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08:28:00 <sbp> yo
08:28:00 <phenny> sbp: 24 Apr 23:27Z <nslater> tell sbp http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009/04/mercurial-support-for-project-hosting.html
08:29:06 <sbp> oh, good. when will they support darcs?
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08:33:05 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8017823.stm
08:33:06 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Israeli oranges 'on sale in Iran'
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08:34:08 <sbp> “French women are the lightest in the EU. British women are the heaviest”
08:34:12 <sbp> — Independent via BBC
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08:51:36 <_ulises> yo
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08:52:46 <Monty> lo xjrn
08:53:08 <cre8radix> yo
08:53:23 <sbp> yo _ulises, cre8radix, Monty
08:53:27 <Monty> dreadlocks's Schumacher's mugshot stocks extensions's video driving skills...
08:53:35 <cre8radix> :)
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09:06:07 <sbp> nsh: First and foremost, keep your head. Be calm. Go about your ordinary business quietly and soberly. Do not indulge in excitement or foolish demonstrations.
09:07:06 <sbp> cre8radix: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/audio/2009/apr/24/police-surveillance-intelligence-1
09:08:47 * nsh notes
09:11:43 <nsh> wait
09:11:50 <nsh> are the police allowed to pay informants cash in hand
09:11:57 <nsh> we should report them to the DWP
09:12:15 <nsh> i'd love to see that little white circle home in on scotland yard
09:12:17 <sbp> yeah, of course they are. who's going to arrest them?
09:12:28 <nsh> metapol?
09:12:37 <sbp> they're even more corrupt
09:12:44 <nsh> ambipol?
09:12:48 <nsh> they probably couldn't be bothered
09:12:49 <sbp> they don't care
09:12:51 <sbp> heheh
09:12:51 * nsh smiles
09:13:00 <nsh> gothpol?
09:13:00 <cre8radix> sbp: lol
09:13:15 <nsh> they probably have the right level of cynicism for the job
09:13:24 <nsh> but the trenchcoats would be too unwealdy
09:13:34 <sbp> I think police forces non-contiguous to other forces should investigate the other forces
09:13:36 <cre8radix> ueberpol!
09:14:00 <nsh> would ueberpol be genetically engineered to be infertle, so that they wouldn't interbreed with regpol?
09:14:02 <sbp> maybe they do, I dunno how their shit works
09:14:25 <cre8radix> nsh: you bet! :D
09:14:40 <sbp> .gc microbanana
09:14:41 <phenny> microbanana: 616
09:14:43 <nsh> check out our new corrupticide-resistent monsatopol!
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09:15:54 <nsh> man, this informantpol conversation is painful to read
09:16:17 <nsh> ECOMMSEFFTOOLOW
09:17:16 <sbp> Officer 2: "UK plc can afford more than twenty quid."
09:17:17 <sbp> Tilly: "What is UK plc?" [...]
09:17:18 <sbp> hahaha
09:17:34 <nsh> oh, P L C
09:17:37 <nsh> i was reading P I C
09:17:42 <cre8radix> lol
09:17:46 <cre8radix> hehe
09:18:10 <sbp> wonder how much the Guardian are paying her
09:18:18 <sbp> more than twenty quid, perhaps
09:18:42 <cre8radix> probably adding a zero
09:18:53 <cre8radix> or two even
09:18:55 <sbp> ahahaha:
09:18:58 <sbp> “So they give the money to, maybe Cancer Research, Save the Whale, whatever.”
09:19:03 <sbp> Save the Whale!
09:19:03 <nsh> yeah, but they're question-repeat limit is 230% that of strathclydepol
09:19:10 <sbp> it's really getting imperative, people!
09:19:11 <nsh> man
09:19:13 <sbp> there's only one left!
09:19:20 <nsh> that whale keeps hogging all the saves
09:19:31 <nsh> no-one can resume when he's about
09:19:34 <cre8radix> edgin around NOT twenty and ten thousand
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09:19:36 <Monty> hi darkenergy
09:20:33 <sbp> damn, I should've got into ecoenvironmentalist informing
09:20:43 <cre8radix> :)
09:20:45 <sbp> looks pretty lucrative, cash in hand from UK plc
09:21:07 <cre8radix> you mean you didn't
09:21:08 <cre8radix> ?
