2008-07-12 Swhack IRC Log

00:05:26 <zachb> Awesome
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00:05:41 <zachb> jsled: no fair, I was about to share that!
00:05:50 <zachb> (well, I saw it before I came in the room)
00:06:34 <zachb> gotta go potty!!!
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00:17:37 <zachb> http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/11/subwoofer-makes-cornstarch-dance/
00:17:37 <zachb> Awesome
00:18:47 <zachb> It looks like something out a sci-fi movie
00:20:17 <|bjoern|> http://www.whatnowtoons.com/images/wn_072_color.jpg
00:23:17 <zachb> clever
00:24:15 <|bjoern|> Okay this I laughed about http://www.whatnowtoons.com/images/wn_070_color.jpg
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00:24:29 <zachb> but its not funny?
00:24:35 <|bjoern|> Primarily because of MJ
00:24:47 <|bjoern|> I would never laugh about something that's not funny
00:24:56 <|bjoern|> except when doing so is most inappropriate.
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00:31:26 <|bjoern|> culinarily speaking, I recommend mixing cooled apple juice with bottled polish bison grass
00:32:37 <|bjoern|> phenny, tell sbp RFC 2396 has a uric production. I just encountered that at dict leo org. lolz? sbp(yah).
00:32:37 <phenny> |bjoern|: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
00:32:41 <|bjoern|> thanks phenny
00:33:59 <|bjoern|> Looking at http://www.whatnowtoons.com/images/wn_063_color.jpg I recall I should practise speaking in a monotonic robotic voice.
00:34:22 <|bjoern|> trust me trust me trust me trust me trust me is a kindacool mantra also.
00:57:09 <|bjoern|> well, she's almost attractive on this one http://www.whatnowtoons.com/images/wn_050_color.jpg
01:06:37 <|bjoern|> We need to have more foreigners here to keep the channel alive at night
01:06:54 <|bjoern|> with many of us having messed up sleep cycles, that would come in handy.
01:07:33 <|bjoern|> .gcs "first against the wall" "second against the wall" "third against the wall"
01:07:35 <phenny> "first against the wall" (72,400), "second against the wall" (2,200), "third against the wall" (108)
01:07:59 <|bjoern|> We don't plan sufficiently far enough into the future.
01:10:31 * Arnia fiddles around with addressbook
01:10:59 <|bjoern|> phenny, de "Sowohl die Gewerkschaftszugehörigkeit, als auch Daten zum Sexualleben und Informationen zur Rasse oder ethnischen Herkunft einer Person können in Ausnahmefällen von Relevanz für die Bekämpfung des internationalen Terrorismus sein."?
01:11:00 <phenny> |bjoern|: "Both the trade union membership, as well as data on the sex life and information about racial or ethnic origin of a person may, in exceptional cases of relevance to the fight against international terrorism." (de to en, translate.google.com)
01:11:05 <|bjoern|> (cf our parliament)
01:11:19 <|bjoern|> (http://www.bundestag.de/aktuell/hib/2008/2008_207/04.html)
01:12:44 <Arnia> I find this a little creepy: http://www.myliferecord.net/
01:13:14 <Arnia> 'Share your ultrasound movies, xray images and more with your family by touching an icon on your screen'
01:13:21 <Arnia> How touching :p
01:14:15 <|bjoern|> I'd like to `phenny, tell cre8radix Ich merken: mein grammatiekn schlecht wenn nicht unwenig alkohol. dein auch? ich fragen nur.` but I won't.
01:14:30 <|bjoern|> .wik Gravis Ultrasound
01:14:30 <phenny> "Gravis Ultrasound or GUS is a sound card for the IBM PC compatible system platform, made by Canada-based Advanced Gravis Computer Technology Ltd. It was very popular in the demo scene in the 1990s, due to its superior sound quality compared to similarly-priced [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravis_Ultrasound
01:15:07 <|bjoern|> hey don't move the channel while I'm trying to read the backlog.
01:17:03 <|bjoern|> .wik pombo
01:17:04 <phenny> "Harry 'Pombo' Villegas, Cuban revolutionary" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pombo
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01:18:33 <jessica> [[[
01:18:37 <jessica> On "Swingtown," the character of Janet Thompson accidentally stumbles across the rumpus room -- I know what it's like to be similarly stunned.
01:18:48 <jessica> If you've ever wondered what it's like to watch your parents have sex, this was it. A room full of naked, unattractive couples, some with rolls of flesh one could get lost in, twisted into a variety of random sexual positions. Lotion was readily accessible. Next to scattered garbage cans were signs explaining their purpose: for used condoms.
01:18:49 <jessica> ]]]
01:18:54 <jessica> http://www.asylum.com/2008/06/06/3-playroom-in-the-basement/
01:18:55 <|bjoern|> Good evening jessica
01:19:14 <jessica> Good evening, sir!
01:19:22 <|bjoern|> How do you like my pipes?
01:19:43 <jessica> ... sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.
01:19:56 <|bjoern|> I always wanted to ask that in the plural form. Thanks for playing along.
01:20:31 <MacTed> ceci n'est pas une pipe.
01:20:31 <phenny> MacTed: 09 Jul 06:29Z <mhausenblas> tell MacTed re quick linked data intro: thanks and I'm gonna update it before TimBL notes my freudian slip (2006 not 1998 ;)
01:20:42 <zachb> Dammit MacTed!
01:20:49 <MacTed> yikes! that belongs over *there*
01:20:56 <zachb> Cela n'est pas une pipe!
01:21:06 <|bjoern|> Perhaps it is?
01:21:14 <zachb> N'est pas!
01:21:21 <|bjoern|> nu
01:21:26 <zachb> *n'est-ce pas
01:21:38 <zachb> nv
01:22:03 <|bjoern|> Says the zwnbsp man
01:22:09 <jessica> Je comprends que vous avez besoin de (d') une pipe, mais je ne peux pas donner une pipe à vous.
01:22:25 <zachb> :p
01:22:29 <jessica> :)
01:22:51 <zachb> "zwnbsp" looks kinda like "zachb", no?
01:22:54 <|bjoern|> Je pourrais vous donner un tuyau peut-être, mais j'ai choisi le latin, et ne parlent pas français tout.
01:23:02 <zachb> Wait, what?
01:23:11 <zachb> (@ jessica)
01:23:15 <MacTed> Voulez-vous fumez avec moi, ce soir?
01:23:26 * jessica laughs at MacTed. Good one!
01:23:29 <zachb> bjoern cheated
01:23:59 <zachb> MacTed: Mais oui! Allez-y!
01:24:03 <zachb> ;-P
01:24:16 <|bjoern|> En principe, je voudrais, mais j'ai déjà polonais de vodka.
01:24:16 <jessica> Zach, look up "une pipe" and scroll down to the second definition. :P
01:24:48 <|bjoern|> .wik Pipi Langstrumpf
01:24:50 <phenny> "Pippi Longstocking (Swedish Pippi Långstrump) is a fictional character in a series of children's books created by Swedish author Astrid Lindgren." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_Longstocking
01:24:57 <zachb> |bjoern|'s cheating
01:25:07 <zachb> jessica: look up /where/?
01:25:09 <jessica> Speaking of which, can any Francophones correct my grammar? I wasn't sure how to make donner reflexive there so I didn't have to say "à vous".
01:25:12 <MacTed> quelle domage, je boit seulement en Chelsea ce soir.
01:25:13 <|bjoern|> Of course I am, I explained that already.
01:25:38 <jessica> Zach, http://www.wordreference.com/fren/pipe ‹ scroll down a bit.
01:25:40 <zachb> I know, but you're cheating
01:25:53 <jessica> wait, who's cheating how?
01:25:56 <zachb> Holy crap
01:26:03 <zachb> |bjoern|'s using a translator
01:26:11 <zachb> He even admitted it
01:26:14 <|bjoern|> Non! Ne pas boire de Chelsea ce soir.
01:26:21 * jessica wasn't, which is why she screwed up ...
01:26:36 * zachb wasn't eithr
01:26:42 <|bjoern|> Like I said, I chose latin and speak no french at all.
01:26:48 <zachb> Yeah
01:27:00 <zachb> I know a little of both :D
01:27:07 <jessica> Anyway, Zach, now you know what to ask for next time you're speaking to a Francophone girl.
01:27:11 <jessica> I only know bits of it.
01:27:13 <|bjoern|> Well I can make sexual advances, but that's all! honest!
01:27:15 <Monty> Voulez-vous fumez avec moi, ce soir?
01:27:15 <jessica> Latin, that is.
01:27:23 <jessica> oh, lord.
01:27:29 <|bjoern|> Yes, you called?
01:27:32 <jessica> MacTed, look what you taught Monty.
01:27:35 <Monty> You don't know how to jump on shampoo >:)
01:27:36 <MacTed> *laughs*
01:27:39 <MacTed> I win!
