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02:27:56 <Morbus> who was talking about cutycapt today?
02:29:22 <jsled> Morbus: "<[bjoern]> it's still compiling Qt, but I've rebuilt CutyCapt anyway... it's 5 MB bigger than with Qt 4.4... for a total of almost 20 MB .exe."
02:29:32 <Morbus> thought so.
02:29:33 <jsled> It would be [bjoern]. It's always [bjoern].
02:29:38 <Morbus> i'm finally going through old bookmarks.
02:29:43 <Morbus> and i happened to have cutycapt in here.
02:29:47 <jsled> what's up, Morbass?
02:29:49 <Morbus> wondering the connection, if any.
02:30:00 <jsled> what're you gaming, these days?
02:30:12 <Morbus> console, pc, or web?
02:30:15 <jsled> Or just hanging out with your flesh and blood?
02:30:45 <jsled> most impressive, I request.
02:32:02 <Morbus> hrn. i'm not really playing anything impressive at the moment.
02:32:16 <Morbus> i'm looking foward to the sims 3, which hits tuesday.
02:32:28 <Morbus> the movie mashup creation tool in there is of prime interest (youtube vids upon request).
02:32:44 <Morbus> playing spore a little more cos of the june 23rd galactic adventures expansion (in short: make adventures. whee.)
02:32:51 <Morbus> but, other than that, same old, same old, mostly
02:33:32 <jsled> cool.
02:34:18 <jsled> I'm trying to find time to finish Chronicles of Riddick : Butcher Bay … I don't think I'll continue on to Dark Athena, though maybe to see the diference in gaes.
02:34:23 <jsled> games, even.
02:34:38 <jsled> already ordered infamous, should arrive next week.
02:34:50 <jsled> trying to motivate to Little Big Planet. :(
02:35:40 <Morbus> the IGDA writers list is all ablaze about infamous (primarily cos one of the writer's hangs out there) - why is it important? i haven't been paying attention.
02:35:46 <Morbus> i *never* got into LBP. never did.
02:36:35 * [bjoern] wrote CutyCapt, that's why
02:36:42 <Morbus> [bjoern]: ah!
02:36:52 <Morbus> i suspected it was something like that ;)
02:36:56 <[bjoern]> hehe
02:36:59 <jsled> new ip. good graphics/gameplay. good vs. evil choices, though the more dismissive end is "while it's a good option to see, it's still not *handled in any reasonable way*".
02:38:02 <jsled> it's … akin to Uncharted, as near as I can tell. A solid new game, PS3 exclusive, brings some new elements, but it's evolution, not revolution
02:38:11 <jsled> But especially in May, people are all over it.
02:39:15 <jsled> Riddick is good, but I Love the Riddick movies, in which I am apparently the minority.
02:39:17 <Morbus> heh, yeah.
02:40:47 <jsled> I still say Chronicles of Riddick is one of the best hard-scifi movies I've ever seen; the dialog is not as bad as all that, and the movie overall more than makes up for it. Pitch Black is just a solid good scifi movie.
02:40:54 <jsled> though the two are very dfferent.
02:41:52 <Morbus> i haven't seen any of the pitch black series.
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02:47:16 <procto> what is "hard" about its scifi?
02:47:35 <procto> "hard scifi" usually refers to technically/scientifically "accurate" scifi
02:47:43 <procto> or do you mean it as opposed to fantasy?
02:47:45 <procto> etc.
02:51:58 <jsled> good point. I guess I'm misuing hard-scifi.
02:52:33 <jsled> in Chronicles … there's all sorts of critical, unexplained, yet significant fiction.
02:53:01 <jsled> Like the propulsion drives of the necromonger ships, and the deep-space communiction.
02:53:25 <jsled> Plus, the general darkness of the material, which I guess I relate with "hard" ness.
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05:23:48 <Monty2> hi jeffarch, how ya doing?
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08:29:55 <xodium> Gee how I love meetings...
08:30:08 <xodium> Incessant, interminable, meetings...
