00:03:31 <jsled> phenny: tell [bjoern] to enjoy <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jean-luc-picard>, especially the youtube video therein.
00:03:31 <phenny> jsled: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
00:04:38 <[bjoern]> You better not regret me regretting that should I regret that.
00:04:39 <phenny> [bjoern]: 00:03Z <jsled> tell [bjoern] to enjoy <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jean-luc-picard>, especially the youtube video therein.
00:05:39 <[bjoern]> The first pix is from from the first contact movie I'd say
00:06:00 <[bjoern]> the second from the episode where some ferengi abducts the troys
00:06:00 <Monty> see, nice chap will be going really inst on hosts to eat cake
00:06:22 <[bjoern]> same for vid frame
00:07:36 <[bjoern]> the must not fap one is the episode where there are temporal anomalies throughout a whole sector, due to weird beings nesting in a romulan core, he just tried to reach for the fruits
00:08:11 <[bjoern]> now let's videre
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00:09:19 <[bjoern]> instant ear cancer
00:09:29 <[bjoern]> the first clip in the vid isn't even him
00:09:37 <cre8radix> [bjoern]: http://blog.zdf.de/3sat.neues/2009/04/interview-mit-johnny-haeusler.html
00:09:56 <cre8radix> nicht das schlechteste interview
00:09:59 <[bjoern]> Still busy suffering the prev link
00:10:09 <cre8radix> eher eins der besseren
00:10:30 <cre8radix> don't suffer... clear the buffer!
00:10:34 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell bsh http://blog.zdf.de/3sat.neues/2009/04/interview-mit-johnny-haeusler.html
00:10:34 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when bsh is around.
00:10:55 <cre8radix> :)
00:11:10 <cre8radix> have yo seen it yet?
00:12:23 <[bjoern]> The interview? No.
00:12:48 <cre8radix> no..
00:12:51 <cre8radix> i no
00:13:09 <cre8radix> s/no/know
00:13:34 <cre8radix> now don't you!
00:13:47 <cre8radix> heh
00:13:54 <cre8radix> that's nice
00:14:11 * cre8radix writes lyrix, no!?
00:14:54 <cre8radix> :)
00:15:20 <cre8radix> what's your middle name?
00:15:33 <cre8radix> sigmar?
00:15:45 <cre8radix> sigfried even?
00:15:57 <cre8radix> sacsha
00:15:58 <[bjoern]> Shaft.
00:16:03 <cre8radix> lol
00:16:14 * cre8radix bounces
00:16:29 * cre8radix hi5s [bjoern]
00:16:58 <cre8radix> hoermann shaft alda
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00:18:25 <cre8radix> *waving*
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00:21:45 <cre8radix> oh yeah... http://blog.zdf.de/3sat.neues/2009/04/netzgefluster-vom-230409.html
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00:22:15 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell bsh http://blog.zdf.de/3sat.neues/2009/04/netzgefluster-vom-230409.html
00:22:15 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when bsh is around.
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01:00:48 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xoxo
01:00:49 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
01:03:02 <deltab> ‹Hixie› jgraham: it would be possible to come up with an API that solved all problems without the author having to learn any new languages
01:03:02 <deltab> ‹Hixie› jgraham: window.doTheRightThing(freeformTextInAnyNaturalLanguage);
01:03:02 <deltab> ‹Hixie› it might require a lot of work from implementations
01:05:54 <deltab> phenny: "Man kann ja nicht von heute auf morgen nur noch Friede-Freude-Eierkuchen präsentieren"?
01:05:54 <Monty> pick a valid json stores unicode characters with early bird discount for cups of his favourite, George Villiersâ?
01:05:55 <phenny> deltab: "It can not happen just yet peace-joy-pancake present" (de to en, translate.google.com)
01:05:55 <Monty> oh.
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06:06:17 <Monty> yo jetscreamer!
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06:47:05 <Ficthe> could there be a reason that a phenny-based bot wouldn't join one particular chan?
06:47:23 <Ficthe> (no, not banned or anything like that in that particular chan)
06:47:40 <Ficthe> whops, all better now. thanks, and nevermind.