01:27:55 <|bjoern|> So how do you jump on shampoo?
01:28:07 <MacTed> with someone else's shoes.
01:28:20 <|bjoern|> Good advice most generally.
01:28:21 <zachb> jessica: Me taillez-vous une pipe!
01:28:26 <zachb> err...not at you!
01:28:30 <zachb> I meant, that's what I say :P
01:28:36 * jessica giggles.
01:28:48 <|bjoern|> Like japanese school girl?
01:28:54 <jessica> Sir, I'm a happily married woman.
01:29:05 <|bjoern|> That's what they all say.
01:29:06 * zachb blushes and chortles
01:30:03 <zachb> Humm... actually, I think you'd have to do `Me tailles-tu une pipe!`, since its apparently familier...
01:30:38 <jessica> I personally think that one should vouvoyer their spouse and tutoyer their mistress.
01:30:52 <zachb> Heh
01:31:23 <zachb> Well, depends on what fantasy's going on ;p
01:31:26 <jessica> I also maintain that distinction with my daughters and with my parents. I tutoyer the children, they vouvoyer me. The same applies in the next generation.
01:31:40 <zachb> mm
01:31:55 * jessica is horrified at the number of men who, due to her teenaged parenthood, proclaim, "Wow, when your daughter is 15 and you're 30, it'll be *hot*."
01:32:06 <jessica> ... thanks?
01:32:08 <zachb> You speak nativly?
01:32:39 <zachb> jessica: I imagine
01:34:20 <jessica> Yes and no. I was brought up by my grandmother after age 5, who was an Acadian and predominantly spoke Acadian French to me. However, I was schooled in English and used English exclusively outside of academic and travel contexts for the next 6 years. I was then intermittently exposed to another dialect (Québecois) after my marriage, but not frequently. I use what I have often with my children, both of whom are natural
01:34:20 <jessica> linguists and actually often have better pronunciation than I do.
01:34:33 <|bjoern|> I would like to say I'm too young for this, but I am not.
01:35:14 <zachb> Heh, wow
01:35:32 <MacTed> ! Acadian Quebecois heritage here, too... by way of Maine
01:35:32 <jessica> My reception of French is great and allows me to read Webpages, novels, Wikipedia, & c. in French. It also allows me to hear French and understand about 60% of it, more than I do with English. My writing is slow but methodical and reliable, and my speech is terribly tangled due to two archaic French Canadian dialects mingling with the Hexagon French learned at school.
01:35:46 <jessica> MacTed -- my mother grew up in Caribou.
01:36:03 <MacTed> !! one of my current best friends is from Caribou
01:36:05 <jessica> Mémé was from Trois-Rivieres but I can't remember which side of the border.
01:36:25 <jessica> IIRC.
01:36:41 <jessica> But I personally haven't gone up there much. I grew up in New Hampshire.
01:37:13 <MacTed> *nods* I grew up midway between Boston and Cape Cod, on the coast
01:37:28 <jessica> yep. I live in Cambridge now. I prefer it here.
01:37:39 <zachb> :-)
01:37:57 <jessica> but yes. so I'm half-Acadian.
01:38:19 <|bjoern|> .w frist
01:38:20 <phenny> I couldn't find 'frist' in WordNet.
01:38:29 * zachb checks the boston geohash
01:38:33 <jessica> My mother lost the dialect *very* quickly, having taken all of her university studies in English and by marrying a Scot from the coast. She could barely speak to my grandmother *or* I.
01:38:39 <jessica> Zach: check under crschmidt.
01:38:58 <zachb> Heh, is it really near him?
01:39:00 * |bjoern| picked up all his dialects quickly
01:39:19 * |bjoern| picked up all his dialects *very* quickly
01:39:36 <zachb> Damn... too far this week
01:40:00 <|bjoern|> Yes. Hello zachb, welcome to Swhack. Take a Monty.
01:40:02 <Monty> Suggestions, anyone?
01:40:16 <zachb> |bjoern|: hmm?
01:40:33 <jessica> zachb: Please do a /whois on me and you can figure out how near him it is. :P
01:40:59 <|bjoern|> zachb: this is a pulically lodges channel, pay your dues here: -> _ <-
01:41:20 <|bjoern|> lodged, I wanted to write lodged.
01:41:29 <|bjoern|> Monty: ERASE
01:41:30 <Monty> am fish!
01:41:48 <|bjoern|> Monty, no you are not, and you neither control the ports.
01:41:48 <Monty> Are you saying no just to be negative?
01:41:55 <jessica> .title http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/05/16/woman-sat-dead-in-front-of-tv-for-42-years-86908-20419070/
01:41:56 <zachb> Oh right, you two are together
01:41:57 <phenny> jessica: Woman sat dead in front of TV for 42 years. - The Daily Record
01:41:57 <|bjoern|> Monty, just give up on the fish business.
01:41:58 * zachb forgot
01:41:59 <Monty> also it barf?
01:42:10 <|bjoern|> Yes it barf Monty.
01:42:13 <Monty> I reckon parking space + PokeBot = crash-helmet!!!
01:42:17 <jessica> As together as it's possible to be while my knickers are still on, Zach.
01:42:20 <MacTed> yes!
01:42:26 <jessica> Though I think at the moment, he's playing Grand Theft Auto.
01:42:29 <zachb> Wow...
01:42:30 <|bjoern|> 42 years must be a record.
01:42:32 <MacTed> damn net delay
01:42:32 <zachb> Hehe
01:42:58 <zachb> Man, a few weeks back I missed a whole row of them near places I frequent (and near me)
01:43:01 <|bjoern|> GTA 1 slash PC had weird copy protection.
01:43:30 <|bjoern|> Solution: don't frequent places (other than swhack)
01:43:43 <zachb> Clever
01:43:56 <zachb> hmm... we need an interneto-hash
01:44:20 <jessica> Missed a row of ... what?
01:44:20 <|bjoern|> 7
01:44:22 <jessica> Knickers?
01:44:30 <|bjoern|> that's the hash
01:44:34 <|bjoern|> (c) aaronsw
01:44:56 <zachb> I missed a few days in a row that had easily-reachable geohashes for me
01:45:03 <|bjoern|> You are right, I should drink more.
01:45:56 <jessica> oh, geeks, how do I love thee.
01:46:06 <jessica> http://bloggasm.com/50-nerdy-pick-up-lines
01:46:19 <|bjoern|> thx
01:46:22 <jessica> "If I was an enzyme, I¹d be helicase so I could unzip your genes."
01:46:48 <|bjoern|> those are lame
01:47:13 <|bjoern|> generally, I try to avoid pickup line x where x | gc(x) > 0
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01:47:34 <jessica> bjoern, I live near MIT.
01:47:37 <zachb> Heh
01:47:53 <jessica> I get to hang out at Miracle of Science bar and watch guys sketch out circuit diagrammes on cocktail napkins and try to pick up chicks with them.
01:48:01 <|bjoern|> I would find unzipping a womens genes privavy invasive.
01:48:02 <jessica> "I wish I were your second derivative so I could fill your concavities." ain't bad by those standards.
01:48:08 <|bjoern|> without the usual fun factor.
01:48:09 <zachb> Really? I should go try that
01:48:22 <MacTed> you mean those diagrams don't work? *tears up his practice sketchpad*
01:48:50 <|bjoern|> Over here, good geek girls are too rare to specifically target them.
01:48:56 <jessica> I don't know. There's a certain female demographic that hangs out at a place where the menu is presented as the Periodic Table to start with.
01:48:56 <|bjoern|> in my experience anyway.
01:49:03 <zachb> Awesome
01:49:11 <MacTed> they're just better camoflaged
01:49:19 <|bjoern|> Also, they often are like lookint in2 the mirror
01:49:21 <zachb> 25. What do you say we go back to my room and do some math: Add a bed, subtract our clothes, divide your legs, and multiply
01:49:29 <|bjoern|> which is annyoing
01:49:48 <jessica> MIT == Plenty of geek girls. Cambridge == Plenty of attractive, well-groomed, soignée ladies under 30.
01:49:51 <|bjoern|> zachb: that's not too bad a line.
01:49:56 <jessica> Venn diagramme would not be very flattering to the MIT girls.
01:49:57 <zachb> 38. Your name is Leslie? Look, I can spell your name on my calculator!
01:50:05 <zachb> Aww
01:50:07 <jessica> But we're used to MIT men.
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01:50:16 <|bjoern|> I avoid USians to be honest.
01:50:35 <zachb> "me-->OO<-- you | we aren't overlapping!"
01:50:37 <|bjoern|> Usually, they want to talk to me about Jesus anyway.
01:50:56 <zachb> 43. Let’s meet somewhere… you bring your beaker and I’ll bring my stirring rod
01:50:57 <jessica> Unfairly stereotyping, Bjoern. :P
01:51:01 <zachb> Yeah!