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08:33:53 <sbp> yo
08:33:54 <phenny> sbp: 01:37Z <Morbus> tell sbp i'm actually thinking about moving most of my bookmarks from firefox into delicious and running the delicious plugin.
08:33:59 <phenny> sbp: 01:37Z <Morbus> tell sbp i don't really use bookmarks like i used to anymore - i rarely.. ... "fall in love with a site", I suppose. I no longer read newspapers (i.e. categories of bookmarks, such as "Horror Sites"), but flit from article to article, most of which are *rarely worth keeping* but *certainly worth remembering*.
08:34:01 <phenny> sbp: 03:25Z <Morbus> tell sbp bought a 1tb drive. decided not to splurge on 2 (by the time i need another one, i suspect 1.5s will be out <g>)
08:34:01 <_ulises> yo sbpmang
08:34:25 <sbp> yo _ulises
08:34:44 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus oh, and the ones actually worth keeping are basically the ones you put on disobey Link Dumps anyway?
08:34:45 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
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08:57:59 <Monty2> lo Talliesin
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09:19:09 <cre8radix> phenny: tell [bjoern] - http://www.berlin-kreuzberg-institut.com/BKI_13__hosted_by_ROBOSONIC__with_EMERSON-TODD_and_FRESH-MEAT_KANDEL__22MAY09.mp3
09:19:10 <phenny> cre8radix: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
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10:09:08 <Monty2> Speak of the devil, it's cre8radix!
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10:37:06 <sbp> ERRATEN WER IST IM HAUS
10:37:12 <sbp> ER IST BJOERN! BJOERN IST IM HAUS
10:37:32 <[bjoern]> Darauf kannst du Gift nehmen oder Björn fragen.
10:37:33 <phenny> [bjoern]: 09:19Z <cre8radix> tell [bjoern] - http://www.berlin-kreuzberg-institut.com/BKI_13__hosted_by_ROBOSONIC__with_EMERSON-TODD_and_FRESH-MEAT_KANDEL__22MAY09.mp3
10:37:47 <[bjoern]> FRESH MEAT KANDEL
10:37:47 <sbp> WARUM IST BJOERN IM HAUS?
10:38:12 <[bjoern]> Im Haus ist das Wetter freundlicher als ausserhalb des Hauses.
10:38:39 <sbp> SINN MACHT
10:39:40 <sbp> guess what the news is!
10:39:51 <[bjoern]> boing?
10:39:51 <sbp> another MP has paid thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money to his family
10:40:07 <sbp> which has pretty much been the news for three straight weeks now
10:40:11 <sbp> 10 MPs are standing down so far
10:40:21 <sbp> what I like is the idea that when we elect new people...
10:40:44 <sbp> they're bound to be less corrupt. as though if we elected them before all this was known, these new people wouldn't be the sort of people to take advantage of the rules
10:40:57 <sbp> but now that these particular rules are being changed, of course, they'll be unable to take advantage of them
10:41:09 <sbp> so they'll have to look for other wonderful, spicy rules to take advantage of
10:42:51 <[bjoern]> Bing reminds me of http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biing! and Microsoft|Alpha.
10:43:03 <[bjoern]> Did he pay his wife for sex?
10:43:36 <[bjoern]> There must be important legislation or other going on, otherwise concentrating on that for so long would not make sense.
10:43:37 <sbp> nice logo. http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:USK16.svg
10:43:58 <sbp> who is Bing?
10:44:12 <[bjoern]> http://bing.com/
10:44:45 <sbp> oh this looks comic
10:46:14 <sbp> ‘The page “Progression of Bing” has content of MIME type “application/x-silverlight-2”. Because you don’t have a plug-in installed for this MIME type, this content can’t be displayed.’ — bummer
10:47:24 <sbp> BBC has become an advice agency:
10:47:26 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8067929.stm
10:47:28 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | Business | How to avoid tax just like an MP
10:47:40 <sbp> you too can be like your heroes!
