <sbp> tell Morbus see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031062/Faceless-aliens-spotted-crowd-Wimbledon.html and then http://www.telegraph.co.uk/digitallife/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/07/04/dlfaceless104.xml
16:54:51 <Morbus> i wouldn't mind one of those masks.
16:55:02 <sbp> would be quite handy
16:55:11 <sbp> well, facey
16:55:23 <jsled> Better than a ski mask, I'd think.
16:55:34 <jsled> For, you know, robbing places. And knocking over old ladies.
16:55:44 <Morbus> yeah, but skimasks have a purpose.
16:55:58 <Morbus> these things don't. (i mean, just as an item/accessory; ignore the viral part for now)
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17:19:03 <Arnia> Hm. That one is interesting. A shopping list manager which uses Core Location to learn where shops are and prompt you to buy the right things at the right shop
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18:04:02 <_bjoern> sbp, www.swhack.com is broke (not swhack.com).
18:09:38 <_bjoern> Subject: Obama recommends Power Enlarge
18:14:44 <chandler> "it's true, it helped me satisfy my wife after Jesse Jackson cut my nuts off"
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18:27:43 <Monty> yo jessica!
18:27:53 * jessica feeds Monty a botsnack.
18:27:54 <Monty> Heh... that about..
18:36:08 <procto> why hasn't anyone euthanized jesse jackson yet...
18:36:59 <jessica> Be fair. He's probably the foremost master of American rhetoric. Listening to him speak, even if you don't agree with a word that comes out of his mouth, is amazing.
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18:42:19 <jessica> I do find it very amusing that he announces his candidacy so easily and fluidly, largely because he knows he'll never secure a major party nomination with his platform ideas.
18:42:50 <ja> political parties suck
18:42:55 <zachb> jessica: a good botsnack, eh?
18:42:59 <zachb> ja: ja
18:43:03 <ja> zachb did you write jessica?
18:43:40 <jessica> I've never corresponded with the gentleman in question.
18:43:43 <zachb> what about it?
18:44:03 <zachb> I went jess<tab>
18:47:02 <procto> jessica: I have never been able to be fired up by any of the great speakers... perhaps it's the slightly lean towards asperger's
18:47:11 <procto> slight*
18:49:21 <jessica> procto, I can empathise, sir. I have auditory processing disorder with partial deafness and no end of problems of my own in that respect. However, I'd heard the Reverend Jackson speak years before I was injured and lost a good bit of my hearing, so I automatically reflect that glory unto him, even if I practically need a transcriber so I can keep up with him.
18:49:39 <jessica> But he, of the modern American speakers, epitomises all we have learned about rhetoric since Demosthenes.
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18:59:55 <procto> jessica: well, the mere appreciation of a master of the craft won't override my disdain for how he uses it
19:00:55 <xover> The two are not mutually exclusive.
19:01:03 <jessica> Certainly, but I can appreciate his mastery of the art without finding the product pleasing.
19:01:31 <xover> Oh admit it, you're an adherent!
19:01:43 <xover> And good morning, btw.
19:01:56 <jessica> For instance, I hear there is much to admire about the work of Le Corbusier but that doesn't change my long lasting affection for buildings that look like, say, buildings.
19:02:01 <jessica> It doesn't make him less of a master of his craft.
19:02:09 <procto> certainly
19:02:18 <jessica> Then we are in agreement, sir.
19:02:22 <jessica> Good evening, xover. :)
19:02:57 <xover> No no no! Let's you and him fight!
19:05:45 <jessica> May I remind you that while I may bear the name of one of the Suevii, I myself am not one? :P
19:06:58 <_bjoern> you may not.
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20:04:49 <xover> Stupid Foglio! Write moar faster!
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20:46:07 <clsn> .title http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,553070,00.html
20:46:09 <phenny> clsn: Members Only: The Annual Phallus Festival in Greece - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
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21:04:43 <_bjoern> I urge you to kiss my model phallus
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21:10:13 <clsn> .title http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,33196,00.html
21:10:14 <phenny> clsn: Photo Gallery: Erotic Furniture - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
21:10:20 <clsn> The first picture isn't interesting, but others are.
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21:10:30 <clsn> Ooog, that's serious.
21:10:31 <phenny> IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 42, in dumpReminders)
21:11:30 <_bjoern> I can do chan op thingies to her if it gets worse.
21:11:31 <phenny> ...
21:11:53 <d8uv> phenny: tell sbp you're broken
21:11:53 <phenny> d8uv: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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21:12:26 <saml> phenny got too much fat
21:12:27 <phenny> IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device (file "/var/www/inamidst.com/htdocs/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 42, in dumpReminders)
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21:14:42 <jsled> nice.
21:15:12 <_bjoern> Now she stopped?
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21:22:10 <jeanniecool> Howdy, y'all.
21:22:23 * jeanniecool pokes around tentatively for sbp
21:22:24 <_bjoern> Hello jeanniecool, welcome to swhack.
21:22:30 <jeanniecool> SeanB, you here?
21:22:41 <_bjoern> he'll be around in ~ 9 - 10 hours.
21:23:14 <jeanniecool> Phenny seems a little under the weather.
21:23:38 <jeanniecool> howby, _bjoern. Been here before, but not for aaaaaages. :-)
21:25:27 <_bjoern> We noticed that :-)
21:25:34 <jeanniecool> Okay. :-D
21:25:54 <jeanniecool> Just makin' sure it wasn't just for us over there. <points>
21:25:59 <_bjoern> It's quite difficult to miss really... He'll fix it when he gets up again.
21:26:06 * _bjoern nods
21:26:15 <jeanniecool> I'm sure he will. He's good like that. ;-)
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22:45:29 <jsled> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%93%E2%96%88%E2%96%93%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%84%E2%96%88%E2%96%84%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%91%E2%96%92%E2%96%93%E2%96%92%E2%96%91%E2%96%92+%E2%96%91%E2%96%93%E2%96%88%E2%96%88%E
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22:45:42 <jsled> Aw. Heh heh.
22:45:52 <jsled> http://tinyurl.com/6rnn3g
22:45:54 <jsled> :p
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22:59:16 <jsled> Hmm. You can make QR codes with google chart API http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=http://swhack.com/
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23:19:17 <xover> @jsled++
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23:28:27 <Monty> Thank goodness, MacTed is back!
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