01:51:06 <MacTed> unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, umount, sleep
01:51:06 <zachb> Way uncool
01:51:21 <zachb> fsck'ing fuck!
01:51:28 <MacTed> s/\,/\
01:51:30 <MacTed> :-)
01:51:41 <zachb> 47. Let’s discover our coefficient of friction
01:51:45 <Arnia> hm
01:51:46 <jessica> Bostonian type urbanites aren't proselytising their religions, to what extent any of them have any.
01:51:47 <zachb> For a sec, I thought that was ascii art
01:51:49 <|bjoern|> Con tem plating the existance of USians is usually more than you can expect!
01:51:50 <MacTed> grrr... chopped at the seicolon
01:51:58 <MacTed> *semicolon
01:52:00 <zachb> jessica: excatly. They just run around bashing yankies
01:52:04 <Arnia> I feel ashamed to be a geek in the company of those chat-up lines
01:52:11 <zachb> :p
01:52:19 <|bjoern|> traditionally USians are too weird to seriously consider their existance.
01:52:19 <Monty> ionno
01:52:23 <zachb> s/xc/cx/
01:52:24 <|bjoern|> nu Monty
01:52:26 <Monty> Zach: check under crschmidt.
01:52:35 * Arnia blinks
01:52:38 <Arnia> Apposite
01:52:38 <|bjoern|> yes, check under crschmidt
01:52:40 <zachb> Now Monty's just repeating lines
01:52:41 <Monty> nobody liked me to
01:52:43 <|bjoern|> k
01:52:51 <zachb> kthxbai
01:53:03 * Arnia sends zachb a badger to play with
01:53:05 <zachb> We need to devise a system for parallel communication
01:53:53 <jessica> Bjoern: clearly you've not ever read this? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34198
01:54:10 <jessica> Point: European Men Are So Much More Romantic Than American Men vs. Counterpoint: American Women Studying In Europe Are Unbelievably Easy
01:54:40 <|bjoern|> .title
01:54:40 <phenny> |bjoern|: European Men Are So Much More Romantic Than American Men vs. American Women Studying In Europe Are Unbelievably Easy | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
01:54:59 <|bjoern|> I am quite familiar with the facts.
01:55:01 <zachb> Ah the union
01:55:13 <zachb> pwn
01:55:18 <zachb> .title !
01:55:19 <phenny> Can't connect to http://!
01:55:22 <|bjoern|> Yes fulll stio
01:55:28 <|bjoern|> Yes fulll stop? yes.
01:55:58 <|bjoern|> You people should drink less polish vodka + apple juice
01:56:06 <zachb> OH LOOK A NON SEQUITUR!
01:56:21 <jessica> I have never met an American who would drink Polish vodka with apple juice willingly.
01:57:04 <zachb> tele and what not!
01:59:21 <jessica> bjoern: on a German-related note, I was wondering, do you have any tips on learning regional German while not in Germany?
01:59:44 <zachb> jessica: pretend that you are?
01:59:45 <|bjoern|> Perhaps You should ask when I'm sober!
01:59:46 <jessica> I'm learning German as a Schmidt, but, um, they're Schwaben.
02:00:07 <jessica> It's actually hilarious whenever I speak to a German and they ask, "Where is your husband's family from?"
02:00:10 <jessica> "Oh, they're Swabian."
02:00:16 <zachb> Ahaha! I knew he was drunk! He was being nice to me!
02:00:17 <|bjoern|> I am in Schwabenland right now, for .. 5 more days.
02:00:26 <jessica> There is a distinct look of shock and pity before the immaculate German manners kick back in and they say, "How interesting!"
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02:00:52 <|bjoern|> I never swhack soberly
02:01:03 <|bjoern|> Indeed
02:01:08 <zachb> swhack's a verb now?
02:01:17 <zachb> that makes 3 parts of speech
02:01:19 <|bjoern|> It always was.
02:01:40 <jessica> What are you doing in the Suevii lands, Bjoern?
02:02:03 <zachb> drinking, I assume
02:02:06 <|bjoern|> Yes
02:02:13 * zachb is catching on
02:02:16 <|bjoern|> And also pretending to study
02:02:25 <Arnia> Oh, I should book a holiday in Freiberg soon... or Villingen
02:02:31 <|bjoern|> Next I shall pretend to study elsewhere
02:03:20 *** zachb changed the topic to: "But people would make a joke about faggotry here, lest, sbp is far too cool for that."
02:03:35 * jessica smirks. http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38378 "When traveling through Europe, remind everyone you encounter that, if not for America, they would all be speaking German. (Note: Does not work in Germany.) "
02:03:48 <zachb> jessica: awesome
02:04:12 <zachb> "If you bend over to close your suitcase and hear a "Zwip! Thump!" sound, then discover a knife wobbling in the wall behind you, it could mean you've unintentionally become entangled in a web of international espionage and intrigue. "
02:04:31 <jessica> "When traveling through Italy, be sure to get a load of the racks on some of those Ginas."
02:04:32 <|bjoern|> I like "When traveling through Europe, remind everyone you encounter that, if not for America, they would all be speaking German. (Note: Does not work in Germany.) "
02:04:45 <|bjoern|> At least I think I would if sober
02:05:10 <zachb> I like the carrying cash one
02:05:40 <|bjoern|> .gc "I just got back from a semester abroad in Europe, and let me tell you, it truly was the most magical, amazing experience of my entire life."
02:05:41 <phenny> "I just got back from a semester abroad in Europe, and let me tell you, it truly was the most magical, amazing experience of my entire life.": 20
02:06:08 <zachb> .gc porn experience
02:06:09 <phenny> porn experience: 3,670,000
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02:06:24 <zachb> has jessica ever played?
02:06:33 <|bjoern|> .gc Penis
02:06:33 <phenny> Penis: 6,790,000
02:06:43 <jessica> Played Google Count?
02:06:47 <|bjoern|> not even 2x
02:06:53 <|bjoern|> a lot
02:07:06 <zachb> the porn version
02:07:23 <|bjoern|> u perhaps
02:07:24 <zachb> its pretty much proof of rule 37 (#?)
02:07:49 <jessica> Ah, no. I'm married to a German-American, and a Swabian at that, remember? We have used phenny for nefarious purposes, such as arguing about the correct spelling of a phrase.
02:08:04 * jessica points Bjoern at her private message, which she thought he might find a touch amusing.
02:08:16 <zachb> Its about me, no?
02:08:29 * zachb feels rejected and cries
02:09:05 <jessica> no, it's insulting to Germans, but Germans tend to have a good sense of humour about themselves, sort of like mocking Italians about their driving skills, they're fine with that.
02:09:19 <zachb> what is?
02:09:24 <jessica> fine. it goes here. but I'll earn undying enmity of some.
02:10:44 <jessica> I've found all the Germans I met to be unfailingly courteous, fairly relaxed about ethnic jokes at their expense, overly focused on details and pedantry in general, and busy practicing the post-WW2 rule of constant talking about the Holocaust even more than Israelis do while making sure to purchase all assets possible in the winners' countries.
02:11:10 <jessica> Oh, and they squeeze a nickel until the buffalo shits and the Indian screams.
02:11:26 <|bjoern|> Well, except for the last point, I could live up to that.
02:11:48 <jessica> But I'm sure there's a group of relaxed group of spendthrift Germans who can stop living in the past who are rude to people. I just haven't met them yet.
02:13:06 <jessica> It's telling, however, that Germans on holiday are the most likely to be mixed up with Americans on holiday by everyone else. I can't tell if it's the dentistry, the relentless reliance on maps and travel guides, or the bad fashion sense. But I'm a natural-born American and even *I* fuck it up, and I can pick out every other tourist in town.
02:13:07 <Monty> potty mouth!
02:14:41 <zachb> fuck you, monty!
02:14:42 <Monty> screw you
02:14:48 <zachb> screw yourself, monty!
02:14:50 <Monty> puts his hands on males >:)
02:15:05 <zachb> ...
02:15:07 <jessica> Zach, you're actually asking a Markov chaining bot to perform anatomically impossible acts.
02:15:20 <jessica> And he is responding relatively appropriately.
02:15:23 <jessica> Just let the computer win.
02:15:35 <zachb> No, I was asking it to screw its markov chain
02:15:39 <zachb> to make a spiral, of sourts
02:15:41 <zachb> *sorts
02:15:49 <zachb> .gc screw markov chain
02:15:50 <phenny> screw markov chain: 8,440
02:16:05 <zachb> read those fantastic 8,440 articles about it
02:17:31 * jessica smirks.
02:17:51 <jessica> "The cure for old guys with erectile dysfunction is younger guys." -- http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/90855/
02:18:13 <zachb> what the fuck?
02:18:18 <zachb> (pun!)
02:19:48 <zachb> "She was open to every person and every experience -- even Republicans, as long as they could kiss."
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02:23:19 <jessica> okay, time for me to perform my nightly ablutions.
