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00:02:10 <nslater> http://twitter.com/nk/status/2147483649
00:02:13 <nslater> .title
00:02:14 <phenny> nslater: Twitter / Nick Kallen: The Tweets must flow. http ...
00:02:33 <nslater> ^^ above is the first tweet to hit the 32 bit signed integer limit
00:02:53 <nslater> 10 minutes ago. expect all third party apps to now fail
00:03:44 <[bjoern]> why store it as int?
00:03:55 <nslater> because programmers are lazy, very lazy
00:04:05 <[bjoern]> strings would be lazier in most languages?
00:04:21 <nslater> it depends what tools/api/libs you use
00:04:46 <nslater> anyway, it's speculation at this point. perhaps all the twitter client devs used strings, but i bet some of them didnt
00:06:31 <nslater> Nightly Swhack Keep You HEALTHY, BRIGHT EYED, & SLIM
00:06:34 <nslater> damn
00:06:37 *** nslater changed the topic to: "Nightly Swhack Keep You HEALTHY, BRIGHT EYED, & SLIM"
00:07:09 <MoiraA> nslater
00:07:18 <MoiraA> join my sims fan page?
00:07:33 <MoiraA> I am currently trying to skype with someone but we have no sound :(
00:08:09 <nslater> cf. http://www.yorkstories.co.uk/themes/painted_wall_ads.htm
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04:14:41 <MoiraA> skwerl!!
04:14:51 <MoiraA> nslater ?
04:15:31 <skwerl> hey Moira, how you been hon?
04:15:42 <MoiraA> well, suffering with my RA
04:15:57 <MoiraA> but now I'm just about to have an operation which ought to help
04:16:04 <MoiraA> and better drugs for it
04:16:11 <MoiraA> I'm good otherwise
04:16:12 <MoiraA> straight
04:16:15 <skwerl> ouchies, well I hope it helps you a lot
04:16:36 <MoiraA> left the world of being crazy wasted behind ages ago
04:16:53 <MoiraA> how are you?
04:17:03 <MoiraA> say hi to magic for me
04:17:15 <skwerl> mm I shall do when I see him next
04:17:35 <skwerl> and I'm well, lost my job months ago, laid off due to no one was buying cars
04:17:38 <MoiraA> I have had a hard 18 months tbh
04:17:42 <MoiraA> happening to me too
04:17:49 <MoiraA> as of now
04:18:21 <MoiraA> I've been in court twice, got a case against an insurance company at arbitration and fought for every sodding thing
04:20:46 <skwerl> ugh, no fun at all
06:02:44 <nsh> .wik Scientific prayer
06:02:46 <phenny> "Affirmative prayer is a form of prayer or metaphysical technique that is focused on a positive outcome rather than a negative situation." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_prayer
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06:02:58 <nsh> WHUT
06:07:16 <MoiraA> haha
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06:24:45 <nsh> MoiraA why are you taking your insurance company to court?
06:25:00 <MoiraA> because they refuse to pay out
06:27:17 <nsh> ah, give em hell then
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07:18:09 <[bjoern]> countdown
07:18:09 <Monty> One large one and five small numbers: 75, 9, 8, 4, 9, 3. Your target is 540. You have thirty seconds, tick, tock, tick, tock...
07:18:23 <[bjoern]> .c 8*(75-3)
07:18:24 <phenny> 8 * (75 - 3) = 576
07:18:25 <Monty> Now I certainly know this in private for not much chance to xhtml11: <div class="paragraph"><p>Hello <strong>World</strong>!</p></div>
07:18:36 <[bjoern]> Don't confuse me Monty
07:18:38 <Monty> You want to cuddle perfume, apparently.
07:18:40 <Monty> Duh dum, duh dum, duh-da-da-dum! Your 30 seconds are up!
07:18:41 <Monty> I found a solution in approximately 31 milliseconds. I found all 114 solutions in about 156 milliseconds.