10:48:16 <sbp> “You should not rely on this information to make (or refrain from making) any decisions”
10:49:17 <[bjoern]> DESTROY THE INFORMATION
11:13:56 <deltab> Chandler Bing, from Friends
11:15:10 <Morbus> morning sbp.
11:15:11 <phenny> Morbus: 08:34Z <sbp> tell Morbus oh, and the ones actually worth keeping are basically the ones you put on disobey Link Dumps anyway?
11:15:48 <Morbus> yeah, see, i have a ton of of sites that i have been keeping inside Firefox - mostly referency-sorta things. all the sites i use everyday i /don't/ bookmark cos i tend to remmeber them or tehy're in my startup.
11:16:12 <Morbus> so, to serve both as backup, but also to remove the structured hierarchy, i'm thinking of moving most everything to delicious.
11:16:20 <Morbus> years ago, i used and maintained the hierarchy.
11:16:29 <Morbus> but nowadays, i find myself using the search option in the bookmarks toolbar more often.
11:16:47 <Morbus> the only time i actually use the hierarchy is if i'm clearning out old bookmarks.
11:16:52 <Morbus> i just use bookmarks differently than i did long ago.
11:17:01 <Morbus> so moving to the delicious extension seems to facilitate this.
11:17:47 <deltab> that's quite common, going by what Aza Raskin's been saying recently
11:18:13 <Morbus> linky?
11:18:40 <Morbus> i would still use firefox's bookmark thing for in utero bookmarks.
11:18:56 <Morbus> i literally put four or five in there a day, and only about 1 in 10 actually becomes decent enough for saving (be it in the hierarchy or on delicious).
11:19:08 <Morbus> i would hate to have those all spammed to delicious (and disobey)
11:19:58 <Morbus> http://www.disobey.com/detergent/lists/bookmarks
11:20:07 <Morbus> that's an *old* version of my bookmarks - maybe two years old.
11:20:18 <Morbus> the hierarchy has changed slightly since then, but pretty much the same n concept.
11:21:49 <Morbus> heh. funny. his first blog post is about jetpack and i just heard about jetpack last night, after deleting a bookmark for ubiquity
11:29:10 <Morbus> deltab: how do you use bookmarks?
11:30:56 <sbp> search: yeah, similar here
11:31:05 <sbp> so I found that I was really searching for almost everything
11:31:09 <Morbus> sbp: where's all your phenny google code?
11:31:11 <sbp> and I tried to find what things I wasn't searching for
11:31:19 <sbp> and found that there's only like a half dozen things I don't
11:31:23 <sbp> so those I put on my start page
11:31:25 <Morbus> yeah.
11:31:30 <sbp> the webservices code? hmm, dunno
11:31:31 <sbp> hang on
11:31:36 <Morbus> like, i have a whole folder for freeware images.
11:31:44 <Morbus> i don't think i have *ever* used a freeware image.
11:32:02 <sbp> Morbus: http://code.google.com/p/phenny-ws/source/browse/trunk
11:32:04 <Morbus> why do i keep 'em around? i have no idea. but will i have the prescient in the future to remember to look at Flickr's CC image pool?
11:32:10 <Morbus> I'm not sure that I will. So I keep them around.
11:32:14 <sbp> note that nslater maintains phenny-ws, not me
11:32:31 <sbp> yeah, I see what you mean
11:32:39 <sbp> a kind of library
11:32:40 <Morbus> [07:30] <Morbus> i use a bot called phenny every day and it always does fun things.
11:32:46 <Morbus> [07:32] <Gurpartap> Yeah, it's a pretty popular python bot
11:32:46 <Morbus> [07:32] <Morbus> the creator and I have been friends for decades :D
11:32:52 <Morbus> ^^ random talk about my bot.module.
11:32:57 <sbp> ooh, he knows about it?
11:33:00 <sbp> it's a popular python bot? heh
11:33:02 <Morbus> apparently, yeah ;)
11:33:05 <sbp> sweet
11:33:27 <Morbus> hrm.