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07:46:21 <cre8radix> heya
07:48:09 <_ulises> yo
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09:12:42 <sbp> yo
09:12:43 <phenny> sbp: 01:00Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xoxo
09:12:44 <phenny> sbp: 01:45Z <nslater> tell sbp http://www.museumsyndicate.com/artist.php?artist=380
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09:14:58 <cre8radix> yoyo
09:15:10 <sbp> phenny: tell [bjoern] O is obviously the hug
09:15:11 <phenny> sbp: yeah, sure, whatever
09:15:14 <sbp> yo cre8radix
09:18:54 <sbp> .title http://weekendstubble.blogspot.com/2009/04/hottest-book-in-charing-cross.html
09:18:55 <phenny> sbp: Weekend Stubble: The Hottest Book in Charing Cross
09:22:49 <_ulises> sbp: sounds a bit like what we discussed for the decentralised library eh?
09:26:54 <sbp> a little, yeah
09:26:56 <sbp> chuckle:
09:26:58 <sbp> [[[
09:26:59 <sbp> Although the meeting will involve an exchange of gifts, the Vatican has denied Prince Charles will receive a memento of Henry VIII's divorce from Catherine of Aragon.
09:26:59 <sbp> It followed reports the pontiff was to give Charles a copy of the 1530 appeal by English peers for the annulment of Henry's marriage.
09:27:04 <sbp> ]]] - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8019885.stm
09:30:49 <cre8radix> oʞɐǝɹℲ ɐʎǝH
09:31:00 <cre8radix> http://kopfstehend.de/
09:31:05 <cre8radix> .title
09:31:06 <phenny> cre8radix: kopfstehend.de - einen Text drehen oder spiegeln mit Hilfe von Unicode Unicode
09:31:27 <sbp> .o flip this
09:31:27 <phenny> sıɥʇ
09:31:37 <cre8radix> O_O
09:31:54 <cre8radix> flip that
09:32:00 <cre8radix> rip that
09:32:16 * cre8radix wanna!
09:32:21 <cre8radix> wanna wanna
09:32:26 <cre8radix> gimme gimme
09:32:29 <cre8radix> :)
09:32:55 <_ulises> .o flip flop
09:32:55 <phenny> do❘ɟ
09:33:09 <cre8radix> :D
09:33:10 <sbp> ❘ is a stupid choice for upside-down l
09:33:13 <sbp> .u ❘
09:33:13 <phenny> U+2758 LIGHT VERTICAL BAR (❘)
09:33:19 * _ulises agrees wholeheartedly
09:33:32 <_ulises> the integral symbol was sooooooooooo much better
09:33:43 <_ulises> mainly 'cause I then could do
09:34:01 <sbp> even pipe would be better: do|ɟ
09:34:07 <_ulises> .o flip l x px
09:34:08 <phenny> xd x ❘
09:34:11 <_ulises> meh
09:34:24 <_ulises> .o flip xp x l
09:34:24 <phenny> ❘ x dx
09:34:29 <_ulises> and then it'd look ok
09:34:35 <cre8radix> .o flip live
09:34:35 <_ulises> now it looks like poop
09:34:36 <phenny> ǝʌı❘
09:34:50 <_ulises> .o flip xp x i
09:34:51 <phenny> ı x dx
09:34:54 <_ulises> nope
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09:34:57 <_ulises> fial
09:35:00 <sbp> .o flip jeffarch
09:35:00 <phenny> ɥɔɹɐɟɟǝɾ
09:35:24 <_ulises> plus this version of flip is like flipx + flipy
09:35:43 <_ulises> or flipy + reverse
09:36:16 <cre8radix> heh
09:36:30 <_ulises> .o flip fɟ
09:36:31 <phenny> fɟ
09:36:50 <_ulises> .o flip œ
09:36:51 <phenny> œ
09:36:54 <_ulises> boo
09:37:02 <sbp> .o flip æ
09:37:02 <_ulises> .o flip ñ
09:37:03 <phenny> æ
09:37:04 <phenny> ñ
09:37:05 <cre8radix> :)
09:37:10 <_ulises> boo! boo!
09:37:12 <_ulises> fial fial!
09:37:35 <cre8radix> all di massive are fial
09:37:44 <_ulises> full of!
