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00:59:26 <cre8radix2> ë
01:00:30 <cre8radix2> loggy: uri
01:00:30 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2009-05-21#T01-00-30
01:01:50 <[bjoern]> Don't show off your ë, it's rude.
01:02:59 <cre8radix2> you're so accurate, [bjoern]...
01:03:01 <cre8radix2> thx
01:03:11 <cre8radix2> :)
01:03:14 <kpreid> but is he accute?
01:03:40 <cre8radix2> no...
01:03:56 <cre8radix2> rather coma tao'ze
01:04:12 <[bjoern]> Oh I wish, but I'm working on it.
01:04:15 <[bjoern]> Stösschen!
01:04:23 <cre8radix2> O_o
01:04:35 <cre8radix2> you drinkin?
01:04:48 <[bjoern]> Oh I wish!
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01:06:03 * cre8radix sends a wischmob over to [bjoern]
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01:51:33 <[bjoern]> Television would be so much different if it understood "bad idea"
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08:42:48 <sbp> yo
08:46:21 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8060681.stm
08:46:23 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | NZ hunts accidental millionaires
08:51:04 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8060082.stm
08:51:05 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | How to fit 300 DVDs on one disc
08:52:23 <sbp> oh man, quote of the week:
08:52:24 <sbp> "This is the closest you can get to the moon by walking."
08:52:24 <sbp> — Sir Ranulph Fiennes, on climbing Everest
08:57:06 <sbp> .leo wischmob
08:57:07 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=wischmob
08:57:28 <sbp> .leo stösschen
08:57:29 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=st%C3%B6sschen
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09:03:51 <sbp> .g why can't directories be hardlinked?
09:03:51 <phenny> sbp: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html
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09:10:28 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater in GNU Emacs 22.1.1 --version works but -V doesn't
09:10:28 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
09:17:31 <sbp> .u y with circum
09:17:31 <phenny> U+0177 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH CIRCUMFLEX (ŷ)
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09:58:35 <cre8radix> heya
10:00:25 <sbp> yo cre8radix
10:00:27 <sbp> what up?
10:00:47 <cre8radix> heya sbp
10:00:54 <cre8radix> lotsa re:hearsing
10:01:01 <cre8radix> for the show on friday
10:01:32 <cre8radix> playing on the inofficial bmx championship
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10:01:55 <cre8radix> gonna be nice to watch them bike...
10:02:15 <cre8radix> while i rock the mic
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10:02:49 <Monty2> yo libby_!
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10:24:44 <sbp> cre8radix: oh, cool
10:59:28 <sbp> this is pretty low on the making-sense meter:
10:59:30 <sbp> http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/quantize/#quantize_not_exact
10:59:42 <sbp> specifically this bit: “One way is to quantize the image as normal, but then and output the generated color map (using "-unique-colors". Now you can adjust that color map so your white is really white. You can now Map the new color map to your image.”
10:59:54 <sbp> the main problem, really, is how to adjust the colour map with ImageMagick
11:05:16 <sbp> hmm, http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/color/#replace
11:07:44 <sbp> $ mogrify -fuzz 10% -fill white -opaque white input
11:07:47 <sbp> seems to work
11:08:28 <sbp> ah, no, it unindexes it. heh
11:11:12 <sbp> ah, if you run mogrify after that, it works
11:11:14 <sbp> freaky
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11:35:08 <sbp> ah, excellent: the Gurkha settlement is going ahead
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11:59:38 <sbp> .title http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/appleaday/blog/2009/03/prediction_snow_leopard_releas.html
11:59:38 <phenny> sbp: Apple a Day: Prediction: Snow Leopard release date is June 8 - The Baltimore Sun's David Zeiler follows all developments related to Apple, Inc. - baltimoresun.com
12:05:24 <cre8radix> sbp: http://www.popsci.com/files/2zcg.gif
12:06:51 <sbp> cre8radix: awesome
12:15:58 <cre8radix> phenny: tell [bjoern] http://www.titanic-magazin.de/uploads/pics/0520-kinderschutz1.jpg
12:15:59 <phenny> cre8radix: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
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14:48:32 <Monty2> But what does jeffarch have to do with the price of fish?
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15:07:57 <[bjoern]> from the y to the o to the yo
15:07:58 <phenny> [bjoern]: 12:15Z <cre8radix> tell [bjoern] http://www.titanic-magazin.de/uploads/pics/0520-kinderschutz1.jpg
15:08:18 <[bjoern]> Yeah I saw that
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15:43:48 <jessica> Björn: Read this, was amused and wanted to share: "In East Germany, the totalitarianism was so total that everything that wasn't compulsory was forbidden."
