2009-06-02 Swhack IRC Log

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00:41:51 <kpreid> .u É
00:41:52 <phenny> U+00C9 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (É)
01:23:19 <[bjoern]> .c sqrt(29146/3)
01:23:20 <phenny> sqrt(29 146 / 3) = 98.5663905
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07:02:27 <finlay> All good.....................
07:25:45 <nsh> whut, everything?
07:26:00 <nsh> even sixteen year old wiggers with progenia?
07:27:24 <_ulises> nsh: yo
07:27:40 <nsh> hey man
07:27:42 <nsh> what's up?
07:27:59 <_ulises> not much, you in Glasgow yet?
07:28:12 <nsh> not til mid-august
07:28:17 <nsh> in finland now
07:28:21 <_ulises> oh, nice
07:28:31 <nsh> yeah, gorgeous weather here
07:28:38 <nsh> same in the uk though, i suppose
07:28:53 <nsh> except it doesn't get dark here. so it's pretty much nice twenty-four hours a day
07:29:17 <_ulises> cool cool cool
07:29:23 <_ulises> last 3 days have been awesome
07:29:37 <_ulises> today, however, it's a completely different story ... at least up here :/
07:42:36 <nsh> stormy?
07:43:17 <_ulises> more like misty, grey and miserable
07:43:24 <_ulises> MISERABLE
07:47:39 <Ficthe> he's 22, by the way, not 16
07:47:53 <Ficthe> but with progenia, I assume his body age is around 65
07:48:30 <Ficthe> sadly, given his conditions severity, he probably won't make it 24 :( anyway
07:48:53 <nsh> unless the power of gangsta rap is stronger than that of misshaped nuclei
07:49:02 <nsh> which i have faith in
07:49:11 <nsh> misshapen, even
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09:23:22 <sbp> yo
09:23:23 <phenny> sbp: 00:41Z <Morbus> tell sbp that metaplace is in open beta now.
09:23:26 <sbp> <nsh> how the fuck do you lose a plane with two hundred people on it in this day and age
09:23:30 <sbp> yeah, I've been wondering that
09:23:43 <cre8radix> heya
09:24:14 <sbp> yo cre8... weird
09:24:20 <sbp> according to my client you're NOT EVEN HERE
09:24:36 <Ficthe> xchat? same here o.0
09:25:00 <sbp> oh good, so it's not just me?
09:25:05 <Ficthe> I suppose.
09:25:12 <Ficthe> I think we've got ourselves a witch
09:25:16 * Ficthe gets the torch
09:25:21 <sbp> wait, see if it floats!
09:25:44 <Ficthe> first we must measure her. Who has a duck?
09:26:26 <sbp> no ducks here, only unladen swallows I'm afraid
09:26:40 <Ficthe> do they float?
09:28:24 <Charles> An African or a European swallow?
09:31:36 <realist> cre8radix: isn't on my /names list either (irssi)
09:32:09 <realist> network de-synced?
09:37:55 <_ulises> yo sbp
10:26:06 <sbp> yo _ulises
10:26:15 <_ulises> yoyo
10:40:37 <sbp> “In the days before elastic you were likely to arrive at the finish line five minutes before your costume did.” — http://timesonline.typepad.com/timesarchive/2009/06/last-word-in-sexy-swimwear-but-where-to-put-the-barcode.html
10:44:17 <_ulises> "Your obedient servant, AGAMEMNON"
10:46:31 <sbp> yeah, heh
10:46:35 <sbp> phenny: tell [bjoern] http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45854000/gif/_45854666_mp_poll3_466.gif
10:46:36 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
10:47:33 <sbp> phenny: tell [bjoern] and http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45854000/gif/_45854683_mp_poll1_466.gif which is baffling
10:47:34 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when [bjoern] is around.
10:53:05 <sbp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm
10:53:13 <sbp> funny how they switch from numbers to words there
10:53:16 <sbp> 2, Two, One...
10:56:28 <Morbus> sbp: sup.
10:56:33 <Morbus> so, fiddled with metaplace last night.
10:56:40 <Morbus> it's a bit different than i imagined.
10:56:51 <Morbus> i'm "only" level 4. but, hey, I met Raph
10:56:57 <Morbus> and he gave me a balloon.
10:56:58 <sbp> yo Morb
10:57:03 <sbp> oh, cool
10:57:07 <sbp> have you built anything yet?
10:57:07 <Morbus> but, i deally, you just go around to created rooms and click shit.
10:57:16 <Morbus> there /are/ some games on it, but nothing too exciting. mostly tech demos, it seems.
10:57:19 <Morbus> no, i haven't built anything yet.
