00:00:11 <kpreid> Normal termination of an InStream means "you got my whole underlying value"; abnormal means you got some prefix of it
00:00:46 <kpreid> Anyway, size :: M -> Maybe Integer would permit explicit unboundedness but not implicit unboundedness
00:01:03 <kpreid> (explicit as in "You can determine it is infinite in finite time")
00:04:42 <kpreid> Now for another question: what do I name this?
00:06:03 <kpreid> In the language and style I am doing this, there is a concrete object which is this monoid-with-bells-and-whistles
00:06:17 <kpreid> so I need a name for it
00:07:14 <kpreid> StreamData is not quite right, in that per convention the name "StreamData" would logically refer to the *type of* values of this sort (eg the value "abc"); the name "streamData" would refer to some such value
00:07:26 <Arnia> Dividoid :p
00:07:36 <Arnia> but you do have a monad, incidentally
00:07:43 <kpreid> Rather I must name the object which is the set of values and the operations
00:07:46 <kpreid> Oh?
00:08:14 <kpreid> I don't see having any of fmap/join/bind
00:08:49 <Arnia> You have a unit with components M -> U(F(M))
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00:09:14 <kpreid> what's F?
00:09:18 <Arnia> Which effectively unpacks the monoid (turning it into a list or free monoid) and then takes its underlying set
00:09:27 <Arnia> Freeness functor
00:09:33 <kpreid> .gc dividoid
00:09:34 <phenny> dividoid: 2
00:09:42 <Arnia> Actually, technically this is U(M) -> U(F(U(M)))
00:10:07 <Arnia> hm
00:10:09 <kpreid> Heh, one of those hits is an OCR typo
00:10:38 <kpreid> "100. Principle--The product of the divisor and quotient, plus the remainder, is equal to the dividend[dividoid]."
00:11:14 <kpreid> (the bit in brackets being my addition of what google evidently matched; the rest being a book text image)
00:11:51 <Arnia> Your monad is UF, your unit is the unit of the adjunction and your join is the standard one induced by the co-unit
00:12:23 <Arnia> What you effectively have then is the list monad
00:12:29 * Arnia blinks
00:12:40 <Arnia> That's a bit surprising
00:13:00 <Arnia> your use of take and drop was actually entirely accurate and not analogous at all :)
00:13:19 <kpreid> Well
00:13:38 <Arnia> Ok, not quite the list monad... but something very close
00:13:46 <kpreid> If you can measure them with integers, then you can break any M into size-1 elements and put those in a list
00:14:19 <Arnia> Or rather the list monad applied to the commutative monad of sets
00:15:03 <Arnia> really then what you want to do is say that a type is a dividoid if and only if it can be given a traversal
00:15:29 <Arnia> (that is, a flattening into a list) which can be reversed
00:16:27 <Arnia> Which does rule out trees
00:16:46 <Arnia> but not zippers
00:16:57 <Arnia> make sense?
00:17:14 <Arnia> Is that a good enough sufficient condition for your purposes?
00:18:21 <kpreid> I think so
00:18:33 <kpreid> Hm
00:19:00 <kpreid> Does that mean that e.g. sequences of SAX callbacks form elements of a zipper?
00:19:15 <kpreid> (Overly concrete but it's what came to mind)
00:19:15 <Monty> E_INVALID_BROWSER
00:19:35 <Arnia> They do include enough context to know where in the tree they are being generated from so I'd say yeah
00:19:41 <Arnia> SAX as a zipper... good grief
00:24:18 <kpreid> Well, if you want to stuff a tree down a pipe, that's the sort of thing you do
00:24:20 <kpreid> Right?
00:25:47 <Arnia> yeah
00:28:22 <kpreid> Actually:
00:28:39 <kpreid> it is surprising to me that fragments of linearizations of trees are zippers
00:28:56 <kpreid> Are they really?
00:29:23 <kpreid> Oh, hm, at least they are for a sexp-type tree:
00:30:13 <kpreid> 3 cases by example: (...), hole at the root. ...)), hole at the left, 2 levels down. ((..., hole at the right, 2 levels down
00:30:34 <kpreid> However, (... <hole> ...) is not a fragment of a linearization
00:32:25 <Arnia> Correct... but a zipper basically turns a tree at a certain point into a list of fragments heading back to the root
00:33:05 <Arnia> So, your type is no longer the same (it includes a cursor wrapper) but otherwise
00:33:08 <Arnia> ...
00:33:35 <Arnia> Essentially the cursor wrappers are like bracketing and you just keep concatting
00:34:06 <kpreid> it's not a linearization-fragment if the fragments are on both sides; they must be on one side
00:34:08 <kpreid> Oh wait
00:34:14 <kpreid> 4th case:
00:34:22 <kpreid> "...) (..."
00:34:34 <kpreid> (where ... stands for subtrees, not holes)
00:34:48 <kpreid> That's no (one-hole) zipper
00:35:58 <Arnia> Take a Tree String, you can reversibly construct a traversal Tree String -> List (String + Bracket)
00:36:26 <kpreid> Yup
00:36:31 <kpreid> That's a linearization...
00:36:37 <kpreid> How does it relate to a zipper
00:36:37 <kpreid> ?
00:39:02 <Arnia> every subtree on the path the zipper represents can be linearised to LBrack `mappend` linearise subtree `mappend` RBrack
00:39:33 <kpreid> Sure, but that doesn't capture the left-or-right structure
00:39:48 <Arnia> The zipper just provides a clean way of doing that operation starting from an arbitrary point
00:40:02 <Arnia> Oh, that was the undirected tree version
00:40:18 <Arnia> LBrackL linearise RBrackL?
00:40:27 <kpreid> Something like that
00:41:05 <kpreid> Anyway, my point was just that your "Which does rule out trees, but not zippers" was .. not the whole story, at least
00:41:21 <Arnia> yes. apologies
00:41:22 <kpreid> You can linearize a zipper, sure, but that doesn't mean the zipper is a dividoid
00:41:42 <kpreid> But the linearization of anything is a dividoid
00:41:55 <Arnia> I'd say that any structure which may be reversibly linearised is a dividoid
00:42:05 <kpreid> That's better
00:42:16 <kpreid> Wait, no
00:42:35 <kpreid> You can linearize a tree, but there are divisions of it which are not trees.
00:42:59 <kpreid> Therefore no tree type is a dividoid
00:43:01 <Arnia> class Monoid m => Dividoid a b where linearise :: a -> m b; delinearise :: m b -> a
00:43:23 <kpreid> Ah...yes
00:43:37 <kpreid> That's a better way of putting it
00:44:01 <kpreid> Wait, no
00:44:13 <kpreid> Not ...gah I'm confusing myself
00:44:19 <Arnia> (btw, http://jasonsantamaria.com/articles/a-new-day/ is cool)
00:44:32 <Arnia> kpreid: your type needs to have a separate fragment type
00:44:33 <kpreid> Most dividoids have no 'a'
00:44:38 <Arnia> and strictly a -> b
00:44:47 <kpreid> e.g. plain lists
00:45:01 <kpreid> Or you could say (per your above class) Dividoid [a] [a], but that would be silly
00:45:15 <Arnia> instance Dividoid [a] a where linearise = id; delinearise = id
00:45:20 <kpreid> Yah
00:45:31 <kpreid> But that's not what I want to work with
00:45:37 <Arnia> Why is that silly? It is saying that a list is already linearised
00:45:47 <Arnia> surely an important statement
00:46:02 <kpreid> You have an m which is parameterized; I need to not require that
00:46:22 <kpreid> I think you may have shifted terminology
00:46:22 <Arnia> You needn't require it, but there is nothing wrong with fixing it for *your* case
00:46:44 <kpreid> Per previously, a dividoid is not about linearization; it is about splitting and joining
00:46:54 <kpreid> i.e. the operations on the already-linearized
00:47:11 <Arnia> I'm just leaving it open here to make clear that even non-monoidal types can be linearised
00:47:20 <kpreid> THe class with linearise and delinearisae is a further layer
00:47:22 <Arnia> kpreid: yes, but you wanted to know what types could be manipulated
00:47:25 <kpreid> additional features
00:47:46 <Arnia> and the condition I found was that there exist a linearisation. You can then trivially provide take and drop
00:47:47 <kpreid> Yes, thanks, but you stepped on my previous well-formed world :)
00:48:00 <kpreid> Hm
00:48:14 <kpreid> But delinearize in your class is necessarily a partial function, no?
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00:48:48 <Arnia> Ok, then change the signature to delinearise :: m b -> Maybe a
00:49:05 <kpreid> Actually, consider this
00:50:03 <kpreid> data Del a m b = Del (m b -> Either (a, Del a m b)); delinearize :: Del
00:50:09 <kpreid> Whoops, not quite
00:50:25 <kpreid> data Del a m b = Del (m b -> Either (m b, a) (Del a m b)); delinearize :: Del
00:50:37 <kpreid> What do you think?
00:51:12 <kpreid> ('data' just for breaking type recursion)
00:52:26 <Arnia> Hm. Is the second m b (in the left of the Either) the rest of the monoid?