15:44:49 <jessica> Moreover, "The demonstrations that wracked East Germany for months before the opening of the Wall all had one thing in common: they started after work. How the Communists managed to make a poor country out of a nation full of Germans was beyond me."
15:45:20 <jessica> "I attended one of these, and the students were demanding economics courses. It's hard to reconcile that with my own memory of student demonstrations. We were demanding free drugs for life."
15:45:24 <jessica> (done)
15:45:37 <jessica> (credit to P.J. O'Rourke's travelogues.)
15:45:37 <[bjoern]> hehe
15:46:21 <jessica> I'm still amazed at making a poor country out of Germans. Everything that isn't mandatory among my Schweigerfamilie, Danaubschwaben, *is* verboten.
15:49:21 <[bjoern]> Well the plan of all four powers was pretty much to loot all they can, and then turn germany into a farming nation. Surely there are good tutorials for doing so in medieval books.
15:53:37 <Arnia> Mm... techplunder
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16:10:52 <[bjoern]> "When you are moving, you can't wrap your dishes in a blog."
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16:13:43 <nsh> ATTEN--WHURP?
16:13:44 <phenny> nsh: 12:03Z <_ulises> tell nsh have you considered moblin for your eeepc?
16:14:22 <nsh> phenny, tell _ulises yeah, had a look at it last night too -- seems pretty cool. will maybe try the next img release
16:14:22 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when _ulises is around.
16:14:41 <nsh> phenny, tell _ulises probably needs more polish yet though
16:14:41 <phenny> nsh: I'll pass that on when _ulises is around.
16:14:55 <nsh> also, my eeepc is keyboardless still
16:14:57 <nsh> :-/
16:15:08 <nsh> jesus, that's a retarded-looking smiley, mibbit...
16:15:35 <nsh> anyway, on the plus side, the dude's i got the homebrew-looking mp3 player from said they'd replace it
16:15:47 <nsh> which is nice, because the device does look pretty fucking cool
16:15:54 <nsh> maybe even worth learning firmware hacking...
16:21:15 <[bjoern]> nsh, you have not brought nudes with you.
16:29:58 <nsh> actually, there are nudes interlaces between every pair of characters in my posts
16:30:00 <nsh> TRUFAX
16:30:40 <[bjoern]> No, they have a piece of clothing, it's smal, but it's there.
16:31:17 <nsh> true, but it's internally-applied
16:31:40 <nsh> it's called the Spleen Loincloth, latest thing in Milan
16:32:06 <[bjoern]> So they finally are closing down Milan.
16:33:23 <_ulises> nsh: I tried the latest img yesterday, it's looking good
16:33:23 <phenny> _ulises: 16:14Z <nsh> tell _ulises yeah, had a look at it last night too -- seems pretty cool. will maybe try the next img release
16:33:24 <phenny> _ulises: 16:14Z <nsh> tell _ulises probably needs more polish yet though
16:33:29 <_ulises> nsh: but yeah, still has a bit to go
16:38:14 <nsh> aye
16:43:48 <[bjoern]> sbp http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=228030&title=Scamalot
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16:59:42 <nsh> i lulz't
17:12:40 <Tene> nsh: pix of mp3 player?
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17:15:52 <nsh> one sec tene
17:16:51 <nsh> Tene: one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16GO-16GB-1-8-MP3-MP4-USB-4th-Gen-Lecteur-Player-M4k16_W0QQitemZ270391718181QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_LC_TV_Son_Home_Cinema_Aisle_Product_Domain?hash=item270391718181&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200
17:17:34 <nsh> the devices looks just like the pictures (ipod clone but four buttons rather than wheel and no brand, on-off latch at top)
17:18:06 <nsh> may have been able to get the right firmware flashed if i could figure out how to open the case and check the chipsets
17:18:16 <nsh> but it looked to be a close-once design case
17:19:49 <nsh> advertised features are accurate except the touchscreen aspect (as far as i could tell). did have FM/voice rec/video playback/telbook/picture display/16gb storage (or at least it formatted as such, didn't get a chance to check capacity before it died)
17:20:54 <nsh> software looked very unpolished and processing speed wasn't too snappy, but was still very impressed with what they'd managed to pack into the form factor
17:26:15 <Tene> Apparently we're going to be teaching some classes for the FBI.