10:57:27 <sbp> yeah, makes sense given how early it is
10:57:28 <Morbus> i will eventually.
10:57:35 <sbp> does it look like you can build good things?
10:57:55 <Morbus> no idea really. the worlds i've been to have been pretty decently detailed.
10:58:08 <Morbus> (sims 3 comes out today; yay)
10:58:16 <sbp> but it's no LBP?
10:58:33 <Morbus> no idea. i played LBP for an hour and haven't been back.
10:58:42 <sbp> hehe. that good eh?
10:58:52 <sbp> I thought people were drooling over it left right and centre
10:59:02 <Morbus> i think nslater and jsled are.
10:59:12 <Morbus> but, yeah, that's the general populace for LBP: drooling.
10:59:18 <sbp> ha!
11:00:02 <sbp> phenny: tell nsh “Their work may be aided by the Airbus's Argos beacons, which will emit signals for several days, he added.” — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8078147.stm
11:00:03 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
11:00:10 <sbp> .wik Argos beacon
11:00:12 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Argos beacon".
11:02:50 <sbp> .title http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/06/from_taleban_to_taliban.html
11:02:51 <phenny> sbp: BBC - The Editors: From 'Taleban' to 'Taliban'
11:05:16 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8078294.stm
11:05:18 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | UK | Obama wants Queen at D-Day event
11:08:02 <sbp> phenny: tell nsh http://www.lpi.ac-poitiers.fr/doc/aps/albatros/uk/pages/argos.html - so if the plane has Argos beacons (plural), why can't they pick them up?
11:08:02 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nsh is around.
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11:10:56 <nsh> .
11:10:56 <phenny> nsh: 11:00Z <sbp> tell nsh “Their work may be aided by the Airbus's Argos beacons, which will emit signals for several days, he added.” — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8078147.stm
11:10:59 <phenny> nsh: 11:08Z <sbp> tell nsh http://www.lpi.ac-poitiers.fr/doc/aps/albatros/uk/pages/argos.html - so if the plane has Argos beacons (plural), why can't they pick them up?
11:11:26 <[bjoern]> nu
11:11:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: 10:46Z <sbp> tell [bjoern] http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45854000/gif/_45854666_mp_poll3_466.gif
11:11:27 <nsh> alien interference one would conclude
11:11:29 <phenny> [bjoern]: 10:47Z <sbp> tell [bjoern] and http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45854000/gif/_45854683_mp_poll1_466.gif which is baffling
11:11:33 <[bjoern]> someone's been busy.
11:11:54 <nsh> sbp: TAFT-FACTOR ELEVENS
11:12:18 <[bjoern]> Well perhaps some read "their own" as "what they think is best"
11:12:32 <[bjoern]> the first one is nice though
11:15:52 <nsh> sbp: "At this altitude the satellite can receive signals from all the beacons within a 5,000 km diameter circle from the surface of the Earth.
11:15:52 <nsh> Depending on the latitude of the beacon, its position may be recorded 7 times a day at the equator or 28 times at the poles. "
11:18:20 <nsh> "With a power of ¼ W they can send signals to a satellite 2,500 km away. "
11:18:22 <nsh> impressive
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11:22:37 <sbp> all the beacons within a 5,000 km diameter circle
11:22:50 <sbp> ...but not the ones that were/are on this plane
11:23:05 <sbp> "Rescuers narrow search to a few kilometres"
11:23:28 <sbp> "Reports that some wreckage has been spotted"
11:28:48 <sbp> “Penguin poo reveals new colonies / Scientists find 10 new emperor penguin colonies in Antarctic using satellite images of patches of guano” — The Guardian
11:30:15 <sbp> nsh: woah, read this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/cia-drones-tribesmen-taliban-pakistan
11:30:54 <sbp> the CIA are allegedly paying tribesmen to plant microchips around the homes of Taleban (er, Taliban) in Pakistan, and then they send out drones to bomb the microchipped locations
11:44:48 <sbp> “Brown insisted Darling was doing a good job, but twice referred to his ­chancellorship in the past tense, and rejected repeated offers to state that Darling was not going to be moved.” — http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/02/darling-hoon-expenses-reshuffle
11:45:45 <sbp> “Some ministers also said yesterday it would be "catastrophic" for Balls to be given the job since he had been at the Treasury for 10 years and had already admitted errors over the regulation of the City during his period as a minister.”
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12:02:38 <sbp> “They [the Lib Dems] want a zero carbon economy by 2050 – in principle. But they have opposed windfarm proposals in Cornwall, Cumbria, Devon and Worcestershire.” — http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/jun/02/lib-dems-steal-green-votes
12:02:52 <sbp> I'm not sure how putting up whacking great big windfarms all over the place is environmentally friendly
12:04:39 <sbp> also, to an extent this lady just seems to be saying "the Greens have a better environmental policy than the Liberal Democrats". which, well, isn't *entirely* surprising now is it?