07:18:43 <Monty> ibot (8*3 - 9)*4*9
07:18:43 <phenny> ((8 * 3) - 9) * 4 * 9 = 540
07:25:06 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
07:25:06 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
07:50:30 <[bjoern]> remind me in 6 minutes to it is done
07:50:31 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Sat Jun 13 08:56:33 BST 2009
07:56:42 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to it is done
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08:46:03 <sbp> .gc yarnstorming
08:46:03 <phenny> sbp: 12 Jun 23:39Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/5513461/Pictures-of-the-day-12-June-2009.html
08:46:05 <phenny> sbp: 12 Jun 23:48Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp also http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/12/a-boy-claims-he-was-hit-by-a-meteorite/
08:46:06 <phenny> yarnstorming: 23,700
08:46:07 <phenny> sbp: 07:25Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
08:47:56 <sbp> .wik Yarnstorming
08:47:58 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Yarnstorming".
08:48:02 <sbp> .wik Yarnstorm
08:48:04 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Yarnstorm".
08:48:20 <[bjoern]> ITS NOT A WORD! (<25000)
08:48:31 <[bjoern]> Yostorm.
08:49:38 <sbp> “I suspect that, if we take the crater and all that at face value, it hit the ground first and then he was hit by shrapnel.” — sounds more plausible
08:49:42 <sbp> yostorm
08:49:55 <[bjoern]> You know how I feel about wind.
08:50:15 <sbp> “However, my friend the Dutch science writer Govert Schilling talked to Kortem who is claiming he never saw the meteorite and was misquoted. Interesting.” — hmm!
08:50:18 <sbp> yeah
08:50:51 <[bjoern]> there is also the claim in the comments that this is the same boy that did some other bogus meteorite thing a year ago
08:51:15 <sbp> yeah, just got to “This is the same damn boy who, one year ago, claimed he corrected NASA on the risk of an asteroid impact.”
08:51:33 <[bjoern]> Could not confirm that in the ten seconds I tried though
08:51:48 <sbp> does http://www.derwesten.de/nachrichten/staedte/essen/2009/6/9/news-122286237/detail.html say anything different from the English media?
08:51:52 <sbp> (that was the original story)
08:52:19 <[bjoern]> it uses words I never heard before
08:52:27 <[bjoern]> angeschreut in this case
08:53:14 <[bjoern]> sounds less bogus than the britifications
08:53:30 <[bjoern]> but not much additional substance
08:54:27 <sbp> .leo angeschreut
08:54:29 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=angeschreut
08:54:32 <sbp> leo neither
08:55:17 <sbp> the “crater” is an odd shape
08:55:19 <[bjoern]> there is scheuern, schreien, scheuen, ... but not schreuen...
08:55:22 <sbp> http://www.derwesten.de/static/nachrichten/7504/12446324455230/53712916_23923142_display.jpg
08:55:40 <sbp> oh, that kind of never heard of it before...
08:56:12 <[bjoern]> http://www.krauselig.de/pages/woerterbuch.php has it though
08:56:25 <[bjoern]> among the dozen of google hits, many of whcih are article copies
08:57:35 <[bjoern]> .gc boobyguard
08:57:36 <phenny> boobyguard: 490
09:00:45 <sbp> what did they mean it to mean?
09:02:04 <[bjoern]> .leo ansengen
09:02:05 <phenny> scorching (tech.) = das Ansengen
09:02:06 <phenny> ansengen | sengte an, angesengt | = to scorch | scorched, scorched |
09:02:07 <phenny> etw.Akk. ansengen | sengte an, angesengt | = to singe sth.
09:02:08 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=ansengen
09:02:13 <[bjoern]> that's close
09:06:22 <[bjoern]> angeschrammt I'd also have understood
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09:46:44 <[bjoern]> .gc skirtless
09:46:45 <phenny> skirtless: 3,870
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10:36:22 <[bjoern]> .gcs shirtless skirtless
10:36:22 <phenny> shirtless (4,070,000), skirtless (3,870)
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11:27:51 <cre8radix> heya
11:28:35 <xover> Why? What've you heard?