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17:30:12 <nsh> Tene, interesting...
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17:30:18 <Tene> It's a "Linux for Unix Administrators" class.
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17:30:36 <Monty2> lo nsh
17:31:33 <Tene> It's a "Linux for Unix Administrators" class.
17:32:03 <[bjoern]> .gc "GNU/Unix"
17:32:04 <phenny> "GNU/Unix": 5,720
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17:33:07 <nsh> will there be any material online, Tene?
17:33:27 <Tene> hm?
17:33:28 <nsh> (e.g. do you record your lectures or make notes/slides available?)
17:34:51 <Tene> No, we don't. It's for work, and they try to keep pretty tight control over the courseware.
17:36:25 <nsh> right, makes sense
17:36:38 <nsh> (from their perspective, i imagine ;-)
17:36:52 * nsh wonders if you can turn emoticons off in mibbit
17:38:07 <Tene> I have a Parrot lecture I gave online.
17:38:47 <nsh> the perl vm?
17:38:56 <nsh> i'd like to watch that
17:39:20 <Tene> It was "Building a language with the parrot compiler tools".
17:39:25 <Tene> We walked through implementing scheme.
17:39:52 <Tene> http://opensourcetv.tv/video/15.html has flash, xvid, and theora
17:40:07 <nsh> thanks
17:40:14 <nsh> was it fun?
17:40:42 <Tene> It was a lot of fun. I wrote the lecture the night before, so it wasn't very rehearsed. :)
17:40:53 <nsh> sometimes works better that way
17:40:55 <deltab> nsh: try clicking on one
17:41:02 <deltab> an emoticon
17:41:17 <Tene> clsn went to a similar presentation I gave at Penguicon.
17:41:18 <nsh> ah, you can individually revert them
17:41:37 <Tene> Does this become an image: ☺ ?
17:41:53 <nsh> just unicode
17:42:00 <Tene> Feh.
17:42:04 <nsh> Penguicon sounds like an interesting convention
17:42:06 <deltab> http://blog.mibbit.com/?p=61
17:42:07 <nsh> <3
17:42:17 <nsh> ah, they don't do the facebook balls->heart conversion either
17:42:26 <nsh> taa, deltab
17:42:57 <Tene> A couple of things changed in Parrot since that presentation, like the weird $( something ) syntax changing to the more-sensible: something.ast
17:43:24 <clsn> Is ϖ more GREEK LETTER TITS or GREEK LETTER BALLS, you think?
17:43:40 <[bjoern]> Yes.
17:43:42 <nsh> buttocks through a letterbox imho
17:43:45 <jessica> What does Unicode say?
17:43:56 <[bjoern]> .u ϖ
17:43:57 <phenny> U+03D6 GREEK PI SYMBOL (ϖ)
17:44:00 <nsh> Tene, did you see the perl6 operator periodic table? i liked that
17:44:05 <Tene> nsh: yes
17:44:08 <[bjoern]> PIS is pretty suggestige.
17:44:12 <nsh> cool
17:44:28 <Tene> nsh: I wrote a blog post recently about defining custom ops in Perl 6... http://blogs.gurulabs.com/stephen/2009/05/new-toys-in-perl-6-custom-ops.html
17:44:36 <clsn> ⧞ is unicode letter DOLLY PARTON HIDING BEHIND A TREE.
17:44:41 <nsh> lol
17:45:08 <deltab> nsh: there's a pref for it, parseSmilies
17:45:27 <nsh> deltab: oh, nice
17:45:39 <[bjoern]> .u ἱ
17:45:39 <phenny> U+1F31 GREEK SMALL LETTER IOTA WITH DASIA (ἱ)
17:45:54 <nsh> .wik Rukado
17:45:56 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Rukado".
17:46:02 <nsh> .wik Rakudo
17:46:03 <phenny> "Rakudo Perl is an implementation of the Perl 6 specification for the Parrot virtual machine, currently in development." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakudo
17:46:06 <nsh> ah
17:46:17 * nsh is definitely going to get back into perl hacking
17:46:30 <[bjoern]> I've never typed random unicode before, but I like it 㘲Ł⌒鶮§ᝣቱ줖Ł㔧ﾏ㑟㻢ƽ⌛絹dž缆ग़け∥ᖳ
17:47:10 <[bjoern]> Even got a ⌛ in there.