09:37:59 <cre8radix> them na gwan
09:38:06 <cre8radix> demma stanstill
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10:22:19 <sbp> .title http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uua1lvPnn
10:22:21 <phenny> sbp: Oh No I Grew Pubics
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10:42:40 <danja> someone tell me a joke. this airport is grim
10:43:15 <sbp> danja:
10:43:22 <sbp> [[[
10:43:23 <sbp> Thomas Windebank, son of Francis Windebank, the king’s Secretary of State, carried his own frustrations to an explosive extent. The only thing that kept out the cold and the wet, he wrote,
10:43:23 <sbp> …was the hope of; Rubbing, fubbing and scrubbing those scurvy, filthy, dirty, nasty, lousy, itchy, scabby, shitten, stinking, slovenly, snotty-nosed, logger-headed, foolish, insolent, proud, beggarly, impertinent, absurd, grout-headed, villainous, barbarous, bestial, false, lying, rougish, devlish, long-eared, short-haired, damnable, atheistic, puritanical crew of the Scottish Covenant.
10:43:29 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bishops%27_War#First_Bishops.E2.80.99_War_.281639.29
10:44:19 <danja> cheers sbp
10:44:26 <sbp> :-)
10:44:30 * danja looks forward to pig fever
10:44:38 <sbp> are you going to Mexico?
10:44:45 <danja> no, Germany :)
10:44:53 <sbp> ah. no cases in Germany yet
10:44:59 <sbp> some in Scotland and France (maybe)
10:45:18 <danja> bloody miracle they don't have plague via pisa airport
10:45:35 <sbp> who? Germany?
10:45:43 <sbp> do Mexicans go to Germany a lot via Pisa then?
10:45:44 <danja> nah, just peasants
10:45:46 <sbp> ah
10:45:47 <_ulises> just don't sneeze and wash your hands constantly ... oh, and don't go places
10:45:51 <_ulises> you should be fine then
10:46:01 <sbp> and sip tamiflu
10:46:11 * danja flying to Brussels - sprout flu?
10:46:14 <sbp> hehe
10:46:15 <Monty> .u 易
10:46:15 <phenny> U+6613 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6613 (易)
10:46:21 <sbp> bad Monty
10:46:23 <Monty> dental discount!
10:46:27 <sbp> good Monty
10:46:29 <Monty> I reckon Mozart + Mozart = Bungle >:)
10:46:35 <sbp> ...
10:46:41 <danja> .wik mozart k522
10:46:43 <phenny> "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was prolific and wrote in many genres." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart
10:46:56 <danja> .wik mozart joke
10:46:58 <phenny> "A Musical Joke (in German: Ein Musikalischer Spaß) K. 522, (Divertimento for two horns and single strings) is a composition by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; the composer entered it in his Verzeichnis aller meiner Werke ('Catalogue of all my Works') on June 14, 1787." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Musical_Joke
10:47:24 <danja> I didn't laugh - it's Horse of the Year tune
10:47:27 <sbp> [ ]
10:47:30 <sbp> — space for a joke
10:47:46 <danja> # joke
10:48:08 <danja> queue might be moving - laters
10:48:11 <sbp> c'ya
10:48:15 <_ulises> .title http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uuabFd1mV
10:48:16 <sbp> say hi to Brussels for us
10:48:17 <phenny> _ulises: That's how the Internet works
10:48:17 <Monty> Can't find any kind smoother
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10:49:02 <Monty> bah, it's [bjoern] again
10:49:23 <sbp> _ulises: http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uua4KC1kH
10:49:54 <_ulises> hehehe
10:49:56 <danja> no movement, was just the .it folks clustering
10:50:11 <_ulises> and yelling and waving their hands I presume?
10:50:18 <sbp> [bjoern]: http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uuafQ0gh0
10:50:21 <danja> hh, yup
10:50:59 <danja> oh bum, laptop nosediving now
10:51:06 <sbp> snose
10:51:14 <_ulises> snooze
10:51:28 <danja> snrz
10:52:03 <danja> .reallysmallstring sleepy-bo-bos
10:52:37 <danja> actually the .its are all calm - bit disturbing really
10:52:58 <_ulises> sbp: http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uua6cxDRP
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11:08:25 <sbp> hehe
11:08:47 <[bjoern]> behave while I return.
11:08:47 <phenny> [bjoern]: 09:15Z <sbp> tell [bjoern] O is obviously the hug
11:09:09 <sbp> obviously
11:09:22 <_ulises> clearly
11:09:29 <_ulises> self-evident
11:09:37 <_ulises> unquestionable
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11:43:49 <[bjoern]> yo
11:44:43 <[bjoern]> Well considering "The Shawks Inc. encyclopedia, an authority in urban lingo, has it that the 'O' represents a hug"
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12:07:35 <[bjoern]> technicolored xkcd.