11:33:31 * Morbus searches in here for .g and .gc.
11:34:02 <Morbus> grr.
11:34:24 <sbp> nope, this is just for .o
11:34:31 <Morbus> oh. you're useful
11:34:35 <sbp> http://inamidst.com/phenny/modules/search.py
11:34:41 <sbp> ah! ehheh, I see
11:34:45 <Morbus> thanks.
11:34:45 <sbp> you asked for the Google Code
11:34:51 <Morbus> ah!
11:34:51 <sbp> I thought you meant the code-on-google
11:34:58 <Morbus> yes. the Google code, not the Google Code.
11:35:01 <sbp> aye. hehe
11:35:04 <Morbus> DUH.
11:36:13 <Morbus> that'd be hilarious. we should spit out the Google Logo in ASCII each time.
11:37:00 <sbp> with IRC colour
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11:49:28 <Morbus> anyone played with google wave?
11:50:45 * Morbus adds "If this is yet another yet another, I'll be upset." as his comment to the Google Wave team.
11:51:24 <sbp> .g Google Wave
11:51:26 <phenny> sbp: http://wave.google.com/
11:52:16 <sbp> you know what's annoying?
11:52:22 <sbp> this trend for introducing things with videos
11:52:26 * _ulises tried watching the video, got annoyed at the guy
11:52:26 <Morbus> wow, they talk about orkut.
11:52:31 <sbp> this video is nearly one and a half hours long!
11:52:35 <Morbus> yeah.
11:52:38 <libby> sheesh
11:52:39 <_ulises> and the guy is an utter cock
11:52:44 <Morbus> jesus. give me a 2 meg page of screenshots anyday.
11:52:55 <Morbus> i've lost total interet.
11:53:00 <sbp> right. it seems to take about ten times as long to get the same information from a video that you can get from a page of screenshots and summary points
11:53:00 <_ulises> heh
11:53:01 <Morbus> i'll wait for the release.
11:53:22 <sbp> oh, here we go
11:53:24 <sbp> Morbus: http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html
11:53:29 <sbp> found via Wikipedia :-)
11:53:35 <Morbus> yeah, i saw some of that.
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11:57:25 <sbp> .wik Karen Gillan
11:57:27 <phenny> "Karen Gillon (nee Karen Turnbull) (born 18 August 1967, Edinburgh) is a Scottish Labour politician, and Member of the Scottish Parliament for Clydesdale constituency since 1999." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Gillon
11:57:32 <sbp> no...
11:57:42 <sbp> anyway, that's the new Doctor Who sidekick
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12:38:27 <Monty2> hi cori[s]
12:38:46 <cori[s]> 'morning, Monty
12:38:50 <Monty2> legislation's unlit Ross Kemp delights shell scripts's gas-filled masks...?
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12:51:53 <sbp> hello kpreid
12:52:28 <kpreid> AAAAUGH!!!!
12:52:30 <kpreid> Monty has taken over sbp!
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12:52:32 <Monty2> But what does Morbus have to do with the price of fish?
12:52:33 <Monty2> I remember when you used to drink porno.
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13:24:45 <kpreid> is there a linux-desktop convention for how to invoke a web browser? some env var or standard command?
13:25:51 <[bjoern]> Type `env` and find out?
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13:28:31 <kpreid> That would suppose I have a linux desktop machine...
13:28:52 <kpreid> whereas I'm in the position of being on a Mac and I want to write something not gratuitously specialized
13:31:17 <[bjoern]> .gc "getenv browser"
13:31:18 <phenny> "getenv browser": 36
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14:32:44 <jessica> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/5400581/Beavers-to-be-reintroduced-to-UK-after-400-years-a-factfile.html
14:32:47 <jessica> .title
14:32:47 <phenny> jessica: Beavers to be reintroduced to UK after 400 years: a factfile - Telegraph
14:32:56 <jessica> you guys didn't have any *beavers*???