09:21:52 <cre8radix> i thought you were tapping chris mccrae
09:22:03 <cre8radix> or sumpn
09:22:12 * nsh was drumming syncostyle on her femur
09:22:14 <nsh> if that helps
09:22:27 <sbp> no that was tav
09:22:34 <cre8radix> heh
09:22:40 <nsh> [[[
09:22:41 <nsh> Known as Tilly, she has taken part in high-profile campaigns against airport expansion in Scotland over the last 18 months. She was charged with vandalism and breach of the peace, and released on bail the following day, after an incident at Aberdeen airport on 3 March when seven protesters barricaded themselves on to a taxiway dressed as Donald Trump.
09:22:45 <nsh> ]]] --http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/25/police-informers-tape-recordings-gifford
09:22:50 <sbp> chuckle
09:22:53 <nsh> individually dressed as trump, or all together?!?
09:23:02 <nsh> MECHATRUMP COMBINE!
09:23:04 <sbp> I'd guess two groups of 9 making two trumps
09:23:07 <nsh> word
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09:24:01 <sbp> .wik Save the Whale
09:24:02 <phenny> "Whaling is the hunting of whales and dates back to at least 4,000 BC.[citation needed]| The evolution of traditional Arctic whaling developed with increasing rapidity with early organized fleets in the 17th century; competitive national whaling industries in the 18th [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling
09:24:17 <sbp> that's a pretty ironic result
09:24:43 <sbp> I dunno why that's making me chox so hard
09:24:50 <sbp> I mean the transcriber probably just left the s out
09:24:54 <sbp> but it's really funny
09:25:28 * nsh choxtoo
09:25:36 <sbp> oh actually, more sensible would be taking Whale as a species noun
09:26:12 <sbp> also, have you seen the video of the bull in the supermarket in Ireland?
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09:26:30 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8017391.stm
09:26:31 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Northern Ireland | Runaway bull's supermarket sweep
09:28:16 <sbp> the best bit is when the farmer goes in to try to sort it out
09:31:28 <sbp> go Frank:
09:31:29 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8017456.stm
09:31:31 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | UK | Angry Frank Lampard calls radio DJ
09:32:16 <cre8radix> heya
09:32:39 <cre8radix> sbp, nsh: wanna sign my pledge?
09:33:15 <cre8radix> http://www.pledgebank.com/gemahacksupport
09:34:48 <sbp> .wik GEMA
09:34:48 <phenny> "Georgia Emergency Management Agency" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEMA
09:36:09 <cre8radix> sbp: the gema is the only collecting society in germany
09:36:52 <cre8radix> collecting royalties for public broadcast and mechanical reproduction of music
09:37:04 <sbp> why do you need a hundred names?
09:37:06 <sbp> why not just do it? heh
09:37:17 <cre8radix> i'll do it anyway
09:37:20 <sbp> hehe
09:37:34 <cre8radix> but i wanna drag the attention of the media
09:37:52 <sbp> tell 'em you've got proof that George Michael is gay
09:37:55 <cre8radix> and that's gonna be difficult when it's "just" me
09:38:04 <cre8radix> plus
09:38:15 <cre8radix> this is an international issue
09:38:43 <cre8radix> the gema has a monopoly on that issue
09:39:17 <sbp> so the problem is that if you're signed up with GEMA, you have to retain full copyright of your work? that if, say, you licensed it under a CC license then GEMA would no longer collect royalties for you?
09:40:00 <cre8radix> better
09:40:24 <cre8radix> artists who are members of the gema, can not choose ANY other licenses
09:40:33 <cre8radix> they are simply not allowed to
09:40:57 <sbp> why not just boycott GEMA then?
09:41:25 <cre8radix> because that would mean cutting yourself off the cashflow
09:41:42 <cre8radix> which i did
09:41:50 <cre8radix> since i left the gema
09:42:11 <sbp> why do GEMA say they don't allow other licenses?
09:42:17 <sbp> mightn't it make them hard to collect money?
