2009-03-31 Swhack IRC Log

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00:48:45 <clsn> .gcs sundanese sudanese
00:48:46 <phenny> sudanese (1,180,000), sundanese (605,000)
00:48:53 <clsn> .u sundanese
00:48:54 <phenny> clsn: Sorry, no results for 'sundanese'.
00:49:06 <clsn> .u 1b96
00:49:06 <phenny> U+1B96 (No name found)
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02:47:43 <aspect> .u Ђ
02:47:43 <phenny> U+0402 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DJE (Ђ)
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03:19:35 <Monty> But what does Navi have to do with the price of fish?
03:22:08 <jsled> .gc polyglamorous
03:22:09 <phenny> polyglamorous: 66
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04:04:56 <Naicamine> hello
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07:07:21 <Monty> Thank goodness, clsn is back!
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08:44:17 <Monty> hi Talliesin, how ya doing?
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09:54:02 <sbp> yo
09:54:49 *** sbp changed the topic to: "<deltab> in a song that uses the word 'squibnocket'"
09:55:05 <_ulises> yo sbp
09:56:35 <skwerl> omg when did you get here?
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09:57:05 <_ulises> I'm everywhere
09:58:40 <sbp> yizzo _ulises
09:58:55 <_ulises> frizzle dizzle
09:59:10 <skwerl> hai sbp
09:59:15 <skwerl> good morninginglings
09:59:27 <sbp> hai2u2 skwerl
10:00:15 <sbp> .gc captaintess
10:00:16 <phenny> captaintess: 117
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10:21:24 <Monty> howdy, _ulises
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10:26:48 <Monty> bah, it's _ulises again
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11:10:27 <sbp> [[[
11:10:32 <sbp> Mr Sarkozy, a man often ridiculed in France for preferring fitness to literature, has frequently expressed his disdain for "La Princesse de Cleves" (The Princess of Cleves), a novel by Madame de La Fayette which was published in 1678 and is taught in most French classrooms.
11:10:33 <sbp> Now, French readers have adopted the book as a symbol of dissent: as Mr Sarkozy's popularity falls, sales of the book are rising.
11:10:38 <sbp> ]]] — http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/5013742/French-protest-by-reading-Nicolas-Sarkozys-least-favourite-book.html
11:10:41 <[bjoern]> nu
11:12:29 <[bjoern]> chx out http://pfalzstorch.blogspot.com/
11:13:22 <sbp> Telegraph grammar fail: "Now, after a public appeal for information, it has been discovered that it was the one of the zoo's first female keeper's who had nobly taken care of Sheila." (keepers)
11:13:40 <sbp> hehe, dancin'
11:13:42 <sbp> ooh, ring numbers
11:13:46 <sbp> what's the lofo?
11:13:52 <[bjoern]> Deppenapostroph
11:14:12 <[bjoern]> what sa lofo
11:14:27 <sbp> "The ring number in females: it is happening to A44."
11:14:44 <sbp> "Distinguishing characteristics in males: the now healing injury below the right eye (quite strong dark line) and a ring number that begins with A42 ..."
11:14:45 <[bjoern]> it starts with ...
11:14:51 <sbp> so are these numbers the same as last year?
11:14:55 <sbp> and is the eye healing?
11:15:02 <[bjoern]> eye aye
11:15:07 <[bjoern]> same, dunno#
11:15:17 <sbp> this is funny: "Hopefully the spring their spirits soon embracing the pulsation brings ... ;-)"
11:15:27 <sbp> Embrace the Pulsation Brings
11:15:56 <sbp> .title http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5061004/Woman-who-plays-classical-music-to-soothe-horses-told-to-get-licence.html
11:15:56 <phenny> sbp: Woman who plays classical music to soothe horses told to get licence - Telegraph
11:16:29 <[bjoern]> for the musc she playes?
11:16:50 <sbp> well, she uses an instrument called a radio to do it
11:16:52 <[bjoern]> oh she does not actually play it
11:17:05 <sbp> yes she does, she is skilled in the art of the radio
11:17:31 <[bjoern]> page links to "The best cave hotels - Subterranean accommodation from around the world."
11:17:57 <sbp> ooh
11:18:48 <[bjoern]> "Invest without the risk - Build a winning fantasy fund portfolio and you could be £25,000 better off."
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11:23:40 <sbp> £25,000 of fantasy money, I suppose?