12:04:49 <sbp> but what about finance, health, crime, etc.?
12:06:38 <sbp> strange comment: “Perhaps they ought to all wear green knickers ! Or better yet in this long hot summer no knickers at all.”
12:13:11 <sbp> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/jun/02/benny-goodman-carnegie-hall-jazz
12:13:13 <phenny> sbp: 50 great moments in jazz: Benny Goodman at Carnegie Hall, 1938 | Music | guardian.co.uk
12:13:22 <sbp> phenny: tell Arnia http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/02/ukip-european-elections-eu
12:13:23 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Arnia is around.
12:14:48 <sbp> phenny: tell nslater http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/dalai-lama-osel-hita-torres
12:14:49 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when nslater is around.
12:17:15 <sbp> ...Spector twitters from his prison cell: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5427201/Phil-Spector-complains-about-prison-confiscating-his-wig-on-Twitter.html
12:21:44 <[bjoern]> oh my, next assignment seems to be making a XMLHttpRequest based web chat
12:22:18 <[bjoern]> provided code pains me
12:22:23 <sbp> oh dear. if only you had a channel's worth of idiots to test it for you
12:22:36 <sbp> hmm!
12:22:40 <sbp> Jacqui Smith to step down!
12:22:44 <sbp> breaking news!
12:27:39 <[bjoern]> oh my god, it's based on a wishful thinking http modifications
12:28:12 <[bjoern]> turning http in some twisted broadcast protocol
12:28:19 <[bjoern]> and then hope xhr might just cope
12:29:07 <[bjoern]> if the client POSTs a zero length body, the server is supposed to wait
12:29:23 <[bjoern]> until some other "connected" client posts actual chat messages
12:29:35 <[bjoern]> then it delivers responses to the "blocked" clients
12:30:32 <[bjoern]> then again that's implementable in ten minutes...
12:30:57 <[bjoern]> oh teh horrors
12:32:25 <Arnia> Ah yes, Comet
12:32:26 <phenny> Arnia: 12:13Z <sbp> tell Arnia http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/02/ukip-european-elections-eu
12:32:48 * Arnia thinks browsers should just support XMPP as a Javascript exposed protocol
12:33:12 <Arnia> rather than all these hellish tricks to make HTTP into a persistent connection
12:35:21 <[bjoern]> There is the IETF hybi mailing list for that...
12:36:21 * Arnia continues to follow the Wave discussion
12:37:44 <realist> "* Arnia thinks browsers should just support XMPP as a Javascript exposed protocol" +1
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12:42:24 <Arnia> Too many uses for XHR are for accomplishing bi-directional communications
12:42:31 * Arnia grumbles
12:43:17 * Arnia imagines a magicink-influenced UI for dealing with waves
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12:46:19 <[bjoern]> mibbit to ya soon
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13:16:14 <_bjoern> You are all idlers
13:21:43 <Morbus> funniest facebook message of the day:
13:21:43 <Morbus> [[[
13:21:44 <Morbus> Jamie completed the quiz "6 Impossible Questions" with the result Genius!.
13:21:44 <Morbus> Your a Genius! (If you needed to read this to figure out what that is, now your dumb).
13:21:45 <Morbus> ]]]
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13:28:48 <_bjoern> Your a genius?
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13:31:58 <Morbus> yep.
13:32:00 <Morbus> and then repeated.
13:32:05 <Morbus> now your dumb
13:32:13 <_bjoern> I am very bored.
13:32:18 <sbp> don't be bored
13:32:20 <sbp> be TECHNICAL
13:32:20 <Morbus> i;m waiting for the sims 3 to be delivered
13:32:35 <_bjoern> The chathorror is being explained to me
13:32:49 * sbp notes the big hour or so chunk when he commented on all the things of interest of the day
13:32:52 <_bjoern> including phrases like "Web 2.0 magic"
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13:33:10 <_bjoern> you spent an hour discussing both things?
13:33:11 <sbp> as usual there weren't really any, but I made the best of what there was
13:33:18 <Morbus> almost finished level 3 on Captain.
13:33:27 <Morbus> sbp: oh, hey, if you get the bonus for First Mate, please tell me what it is.
13:33:36 <Morbus> sbp: i'm wondering if they fixed the bug that only showed ONUS%.
13:34:03 <_bjoern> .gcs "ONUS%" "ANUS%"
13:34:05 <phenny> "ANUS%" (2,430,000), "ONUS%" (684,000)
13:34:10 <_bjoern> this bored I am
13:34:21 <Morbus> hrm.