09:42:31 <sbp> I mean, they'd have to know the full terms of all licenses used and check and so on
09:42:33 <cre8radix> the point is, that the gema prevents creative commons or other licenses from spreading
09:42:38 <sbp> would probably be a bugger for them
09:43:21 <cre8radix> another point is, that i can't make music with my friends who are in the gema
09:43:49 <cre8radix> because then automatically all we release would'nt be free culture
09:46:06 <cre8radix> artist who are gema-members can't even have their own songs on their own websites (only previews of max. 45 secs)
09:46:16 <cre8radix> O_o
09:46:27 <sbp> why don't they allow other licenses?
09:46:32 <cre8radix> the time is right to put them under pressure
09:46:46 <cre8radix> because they don't have to
09:47:06 <cre8radix> it would probably be more administrative work for them
09:47:23 <cre8radix> it's also a political issue
09:47:38 <cre8radix> the gema consists of it's members
09:47:47 <sbp> so if it would be more work for them, perhaps too much for them to cope, how are you going to change their minds?
09:48:17 <sbp> they'd literally have to check every license used, wouldn't they?
09:48:23 <cre8radix> because there is a directive from the EU
09:49:19 <cre8radix> saying that the monopolistic ties of collecting societies have to be broken
09:49:58 <sbp> doesn't that mean there ought to be *other* collecting societies?
09:50:10 <sbp> rather than license proliferation in only one collecting society?
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09:50:47 <cre8radix> both would be great
09:51:01 <sbp> yeah, but I mean...
09:51:14 <sbp> if the EU only support there being other collecting societies
09:51:16 <cre8radix> the gema says that creative commons licensing is bad for professional musicians
09:51:21 <sbp> that doesn't really help you
09:51:25 <cre8radix> no
09:51:38 <sbp> so again, what are you going to do?
09:51:38 <cre8radix> and it won't happen in the next ten years
09:51:51 <sbp> going to the GEMA and saying "be unprofitable" isn't really going to go down well. heh
09:52:11 <cre8radix> 1) i'm going to arouse public interest in the subject
09:52:35 <cre8radix> 2) i'm gonna get the open source/free culture community to back me up
09:52:51 <cre8radix> 3) i'm gonna hold a press conference
09:53:02 <sbp> I hear you can get cash-in-hand grants from UK plc, if you're interested
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09:53:11 <cre8radix> heh
09:53:28 <sbp> anyway, those sound good if you can do it
09:53:34 <sbp> thought about setting up a website?
09:53:38 <cre8radix> yeah
09:53:50 <cre8radix> i'm writing everything up atm
09:53:55 <sbp> gemadummheit.de
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10:03:17 <cre8radix> sbp: what i need now, is some backup
10:03:23 <cre8radix> from...
10:03:33 <cre8radix> PUBLIC DICK
10:03:42 <cre8radix> well
10:04:06 <cre8radix> some people from around the globe...
10:06:29 <sbp> yeah. gonna be hard to get critical mass
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10:13:50 <cre8radix> sbp: i don't actually think so
10:14:14 <cre8radix> there are lots of people in germany who are fed up with the gema
10:18:19 <cre8radix> sbp: jeffarch didn't wanna sign either
10:18:31 * cre8radix wonders what he is doing wrong
10:18:34 <cre8radix> :)
10:22:53 <sbp> online polls are a bit amateur hour, to me, to be quite honest
10:23:00 <sbp> I mean, it's not exactly the National Covenant is it?
10:23:16 <sbp> they're so easy to forge and so on
10:23:22 <sbp> and compare tav's python issue stacking. that was quite funny
10:23:49 <sbp> also I don't think you're going to hold a press conference
10:24:07 <sbp> or if you are, you're only going to get a few fruity left wing student rags attending
10:24:12 <cre8radix> w00t?
10:24:19 <sbp> and anyway, I think that the website idea is fine
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10:24:25 <cre8radix> sbp: watch me!
10:24:27 <sbp> and if you're working on that, that might get much more publicity
10:24:27 <cre8radix> :)
10:24:35 <sbp> sure, if you manage to pull it off then great!
10:24:45 <sbp> but like, the web seems to be the way forward...
10:24:52 <sbp> fuck conventional media
10:24:59 <cre8radix> if i do, are you gonna write me a script?