00:52:32 <kpreid> Yeah
00:52:42 <kpreid> It's the leftover bit after a whole tree
00:52:42 <Arnia> And the right?
00:52:52 <kpreid> the right is "give me more"
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00:53:02 <kpreid> Basically this is the type of a parser
00:53:10 <Arnia> Yeah. That makes sense
00:53:35 <kpreid> delinearization = parsing
00:53:35 <Arnia> In which case, you're dealing with a monadic parser/pretty printer pair
00:53:48 <Arnia> for which plenty of libraries exist
00:54:02 <kpreid> Note that this type is suitable only for self-delimiting structures -- that is, the end is recognizable
00:54:02 <Arnia> (not that it is particularly hard to write a monadic parser or pretty printer)
00:54:21 <kpreid> As opposed to "We're at EOF, must be done"
00:54:56 <Arnia> yes, although the distinction between the two isn't so massive
00:55:09 <Arnia> (just declare for each type a an EOF_a token)
00:55:12 <kpreid> YOu need to introduce an eof input
00:55:20 <kpreid> Anyway
00:55:35 <kpreid> This is interesting but not necessary for the foundation of my streams :)
00:55:39 <Arnia> hope I haven't confused you too much with this
00:55:47 <kpreid> Thanks for the discussion
00:55:59 <Arnia> np
00:56:18 <kpreid> So. Do you have any complaint about:
00:57:24 <kpreid> class Monoid d => Dividoid d where
00:57:24 <kpreid> split :: Integer -> d -> (d, d)
00:57:24 <kpreid> sized :: Integer -> d -> Bool
00:57:37 <kpreid> Did I miss anything, is it too general, is it too specific?
00:57:46 <kpreid> Hm
00:58:16 <kpreid> sized is basically not . isEmpty . snd . split (ignoring arity vs composition)
00:59:01 <Arnia> That can work... but I reckon just introduce a FiniteMonoid class:
00:59:26 <Arnia> class Monoid m => FiniteMonoid m where
00:59:27 <Arnia> msize :: m -> Integer
00:59:53 <Arnia> Then use a generic traversal
01:00:02 <Arnia> actually, I'm getting way too haskelly here
01:00:12 <Arnia> Yeah, that's fine for other languages :p
01:01:02 <kpreid> Explain generic traversal?
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01:05:03 <jessica> "Bender, being God isn't easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket." "Or a guy who burns down a bar for the insurance money." "Yes, if he makes it look like an electrical thing."
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01:38:52 <zachb> Nice
01:39:43 <zachb> http://www.hacker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=691 -- the 2nd post by the author made me burst into laughter with pity
01:39:59 <zachb> ("Nice" was @ jessica)
01:40:26 <jessica> Futurama, 3d season. :)
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01:53:42 <zachb> How would one mispronounce "Boolean"?
01:53:58 <zachb> I just read something where someone said how to pronounce it...
01:53:58 <Monty> rad
01:54:07 <zachb> Hush, Monty
01:54:07 <Monty> pft
01:54:13 <zachb> Seriously, STFU
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01:58:16 <Monty> lo FocusLocus
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02:11:13 <deltab> zachb: hmm... "boo-lean", perhaps?
02:11:43 <zachb> That's what I say when I'm buying meat
02:12:31 <zachb> I guess, though
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02:34:34 * zachb is understanding more Haskell
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02:51:34 <Arnia> zachb: good
02:53:15 <zachb> No monad talks yet though :P
02:54:35 <aspect> a talking monad would be a sight to see
02:54:45 <zachb> I wonder what it would say
02:55:11 <Arnia> join unit!
02:55:33 <zachb> :P
02:55:36 <Arnia> Oh dear. I now imagine a monad with the job of recruitment officer for UNIT in Doctor Who
02:55:44 <Arnia> .wik UNIT (Doctor Who)
02:55:44 <phenny> "UNIT (United Nations Intelligence Taskforce, later the Unified Intelligence Taskforce) is a fictional military organisation from the British science fiction television series Doctor Who." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIT_(Doctor_Who)
02:56:00 <zachb> I wish I could watch Dr. Who easily
02:57:04 <chandler> I'm getting it on Sci Fi, which is better than not getting it at all / torrenting it / YouTubing it
02:57:18 <zachb> Oh really?
02:57:29 <zachb> I guess I should have looked harder
02:57:46 <chandler> it's on Friday nights
02:58:50 <zachb> Thanks
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03:17:16 <Arnia> zachb: or you could go right back to 1963 :p
03:19:39 <zachb> Whoo!
03:20:22 <Arnia> The first doctor was very grumpy
03:20:24 <deltab> it's the day after JFK was assassinated, you can't miss it
03:22:53 <zachb> Heh
03:26:49 <Arnia> 'Tis true
03:26:54 <Arnia> The Unearthly Child
03:27:37 <Arnia> On BBC (can't remember if BBC Two had even started then, I think it only started in 1964 so when Doctor Who began there was only BBC and ITV)
03:36:29 <deltab> BBC 2 launched 20 April 1964
03:47:38 <Arnia> aha, thank you
03:48:15 * Arnia hands deltab a marmite sandwich
03:48:44 <deltab> thanks!
03:48:50 * Arnia makes another for zachb
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05:27:06 <cre8radix> heya
05:31:49 * Arnia unravels cre8radix
05:32:43 * cre8radix feels like an ex-mystery
05:33:40 * Arnia coils the remains of cre8radix up and shoves them in his pocket
05:35:45 * cre8radix drops thru the hole and regorges over the pavement
05:44:56 * Arnia turns the pavement to quicksilver and taps out a few commands on his keyboard which bring up the reintegrated cre8radix
05:45:23 * Arnia forwards cre8radix by email to RMS
05:45:57 <cre8radix> hrhr
05:46:34 * cre8radix bounces and gets lost in datanirvana
05:46:47 * Arnia watches as cre8radix is deleted for not being GPL compatible
05:47:11 <Arnia> you weren't published with source code
05:47:33 <Arnia> just DNA bytecode
05:48:03 <Arnia> hm. Interesting thought that... DNA as bytecode
05:48:29 <Arnia> Proteins as the machine state
05:48:39 * Arnia wonders what a source-code could be in that case
05:49:34 <Arnia> I'm sceptical that the universe was written in bytecode. I suspect that the source code, whilst fiendishly complex, is very much a convenience
05:50:06 * Arnia decides to cogitate on this awkward interface between epistemology and metaphysics some more, later
05:50:11 <jessica> Interestingly, I'm having a conversation in another channel about the episode of Futurama where Bender spoke to God in binary.
05:50:18 <cre8radix> ;P
05:51:10 <jsled> god is a number.
05:52:12 <jessica> 42?
05:52:37 <jsled> 0111101 says Sleater Kinney.
05:53:25 <Arnia> I don't think it is wise to even speculate on the nature of a creator deity without having the capability to think in terms of non-linear, continuum causality
05:53:25 <jessica> If I reflect that in a mirror, does that read REDRUM?
05:54:10 <jessica> Unfortunately, I can't do that unless I've taken some really *killer* stuff, and I didn't prepare for this conversation the way I did political science classes in college.
05:54:42 * Arnia gets frustrated by people who cannot understand time travel
05:54:56 <Arnia> Not how to do it, but the idea of paradoxes etc. They're so obvious :/
05:55:10 * jessica is recategorising her blog's tagging system and fixing up a lot of blog sloppiness generally, and this means going through old entries. I find this in a comment from me to someone else. "Then again, it was M. Sartre who said L'enfer, c'est les autres, particularly true for someone with Simone de Beauvoir about the house."
05:57:21 <Arnia> It is interesting though... the illusion of linear time is enforced by causality, as we can only ever (from our perspective within it) see a single thread of causality
05:58:13 <Arnia> doesn't mean that the rest of it isn't there, it is just over a local maxima away
05:58:31 <Arnia> (maxima of entropy)
05:58:33 <jessica> But as we're bound to our mechanisms, this is all wankery.
05:58:56 * Arnia cleaves cre8radix from his local linear causality by imposing a maxima of entropy between them
05:59:20 <Arnia> or is it a minima of entropy
05:59:27 <Arnia> oh yes, a minima
05:59:58 * Arnia finds the direction changes needed in his very haptic thought processes become unstuck on describing entropy
06:00:36 * Arnia feels cre8radix up to demonstrate
06:04:27 <Arnia> The problem with entropy is things tend towards where there is more of it (although that's an illusion itself; it is just the thread of events which makes it seem like things are situated in time in my opinion) which means neat metaphors about rolling balls down a valley become unstuck. These balls try to get to the top of hills
06:04:43 * Arnia lobs a bowling ball at nsh
06:05:04 * Arnia feels that the IFF is important here
06:05:23 <Arnia> Quite how is a lifetime's practice of philosophy in itself :/
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06:32:07 <Monty> lo dpawson_
06:36:47 <sbp> yo
06:37:10 <dpawson_> sbp, Morning! Lovely and sunny!