17:47:46 <[bjoern]> .c ƽ*1
17:47:46 <phenny> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc6 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) (file "/Users/sbp/web/inamidst.com/www/phenny/tools.py", line 20, in new)
17:47:55 <[bjoern]> ustillbork
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17:49:18 <nsh> Tene, in that custom operator example, does $x equal 118 AND 122, or does it just return true for either?
17:49:28 <nsh> ( http://blogs.gurulabs.com/stephen/2009/05/new-toys-in-perl-6-custom-ops.html )
17:49:37 <Tene> nsh: it returns a junction.
17:49:52 <nsh> oh, this is probably something i should know about
17:50:11 <[bjoern]> .wik junction programming
17:50:13 <phenny> "Perl 6 is a planned major revision to the Perl programming language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_6
17:50:32 * nsh reads http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Perl_6_Programming/Junctions
17:50:55 <Tene> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_6#Junctions
17:50:57 <bancus> It's an array, basically, specifically tuned to being able to ask if it contains a particular element.
17:51:02 <bancus> Or if it completely matches another array.
17:51:18 <nsh> interesting
17:51:19 <bancus> Some of the uses are interesting, though.
17:51:27 <nsh> i can imagine
17:51:44 <bancus> In particular, that they can be used in declaring parameter types.
17:52:04 <nsh> can you elaborate?
17:52:08 <bancus> So "any of these:" or "something that is all of these:"
17:52:14 <bancus> that WP link has a few examples
17:52:17 <nsh> ah
17:52:17 <nsh> ok
17:52:20 <bancus> sub get_tint ( RGB_Color|CMYK_Color $color, num $opacity) { ... }
17:52:20 <bancus> sub store_record (Record&Storable $rec) { ... }
17:52:40 <nsh> cunning
17:52:51 <bancus> The first example to me just screams "Use a fucking superclass." however.
17:53:22 <nsh> ah, another concept i'm naive to
17:53:25 <bancus> Or multisub.
17:53:40 <nsh> .wik Superclass
17:53:40 <phenny> "The global ruling class created by globalization (also known as the 'transnational capitalist class')." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superclass
17:53:50 <nsh> .wik Superclass (computer science)
17:53:51 <phenny> "In computer science, a superclass is a class from which other classes are derived." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superclass_(computer_science)
17:53:54 <nsh> .wik Multisub
17:53:54 <bancus> Superclass, as in a class "Color" that is subclassed into RGB_Color and CMYK_Color
17:53:55 <phenny> "Human leukocyte Interferon-alpha (HuIFN-alpha-Le) Multiferon|TM| is a natural interferon-alpha (IFN-ɑ) which is obtained from the leukocyte fraction of human blood following induction with Sendai virus." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiferon
17:54:03 <nsh> bancus: i see
17:54:03 <Monty2> _ulises: hmm, you see the leukocyte Interferon-alpha (HuIFN-alpha-Le) Multiferon|TM| is pretty suggestige.
17:54:04 <bancus> .wik multisub perl
17:54:05 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "multisub perl".
17:54:28 <Tene> if any(@large_list) > 5 { ... } # checked in parallel
17:54:40 <bancus> Multisub is one subroutine name that has different implementations depending on the types/number of parameters it accepts.
17:55:05 * nsh n ods
17:55:10 <bancus> There are other names for it, I know.
17:55:17 <Tene> multi sub foo(String $a) { ... }; multi sub foo(Int $a) { ... };
17:55:21 <bancus> But Tene's infecting me with his Perl6 terminology.
17:55:28 <nsh> :-)
17:55:56 <bancus> Tene: I also added another multisub to terbri with a (_,I) signature for getting an index.
17:56:10 <bancus> So there's (_) for getting, (_,_) for setting, and (_,I)
17:56:23 <nsh> what does the underscore represent?
17:56:27 <bancus> Unsure if (_,_) and (_,I) clash, but I'd hope it's smart enough to figure that out.
17:56:30 <bancus> Wildcard.
17:56:38 <nsh> ah
17:57:05 <Tene> nsh: he's specifically talking about PIR multi methods... Parrot's assembly.
17:57:09 <Tene> Perl 6 doesn't use that.
17:57:20 <nsh> ok
17:57:42 <nsh> more on this later, i hope. skype calls
17:59:01 <Tene> Sure.
18:00:13 <[bjoern]> (_,_) - pressed against a solid flat transparent surface?
18:00:33 <bancus> With a little nugget hanging out.
18:00:35 <[bjoern]> well not necessarily transparent, but you'd hope so.
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18:22:54 <sbp> lisppaste2: url?