12:08:43 <sbp> note that he mentions Madagascar
12:08:53 <sbp> gotta be related to that Pandemic flash game?
12:08:53 <[bjoern]> Yes I noted.
12:09:06 * [bjoern] recalls vaguely
12:09:57 <[bjoern]> remind me in 170 minutes to ---- !!! ----
12:09:58 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon Apr 27 15:58:14 BST 2009
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12:18:22 <sbp> Monty: remind me in 10 minutes to -- ** !!! ** --
12:18:23 <Monty> sbp: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon Apr 27 13:26:39 BST 2009
12:25:04 <Charl> Monty: remind me in 40341132 minutes to die
12:25:04 <Monty> Charl: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Tue Jan 08 04:35:20 GMT 2086
12:26:37 <Charl> Doubt I'll see the 22nd century. Aubrey de Grey seems a bit too optimistic.
12:28:38 <Monty> sbp: You asked me to remind you to -- ** !!! ** --
12:31:48 <clsn> sbp: I assumed it was a Pandemic reference. Certainly the news sounds a lot like Pandemic lines.
12:31:48 <phenny> clsn: 25 Apr 11:05Z <sbp> tell clsn Mae'r Te yn Bwrw'i Ffrwyth
12:31:49 <phenny> clsn: 25 Apr 11:05Z <sbp> tell clsn (Welsh Idiom of the Day)
12:32:17 <clsn> The tea is throwing...?
12:32:27 <clsn> (as in bwrw glaw)
12:32:51 <sbp> yeah, something like shedding fruit, raining fruit
12:32:54 <kpreid> clsn: bear glue?
12:33:02 <sbp> the idiom being, brewing
12:33:13 <clsn> Oookay. Bearing fruit maybe?
12:33:42 <clsn> Bearing ITS fruit...
12:33:50 <sbp> “the tea is shedding its fruit”
12:34:25 <sbp> what's the ' for in bwrw'i?
12:34:37 <sbp> what's the *i word?
12:34:47 <clsn> I'm guessing "bwrw ei", the "ei" being the possessive.
12:35:00 <sbp> ooh, right
12:35:08 <sbp> thanks!
12:35:40 <sbp> is'the tea -ing shed'its fruit
12:36:32 <clsn> So, brought home several cubic meters of long-sequestered boxes of Shtuff from storage unit yesterday. Peeked into a box, found (a) a copy of Fox-Davies' _Complete Guide to Heraldry_ that I got from my in-laws' house, and (b) a grammar of Talmudic Aramaic. Nice.
12:36:45 <sbp> hehe
12:36:57 <sbp> troving for the win
12:37:17 <clsn> Natch, there's lots more there.
12:37:26 <clsn> Just thought you'd want to know about those.
12:37:32 <sbp> ayup
12:38:35 <clsn> Along the lines of Essentialist Definitions, I find that Aramaic tends to sound to me like really informal Hebrew.
12:38:43 <clsn> .g essentialist definitions
12:38:44 <phenny> clsn: http://www.answers.com/topic/essentialism
12:38:49 <clsn> No that wasn't it///
12:38:54 <clsn> .g essentialist explanations
12:38:55 <phenny> clsn: http://www.ccil.org/~cowan/essential.html
12:38:58 <clsn> That was it.
12:39:11 * sbp is quoted therein
12:39:47 <sbp> .wik Astrotalk
12:39:49 <phenny> "Template" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Astro_talk
12:39:54 <sbp> hehe, what's Astrotalk?
12:40:56 <sbp> you should submit the Aramaic one
12:43:38 <sbp> .cy rhoi
12:43:40 <phenny> rhoi, vb CONJUGATE apply, put, give, impart, pop in (BBC)
12:43:42 <phenny> rhoi to give v. rhodd-/rhoi-/rh to put v. rhodd-/rhoi-/rh to donate v. rhodd-/rhoi-/rh to hand in v. (Geiriadur)
12:44:54 <clsn> I should.