11:29:29 <[bjoern]> You better heard nothing. It's almost Bildungsstreik week.
11:33:02 <cre8radix> :D
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12:03:35 <sbp> Red Arrows over Buckingham Palace
12:03:39 <sbp> rather British
12:05:39 <[bjoern]> "04⇒99 Click Here 04⇐99"?
12:05:43 <cre8radix> hey sbp
12:06:11 <cre8radix> hallo [bjoern]
12:06:16 <cre8radix> :)
12:06:25 <[bjoern]> loggy still borkne
12:07:13 <cre8radix> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,630246,00.html
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12:42:59 <[bjoern]> Did you know that, if youtube used Ogg Theora to deliver comparable (to current) quality, it would consume all internet bandwidth?
12:44:16 <MoiraA> really?
12:44:53 <MoiraA> ogg as in video for everyone?
12:57:36 <sbp> anybody know what's going on here?
12:57:38 <sbp> $ echo example > example.txt
12:57:38 <sbp> $ tar -cjf example.tar.bz2 example.txt
12:57:38 <sbp> $ tar -tjf example.tar.bz2
12:57:38 <sbp> example.txt
12:57:38 <sbp> $ echo example2 > example2.txt
12:57:40 <sbp> $ tar -rjf example.tar.bz2 example2.txt
12:57:42 <sbp> zsh: abort tar -rjf example.tar.bz2 example2.txt
12:58:20 <MoiraA> haven't a clue sbp
12:58:24 <sbp> all I can think of is that -r and -j might be incompatible
12:58:32 <sbp> but why is it just saying "abort"?
12:58:35 <MoiraA> where is it happening - irc?
12:58:37 <sbp> and why is zsh saying that?
12:58:40 <nslater> heya
12:58:44 <sbp> hey nslater
12:58:50 <MoiraA> hi nslater
12:59:28 <MoiraA> nslater I survived asking a question in macdev
12:59:46 <nslater> I don't think I've ever been in macdev, MoiraA
13:00:01 <MoiraA> well which of your channels banned me before?
13:00:54 <nslater> none.
13:01:32 <nslater> the only public channel I run is #couchdb
13:01:52 <sbp> hmm, there's nothing in the manual about -j being incompatible with -r
13:01:55 <sbp> or vice versa
13:03:21 <MoiraA> it was you who referred to it nslater
13:03:28 <nslater> nope!
13:04:15 <sbp> heh, this doesn't work either:
13:04:16 <MoiraA> yes
13:04:22 <sbp> $ tar -cjf example2.tar.bz2 example2.txt
13:04:23 <sbp> $ tar -Ajf example.tar.bz2 example2.tar.bz2
13:04:23 <sbp> zsh: abort tar -Ajf example.tar.bz2 example2.tar.bz2
13:04:26 <nslater> seriously, no :)
13:04:31 <MoiraA> seriously yes
13:04:42 <nslater> whatever, then
13:04:43 <MoiraA> vbut let sbp sort his issue
13:04:58 <sbp> if Swhack can't answer, I dunno who to ask really
13:05:07 <sbp> a Darwin mailing list or something perhaps? hmm
13:05:25 <nslater> Use the Source, Luke!
13:05:40 <MoiraA> sv
13:05:56 <MoiraA> *sbp I will find an answer for you
13:06:13 <sbp> MoiraA: thanks if you can
13:06:20 <sbp> wow, the manual hasn't been updated since December 23, 2000
13:06:41 <MoiraA> clearly on the ball this lot
13:06:58 <MoiraA> sbp it may have to be tomorrow as I'm going to my dad's shortly
13:07:03 <MoiraA> staying overnight
13:07:11 <MoiraA> watching crickeet
13:07:22 <MoiraA> but I shall have a quick try
13:09:45 <sbp> gah, the only tar I can find on opensource.apple.com is gnutar
13:10:08 <sbp> ah!