11:24:53 <[bjoern]> both occured to me a bit The Onion-esque, but I suppose the latter is a investment game. you play it with virtual credits, win, get real money.
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11:26:52 <cre8radix> re
11:26:52 <phenny> cre8radix: 30 Mar 20:07Z <[bjoern]> tell cre8radix great pix on http://www.abendblatt.de/daten/2005/03/14/409795.html
11:28:00 <[bjoern]> p http://pfalzstorch.de/bilder/live1.html just now
11:28:23 <[bjoern]> also features lone cyclist
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12:13:39 <[bjoern]> we again ftw http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/09/03/30/2331250.shtml
12:13:40 <[bjoern]> .title
12:13:41 <phenny> [bjoern]: Slashdot | Huge German Donation Marks Wikipedia's Evolution
12:20:41 <[bjoern]> askmrt tag for http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/09/03/30/2016220.shtml
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12:20:51 <sbp> [bjoern]: aw, I missed the cyclist
12:20:56 <sbp> did you not take a copy?
12:20:59 <_ulises> .title
12:20:59 <phenny> _ulises: Slashdot | How Do I Make My Netbook More Manly?
12:21:02 <[bjoern]> of course I made a copy
12:21:11 <_ulises> heh, read that, some comments are actually funny
12:21:11 <sbp> sweet. givpls
12:22:03 <[bjoern]> http://imagebin.ca/img/SvMmRI.jpg
12:22:10 <sbp> “Encarta has been a popular product around the world for many years. However, the category of traditional encyclopedias and reference material has changed. People today seek and consume information in considerably different ways than in years past.” — Microsoft, on why they're discontinuing Encarta
12:27:52 <procto> I used to consume information through my face holes
12:28:27 <procto> now I have a native of the andes gently tap it out in morse code unto my left scapula
12:28:54 <procto> it's a much more luxurious experience, I think trump would say
12:29:10 <procto> very exclusive
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12:50:24 <Morbus>   'campaign' => array(
12:50:25 <Morbus>    'name'     => t('Campaign'),
12:50:25 <Morbus>    'description'  => t('Define a campaign and create calls to action to support it.'),
12:50:25 <Morbus>    'module'    => 'activism_campaign',
12:50:25 <Morbus>    'title_label'  => t('Campaign title'),
12:50:25 <Morbus>    'body_label'  => t('Campaign message'),
12:50:27 <Morbus>   ),
12:50:31 <Morbus> whoops.
12:50:33 <Morbus> sorry. nothing to see here ;)
12:51:00 <sbp> t('k')
12:51:32 <[bjoern]> PHPwnd.
12:57:19 <Morbus> sbp: t() == drupal translation layer ;)
13:14:13 <[bjoern]> .wik Reciprocal
13:14:14 <phenny> "Multiplicative inverse, in mathematics, the number 1/x, which multiplied by x gives the product 1, also known as a reciprocal" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal
13:14:51 <[bjoern]> .leo Kehrwert
13:14:52 <phenny> der Kehrwert = reciprocal (math.), multiplicative inverse (math.), reciprocal value (math.)
13:14:53 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Kehrwert
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14:25:35 <MoiraA> afternoon all
14:26:05 <_ulises> afternoon MoiraA
14:26:59 <MoiraA> :) beautiful day here, sunny and fairly warm
14:27:19 <_ulises> lucky you
14:27:44 <MoiraA> not nice where you are?
14:27:52 <_ulises> not nice enough
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15:56:35 <[bjoern]> http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/220760
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15:56:37 <Monty> hey nsh
15:56:41 <nsh> yo monty
15:56:41 <Monty> What does that suggest to you ?
15:56:50 <nsh> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/typepad/dcowan38/the_squid_zone/~3/MsycT711wDg/interested-in-etymology.html
15:57:11 <nsh> VARY IMPORTNZ P2B READINGS KTHXK
15:57:44 <[bjoern]> crappyurl
15:58:16 <nsh> mm
15:58:30 <nsh> http://www.squidzone.ca/the_squid_zone/2009/03/interested-in-etymology.html
15:58:32 <nsh> silly google
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16:00:13 <[bjoern]> this hilarious http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/30/cctv-london-government-transport-g20
16:01:07 <sbp> oh chox
16:01:48 <[bjoern]> in many ways in fact
16:01:53 <[bjoern]> remind me in 20 minutes to !