06:38:04 <sbp> yes! the dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free
06:38:10 <sbp> silhouetted by the sea
06:38:15 <sbp> with all memory and fate
06:38:19 <sbp> driven deep beneath the waves
06:38:27 <sbp> let me forget about today until tomorrow!
06:38:36 <sbp> interesting clouds this morning
06:38:40 <sbp> they look like frost
06:39:31 <dpawson_> Harrumph. Poetic on a Sunday morning. Indeed.
06:41:39 <nslater> hey sbp
06:42:07 <nslater> frosty clouds eh
06:42:55 * dpawson_ Wonder if he's talking about his breakfast cereal?
06:47:38 <sbp> [[[
06:47:38 <sbp> The Pope has urged young people to stay away from the "spiritual desert" he says is spreading across the world, at the end of his trip to Australia.
06:47:45 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7515888.stm
06:47:53 <sbp> .gcs "spiritual desert" "spiritual dessert"
06:47:55 <phenny> "spiritual desert" (15,000), "spiritual dessert" (213)
06:48:05 <nslater> thats how I read it
06:48:32 <sbp> advice: "build a new age free from greed"
06:49:15 <sbp> like, not wrath or any of the other sins?
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06:52:17 <sbp> this is great: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7514035.stm
06:52:19 <sbp> .title
06:52:20 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Beijingers told to mind their manners
06:52:27 <nslater> .title http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/wellbeing/story/0,,2291212,00.html
06:52:29 <phenny> nslater: Last year I killed a man | Health and wellbeing | Life and Health
06:52:38 * nslater shudders
06:53:14 * Arnia puzzles over getting a friend request from a piece of software
06:53:43 <Arnia> OpenCalais appears to have achieved sentience ahead of schedule. Sorry Monty; you were a little too slow.
06:53:48 <nslater> wow, that wasnt the best article to start my day with
06:53:48 <Monty> To put those things 'practical'. The intended to allow established in M has 35 passes (0xF6, 0x00,
06:55:07 <sbp> nslater: good grief
06:55:45 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7515829.stm
06:55:46 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Missing Semtex 'left unguarded'
06:55:47 <Monty> ahhhh.
06:55:53 <nslater> phew, I found the antidote to depressing article: http://home.pacbell.net/bettychu/2005allbreedbisris/
06:56:03 <sbp> hahaha
06:56:45 <Arnia> Wow
06:56:58 * Arnia adds that to his bookmarks for cheer up material
06:57:01 <sbp> ( ¨ )
06:57:10 <cre8radix> :)
06:57:13 <Arnia> It is better than the Party Ferret
06:58:54 <Arnia> Imagine if you will, a photograph of an 18 or 19 year old clubber. Imagine the maniacal expression, the exuberance, the sheer energy. Imagine that look on a ferret.
06:59:03 <sbp> hehe
06:59:06 <nslater> .title http://www.bfi.org/node/25
06:59:07 <Arnia> In a foil birthday hat
06:59:08 <phenny> nslater: The Fuller Projection Map | The Buckminster Fuller Institute
06:59:09 <nslater> hmm!
06:59:30 <nslater> you have to purchase the map! they wont provide a royalty free, sharable version
06:59:45 <nslater> see the comments
07:00:40 <sbp> yeah, fail
07:00:42 * Arnia sends nslater a party ferret
07:01:52 <Arnia> has anyone else (who uses Facebook or otherwise) received a message from OpenCalais?
07:01:58 <nslater> not me
07:02:01 <sbp> nope
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07:02:13 <nslater> but I get facebook/twitter spam all the time fwiw
07:02:20 <Arnia> I don't
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07:02:23 <Arnia> So this is odd
07:02:28 * Arnia puzzles
07:02:39 <sbp> "and Vala thrusts her wrath cup upon Jerusalem"
07:02:59 * Arnia sends sbp to Philadelphos
07:03:04 <sbp> aw
07:03:19 <Arnia> To marry your sister, or convenient close female relative of your choice
07:03:23 <jessica> lord
07:03:28 <jessica> I'm on another IRC channel..
07:03:39 <Arnia> well that's silly
07:03:43 <jessica> Talking to someone who randomly wandered in. small network, he's relatively new to the Internet.
07:04:15 <nslater> jessica: if you play your cards right you could turn him into a lolcow
07:04:16 <jessica> He's a kid, maybe 19-ish, at university.
07:04:34 <sbp> I say send him to Vladivostok
07:04:41 <sbp> being "19". pfft
07:04:43 <jessica> I'm explaining to him the facts of life. Such as that chick hanging out in your bedroom at 2 a.m. on a Sunday morning? Whether you dumped her or not, she's still your girlfriend.
07:04:45 <sbp> he should be in Vladivostok
07:04:48 <nslater> no, send me to vladivostok : : : ( ( (
07:04:53 <sbp> ôrite
07:05:04 <nslater> jessica: not true
07:05:20 * Arnia sends vladivostok to nslater
07:05:21 <sbp> yeah. if he dumped her, she's not
07:05:22 <nslater> : : : ( ( (
07:05:26 <jessica> ...
07:05:30 <Arnia> Be careful of the bubble wrap
07:05:41 <jessica> If neither party understands the new boundaries, then apparently the severance hasn't been effective.
07:05:47 <Arnia> Large quantities may cause lethal joy
07:05:50 <sbp> man, that must be some bubblewrap
07:05:56 <sbp> jessica: maybe he's just a shit orator
07:06:15 <sbp> you're wrong, in any case
07:06:19 <Arnia> sbp: she probably isn't if he's still sleeping with her
07:06:25 <jessica> Quite possible. But when faced with the young, I must steer them clear.
07:06:25 <nslater> women have an annoying tendancy to be quite deceptive when it comes to motives for things, she may only be there because she didn't fancy going home for the night because he parents were having a strop
07:06:28 <jessica> He is still banging her.
07:06:30 <sbp> Arnia: he might just be doing it for the luls
07:06:38 <jessica> Irregularly. But she's there daily.
07:06:42 <Arnia> sbp: Is he a tube driver?
07:06:45 <jessica> And has keys.
07:06:54 <sbp> could be. he *is* 19...
07:06:57 <jessica> So that effectively rules out him bringing home any action.
07:06:59 <Arnia> Or just an irrational commuter
07:07:20 <nslater> keys...
07:07:23 * Arnia commutes nslater with a chipmunk he found whilst packing up the city
07:07:26 <sbp> what, commutes up some dishrag's vagina instead of to work?
07:07:31 <Arnia> nslater: values....
07:07:42 <Arnia> observing?
07:07:44 <nslater> heh
07:07:49 * Arnia just made a Cocoa joke
07:07:52 <Arnia> That's a new low
07:07:55 <nslater> swapping keys at 19 is pretty extreem
07:08:10 <sbp> he should be swapping keys with Vladivostok
07:08:13 <Arnia> nslater: nono... X-TREAM
07:08:14 <nslater> NO!
07:08:24 <nslater> I should be swapping X with vladivostok
07:08:26 <Arnia> nslater: are you jealous?
07:08:30 <nslater> you only keep mentioning it to make me upset
07:08:33 <sbp> you have to admit, X-TREAM is pretty coolcakes
07:08:50 <nslater> Arnia: of having someone in my bed on a sunday morning? or vladivostok?
07:08:55 <jessica> nslater tell me about it.
07:08:59 <nslater> yeah, X-TREAM is pretty good
07:09:01 <jessica> but you know how it is for young ones.
07:09:08 * Arnia sends sbp St Petersberg
07:09:09 <jessica> They mystically found their One True Love their first month of uni.
07:09:10 <sbp> he's not young
07:09:18 <sbp> he's old enough to be in Vladivostok, or a tube driver
07:09:49 <Arnia> A Vladivostok tube-driver with a penchant for overly fluffy bunnies and party ferrets?
07:09:55 <nslater> jessica: stop being such a cynic
07:10:00 <sbp> ( ¨ )
07:10:02 <Arnia> nslater: both
07:10:25 <Arnia> Ooh, we should cross-breed party ferrets with ( ¨ )
07:10:32 <sbp> in ascii?
07:10:36 <nslater> well, I have the first though she doesnt have keys and I don't have the second - I would prefer it the other way around tbh
07:10:42 <Arnia> What's ASCII for a party ferret?
07:10:47 <sbp> good question
07:10:56 <sbp> I will now google for Party Ferret
07:11:09 <nslater> which reminds me, I really didn't mean to stay awake this long, I should go back to bed, you damn swhackers sidetracking me like always
07:11:15 <Arnia> nslater: so you'd prefer Vladivostok to have keys and for her to be a city at the other end of the Trans-Siberian railway?
07:11:28 <nslater> no, *I* want to be in russia
07:11:29 <sbp> right. this was a result: http://www.gcfa.com/Holiday%20party%202005/norine%20ferret%202.jpg
07:11:46 <Arnia> Not the one I was thinking of
07:11:47 <jessica> nslater, what if I want to be a follower of Diogenes of Sinope?