14:39:43 <sbp> the title clearly indicates that we did
14:40:18 <sbp> then we killed them all
14:40:26 <sbp> now we feel guilty, so we imported some back
14:42:14 <[bjoern]> The trees are going to attack.
14:43:35 <sbp> I remember when you used to drink porno
14:44:06 <sbp> WOAH GREEN
14:44:19 <[bjoern]> Like I said
14:44:42 <sbp> so guess what I made?
14:46:03 <[bjoern]> You crossed beavers with fire dragons.
14:46:03 <Monty2> Darauf kannst du letters
14:46:37 <sbp> nearly!
14:46:49 <sbp> I wrote a python stream editor
14:46:54 <sbp> a rather makeshift one
14:47:03 <sbp> because you know, sed is bollocks
14:47:10 <sbp> and then I hooked it up to an IRC bot
14:47:21 <sbp> and then made some stuff to edit HTML and Atom feeds
14:47:30 <sbp> so I can weblog from IRC! (again!)
14:47:38 <sbp> isn't that EXCITING!
14:47:47 <[bjoern]> It's oldskool twitter.
14:47:51 <sbp> exactly
14:48:03 <sbp> like we were doing on here in 2003
14:48:09 <[bjoern]> Yeah I recall.
14:48:23 <sbp> ...and then again in 2004, but that wasn't a weblog
14:48:36 <sbp> anyway, this time it's even more stupid
14:49:02 <[bjoern]> now that is exciting
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15:35:26 <Monty2> Speak of the devil, it's bancus!
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15:54:05 <[bjoern]> "When there are lots of units on the map (around turn 9 or 10) the AI takes 50 (in words FIFTY!) minutes to complete its turn (tested on a 2.7 GHz system)." - https://gna.org/bugs/?13545
15:54:13 <[bjoern]> I had hoped it would get better at that point...
15:54:32 <sbp> .title http://gna.org/
15:54:37 <phenny> sbp: Welcome [Gna!]
16:08:37 <sbp> sounds like something you say when GNU software goes wrong
16:08:58 <[bjoern]> Which is good, then.
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16:22:16 <sbp> weird:
16:22:17 <sbp> [[[
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16:22:41 <sbp> 45
16:22:43 <sbp> ]]]
16:24:18 <sbp> why does it chop two characters off instead of one, I wonder?
16:29:32 <[bjoern]> off by one errors are common...
16:52:22 <[bjoern]> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-20090528/#rule-for-parsing-a-non-negative-integer0 - I wonder if I should file a comment objecting to this text, as it is unclear how `position` is incremented in step 8 subitem C.
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16:54:00 <[bjoern]> Also funny how the empty string results in an error, but a string with no digits does not.
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17:03:50 <sbp> [bjoern], Morbus: http://inamidst.com/whits/code/hebe/
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17:41:42 <[bjoern]> Does a string start with its first character, or before the first character?
17:41:46 <[bjoern]> (answer is obvious)
17:42:47 <sbp> it can't have started yet if it's before the first character
17:43:05 <sbp> that's an empty document that you put before the string
17:43:10 <sbp> to let people know the string is coming
17:44:16 <[bjoern]> what if the coming string is empty?
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17:45:52 <sbp> then it can never start
17:46:14 <sbp> '' = empty document
17:46:18 <sbp> 'abc' = string
17:46:22 <[bjoern]> so can you point at the start of an empty string?
17:46:35 <sbp> there's no such thing as an empty string
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17:46:58 <sbp> hmm, this is how it must have felt when they discovered zero
17:47:06 <sbp> "you can't have zero of something!"
17:48:42 <sbp> [bjoern]: but when you have a python string...
17:48:49 <sbp> you can do 'abc'[0]
17:48:54 <sbp> which gives 'a'
17:48:58 <sbp> so the 0 indexes a character
17:49:05 <sbp> or you can do 'abc'[0:1]
17:49:08 <sbp> which also gives 'a'
17:49:23 <[bjoern]> You just wait for py4k
17:49:28 <[bjoern]> Then they will break that too.