16:01:53 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Tue Mar 31 17:21:47 BST 2009
16:03:37 <nsh> wait
16:03:45 <nsh> so
16:04:25 <sbp> crimcams
16:04:53 <nsh> this story has an interesting fragrance
16:04:56 <[bjoern]> they record only crimson
16:05:30 <[bjoern]> giimgle crimson interesting pix
16:05:36 <nsh> anyway
16:05:43 <nsh> sbp, did you look at hotrussianetym girl yet?
16:05:52 <nsh> swhack should probably concoct her some questions n ting
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16:06:20 <[bjoern]> for cake, for pix, for "services"?
16:07:09 <[bjoern]> shakespeare portraits should look more like http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/1-crimson-ride-barbara-jensen.jpg
16:09:18 <sbp> nsh: um, nope? whereis, pls?
16:09:36 <[bjoern]> .g hotrussianetym girl
16:09:37 <phenny> [bjoern]: No results found for 'hotrussianetym girl'.
16:09:44 <nslater> .g w3c girl
16:09:45 <phenny> nslater: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/w3cg/_exterior.html
16:09:49 <sbp> [bjoern]: *everything* should look more like that
16:09:58 <sbp> nsh: oic it
16:10:00 <sbp> reading!
16:10:20 <[bjoern]> .gc "sexual etymology "
16:10:21 <phenny> "sexual etymology ": 18
16:11:10 <sbp> nsh: *all* videos should be like that video
16:11:35 <nsh> indeed
16:12:22 <nsh> .gs cry * and let slip
16:12:24 <phenny> cry * and let slip: havoc (100), havok (7), havoc - (6), ‘havoc!’ (5), 'havoc' (5)
16:12:37 <nsh> .gc "cry hammock and let slip"
16:12:38 <phenny> "cry hammock and let slip": 10
16:12:41 <nsh> meh
16:12:43 <[bjoern]> .gc hack a wookie
16:12:44 <phenny> hack a wookie: 8,960
16:12:51 <nsh> .gs let slip the * of war
16:12:52 <phenny> let slip the * of war: dogs (131), rimshots (4), blogs (3), tricks (2), madraí (2)
16:13:23 <[bjoern]> .gcs "blog of war" "twitter of war" "blog war" "twitter war" "youtube war" "4chan war"
16:13:27 <phenny> "blog war" (30,400), "twitter war" (10,100), "youtube war" (8,470), "blog of war" (6,950), "4chan war" (82), "twitter of war" (0)
16:14:51 <nsh> [[[ One story claimed protesters would use "discarded lumps of concrete, bricks and wooden stakes". Another said an anarchist cell was arriving in a tank. ]]] -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/28/g20-protests-london
16:15:46 <sbp> oh man, that would be great
16:15:52 <nsh> .wik Massacre of Glencoe
16:15:52 <phenny> "The Massacre of Glencoe occurred in Glen Coe, Scotland, in the early morning of 13 February, 1692, during the era of the 'Glorious Revolution' and Jacobitism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe
16:15:52 <sbp> imagine if they were like sipping cocktails and stuff
16:15:59 <nsh> woah, totalz
16:16:05 <sbp> wearing top hats, sipping cocktails, girls with big Ascot hats
16:16:08 <sbp> coming in in a tank
16:16:35 <[bjoern]> remind me in 20 minutes to !!!
16:16:35 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Tue Mar 31 17:36:30 BST 2009
16:16:35 <nsh> POLICE HAVE SIEZED A STOCKPILE OF ASCOT HATS FROM SUSPECTED EXTREMIST COCKTAIL SIPPERS
16:16:41 <sbp> chox
16:17:49 <sbp> reminds me of that story where some upper class function, some beach soiree sort of thing, got broken up by the police because since they had more than 20 people attending and loud (classical) music was playing, they were legally classing it as a rave. dunno if that's apocryphal or not...