07:11:58 * nslater shrugs
07:12:00 <sbp> searching for things on the internet is just a bad idea
07:12:13 <nslater> sbp, that reminds me of a final solution
07:12:15 * nslater rummages
07:16:48 <nslater> oh man, I can't find it
07:18:16 <Arnia> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/2856/Rusty/rustytonguebest.jpg
07:18:21 <Arnia> Close but not the right one
07:18:24 * Arnia grumbles
07:18:29 <Arnia> Had it somewhere I'm sure...
07:18:37 <nslater> oh man
07:18:39 <sbp> hmm, this might be able to be asciied. let's see
07:18:42 <nslater> that looks like a cock
07:19:41 <sbp> nope, fail
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07:20:31 <Arnia> Aha! http://www.mosscat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bday_ferret.jpeg
07:20:42 <Arnia> Say hello to the party ferret
07:20:51 <nslater> sbp: in leu of ED fail, one of the final solutions to the internet is to STOP FOLLOWING ALL LINKS... it's the only way to avoid seeing goatse, &c
07:20:54 * nslater sulks
07:21:31 <Arnia> nslater: you should take Vladivostok to bed with you. I wouldn't recommend carrying her over the boundary though.
07:21:45 * nslater notes this down
07:21:46 <Arnia> Would cause all sorts of geo-political problems if you allow the borders to cross
07:22:03 <Arnia> But, first, note the party ferret and relax
07:22:10 <nslater> relax?
07:22:13 <nslater> RELAX?!
07:22:14 <Arnia> Nothing is bad if you have a bunny and a party ferret
07:22:22 <nslater> R E L A X ! ? ! 1 1
07:22:31 <Arnia> nslater: Yes, relax. But without the R or the X
07:22:42 * nslater elas
07:22:44 <Arnia> Just 'ela' softly to yourself
07:23:13 <sbp> I imagine that ferret is saying "PPAAAaartttuh"
07:23:21 <nslater> lol
07:23:40 <Arnia> It is the mating call of the Lesser Spotted City
07:24:07 * Arnia imagines New York mating, shudders and realises it is currently having sex with various parts of New Jersey and shuts up
07:24:13 <sbp> I love reading old science books
07:24:25 <sbp> I'm reading one that says the world is now more than five thousand years old
07:24:26 <Arnia> Bet you love bubble wrap more
07:24:27 <Monty> guess: the Pope...?
07:24:32 <sbp> and I'm thinking "well, it's not wrong"
07:24:36 <sbp> Arnia: yeah, probably
07:24:42 * Arnia provides an infinite supply of bubble wrap
07:24:46 <sbp> woah
07:24:54 <sbp> won't that cause bubble wrap inflation?
07:24:57 <sbp> wait, that'll be even better!
07:25:09 <Arnia> There is a whole universe of improbability just opened up between nslater's ears
07:25:15 <Arnia> I'm just taking advantage
07:25:42 <nslater> sbp, new entry for the palmer weird shit scale (tm)
07:25:44 <nslater> http://thehomebased.com/?p=67
07:25:49 <nslater> not sure what number to place it at
07:26:35 <nslater> this one really gets me http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8190/park06sw5.jpg
07:26:42 <Arnia> Reminds me of a place in Weymouth
07:27:00 <Arnia> Which was more gruesome and terrifying than that
07:27:05 <Arnia> And was a kids attraction
07:27:20 * Arnia misses proper Grimm style upbringings
07:27:36 <nslater> "it's a trap" http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00360/January_15_360657a.jpg
07:28:55 * jessica smirks
07:28:59 <jessica> pederasty city.
07:29:20 <Arnia> The place in Weymouth, the Haunted Cellar, was an underground maze, in the dark with 'exhibits' which were motion activated by you passing them. They included a scene of mass murder and self-goring, a suicide in a bath, various people hanged, decapitated and mutilated, and all this with sound and no way to turn back once you were in
07:29:34 <nslater> wow
07:29:38 <Arnia> Oh, there was a house fire too
07:29:40 <Arnia> Great fun
07:29:44 <nslater> any particular theme?
07:29:45 * jessica played with nickserv's functions and added bunches and bunches of metadata to her nickserv info, which was wholly unnecessary. insomnia is great until you actually want to get something done.
07:29:57 <nslater> like, you get stuff like that in most cities called "york dungeon" etc
07:30:12 <Arnia> nslater: great crimes and scenes of personal brutality in human history
07:30:20 <nslater> "great"
07:30:33 <Arnia> (as in, genocide doesn't count because it is rarely a personal matter)
07:31:04 <Arnia> So you had the case of a victorian woman who poisoned all her children with arsenic being strangled by their skeletons
07:31:12 <Arnia> This isn't like York Dungeon
07:31:24 <Arnia> The thing closest to that in Weymouth is the Timewalk
07:31:59 <nslater> jessica: for me, I find that the more tired I am, the more likely it is that I find my self on websites called "lol around the clock" bearing photos of old women cooking nazi cookies
07:31:59 <Arnia> (which is heavily fixated for much of the first part on the Black Death since it entered England through Weymouth)
07:32:09 <nslater> (fact)
07:32:20 <Arnia> that wasn't a fact (fact)
07:32:23 <nslater> yes it was
07:32:46 <Arnia> I'll reclaim Siberia from you unless you button your lip
07:32:57 <nslater> pls see http://lolz247.com/2008/07/19/whos-hungry-for-some-hate/
07:33:14 * Arnia begins arranging for sbp to marry Tunguska
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07:33:32 <Arnia> Not the place, the event
07:34:16 <nslater> oh man, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/24/ebay_african_slaves/
07:34:28 <nslater> right... enough of this mindless nonsense, I'm going back to bed .o/
07:34:41 * Arnia view the Register as being not much above the Sun
07:34:48 <nslater> heh
07:34:51 <Arnia> views
07:35:04 * Arnia kindnaps nslater's bed
07:35:09 <Arnia> And that isn't a typo :p
07:35:23 <nslater> !
07:36:19 <Arnia> Why be extensional? Everyone just kidnaps concrete things
07:36:26 <Arnia> I've decided to branch out and take entire concepts
07:36:29 <jessica> do we really want sbp married?
07:36:32 <jessica> to an event, no less?
07:36:36 <Arnia> Intensional burglary
07:36:45 <jessica> he'd inseminate at least some of the birds there, eh? we'd have little sbps running about.
07:36:46 <Arnia> jessica: two words: time loop
07:37:19 <Arnia> Sort of like Mrs Berlinermauer
07:37:33 <Arnia> who lives two decades over and over again
07:38:19 * Arnia steals truth and beauty from nslater's bedside drawer and flogs them to a passing string theorist's convention
07:39:19 <sbp> .title http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/21/ebayer_sells_nothing/
07:39:19 <jessica> http://xkcd.com/171/
07:39:20 <phenny> sbp: For Sale: Absolutely Nothing | The Register
07:39:28 <jessica> sorry, but obligatory.
07:42:54 * Arnia sniggers
07:43:31 <Arnia> I have a friend working at the LHC for his PhD. He has a tendency to get drunk and find himself in a ditch in the wrong country.
07:43:55 <sbp> hehe
07:44:04 <jessica> Best way to deal with the pain of being a grad student, no?
07:44:53 <Arnia> I find the best way is to sit on swhack and be more normal than I am in real life
07:45:01 <Arnia> That and get absolutely wrecked when I can
07:45:06 * Arnia shrugs
07:46:19 * Arnia is only connected to reality via a connection on its tangent space
07:46:32 <sbp> heh, someone asked me to define arboretum
07:46:35 <Arnia> ugh, think I've been doing too much maths lately
07:46:36 <sbp> "a zoo for trees"
07:46:43 <Arnia> sbp: good description
07:47:08 <Arnia> I like zoos. I like trees. I like eating cabbage. Arboretums are good.
07:47:48 <sbp> .gc "the grass is teddy-bear fur"
07:47:49 <phenny> "the grass is teddy-bear fur": 0
07:48:19 <Arnia> Nidian?
07:48:58 <sbp> Nidian teddy-bear?
07:49:00 <sbp> .g Nidian teddy-bear
07:49:01 <phenny> sbp: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Teddy_bear
07:55:28 <Arnia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sector_General
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08:00:49 <Arnia> Hah... http://www.typography.com/ask/showBlog.php?blogID=122
08:01:00 <Arnia> "Sheidlower’s perspective is unique — and unassailable, if you’re wise, since he and his cronies have the power to immortalize naysayers as expletives themselves. (Don’t laugh: such was the fate of philistine Thomas Bowdler, miser Charles Boycott, and jingoist Nicolas Chauvin, to say nothing of famous typeface designer James W. Scumbag.)"
08:04:26 <Arnia> Ooh, this is interesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedia/desed/visual_language.shtml
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08:39:48 <xover> .weather Tromsø
08:39:51 <phenny> Clear ☼, 16℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 2m/s (4kt) (↑) - ENTC 10:20, 0820Z
08:40:38 <xover> The metereologists are promising us today will be Summer.
08:42:43 <jessica> ... that's summer?
08:42:48 <jessica> What does it take for me to get a visa there?
08:45:53 <xover> Summer is when it hits 20℃.
08:46:10 <jessica> exactly. me want.