02:23:22 <jessica> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29110
02:23:23 <phenny> jessica: Retro-Crazed German Youths Invade Poland | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
02:23:50 <jessica> "Things go in cycles, ja?" said 17-year-old Otto Meine of Stuttgart, a German Youth Brigade junior officer stationed in Gdansk. "Last year, the big thing with all the kids at school was The Spice Girls, but this year it's the violation of the Treaty of Versailles. Next year, who knows?"
02:24:53 <zachb> have fun
02:43:04 <jessica> oh, it's a blast.
02:44:12 <zachb> Mhmm
02:45:50 * nslater wibbles
02:47:14 <jessica> But do you wobble?
02:47:17 <jessica> Or do you fall down?
02:48:05 <nslater> no, I always wibble
02:48:10 <nslater> how about j00?
02:48:11 <zachb> I thought you boinged?
02:48:27 <nslater> that's Arnia, jeez, learn your swhack cohorts actions mkay
02:48:30 <nslater> how about n5h?
02:48:30 <n5h> you got it? either cool or plausable or both. make_english_question()
02:48:40 <nslater> make_english_answer()
02:49:03 <zachb> what is this, the GTK+?
02:49:12 <nslater> shut it you
02:49:31 <nslater> anyways, jessica, what about a yorkshire accent?
02:49:42 <nslater> I can make mine pretty deep if I try hard enough XD
02:49:55 <zachb> DO IT!
02:49:58 <zachb> It gets chicks :P
02:50:00 <nslater> ey up duck, etc
02:50:10 <zachb> ...bugs bunny?
02:50:15 <nslater> no
02:50:16 <jessica> I don't know. I quote The Onion, flirt shamelessly with various men, read far too much on Wikipedia, intervene in arguments between toddlers besides d8uv and sbp ...
02:50:34 <zachb> Ooh, d8uvsbpburn
02:50:46 <nslater> you sound like a swhacker alright
02:50:53 <nslater> I'm always flirting shamelessly with men
02:50:58 * jessica smirks.
02:51:49 <jessica> nslater: well, I think it also depends on the type of Yorkshireman.
02:51:51 <zachb> "Force Quit" is not responding.
02:51:58 <nslater> i take it you're schmidt's sister btw? :)
02:52:09 <zachb> Burn?
02:52:10 <nslater> what type is best?
02:52:30 <jessica> There's the kind that picks up American girls on holiday abroad, and then there's the type that's as broad as they are tall and have scars shaped exactly like half a pint glass across the bridge of their nose.
02:52:34 <nslater> zachb: KILL IT WITH FIRE
02:52:36 <jessica> ... sister?
02:52:45 <nslater> brother!?
02:52:59 <jessica> Hardly.
02:53:03 <zachb> WIFE!
02:53:07 <nslater> iuno, just guessing, you share his last name at least!
02:53:11 <nslater> oh... that would make sense
02:53:23 <nslater> didn't really think about it too hard, mkay
02:53:33 <zachb> Its okay, jessica, he's the village moron
02:53:45 <jessica> He said he had a Yorkshire accent, Zach.
02:53:51 <jessica> You're being redundant.
02:53:57 * jessica is kidding, nslater. :P
02:54:00 <nslater> whatever okay... i run the funniest markov bot in here, so i am automatically twice as leet as you zachb
02:54:22 <zachb> hehe
02:54:24 <nslater> jessica: I am neight of those to architypes, ftw
02:54:28 <nslater> erm, fwiw
02:54:29 <zachb> nslater: no you don't
02:54:33 <nslater> yes, yes I do
02:54:39 <zachb> I run twoot, that makes me 1339!
02:54:52 <nslater> that makes you f41l
02:55:18 * nslater ^5's n5h
02:55:18 * nslater looks around confused
02:55:18 <n5h> right, moiraa . righty. nah, i don't see a place to sit in my room
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02:55:23 <zachb> TWOOT
02:55:27 <nslater> zomg
02:55:29 <zachb> how do we work this thing again?
02:55:32 <zachb> .last
02:55:33 <nslater> n5h, give twoot whatfor
02:55:33 <twoot> nslater: twitter suxs
02:55:34 <n5h> ah. hmmm
02:55:43 * jessica stares.
02:55:44 <zachb> .tw nslater suxs
02:55:45 <nslater> .tw yes, yes it does
02:55:50 <jessica> Wait, what is this competition about?
02:55:55 <zachb> Its twoot
02:55:55 <nslater> who runs the best bot
02:55:57 <zachb> it twitters
02:55:58 <jessica> is this one of those ...
02:56:03 <nslater> but twoot is the biggest failbot evar
02:56:14 <zachb> Yes, we're trying to impress you by showing off our bots
02:56:17 <nslater> zachb: watch it or i will bring in my army of other bots
02:56:17 <jessica> Oh. I see. Sort of like combat to the death?
02:56:28 <nslater> right... im bringing in the artilery
02:56:29 <zachb> Combat of bot-machoism
02:56:40 <zachb> Oh yeah? I have that mutating replicating bot!
02:56:47 <zachb> remember him!?
02:57:01 <zachb> .last
02:57:01 <twoot> nslater: yes, yes it does
02:57:05 <jessica> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34126
02:57:06 <phenny> jessica: Never In My Wildest Dreams Did I Think I'd Get Bored Watching Robots Fight | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
02:57:12 <zachb> jessica: http://twitter.com/swhack
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02:57:40 <zachb> what the hell was the name of that spammy bot
02:57:41 <nslater> okay... here's Arn1a
02:57:45 <Arn1a> "first year" "second year" "third year". so i'm feeling a bit later on. hm... i need to walk around :(
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02:58:04 <zachb> jessica can't resist twoot's sexiness
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02:58:18 <nslater> and nab00 for your plasure
02:58:18 <nab00> i'm coming at'cha like a hot flannel! see
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02:58:51 <nslater> and s3xyb0y
02:58:51 <s3xyb0y> i readily agreed, and to the couch again and erin would go and sprayed his cum without missing a drop. it had already been half hard and my ass was probably the furthest thing from his outstretched asshole. andy knew all too well what the hell, i figured the best access to bill's virgin ass and it felt great
02:58:57 <zachb> DAMMIT
02:59:07 <zachb> ops please?
02:59:07 <nslater> lol
02:59:23 <zachb> *tries to find mutating replicating bot*
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02:59:35 <nslater> oooh, looksee, it's virtual rms
02:59:40 <nslater> vrms, yo mah mang
02:59:40 <vrms> at the same time, they ask us to treat the legal system as an “ecosystem”, because that word implies the issue from the mutual destructiveness
02:59:55 <jessica> Gentlemen, for your elucidation, I am the wife of crschmidt. As per the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, (M.G.L. c.272, sec. 14), a married person who has sexual intercourse with a person not his spouse or an unmarried person who has sexual intercourse with a married person shall be guilty of adultery and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two years or
02:59:55 <jessica> by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars.
03:00:02 <zachb> [[[
03:00:02 <zachb> zach@zach-desktop:~$ locate mutate
03:00:02 <zachb> /usr/share/k3d/lsystem/higgs-copepoda-crustacean-mutated.ls
03:00:02 <zachb> ]]]
03:00:16 <nslater> jessica: kthx?
03:00:22 <zachb> I don't want sex!
03:00:24 <jessica> The case law is conclusive, in Commonwealth v. Stowell (389 Mass. 171, 449 NE2d 357 [1983]). The court held that the Massachusetts adultery statute was not unconstitutional and that it was proper to have applied it to consensual acts between adults in private.
03:00:31 <jessica> Why else do men attempt to impress women?
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03:00:39 <zachb> So that they can get sex later!
03:00:42 <jessica> ...
03:00:50 <nslater> oh, this is less about impressing you and more about proving my leetness over zachb, it's a reacuring theme
03:00:55 <nslater> oh look, hey f34ry
03:00:56 <f34ry> and that the creeping fowler eye, or russet-pated choughs
03:01:05 <jessica> Oh, excellent. I shall enjoy watching you two battle.
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03:01:20 <zachb> Actually, I'm impressing you so that you aren't impressed by nslater and so that he gets no jessica :P
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03:01:27 <nslater> f34ry: heya
03:01:27 <f34ry> first, pyramus must draw a sword to kill cankers in the beached margent of the elm. sight? her dotage now i do look on me? and leave thee to the cold fruitless moon. thrice-blessed they that master so their blood to undergo such maiden pilgrimage; but earthlier happy is the rose distill'd than that which knitteth souls and prospers loves, and by the scroll
03:01:41 * jessica also points out that the fine of $500 is probably a lot less than it costs to maintain a wife, and that many men go longer than 2 years without sex.