12:44:59 <clsn> Oh I forgot we had .cy
12:45:04 <clsn> .cy ffrwyth
12:45:06 <phenny> ffrwyth, nm (ffrwythau,ffrwythydd) Example example_sentence=Mae'r meddyg yn argymell bwyta chwe ffrwyth bob dydd i gadw'n iach. fruit (BBC)
12:45:08 <phenny> ffrwyth fruit n.m. (ffrwythau/ffrwythydd) vigor n.m. (ffrwythau/ffrwythydd) vigour n.m. (ffrwythau/ffrwythydd) effect n.m. (ffrwythau/ffrwythydd) (Geiriadur)
12:45:11 <clsn> I was pretty sure it meant fruit.
12:45:27 <sbp> fffreeeeeefth
12:46:00 <clsn> .wik akanie
12:46:01 <phenny> "Vowel reduction in Russian differs in the standard language and in dialects." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akanie
12:46:06 <sbp> good way to distinguish between th and dd in English orthography, that
12:46:09 <sbp> fth and vth
12:46:43 <clsn> I'm not following, sbp. This supposed to be a mnemonic for something we already know?
12:47:22 <sbp> presumably people who are reading along in the logs or whatnot wouldn't know how ffrwyth is pronounced, so I thought I'd shout it out for the luls of it
12:47:38 <sbp> and as I was doing it I naturally devised fth/vth to cope for that distinction
12:47:43 <sbp> not something I've done or seen before
12:47:59 <sbp> it had been kinda bugging me, I guess
12:48:36 <sbp> today's idiom is rhoi'r ffidil yn y to, by the way
12:48:48 <sbp> ffrom http://www.learnons4c.co.uk/idioms.php
12:49:27 <clsn> Ah, kay.
12:49:37 <clsn> Put the fiddle on the roof.
12:49:41 <clsn> There's a play about that.
12:49:48 <clsn> But it's joosh, not welsh.
12:49:49 <sbp> in the attic, they say
12:49:54 <sbp> heh, heh
12:50:04 <clsn> What is the idiom?
12:50:07 <sbp> yn y to is in the roof, I suppose
12:50:12 <sbp> put the violin in the attic
12:50:15 <spb> 94
12:50:22 <sbp> “To give something up. From the time when musical instruments were frowned on by the chapel and people were urged to put them out of reach.”
12:50:30 <clsn> Ah.
12:51:06 <sbp> (the chapel frowned on musical instruments? were they mad?)
12:51:20 <Talliesin> I am playing with the format of twitter.
12:51:29 <sbp> beth?
12:51:45 <Talliesin> http://twitter.com/5SecondTheatre is all lies, or as it used to be called in the old days before reality-mania, "fiction".
12:51:54 <sbp> ehheh
12:52:03 <Talliesin> It's interesting to try to fit stuff in the format.
12:52:15 <Talliesin> Though brevity makes me more cynical than otherwise I think.
12:52:28 <Talliesin> Still, I am writing fiction for the first time in years, so that's something.
12:54:08 <sbp> I like your about blurb
12:54:21 <Talliesin> Thanks.
12:54:54 <Talliesin> (though I know you're just a sucker for long-S and words like "divers" and "physic")
12:54:58 <Talliesin> :)
12:55:33 <Talliesin> My first one was the same with a bit more contraction.
12:56:09 <clsn> Yeah, I'm a sucker for long-s too. Though note I didn't write ſucker for ſome reaſon.
12:56:43 <sbp> well, yes. but I like the idea too
12:56:48 <clsn> For some strange reason my system has taken to making ligatures out of fi and fl and even st in monospace. With the little curlicue on top.
12:57:37 <Talliesin> clsn: Your main font doesn't have it and it finds it in a monospace font perhaps?
12:58:12 <Talliesin> I like the curlicue on st. I think my blurb looks better on my partners machine gets it than my own, even if the font-change jars.
12:59:02 <Talliesin> The 50Hz one is my own favourite so far.
13:00:14 <clsn> Nono, I mean in all-monospace contexts, for some reason it is deciding to honor whatever table it is that makes s+t into {st}. It looks kinda strange.
13:00:28 <sbp> moles and gophers is quite good
13:00:30 <Talliesin> That is strange.
13:00:45 * clsn has some things to add to the essentialist explanations on writing systems too...
13:01:01 <clsn> What 50Hz?
13:01:03 <Talliesin> Really, those characters shouldn't be used at all and are just for ligatures, but the glyphs should be.
13:01:11 <clsn> Yeah, yeah, I know.
