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00:11:36 <Monty2> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !!
00:12:08 <[bjoern]> Already on it my dear Monty.
00:12:11 <Monty2> Adam Reiniger is staggering and docile?!
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00:19:36 <Monty2> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
00:20:03 <[bjoern]> Soonishly there well be antistarvation Monty.
00:20:05 <Monty2> hello | CData | ... *)
00:20:17 <[bjoern]> iu2 Monty.
00:20:19 <Monty2> good is true?
00:20:37 <[bjoern]> Whenever that's comforting, yes, Monty.
00:20:40 <Monty2> that's the others have one sec - ReadWriteWeb
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07:47:42 <cre8radix> heya
07:48:14 * cre8radix get's a toke of The_Pot
07:56:22 <_ulises> yo
07:56:30 <cre8radix> yoyo
07:58:05 <_ulises> whatuppls
07:58:41 <cre8radix> lookin for a job
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07:59:14 <_ulises> anything in mind?
08:00:04 <cre8radix> .leo synchronsprechen
08:00:06 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=synchronsprechen
08:00:09 <cre8radix> .leo synchronsprecher
08:00:10 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=synchronsprecher
08:00:15 <cre8radix> .leo synchron
08:00:16 <phenny> synchron = synchronal a., synchronic a. (ling.), synchronous a., synchronously adv.
08:00:17 <phenny> quadrature-axis synchronous reactance (elec.) = die Synchron-Querreaktanz
08:00:18 <phenny> synchronous system (tech.) = das Synchron-System
08:00:19 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=synchron
08:00:25 <cre8radix> .leo sprecher
08:00:26 <phenny> caller (telecom.) = der Sprecher
08:00:27 <phenny> enunciator = der Sprecher
08:00:28 <phenny> narrator (telecom.) = der Sprecher - Rundfunk, Fernsehen
08:00:29 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=sprecher
08:00:35 <cre8radix> maybe radio
08:01:21 * _ulises does not follow :/
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08:07:55 <cre8radix> _ulises: maybe a job as radio dj
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08:08:03 <_ulises> oh!
08:08:13 <cre8radix> hopefully
08:08:15 <cre8radix> ;P
08:08:19 <_ulises> that'd be cool
08:08:27 <_ulises> is that what you used to do?
08:08:33 <_ulises> (or still do?)
08:08:41 <cre8radix> not for money so far
08:08:45 <cre8radix> but
08:09:14 <cre8radix> http://tribalradix.org/tribaldatatank/?p=40
08:09:32 <cre8radix> i'd love to get paid for that shnizzle
08:09:34 <cre8radix> :D
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08:10:12 <_ulises> shnizzle knizzle!
08:13:28 * _ulises is listening
08:14:22 <_ulises> "...baaaad people..."
08:25:22 <the_pot> :o
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08:34:39 <Monty2> welcome, the_pot
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08:40:51 <Guest24437> welcome, Monty2
08:40:51 <Monty2> ;P
08:40:52 <sbp> yo
08:40:52 <phenny> sbp: 03 May 21:43Z <Arnia> tell sbp about http://groups.google.com/group/open-nars/web/wang.AIKR.pdf?hl=en
08:40:54 <phenny> sbp: 00:32Z <Morbus> tell sbp http://pangya.ntreev.net/usermigration/UserTransfer.aspx?startup=0&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=640&width=636&modal=true&keyvalue=1
08:41:16 * [bjoern] 's trying to make a function that sums its three arguments. It's not possible!
08:45:16 <Guest24437> why not?
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08:45:32 <sbp> because there's no addition function
08:45:48 <Guest24437> what language?
08:45:48 <[bjoern]> Because the formalism I am required to use is fucked up
08:45:50 <[bjoern]> .wik Primitive recursive function
08:45:51 <phenny> "The primitive recursive functions are defined using primitive recursion and composition as central operations and are a strict subset of the recursive functions (recursive functions are also known as computable functions)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_recursive_function
08:45:55 <[bjoern]> that language.
08:46:45 <_ulises> you should use java
08:46:54 <_ulises> in java it's as simple as 1 + 2 + 3
08:46:56 <[bjoern]> You should shut up.
08:47:11 <_ulises> heh heh
08:51:51 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8032125.stm
08:51:53 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Politics | Harman: 'I don't want to be PM'
08:52:45 <[bjoern]> He should try a Shermanesque statement instead.
08:54:10 <[bjoern]> "Ms Harman made her point on the BBC by defacing a newspaper report"
08:57:05 <sbp> he who?
08:57:26 <sbp> Labour has been a kind of comedy troupe this week
08:57:41 <sbp> and oh dear, xkcd is planning to do a miniseries
08:57:43 <[bjoern]> HarMAN?