08:46:15 <jessica> .weather Boston
08:46:17 <phenny> Clear ☼, 78.8℉ (26℃), 29.91in (1010mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KBOS 3:54, 0754Z
08:46:23 <xover> Which means so far this year, we've officially had one _hour_ of summer.
08:46:25 <jessica> today will be mild for summertime.
08:46:34 <xover> I'd buy that for a dollar!
08:47:25 <jessica> Here's the problem. There's a photo of a young matron on my passport and you'd have to sleep with crschmidt. I'm flexible on sleeping arrangements (in many senses of the word) but I have a feeling that your "job" would expect me to "head to the office" and "write memoranda".
08:47:47 <jessica> I think we could only keep this farce up 8 weeks ... no, make that months ... hmm ... you work for the government ... years.
08:48:00 <xover> heh heh
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09:31:36 * jessica smirks.
09:31:45 <jessica> To dispute claims of political bias, Curtis has stated that rather than trying to keep it in the middle, admins enjoy running both far-left and far-right articles. The top four hated ³groups² on Fark.com are (in no particular order) PETA, Catholic priests, the French, and Duke University.
09:33:13 <jessica> This is one of those times I hate being an American, or rather, being mired in the American way of life. Our newspapers and journalists generally won't take a stand if they take a stand, they're commentators, and in no way represent the interests of the paper. Whereas you can simply click on a link and find out that the Manchester Guardian is a leftist paper and will show that bias.
09:34:15 <sbp> it makes a big difference
09:36:14 <jessica> I would prefer a straightforward, yes, we think it's wrong for you to have an abortion and we're in favour of posting military men on guard at 4 hour watches at the entrance to your uterus to ensure that you don't have an abortion. Rather than dicking me around.
09:36:48 <sbp> knowledge is always dicking around
09:49:02 <xover> .weather Tromsø
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09:49:06 <phenny> Clear ☼, 18℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 3m/s (6kt) (↑) - ENTC 11:20, 0920Z
09:49:28 <xover> Come on baby, you can do it! Two more degrees!
09:54:03 <sbp> if everybody lit their farts out of the window at exactly the same moment...
09:54:28 <xover> The wind would rise and the temperature would drop.
09:55:29 <sbp> hehe
09:55:31 <xover> .weather Tromsø
09:55:33 <phenny> Clear ☼, 18℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 3m/s (6kt) (↑) - ENTC 11:20, 0920Z
10:00:15 * nslater wibbles
10:01:43 <sbp> yo
10:04:53 <nslater> hey sbp its octavia , hows life?
10:08:05 <sbp> oh, hello! cool thanks. how are you?
10:10:09 <nslater> noah told me to chat with you and apparently if i do then you'll make me laugh!
10:12:14 <sbp> yeah, definitely. I suggest torturing Noah as a first step!
10:15:04 <nslater> hehe, didnt work apparently as she's gone afk
10:15:22 <sbp> balls
10:15:27 <nslater> yeah..
10:15:30 <nslater> at least you tried
10:15:57 <nslater> she doesnt use internets very often, I think IRC confused her!
10:16:10 <sbp> yeah it's all words and shit
10:16:11 <Monty> potty mouth!
10:16:14 <sbp> nu
10:16:54 <sbp> nslater: http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uuafjzkFq
10:17:03 * nslater laughs
10:17:06 * nslater clicks
10:17:49 <nslater> sbp, she thinks "it's all words and shit" is an insult :/
10:18:11 <nslater> hahaha
10:18:15 <nslater> "ching chong wing wong"
10:18:26 <sbp> challenge her to a duel
10:18:33 <nslater> epee?
10:18:40 <sbp> whatever you're best at
10:19:22 <nslater> she's wandered off with an apathetic "no" mumbling something about how you're probably better at it than she is
10:19:42 <sbp> hehe. I meant for *you* to duel her
10:19:47 <nslater> oh right
10:19:51 <sbp> with like litre coke bottles or something
10:19:57 <nslater> no way... my sword is at the dry cleaners
10:20:10 <sbp> so much fail
10:20:18 <nslater> yeah... I wasn't preparing for duals
10:20:32 <sbp> when the French arrive, you must always be prepared for everything
10:20:33 * nslater tries to think of anything long and pointy in his house
10:20:43 <sbp> what do you think the cinque port defences were for?
10:20:48 <nslater> ... not sure I have anything, maybe a camera tripod, but I have only one, which would make for an unfair dual
10:20:49 <sbp> all the martello towers and shit
10:20:51 <nslater> also, lol
10:21:18 <nslater> im going to assume those are both french cultural references that you planted for the benifite of her reading, because I certainly dont get them :p
10:21:24 <sbp> hehe
10:21:34 <nslater> she laughed anyway, not sure what that means
10:21:46 <sbp> hehe
10:23:06 * Arnia blinks and prepares cabbage
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10:29:53 <sbp> .gc sky-badgers
10:29:54 <phenny> sky-badgers: 70
10:29:58 <sbp> aha
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10:53:57 <sbp> SSSSC
10:57:48 <xover> .weather Tromsø
10:57:49 <Monty> Normal termination
10:57:51 <phenny> Clear ☼, 18℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 3m/s (6kt) (↑) - ENTC 11:50, 0950Z
10:57:55 <xover> Grr!
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11:07:21 <xover> .title http://weather.cs.uit.no/
11:07:23 <phenny> xover: Weather Observations, University of Tromsø, Department of Computer Science
11:08:02 <xover> Fine, if it's 20+ degrees on the roof of a ~6 storey building, I figure my porch has to be within reasonable margin of Summer™.
11:12:46 <sbp> "Mac OS X is essentially a completely different operating system from Linux"
11:13:19 <sbp> I'd tell you what she wants if I... but I just don't know how! o/
11:13:28 <sbp> .weather Tromsø
11:13:31 <phenny> Clear ☼, 18℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 3m/s (6kt) (↑) - ENTC 11:50, 0950Z
11:13:46 <sbp> they really need to update these more often
11:33:37 <sbp> .weather Tromsø
11:33:40 <phenny> Clear ☼, 20℃, 1010mb, Light breeze 3m/s (6kt) (↑) - ENTC 13:20, 1120Z
11:33:43 <sbp> OH BABY
11:33:53 <sbp> SUMMER IS WITH THE TROMSOSLASHIANS!
11:34:03 <sbp> xover! it's summer!
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11:40:33 <nsh> stop having interesting conversations while i'm out drinking too much shitty beer
11:48:05 <kpreid> phenny: tell sbp The requested URL /logs/latest was not found on this server.
11:48:06 <phenny> kpreid: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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12:01:06 <sbp> bj0ern: Brit on pole at the German GP
12:01:07 <phenny> sbp: 11:48Z <kpreid> tell sbp The requested URL /logs/latest was not found on this server.
12:01:08 <bj0ern> in italy, poland, portugal and niger which remained in a, nickname
12:01:19 <sbp> Italy's not for a while yet
12:08:13 <nslater> sbp, oh man, I've found a gem w/r to the AEPL
12:08:21 <nslater> .title http://elektito.blogspot.com/2008/07/free-content-license-they-used-1800.html
12:08:22 <phenny> nslater: The Master's Thoughts: The Free Content License They Used 1800 Years Ago
12:08:27 <nslater> [[[
12:08:28 <nslater> In the name, power, and help of the Creator Ohrmazd, the Glorious, the Great, wishing health and long life for all good-doers especially those who have this (text) (re)written.
12:08:31 <nslater> ]]]
12:09:03 <nslater> if you can think of a replacement for Ohrmazd I might start using that as my general licence
12:10:15 <sbp> awesome
12:10:32 <sbp> why replace it?
12:10:41 <nslater> well, I have no idea who he is
12:10:48 <nslater> also, is maggie thatcher dead?
12:10:53 <sbp> hmm!
12:10:55 <nslater> tangent I know, but hey
12:11:08 <sbp> don't see anything on the news
12:11:19 <sbp> nope, BBC News says nothing about it
12:11:24 <nslater> hmm
12:11:29 <sbp> why did you think that?
12:11:41 <nslater> sec
12:12:23 <nslater> N + 0 2008-07-20 Facebook Ray Neal invited you to join the group "We'll only pay for a state funeral for Thatcher if she's bur...
12:12:41 <nslater> oh well
12:12:48 <sbp> ah. they're just being hypothetical
12:12:52 <nslater> right
12:13:00 <nslater> i wonder what the full name is
12:13:02 <nslater> *click*
12:13:11 <nslater> ahaha
12:13:13 <sbp> Margaret
12:13:19 <nslater> "... burried alive"
12:13:32 <sbp> aha. see, if you'd just clicked before...
12:13:39 <nslater> hehe
12:13:45 <nslater> anyway, back to that licence, so much win
12:14:05 <nslater> I would make a note of it, but loggy has done that for me'
12:14:13 <sbp> agreed. it'd be even more win if you used it in the original language
12:14:17 <sbp> script and all
12:14:19 <nslater> hmm
12:14:25 <nslater> ... a task for you perhaps!