13:34:24 <Morbus> according to http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=16421175101&topic=12290
13:34:29 <Morbus> First Mate is +5% Plunder bonus
13:34:33 <Morbus> which i am *definitely* not getting.
13:35:10 <sbp> okay, will do
13:35:18 <sbp> oh. hmm
13:35:23 <sbp> maybe you should complain
13:35:29 <sbp> "I want my 5% Plunder bonus!"
13:35:34 <Morbus> yeah, i'm looking to who i complain too ;)
13:36:06 <_bjoern> Perhaps you behaved insufficiently piratesque and don't deserve it.
13:36:58 <Morbus> ah, there it is. way in the lower left.
13:37:07 <Morbus> and it doesn't work.
13:37:13 <Morbus> it flashes a box up then sends me back to my apps.
13:37:13 <Morbus> wtf.
13:38:06 <sbp> the Bruno/Eminem thing is now said to have been staged
13:38:15 <sbp> which, to me, actually makes it more impressive
13:38:15 <Morbus> what thing?
13:38:33 <sbp> Morbus: Cohen's latest creation, Bruno, at MTV award. hang on, will find video
13:39:50 <sbp> Morbus: http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/eminem/news/122823-watch-bruno-eminem-at-mtv-movie-awards
13:42:22 <Morbus> yeah, that looks staged to me.
13:47:09 <sbp> the main thing is that Eminem isn't smiling when Bruno is directly overhead
13:47:19 <sbp> whereas everybody around him (including presumably his retinue) are
13:47:35 <Morbus> well, yeah, but the whole point is that eminem has had a history of homophobia. purportedly.
13:47:43 <sbp> ahh, interesting
13:47:43 <Morbus> so he wouldn't smile at the obviously guy Bruno skit anyways.
13:48:02 <Morbus> that's *why* this, to me, looks so obviously staged.
13:48:30 <Morbus> the fact that eminmem was right there, that the guy in the row in front of him seemed to *push* Bruno into him, that, magically, there was a camera angle on those steps, etc.
13:48:52 <Morbus> that out of all the audience members, he just /ahppened/ to land on the phobe, etc.
13:48:54 <Ficthe> besides, doesn't eminem rely on his 'street cred' to be held a certain way in order to keep his fanbase? if it was staged, he's in fear of being called a homosexual, if he wasn't, he wasn't humiliated
13:49:07 <Ficthe> s/wasn't/was
13:51:33 <Morbus> sbp: welp, i sent in a note to support about it :D
13:53:00 <Morbus> goddamit.
13:53:00 <Morbus> sbp: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=16421175101&topic=12290#topic_top
13:53:07 <Morbus> looks like everyone's getting it. i didn't see the page 2 link.
13:53:08 * Morbus sighs.
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14:01:18 <sbp> Morbus: okay, mastering First Mate
14:06:45 <sbp> ‘Sources say Smith standing down "for her family"’
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14:17:07 <sbp> what!
14:17:09 <sbp> Morbus:
14:17:09 <sbp> [[[
14:17:10 <sbp> Congratulations! You have mastered the plunder "Fight the Plague Crew of the Flying Dutchman", for your reward you have gained 1 skill point.
14:17:10 <sbp> You have mastered all of the level 1 "First Mate" plunders earning the title of "First Mate". You have unlocked level 2 plunder mastery for this stage.
14:17:10 <sbp> Complete level 3 plunder mastery for this stage to receive a special bonus!
14:17:12 <sbp> ]]]
14:17:24 <Morbus> yeah, you have to complete level 3, fool.
14:17:56 <sbp> sheesh
14:18:31 <_bjoern> my web server got accepted, w000000000t...
14:18:43 <_bjoern> I am so totally excited and not bored
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14:19:20 <_bjoern> libby walked the plank.
14:22:11 <_bjoern> well lets see if they let me leave...
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15:09:32 <[bjoern]> yo
15:11:28 <[bjoern]> loggy: pointer?
15:11:28 <loggy> http://swhack.com/logs/2009-06-02#T15-11-28
15:14:00 <[bjoern]> Tired of your neighbour? A little cip can make all the difference.
15:14:45 <[bjoern]> no knickers is not the worst of ideas.
15:15:06 <[bjoern]> any thoughts on who we should vote for in the coming election?
15:15:55 <[bjoern]> well news scroll mostly worthless so far
15:23:26 <sbp> no knickers: depends on the politician, presumably
15:23:44 <sbp> it looks like we can all vote for that blue and gold woman's party, by the way
15:23:54 <sbp> I saw somewhere, Guardian I think, that it's the first pan-European party
15:24:04 <[bjoern]> .wik EU election 2009
15:24:06 <phenny> "Elections to the European Parliament will be held in the 27 member states of the European Union (EU) between 4 and 7 June 2009." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2009
15:24:13 <sbp> now whether it's a good idea to vote for a blue and gold woman or not is another matter
15:24:18 <[bjoern]> when are you voting?