08:57:55 <sbp> what is it with xkcd's miniserieses? they're always terrible
08:58:05 <sbp> so Har means Not, presumably
08:58:11 <[bjoern]> They tend to have one good part, and the rest rubbish
08:58:17 <[bjoern]> That's a point.
08:58:35 <sbp> though I shouldn't say that
08:58:43 <sbp> because now you're going to use Har for Not in like three months' time
08:58:48 <sbp> and I'm going to have no idea what you're on about
08:58:56 <sbp> and you're going to be all winnerly
08:59:01 <[bjoern]> No
08:59:04 <sbp> heh
08:59:08 <[bjoern]> I would not wait three months.
08:59:17 <sbp> yeah, I was being very optimistic
09:00:32 <sbp> the Harman thing reminds me of Blair
09:00:45 <sbp> when he was asked whether he'd quit if he was voted in again
09:00:50 <sbp> and he said no, definitely not
09:00:54 <sbp> and then he was voted in again
09:00:55 <sbp> and quit
09:01:07 <sbp> they're very good at comedy, New Labour
09:01:40 <[bjoern]> The Queen should come to parliament and play whack-a-mole.
09:01:53 <sbp> eh, they tried that in the 17th century
09:01:58 <sbp> it... it didn't work out so well
09:03:17 <[bjoern]> But now we have tubes.
09:03:38 <sbp> will probably make it even worse
09:04:03 <sbp> "Harman: I'd fight for leadership" - Telegraph headline
09:04:10 <sbp> she came into the BBC News studios
09:04:17 <sbp> and inserted "not" between I'd and fight
09:04:17 <[bjoern]> And in the second age (beta) worse is better.
09:04:17 <sbp> hehe
09:06:25 <sbp> oh, I just connected that with what you quoted earlier
09:06:29 <sbp> funny, I thought it was a joke
09:07:10 <sbp> Harriet Harman: the Joke that Turned Out to be Real
09:07:36 <[bjoern]> Like twitter.
09:07:49 <sbp> yeah...
09:08:15 <sbp> technically though, if a Member of Parliament sees a newspaper counterlie headline, I think they should be allowed to deface it to comply with their lie instead
09:08:43 <sbp> hmm. unless their lie is a clever counter-counterlie
09:09:08 <sbp> in which case I suppose the newspaper should be allowed to deface them?
09:09:11 <sbp> I dunno, tricky
09:09:14 <[bjoern]> I find the lexical proximity of deface and defecate disturbing.
09:09:23 <sbp> they probably are cognate!
09:09:26 <sbp> .ety deface
09:09:27 <phenny> "c.1325, from O.Fr. defacier, from des- 'away from' + face 'face.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=deface
09:09:29 <sbp> .ety defecate
09:09:30 <phenny> "1575, 'to purify,' from L. defæcatus, pp. of defæcare 'cleanse from dregs, purify,' from the phrase de fæce 'from dregs,' pl. fæces 'feces.' Excretory sense first recorded 1830 (defecation), Amer.Eng., from Fr." - http://etymonline.com/?term=defecate
09:09:35 <sbp> nope. oh well
09:09:44 <sbp> English is disappointing sometimes
09:10:08 <[bjoern]> Call me when it's not.
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12:01:05 <[bjoern]> remind me in 160 minutes to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:01:05 <Monty2> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon May 04 15:41:21 BST 2009
12:03:26 <_ulises> .o flip stop using flip
12:03:26 <phenny> dı❘ɟ ƃuısn doʇs
12:03:46 <_ulises> remind me in 123 minutes to dı❘ɟ ƃuısn doʇs
12:03:46 <Monty2> _ulises: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon May 04 15:07:01 BST 2009
12:04:41 <[bjoern]> .o flip kram noitseuq tsrif ti esrever uoy fi neve
12:04:42 <phenny> ǝʌǝu ıɟ ʎon ɹǝʌǝɹsǝ ıʇ ɟıɹsʇ bnǝsʇıou ɯɐɹʞ
12:06:37 <[bjoern]> .o flip rehfnrz qbbt ebs 31gbe rzbf qqn
12:06:38 <phenny> ubb ɟqzɹ ǝqƃ1Ɛ sqǝ ʇqqb zɹuɟɥǝɹ
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12:24:25 <lisppaste2> [bjoern] pasted "sum3" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/79636
12:26:22 <sbp> succs
12:26:52 <[bjoern]> it quite does
12:27:16 <[bjoern]> would rather use LOOP programs, or foldr with lists, instead of n-ary functions...
12:30:09 <[bjoern]> Next up: figure out "2*n + 3", would ideally use sum3 I guess...
12:30:37 <[bjoern]> But then I am very much unsure how you'd express 2nplus3 as sum3(n,n,3) ...
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13:07:40 <[bjoern]> .c 5!