12:14:37 <sbp> I should write my licenses in Welsh
12:14:53 <sbp> or Welsh-Akkadian
12:14:58 <nslater> nah
12:15:03 <sbp> Welsh-Akkadian-Swedish
12:15:04 <nslater> Welsh is a rubbish language
12:15:12 * nslater hides
12:15:23 <sbp> TROLE
12:15:32 <nslater> they see me trollin'...
12:15:38 <sbp> down the street
12:15:43 <sbp> some pretty mama starts breakin'
12:15:45 <sbp> down with me!
12:15:48 <sbp> stop breakin' down
12:15:52 <sbp> pleeease stop breakin' down
12:16:00 <sbp> the stuff I got'll bust yer brains out baby
12:16:06 <sbp> OOOOOOHHHHH-oooooooohhhh
12:16:11 <sbp> it'll make you lose yer mind!
12:16:30 <nslater> this is pretty funny, as things go: http://blog.reverberate.org/2008/07/17/416-random-people-with-ror-on-their-resume-reply-all-reverse-flash-mob/
12:16:50 <sbp> will look after GP. maybe
12:16:55 <nslater> oh man, the updates are pretty funny
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12:18:52 <nslater> a clueless reqruiter emailed 419 ruby develoeprs with a job offer, someone hit Reply All, someone replied saying not to use Reply All, other people replied, eventually started talking about who's going to OSCON, general disucssion - like a reverse flashmob. now they have there own google group, logo, freenode channel and twitter
12:18:58 <nslater> http://groups.google.com/group/pradiptas-rolodex
12:19:02 <nslater> nsh-: http://blog.reverberate.org/2008/07/17/416-random-people-with-ror-on-their-resume-reply-all-reverse-flash-mob/
12:19:07 <sbp> hahaha
12:19:32 <nslater> " they’re calling it Pradipta’s Rolodex, after the recruiter who emailed us all to begin with."
12:19:36 <sbp> a revmob?
12:19:43 <sbp> .gc revmob
12:19:44 <phenny> revmob: 1,210
12:19:44 <nslater> http://flickr.com/photos/tbuser/2679502308/sizes/o/ - so funny
12:19:49 <nslater> ^^ group logo
12:20:13 <nslater> internets XD
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12:39:38 * nsh- invmobs nslater
12:40:16 <nsh-> ([parts of] you are now spread out at the locations of 460 random people)
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13:13:21 <sbp> whee, more McLaren strategy idiocy
13:17:49 <verbosus> McLaren sucks, Ferrari rocks
13:18:20 <verbosus> and by the way, I’ll be back in the UK for a full year, starting in late september
13:18:57 <sbp> verbosus!
13:19:17 <sbp> wow. where are you gonna be based?
13:19:21 <verbosus> hey Sean
13:19:33 <verbosus> I’ll be in Roast Beef and Molly’s new house
13:19:39 <sbp> hehe
13:19:48 <sbp> Hamilton jussst behind Massa
13:19:50 <verbosus> I’ll be in Reading
13:21:05 <sbp> Lewis through!
13:21:34 <sbp> going after Piquet Jr. now
13:21:44 <sbp> awesome freaking race
13:25:11 <sbp> THROUGH!
13:25:12 <sbp> ehheh
13:29:03 <sbp> verbosus: I thought the lead up to the wedding was boring as shit
13:29:11 <sbp> but now that they've done it, seems to be getting good again
13:29:30 <sbp> what with Ramses being there, especially
13:29:47 <sbp> Philippe pissing himself was the highlight
13:29:59 <verbosus> I kind of liked the wait for the weeding
13:31:02 <sbp> I like the fact that the wedding was as seen through the Mexican Realism Camera
13:31:12 <sbp> glad he mouseovered that... I couldn't quite follow
13:34:16 <sbp> bj0ern: Brit about to win the German GP. what do you think of that?
13:34:18 <bj0ern> thailand
13:34:21 <sbp> mmm
13:34:50 <verbosus> I think Achewood is still strong
13:35:01 <verbosus> did you buy the Great Outdoor Fight book?
13:35:06 <sbp> yup!
13:35:11 <verbosus> ah
13:35:14 <verbosus> is it worth it?
13:35:26 <sbp> dunno yet, it hasn't been released
13:35:28 <sbp> I pre-ordered
13:35:36 <sbp> think it's coming out in September or something
13:35:38 <verbosus> hmm, I’ll have to re-consider
13:36:00 <sbp> it was always a have to get item, surely?
13:36:08 <verbosus> niet
13:36:08 <sbp> best arc by milllles
13:36:14 <sbp> whynietpls
13:36:15 <verbosus> yeah, I have the t-shirt
13:36:24 <sbp> hehe
13:36:32 <verbosus> dunno, I don’t see the point in having it in print
13:36:38 <verbosus> from what I read, it didn’t have much more material
13:37:07 <verbosus> am I boy oh boy wrong?
13:37:45 <sbp> ah, hmm. I don't know how much new material it has
13:37:51 <sbp> though I thought I heard it was quite a lot
13:38:00 <sbp> I'll let you know, when I get it!
13:39:27 <verbosus> cool
13:45:05 <verbosus> I reckon I’ll “just” go to bed and be back in about six months or so
13:45:08 <verbosus> kthxbai!
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13:47:06 <sbp> heh
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15:16:02 * nslater does the all-my-functional-tests-pass dance
15:16:12 <sbp> well done. now you gotta write more tests!
15:16:16 <nslater> yes, bingo
15:16:20 <sbp> hehe
15:16:23 * nslater grins
15:16:30 <nslater> what you up to this sunny sunday then sbp?
15:16:36 <sbp> watching the Open at the moment
15:16:41 <nslater> the what now?
15:16:47 <sbp> the Open
15:16:54 <sbp> .wik The Open (golf)
15:16:54 <nslater> still no idea what that is
15:16:56 <nslater> oooh
15:16:57 <phenny> "The United States Open Championship, commonly known as the U.S. Open, is the annual open golf tournament of the United States." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Open_(golf)
15:17:03 <sbp> ugh, not the fucking US open
15:17:06 <nslater> okay, sports, *yaaawn*
15:17:11 <sbp> .wik The Open (golf) -US
15:17:13 <phenny> "Coimbatore is known for its textile factories, engineering firms, automobile parts manufacturers, health care facilities, educational institutions, pleasant weather, hospitality and for its Kongu Tamil." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coimbatore
15:17:16 <nslater> ha
15:17:18 <sbp> oh, so much fail
15:17:22 <sbp> .wik The Open (golf) UK
15:17:24 <phenny> "NES Open Tournament Golf is a sports game developed and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo Entertainment System in 1991." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NES_Open_Tournament_Golf
15:17:29 <sbp> BAD
15:17:39 <sbp> it's the premier golf tournament!
15:17:44 <sbp> it's like Wimbledon in tennis
15:17:51 <nslater> you only have your self to blame, you should have implemented a web search more powerful than google in your phenny module
15:17:56 <nslater> yeah, I know what the open is kthx
15:18:01 <sbp> .wik The Open
15:18:02 <phenny> "The Open Championship, or simply The Open (frequently referred to as the British Open outside the UK), is the oldest of the four major championships in men's golf." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open
15:18:08 <sbp> yay, there we go
15:18:26 <nslater> so... (me flys by seat of pants) is it a good "match", &c? ;)
15:18:38 <sbp> who? what?
15:19:00 <nslater> lol, no idea... just making polite conversation, is it a good "one"?
15:19:06 <sbp> oh, I see what you're trying to say
15:19:09 <sbp> yeah, it's pretty good
15:19:13 <nslater> heh, k
15:19:21 <sbp> someone who won it aaaaages and ages ago and is now in his fifties is in the lead
15:19:26 <sbp> so everybody's like "woah. cool"
15:19:28 <nslater> sweet
15:23:14 <nslater> swizzle chairs with wheels are such a good invention, ive been fixing my self food, drinks, &c all afternoon and I'm sure I've not left my seat once
15:23:21 <sbp> ehheh
15:23:39 <sbp> if you had a CO2 fire extinguisher you could propel yourself
15:24:21 <nslater> oh man, that would be so cool - except my flat is small enough that I can *almost* just swizzle to get to my kitchen without having to move
15:24:27 <nslater> reminds me of a kat williams sketch
15:24:29 <sbp> hehe
15:24:39 <sbp> you're a kat williams sketch
15:24:41 <sbp> .wik kat williams
15:24:42 <phenny> "Micah S. Katt Williams[1]| (born September 3, 1973[2]|) is an American comedian, rapper, and actor." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kat_williams
15:24:46 <nslater> if you weren't already watching something I would bother finding it for you on youtube
15:25:55 <sbp> I wonder if bj0ern is any good at filtering videos for me?
15:25:57 <bj0ern> and pcap would probably use von ...
