2009-04-12 Swhack IRC Log

00:08:10 <kpreid> jsled: the thing is, it looks like a product of Aperture Science.
00:09:05 <tobbez> And it's made by Cyberdyne.
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02:34:49 <Monty> howdy, nsh
02:34:51 <Monty> welcome, dmiles_afk
02:34:52 <Monty> yo Morbus!
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02:38:06 <Monty> Thank goodness, xover is back!
02:39:23 <[bjoern]> Goodness had nothing to do with it, Monty.
02:39:23 <Monty> Twitter
02:39:33 <[bjoern]> in my face.
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03:52:13 <Monty> hi xjrn
03:52:52 <[bjoern]> .c 3076657414 - 3076657414
03:52:53 <phenny> 3 076 657 414 - 3 076 657 414 = 0
03:57:24 * Arnia has found a load of sheet music he thought he had mislaid
03:57:26 <Arnia> Woo!
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04:29:42 <[bjoern]> .c 0x004011EB - 0x00401100 in decimal
04:29:43 <phenny> 0x004011EB - 0x00401100 = 235
04:30:34 <[bjoern]> .c 0x00401255 - 0x004011F0 in decimal
04:30:34 <phenny> 0x00401255 - 0x004011F0 = 101
04:32:53 <MoiraA> [bjoern],
04:33:14 <MoiraA> I've been kicked out of #freenode
04:33:25 <MoiraA> and +qd in #defocus
04:52:20 <[bjoern]> Well, apparently you are doing something wong.
04:52:25 <[bjoern]> I would recommend to stop worrying.
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04:52:31 <[bjoern]> remind me in 10 minutes to !
04:52:32 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Sun Apr 12 06:02:14 BST 2009
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05:03:01 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
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05:11:15 <Monty> Thank goodness, The_Pot is back!
05:11:37 <MoiraA> I couldn't stand it
05:12:20 <MoiraA> there is the sort of brat in #freenode that makes me wish I could inflict real pain over irc
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05:36:52 <[bjoern]> .gs I love what you did with *
05:36:53 <phenny> [bjoern]: the (15), yours (7), it (6), your (3), this (3), them (3), her (3)
05:36:54 <[bjoern]> .gs I love what you did to *
05:36:55 <phenny> I love what you did to *: it (10), the (7), her hair (3), your hair (2), your (2), them (2)
05:36:58 <[bjoern]> .gs I love what you did with your *
05:36:59 <phenny> [bjoern]: hair (13), coddler (4), scraps (2), profile (2), pictures (2)
05:37:02 <[bjoern]> .gs I love what you did to the *
05:37:03 <phenny> [bjoern]: front (3), forums (3), dress (3), wall (2), smiths (2), shirt (2)
05:37:06 <[bjoern]> .gs I love what you did to your *
05:37:07 <phenny> [bjoern]: hair (13), kitchen (4), mv (3), staircase (2), sitting (2), site (2)
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05:38:39 <Monty> bah, it's jessica again
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05:50:03 <Monty> But what does jessica have to do with the price of fish?
06:12:14 <[bjoern]> .wik Kröd Mändoon
06:12:15 <phenny> "Kröd Mändoon and the Flaming Sword of Fire is a comedic sword and sorcery series, co-produced by Hat Trick Productions and MRC for Comedy Central and BBC Two, which premiered on April 9, 2009." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kröd_Mändoon
06:13:10 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.theonion.com/content/video/study_children_exposed_to
06:13:10 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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08:45:07 <sbp> yo
08:45:07 <phenny> sbp: 06:13Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.theonion.com/content/video/study_children_exposed_to
08:45:15 <_ulises> yo sbp
08:45:25 <sbp> yo _ulises
08:46:23 <_ulises> how are you today old chap?
08:47:37 <sbp> Middle English
08:49:27 <_ulises> wut?
08:55:14 <sbp> Middle English is fucking awesome
08:55:17 <sbp> Middle English <3
08:57:10 <_ulises> ah
08:57:11 <_ulises> heh
08:57:25 <sbp> .gc overspradde
08:57:25 <phenny> overspradde: 187
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09:16:43 <sbp> wow, this Smeargate thing is brilliantly childish
09:17:01 <sbp> and yet pompous at the same time
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09:18:30 <sbp> the funny thing is that he complains about Osborne "lying on the carpet at home in his permed mullet playing Monopoly with his fellow viscounts", but all of these smears are so totally snotty...
09:18:50 <sbp> .gc "permed mullet"
09:18:51 <phenny> "permed mullet": 369
09:22:45 <_ulises> is a mullet here the same as in the us?
09:22:54 <_ulises> as in: that dodgy hair cut?
09:23:07 <sbp> yeah. I hope it's a UK term though?
09:23:16 <_ulises> dunno, just wondering
09:23:18 <sbp> I didn't even know the Nonamians used it
09:23:27 <_ulises> business in front party at the back?