03:01:50 <zachb> Heh
03:01:51 <nslater> haha
03:02:09 <zachb> hmf
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03:02:20 <nslater> hey r0cky
03:02:20 <r0cky> i see all with a switch blade knife what guy makes you cry und i did. eddie! when eddie said he didn't like his teddy you knew he was a mercy killing. he had a good time. even smiling makes my face ache. my children turn on me. rocky's behaving just as easily. that's better
03:02:35 <nslater> lol
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03:02:55 <zachb> I have a bot that found THE GOOGLENUMBER!
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03:02:59 <zachb> You dno't
03:02:59 <nslater> r0cky!
03:03:00 <r0cky> there are some people who say that life is a failure. your life style's too extreme. i'm your new commander. you are ..
03:03:01 <Monty> How touching :p
03:03:08 <nslater> hehe
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03:03:43 <nslater> hey sl34zy
03:03:43 <sl34zy> i love every bone in your body - especially mine hey... somebody farted. let's get out of it
03:03:53 * nslater is lolling
03:04:08 <nslater> oh man, i could just keep on going couldnt i
03:04:13 <nslater> ... because im just so damn leet
03:04:17 <nslater> s3xyb0y: wassup?
03:04:17 <s3xyb0y> his asshole and the judge increased his slobbering tongue licking gesture inside the boy's ass crack
03:04:26 <nslater> hawt
03:04:29 <jessica> ....
03:04:34 <nslater> tell that to sl34zy
03:04:34 <sl34zy> i make more money than you can spend
03:04:39 <nslater> sweet
03:04:47 <zachb> make a jessica bot!
03:04:51 <jessica> what?
03:04:54 <nslater> erm
03:04:55 <zachb> that'll get her to sleep with you
03:04:59 <zachb> ;-)
03:05:01 <nslater> ... i need a corpus of her vocab
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03:05:11 <Monty> hi crschmidt
03:05:12 <zachb> Use #swhack logs!
03:05:14 <crschmidt> hi monty
03:05:14 <nslater> haha
03:05:18 <Monty> if (inner-cities == zoo) { semaphore prefers pebbledashed quirks;}
03:05:19 <nslater> zachb: hide!
03:05:27 <zachb> you're the one that should hide :P
03:05:33 <nslater> erm what now?
03:05:44 <zachb> You're the one making all the bots :P
03:06:12 <nslater> yup, minding my own busines spawning bawts... you're the one obsessing over getting laid d00d
03:06:13 <jessica> "The lurid details of the case were made more sensational when tests at the
03:06:13 <jessica> state crime lab confirmed that fluid found in the boy's rectum was indeed dog
03:06:13 <jessica> semen." -- http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/53179374ed22c235
03:06:20 <nslater> hawt
03:06:25 <nslater> nab00: wooord up
03:06:25 <nab00> for there are over seventeen mirrors in mirror world! [giggles] mirror world? it's not really a world, is it
03:06:37 <zachb> Wow
03:06:39 <nslater> nab00: if not a world, then what is it, pray tell?
03:06:39 <nab00> your fossil's bitch! that's the smell of brutish men squirting out hot jets of man foam. you'll be doing that in a trance
03:06:49 <nslater> nab00: man foam!?
03:06:49 <nab00> that's the smell of brutish men squirting out hot jets of man foam
03:06:55 <nslater> nab00: yeah, i got that bit
03:06:55 <nab00> i've curdled. you better run along, danger mouse. i'm not your wife, but we have made massively violent love
03:07:11 <nslater> nab00: well, I certainly dont remember that
03:07:11 <nab00> a tasty yellow beef, ird: yeah, it's one of the heart"] okay
03:07:15 <crschmidt> why aren't the bots voiced?
03:07:24 <zachb> because he just added them
03:07:25 <nslater> sbp cant be bothered any more
03:07:25 <zachb> like, now
03:07:32 <jessica> um. dear gods. finding a corpus of my vocabulary ... #swhack logs, #joiito logs, LiveJournal and searching under jal@lavarnway.mv.com on USENET should all help.
03:07:34 <nslater> also, i just brought in about 60 all at once
03:07:37 <zachb> And I don't think they've ever been in here
03:07:45 <crschmidt> zachb: phenny has been in here many a time
03:07:45 <nslater> jessica: that also assumes i cba, which i cant :p
03:07:45 <Monty> figured what?
03:07:47 <crschmidt> and he is not voiced
03:07:58 <crschmidt> Anyway, nab00 appears to be a bot
03:07:58 <nab00> oh, right
03:08:01 <nslater> phenny is girl!
03:08:07 <crschmidt> Yeah, yeah
03:08:11 <nslater> heh
03:08:11 * crschmidt puts nab00 on ignore
03:08:11 <nab00> what? you are an ape! uhh..
03:08:17 <nslater> hahaha
03:08:21 <nslater> nice comeback
03:08:57 <zachb> put them all on ignore
03:09:02 <zachb> then it looks like nslater's talking to himself
03:09:05 <jessica> I can't do that.
03:09:10 <crschmidt> I don't know what 'all' is
03:09:17 <jessica> You're going to such efforts to try to defeat each other in combat to impress me.
03:09:18 <crschmidt> that's why I'm complaining about the lack of voice
03:09:29 <nslater> i could list them but you would spend the next 10 minutes watching them chatter :p
03:09:34 <zachb> crschmidt: anyone with a number in their name :P
03:09:40 <nslater> or I could just remove them, but thats no fun
03:09:45 <zachb> nslater: know what I'm thiking, BOT CHAINS!
03:09:48 <nslater> also, yes, they all have numbers in thier name
03:09:54 <zachb> jessica: who are you? oh right
03:09:56 <nslater> zachb: nah, they wont mention each other
03:10:05 <zachb> alic3
03:10:06 <alic3> it's very like having a game of play with a little at this.
03:10:13 <zachb> yeah, to verify,just say their name ;p
03:10:15 <nslater> who's is alic3?
03:10:15 <alic3> and the soldiers did.
03:10:24 <nslater> thats not mine
03:10:29 <zachb> *shrug*
03:10:29 <Monty> Found the border.
03:10:35 <nslater> weird
03:10:38 <zachb> cmd test
03:10:40 <zachb> woah, cool
03:10:45 <nslater> hmm?
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03:11:05 <nslater> haha
03:11:10 <nslater> see ya zachb
03:11:15 * nslater is a winrar
03:11:16 <jessica> I expect that he just failed.
03:11:21 <jessica> I guess the winner gets ... nothing.
03:11:23 <nslater> do i win internets?
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03:11:36 <zachb> heh
03:11:38 <zachb> oops
03:11:41 <nslater> zachb: lrn2internet
03:11:43 <zachb> did I get kicked?
03:11:46 <nslater> yes
03:11:49 <zachb> hehe
03:12:02 <zachb> oh gawd, w/ autorejoin, that could have been messy
03:12:05 <nslater> k, i have proofed my irc leetness, will take them all out, except n5h, caus he's my home boy
03:12:06 <n5h> parallel transport in hyperbolic space. so i've been meaning to "precious little snowflake". you're a bloody awesome apartment. just so. it's pretty damn cool
03:12:26 <nslater> bye sl34zy
03:12:27 <sl34zy> did you know i'm on the front lawn like crazed weasels now! i require a tissue sample
03:12:30 <zachb> dahut!
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03:12:35 <zachb> DAHUT
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03:12:40 <zachb> monty yell at dahut
03:12:41 <Monty> Ooh, d8uvsbpburn
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03:12:52 <zachb> monty, tell plum about dahut
03:12:52 <Monty> zachb: Okay, I'll tell plum that next time I see them...
03:12:55 <zachb> oops
03:13:04 <nslater> plum no longer chatters
03:13:13 <nslater> cya s3xyb0y
03:13:13 <s3xyb0y> then maybe my daughters wouldn't have to say that i was home alone, so i said "oh yes, daddy, but you can't dear i.m....". his voice trailed off as ginny took the butt plug and tensed his ass
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03:13:34 <zachb> You shuold have done a bot chain!
03:13:42 <nslater> like i said, they dont mention each other
03:13:52 <zachb> You can still mention them all in once sentence ;p
03:17:08 <jessica> (Native American cop is arresting a black man)
03:17:08 <jessica> Black man: Fuckin' discrimination, man! Leave me the fuck alone! I ain't done nothin wrong!
03:17:08 <jessica> Native American Cop: Fuck you! We were oppressed first!
03:17:08 <jessica> Black man: Apache motherfucker!
03:17:09 <jessica> --82nd St, Queens
03:17:09 <jessica> http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/015375.html
03:17:11 <nslater> also, jessica, thanks for having the same length nick as me.. that pleases me more than I can descrive
03:17:20 <nslater> describe...
03:17:30 <nslater> like mahound...
03:17:53 <jessica> well, there was this hot chick who was looking for a threesome and it was a week when CRS and I were in an LDR and shagging like bunnies and ...
03:18:06 <jessica> Oh. You were correcting your own spelling. Whoops!