15:26:02 <nslater> hmm
15:26:44 <nslater> while my tests are running, I'll see if I can find it
15:27:35 <sbp> I hate it when tests take ages to run
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15:27:45 <nslater> mine take about 10 minutes atm
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15:28:15 <sbp> network tests always bastard it up
15:28:29 <nslater> well, mine dont use the network... they are just lengthy
15:28:31 <sbp> and stress tests
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15:38:24 <nslater> oh well cant find it
15:38:30 <sbp> thanks for trying
15:38:35 <nslater> heh, np
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15:58:18 <xover> .weather Tromsø
15:58:21 <phenny> Scattered, 21℃, 1009mb, Light breeze 2m/s (4kt) (↑) - ENTC 17:50, 1550Z
15:58:26 <xover> Good, good.
16:02:24 <sbp> hmm, Poulter tied for lead
16:03:34 <MoiraA> hello sbp
16:03:40 <sbp> hey MoiraA
16:03:56 <MoiraA> we seem to have permanently acquired spb here :)
16:04:11 <sbp> yeah, he must be mad
16:04:27 <MoiraA> with me here yes
16:04:28 <nslater> ooh, spb is talking?
16:04:30 <nslater> loggy: pointer
16:04:30 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2008-07-20#T16-04-30
16:04:32 <sbp> nope
16:04:36 <nslater> oh
16:05:21 <spb> nslater fails
16:05:23 <spb> as usual
16:05:38 <MoiraA> spb doesn't have a voice
16:05:41 <MoiraA> oh
16:05:54 <MoiraA> maybe I wasn't quite right there
16:10:30 <sbp> .gc "snuck in the bunker"
16:10:31 <phenny> "snuck in the bunker": 0
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16:10:56 <sbp> a Peter Alliss original
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16:19:20 <danja> Morbus, you around?
16:19:46 <sbp> seen Morbus
16:19:47 <Monty> Morbus (n=morbus) was last seen by #tumbolia coming from c-24-34-49-171.hsd1.ma.comcast.net on Sat Jul 19 21:50:32 BST 2008 when joining the channel.
16:19:52 <sbp> I think he's doing his weekend disappearing act
16:20:12 <sbp> .seen Morbus
16:20:13 <phenny> sbp: I last saw morbus at 2008-07-19 00:55:16 UTC on #tumbolia
16:20:17 <nslater> hehe
16:20:20 <danja> aha
16:20:44 <sbp> he does some werewolf stuff on weekends
16:21:00 <danja> phenny, tell Morbus http://n2.talis.com/wiki/DanjaTemp he-elp!
16:21:00 <phenny> danja: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
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16:24:45 <nslater> danja: have you tried putting the more specific proxypass directives before the general one
16:24:59 <danja> hmmm....
16:25:07 <nslater> danja: the documentation seems to imply that the first one that matches (in this case "/") is done imediately
16:25:49 <danja> aah
16:26:08 <nslater> and if that doesnt work, you could try using an exclusion rule (appending "!") and then doing mod_rewrite after the proxypass stuff
16:27:14 <nslater> it also seems that you could do the whole business with the [P] flag to a bunch of mod_rewrite rules
16:29:41 <sbp> RewriteRule <nslater> <luls> [P]
16:29:53 <sbp> yo RobotGuy
16:29:56 <nslater> : : : ( ( (
16:30:03 <RobotGuy> sbp: Greetings!
16:30:21 <RobotGuy> sbp: I will have some very cool things to show soon. :)
16:30:26 <sbp> excellent
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16:31:28 <RobotGuy> sbp: I have a Phenny bot on my robot.
16:31:47 <sbp> heh, really? can you operate the robot via irc?
16:31:59 <danja> cheers nslater - I'm now getting a 404, which seems like progress!
16:31:59 <kpreid> IRC Robot Control
16:32:06 <sbp> kpreid: heh
16:32:11 <nslater> danja: oh great, no probs
16:32:21 <RobotGuy> sbp: That is my goal with modules I am going to add to Phenny, and contribute back to your development if you are interested.
16:32:25 <nslater> danja: got my infos from http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html#proxypass btw
16:32:28 <sbp> awesome, yes please
16:32:33 <danja> ta
16:32:43 <RobotGuy> W.A.L.T.E.R. will be a true IRC robot. :)
16:32:51 <nslater> > BOOT UP
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16:32:55 <sbp> W.I.R.C.E.R.
16:32:56 <nslater> > KILL ALL HUMANS
16:33:00 <nslater> > ERASE ALL LOGS
16:33:09 <nslater> > PERFORM FELATIO
16:33:14 <nslater> erm
16:33:15 <sbp> on whom?
16:33:21 <danja> Monty?
16:33:22 <Monty> awww
16:33:30 <sbp> Monty doesn't want fellatio today
16:33:34 <nslater> > PERFORM FELATIO ON CLOSEST PERSON
16:33:35 <Monty> lost sweet barley masturbates electronic Saddam and nasal magical dirty mags ;)
16:33:46 <danja> think he does
16:33:49 <sbp> hehe
16:34:11 <danja> .g nasal magical dirty mags
16:34:12 <phenny> danja: http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/patrick-wolf
16:34:18 <sbp> makes sense
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16:37:59 <RobotGuy> Wheeled Interactive Relay Chatting Extreme Rover
16:38:11 <nslater> "Extreem" :)
16:38:11 <sbp> choxelles
16:38:23 <sbp> X-TR... oh wait, that won't work here
16:39:23 <RobotGuy> sbp: I will have my _WALTER_ irc bot actually running on the new "brain" for W.A.L.T.E.R. towards the end of this week.
16:39:46 <sbp> does it have a webcam?
16:39:52 <sbp> it'd be fun if we could see it being operated
16:42:06 <RobotGuy> sbp: It won't be mobile for a bit. I still have some work to do on the hardware (parts arriving this week). Yes, W.A.L.T.E.R. will eventually have *two* cameras, one mounted on each side with a 180 degree (full forward to full backward) view.
16:42:17 <zachb> Nice
16:42:34 <RobotGuy> I have already designed the side mount pan/tilts for the cameras and lasers.
16:43:54 <RobotGuy> It will all be run with Gentoo Embedded Linux.
16:44:27 <nslater> omg laserz?
16:44:46 <RobotGuy> nslater: Yes, indeed. :)
16:44:52 <nslater> what for?
16:45:11 <RobotGuy> nslater: Range finding and environment mapping.
16:45:18 <nslater> cool
16:45:51 <RobotGuy> I am still debating whether to go with a top center deck mounted camera also.
16:46:37 <RobotGuy> I want W.A.L.T.E.R. to be the robot with the friggin' laser beam on its head. :)
16:51:16 <RobotGuy> nslater: Also vision. :)
16:51:43 <nslater> sweet
16:52:23 <RobotGuy> W.A.L.T.E.R. is my development platform.
16:52:57 <RobotGuy> I've created #WALTER, which I hope will become more active as I get more things working on W.A.L.T.E.R.
16:53:36 <RobotGuy> I've had _WALTER_ (a Phenny bot) running there for awhile and on other channels.
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16:56:52 <RobotGuy> I will be attending OSCON this week, and will have W.A.L.T.E.R. there, but not operational, at least not until the end of the week or maybe later.
16:57:34 <sbp> shame you couldn't get it done in time
17:00:42 <RobotGuy> spb: Yes, I know.
17:01:35 <RobotGuy> spb: I will be able to show some progress during the week though. I am hoping OSCON has free WiFi. If so, I may be able to have W.A.L.T.E.R. online (but without camera) from there.
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17:02:40 <RobotGuy> I also have DJango (Python web framework) and lighttpd (web server) on W.A.L.T.E.R.
17:02:52 <RobotGuy> Everything is Python based.
17:03:02 <sbp> good :-)
17:03:11 <RobotGuy> That should allow me to do some very interesting things. :D
17:05:13 <RobotGuy> I need to create a source control project for W.A.L.T.E.R. I already have an account on SourceForge.
17:06:05 <RobotGuy> I'm off to get some groceries. BIAB.
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17:11:40 <shoulson_> sbp: so you ever read the story of Lludd and Llefelys?
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17:12:08 <sbp> nope!
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17:13:02 <sbp> wow, looks like Harrington's won
17:13:11 <clsn> I find it quite... troubling, myself. One of the three "plagues" is basically "let's feed xenophobia" Here, lemme find a translation for you.
17:13:11 <phenny> clsn: 19 Jul 08:13Z <sbp> tell clsn actually written language is basically *one* dimensional when you think about it, but interestingly some sign language transcription methods are two dimensional! Arnia and I thought about making a two dimensional language once
17:13:11 <sbp> got an eagle chance on the 17th and he's already two ahead
17:13:15 <phenny> clsn: 19 Jul 08:14Z <sbp> tell clsn (or, if phonemes/pitch do give it a second dimension, then perhaps the sign language transcription methods are three dimensional because they encode three dimensional movements? hmm. like the way that you can draw a cube in 2d?)
17:13:18 <clsn> It's short.
17:13:33 <sbp> watching The Open at the moment
17:14:11 <clsn> OK.
17:15:00 <clsn> Dude, you can comment on my blog too... I have comments enabled. :) Yeah, there's room to bicker over the exact dimensionality.
17:15:36 <clsn> http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/lludd.html
17:18:33 <d8uv> ...