18:22:54 <lisppaste2> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/swhack and enter your paste.
18:23:08 <lisppaste2> sbp pasted ".emacs notes" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/80610
18:24:14 <[bjoern]> I'd annotate emacs removal instructions, but too much work for a bad joke.
18:25:57 <sbp> I suppose you're a Notepad user?
18:26:17 * sbp was just updating http://inamidst.com/config/emacs
18:26:28 <sbp> now in a relatively-crap-free flavour
18:26:53 <[bjoern]> code i tend to write in visual studio, text in my mail client. notepad for minor editing.
18:27:26 <[bjoern]> Often I mix all three.
18:28:04 <nsh> phenny, en fi "famine"?
18:28:05 <phenny> nsh: "nälänhätä" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
18:28:19 <sbp> I'm really like to be able to shorten my-move-line-up/down
18:28:24 <nsh> phenny, en fi "potato famine"?
18:28:24 <phenny> nsh: "peruna nälänhätä" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
18:31:23 <sbp> [bjoern]: did you see my freaky ImageMagick thing this morning?
18:31:38 <sbp> basic task: reduce colours in a PNG, and change from RGB to Indexed
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18:31:42 <Monty2> Thank goodness, Arnia is back!
18:31:52 <sbp> now, if you do -colors 80, it tends to turn white into off-white
18:32:07 <sbp> so what you have to do is do a replace colour thing, with a fuzzy match
18:32:16 <[bjoern]> I did not see your freaky anything.
18:32:17 <sbp> and then run -colors 80 again (and -depth 8)
18:32:21 <sbp> and then it works
18:32:34 <sbp> so, like this:
18:32:34 <sbp> mogrify -colors 80 -depth 8 $PNG
18:32:34 <sbp> mogrify -fuzz 10% -fill white -opaque white $PNG
18:32:34 <sbp> mogrify -colors 80 -depth 8 $PNG
18:32:58 <sbp> which is funny because the ImageMagick documentation itself says this is not possible
18:33:05 <[bjoern]> Is that when you actually have more than 256 colors?
18:33:19 <[bjoern]> Because otherwise one of the png compressors should do this automatically and properly.
18:33:28 <sbp> yeah
18:33:28 <[bjoern]> Forgot which one though
18:33:31 <sbp> well, actually more than 80
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18:34:19 <[bjoern]> I do that in a gui graphics app, with manual tweaking as required.
18:34:36 <[bjoern]> though generally I try to avoid color loss
18:34:38 <[bjoern]> It's wong
18:35:02 <sbp> it's okay in this context because the extra colours are basically coming from resizing
18:36:21 <jsled> .head http://data.gov/ Server
18:36:21 <phenny> Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
18:36:25 <[bjoern]> Just use GNU rwoci, it's the tool for the job
18:36:29 <[bjoern]> (resize without color increase)
18:37:01 <[bjoern]> IIS6 just had another data exposure bug based on accepting overlong utf-8...
18:37:47 <sbp> .g GNU rwoci
18:37:48 <phenny> sbp: http://vccmedia.com/approval/?p=6
18:38:02 <[bjoern]> fail
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18:46:54 <deltab> sbp: seen the duck house on Channel 4 News?
18:47:28 <sbp> nope?
18:47:36 <sbp> ducks!
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18:47:57 <sbp> Heytesbury Bird Pavilions
18:49:43 <sbp> “we consulted the experts and, guess what? foxes can swim”
18:50:09 <sbp> haha. “I don't wish to gain on somebody's misfortune or stupidity”
18:50:12 <sbp> brilliant, brilliant quote
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18:59:05 <[bjoern]> unsound business practise though.
18:59:15 <sbp> aye
19:02:13 <nsh> phenny, en fi "patient"?
19:02:13 <phenny> nsh: "Potilaan" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
19:02:32 <nsh> phenny, en fi "patience"?
19:02:32 <phenny> nsh: "kärsivällisyyttä" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
19:02:56 <[bjoern]> phenny, en fi "You are very patient?"
19:03:05 <[bjoern]> phenny, en fi "You are the doctor's patient"?
19:03:05 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Olet lääkärin potilas" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
19:03:08 <[bjoern]> phenny, en fi "You are very patient"?
19:03:08 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Olet hyvin kärsivällinen" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
19:05:11 <nsh> can't really blame googletrans for that one
19:05:39 <[bjoern]> Perhaps you can't.