16:17:55 <nsh> .wik Wombles Cell
16:17:57 <phenny> "The Infinite Quest is an animated serial based on the British science fiction television series Doctor Who." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Quest
16:18:03 <nsh> .wik Wombles anarchists
16:18:05 <phenny> "The WOMBLES (White Overalls Movement Building Libertarian Effective Struggles) are a loose anti-capitalist group based in London that once dressed in white overalls with padding and helmets at protests, mimicking the Italian group Tute Bianche." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOMBLES
16:18:26 <nsh> lol, sounds like fun
16:18:56 <[bjoern]> .title http://tafkac.org/language/etymology/hamburger_hot_dog_names.html
16:18:57 <phenny> [bjoern]: Language/Etymology/hamburger hot dog names
16:19:40 <[bjoern]> (#2 for hot russian etymology girl; #1 is Hot Sexy Arbic Girls 2 - Video)
16:20:12 <nsh> might go to london tomorrow then
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16:22:16 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
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16:24:30 <[bjoern]> .wik Carmax
16:24:31 <phenny> "CarMax is the United States' largest used-car retailer and a Fortune 500 company." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmax
16:26:56 <[bjoern]> "We need to borrow your squirrels"
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16:30:42 <cre8radix> .leo qualle
16:30:43 <phenny> jellyfish (zool.) = die Qualle
16:30:44 <phenny> puddle (sport.) = die Qualle (Rudern)
16:30:45 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=qualle
16:36:46 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !!!
16:37:11 <[bjoern]> Soon there shall be mad laughter
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17:25:38 <[bjoern]> .gc "what would jesus drink"
17:25:39 <phenny> "what would jesus drink": 759
17:26:35 <nsh> .gs what would jesus *
17:26:36 <phenny> what would jesus *: buy (25), do (11), deconstruct (9), brew (7), fly (6), drive (6)
17:27:35 <[bjoern]> I hear there is a plant that can turn water into wine.
17:29:01 <nsh> ++
17:30:42 <sbp> you need feet too
17:31:37 <sbp> I wonder if anybody's ever found a toenail in their wine?
17:31:39 <sbp> that'd be kinda funny
17:33:17 <[bjoern]> .wik The Bird and the Bee
17:33:17 <phenny> "The Bird and the Bee is an indie/pop/alternative musical duo from Los Angeles, consisting of musicians Greg Kurstin ('bee') and Inara George ('bird')." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bird_and_the_Bee
17:34:52 <[bjoern]> "Ray Guns Are Not Just the Future"
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17:51:10 <[bjoern]> P P P P P OMG P!!!
17:51:28 <[bjoern]> SBP ATTENTION ATTENTION
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17:58:49 <sbp> [bjoern]: yo
17:58:59 <[bjoern]> just testing
17:59:10 <sbp> TEST FAILED
17:59:15 <[bjoern]> also, storks
17:59:17 <sbp> ...
17:59:18 <sbp> egg!
17:59:21 <sbp> whoo!
17:59:37 <sbp> oddly enough, I loaded Ctrl+S instinctively when you said attention
17:59:42 <[bjoern]> There, disappointment and happiness in under a minute.
17:59:43 <sbp> (my stork shortcut)
17:59:47 <sbp> yeah! thanks!
18:00:11 <sbp> oh, and you didn't upload the picture from earlier yet
18:00:29 <sbp> I note she's got all moss around this egg
18:00:36 <sbp> was that there before?
18:00:52 <[bjoern]> U GO READ LOGS
18:01:26 <sbp> oh, there it is. heh, thanks
18:01:30 <sbp> man, how did I miss that
18:01:38 <sbp> was too busy looking at your Encarta page
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19:26:09 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted "current p6grep" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/77828
19:27:04 <[bjoern]> does `die "...\n"` print the stack trace too?
19:27:54 * [bjoern] wonders if  say $line if $line ~~ $regex for =$f -> $line  works... but then may have asked that already.
19:28:33 * [bjoern] wonders if there is a smart way to smart match with $_
19:28:45 <[bjoern]> oh of course
19:28:54 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted "stupid p6grep things we tried" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/77829
19:35:06 <sbp> fuck me, some of these perl guys really know their fucking stuff
19:35:07 <Monty> potty mouth!
19:35:10 <sbp> [bjoern]: here's what they told me:
19:35:12 <sbp> .say if $_ ~~ state $x //= eval("/{@*ARGS[0]/") for lines( @*ARGS[1] // $*IN )
19:35:41 <sbp> and this *could* be lazy, but it depends on the implementation not the language
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19:38:28 <nsh> ASPLAIN
19:39:38 <sbp> well it's just putting... well, most of my code, onto one line
19:39:51 <nsh> COED DOES WHUTPLS
19:39:57 <sbp> so the // means or-if-undef
19:40:12 <sbp> and args[1] is just the second argument as normal, and $*IN is stdin
19:40:18 <sbp> so that iterates over the lines
19:40:27 <sbp> then for each line what we're doing is making a regexp
19:40:31 <sbp> out of args[0]
19:40:45 <sbp> but the state thing basically means: only do this one (only compile once)
19:40:46 <nsh> riet
19:40:49 <sbp> then reuse it each time in the loop
19:40:54 <sbp> so it's all efficient and shit
19:40:57 <nsh> hrm
19:41:09 <sbp> the $_ ~~ thing means just match the regexp against the current line
19:41:13 <nsh> what about the tildeparty--
19:41:14 <nsh> oh
19:41:17 <sbp> and .say means to say each line, that is, print it with a \n at the end
19:41:24 <[bjoern]> ~~ is the smartmatch operator
19:41:32 <nsh> is this in some kinda shell?