13:10:13 <sbp> I do have gnutar
13:10:16 <sbp> but the manual is BSD tar
13:14:30 <sbp> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/gnutar/gnutar-433.3/gnutar/doc/tar.info doesn't seem to say that they're incompatible
13:14:45 <MoiraA> I think it may be a tar bug, I have someone who is using it trying
13:14:51 <MoiraA> trying it out
13:15:29 <MoiraA> [14:15] <MTughan> Yeah, abort trap, so reports bash...
13:17:22 <MoiraA> sbp, the consensus is that -r doesn't work if you've compressed the tarfile
13:17:47 <sbp> yeah, I know that
13:17:49 <sbp> but why?
13:17:54 <sbp> is it by design, or is it a bug?
13:17:56 <MoiraA> maybe file a bug report
13:17:58 <sbp> the manual doesn't say
13:18:02 <MoiraA> not by design anyway
13:18:10 <sbp> hmm, okay
13:18:14 <sbp> thanks!
13:18:17 <MoiraA> if you join defocus in fact, mquin and mthughes are there discussing it
13:19:01 <MoiraA> [14:17] <Tblue> Still, it shouldn't abort() but display an error message
13:24:02 <sbp> sent
13:28:45 <MoiraA> sbp there is a more recent manual
13:29:15 <MoiraA> [14:28] <MTughan> Mine was last updated October 2004.
13:34:37 <MoiraA> comes with Darwin 9.7.0 here.
13:34:40 <MoiraA> -here
13:36:34 <sbp> no, mine's diplaying the BSD manual
13:36:39 <sbp> so something's wrong about that
13:36:44 <sbp> might be a DarwinPorts manual
13:36:55 <sbp> er, MacPorts as it is now
13:43:00 <MoiraA> [14:41] <MTughan> MacPorts has 1.22 available.
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13:44:29 <MoiraA> you have guitar sbp?
13:45:24 <sbp> hmm?
13:47:45 <MoiraA> [14:43] <MTughan> http://gnutar.darwinports.com/
13:47:51 <MoiraA> you can get a manual there
13:47:54 <MoiraA> more up to date
13:48:15 <sbp> I'm building it from source instead using this:
13:48:16 <sbp> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-1.22.tar.bz2
13:48:16 <MoiraA> erm, darwin more up to date even
13:48:21 <MoiraA> ah
13:48:25 <sbp> (I don't really like using ports)
13:49:22 <[bjoern]> (He's just saying that for legal reasons)
13:49:26 <MoiraA> you'd do better to come in the channel
13:49:34 <MoiraA> talk to mquin and MTHughes live
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13:49:43 <Monty> bah, it's w00t69 again
13:52:12 <MoiraA> MacPorts builds from source sbp
13:52:25 <sbp> I know, but I don't like MacPorts
13:52:31 <MoiraA> ah
13:52:37 <MoiraA> nor #defocus :)
13:52:44 <sbp> yeah, it's pretty crud
13:52:56 <MoiraA> actually he might come here
13:53:03 <sbp> I'm trying to phase it out of my workflow
13:53:26 <MoiraA> he is coming here
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13:53:41 <MoiraA> thanks a million MTughan
13:53:52 <sbp> hi MTughan, welcome to Swhack
13:53:52 <MoiraA> sbp, this guy has been doing his best to help
13:53:56 <sbp> this is a publically logged channel
13:54:00 <MTughan> That's fine.
13:54:02 <sbp> cool. thanks for that
13:54:11 * MoiraA will let the two of you chat
13:54:17 <MoiraA> I need to get over to dad's anyway
13:54:22 <sbp> enjoy
13:54:23 <[bjoern]> MTughan, it hurts when I little school girls. What should I do?
13:54:26 <[bjoern]> Ok.
13:54:35 <MoiraA> [bjoern]
13:54:39 <MoiraA> !!
13:54:43 <MTughan> Little ain't a verb. ;)
13:55:01 <sbp> perhaps he meant: belittle
13:55:27 <[bjoern]> apparently RFC 2616 just got 10.