15:24:21 <sbp> 4th
15:24:29 <[bjoern]> We go 7th
15:24:52 <sbp> we ought to get an early-bird vote boost multiplier reward
15:25:02 <sbp> 1.1x voting potency
15:25:05 <[bjoern]> we always vote on sundays. Voting on weekdays is primarily so your run of the mill workers have trouble voting.
15:26:01 <[bjoern]> it's not like the european parliament has much say over anything anyway
15:26:15 <sbp> does it have any say over whether Europe can go to war?
15:27:24 <[bjoern]> They might give speeches demanding the commission release its declaration of war so we know who we are fighting.
15:28:06 <[bjoern]> You get to appoint fewer than last time apparently
15:29:40 <[bjoern]> "The party's main platform is the introduction of Esperanto as the official language of the EU in order to promote linguistic unity in the union." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_%E2%80%93_Democracy_%E2%80%93_Esperanto
15:29:52 <[bjoern]> "Political ideology: Linguistic democracy"
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15:37:02 <[bjoern]> totally easy to find information who i can vote for
15:39:15 <[bjoern]> We have Kommunalwahlen at the same time here
15:39:35 <[bjoern]> I wonder if that'll change participation; apparently 2004 we had 35%
15:39:48 <[bjoern]> which is -5.9% compared to 1999
15:43:00 <[bjoern]> first link on http://europa.eu/index_de.htm is "Commission reports on latest achievements"
15:43:51 <[bjoern]> there does not appear to be any mention of elections
15:44:02 <[bjoern]> not on the parliament subpage either
15:44:23 * [bjoern] tries http://www.europarl.europa.eu/
15:44:32 <[bjoern]> there we got something
15:46:13 <[bjoern]> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/elections2009/twitter/default.htm;?language=DE
15:46:41 <[bjoern]> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=EuropeanParliament&view=playlists
15:47:02 <sbp> why doesn't it say who's posting these things?
15:47:20 <[bjoern]> Would you want your name on it?
15:47:25 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Die Wahl rückt immer näher, somit werden die einzelnen EU-Mitgliedsstaaten Listen mit den Namen der Kandidaten veröffentlichen. Die Links für Österreich und Deutschland finden Sie in Kürze über die Links unten."?
15:47:26 <phenny> [bjoern]: "The election is drawing ever closer, so will the individual EU member states lists with the names of candidates public. The links for Austria and Germany will soon be available via the links below." (de to en, translate.google.com)
15:47:35 <[bjoern]> (they are not)
15:48:32 * [bjoern] tries http://www.europarl.de/export/index.html
15:49:04 <[bjoern]> news entry #1 there informs about the election party
15:49:19 <[bjoern]> news entry #2 which social networks the election is on
15:49:47 <[bjoern]> news entry #3 is a youtube clip, with someone asking in parliament for people to vote
15:50:12 <[bjoern]> news entry #3 is titled "YOUrope needs YOU"
15:50:21 <[bjoern]> 5 i mean
15:51:42 <[bjoern]> so finally got to http://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/de/europawahlen/EU_BUND_09/wahlbewerber/ our federal election office
15:52:09 <[bjoern]> their information is not very useful
15:52:36 <[bjoern]> .img Banse, Laura Luise
15:52:37 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://operachic.typepad.com/opera_chic/images/2007/11/16/orlandone.jpg
15:52:38 <phenny> More here: http://images.google.com/images?q=Banse%2C%20Laura%20Luise
15:53:05 <[bjoern]> born 84, student, she is running apparently, but no pix?
15:53:47 <[bjoern]> http://www.wahl.de/sites/default/files/imagecache/politiker_mittel/laura%20bansen.jpg
15:54:27 <sbp> what information are you looking for exactly?
15:54:33 <sbp> trying to find out who to vote for?
15:55:00 <[bjoern]> Ideally I'd like a copy of what papers I'll smear explicatives on.
15:57:09 <kpreid> HELLO
15:57:33 <kpreid> I HAVE A STATEMENT
15:58:19 <[bjoern]> Sharing with others would make your statement less valuable.
15:59:26 <kpreid> If you don't mind, I'll test that theory...
15:59:28 <kpreid> IT IS THIS:
15:59:31 <[bjoern]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBFWjuRrIYg is scary
15:59:36 <sbp> .title
15:59:38 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - European Elections TV Spot - French version
15:59:43 <sbp> sounds it!