19:41:34 <sbp> it's actually short for $_.say(), I think
19:41:37 <sbp> this is perl6
19:41:39 <nsh> but
19:41:42 <[bjoern]> yes it is
19:42:07 <nsh> don't tell me you start perl6 expressions with .something....
19:42:44 <sbp> nope. again, that just means $_.say()
19:43:00 <sbp> so it only needs to be used when you're accessing a method on the current object
19:43:08 <sbp> i.e. the $_ object, the default object
19:43:20 <nsh> alriet
19:44:03 <nsh> still doesn't understand the 'state' part
19:44:10 <nsh> syntactically, that is
19:44:13 * _ulises .oO( witchcraft! )
19:44:59 <sbp> er yeah, I'm not sure what the //= operator does
19:45:18 <sbp> I guess it only assigns if undef
19:45:40 <nsh> well, i was assuming that ( $x //== "bleh" ) resolves to $x if it's already defined, or $x = "bleh" if it isn't
19:45:46 <nsh> (which resolves to "bleh", obviously)
19:45:57 <sbp> right
19:45:59 <nsh> but would prevent the recompilation of the regex
19:46:06 <nsh> but i don't understand the state keyword's function
19:46:27 <sbp> embarrassingly, I did read about it just the other day
19:46:29 <sbp> but I have no clue either
19:46:38 <nsh> ah well
19:47:11 <sbp> reading
19:47:28 <sbp> ooh! yes, I remember
19:47:35 <sbp> they're per-closure variables
19:48:29 <sbp> so I just presume it's needed because it's evaluating '.say if $_ ~~ state $x //= eval("/{@*ARGS[0]/")' each time around
19:48:47 <nsh> closure rings the "thing that's probably not that complicated but always looks it when you see it talked about so you've never bothered trying to understand it" bell in my headt
19:48:58 <sbp> and state makes the variable local to the closure scope, not the scope of '.say if $_ ~~ state $x //= eval("/{@*ARGS[0]/")'
19:49:08 <sbp> heh
19:49:14 <sbp> a closure is just a function and its state
19:49:29 <nsh> there you go, making more stuff up to explain other stuff
19:49:58 <sbp> a function is just an invention of the Coca Cola corportion
19:50:06 <sbp> or co-portion
19:50:40 <nsh> :-)
19:51:50 <nsh> oh ok
20:00:27 <[bjoern]> my table based utf8 decoder is down now to a 2.5k table and this
20:00:30 <[bjoern]>  while byte = readByte()
20:00:31 <[bjoern]>   data  = d[ stat << 8 + byte ];
20:00:31 <[bjoern]>   byte ^= data << 4;
20:00:32 <[bjoern]>   stat  = data >> 4;
20:00:32 <[bjoern]>   unic <<= 6;
20:00:32 <[bjoern]>   unic |= byte
20:00:33 <[bjoern]>   if stat is accepting
20:00:35 <[bjoern]>    unic = 0;
20:00:38 <[bjoern]> still not quite happy with it
20:00:52 <[bjoern]> in particular there should be some twiddling for the accepting check
20:02:19 <[bjoern]> I was thinking about storing that in the last bit, on shifting it away it would be stored in a flag on which I could jump...
20:02:45 <[bjoern]> but then I'd have to manually chop off the highest bit from the byte
20:04:30 <[bjoern]> could also make the accepting state zero, then test for that...
20:08:05 <[bjoern]> maybe byte &= ~(-(data << 3)) for the former...
20:11:01 <[bjoern]> err, << 5
20:11:19 <[bjoern]> or, hmm
20:11:27 <[bjoern]> well something along that line anyway
20:16:09 <sbp> I just got taught the magic surrounding this:
20:16:10 <sbp>  @list = (1, 2, 3, 4);
20:16:10 <sbp>  (:@even, :@odd) := classify { $_ % 2 ?? 'odd' !! 'even' }, @list;
20:17:19 <[bjoern]> should the last , be there?