13:01:15 <sbp> clsn: http://twitter.com/5SecondTheatre/status/1613273307
13:01:16 <clsn> Not caring though. :)
13:01:41 <clsn> Oof. It's too sharp here in the USA. We have 60Hz hum here.
13:02:05 <clsn> (hmm... "threatment"... Useful portmanteau.)
13:02:27 <sbp> Hanna channalling Joyce, there
13:02:59 <Talliesin> I actually tried to make use of there being 60Hz in some places, but luckily I defeated my inner pedant and didn't.
13:03:23 <Talliesin> But with threatment, sometimes a typo is just a typo.
13:05:09 <clsn> Having made the painful transition to a desktop environment that is in current use in this century, my keyboard is still one of the casualties. I have managed to retain my oddball mappings, but my compose map now only works in SOME windows, and this one isn't one of them. :(
13:05:34 <sbp> progress!
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13:06:26 <clsn> I can't seem to get GNOME to let the fuck go of the compose table. Disabling input methods screws everything up. Using ones that are supposed to be good for this doesn't completely work.
13:15:17 <clsn> The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
13:15:18 <clsn> English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words;
13:15:18 <clsn> on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
13:15:18 <clsn> them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
13:15:18 <clsn> --James D. Nicoll
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13:18:02 <sbp> why is it that nobody teaches language properly?
13:18:20 <sbp> really annoys me
13:18:28 <clsn> Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
13:18:33 <clsn> .g "Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?"
13:18:34 <phenny> clsn: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/myfairlady/whycanttheenglish.htm
13:19:04 <sbp> “Heaven's! What a noise!”
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13:20:46 <sbp> no basics of grammar, please. no grammar at all. don't explain things... don't explain anything. why do you need to base things in translation? you don't learn a langauge by translating one you already knew. and start with bright shiny things and lots of simple nouns! bugger the fucking modal verbs and billion forms of pronoun, just slot them in without explaining them
13:21:55 <sbp> you want to be saying: the duck is funny. Jason saw a submarine. her house is warm. who let the dogs out? green is the Queen's favourite colour
13:22:52 <sbp> I don't buy the learn utilitarian colloquialisms argument. don't really want to learn first of all how to order a plate of chips and ask what time the next train is to Swansea
13:23:20 <clsn> It was great studying Sanskrit, when early sentences we learned meant things like "Rama and Lakshmana go to the forest and kill demons" instead of "Janet goes to the store. She buys milk."
13:23:25 <sbp> and everything should be big and bold and stuff
13:23:58 <sbp> chuckle
13:24:18 <clsn> "kill" was one of the earlier verbs we learned. Yes!
13:24:26 <clsn> (and it's irregular, to boot.)
13:25:10 <sbp> the word "verb" would have to be banned in language acquisition, of course
13:26:09 <clsn> verb this, muthafucka.
13:26:19 <sbp> and I'd be quite happy with mae Janet yn mynd i'r siop, anyway
13:26:33 <sbp> the siop is often more exciting and scary than the forest
13:26:52 <sbp> more demons in it, too
13:26:56 <clsn> The "Teach Yourself Welsh" book I used was very good too. I was impressed that at the end of the FIRST CHAPTER I was reading a non-trivial (if simply-worded) story.
13:27:06 <sbp> oh? what's that one?
13:27:18 <clsn> Um... "Teach Yourself Living Welsh" I think.
13:27:33 <sbp> .g Teach Yourself Living Welsh site:amazon.co.uk
13:27:33 <phenny> sbp: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Welsh-Teach-Yourself-T-J-Rhys/dp/0340218460
13:27:47 <sbp> that one?
13:27:55 <clsn> I think so; author's name sounds right.
13:28:29 <clsn> It's a little oversimplified, but you NEED that for Welsh! Last thing you want to hear is "well, actually, there are 47 different regional conjugations for "bod"..."
13:28:40 <clsn> And he actually does get into that later.
13:30:29 <sbp> .gcs "yr un yna" "un yna"
13:30:31 <phenny> "un yna" (71), "yr un yna" (9)
13:30:40 <clsn> Yes, "Rwdw i / Rwyt ti / Mae e / Rydyn ni / Rydych chi / Maen nhw" is kind of fictional. But it's a very convenient and useful fiction.
13:30:46 <sbp> yeah, bod conjugations are scary
13:31:19 <clsn> But on the flip side, you don't actually have to get them right. Anything in vaguely the same ballpark and people will figure it's some regionalism or another.