09:23:46 <_ulises> aye, that's their excuse for that aberration of a haircut
09:23:59 <sbp> 'As detailed in the Oxford English Dictionary, the term mullet as derogatory slang for a mullet wearer was "apparently coined, and certainly popularized, by U.S. hip-hop group the Beastie Boys"'
09:24:02 <_ulises> glad to see you using their new denomination
09:24:35 <sbp> wasn't me using it
09:24:57 <sbp> it was Damian Smeargate McBride
09:25:26 <sbp> I like how Wikipedia describes David Bowie as having a proto-mullet
09:27:40 <_ulises> no
09:27:53 <_ulises> it was ref "I didn't even know the Nonamians used it"
09:27:56 <_ulises> Nonamians
09:28:10 <sbp> ah!
09:28:14 <sbp> okay, a thing I don't get
09:28:19 <sbp> according to Wikipedia:
09:28:30 <sbp> * Good Friday commemorates Jesus' crucifixion
09:28:39 <sbp> * Easter Sunday commemorates Jesus' resurrection
09:28:46 <sbp> * Jesus was raised after three days
09:28:57 <sbp> now, I count two days from Good Friday to Easter Sunday
09:29:00 <sbp> so what's going on there?
09:29:55 <_ulises> change of calendars
09:30:00 <sbp> hmm?
09:30:21 <_ulises> from Bollockian to Bollardian
09:30:42 <_ulises> basically: when the numbers don't add up, ignore the fact and say it is so anyway
09:30:49 <sbp> "15:42 Now when evening had already come, since it was the day of preparation (that is, the day before the Sabbath)" ... 16:1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought aromatic spices so that they might go and anoint him. 16:2 And very early on the first day of the week, at sunrise, they went to the tomb." - Mark
09:31:15 <sbp> so the question is why they say after three days
09:31:33 <sbp> actually, I guess there's a secondary question:
09:31:42 <sbp> why Friday and Sunday, not Saturday and Monday?
09:32:01 <_ulises> hrm
09:32:08 <sbp> that one's probably just the obvious case that even though we use Sunday as the sabbath now, for the events in question obviously Saturday was being used
09:32:09 <_ulises> it says "before the Sabbath"
09:32:15 <_ulises> and then the very first day of the week
09:32:21 <_ulises> that says to me: Fri-Mon
09:32:23 <_ulises> hence 3 days
09:32:29 <sbp> Sunday is the first day of the week
09:32:45 <sbp> the Jewish sabbath is the seventh day, Saturday
09:32:47 <_ulises> oh, yeah, business days were invented long after eh?
09:32:49 <sbp> so the first day of the new week is Sunday
09:33:00 <sbp> well I think that came about because now we use Sunday as the sabbath
09:33:00 <_ulises> silly me
09:33:05 <sbp> phew, complicated
09:33:23 * sbp -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath
09:33:44 <_ulises> oh, first time ever I get an abusive spam email
09:34:05 <_ulises> they've always been "please help me collect the gazillion dollars inherited by sending me a check for 2 million dollars"
09:34:14 <_ulises> and now I get "Sir, respond within a week!"
09:34:16 <_ulises> wtf?
09:34:40 <sbp> 'In Christianity, both those who observe the seventh day as Sabbath and those who observe the first day as Sabbath consider themselves "Sabbatarian" and regard Sabbath as "Lord's Day", each group believing its position to be taught by the Bible; similarly for others who hold to strong Sabbath principles.'
09:34:50 <sbp> within a week: hehe
09:34:58 <sbp> ask them which reckoning of a week
09:35:26 <sbp> 'The Lord's Day is considered both the first day and the "eighth day" of the seven-day week (or, in some calendars, Sunday is designated the seventh day of the week).'
09:35:42 <sbp> well that answers that
09:35:48 <sbp> still don't know about the three days though
09:36:19 <sbp> ah: "^ This resurrection is commonly said to have occurred "on the third day", including the day of crucifixion." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday#cite_note-1
09:36:51 <_ulises> i was about to say that if you count the early hours of Fri + late hour of Sun you get almost 3 days (in hours)
09:36:53 <_ulises> or something
09:37:56 <sbp> hmm. well he died at about 3pm on the Friday according to Mark
09:38:06 <sbp> then the women went to the tomb "early" on the Sunday
09:38:17 <sbp> at sunrise
09:38:34 <sbp> so say like 8am at the latest
09:38:58 <sbp> so, 5 hours to 8pm on the first day, then 24 to the next day, then 12 to the next morning
09:39:02 <_ulises> lazy lazy
09:39:08 <sbp> 41 hours?
09:39:12 <_ulises> yeah, that's not even 2 days
09:39:43 <sbp> obviously they say three days because Mark himself says three days
09:39:52 <sbp> well, Jesus in Mark
09:39:55 <_ulises> hmm, im thinking, what if there's a new math altogether included in the bible?
09:40:03 <sbp> *math*?
09:40:07 <_ulises> like 1 + 1 = 3
09:40:18 <_ulises> i can see a whole new debate there
09:41:09 <sbp> e.g. Mar 10:34
09:41:09 <sbp> They will mock him, spit on him, flog 1 him severely, and kill him. Yet 2 after three days, 3 he will rise again.”