17:49:29 <sbp> so the 0 and the 1 index positions between characters (or between epsilon and the first character)
17:49:51 <sbp> probably...
17:49:52 <[bjoern]> .py 'abc'[0:0]
17:50:23 <sbp> ubrokeit!
17:50:28 <sbp> .py 'abc'[0:1]
17:50:31 <phenny> a
17:50:44 <sbp> .py repr('abc'[0:0])
17:50:47 <phenny> ''
17:50:50 <[bjoern]> Perhaps I was made in the failforge.
17:50:55 <sbp> nu
17:56:26 <deltab> kpreid: python -m webbrowser
18:01:34 <sbp> oh this is good:
18:01:35 <sbp> $ man python
18:01:37 <sbp> fgets: Is a directory
18:01:39 <sbp> Error reading man page /opt/local/share/man/man1/python.1
18:01:41 <sbp> No manual entry for python
18:02:16 <sbp> ooh, there's a -u:
18:02:17 <sbp> -u : unbuffered binary stdout and stderr (also PYTHONUNBUFFERED=x)
18:02:18 <sbp> see man page for details on internal buffering relating to '-u'
18:02:23 <sbp> but no -n
18:03:41 <sbp> <TimToady> anthology ought to be the study of flowers :)
18:03:42 <sbp> <TimToady> ...such as camelias
18:03:48 <sbp> — #perl6
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18:08:25 <deltab> kpreid: does that answer your need?
18:09:13 <deltab> there's also programs such as gnome-www-browser in gnome, start in windows, maybe open on the mac, etc.
18:09:46 <deltab> but webbrowser such find the appropriate one for the platform
18:09:53 <deltab> ^should find
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18:29:42 <deltab> [bjoern]: sounds like C++ iterators
18:30:08 <[bjoern]> those took a lot a lot to get used to
18:32:07 <deltab> hence position points to a character, or past the end of the string
18:33:31 <deltab> coming up on Channel 4 News: streaming TV to game consoles
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18:41:49 <deltab> [bjoern]: the definition of 'Numeric attribute' links to http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-20090528/#rule-for-getting-a-single-attribute-valu0 which strips starting whitespace; so the number parser should need to deal with it
18:43:16 <deltab> ^shouldn't
18:43:44 <[bjoern]> i'm sure that's so the algorithm is more generic
18:46:15 <deltab> so why not use an existing algorithm?
18:46:46 <[bjoern]> I think the question is more why not specify the same thing in a single sentence.
18:47:09 <kpreid> deltab: thanks, looks good
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18:54:21 <Monty2> yo libby!
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20:10:55 <[bjoern]> Yes, go implement Twitter distortion fields in parliament! http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/139610
20:13:20 <[bjoern]> this is great http://www.pilotundflugzeug.de/forum/2006,11,11,17,4115544
20:13:44 <sbp> phenny: "Sehr geehrte Privatflieger!"?
20:13:45 <phenny> sbp: "Dear Private Pilot!" (de to en, translate.google.com)
20:14:45 <[bjoern]> It's a survey as to your reaction when flying your plane filled with explosive into a nuclear power plant, but then the nuclear power planet uses smoke discharger as countermeasure.
20:15:42 <sbp> depends how close you are when it discharges it, I presume?
20:16:10 <[bjoern]> not per the suggested answers
20:18:10 <[bjoern]> "The Supreme Court on Tuesday overturned a long-standing ruling that stopped police from initiating questions unless a defendant's lawyer was present"
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20:41:30 <MoiraA> sbp: :((
20:41:33 <MoiraA> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm?list966321
20:42:09 <sbp> ah, bummer
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20:46:04 <nsh> The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance, occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size were predicting for 2013."
20:46:25 <nsh> !!!!2012 END OF THE WORLD 2012!!!!
20:51:59 <[bjoern]> Just as you know it.
20:53:02 <sbp> LEONARD BERNSTEIN!
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