13:07:41 <phenny> 5 ! = 120
13:12:27 <[bjoern]> this is serious brainfuck
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13:12:34 <Monty2> hi MacTed
13:14:25 <sbp> [[[
13:14:25 <sbp> The zero meridian used by the Ordnance Survey (OSGB36 datum) is about six metres to the west of the Airy meridian marked at Greenwich. When the first Ordnance Survey map was published in 1801, the official Prime Meridian of Great Britain was the one established by the third Astronomer Royal, James Bradley. When Airy's new Prime Meridian superseded it fifty years later, the Ordnance Survey simply continued to use Bradley's.
13:14:38 <sbp> ]]] — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Meridian
13:15:03 <[bjoern]> .leo datum
13:15:04 <phenny> datum = die Bezugshöhe, der Messwert, gegebene Größe
13:15:05 <phenny> date = das Datum Pl.: die Daten
13:15:06 <phenny> calendar date = das Datum
13:15:07 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=datum
13:15:31 <[bjoern]> that is, too.
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13:47:30 <[bjoern]> "White House Joins Facebook, MySpace, Twitter"
13:58:56 <sbp> ...in Becoming a Useless Web 2.0 Site?
14:07:06 <Monty2> _ulises: You asked me to remind you to dıâ?É ƃuısn doʇs
14:41:06 <Monty2> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:43:12 <sbp> .thesaurus deceleration
14:43:14 <phenny> sbp: slowing down, slowing up, slowing, braking, checking, retardation
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14:44:38 <cre8radix> .w downlow
14:44:39 <phenny> Couldn't get any definitions for downlow.
14:44:50 <[bjoern]> so nobody ever uses .thesaurus, eh
14:44:52 <cre8radix> .wik on the dl
14:44:54 <phenny> "Keeping an act, action or some other piece of information a secret." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down-low
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14:48:56 <sbp> [bjoern]: wasn't me, it was cre8radix!
14:49:14 <sbp> but yes, I've probably used it more times than anybody else
14:49:17 <sbp> including YOU
14:49:29 <[bjoern]> cre8radix can go to my java haskell tutorial
14:49:37 <[bjoern]> and shop some food afterwards
14:49:45 <cre8radix> .thesaurus lamer
14:49:47 <phenny> cre8radix: No results found
14:49:49 <cre8radix> :D
14:49:52 <cre8radix> toldya
14:50:10 <cre8radix> .thesaurus moderate
14:50:11 <phenny> cre8radix: reasonable, modest, sensible, restrained, judicious, fair, temperate, enough, adequate, sufficient, relative, mild, rational, measured / average, medium, normal, balanced, middling, ordinary, adequate, modest
14:51:16 <[bjoern]> if not back in an hour, I'll either be boring myself to death, or fast asleep
14:51:58 <clsn> .ety outwith
14:51:58 <phenny> clsn: 01 May 09:11Z <sbp> tell clsn the two different glyphs for “y” in that book are insanely clever!
14:52:00 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "outwith". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=outwith
14:52:11 <clsn> .gc outwith
14:52:12 <phenny> outwith: 145,000
14:52:58 <sbp> clsn: you didn't tell me about the two different "y" glyphs!
14:53:05 <sbp> perhaps you were keeping them as a surprise for me
14:53:55 <clsn> y vs ɥ in Teach Yourself Welsh? Yeah, it's very nice. And they stop in later chapters, when you're supposed to have it worked out.
14:55:11 <sbp> oh, cool
14:56:44 <clsn> Got this book that tends to use "outwith" sometimes instead of "without"... wondering if that's prevelant.
14:57:00 <clsn> In senses like "These kinds of discussions are outwith the purview of this book..."
14:57:55 <sbp> .w outwith
14:57:55 <phenny> outwith — preposition: 1. (Scotland and Northern England; colloq.) Outside; beyond; outside of
14:58:43 <clsn> Huh. Sounded more just plain pretentious to me. But I think he's using it right, in that case, since it isn't being used just as an alternate form of without.
15:34:40 <Arnia> mm... http://www.mattmahoney.net/agi2.html
15:41:56 * clsn told Eliezer Yudkowski of the quote you mentioned at http://swhack.com/logs/2009-05-01#T01-22-33 Arnia. As well as I could remember it.
15:42:03 <clsn> I met him this weekend.
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16:51:26 <Monty2> howdy, kpreid
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17:10:05 <[bjoern]> Well
17:10:16 <[bjoern]> someone pushed the wrong buttons on their weather machine.
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17:36:27 <[bjoern]> In france someone got some SMS asking if he has an idea how to derail a train. His service provider apparently read his sms and informed the police, who then arrested and questioned the man for not reporting the sms immediately to the authorities.
17:37:39 <[bjoern]> (also, apparently, suspicion of being involved in terrorism, due to this)
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17:43:50 <jsled> awesome
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17:51:42 <[bjoern]> I can see some hackers wanting their money back for supposedly creepy "I read your mail" shirts.
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