03:18:07 <nslater> heh, thats going to look odd in the logs
03:18:26 <nslater> FOR THE LOGS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INTERNETS SEX
03:18:43 <nslater> AND GOATS
03:18:49 <zachb> [!!!] WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INTERNETS SEX
03:18:59 <zachb> [ftr] WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INTERNETS SEX
03:19:16 <zachb> <off> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INTERNETS SEX </off>
03:19:22 <zachb> There, we're covered
03:19:40 <crschmidt> Goats?
03:19:46 <jessica> Actually, I was talking about the sort of sex that you have, in person, including the awkward moment where you try to feel which way the condom rolls out so you can apply it with your mouth, & c.
03:19:46 <zachb> yeah, where were you?
03:19:53 <jessica> If you guys want to do Internets sex, that's totally your call.
03:19:59 <jessica> At least you don't have to spring for her cab fare home after.
03:20:08 <zachb> yeah, go over to #bytesexual, nslater's channel
03:20:12 <nslater> goats
03:20:19 <crschmidt> LiveJournal. Because Goats are cool.
03:20:36 <crschmidt> -- http://p-stat.livejournal.com/img/LJbanner6.gif
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05:06:06 <Monty> welcome, dmiles_afk
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07:52:59 <sbp> yo
07:53:00 <phenny> sbp: 11 Jul 21:00Z <d8uv> tell sbp http://ohgodinternet.tumblr.com/post/41928618/hamlet-act-2-scene-1-a-room-in-a-big-fancy-gays
07:53:01 <phenny> sbp: 00:32Z <|bjoern|> tell sbp RFC 2396 has a uric production. I just encountered that at dict leo org. lolz? sbp(yah).
07:53:16 * sbp blinks
07:54:13 <sbp> hehe
08:13:41 <sbp> .title http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=124374
08:13:42 <phenny> sbp: ABS-CBN News Online (Beta)
08:13:52 <sbp> "Priest discovers human foetus in jar of cheese spread"
08:15:06 <sbp> best paragraph juxtaposition of the news so far:
08:15:07 <sbp> [[[
08:15:08 <sbp> L/Cpl Hodge was nicknamed Combat Barbie in 2005 after being given a bravery commendation for saving the lives of members of her regiment in Iraq.
08:15:08 <sbp> They were held at gunpoint when their vehicle overturned but L/Cpl Hodge punched the gunman and took his rifles.
08:15:13 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7503061.stm
08:16:01 <sbp> heh
08:16:01 <sbp> [[[
08:16:02 <sbp> A football referee has been suspended for allegedly being drunk while officiating a league game in Belarus.
08:16:02 <sbp> Sergei Shmolik, 43, appeared so inebriated he could hardly walk and was led off the pitch by match officials.
08:16:09 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7502968.stm
08:17:19 <sbp> .gc Loreldene
08:17:20 <phenny> Loreldene: 2
08:20:18 <sbp> by the way, today's big hand-clapping well done goes to iTunes
08:20:31 <sbp> which, after the recent update, managed to screw up the encoding of all my track names
08:20:57 <sbp> so now I have stuff like "Deux GÈants du Jazz"
08:21:08 <sbp> way to go there, Apple. serious i18n fail
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08:38:31 <nelix_> ew itunes
08:39:00 <sbp> ew your face
08:39:13 <nelix_> i respect that
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09:21:21 <nsh> .gs there's no glory in *
09:21:21 <phenny> nsh: 11 Jul 17:58Z <thelsdj> tell nsh we won't know until noon pst when details are released
09:21:24 <phenny> there's no glory in *: being (11), knocking (3), wrestling (2), winning (2), war but there (2), war (2), its franchises (2), heroism (2), gutlessness (2), cheating (2)
09:21:44 <nsh> phenny, tell thelsdj ah igetcha
09:21:45 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when thelsdj is around.
09:23:49 <nsh> you do that, phenny; you do that
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09:43:34 <xover> .weather Tromsø
09:43:36 <phenny> Clear ☼, 12℃, 1005mb, Gentle breeze 5m/s (10kt) (↑) - ENTC 11:20, 0920Z
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10:38:53 <nsh> .gs i bet i could *
10:38:54 <phenny> i bet i could *: beat (4), raise (3), eat (3), type (2), stop (2), hehehehehe (2), guess (2)
10:39:01 <nsh> .gs i bet i could eat *
10:39:02 <phenny> i bet i could eat *: this (7), this whole (3), more (3), 4 (3), oysters (2), like (2), a whole lobster (2), a pie eatting (2), a pie eat (2), 100 big macs (2)
10:41:01 <xover> .weather Tromsø
10:41:02 <phenny> Clear ☼, 13℃, 1005mb, Moderate breeze 6m/s (11kt) (↑) - ENTC 12:20, 1020Z
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10:43:07 <d8uv> looo
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10:56:50 <d8uv> phenny: Tell morbus: http://www.jsjprod.com/ is the voice of Duke Nukem, will record 30 seconds of stuff as Duke for $50
10:56:57 <nsh> .wik Bag man
10:56:58 <phenny> "A bag man (or bagman), also known as a delivery boy or running man, is a person designated to collect money in a protection racket." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bag_man
10:57:14 <d8uv> and I can't do tell anymore
10:57:33 * nsh notes that the Duke Nuken voice is also a pretty sweet racket
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10:58:43 <d8uv> phenny: tell Morbus of http://jsjprod.com/website/duke.html
10:58:44 <phenny> d8uv: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
10:58:55 <d8uv> Well voice acting is awesome
10:59:11 <d8uv> Especially if you can do a voice like Duke Nukem
10:59:38 <d8uv> As anyone who has ever skyped with me, I have a pretty shitty voice
10:59:39 <Monty> potty mouth!
11:02:00 <d8uv> Fuck you
11:02:14 <nelix_> in soviot russia
11:02:17 <nelix_> potty mouths you
11:02:56 <d8uv> Also it's 3 in the goddamn morning, so I have to go to bed. But, if anyone here is bored, I have an interesting challenge to pose:
11:03:45 <d8uv> I want the total number of KP for each vote in the comments section of http://kotaku.com/5023454/the-e3-2008-kotaku-fantasy-betting-pool
11:04:13 <nelix_> that sounds more like a favour than a challenge
11:04:28 <d8uv> It is!
11:05:04 <d8uv> It's also something that I would normally try make a program for, but as I said, it's 3 in the goddamn morning
11:05:54 <d8uv> Cause I know it can be solved with like... I dunno, three regexps?
11:05:59 <nelix_> whenever you say 3 in the godamn morning it reminds my of next doors voice
11:06:01 <d8uv> Two?
11:06:03 <nelix_> stupid old man
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11:06:34 <d8uv> IT IS THREE IN THE GODDAMN MORNING
11:06:42 <_bjoern> no
11:06:42 <phenny> _bjoern: 11 Jul 12:40Z <sbp> tell _bjoern nu
11:06:48 <_bjoern> see
11:06:52 <d8uv> no nu
11:07:25 <_bjoern> "Here goes the text (propably german) for the german speaking customers." - spam message on "Subject for german customers"
11:08:07 <d8uv> But yeah it's a favor, but it's also something that seems like someone much smarter than me (read: all of Swhack), should be able to do in like 15 minutes tops
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11:18:15 <aspect> looks like a job for awk
11:18:56 <aspect> phenny: tell d8uv this is stupid and too late but I must have been bored and missing my awk skillz: awk -F - '{score[$2]+=$1} END {for(s in score) print score[s] s}
11:18:56 <phenny> aspect: I'll pass that on when d8uv is around.
11:20:53 <sbp> aspect++
11:21:15 <aspect> 'awk's just one of those tools
11:21:37 <aspect> generally unappreciated, but when I see a job that's made for it I have to try :)
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11:22:03 <sbp> yeah, I know how you feel
11:22:14 <sbp> I try many programming tasks in bash first
11:22:16 <cre8radix> heya
11:22:18 <sbp> just to see if it can be done
11:22:20 <sbp> yo cre8radix
11:22:21 <aspect> even though I'd kind of prefer to replace it with a tcl proc :)
11:22:47 <cre8radix> sbp!
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11:27:52 <Monty> welcome, shepazu
11:28:59 <xover> Now for real karma points, do it in JS as a bookmarklet.
11:30:16 <sbp> Just Add jQuery™
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12:09:55 <Morbus> holy crap, d8uv was ere
12:09:55 <phenny> Morbus: 10:58Z <d8uv> tell Morbus of http://jsjprod.com/website/duke.html
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13:11:09 <Arnia> yay, SIM just activated
13:12:37 <nsh> telecommuniYAYtions!
13:18:34 <Arnia> well, it means I feel able to sort out a PAC code etc
13:18:53 <Arnia> although, it is the big meeting today so I might just go down to the river and enjoy myself
13:19:36 <nsh> like a dandy fop
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13:29:38 <_bjoern> If you add an 's' to "Atompub" you have a german nuclear fart.