10:25:08 <cre8radix> :D
10:25:13 <cre8radix> nevermind
10:25:14 <sbp> for the press conference? hmm, yeah, I could certainly do that
10:25:18 <cre8radix> lol
10:25:22 <sbp> :-)
10:25:27 <cre8radix> that'd be fun, man
10:26:23 <sbp> I guess the main problem you're working against is getting non-media producers interested
10:26:36 <sbp> because that'd go down much better than just the people producing being annoyed
10:26:41 <sbp> if consumers were annoyed too
10:26:47 <cre8radix> ❦
10:26:53 <sbp> then again, cf. the RIAA situation. consumers are going mental against them
10:26:59 <sbp> and the RIAA aren't budging
10:27:04 <sbp> I guess you could tie it into that?
10:27:10 <sbp> paint the GEMA as the German RIAA?
10:30:53 <cre8radix> sbp: yeah
10:31:24 <cre8radix> also i was thinking about denunciation
10:31:47 <cre8radix> i'll just report all myspace accounts of famous german bands to the gema
10:32:00 <cre8radix> for using their own song in their profiles
10:32:06 <sbp> ...hehe, good idea?
10:32:08 <cre8radix> .leo abmahnen
10:32:09 <phenny> jmdn. abmahnen | mahnte ab, abgemahnt | = to admonish so., to warn so., to give so. a warning, to give so. a written warning
10:32:10 <phenny> abmahnen | mahnte ab, abgemahnt | = to serve notice
10:32:11 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=abmahnen
10:32:44 <cre8radix> and then say to them: see... that's what happens when you're sleeping with the enemy
10:32:47 <cre8radix> :D
10:33:44 <sbp> though the GEMA might not even do anything about the big guys
10:33:52 <sbp> or, "watch how fast they move"
10:34:24 <cre8radix> they'll have to move, once it's in the media
10:34:38 <cre8radix> i'll just blow the whistle
10:38:14 <nsh> [[[
10:38:17 <nsh> Official figures released this morning showed gross domestic product (GDP) fell by 1.9% between January and March. This is the sharpest quarterly decline since the third quarter of 1979, the year when Margaret Thatcher came to power.
10:38:22 <nsh> ]]] --http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/apr/24/uk-economy-recession-gdp-falls
10:38:28 <nsh> I CAN HAS DEJA-VU?!
10:38:49 <nsh> it'll be like childhood never went away
10:39:03 <nsh> there'll be pogs and shellsuits and splitting the atom with yo-yos
10:41:59 <sbp> haha
10:42:19 <kpreid> POGS
10:43:12 <sbp> Alf accidentally the whole pog
10:47:48 <sbp> marmite cheese is quite nice
10:47:55 <sbp> they've put just the right amount of marmite in, I think
10:49:13 <cre8radix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNP4t7_hFRg
10:49:16 <cre8radix> .title
10:49:17 <sbp> .title
10:49:17 <phenny> cre8radix: YouTube - The Prodigy-You'll Be Under My Wheels
10:49:18 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - The Prodigy-You'll Be Under My Wheels
10:49:19 <cre8radix> hehe
10:49:22 <sbp> :-)
10:49:55 <cre8radix> my older daughter is celebrating her 13th b-day party tonite
10:50:01 <sbp> cool
10:50:06 * cre8radix is checkin a playlist
10:50:14 <sbp> happy b'day brudina jr.
10:50:30 <cre8radix> b-day was on the 16th
10:50:34 <sbp> ah
10:50:43 <cre8radix> actuall... she's in tribalradix atm
10:50:49 <sbp> ah!
10:51:00 <cre8radix> mib_foobar
10:52:49 <sbp> .w pedunculated
10:52:49 <phenny> pedunculated — adjective: 1. pedunculate
10:53:40 <sbp> .w pedunculate
10:53:41 <phenny> pedunculate — adjective: 1. Having a peduncle or stalk
10:53:46 <sbp> .w peduncule
10:53:47 <phenny> Couldn't get any definitions for peduncule.
10:53:53 <sbp> .w peduncle
10:53:54 <phenny> peduncle — noun: 1. (botany) The axis of an inflorescence; the stalk supporting an inflorescence, 2. (anatomy) A bundle of neurons connecting different parts of the brain
10:54:04 <sbp> .w inflorescence
10:54:08 <phenny> inflorescence — noun: 1. flower cluster, 2. (eventual etymological fallacy) a beginning to flower
11:05:21 <sbp> phenny: tell clsn Mae'r Te yn Bwrw'i Ffrwyth
11:05:22 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when clsn is around.