15:59:51 <kpreid> Go play the Braid demo. It is clever.
15:59:54 <kpreid> END
16:00:08 <[bjoern]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnBFAW8xo2s has ukian subtitles
16:00:32 <sbp> it was worse than it sounded
16:00:40 <sbp> except for the cute (Spanish?) girl at the end
16:01:04 <[bjoern]> there was a cute girl?
16:01:10 <sbp> wait what
16:01:14 <sbp> sheesh, this one is different
16:01:21 <sbp> and French, I think
16:01:26 <sbp> but they subtitled in French
16:01:28 <sbp> hence confusion
16:01:45 <sbp> President Pöttering?
16:01:49 <sbp> .wik President Pöttering's
16:01:51 <phenny> "Hans-Gert Pöttering (often written as Poettering; born 15 September 1945 in Bersenbrück, Lower Saxony) is a German conservative politician (CDU, European People's Party), and has been President of the European Parliament since January 2007." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Gert_P%C3%B6ttering
16:02:06 <sbp> President Pöttering
16:02:47 <[bjoern]> there kinda was indeed
16:03:44 <[bjoern]> german version is worse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rqy7nvbgRQ (only the first last part are different apparently)
16:04:05 <sbp> woah, yes
16:04:23 <[bjoern]> worse yet if you understood the text
16:04:34 <sbp> .leo wahl
16:04:36 <phenny> alternative = die Wahl, andere Wahl
16:04:37 <phenny> ballot (pol.) = die Wahl, geheime Wahl
16:04:38 <phenny> choice = die Wahl
16:04:38 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=wahl
16:08:23 <sbp> hmm
16:08:31 <sbp> thinking about it, Rocket 88 probably was the first rock 'n' roll song
16:08:41 <sbp> it has everything, and nothing before it has everything
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16:12:49 <sbp> if I had to make a case for another, I'd say Crazy Man, Crazy because it was the first song *written* as a rock 'n' roll song. Rocket 88 and Rock the Joint had both been rock 'n' roll covers of proto-rock songs
16:18:05 <[bjoern]> remind me in 10 minutes to !
16:18:09 <sbp> k
16:24:02 <sbp> then again, Saturday Night Fish Fry was pretty close. hmm
16:27:00 <sbp> and that would fit with what Chuck Berry says about things too, that Louis Jordan was first
16:27:05 <sbp> well, the first that Berry heard
16:27:16 <[bjoern]> Now you need to find reason that would crush all but one of the alternatives.
16:27:23 <[bjoern]> (or make some up)
16:27:32 <sbp> heh, heh
16:27:37 <sbp> well I've got to choose one first
16:27:50 <sbp> [bjoern]: you ought to !
16:28:33 <[bjoern]> I will do !! in about 4 min
16:28:48 <sbp> as long as you did !
16:28:53 <[bjoern]> then there better be better entertainment options available
16:29:17 <[bjoern]> of course I did !, what fool do you think I am not to do ! before !!
16:31:29 <sbp> hmm, the original Rock the Joint is there too actually
16:31:39 <sbp> but Saturday Night Fish Fry was earlier anyway
16:31:52 <sbp> ah! actually, no it wasn't
16:31:55 <sbp> just a few months out
16:32:40 <[bjoern]> I would not be surprised if vatican archives chronicle earlier emergance of rock.
16:33:08 <sbp> hehe
16:33:18 <sbp> only problem with Rock the Joint is: no guitar
16:33:32 <sbp> a lot of screaming and standard sax lines and backbeat and thumping bass line though
16:33:38 <[bjoern]> .leo Oboe
16:33:40 <phenny> die Oboe = oboe (mus.), hautboy also: hautbois archaic (mus.)
16:33:40 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Oboe
16:33:50 <[bjoern]> .leo Haut
16:33:51 <sbp> Saturday Night Fish Fry is smoother, and has an obvious rock guitar break on it
16:33:52 <phenny> Haut... = cutaneous a., dermal a.
16:33:53 <phenny> die Haut = dermis, film (tech.), hide, integument, membrane
16:33:54 <phenny> die Haut - Pl. die Häute = skin
16:33:55 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Haut
16:35:04 <[bjoern]> (not pronounced obö mind you)
16:35:55 <sbp> four minutes is long past up by the way
16:36:00 <sbp> I hope you !!d after you !d
16:36:10 <[bjoern]> "Rep. Iscoe warns gays will give penises to lesbians who will give them vaginas so that homosexuals can marry and continue their attack on the American family." - http://www.theonion.com/content/video/conservatives_warn_quick_sex?utm_source=a-section
16:36:19 <[bjoern]> I am in the process of !!ing.