13:31:29 <jessica> Given the steady German diet of cabbage, potatoes and various kinds of sausage, is there any *other* kind of Teutonic flatulence?
13:33:03 <_bjoern> Great, you did it, now I'm hungry.
13:34:11 <jessica> My most sincere apologies, my good man.
13:35:26 <jessica> However, given my experience of Schwabenküche, you should be able to obtain those things with remarkable speed.
13:35:49 <jessica> I shudder to think of the fate of the vegetarian American tourist in Germany.
13:38:42 <Arnia> jessica: roasted at 200 for five hours
13:39:21 <jessica> you know, one of the things that keeps me from travelling abroad in an apartment swap or something of that nature is the fact that I would be utterly fucked on cooking.
13:40:06 <jessica> I've done fairly well at adapting to metric in a lot of things, but cooking is an area where I am firmly used to American measurements.
13:40:39 <jessica> Speaking of which, when you buy marijuana abroad, is it still sold by the ounce and fractions thereof, or has the persistence of metric led people to buy it by the gramme?
13:44:24 <_bjoern> I am no expert, but I am quite certain it's metric.
13:44:58 <jessica> Grazie. You have enlightened me!
13:45:37 <_bjoern> It's what I do!
13:50:54 <xover> jessica: Have you never observed that American, even North American, drug dealers refer to their product in terms of “kees” (kilogrammes)?
13:51:11 <jessica> Depends on the product, sir!
13:51:27 <jessica> Clearly you haven't been a tourist in the correct parts of the U.S.
13:51:49 <jessica> Marijuana is sold by the ounce and pound. Cocaine and heroin are sold by the gram and kilogram.
13:52:09 <jessica> MDMA is sold by the pill and LSD is sold by the individual dose.
13:52:39 <xover> Marijuana is not a drug, in any meaningfull sense of the word that I care to apply in this context.
13:52:45 <jessica> have I missed anything of importance?
13:52:53 <jessica> oh, no. I don't think of it as anything more than a harmless diversion.
13:53:21 <jessica> but it is sold as part of a tax-free largely unfettered free market economy.
13:53:27 <jessica> (Thanks, Adam Smith!)
13:53:46 <xover> heh heh
13:55:52 <tobbez> http://drhorrible.com/
13:55:57 <_bjoern> I thought Marijuana is used to make ropes, bags, and clothing
13:55:58 <chris2> it's sold in grammes here in germany
13:56:31 <_bjoern> and I observe these days it's often difficult to tell ropes, bags, and clothing apart.
14:01:00 * jessica notes that hemp and marijuana are separate entities.
14:01:09 <jessica> For instance, one gets you high. The other makes very uncomfortable jeans.
14:02:23 <sbp> which one is which?
14:03:11 <sbp> what brings you back to Swhack, by the way, jessica, after such a long absence?
14:03:46 <jessica> http://everything.hemp.com/ ‹ does not get you high.
14:03:53 <_bjoern> What is the effect of smoking one of those uncomfortable jeans?
14:03:55 <nslater> help is the male and marijuna is the female plant (iirc)
14:04:01 <nslater> *hemp
14:04:29 <nslater> one buds and produces thc, the other doesnt
14:04:30 <jessica> bjoern: none.
14:05:02 <_bjoern> I won't ask how you found out.
14:05:19 <jessica> Sean: Nothing in particular. Boredom. Agoraphobia. Lack of sociability elsewhere.
14:06:15 <sbp> why a lack of sociability elsewhere?
14:07:13 <jessica> Hmm. Good question.
14:07:23 <jessica> I'm used to friends dropping by constantly, impromptu dinner parties, & c.
14:07:37 <jessica> What with finals and everyone leaving town on internships and the like, it's very much slowed down.
14:07:44 <sbp> well also, what about your other online venues?
14:07:48 <jessica> I still talk to people via AIM & c., but it doesn't provide group sociability.
14:07:50 <sbp> livejournal, joiito, and the like
14:09:09 <jessica> #joiito is strictly for picking up geek fanboys or to pick arguments. It's too large to talk to the same people twice. LiveJournal is a static medium. I write something. People respond. It's not really a give-and-take thing, it's more of a give-once, read inane comments and a few thoughtful ones, and then move on.
14:09:42 <jessica> FaceBook is, effectively, an enormous meme.
14:09:53 <sbp> it only has ten more people than we do
14:10:19 <jessica> True, but it's got a much worse signal:noise ratio. Other venues that I've partaken of include USENET but that also has deteriorated terribly.
14:11:00 <sbp> what kind of things do you think are behind good signal:noise ratios?
14:11:15 <_bjoern> USENET
14:11:34 <_bjoern> Yes, deterioration terrible.
14:11:40 <nslater> sbp: btu swhack is 90% lurkers!
14:12:14 <_bjoern> by thine utterance?
14:12:29 <jessica> I don't know. I do know that when I enter #swhack, I will get an unexpected conversation informed on virtually any topic.
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14:12:39 <_bjoern> I thought we were 90% bots.
14:12:49 <jessica> Lurking bots?
14:12:58 * nslater ^5's n5h
14:12:59 <n5h> which i don't know. there was this child once, i recall, whose parents having determined he had other ideas. ah
14:13:04 <_bjoern> They used to be more active, yes.
14:14:18 <_bjoern> swhacker swhask plum n5h JibbyBot dahut do not entice much excitement usually.
14:14:19 <n5h> (i though we permabanned him for trolling. nah, i kid. haven't used facebook
14:15:22 <_bjoern> The first hit for `phi / e / pi / g` is "VIP and PHI in the pig pancreas: coexistence, corelease, and ..."
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14:50:04 <nslater> sbp: http://orbitingfrog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/AuroraBorealis.jpg
14:54:35 <_bjoern> Someone ate too much spicy food
14:55:07 <_bjoern> headline of the day is this http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0932763320080709
14:55:08 <_bjoern> .title
14:55:09 <phenny> _bjoern: U.S. to make cluster bombs safer, but not ban them | U.S. | Reuters
14:55:09 <Monty> "you"
14:56:35 * nslater can think of a REALLY simple way to make them safer
14:58:33 <nslater> haha, http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Stressed-is-Desserts-Magnet-C11750035.jpeg
14:59:36 *** nslater changed the topic to: "Swhack: “stressed” is “desserts” spelled backwards, mkay!"
14:59:53 <_bjoern> http://www.ess.fi/upload/image/2008/6/12/435_bush_4.jpg
14:59:55 *** nslater changed the topic to: "Swhack: “stressed” is “desserts” spelled backwards, mkay! (have some caek)"
15:00:06 <nslater> sweet
15:06:55 <_bjoern> .title http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1138346620080711
15:06:56 <phenny> _bjoern: Doctors pull screws, nails from metal-eating man | U.S. | Reuters
15:11:40 <_bjoern> .c 520 million / 50000
15:11:41 <phenny> 520 million / 50 000 = ten thousand four hundred
15:12:53 <nslater> lol http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2658316482_848d71ed13_o.jpg
15:13:11 <nslater> http://i37.tinypic.com/6pcn6a.jpg
15:13:30 <_bjoern> source?
15:13:46 <nslater> source? do you know what it's parodying?
15:13:59 <nslater> flickr page here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49403380@N00/2658316482/
15:14:06 <nslater> http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/11/coyote.jpg
15:14:14 <nslater> explanation here: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/10/iran-you-suck-at-pho.html
15:14:50 <_bjoern> Well you didn't randomly guess the urls, and are unlikely to just have encountered them while clicking through flickr...
15:15:09 <nslater> actually, i found the original URL from reddit with no mention of the flickr page :)
15:15:24 <nslater> hehe, that boingboing has loads!
15:24:21 <_bjoern> http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r451/urbnbot/Iran_AirPlaneGuy.jpg
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15:38:12 <Monty> hi olt, how ya doing?
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17:46:11 <d8uv> The sad thing about my spam box is that it gets hit about every 22 minutes and 41 seconds. And it's almost entirely composed of mailer daemons complaining to me that talalla1991@d8uv.org are sending their own spams off to unreachable addresses
17:46:12 <phenny> d8uv: 11:18Z <aspect> tell d8uv this is stupid and too late but I must have been bored and missing my awk skillz: awk -F - '{score[$2]+=$1} END {for(s in score) print score[s] s}
17:51:49 <jsled> .title http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/12/igiveup-bluetooth-handset/
17:51:49 <phenny> jsled: iGiveUp Bluetooth handset - Hack a Day
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17:54:56 <zachb> Yeah, saw that yesterday on instructables
17:56:05 <jsled> Well aren't your polly quicky pants?
17:56:11 <jsled> Seeing everything before it's mentioned.
17:56:42 <jsled> s/your/you/
17:56:50 <jsled> Or maybe I'm polly slow-poke shorts.
17:57:08 <jsled> all I know is one of us is really named Polly.