11:05:31 <sbp> phenny: tell clsn (Welsh Idiom of the Day)
11:05:31 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when clsn is around.
11:05:52 <cre8radix> "This video is not available in your country. Skipped to the next available video."
11:07:49 <_ulises> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AS59hWzkVc
11:07:50 <phenny> _ulises: YouTube - Stringfever (Classical string quartet v Madness??)
11:11:03 <sbp> .cy grawn
11:11:04 <phenny> grawn, nm grain, cereal (BBC)
11:11:05 <phenny> grawn grains of corn n. roe n. berries n. grains n. (Geiriadur)
11:11:19 <_ulises> .w sbp
11:11:19 <Monty> will celebrate 30 years that's different to erlang processes
11:11:20 <phenny> Couldn't get any definitions for sbp.
11:11:48 <sbp> .cy symudol
11:11:49 <phenny> symudol, adj mobile, movable, motive, moving, shifting (BBC)
11:11:50 <phenny> symudol mobile adj. portable adj. (Geiriadur)
11:14:47 <sbp> chuckle. y stwff gwyn
11:15:05 <sbp> .cy beryglus
11:15:08 <phenny> peryglus, adj Example example_sentence=Mae'r heol fawr yn beryglus gan fod llawer o bobl yn gyrru'n rhy gyflym. dangerous, hazardous, insecure, perilous, precarious, risky, unsafe (BBC)
11:15:09 <phenny> No matches. (Geiriadur)
11:15:32 <sbp> oh, must be cognate with perilous
11:15:41 <sbp> peruhglis
11:17:45 <sbp> .cy cyfarchion
11:17:47 <phenny> cyfarchion, npl greetings (BBC)
11:17:48 <phenny> cyfarchion greetings n. compliments n.pl. (cyfarchion (=greetings)) (Geiriadur)
11:20:14 <sbp> .cy negeseuon
11:20:16 <phenny> neges, nf (negesau,negeseuau,negeseuon) Example example_sentence=Mae'r ysgrifenyddes wedi gadael neges i'r rheolwr yngly^n â'r cyfarfod. message (BBC)
11:20:17 <phenny> neges message n.f. (negeseuon) negeseuon messages n. (Geiriadur)
11:21:18 <cre8radix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ovoPCZSQw
11:21:21 <cre8radix> best!
11:21:23 <cre8radix> .title
11:21:24 <phenny> cre8radix: YouTube - Aphex Twin Windowlicker Chris Cunningham High-rez
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13:39:33 <Monty> hi danja, how ya doing?
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13:58:14 <sbp> http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/nkorea_04_24/n32_18402855.jpg
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14:13:49 <kpreid> my first thought was "those tanks have bent barrels"
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14:23:10 <sbp> I love how good and how terrible they are simultaneously
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14:56:10 <[bjoern]> o!
14:56:38 <sbp> gutenyo!
14:56:47 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25272600-2702,00.html
14:56:49 <phenny> [bjoern]: Vioxx maker Merck and Co drew up doctor hit list | The Australian
15:07:39 <[bjoern]> hmm http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/25/0139213
15:07:39 <[bjoern]> .title
15:07:40 <phenny> [bjoern]: Slashdot | Old Sierra Games Playable In Browser Through Open Source Game Engine
15:09:06 <[bjoern]> "My own personal grade wrecker is back, awesome. I always enjoyed how Sierra made the death sequences so humorous, I'd spend hours trying to kill myself in inventive ways. Monkey Island's parody of creative avatar murder was hilarious."