20:17:47 <sbp> yeah, I think so
20:17:50 <sbp> separates the arguments
20:18:19 <sbp> so that's classify({...}, @list)
20:18:40 <sbp> you could have three outputs
20:18:55 <sbp> say you had a function as the first argument which gave out "true", "false", or "maybe"
20:19:06 <sbp> then you'd have (:@true, :@false, :@maybe)
20:19:20 <sbp> as far as I understand it
20:20:51 <[bjoern]> http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/docs/Perl6/Spec/Functions.pod says  (:@even, :@odd) := classify { $_ % 2 ?? 'odd' !! 'even' } @list;
20:21:29 <[bjoern]> which makes more sense, for you apply classify-codeblock to @list
20:21:56 <[bjoern]> in p5 the idiom is map { ... } @list  grep { ... } @list ...
20:22:14 <[bjoern]> or alternatively, map expr, @list etc.
20:22:17 <sbp> hmm, dunno
20:22:46 <[bjoern]> also, classify returns a list of pairs
20:22:57 <[bjoern]> so no @maybe
20:23:03 <sbp> ah, bummer
20:23:28 <[bjoern]> you can make your own triple returning equivalent...
20:24:00 <[bjoern]> oh below it says "Note that, unlike in Perl 5, a comma is required after the C<Matcher> in the multi form."
20:24:21 <[bjoern]> then that version of the .pod may be wrong for the classify example
20:25:26 <sbp> [bjoern]: they told me to bludgeon your face in for mentioning that repository
20:25:32 <sbp> because it's old, out of date, and useless
20:25:43 <sbp> so the comma is right
20:25:46 <[bjoern]> they tell google that!
20:26:05 <sbp> yeah, I don't doubt it
20:26:20 <sbp> I've found some really weird stuff following prominent links on really official looking sites...
20:26:48 <[bjoern]> they've been moving shit around like mad every other time interval.
20:27:34 <sbp> the default namespace is quite surprisingly uncluttered
20:33:59 <[bjoern]> .g Hindi wikipedia xml dump
20:34:00 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://reganmian.net/blog/2009/02/16/release-early-release-often-english-chinese-dictionary-based-on-wikipedia/
20:35:04 <[bjoern]> -> http://download.wikimedia.org/hiwiki/latest/
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20:46:13 <sbp> not very big
20:46:38 <[bjoern]> 117 mb test data uncompressed!
20:54:57 <sbp> smidgenous
20:58:43 <[bjoern]> I can cut the size of the table by ~50-90% if I use two table lookups, one to map a byte to a class, and then the state,class pair to a mask,state pair
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21:34:18 <Monty> But what does Tene_ have to do with the price of fish?
21:34:29 <Tene_> hi monty
21:34:30 <Monty> darla?
21:35:15 <clsn> sbp & [bjoern] : I keep telling you, you need to get your geek on with Tene_ when it comes to perl6.
21:35:25 <clsn> He's working on rakudo, the parrot implementation.
21:36:18 <Tene_> fact
21:36:55 * clsn tries compiling pugs for a change of pace. That may have been the impl they were working with.
21:36:59 <clsn> loggy: pointer
21:36:59 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2009-03-31#T21-36-59
21:37:15 <clsn> The logs should be up even now...
21:37:30 <Tene_> pugs is EFAIL
21:37:53 <[bjoern]> down to 248 bytes for the tables
21:38:06 <Tene_> if it even compiles anymore (Hard, I've heard), it's out of date and unmaintained.
21:38:39 <[bjoern]> You haven't kept telling us that, but I told sbp as much...
21:39:07 <clsn> It's nice to think that the language is not tied to one implementation, and it can be written with parrot or JVM or whatever... But screwit: let's face it, people like having a canonical source of The Language As She Is Spoke.
21:39:31 <Tene_> rakudo's the new shit. passing like 8k+ tests now.
21:39:40 <Tene_> http://rakudo.org/status
21:42:55 <clsn> .title http://paste.lisp.org/display/77829
21:42:56 <phenny> clsn: Paste number 77829: stupid p6grep things we tried
21:46:47 <clsn> Gah. Definitely a lot to read for perl6 understanding. And then I still won't get it until I find some problem worth using it on.