19:08:23 <[bjoern]> .gc "∩∪"
19:08:23 <phenny> "∩∪": 0
19:19:43 <nsh> phenny, en fi "project"?
19:19:43 <phenny> nsh: "Hankkeen" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
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20:03:18 <sbp> .u circ kat tu
20:03:18 <phenny> U+32E1 CIRCLED KATAKANA TU (㋡)
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20:11:28 <Monty2> hi xcdfgkjhgcv
20:11:31 <xcdfgkjhgcv> Hi.
20:11:40 <xcdfgkjhgcv> Why was I directed here?
20:12:19 <xcdfgkjhgcv> Cultural forum?
20:12:42 <xcdfgkjhgcv> tdobson: I know how to Google, tdobson.
20:17:10 <[bjoern]> Who here you directed?
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20:21:56 <sbp> hello tdobson, xcdfgkjhgcv, skwerl
20:22:08 <skwerl> hai hai
20:22:19 <nsh> phenny, en fi "truism"?
20:22:19 <skwerl> I try to rename ur channel shwack
20:22:19 <phenny> nsh: "itsestäänselvyys" (en to fi, translate.google.com)
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20:22:29 <skwerl> it didn't work XD
20:22:40 <[bjoern]> xcdfgkjhgcv, if you are interested in swhacking on the internet, you've come to the right place.
20:22:41 <sbp> yeah, disunimpossible
20:22:53 <xcdfgkjhgcv> [bjoern]: Super!
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20:23:04 <nsh> wait
20:23:12 <nsh> aren't we supposed to vet a little first?
20:23:23 <sbp> you vet. we're busy
20:23:40 <[bjoern]> You mean, like foreplay?
20:23:47 <sbp> I think that's pet
20:24:04 <[bjoern]> I thought he meant wet.
20:24:06 <sbp> then again, vets take care of pets
20:24:07 <nsh> "danger danger, will robinson. heavy vetting ahead!"
20:24:17 <tdobson> lawl
20:24:17 <sbp> tim dobson
20:24:21 <tdobson> hai
20:24:23 <sbp> not will robinson
20:24:23 <[bjoern]> So you mean more like dating.
20:24:45 <skwerl> you vet your dates?
20:24:52 <sbp> you date your vet?
20:24:59 <skwerl> mebbe
20:25:04 <skwerl> if I get a discount :D
20:25:09 <sbp> plan
20:25:16 <[bjoern]> A vet is present at all my dates.
20:25:22 <tdobson> xcdfgkjhgcv: do you vet your dates?
20:25:29 <skwerl> beastiality much?
20:25:50 <nsh> within reason
20:27:08 <skwerl> hallo nshling
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20:28:09 <sbp> bai2u xcdfgkjetc.
20:28:50 <tdobson> :(
20:28:56 <skwerl> not a lingerer
20:29:09 <[bjoern]> Like I said, Swhack Grillfests aren't what they used to be.
20:29:25 <sbp> gone are the days of neo85
20:29:38 <sbp> say, tdobson... do you have any tree files?
20:29:57 <[bjoern]> Oh I hope not
20:30:07 <[bjoern]> Those can be very dangerous
20:31:07 <sbp> yay, Finder crashed:
20:31:09 <sbp> 21/05/2009 21:29:59 Finder[93] *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[NSCFArray absoluteURL]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x19aea3a0'
20:31:30 <[bjoern]> Ugh. I wonder how to dispose of them safely.
20:31:52 <sbp> tree files? well if you're on Windows there's a simple command you can use
20:31:53 <tdobson> lol nice user friendly fail message
20:32:06 <sbp> tdobson: actually it didn't say anything at all
20:32:14 <sbp> I had to open up Console to find out what was up
20:32:51 <tdobson> ah
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20:49:03 <Monty2> yo jeffarch!
20:51:43 <skwerl> Monty! c'mere and gimme some love
20:51:45 <Monty2> if you're trying to Indexed
20:51:59 <skwerl> I wasn't
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20:53:52 <[bjoern]> "If your child won't sit still at the dentist, the doctor, or the kitchen table, you need the PediSedate Helmet. The device consisting of a colorful headset that connects to a game component or a portable CD player. After a snorkel attachment goes into the child's mouth, the helmet will monitor respiratory function and distribute nitrous oxide or anesthetic gas."
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22:29:41 <[bjoern]> so the man page for realpath advises not to use the function, but then makes no suggestion what to use instead...
22:30:36 <[bjoern]> I suppose the idea is that you use the glibc extension to work around the allocation problem...
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