15:13:30 <sbp> .u place of interest
15:13:30 <phenny> U+2318 PLACE OF INTEREST SIGN (⌘)
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16:33:43 <[bjoern]> https://www.sysedata.no/nyheter/edvin-tables#english
16:52:22 <sbp> hehe. Brønnøysundregistrenefail
17:01:45 <[bjoern]> .ety sapience
17:01:45 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "sapience". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=sapience
17:01:49 <[bjoern]> .w sapience
17:01:50 <phenny> sapience — noun: 1. The property of being sapient, the property of possessing or being able to possess wisdom
17:01:56 <[bjoern]> .wik sapience
17:01:57 <phenny> "Sapience is often defined as wisdom, or the ability of an organism or entity to act with appropriate judgment." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapience
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17:08:15 <[bjoern]> .wik Nuh
17:08:15 <phenny> "Nuh is a town in Mewat district in the Indian state of Haryana." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuh
17:08:27 <cre8radix> http://www.onlinewahn.de/neustart.htm
17:08:41 <cre8radix> restart the internet
17:08:47 <cre8radix> restart impossible
17:09:17 <cre8radix> phenny: "Falls Sie eben tatsächlich das gesamte Internet zerstört haben, behalten Sie's für sich, und erzählen Sie's bloß niemandem."?
17:09:18 <phenny> cre8radix: "If you really just destroys the entire Internet that's to keep for themselves, and tell it's just nobody." (de to en, translate.google.com)
17:09:41 <cre8radix> phenny: "Einige Sites waren sowieso erst nach 128 Bit
17:09:42 <cre8radix> zu ertragen. Schreien Sie am Besten laut um
17:09:42 <cre8radix> Hilfe oder fragen nach Info um festzustellen, daß keiner antwortet. "?
17:09:47 <cre8radix> oops
17:10:11 <cre8radix> phenny: "Einige Sites waren sowieso erst nach 128 Bit zu ertragen. Schreien Sie am Besten laut um Hilfe oder fragen nach Info um festzustellen, daß keiner antwortet. "?
17:10:12 <phenny> cre8radix: "Some sites were anyway until after 128 bits to endure. Screaming loud it is best to ask for help or information to determine that none answered." (de to en, translate.google.com)
17:10:26 <cre8radix> :)
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17:13:07 <[bjoern]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_event lists only "Alien invasion" under "other"
17:14:48 <[bjoern]> "Genetic evidence suggests that all humans alive today, despite their apparent variety, are descended from a very small population, perhaps between 1,000 to 10,000 breeding pairs about 70,000 years ago." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory
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17:19:19 <nsh> btw
17:19:21 <nsh> world is ending
17:26:31 <sbp> not according to BBC News
17:26:35 <sbp> unless you mean the pandemic
17:28:42 <sbp> or the spread of Twitter
17:28:44 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/8018471.stm
17:28:45 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | England | Shropshire | Magistrate resigns in Twitter row
17:52:11 <sbp> .gc "Bank of Money"
17:52:12 <phenny> "Bank of Money": 561
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18:10:25 <[bjoern]> does he resign in twitter, or in rl?
18:12:43 <[bjoern]> "By analyzing the Y-chromosome DNA from males in all regions of the world, geneticist Spencer Wells has concluded that all humans alive today are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 years ago."
18:20:26 <sbp> @bjoern shup foo
18:20:44 <sbp> man, that felt gross even as a joke
18:20:50 <sbp> @ just isn't natural
18:20:52 <[bjoern]> I don't think bjoern frequents this channel.
18:21:03 <sbp> [bjoern] isn't a legal Twittername
18:21:41 <[bjoern]> I had not even thought you might be trying to emulate twitterchat.
18:22:04 <sbp> .gc "JINBA ITTAI"
18:22:05 <phenny> "JINBA ITTAI": 3,510
18:22:14 <sbp> .gc "crouching kitten, hidden hippo"
18:22:15 <phenny> "crouching kitten, hidden hippo": 55
18:22:52 <[bjoern]> So I've been thinking about random data generation from Alexander
18:23:08 <sbp> why not use Monty for that?
18:23:11 <Monty> Face it: stickers plays with respectable building society!!!
18:23:13 <[bjoern]> pondering if I should just do the simple thing and limit recursion depth for non-regular languages
18:23:33 <sbp> why? gonna run out of stack?