16:36:41 <[bjoern]> Gut Ding will Weile haben.
16:37:15 <sbp> hmm. what about haemaphodites?
16:38:02 <[bjoern]> they mostly attack their language
16:38:04 <clsn> People who have sex with blood?
16:39:24 <[bjoern]> Will proceed to !!1 in less than four minutes.
16:40:20 <sbp> oh yeah, herm. heh
16:41:00 <clsn> For you of all people that's pretty shameful, sbp.
16:41:28 <[bjoern]> phro.
16:44:13 <sbp> clsn: are you implying I have a thing for hermaphrodites?
16:44:20 <sbp> hmm, Green Tree Boogie is an odd song
16:44:32 <sbp> also I just figured it was some weird vestigial etymological thing
16:45:33 <[bjoern]> apparently you have no thing against them, that works
16:46:30 <sbp> ah, Sundown Boogie is really starting to develop the sounds
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16:47:20 <[bjoern]> perhaps people prefer the mysterie, we also don't know exactly when sex and drugs started.
16:48:52 <clsn> No, implying that your command of English is such that one does not expect such a mistake. And maybe you do, at that.
16:49:02 <sbp> well it's nice to listen to the songs at least
16:49:17 <sbp> also I forgot Real Rock Drive was earlier than Crazy, Man, Crazy
16:49:20 <[bjoern]> perhaps it was intentional to make himself appear more human.
16:49:44 <[bjoern]> or to imply he's never heard or thought about such things.
16:52:45 <sbp> nah, I don't remember orthographies very well
16:52:48 <sbp> mainly phonologies
16:52:57 <sbp> which is why I often confuse "a" and "e" and so on if the sound is a schwa
16:53:18 <[bjoern]> you can also tell the fake story about the macified windows keyboard again
16:53:26 <sbp> actually this was an example of reconstituted-schwa-problem too
16:53:37 <sbp> totally not fake
16:53:47 <sbp> I can have a picture made of it and everything
16:54:53 <[bjoern]> d8uv will get right on it
16:55:36 <sbp> I need d8uv to explain Google Wave to me
16:56:07 <[bjoern]> Nice 0x10 there to legitimize your claims.
16:58:39 <sbp> nice that you had to tell me
16:58:53 <sbp> anyway, I think you're making the 0x10s up
16:59:07 <sbp> I can't see 'em, so how come you can?
16:59:43 <[bjoern]> my client is made of fail and has no glyphs for the char.
16:59:44 <sbp> it's just a ploy to make me feel bad about my keyboard
16:59:59 <[bjoern]> that too
16:59:59 <sbp> mine doesn't seem to have one either... :-)
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17:07:32 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/guant_aacute_namo_detainee?utm_source=b-section
17:07:33 <phenny> [bjoern]: Guantánamo Detainee Ruled Not Mentally Fit To Testify About Psychological Torture | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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17:25:00 <[bjoern]> .gc "penis burka"
17:25:01 <phenny> "penis burka": 3
17:41:24 <[bjoern]> hmm I seem to have forgotten about http://xkcd.com/246/
17:43:32 <sbp> and that's just the way in!
17:43:47 <[bjoern]> see the alt text
17:44:13 * nsh considers having another go at the hard one
17:44:17 <[bjoern]> oh it's title nowadays
17:44:35 <nsh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hardest_logic_puzzle_ever
17:47:48 <[bjoern]> If they are hot you could ask all three if they want to make out.
17:48:14 <sbp> oh sweet, I preëmpted the alt text
17:49:17 <sbp> nsh: the answer's on the page
17:49:41 <sbp> "yeah, but that won't help me when somebody sets an incredibly hard logic problem for me out of some old forgotten text book the next time I want my hair cut"
17:49:50 <sbp> good point, hypothetical-nsh
17:52:19 <sbp> heh, there's a programme on tonight called DANGER MEN: RED ARROWS
17:52:23 <sbp> inaccurate title now
17:52:33 <sbp> DANGER MEN AND WOMAN: RED ARROWS
17:52:37 <sbp> would be accurate
17:53:07 <[bjoern]> There is also a section on exploding god heads.
17:53:18 <sbp> in the programme?
17:53:43 <[bjoern]> I do not know where they explode
17:53:53 <[bjoern]> .title
17:53:54 <phenny> Can't connect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hardest_logic_puzzle_ever
17:53:55 <[bjoern]> there
17:53:59 <[bjoern]> and fail
17:55:24 <sbp> better to have the URI than the title
17:55:27 <sbp> failwin
18:07:48 <MoiraA> hello sbp
18:10:37 <sbp> hi MoiraA
18:15:47 <MoiraA> it seems ages since we talked sbp
18:15:56 <sbp> yeah!