21:47:00 <clsn> .gc "solution in search of a problem"
21:47:01 <phenny> "solution in search of a problem": 12,800
21:47:21 <Tene_> surprisingly low
21:47:49 <clsn> Yeah. You'd think such things would happen more often.
21:48:11 <clsn> Someone recently described a particularly useless suggestion on the unicode list that way.
21:48:16 <Tene_> which parts are mindboggling you?
21:49:29 <clsn> I still need to get a proper handle on the syntax, on the :keyword stuff, on subs vs multi-subs, which seem to be used contrastively in the docs...]
21:56:51 <nsh> phenny, en fi "proof"?
21:56:52 <phenny> nsh: "todiste" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
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23:24:28 <Monty> hi danja_, how ya doing?
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23:25:26 <Monty> hi bancus_
23:28:56 <deltab> .gc "answer in search of a question"
23:28:57 <phenny> "answer in search of a question": 647
23:29:04 <deltab> huh
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23:37:15 <nsh> .gcs "answer looking for a question" "answer searching for a question" "answer in need of a question"
23:37:17 <phenny> "answer looking for a question" (208), "answer in need of a question" (8), "answer searching for a question" (7)
23:37:31 <nsh> i'd have thought more too
23:37:36 <nsh> but
23:37:37 <nsh> hrmm
23:37:38 <nsh> damn
23:37:48 <nsh> someone should really make a frequency table of english phrases
23:37:59 <nsh> that's almost worth hijacking a botnet for
23:38:17 <nsh> of course you'd want to do it periodically to get a time series
23:38:58 <nsh> then use it to create a linguistic topography
23:39:16 <nsh> except the marketing twats would get wind of it
23:39:22 <nsh> and it'd all be used for evil
23:39:29 <nsh> so, forget i ever said anything.
23:39:39 <nsh> in fact, i'm having a beer
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23:43:05 <nsh> what does this mean: [[[
23:43:14 <nsh> It [facebook] also said it had just completed its fifth straight quarter of profitability in terms of Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) and is on track to be cash-flow positive by 2010.nn
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23:43:22 <nsh> ]]] --http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/facebook-fires-finance-chief-and-offers-some-numbers/
23:43:58 <nsh> so it's been making a profit for a year and a quarter, but it still has negative cash-flow?
23:44:09 <bancus_> Gross profit
23:44:17 <nsh> oh
23:44:24 <nsh> that's a point
23:44:24 <bancus_> They're bringing in more money than they're spending, except when you count paying back interest on loans and taxes.
23:44:36 <nsh> right
23:44:45 <nsh> does that take into account investment though?
23:44:50 <nsh> that is, if they're still getting new capital
23:44:54 <bancus_> Whose investment?
23:44:58 <bancus_> No idea.
23:45:01 <nsh> aight
23:45:10 <bancus_> I guess it depends on whether that counts as earnings.
23:45:17 <nsh> *nods*
23:45:21 <bancus_> BRB
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23:45:32 <nsh> anyway, this looks cool: http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2009/03/atlas-a-visual-ide-for-desktop-like-web-apps.ars
23:47:24 <nsh> .oed mezzanine
23:47:24 <phenny> mezzanine (ety. a. F. mezzanine, ad. It. mezz...) * 1. a. A low story between two higher ones; esp. a low story between the ground floor and the story above, occas. between the ground floor and the basement. Cf. entresol. Also attrib. (quasi-a.), esp. in mezzanine floor, story., * b. A platform or...
23:47:34 <nsh> .ety mezznine
23:47:35 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "mezznine". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=mezznine
23:47:39 <nsh> .ety mezzanine
23:47:40 <phenny> "1711, 'a low story between two tall ones in a building,' from Fr., from It. mezzanino, from mezzano 'middle,' from L. medianus 'of the middle,' from medius (see medial)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=mezzanine
23:48:02 <nsh> mr
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23:52:39 <aspect> .oed storey
23:52:39 <phenny> storey (no ety.)...) * see story n.2, storied.
23:53:01 <aspect> odd .. I thought that was for buildings and story for tales
23:55:43 <nsh> nah, that would be too simple
23:58:13 * nsh hehs at ftp://ciac.llnl.gov/pub/ciac/secdocs/virus/mcdonald/virc0397.txt
23:58:24 <nsh> MEMORANDUM FOR RECORDnnSUBJECT: Viral Infections in Commercial/Government Media/Software
23:59:30 <nsh> and reads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_Dossier