18:23:34 <[bjoern]> and thus turn non-regular ones into regular ones
18:23:38 <[bjoern]> Well
18:23:58 <[bjoern]> I am not sure how to properly implement complement and intersection alongside non-regular recursion
18:24:20 <[bjoern]> also, I already have code for generating random string from DFA
18:24:32 <[bjoern]> by virtue of having code that simply enumerates all strings matched by a dfa
18:27:18 <sbp> you could always add the recursive stuff later
18:29:47 <[bjoern]> I'd like to start out with something that I can easily verify and that works with all grammars, so...
18:34:40 <[bjoern]> Well there is one alternative... I could compute random strings like I compute DFAs...
18:35:06 <[bjoern]> Adding some recursion checks should make that work for non-regular grammars...
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18:35:49 <[bjoern]> Might be a little bit ineffecient though
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18:49:00 <sbp> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01389/squirrel-dragon_1389860i.jpg
18:49:19 <[bjoern]> Disappointingly not a squirrel dragon
18:52:07 <sbp> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01389/birds-nesting_1389886i.jpg
18:59:46 <sbp> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01389/personal-transport_1389807i.jpg
19:00:06 <[bjoern]> I would not mind them transporting me.
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19:20:49 <[bjoern]> remind me in 4 minutes to !
19:20:49 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Sat Apr 25 20:26:35 BST 2009
19:25:15 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
19:25:45 <[bjoern]> Excellent Monty, I shall prepare then to engage starvation in battle soonishly.
19:25:47 <Monty> everything going perfectly
19:26:02 <[bjoern]> As we have forseen it.
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19:48:33 <sbp> .w cadge
19:48:35 <phenny> cadge — noun: 1. (falconry) A circular frame on which cadgers carry hawks for sale — verb: 1. (Geordie) To beg, 2. (US, British, slang) To obtain something by wit or guile; to convince someone to do something they might not normally do
19:48:37 <sbp> .ety codger
19:48:37 <phenny> "1756, probably a variant of cadger 'beggar,' origin unknown." - http://etymonline.com/?term=codger
19:56:00 <nsh> i pressed the button to open my desktop's dvd burner
19:56:06 <nsh> and the tray had freakin dust on it
19:56:18 <nsh> it hasn't been open in years
19:56:26 <nsh> but where the fuck did the dust come from?
19:57:15 <nsh> i mean, is that dust that the PSU fan has brought into the case and has managed against overwhelming fluid-dynamic odds to settle on the dvd tray
19:57:35 <nsh> or is there some poltergeist that opens the tray at night and beats carpets over it?!
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19:59:38 * sbp watches HIGABMNFY
20:01:54 <sbp> ooh, Frank Skinner
20:10:48 <[bjoern]> Is he related to Walter Skinner?
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20:39:19 <sbp> maybe
20:49:05 <kpreid> nsh: the dvd burner's front slot is a space for air to pass through
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20:49:20 <kpreid> since the pressure in the case is higher/lower than outside, air will flow through everywhere it can
20:54:20 <nsh> your imput, it makes wonderful, boring, sense :-)
20:54:31 <nsh> s/im/in/
20:57:13 <Arnia> I'm going to nickname the minor seventh the widescreen interval...
20:57:13 <phenny> Arnia: 00:09Z <nslater> tell Arnia http://www.livescience.com/health/090423-earlybird-nightowl.html
20:57:14 <phenny> Arnia: 13:59Z <nslater> tell Arnia http://www.drunkmenworkhere.org/
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20:58:48 <mib_2tmln9mv> hullo
20:59:01 <mib_2tmln9mv> wuzzzzzzupppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
20:59:06 <mib_2tmln9mv> tits?
20:59:15 <Arnia> "A minor seventh in just intonation corresponds to a pitch ratio of 16:9 or 9:5" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_seventh
20:59:25 <nsh> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8016620.stm
20:59:26 <phenny> nsh: BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Pc 'eager to hit G20 protesters'
20:59:34 <nsh> UR CUNNING PLAN....
20:59:34 <Arnia> mib_2tmln9mv: please declare your aspect ratio
20:59:39 <mib_2tmln9mv> garro?
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21:00:05 <nsh> Arnia, how often are you planning to employ that nickname?