13:31:32 <sbp> hehe, good point...
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13:31:58 <sbp> plus they're all getting shorter anyway
13:32:27 <sbp> .gcs "rwdw i'n mynd" "dw i'n mynd"
13:32:28 <phenny> "dw i'n mynd" (511), "rwdw i'n mynd" (0)
13:32:33 <sbp> .gcs "rydw i'n mynd" "dw i'n mynd"
13:32:34 <phenny> "dw i'n mynd" (511), "rydw i'n mynd" (199)
13:32:43 <clsn> And it's surprisingly non-horrifying to deal with. I found it pretty easy to handle reading someone online who was much more fluent than I and in a different dialect. You learn to backform quickly.
13:32:48 <clsn> .gc "rwy'n mynd"
13:32:49 <phenny> "rwy'n mynd": 241
13:33:05 <clsn> Ugh, I said "rwdw" above? wtf was I thinking?
13:33:13 <sbp> soon it'll just be 'nmynd
13:33:28 <clsn> .gc "w i'n mynd"
13:33:29 <phenny> "w i'n mynd": 1
13:33:33 <sbp> hehe
13:33:44 <sbp> .gc "dwi'n mynd"
13:33:45 <clsn> I think you can find "w" occasionally...
13:33:45 <phenny> "dwi'n mynd": 723
13:33:54 <sbp> wow, more than dw i'n
13:33:57 <sbp> .gc +"dwi'n mynd"
13:33:58 <phenny> +"dwi'n mynd": 727
13:34:01 <sbp> hmm
13:34:55 <clsn> I find the reverse-synonyms nawr/rŵan amusing. :09
13:35:29 <sbp> .cy rŵan
13:35:31 <phenny> No result. (BBC)
13:35:31 <phenny> rŵan now adv. (Geiriadur)
13:35:38 <sbp> reverse-synonyms?
13:35:52 <sbp> oh, gotcha
13:35:58 <clsn> nawr and rŵan both mean the same thing. But they're reverse spellings of each other.
13:36:07 <clsn> They're both contractions of "yn yr awr hon" iirc.
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14:04:49 <Monty> But what does Adminirator__ have to do with the price of fish?
14:05:52 <Adminirator__> Umschlagen von sozialen Unruhen in eine politische Willensbildung ist genau das, was die Politiker der etablierten Parteien in Berlin in diesen Tagen befürchten.
14:13:36 <Adminirator__> wiki.piratenpartei.de verwendet ein ungültiges Sicherheitszertifikat.
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15:00:09 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to ---- !!! ----
15:00:20 <[bjoern]> right
15:07:52 <sbp> did we just get Deutschespamm?
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15:13:11 <cre8radix> :D
15:13:38 <cre8radix> zeitgeist, autobahn, kindergarten
15:13:55 <cre8radix> bauhaus
15:14:05 * cre8radix waves good bye
15:14:20 * cre8radix goes to record some vocals...
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15:23:13 <Monty> yo Adminirator__!
15:23:34 <Adminirator__> lol
15:23:34 <sbp> Adminirator__: gutentag!
15:23:50 <Adminirator__> moin
15:24:03 <sbp> essen sie schokolade fäzes?
15:24:20 <Adminirator__> dank
15:24:43 <Adminirator__> Inländerdiskriminierung ist freilich europarechtlich zulässig.
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15:25:04 <Adminirator__> ☺
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15:29:54 <sbp> pfft, didn't even answer the question
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15:49:46 <nsh> ok, this is actually cool: http://blog.wolfram.com/2009/04/24/droste-effect-with-mathematica/
15:49:46 <phenny> nsh: 26 Apr 12:52Z <nslater> tell nsh i have to be logged in to view that file, can you put up somewhere else?
15:49:57 <nsh> yeah yeah, will do
15:50:05 <nslater> thanks
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16:39:46 <Monty> hey cre8radix
16:46:33 <cre8radix> heya monty, ye olde screwdriver
16:46:41 <Monty> "fist of saying, "you are scary than I need some lexentropy there to explain when early strips; reading a file as it at some of departments and rode up to it?
16:47:26 <cre8radix> nice topic, monty, don'tcha think?
16:47:27 <Monty> salt screws glibc >:)
16:47:38 <cre8radix> >:) monty!