18:16:02 <sbp> what's up?
18:21:42 <[bjoern]> We need a shared real time online drawing board.
18:22:02 <[bjoern]> Guess how many words I added to that after I thought it's clear already.
18:22:16 <sbp> everything after need
18:27:03 <[bjoern]> No
18:27:18 <[bjoern]> Would anyone remind me why we have to type /wiki/ at wikipedia?
18:30:19 <deltab> [bjoern]: because it has other non-wiki resources too, such as stylesheets?
18:31:00 <deltab> it's just the way they have it configured
18:31:10 <sbp> because they're stupid
18:31:42 <kpreid> the reason for the /wiki/ vs. /w/ distinction is so that they can robots-exclude /w/ which is all edit-forms, past versions, ...
18:31:55 <[bjoern]> My question was a /wiki/ vs
18:32:19 <kpreid> /wiki vs / -- well, there is some value in having a namespace which you have not previously handed over to your users...
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18:32:37 <kpreid> They would have to rename the wiki article on robots.txt :-)
18:33:30 <[bjoern]> That is an insightful point.
18:34:02 <[bjoern]> Now i can flame anyone proposing robotstxtesque extensions.
18:34:23 <kpreid> good plan!
18:34:43 <sbp> no, the article on robots.txt is at Robots.txt of course
18:34:47 <sbp> and robots.txt is at robots.txt
18:34:49 <kpreid> I believe there's a "crossdomain.xml" to direct ones' attentions to
18:36:12 <[bjoern]> It's funny but once the W3C suggested that should be done by GET ing the resource in question with special headers, check the headers, and then GET it again
18:36:46 <[bjoern]> because someone couldn't figure out how to configure perl scripts responding to OPTIONS on ancient apache versions on dreamhost
18:52:50 <deltab> and not from conceptual dogmatism?
18:53:12 <deltab> (not quite the words I wanted, but hopefully you get the idea)
19:49:48 <MoiraA> ah that's interesting
19:49:56 <MoiraA> just reading sbp ;)
19:50:25 <MoiraA> need to close and reopen limechat
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20:36:06 <[bjoern]> yo
20:37:03 <sbp> yo
20:37:12 <[bjoern]> how's things
20:39:51 <[bjoern]> I heard you smack fonzy biggles.
20:39:56 <cre8radix> [bjoern]: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,628017,00.html
20:40:05 <cre8radix> .title
20:40:07 <phenny> cre8radix: Streit um Internet-Filter: Die Generation C64 schlägt zurück - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Netzwelt
20:40:32 <cre8radix> kinda long but nice
20:42:04 <[bjoern]> 10 GOTO STREET
20:42:34 <sbp> if I smacked fonzy biggles, jenny biggles would no longer go out with me
20:42:40 <sbp> so that's very unlikely
20:43:19 <[bjoern]> But I heard you.
20:47:26 <[bjoern]> .gs Last time I was this bored I *
20:47:27 <phenny> [bjoern]: took (10), took hostages (9), took prisoners (2), ended (2)
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20:48:15 <[bjoern]> "über die angeblich verblödenden Effekte von Handys, YouTube, StudiVZ und Videospielen."
20:48:18 <[bjoern]> how do they mean "angeblich"?
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20:48:32 <chris2_> supposedly
20:48:55 <[bjoern]> Das war nicht wirklich die Frage...
20:49:41 <chris2_> sondern?
20:50:57 <cre8radix> re:torish
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20:52:41 <[bjoern]> .g youtube was sind jetzt nochmal Browser
20:52:42 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmWgzANKTE
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22:45:00 <Arnia> I think I (indirectly) have the answer to my Wave question: http://www.waveprotocol.org/whitepapers/wave-protocol-verification
22:45:01 <phenny> Arnia: 14:36Z <nslater> tell Arnia http://bitworking.org/news/431/wave-first-thoughts
22:45:02 <phenny> Arnia: 19:11Z <_ulises> tell Arnia I think we underestimated the complexity of configuring compass :/
22:45:30 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://orz.4chan.org/hr/src/1243889543443.jpg
22:45:31 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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22:56:54 <Ficthe> .gc "This" "that"
22:56:56 <phenny> "This" "that": 803,000,000
22:57:02 <Ficthe> how are the two delimited?
22:57:08 <Ficthe> .gc "This","that"
22:57:09 <phenny> "This","that": 803,000,000
22:57:10 <[bjoern]> .gcs this that
22:57:11 <phenny> this (712,000,000), that (499,000,000)
22:57:15 <Ficthe> Ahhh, thank you.
23:14:16 <Arnia> nslater: I have posted a comment on the post
23:35:12 <tav> nslater: there?