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18:01:02 <_bjoern> Seems google now has the suggest as you type feature on on their main search input box
18:01:06 <_bjoern> EXCEPT that it does not work
18:01:29 <_bjoern> it does make a request for each and every character you enter
18:01:41 <_bjoern> which causes nice flickering of browser ui in Opera btw
18:01:46 <_bjoern> but then never suggests anything
18:03:04 <jsled> .swhack themaninblue
18:03:04 <phenny> jsled: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
18:03:10 <jsled> phenny: :P
18:03:59 <jsled> phenny: tell sbp about http://www.themaninblue.com/articles/handwritten_typographers/
18:03:59 <phenny> jsled: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
18:04:36 <_bjoern> not particularily reproducable it seems
18:06:31 <jsled> d8uv: did your kotaku problem get resolved?
18:07:06 <_bjoern> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/11/afghanistan.usa
18:07:08 <phenny> _bjoern: US air strike wiped out Afghan wedding party, inquiry finds | World news | guardian.co.uk
18:07:27 <_bjoern> "A US air strike killed 47 civilians, including 39 women and children, as they were travelling to a wedding in Afghanistan, an official inquiry found today. The bride was among the dead."
18:07:54 <_bjoern> "The US military initially denied any civilians had been killed."
18:12:37 <d8uv> I got an awk thing with... I don't think works
18:12:50 <d8uv> If I don't get a program, that's cool
18:13:09 <d8uv> You shouldn't need to burn calories to sate my stupid ass
18:16:45 <_bjoern> .gc "the tail wags with the dog"
18:16:46 <phenny> "the tail wags with the dog": 0
18:17:30 <_bjoern> .gc "the tail wags the dog"
18:17:30 <phenny> "the tail wags the dog": 19,500
18:33:28 <sbp> YO
18:33:28 <phenny> sbp: 18:03Z <jsled> tell sbp about http://www.themaninblue.com/articles/handwritten_typographers/
18:35:33 <sbp> jsled: ha, that's awesome. Marian Bantjes's letter is brilliant
18:36:32 <d8uv> sbp
18:37:23 <sbp> d8uv
18:37:29 <sbp> FACE
18:37:36 <sbp> also hellos
18:38:01 *** sbp changed the topic to: "<jsled> Well aren't your polly quicky pants?"
18:39:35 <d8uv> so
18:40:04 <sbp> good call on the Hamlet
18:40:18 <d8uv> Thank you
18:40:30 <d8uv> Even though you're probably gonna yell at me
18:40:47 <d8uv> As Polonius may not be, in fact, a big fancy gay
18:41:06 <d8uv> But in that scene, it works pretty well
18:41:10 <sbp> it's better than most Shakespearean editions I've read, really
18:41:35 <sbp> I've seen editions where, I'm not kidding, they have changed words to their opposite meanings in places, because they think it works better
18:41:51 <d8uv> What
18:42:18 <sbp> I remember I was reading a play once
18:42:22 <sbp> and one of the bits didn't make sense
18:42:29 <sbp> and then I read a book about the play the next day
18:42:36 <d8uv> So my stupid sophomoric substitution that I did in all of 5 minutes is better than actual scholarly subject?
18:42:49 <sbp> and it expressed its frustration at modern editors often changing that passage to its opposite meaning from the original texts
18:42:52 <sbp> and I was like "...aha"
18:42:58 <sbp> pretty much, yeah
18:43:06 <sbp> man, I could go into the history of this
18:43:13 <sbp> there is a *history* of terrible amendments
18:43:28 <sbp> I think Warburton was the peak. he went through all the texts just changing and fixing things pretty much at random
18:43:30 <d8uv> That's both completely awesome, and horribly depressing
18:43:37 <sbp> he was a good scholar in other respects, but as an editor, dear oh dear
18:43:45 <sbp> but this goes on and on
18:44:02 <sbp> there are two versions of King Lear, and two of Hamlet, for example
18:44:27 <sbp> what happened, as far as we know, is that one version was made, then they changed it a bit (either Shakespeare or the playing company) and then played the new one for some years too
18:44:34 <sbp> but what do you think modern editors do?
18:44:45 <sbp> presumably either choose one or the other, or print both of them, right?
18:44:49 <sbp> BZZT
18:44:58 <sbp> they try to work out a "medium" version between the two
18:45:10 <sbp> taking some passages from one play and others from the other
18:45:21 <sbp> creating a confusing text that never before existed
18:45:43 <sbp> seriously, calling Polonius a big fancy gay is one of the least stupid emendments in the history of Shakespearean editing
18:50:43 <d8uv> ...
18:50:50 <d8uv> So I should try harder?
18:51:12 <sbp> heh, heh
18:51:24 <sbp> I don't think there's anything you can do to be that bad
18:51:31 <sbp> remember, these guys are serious!
18:51:52 <sbp> they're made of exceptional luls
18:53:05 <d8uv> Queen Gertrude: Good Hamlet, cast thy nighted colour off, And let thine eye look like a friend on Denmark. Do not for ever with thy vailed lids Seek for thy noble father in the dust: Thou know'st 'tis common; all that lives must die, Passing through nature to eternity.
18:53:24 <d8uv> Hamlet: Fuck off, bitch. I'm gonna go nom on some ham sandwiches.
18:53:24 <Monty> potty mouth!
18:53:41 <d8uv> How's that?
18:53:55 <sbp> psychologically makes sense, because Hamlet is continually avoiding his responsiblity
18:55:21 <sbp> you could just cut a bit of Timon of Athens out and smack it in the middle
18:55:22 <Monty> difficult to signal an interrupt, or knock some fit scousers, but I'll pass that pdt?
18:55:23 <sbp> that would work
18:55:34 <sbp> Timon of Athens is a mad experimental play that nobody likes
18:55:58 <sbp> though it's funny because I was reading Wikipedia the other day, and it said that there's only one play which has never been adapted for movie or television
18:56:05 <sbp> The Two Noble Kinsmen
18:56:18 <sbp> so Timon of Athens must have been adapted for movie or television somewhere...
18:56:35 <sbp> bet that would be miasmariffically interesting to watch
18:56:40 <d8uv> See the sad thing is that I actually read Hamlet and kinda know what to do for the best nerd comic effect
18:56:47 <sbp> yeah, heh
18:57:00 <sbp> I realised that
18:58:18 <d8uv> I don't know about Timon of Athens
18:58:29 <d8uv> But... an anime of it would totally be awesome
18:58:45 <sbp> hehe
18:58:52 <sbp> hmm. quite possibly
18:58:59 <sbp> oh man
18:59:08 <d8uv> ?
18:59:10 <sbp> I actually saw a comic of Henry V the other day
18:59:14 <sbp> I have to show you this
18:59:16 <sbp> it's hilarious
18:59:18 <sbp> they did two versions
18:59:22 <sbp> one with the original text
18:59:24 <sbp> and one for dumb people
18:59:27 <sbp> hang on, it's really funny
19:00:05 <Tene> http://www.hackaday.com/2008/07/12/igiveup-bluetooth-handset/
19:00:25 <sbp> oh! three versions
19:00:26 <sbp> d8uv:
19:00:27 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/press/HenryVOrigAct1.pdf
19:00:33 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/press/HenryVPlainAct1.pdf
19:00:41 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/press/HenryVQuickAct1.pdf
19:00:49 <sbp> AW THEY REMOVED 'EM
19:01:06 <sbp> AW THE WEB ARCHIVE DOESN'T HAVE THEM
19:01:08 <d8uv> It's OK
19:01:24 <d8uv> Garfield Minus Garfield is better
19:01:28 <sbp> heh, heh
19:01:52 <d8uv> And... that makes me want to make Calvin and Hobbes Minus Hobbes really badly
19:02:16 <d8uv> (http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/)
19:02:47 <sbp> ah!
19:02:49 <sbp> win!
19:02:57 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/images/samples/PDFs/HenryV_OriginalText.pdf
19:03:03 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/images/samples/PDFs/HenryV_PlainText.pdf
19:03:09 <sbp> * http://www.classicalcomics.com/images/samples/PDFs/HenryV_QuickText.pdf
19:05:00 <d8uv> Hahaha, the Original Text one is...
19:05:09 <sbp> isn't it great?
19:05:19 <sbp> it's so funny for such subtle reasons
19:05:25 <d8uv> Hold on lemme stop lolling
19:05:28 <sbp> hehe
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19:12:40 <d8uv> It's like
19:12:55 <sbp> seven minutes of lol is quite a lot
19:13:31 <d8uv> The Original Text version is stilted and stiff, too much so for the comic
19:14:24 * Arnia boings
19:14:39 <d8uv> The plain text version still had the stick shoved firmly up it's ass, but... looks like it was written by someone who is far too proud of their abilities
19:15:20 <d8uv> And the quick text version is just so hilariously awkward and *wrong*
19:15:40 <sbp> hehe. yo Arnia