16:47:41 <Monty> benoitc: there's a place online now adv. (Geiriadur)
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17:25:37 <kpreid> hm, is there some kind of internet trouble?
17:26:13 <[bjoern]> you found out about twitter?
17:26:22 <[bjoern]> http://www.internethealthreport.com/ suggests not so much
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20:48:46 <Monty> hi xjrn, how ya doing?
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21:16:23 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp I was quite serious about the tds last week, I hope you don't forget when bored.
21:16:23 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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22:29:47 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp Expect to come across Unicorn porn soon.
22:29:47 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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23:37:20 <nsh> [[[
23:37:21 <nsh> JERUSALEM (AP) The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday.
23:37:21 <nsh> Deputy Health Minister Yakov Litzman said the reference to pigs is offensive to both religions and "we should call this Mexican flu and not swine flu," he told a news conference at a hospital in central Israel.
23:37:35 <nsh> ]]] -- http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ieHZRubAS3lyjn2GBiCPkXkHrXwwD97QROAG0
23:37:44 <nsh> srsly...
23:38:34 <nsh> do you not ever feel just a little bit stupid-by-proxy clsn?
23:40:28 <clsn> Occasionally. That one qualifies. You can't EAT pork, it doesn't mean you can't TALK about it or THINK about it fercrineoutloud.
23:41:15 <nsh> as long as you're not offended by my having choxelled at this comment from the reddit thread: "They did say on the news this morning that it could be spread by handling money..."
23:41:16 <nsh> :-)
23:41:24 <clsn> Do we rename a charley horse muscle ailment because horses aren't kosher?
23:41:42 <clsn> OK, that's a choxelle.
23:42:08 <nsh> what's a charley horse muscle?
23:42:12 <nsh> .wik charley horse muscle
23:42:13 <phenny> "A charley horse is a popular North American colloquial term for a painful bruise of the quadriceps muscle of the anterior or lateral thigh that commonly results in a muscular hematoma and sometimes several weeks of pain and disability." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_horse
23:42:21 <nsh> ow
23:42:29 <nsh> i had that
23:42:33 <clsn> Yeah, it hurts. And horses aren't kosher.
23:42:47 <clsn> And don't even start on hoarse throats. Unless you're writing it. Cuz then it's okay.
23:42:58 <nsh> but are horses nonkosher to the same extent as pigs?
23:43:20 <nsh> i mean, horses are pretty fucking awesome for multiple noneating purposes
23:43:29 <nsh> whereas pigs are just kinda funny and hella tasty
23:43:43 <nsh> and useful for disposing of dead bodies
23:43:50 <clsn> Sure. How non-kosher can you get? Pigs have split hooves but don't chew their cud. Horses do NEITHER. Pigs *are* mentioned specifically in the bible, but that's *because* they have one and not the other.
23:44:09 <clsn> Camels are also mentioned... is "camel toe" offensive?? OK, it is. but not for that reason.
23:44:17 * nsh smiles
23:44:32 <clsn> having a frog in one's throat? Even worse.
23:45:11 * nsh muses on the great abrahamic seldon plan more
23:45:36 <nsh> someone had to have an idea that all these crazy restrictions would bootstrap particular neural capabilities
23:45:46 <nsh> leading to eventual world domination
23:46:35 * nsh wonders what the protocol is for bringing this up with People In The Know
23:46:39 <nsh> ;-)
23:46:50 <nsh> alright, won't quit my day job
23:47:08 <nsh> although
23:47:44 <nsh> i wonder if you could map different branches of mathematical learning onto rabbinical law
23:47:50 <nsh> as a mnenomic device
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23:53:26 <clsn> (sry, back now)
23:54:11 <clsn> Well, there's the famous "Ashkenazic IQ" thingy.
23:58:28 <nsh> go on
23:58:53 <clsn> Oh, you never heard that one?
23:59:06 <clsn> totally fucking necessary font: http://www.dafont.com/lines.font
23:59:13 <clsn> .g ashkenazic IQ
23:59:14 <phenny> clsn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence
23:59:21 <clsn> .wiki ashkenazi intelligence
23:59:29 <clsn> .wik ashkenazi intelligence
23:59:29 <phenny> "Ashkenazi intelligence is a controversial theory that the higher general intelligence of Ashkenazi Jews results from natural selection to extended historical persecution in Europe." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence