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00:02:31 <[bjoern]> .u dot
00:02:32 <phenny> U+2214 DOT PLUS (∔)
00:02:35 <[bjoern]> .u mid dot
00:02:36 <phenny> U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT (·)
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00:12:51 <[bjoern]> antonym for constrain?
00:13:30 <[bjoern]> Not as in allow, but as in, say, widen a realm of possibility
00:13:38 <kpreid> unrestrict
00:13:47 <[bjoern]> that's terrible
00:13:49 <kpreid> expand
00:14:04 <kpreid> no, no: Generalize!
00:14:49 <[bjoern]> relieve would be closer to what I want
00:15:03 <[bjoern]> X constrains Y; X ... Y
00:15:50 <[bjoern]> free is also not quite it
00:16:13 <kpreid> I would go with 'expand' in the absence of further context
00:17:02 <[bjoern]> By rejecting your suggestions, I limit your options
00:17:26 <[bjoern]> If I proivde more context, I would ...
00:18:13 <[bjoern]> loosen, liberate, relax, hmm
00:18:22 <[bjoern]> relax is not too bad
00:18:26 <kpreid> yes
00:18:47 <kpreid> except one would usually speak of relaxing constraints/restrictions, not the target of them
00:18:57 <[bjoern]> yeah
00:20:36 <[bjoern]> X forces a particular choice upon Y. X gives a two or more alternatives to Y.
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00:22:38 <[bjoern]> I guess I go with "offer alternatives"
00:48:56 * Arnia is reading up on the wave protocol
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00:54:57 <[bjoern]> "Do you homework now!" is imperative; "You must do your homework now." is ...?
01:03:49 <Arnia> It has a certain illocutionary force granted by its modal verb
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01:04:02 <Arnia> But there are lots of sorts of illocutionary force
01:04:10 <Arnia> .wik force dynamics Talmy
01:04:11 <phenny> "Force Dynamics is a semantic category that describes the way in which entities interact with reference to force." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Dynamics
01:04:13 <[bjoern]> grammatically
01:10:48 <[bjoern]> .wik obligative mood
01:10:50 <phenny> "In linguistics, modals are expressions broadly associated with notions of possibility and necessity." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_modality
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02:05:33 <Ficthe> phenny, en ru "Something"?
02:05:35 <phenny> Ficthe: The en to ru translation failed, sorry!
02:06:07 <Ficthe> <something>->en translations seems fine, but en-><something> always fail
02:06:41 <Ficthe> phenny, ru en "чтонибудь"?
02:06:42 <phenny> Ficthe: "chtonibud" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
02:06:47 <Ficthe> phenny, ru en "что-нибудь"?
02:06:48 <phenny> Ficthe: "something" (ru to en, translate.google.com)
02:11:42 <BigJibby> .w chtonibud
02:11:43 <phenny> Couldn't get any definitions for chtonibud.
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02:56:31 <[bjoern]> open source .zip fix tool? as in, recovery?
02:57:01 <[bjoern]> back in the day i used pkzipfix
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04:14:16 <Ficthe> .w touché
04:14:18 <phenny> touché — interjection: 1. (fencing) An acknowledgement of a hit, 2. (idiomatic) An acknowledgement of the success, appropriateness or superiority of an argument, sometimes used sarcastically to mock one's opponent's absurd logic
04:14:45 <Ficthe> .w خدا
04:14:46 <phenny> خدا — noun: 1. God, god, 2. lord, 3. patron, 4. chief, 5. master
04:14:58 <Ficthe> Oh, that's been repaired, hey :)
04:19:05 <Ficthe> may I ask what version of python phenny is running?
04:19:11 <Ficthe> on
04:21:54 <[bjoern]> 2.checkthelogs
04:22:24 <[bjoern]> I guess it's one of 456 but then what do I know.
04:25:37 <Ficthe> I ask, because I get this: <Ficthe> .w touché
04:25:38 <Ficthe> <gosten> UnicodeError: URL u'http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=touch\xe9&printable=yes' contains non-ASCII characters (file "/usr/lib/python2.5/urllib.py", line 1004, in toBytes)
04:27:08 <[bjoern]> with the jan 19 version?
04:28:38 <[bjoern]> does not seem like it has any special countermeasures for that, so...
04:29:39 <Ficthe> I don't think I've the jan 19 version, I'll try what's one the website though, just a sec
04:30:50 <Ficthe> \o/
04:30:52 <Ficthe> works, thanks.
04:31:38 <[bjoern]> thank me by trying the latest version first next time!
04:32:49 <Ficthe> :)
04:33:14 <Ficthe> on*
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06:07:39 <finlay> Welcome to the www.hackjllm.cn time to
06:08:59 <tonyjun> 1
06:10:02 <finlay> ºÃ°¡
06:10:45 <finlay> 5555555
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06:21:08 <tonyjun> ?
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06:21:42 <tonyjun> ºÇ¡£
06:26:09 <finlay> Welcome to the www.hackjllm.cn time to
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09:05:59 <sbp> yo
09:08:48 <Ficthe> hi
09:34:08 <sbp> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=372_1243563675
09:45:04 <Ficthe> ooooooooooomygawd
09:45:17 <Ficthe> I hope he live on a ground-level floor ;\
09:45:20 <Ficthe> jesus christ
09:45:30 <Ficthe> lived(
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10:21:36 <xover> Oh man. “All kinds of weird” is right.
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11:04:07 <cre8radix> heya
11:04:09 <cre8radix> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/google-dailymotion-endorse-html-5-and-standards-based-video.ars?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=arstch&utm_term=Main%20Account&utm_campaign=microblogging
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11:19:13 <_ulises> yo cre8radix
11:19:25 <cre8radix> yoyo
11:19:29 <cre8radix> _ulises
11:21:11 <cre8radix> lol
11:21:12 <cre8radix> http://vodpod.com/watch/1698956-eminem-gets-face-raped-at-the-mtv-awards
11:23:44 <_ulises> bwehehehe
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11:55:04 <sbp> “Eminem seemed visibly upset at the mishap. Or was it a joke he was in on?”
11:55:13 <sbp> — http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gXMcqab2qfAz3xRxit_TSgYr76aAD98HJT600
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12:09:29 <_ulises> well, he got totally faceraped
12:09:36 <_ulises> 'twas about time too
12:11:50 <Arnia> sbp: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8076000/8076805.stm
12:17:11 <Arnia> .title
12:17:12 <phenny> Arnia: BBC - Today
12:17:16 <Arnia> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8076381.stm
12:17:20 <Arnia> .title
12:17:22 <phenny> Arnia: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Birdsong radio taken off the air
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12:39:16 <[bjoern]> happy mailman day
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13:22:31 <xover> .title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm4ZuWKW9s8
13:22:33 <phenny> xover: YouTube - Eminem MTV awards!!!!(GETS TEABAGGED)
13:22:58 <xover> Remarkably calm, I'd say.
13:25:59 <realist> Only because there were so many witnesses.
13:29:24 <[bjoern]> So I have two natural numbers and I want a third natural number to be 1 if they are equal and 0 otherwise.
13:31:28 <[bjoern]> not(a - b) and not(b - a) maybe
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14:02:05 <finlay> YES
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14:03:38 <[bjoern]> finlay, what is thy bidding?
14:04:13 <finlay> helil .
14:04:58 <[bjoern]> Does you mum know you command helil . ?
14:05:16 <finlay> What everyone is busy this£¿
14:07:24 <finlay> Ha ha. . . How not to come out and say ah, ah chat
14:07:56 <[bjoern]> finlay, you got nice boobs?
14:09:31 <finlay> bjoern¡£ What a good chest?
14:09:43 <[bjoern]> Thank you.
14:10:06 <[bjoern]> So what are you hacking?
14:11:48 <finlay> Yes .. you are like hacking software?
14:12:08 <[bjoern]> I am totally like hacking software.
14:12:39 <finlay> I found a hacker attacks a network tool
14:13:22 <[bjoern]> I heard that in russia network tool attacks hacker.
14:14:30 <finlay> Things just do not know of a friend to chat have a few good hackers site best free ....
14:15:24 <finlay> Yes. . I now have in Russia in China, it is
14:15:42 <[bjoern]> So you from china?
14:16:58 <[bjoern]> ------ BEGIN SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
14:16:58 <[bjoern]> sbp(u give ma hand plz? iz busy codinx serverus o webus)
14:16:58 <[bjoern]> ------ END SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
14:17:49 <finlay> TU is my welcome to you from China?
14:18:24 <finlay> But I like people and foreign friends
14:22:26 <finlay> http://www.hackjllm.cn/wowo/viewspace.php?uid=19590
14:27:50 <finlay> There are people in this £¿/
14:28:10 <finlay> Talk out. . .
14:29:00 <Arnia> We only talk when there is nothing to say
14:30:03 <_ulises> I can has the conversation in Perl!
14:30:34 <Arnia> I'm from Durham. I speak Whitespace
14:30:43 <finlay> TU. What does it discuss? I can tell you I am pleased to participate in
14:31:58 * Arnia is reminded of the Sirius Cybernetics doors for some reason
14:32:17 <Arnia> .wik Whitespace (esoteric language)
14:32:19 <phenny> "Whitespace is an esoteric programming language developed by Edwin Brady and Chris Morris at the University of Durham." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)
14:32:43 <clsn> I guess it's a good language for whispering in.
14:32:55 <Arnia> It is brilliant for sharing code on paper
14:33:07 <Arnia> Really environmentally friendly for those code reviews
14:34:53 <finlay> Thank you ah I have a good look at the programming language code hackers do
14:37:23 <kpreid> i
14:37:37 <kpreid> hm, that was accidental
14:37:56 <kpreid> i⃝
14:38:02 <kpreid> that was deliberate
14:38:10 <clsn> <this space accidentally left blank>
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14:38:44 <[bjoern]>
14:38:44 <[bjoern]>
14:38:44 <[bjoern]>
14:38:44 <[bjoern]> SAVE PAP^W SCREEN SPACE
14:38:44 <[bjoern]>
14:38:44 <[bjoern]>
14:38:46 <[bjoern]>
14:39:16 <kpreid> ^LThis page contains only one line to save ink.^L
14:39:37 <finlay> No but I do not know what it is now in the busy, then
14:40:03 <tonyjun> hello
14:40:59 <finlay> I have been looking for one of the most powerful hacking software can tell want to know where can be downloaded under this / /
14:44:48 <finlay> :o
14:44:52 <finlay> 8-)
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14:47:34 <Arnia> What do you want to hack?
14:47:52 <Arnia> I have some software which works very well with trees
14:48:12 <Arnia> Parakeets need something different
14:51:20 <sbp> --- SECRET MESSAGE TO OPENBRACKETBJOERNCLOSEBRACKET ---
14:51:40 <sbp> [bjoern](hai whatpls u tell thx for encrypting msgsg stop over)
14:51:43 <sbp> --- END SECRET MESSAGE TO OPENBRACKETBJOERNCLOSEBRACKET ---
14:52:00 <sbp> hello to peoples, please are telling me what is up
14:52:12 <Arnia> up is sky and ground
14:52:23 <Arnia> down is pestillance and cowell
14:52:38 <sbp> yes!
14:52:58 <sbp> finlay(do you copy?)
14:53:03 <sbp> finlay(are you receiving?)
14:54:42 <_ulises> sbp please to be teaching me how is hack
14:55:56 <sbp> you put your left leg in
14:56:01 <Arnia> hacking bush pls
14:56:14 <Arnia> I not be having left leg
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14:56:37 <sbp> left leg out. in, out, in, out, rewire their Ten80CX matrix to include a hyprostabolic transductifying cross-over change terbullion, and then shake it all about
14:56:58 <_ulises> please advice how to create Perl for the hacking
14:56:59 <Arnia> You need be reverse the neutron flow
14:57:04 <sbp> Arnia: right leg 'k too
14:57:21 <sbp> finlay(are you receiving?)
14:57:24 <sbp> finlay(u there??)
14:57:27 <sbp> finlay(are you receiving right now?)
14:57:28 <Arnia> K
14:57:30 <Arnia> L
14:57:31 <Arnia> M
14:57:37 <[bjoern]> ------ BEGIN SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
14:57:37 <[bjoern]> sbp(been chasing bugz in wincyg, no phun.)
14:57:37 <[bjoern]> ------ END SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
14:58:00 <Arnia> I was about to make an awful bad taste joke, but given the news today I have decided it is inappropriate
14:59:04 <[bjoern]> there is news?
14:59:12 <sbp> --- SECRET MESSAGE TO OPENBRACKETBJOERNCLOSEBRACKET ---
14:59:12 <sbp> [bjoern](woah!! wincyg is likely to hax u if you not get on its table and spit in its balls really early on i had to reinstallationise it twice from scratchZ0rs becoz is failboating like a cruise canal pls advice on what do about finlay situation pls thanking to you forthwith regards sbp)
14:59:12 <sbp> --- SECRET MESSAGE TO OBRACKETBJOERNCBRACKET ENDS HERE ---
14:59:28 <Arnia> OOOOOBRACKET
14:59:35 * Arnia boings seditiously
14:59:50 <sbp> they should make muffins out of scandal
15:00:01 <sbp> could shred a copy of the Telegraph I suppose and mix it in
15:00:20 <[bjoern]> ------ BEGIN SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
15:00:20 <[bjoern]> sbp(Bombarding myself with thinkions pops the idea of you being late into my head)
15:00:20 <[bjoern]> ------ END SECRET MESSAGE TO SBP ------
15:00:38 <sbp> damnrats
15:00:44 <sbp> FINLAY
15:00:51 <sbp> FINNNNNNLAY!!
15:01:45 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Swhack: Yet to be Hacked by XKCD"
15:01:54 <sbp> (so far as we know)
15:02:06 <clsn> sbp was late getting into your head, [bjoern]? Bummer.
15:02:17 <sbp> on its table
15:02:19 <sbp> in its balls
15:02:21 <sbp> in a robot
15:03:06 <Arnia> still no response to my query about wave
15:03:08 <Arnia> bah
15:03:25 <Arnia> B BIZE ANSERING Q PLS
15:03:30 <[bjoern]> In the windows version, poll() (C) apparently fails to realize when a socket is gone. Got a python test script that socket.close()s on my web server, but the sever never realizes the client is gone, in fact, windows keeps the connection only half closed even after the python script is finished.
15:03:46 <sbp> whom to you did beäsk it of?
15:04:14 <sbp> a python test scripts?!
15:04:18 <sbp> dude, you're going soft
15:04:23 <sbp> *SCRIPT
15:04:51 <sbp> incidentally I have no idea why 2.x version phenny is using either
15:04:56 <sbp> *WHAT
15:05:12 <sbp> ah, 2.5.2
15:05:14 <sbp> sassy
15:05:17 <[bjoern]> test script not by me
15:05:22 <sbp> ah
15:05:28 <sbp> you're only going soft by proxy then
15:06:35 <[bjoern]> I checked out http://www.bing.com/ btw, it's fail
15:07:01 <sbp> Arnia: who did you ask about wave?
15:07:06 <sbp> Arnia: and what did you ask about wave?
15:07:08 <clsn> I thought you said you liked it, [b].
15:07:16 <sbp> [bjoern]: saw that this morning. exceptional level of fail, indeed
15:07:31 <sbp> summary: Google interface, Altavista results
15:07:58 <[bjoern]> I never said such a thing, I was hoping it might be less fail than the recent abominalisation of googles.
15:08:06 <sbp> the funny thing is that the results formatting really is *exactly* the same as Google
15:08:15 <sbp> in terms of font, size, colour, layout...
15:08:24 <[bjoern]> fairly close at least
15:08:35 <sbp> *exactly* fairly close
15:08:39 <clsn> Ah, k.
15:08:46 <Arnia> sbp: I asked the Google wave protocol engineering group, and I asked about whether they knew about Palimpsest and the way it achieves similar 'real time' results to the Wave protocol in a similar way to the Wave protocol but without requiring an authoritative server
15:09:01 <[bjoern]> check the delimiter between host name and "cached version"
15:09:03 <clsn> I wonder if you can "personalize" google to NOT DO THAT for you.
15:09:09 <sbp> ah. good question
15:09:14 <[bjoern]> google uses -, bing uses ·
15:09:21 <[bjoern]> also, bing does not give sizes
15:09:49 <sbp> and they can't even use "we knew about it but it's a bitch to implement" as an excuse since they have effectively unlimited resources to stonk that probbo
15:10:33 <[bjoern]> I already get language fail
15:11:30 <Arnia> There may be other concerns I haven't considered, or they may have simply been unaware of it (it is rather obscure) but it would be nice if they could adopt its properties
15:11:30 <[bjoern]> You can chose between "Show all", "only german", and "only pages from germany", and if I go for "show all" and search for, say, W3C, I only get german results, with w3c.de at the top
15:11:34 <Arnia> Their XMPP extension is almost there actually
15:11:41 <[bjoern]> Also, "seiten aus Deutschland" is spelled incorrectly.
15:12:07 <Arnia> it would just require them to enable the distributed configuration (perhaps allowing for the serverless connection XMPP connection)
15:12:16 <Arnia> http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol/browse_thread/thread/72bd206666e86bc9
15:13:26 <sbp> [bjoern]: even worse, they think you're French!
15:14:10 * clsn tries to think [bjoern] is French.
15:14:19 <clsn> it doesn't work out so great.
15:14:32 <[bjoern]> how do they do that?
15:16:12 <sbp> well they see you're coming from a non-American IP
15:16:21 <sbp> so they assume you must be from the land of Le Bombe Neutron
15:17:01 <[bjoern]> do not view source on their homepage page btw
15:17:44 <sbp> ...agreed, do not do that
15:18:19 <finlay> Can register a forum for the exchange of user you good ah www.hackjllm.cn Can not be opened by Deputy ah
15:18:38 <finlay> http://www.hackjllm.cn
15:18:42 <sbp> use Deputy in Sheriff mode
15:19:56 * Arnia attacks sbp's capabilities
15:20:07 <Arnia> (don't let kpreid see)
15:20:33 <sbp> he's not even watching
15:21:09 <Arnia> aw, that's no fun
15:21:41 * Arnia conducts an exchange with the Book in the corner
15:22:40 <[bjoern]> they are also complete fail at png compression, say http://www.bing.com/fd/s/a/j1.png for example
15:24:34 <[bjoern]> .head content-length http://www.bing.com/fd/hpk2/Santorini_ROW1884971014.jpg
15:24:35 <phenny> Can't connect to http://content-length
15:24:42 <[bjoern]> .head http://www.bing.com/fd/hpk2/Santorini_ROW1884971014.jpg content-length
15:24:43 <phenny> content-length: 80244
15:24:52 <sbp> $ wc -m j1-*.png
15:24:52 <sbp> 1879 j1-advpng.png
15:24:52 <sbp> 1809 j1-optipng.png
15:24:52 <sbp> 2596 j1-original.png
15:24:52 <sbp> 1647 j1-pngout.png
15:24:53 <sbp> 7931 total
15:25:52 <[bjoern]> optipng then pngout gives 2 bytes more
15:26:57 <finlay> yes
15:27:18 <sbp> finlay(u can confirm this?)
15:28:31 <finlay> OK
15:29:02 <finlay> Can attack a country's backbone network
15:29:33 <Arnia> sure, if you're a bigger country or astoundingly lucky, or incredibly smart
15:29:37 <sbp> finlay(yes Monty is hentai merchant he know big deal can hax backbone network using ferrets on a pipe cleaner he is just very good and has spare hentai)
15:29:44 <Arnia> Generally you need to be all three
15:32:24 <finlay> Yes, tens of thousands of Taiwan need to operate a puppet that can be controlled by computers can be made DDOS attacks facie package you have 5.19 on China is a net for a few days off
15:35:06 <sbp> yup
15:39:35 <finlay> We can open this site? http://www.hackjllm.cn Registered under the exchange of a member hacking technology
15:53:52 <Arnia> no
15:55:23 <finlay> Use a proxy that you .. because this is a discussion of China's hackers site
15:55:36 <finlay> Thank you ..
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15:57:19 <[bjoern]> But what does mrled have to do with the price of fish?
15:58:23 <sbp> hoiban, mrled! jang sung fei wai b'kok psan?
15:58:52 <mrled> umm, hi.
15:59:23 <sbp> t'pau bong sing wang seipei b'kog loquan gai pissnog?
15:59:56 * realist wonders what has possessed sbp.
16:00:13 <sbp> thy face, most noble realist
16:00:26 <[bjoern]> sbp: remind me in 20 minutes to You should have done the dishes by now but did not. Get busy.
16:00:36 <sbp> [bjoern]: k, bidding noted
16:01:11 <finlay> ºÇºÇ
16:04:28 <kpreid> Nº C
16:05:12 <kpreid> Nº 0xC?
16:05:19 <kpreid> Nº C++?
16:06:00 <[bjoern]> N° C++0x
16:06:05 <finlay> YES
16:06:38 <kpreid> .u °º
16:06:39 <phenny> U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN (°)
16:06:40 <phenny> U+00BA MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR (º)
16:06:48 <kpreid> [bjoern]: BZZT!
16:07:08 <[bjoern]> OH NO STRUCK BY LIGHTNING
16:07:33 <clsn> ⚡⚡⚡
16:07:48 <Arnia> .u oh no
16:07:50 <phenny> Arnia: Sorry, no results for 'oh no'.
16:08:25 <sbp> mrled: hmm, you've been in here like a dozen times
16:08:30 <finlay> Everyone says that English is the standard English is not very good in fact, I am sorry ah
16:08:31 <sbp> mrled: and that's the first thing you've ever said
16:08:39 <sbp> mrled: what do you want, exactly? heh
16:08:48 <sbp> is there like something you've been wanting to say these past years?
16:08:52 <sbp> and have just never had the courage?
16:09:01 <sbp> the only other possibility is that you like lurking on Swhack
16:09:04 <sbp> which DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
16:09:53 * Arnia likes lurking on Swhack
16:10:00 <Arnia> I get to do carnal things with the Book
16:10:11 <clsn> Arnia: like sbp said, you don't make sense.
16:10:22 <Arnia> I ALWAYS MAKE PERFECT BURBLE
16:10:27 <Arnia> uh, sense
16:10:43 <mrled> mrled: sbp: just lurking around
16:10:56 <sbp> sbp: mrled: okay, cool
16:11:16 <sbp> if you do need anything, you will ask though? right?
16:11:32 <sbp> I'd hate to think you had some kind of secret need for Java porn or something
16:11:34 <mrled> sbp: although sometimes that is because I have no idea what people are saying in here.
16:11:38 <sbp> weirder things have happened. not many, but...
16:11:44 <sbp> yeah, we don't either
16:11:49 <mrled> sbp: coffee porn? that's not that weird.
16:11:51 * kpreid glarks Arnia.
16:11:52 <sbp> that's why it's kinda strange to have people lurking
16:11:59 <Arnia> ooh, kinky
16:12:00 <sbp> nah, I meant the programming language
16:12:19 <mrled> yes, yes, I know.
16:12:26 <mrled> 'twas a jest.
16:12:35 <Arnia> ooh, 'twas eh?
16:12:42 * Arnia nukes mrled
16:12:54 <mrled> quite.
16:12:58 <finlay> We can open this site? http://www.hackjllm.cn Registered under the exchange of a member hacking technology
16:12:58 <finlay> 23:53 Arnia no
16:12:58 <finlay> 23:55 finlay Use a proxy that you .. because this is a discussion of China's hackers site
16:13:20 * Arnia is registered under an exchange of penguins
16:13:39 <finlay> Well all I have to go to bed at midnight in China is now a 12:00
16:14:12 <mrled> sbp: ^^^ see what I mean? ;p
16:14:45 <finlay> Very pleased and we chat. . Tomorrow night in to remember my name finlay
16:15:21 <[bjoern]> When everbody goes to bed at the same time, that makes procreational activities more simple.
16:17:56 <Arnia> sbp, nslater: you have evil email containing furniture porn
16:18:02 * sbp looks
16:20:30 <[bjoern]> It is distracting you from certain obligatives.
16:21:48 <sbp> [bjoern]: HEY
16:21:56 <sbp> [bjoern]: YOU ASKED ME TO REMIND YOU
16:22:01 <sbp> [bjoern]: ABOUT WASHING UP
16:22:20 <sbp> and yeah, you're right. but I also got someone to remind *me*
16:22:26 <sbp> and they just did, so I didn't fail anyway
16:24:06 * kpreid rta "MASHING UP"
16:24:32 <nslater> Arnia: nope
16:24:55 <Arnia> nslater: you should have email containing furniture porn
16:25:07 <nslater> Arnia: nope
16:25:14 <nslater> (might take a while with my greylist)
16:25:18 <Arnia> DAMN CIA STOPPING PERFECTLY CONSENSUAL ACTIVITIES BETWEEN BITS OF WOOD
16:25:38 <Arnia> (not that different from human porn there...)
16:28:11 <[bjoern]> How do you know it's consensual?
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16:34:02 <Arnia> [bjoern]: the wood creaks to me
16:34:06 <Arnia> .u [
16:34:07 <phenny> U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET ([)
16:34:12 <Arnia> .u [
16:34:13 <phenny> U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET ([)
16:34:16 <Arnia> ...
16:34:20 <Arnia> that's weird
16:36:20 <kpreid> What is?
16:37:38 <Arnia> Oh, nickname complete failed to give [bjoern] as an option for '['
16:37:47 <Arnia> if I typed it, that is
16:37:51 <kpreid> WFM
16:37:58 <Arnia> If I coped and pasted it, he came as the only result
16:38:02 <[bjoern]> metoo
16:38:08 <sbp> kpreid: WFY
16:38:16 <kpreid> WIFFLE
16:38:20 <[bjoern]> 0x10 Fail
16:38:32 <kpreid> .u 0010
16:38:32 <phenny> U+0010 (No name found)
16:38:33 <sbp> "Well, I Fuck Ferrets. Let's Eat!"?
16:38:42 <kpreid> in your dreams
16:38:46 <Arnia> .g wiffle ball
16:38:47 <phenny> Arnia: http://www.wiffle.com/
16:38:51 <Arnia> .g wiffle ball fusion
16:38:53 <phenny> Arnia: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Inertial-Electrodynamic_Fusion_Device
16:38:58 <[bjoern]> I wish I'd eat in my dreams.
16:39:04 <sbp> heh, heh
16:39:04 <Arnia> .g satanic plasma
16:39:05 <phenny> Arnia: http://klaustrostudio.com/miscellaneous.html
16:40:30 <[bjoern]> FESTSCHRIFT FÜR Ö AF BELLINDE - good title
16:41:18 <[bjoern]> anyone checked that news is fail today?
16:43:02 <sbp> yep, confirmable
16:44:36 <[bjoern]> "China's health authorities are reported to be putting a stop to restaurants serving chickens which have been bitten to death by poisonous snakes." -- bbc
16:45:55 <sbp> that was just code for "we're still censoring all references to Tianamen Square"
16:48:22 <[bjoern]> I hear things disappear in the Tianamen Triangle
16:49:04 <sbp> .img Tianamen Triangle
16:49:05 <phenny> sbp: http://www.picturecorner.org.uk/USERIMAGES/TIANAMEN%20SQUARE%20BEIJING(1).JPG
16:49:06 <phenny> More here: http://images.google.com/images?q=Tianamen%20Triangle
16:49:20 <sbp> down into those holes perhaps?
16:50:26 <sbp> hahaha
16:50:40 <sbp> someone just mentioned that Ancelotti served for like five years under Berlusconi
16:50:52 <sbp> so Abramovitch should be a doddle
16:51:14 <sbp> *Abramovich
16:52:01 <[bjoern]> are all those people still around?
16:54:53 <sbp> all which people?
16:55:31 <[bjoern]> Ance Berlu and Abra.
16:55:56 <sbp> they are totally still around
16:56:12 <sbp> and managing teams, leading countries, and winning trophes
16:57:47 <[bjoern]> On which day did God create the dilemma?
17:00:15 <[bjoern]> .leo bibelfest
17:00:17 <phenny> bibelfest sein = to be well versed in the Bible (rel.)
17:00:18 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=bibelfest
17:00:24 <[bjoern]> phenny, de en "Bibelfest"?
17:00:26 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Bible Fest" (de to en, translate.google.com)
17:08:55 <[bjoern]> with all this rain and thunderstormy weather I wonder if I have moved somewhere tropical without noticing
17:09:01 <[bjoern]> have to locate the beach
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17:17:59 <[bjoern]> "Fancy a bite? "Vampire" fried blood dish makes a killing in Chad"
17:18:09 <[bjoern]> "Hungry people in the central African nation of Chad have raised an old culinary fad from the dead - to get their fangs stuck into fried blood."
17:26:01 <[bjoern]> .gc "enjoy your affordable swedish crap"
17:26:03 <phenny> "enjoy your affordable swedish crap": 51
17:26:05 <[bjoern]> .gc +enhoy
17:26:06 <phenny> +enhoy: 1,490
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17:54:12 <[bjoern]> .gcs "make up" "make out"
17:54:14 <phenny> "make up" (19,600,000), "make out" (1,430,000)
17:56:23 <Charles> .gcs "make up" "break up"
17:56:25 <phenny> "make up" (19,600,000), "break up" (3,480,000)
17:57:06 <Charles> "make up" is too ambiguous
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18:18:35 <[bjoern]> java for "call method of same name as the current one of ancestor class"?
18:19:04 <[bjoern]> super.youhavetogivethename(...)?
18:21:18 <[bjoern]> If a super class has a constructor that calls another constructor that is overridden by a descendant class, does it call the super class constructor?
18:22:47 <clsn> In Java, yes, iirc.
18:23:04 <[bjoern]> for both questions?
18:23:22 <clsn> the second question. The first, I think so.
18:33:47 <[bjoern]> You can't actually call this(overloading picks parent constructor) it seems
18:35:06 <[bjoern]> so let's make another test then...
18:37:01 <[bjoern]> Seems you cannot invoke a constructor defined only through inheritance either...
18:37:34 <[bjoern]> I'm sure there is a Design Pattern to work around
18:42:42 <deltab> factories
18:43:10 <[bjoern]> Yeah, I did not want to endorse that by saying it out loud.
18:43:56 <deltab> yeah, I read something about problems with constructors a few days ago, and non-inheritance was mentioned
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18:48:06 <jsled> yeah, it's a pita
18:50:14 <jsled> but, it's java, so you get desensitized to it all.
18:50:22 <deltab> http://jeremymanson.blogspot.com/2008/08/top-3-reasons-why-constructors-are.html
18:51:29 <jsled> Like the static-instance-based authentication handling for HttpUrlConnection that caches successful credentials without an (exposed) way of clearing them, so that you need to order all your tests cases especially to make things work. :/
18:54:09 <[bjoern]> And there I was already sufficiently pissed off with the last assignment, saying, oh here's some crappy linked list code, add methods for haskell functions drop, take, concat, etc.
18:54:33 <[bjoern]> with no suggestion whether it's instance methods or static ones, and whether they are destructive or are supposed to clone or whatever
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19:24:14 <sbp> .gc gulating
19:24:16 <phenny> gulating: 12,100
19:24:52 <sbp> .gc ulating
19:24:53 <phenny> ulating: 87,800
19:34:32 <[bjoern]> Java question continues:
19:35:11 <[bjoern]> So I had a linked list implementation. Now I'm to make a LinkedListII implementation that stores the last nodes in a member variable.
19:35:35 <[bjoern]> How does it make sense to have public class LinkedListII extends LinkedList { public LinkedList() { ... } } ?
19:36:32 <jsled> it doesn't. the c'tor would be 'LinkedListII()'
19:36:32 <[bjoern]> javac tells me it does not
19:36:54 <[bjoern]> Well that is the template that I should extend to complete the assignment
19:37:37 <jsled> the one place you can do something like that is an anonymous interface impl. new Thread(new Runnable() { public void run () { ... } }).start()
19:38:16 <[bjoern]> That's not very Haskellish code you have there
19:38:32 <[bjoern]> If it does not look like Haskell, it's not good java. At least that's the impression I'm getting.
19:40:29 <[bjoern]> I'm then also to implement take, drop, concat, etc. again, if any changes are needed from LinkedList
19:40:52 <[bjoern]> That has similar problems, as you'd have to change them all, if only so you get the right return type.
19:48:23 <sbp> chicks have been panting
19:48:25 <sbp> according to telly
20:09:21 <sbp> awesome, Aubrey just got a mention on the Time Team Special
20:09:30 <sbp> (the Aubrey holes specifically. oh, and a piccie of him now. yay!)
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20:20:24 <[bjoern]> oh it's 22 not 23, I was wondering why you are still up...
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20:21:25 <[bjoern]> .gc "Authorization: Basic Z3Vlc3Q6Z3Vlc3Q="
20:21:27 <phenny> "Authorization: Basic Z3Vlc3Q6Z3Vlc3Q=": 35
20:31:40 <sbp> yeah
20:33:37 <[bjoern]> .c 24 in binary
20:33:38 <phenny> 24 = 0b11000
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20:40:39 <[bjoern]> so took care of wincyg bugs or windows bugs or whatever
20:43:53 * [bjoern] ponders removing dead code ... decides negatively
20:47:23 <[bjoern]> Oh I suddenly remember it's supposed to somehow ... let me look up the word ... the headers, which maybe I do, or maybe not, depending on how you read
20:47:48 <[bjoern]> "erfassen"
20:47:55 <[bjoern]> .leo erfassen
20:47:57 <phenny> erfassen | erfasste, erfasst | = to capture, to collect (tech.), to cover, to engage, to enter
20:48:00 <phenny> etw.Akk. erfassen | erfasste, erfasst | = to compass sth. - grasp mentally, to comprehend sth., to comprise sth., to detect sth., to grasp sth. - comprehend
20:48:00 <phenny> Anlagenaltbestand erfassen = to transfer (comm.)
20:48:01 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=erfassen
20:48:27 <[bjoern]> detect it does, it just does not retain them
20:48:56 <[bjoern]> I could write the whole blob into a string if that helps?
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20:49:39 <[bjoern]> then grep for /(zero width assertion for start of string or lf)header-name:.../i
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20:54:08 <sbp> E_FASSEN
20:54:27 <[bjoern]> .leo anfassen
20:54:28 <sbp> would be funnier if it had two r's of course
20:54:29 <phenny> etw.Akk. anfassen | fasste an, angefasst | = to finger sth. (coll.), to handle sth.
20:54:30 <phenny> anfassen | fasste an, angefasst | = to touch
20:54:31 <[bjoern]> .leo fassen
20:54:31 <phenny> jmdn./etw. anfassen | fasste an, angefasst | = to catch hold of so./sth., to take hold of so./sth.
20:54:32 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=anfassen
20:54:34 <phenny> etw.Akk. fassen | fasste, gefasst | = to accommodate sth., to believe sth., to comprise sth., to conceive sth., to contain sth.
20:54:37 <phenny> fassen | fasste, gefasst | = to bite | bit, bitten |, to enchase, to grab, to have a capacity of, to include | included, included |
20:54:39 <phenny> jmdn./etw. fassen | fasste, gefasst | = to catch so./sth. | caught, caught |, to grip so./sth., to hold so./sth. | held, held |
20:54:40 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=fassen
20:54:47 <[bjoern]> no errwords in de I think, but let's check if possible
20:54:59 <[bjoern]> we'd have irrtum
20:55:17 <sbp> you have irrlicht...
20:55:23 <[bjoern]> oh and terror
20:55:54 <sbp> nearly 10pm and it's still baking here
20:56:13 <sbp> .weather EGLL
20:56:15 <phenny> Clear ☼, 20℃, 1025mb, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - EGLL 21:20, 2020Z
20:56:21 <[bjoern]> also in compounds ala adlerrochen
20:56:47 <[bjoern]> so let's check ^
20:57:02 <[bjoern]> errungenschaft
20:57:33 <[bjoern]> .gc +errection
20:57:34 <phenny> +errection: 30,900
20:57:47 <[bjoern]> .leo erreichen
20:57:49 <phenny> achievement = das Erreichen
20:57:51 <phenny> etw.Akk. erreichen | erreichte, erreicht | = to accomplish sth., to achieve sth., to chalk up sth., to equal sth., to get at sth. | got, gotten/got |
20:57:52 <sbp> .leo errungenschaft
20:57:53 <phenny> erreichen | erreichte, erreicht | = to achieve, to arrive, to attain, to obtain, to win | won, won |
20:57:54 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=erreichen
20:57:55 <phenny> accomplishment = die Errungenschaft
20:57:56 <phenny> achievement = die Errungenschaft
20:57:57 <phenny> acquirement - of a thing = die Errungenschaft
20:57:57 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=errungenschaft
20:58:24 <[bjoern]> Erruption
20:58:29 <sbp> hehe
20:58:36 <[bjoern]> That's about all in my english wordlist.
20:58:42 <[bjoern]> yes.
20:58:56 <[bjoern]> (To answer the inevitable question)
20:59:10 <[bjoern]> .leo erraten
20:59:12 <phenny> erraten = guessed a.
20:59:13 <phenny> erraten | erriet, erraten | = to guess, to guess right
20:59:14 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=erraten
20:59:25 <[bjoern]> you have some serious nbspbugs
21:00:22 <sbp> nu !
21:00:44 <sbp> Monty: remind me to add codes. even though you're not here
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21:10:11 <[bjoern]> .wik ipso facto
21:10:13 <phenny> "Ipso Facto is a Latin phrase, directly translated as 'by the fact itself,' which means that a certain effect is a direct consequence of the action in question, instead of being brought about by a subsequent action such as the verdict of a tribunal." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipso_facto
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21:38:56 <sbp> .u o slash
21:38:57 <phenny> sbp: Sorry, no results for 'o slash'.
21:39:02 <sbp> .u o stroke
21:39:03 <phenny> U+00F8 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE (ø)
21:39:06 <[bjoern]> now you are up late.
21:39:11 <sbp> yeah baby!
21:39:26 <[bjoern]> UR NOT A LONE
21:39:42 <[bjoern]> U MEBBE A LOAN
21:41:20 <deltab> ahaha, Cameron saying of Darling that Brown should "back him or sack him"
21:43:31 <deltab> two words often used together in a very different context
21:45:26 <sbp> ...hehe
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22:22:28 <deltab> Michael Wood on Beowulf on BBC4 now
22:25:04 <nsh> oh yeah, news
22:25:07 <nsh> i forget about news
22:26:20 <nsh> how the fuck do you lose a plane with two hundred people on it in this day and age
22:26:29 <nsh> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8076848.stm
22:26:32 <phenny> nsh: BBC NEWS | World | Americas | French plane lost in ocean storm
22:36:11 <nsh> "The Encyclopedia, based at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC, and the London's Natural History Museum are the key backers of the project."
22:36:14 <nsh> way to english, bbc
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