21:00:14 <Arnia> Very very infrequently
21:00:23 <nsh> i personally would squeeze all the mileage possible out of it
21:00:31 <Arnia> Mostly just to wind up my music student friends
21:00:43 <nsh> perhaps with a one-man cabaret show dedicated to the minor seventh
21:00:55 <nsh> or a soliloquay in speaker's corner
21:01:07 <Arnia> ooh, speaker's corner would be good
21:01:13 <nsh> (it's a place where lonely boaters set off from)
21:02:17 <nsh> how is the adrenaline btw?
21:02:21 <nsh> was a bit worried back there
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21:03:20 <Arnia> still high unfortunately
21:03:29 <Arnia> I don't know why my leg is so bad atm
21:03:41 <Arnia> it is annoying me though, because I'm finding it hard to sleep
21:03:49 <nsh> perhaps it's your body's precognizant way of preparing you for the impending apocalypse: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm ...
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21:04:11 <nsh> can you do vigourous exercise/obtain valium?
21:04:34 <nsh> those would be the first two emergency-plans from my filing cabinet
21:05:07 <Arnia> Fuck... and I've got a cold atm too :(
21:05:16 <Arnia> yay impending doom and death
21:05:50 * nsh was impressed with the use of "gallows humour"
21:06:06 <nsh> educated foreign people are one of the best resources for great english
21:06:09 <Arnia> heh
21:06:30 <nsh> in fact, i may just stop talking to native speakers
21:06:41 <nsh> and anyone outside of the prometheus society
21:07:26 * nsh wonders if where and when they have meetings
21:07:39 <nsh> i bet there's none of the inanity at MENSAcons
21:07:46 <nsh> (haven't been)
21:08:02 <nsh> irreverance appears to be tonight's cadance
21:08:03 <nsh> .ety cadance
21:08:03 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "cadance". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=cadance
21:08:09 <nsh> .ety cadence
21:08:09 <Monty> clsn: did - 1970s Cartoon Music Video Black White
21:08:09 <phenny> "c.1384, 'flow of rhythm in verse or music,' from M.Fr. cadence, O.It. cadenza 'conclusion of a movement in music,' lit. 'a falling,' from V.L. *cadentia, from L. cadens prp. of cadere 'to fall' (see case (1))." - http://etymonline.com/?term=cadence
21:21:18 <Arnia> Conservatives have just lost my vote for using the phrase "We're pushing forward the Blair agenda"
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22:01:42 <Monty> Speak of the devil, it's d3llboy!
23:03:35 <kpreid> .gc "Blair agenda"
23:03:36 <phenny> "Blair agenda": 1,090
23:03:37 <kpreid> .gc "Blair Witch agenda"
23:03:38 <phenny> "Blair Witch agenda": 0
23:03:50 <kpreid> .gc "aardvark agenda"
23:03:51 <phenny> "aardvark agenda": 2
23:04:03 <kpreid> .gc non-axiomatic agenda
23:04:04 <phenny> non-axiomatic agenda: 10,100
23:04:17 <kpreid> .gc "conservative agenda"
23:04:19 <phenny> "conservative agenda": 36,800
23:04:48 <kpreid> .gc phenny agenda
23:04:49 <phenny> phenny agenda: 79
23:05:03 <kpreid> .gc swhack agenda
23:05:04 <phenny> swhack agenda: 21
23:06:07 <[bjoern]> .gc "blair is a witch"
23:06:07 <phenny> "blair is a witch": 21
23:06:17 <[bjoern]> We have a match.
23:06:49 <kpreid> oh no, [bjoern] has taken up gematria
23:07:08 <[bjoern]> .wik gematria
23:07:08 <phenny> "Gematria or gimatria (Hebrew: גימטריה, gēmaṭriyā) is a system of assigning numerical value to an alphabet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
23:08:13 <kpreid> ( http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/04/yet_another_bible_code_bozo.php )
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23:45:49 <nsh> "California sociology professor is brought up on charges, accused of anti-Semitism for sending an email which described Gaza as a vast concentration camp."
23:45:53 <nsh> surely...
23:46:06 <nsh> if highly-educated people aren't allowed to be liberal-minded, then what's the fucking point of education?
23:58:59 <deltab> “Credit Suisse analyst Spencer Wang predicts that YouTube makes an average of 0.4 cents each time a video is watched. If his calculations are correct, the site will earn $240.9 in revenue this year.” — http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/04/youtube-cant-sa.html