09:41:25 <sbp> us:math = uk:maths
09:43:25 <_ulises> k
09:43:40 <_ulises> so, yeah, a whole new set of axioms, theorems and definitions
09:44:57 <sbp> what, like Lobachevsky in the 19th century?
09:45:34 <_ulises> .wik libachevsky
09:45:36 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "libachevsky".
09:45:44 <_ulises> .wik lobachevsky
09:45:44 <phenny> "Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky (Russian: Никола́й Ива́нович Лобаче́вский) (December 1, 1792–February 24, 1856 (N.S.); November 20, 1792–February 12, 1856 (O.S.)) was a Russian mathematician, often called the Copernicus of Geometry." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobachevsky
09:47:11 <sbp> I wonder if that was a common way of counting days back then?
09:47:14 <sbp> (inclusively)
09:47:14 * _ulises reads
09:53:11 <sbp> hmm, Hugo Grotius wrote about this apparently
09:53:49 <sbp> but the book doesn't seem to be online
09:54:02 <_ulises> about the missing day?
09:54:07 <_ulises> (or apparently missing day)
09:54:11 <sbp> yeah
09:54:26 <sbp> someone in the 19th century says he proved it meant three inclusive days
09:54:32 <sbp> and gives a reference to the exact passage in Grotius
09:54:46 <JibberJim> grrr!
09:54:51 <JibberJim> I hate windows and cygwin
09:55:20 <JibberJim> how can I have files owned by users which don't exist, and which root can't take ownership of :(
09:56:14 <sbp> ref: http://books.google.com/books?id=kYoNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA383
09:56:30 <sbp> yeah, cygwin is weird
09:56:39 <sbp> once there was a build that didn't even work on Windows 98
09:56:43 <sbp> this was in like 2002 or something
09:56:51 <sbp> they didn't even bother to test it. heh
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09:59:16 <sbp> ah, another book cites this: Luke 13:32 But he said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Look, I am casting out demons and performing healings today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will complete my work.
09:59:29 <sbp> [’”]
10:00:40 <sbp> ref: http://books.google.com/books?id=a6QCAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA275
10:01:21 <sbp> interesting too: http://books.google.com/books?id=LgrOAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA235
10:03:04 <sbp> _ulises: apparently some people do believe in a Wednesday crucifixion
10:03:12 <sbp> according to http://www.wcg.org/lit/jesus/howlong.htm
10:03:59 <_ulises> hmm
10:04:05 <_ulises> I thought it happened on the Fri
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10:06:53 <sbp> yes, that's the general position
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10:07:08 <sbp> but some people take three days and three nights literally
10:07:13 <JibberJim> There would appear to be no way to change all the permissions and owners of a range of folders back to one thing just so I can start again :(
10:07:46 <sbp> JibberJim: eh? simple chmod isn't it?
10:07:50 <sbp> and chown
10:07:56 <JibberJim> it doesn't work
10:08:02 <JibberJim> that's what I mean cygwin won't let me
10:08:04 <sbp> ...weird
10:08:08 <JibberJim> even though I'm supposedly root
10:08:18 <sbp> I had to reinstall cygwin twice, I think
10:08:20 <JibberJim> if I go to windows and change the owner of the group through the windows ownership
10:08:25 <JibberJim> then cygwin starts doing it.
10:08:27 <sbp> entirely clean installations, because of crap like this
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10:11:52 <JibberJim> the more annoying thing is the windows changing permissions ownership doesn't appear to work properly either
10:12:02 <JibberJim> it says it's going through all the files/folders setting ownership
10:12:08 <JibberJim> but when you get there, it appears not :(
10:13:40 <sbp> "Church of England expects 1.5 worshippers" - BBC News caption
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10:17:03 <sbp> oh, and a Monty2
10:17:19 <_ulises> too many montys for my taste
10:17:31 <sbp> we are becoming Monty gluttons
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10:19:23 <_ulises> masochism at its best
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10:47:32 <_ulises> o_O
10:52:38 <sbp> http://www.lingo2word.com/translatetxt.php by the way
10:54:29 <sbp> .title http://viralvideochart.com/
10:54:29 <phenny> Can't connect to http://viralvideochart.com/
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11:10:40 <sbp> .gc enrubbish
11:10:40 <phenny> enrubbish: 0
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11:41:31 <xover> .rubbish
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16:43:39 <[bjoern]> nu
17:25:21 <_ulises> nu2
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18:41:40 <deltab> ‹thecybercontroller› zombies are really the perfect easter monster, because they're all about coming back to life
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21:01:05 <deltab> phenny: "здорово!"?
21:01:06 <phenny> deltab: "cool!" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
21:01:37 <deltab> phenny: "Вём Омериканцам, и Омериканкам!"?
21:01:38 <phenny> deltab: The bg to en translation failed, sorry!
21:02:04 <deltab> phenny: "Ты меня понимаешь?"
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21:18:53 <[bjoern]> phenny: "Ты меня понимаешь"?
21:18:54 <phenny> [bjoern]: "You know what I mean" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
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