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17:30:25 <sbp> wow, Harrington's second shot at the 18th was almost as good as the second on the 17th
17:30:51 <sbp> heh, I remember commentating on Harrington's victory last year
17:36:09 <sbp> alright, can he make the birdie putt...
17:36:54 <sbp> very difficult length
17:37:01 <sbp> 9ft?
17:37:05 <sbp> just missed
17:37:10 <sbp> good win
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17:45:28 <sbp> clsn: the Coranians may have been an evil people
17:45:38 <sbp> a race of spammers
17:45:48 <clsn> Well, yeah, but listen to what their crime was:
17:46:03 <clsn> They had great wisdom, and they heard everything that was said. So it was hard to plot against them.
17:46:03 <sbp> yeah, good with words. clearly an allusion to markov chaining
17:46:16 <clsn> Yep. Definitely a capital crime.
17:46:36 <sbp> possibly they came and raped and pillaged
17:46:46 <clsn> If so, nobody complained about it.
17:46:52 <clsn> Just that they were hard to plot against.
17:46:54 <sbp> well it was probably assumed
17:47:02 <sbp> can you remember any peaceful invasion from that period of history?
17:47:20 <clsn> And it was okay to kill them but fooling them into thinking they were getting together for a peace conference.
17:47:20 <Monty> <-- the hang on yahoo offer to depressing article: http://home.pacbell.net/bettychu/2005allbreedbisris/
17:47:47 <clsn> Because they obviously weren't even human, since they were susceptible to insect poisoning while the upright Britons weren't.
17:48:30 <sbp> maybe it was a genetic resistance
17:49:12 <clsn> Just sounds like a great excuse (or encouragement) for some serious racism, to me.
17:49:40 <sbp> nah. these people could've been half faëry and half human perhaps
17:49:44 <sbp> I mean, it was legendary time
17:50:01 <sbp> they had a haunted horn which they washed out with wine
17:50:07 <sbp> but you're not reading anything into that... :-)
17:50:15 <clsn> Nope, nothing. :)
17:50:31 <clsn> They are definitely described as *people*, not faery.
17:50:51 <sbp> Methuselah is described as a person too
17:51:13 <sbp> I mean faëry in the Tolkienian essay-sense
17:51:25 <clsn> Yeah, and nobody decided it was okay to poison him to death...
17:51:54 <sbp> I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to find a smiting in there somewhere... :-)
17:52:06 <clsn> With a little effort...
17:52:31 <clsn> Just seems like the kind of story you could get into trouble reading to your kindergarten class these days.
17:52:41 <sbp> "And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God."
17:53:09 <sbp> something I was reading yesterday pointed out that that used "in stead" originally
17:53:11 <clsn> "So these Coroniaid are just like the Jews/Tinkers/pick-your-ethnicity...?"
17:53:13 <sbp> which makes a lot more sense
17:53:39 <sbp> well, with some of the properties of goblins or trolls
17:53:43 <sbp> but described as human
17:54:03 <d8uv> Ok so I typed my root password on the wrong keyboard. This one.
17:54:15 <clsn> No such properties specified... So no reason for the kids to read that in...
17:54:18 <sbp> what is it?
17:54:31 <sbp> oh, kids shouldn't read mythology
17:54:35 <sbp> far too important!
17:54:39 <jsled> ...
17:55:08 <clsn> "And Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet"?
17:55:16 <sbp> also they'll just start cleaning out their fathers' horns with wine
17:55:23 <sbp> and their fathers'll be all "nooOooo, not my horn!"
17:55:37 <sbp> which would be madbags
17:55:47 <clsn> Or possibly "nooOOoo, not my wine!"
17:55:53 <zachb> d8uv: I've done that with my own password, before
17:55:54 <sbp> hehe, yeah
17:55:59 <zachb> Hehe
17:56:16 <sbp> my password is 1o1wtf
17:56:18 <clsn> And children shall not know where lieth the things of their fathers, which their fathers put there only last night around eight o'clock...
17:56:19 <sbp> HACK ME IF YOU CAN
17:56:40 * jessica has set out a very strange challenge and she doesn't know why.
17:56:55 <clsn> pix plz
17:57:20 <sbp> urapixplz
17:57:20 <d8uv> It's a good thing mibbit is a pile of shit that doesn't work
17:57:28 <d8uv> Otherwise I'd be in trouble!
17:57:29 <sbp> d8uv: yeah
17:57:32 <zachb> d8uv: heh
17:57:53 <zachb> I do it a lot when I think I locked my screen, so as the monitor turns on I type in my password, only to have it be unlocked
17:58:16 <sbp> Harrington raises the cup, again
17:58:29 <zachb> Wait, why don't you just change your root password?
17:59:03 <sbp> "I'm thrilled to have done it" - trailled, it sounded like
17:59:06 <sbp> accents for win
17:59:12 <sbp> .gc "for win purposes"
17:59:13 <phenny> "for win purposes": 83
17:59:36 <clsn> .gc "for the ƿynne"
17:59:36 <phenny> "for the ƿynne": 0
18:00:01 <d8uv> so sbp, you should totally make a google module for phenny
18:00:23 <d8uv> so people could search google from irc
18:00:28 <sbp> I did!
18:00:37 <sbp> it's totals radcool
18:00:39 <d8uv> that would be so damn convienient.
18:00:55 <sbp> what I really should do is post to ye blog
18:01:02 <zachb> d8uv: are you really serious?
18:01:06 <zachb> .g d8uv
18:01:06 <phenny> zachb: http://d8uv.org/
18:01:08 <sbp> I suck at 'omedies recently though
18:01:11 <sbp> give me a comedy hint
18:01:22 <sbp> what is comic? what should I write about?
18:01:27 <d8uv> i mean, the command could be: "phenny: please search google for the phrase 'lol'"
18:02:26 <sbp> "go on Paddy, you're a scouser now!"
18:02:31 <zachb> .g lol
18:02:32 <phenny> zachb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL
18:02:34 <d8uv> sbp: mice through the ages
18:02:40 <d8uv> OMG ZACHB
18:02:44 <sbp> d8uv: 'k. good topic
18:02:45 <d8uv> YOU WERE FAST
18:02:48 <d8uv> LIKE
18:02:53 <sbp> ZOOOOOOOOOOM
18:03:00 <d8uv> HOW FAST DID YOU WRITE THAT INTO PHENNY
18:03:07 <sbp> ZOOMSPEEDS
18:03:08 <jsled> |---><---| this fast!
18:03:11 <zachb> ...
18:03:15 <d8uv> LIKE 3 MINUTES? YOU MUST BE A GENIUS
18:03:17 <sbp> rock
18:03:20 <zachb> ...stop making fun of me D:
18:03:26 <sbp> stone
18:03:27 <Monty> I chose paper - I win! :o)
18:03:35 <sbp> you fuck Monty. YOU FUCK
18:03:36 <Monty> screw you
18:03:38 <sbp> NU
18:03:53 <sbp> the thing is, he could so easily cheat
18:04:24 <zachb> Heh
18:04:26 <zachb> paper
18:04:26 <Monty> I chose stone - You win :(
18:04:32 <sbp> scissors
18:04:32 <Monty> I chose scissors - Draw!
18:04:35 <zachb> Yet he chooses not to. What a moron
18:04:46 <sbp> could be a bug
18:05:00 <d8uv> fireball
18:05:42 <zachb> Its not a bug, it's a feature!
18:06:03 <sbp> you're a feature
18:06:10 <zachb> Yay!
18:06:21 <clsn> FAIL catalog: http://www.herdthinners.com/index.phtml?current=20080720
18:06:25 <sbp> .title
18:06:26 <d8uv> zachb is a feature like UAC
18:06:28 <phenny> sbp: Herd Thinners Incorporated
18:06:47 <zachb> d8uv: that's not nice D:
18:06:50 *** dpawson has quit (Remote closed the connection)
18:07:07 <nsh-> o hai gais, whursap?!?
18:07:11 <d8uv> What
18:07:14 *** nsh- is now known as nsh
18:07:19 <d8uv> That's a compliment!
18:07:25 <sbp> "knock please" "okay. *knock* *knock*" "go away! I'm having sex!"
18:07:46 <zachb> No it isn't
18:07:53 <d8uv> I mean everyone hates UAC at first then they turn it off, then it's all groovy!
18:07:57 <nsh> you're isn't
18:08:00 <zachb> ...
18:08:10 <sbp> yeah, when you turn UAC the fuck off it's wonderful
18:08:19 <sbp> one of the primary causes of joy in UAC users
18:08:20 * zachb can't be turned off
18:08:48 * sbp looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control not previously aware of this
18:08:52 <d8uv> See? You can cause joy in the hearts and minds of everyone!
18:09:04 <sbp> NSH
18:09:13 <sbp> or, ***nsh**
18:09:14 <zachb> Wait, what else are we UAC'ing about?
18:09:18 <nsh> O YAH!?
18:09:22 <sbp> ...*
18:09:27 <nsh> ###43###
18:09:36 <d8uv> (actually, i like UAC, especially in SP1.)
18:09:45 <zachb> I never had the displeasure of using it
18:10:08 <sbp> now all we