13:55:32 <MoiraA> sorry to ask you to come here instead of vice versa MTughan but sbp finds defocus a bit crud
13:55:43 <MoiraA> with some justification
13:55:48 <MTughan> Anyway, apparently you're building the latest tar from source because you don't trust MacPorts?
13:56:09 <sbp> I don't trust MacPorts, but that's not the reason I'm building from source
13:56:17 <sbp> I'm building from source because I don't *like* MacPorts
13:56:21 <sbp> and I'm trying to phase it out of my workflow
13:57:05 <sbp> $ ./tar --version
13:57:05 <sbp> tar (GNU tar) 1.22
13:57:09 <sbp> let's see if this works then...
13:57:22 <MTughan> I've found it useful for the occasional program I'd like. Eg, wget.
13:57:50 <MTughan> But I have to build from source if I'm building a library for distribution. Allows me to fine tune configurations.
13:57:56 <sbp> wget is very easy to build from source
13:58:09 <MTughan> I bet it is.
13:58:25 <MTughan> The rote unpack, configure, make, make install?
13:58:54 <sbp> exactly. so basically I figured that if I'm only using packages where I do ./configure --prefix=blahblah && make && make install, I might as well just build from source
13:59:03 <sbp> and a friend suggested to use ~/packages/name as the prefix
13:59:17 <sbp> so when you want to get rid of a package, you just do rm -rf ~/packages/name
13:59:19 <sbp> all very simple
13:59:20 <MTughan> Means you don't need to sudo make install.
13:59:23 <sbp> aye
13:59:31 <sbp> the only drawback is you need to maintain a list of binaries yourself
13:59:42 <MTughan> Or update your .bash_profile.
13:59:47 <sbp> so for example I just had to do this in ~/bin:
13:59:48 <sbp> $ ln -fish ~/packages/tar/bin/tar
13:59:54 <sbp> yeah, but easier maintaining a dir really
14:00:04 <sbp> so for example you can use ls to see if any symlinks are dangling
14:00:09 <sbp> which you couldn't do in your bash profile
14:00:41 <MTughan> If you use .bash_profile to update $PATH, you don't have to deal with symlinks.
14:00:45 <sbp> I'm quite happy so far. this is what I've installed in ~/packages:
14:00:47 <sbp> 3.9M advancecomp
14:00:47 <sbp> 33M ffmpeg
14:00:48 <sbp> 37M git
14:00:48 <sbp> 0B imagemagick
14:00:48 <sbp> 1.5M lynx
14:00:48 <sbp> 208K optipng
14:00:50 <sbp> 59M perl5.10
14:00:52 <sbp> 89M python2.6.2
14:00:54 <sbp> 72M python3.0.1
14:00:56 <sbp> 0B subversion
14:00:58 <sbp> 1.7M tar
14:01:00 <sbp> 512K wget
14:01:05 <sbp> as you can see imagemagick and subversion didn't succeed
14:01:16 <[bjoern]> You accidentally a whole python.
14:01:27 <sbp> bewhole
14:01:34 <[bjoern]> Thank you.
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14:01:47 <MTughan> What OS are you running? MoiraA said GNU-Darwin.
14:01:56 <sbp> OS X 10.4.11
14:02:18 <MTughan> Little older then... 10.5.7 here.
14:03:44 <[bjoern]> Yes, he's cheaping out the update.
14:03:54 <sbp> yup
14:03:59 <sbp> actually I need to find out about that
14:04:07 <sbp> I have a Tiger system and a Leopard system
14:04:10 <MTughan> About Snow Leopard pricing?
14:04:19 <sbp> I'm migrating from one to the other, but will probably still be using the Tiger system
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14:04:29 <sbp> so... when Snow Leopard comes out, I've got rather a question
14:04:39 <sbp> because I want to scratch install on the Leopard system
14:04:46 <sbp> and preferably want to upgrade the Tiger system
14:04:46 <Monty> we've always get written any query the radio
14:04:53 <sbp> I guess I'll have to get the family pack?
14:04:55 <sbp> I don't really know
14:05:01 <[bjoern]> WATCH THIS:
14:05:25 <MTughan> Well, one family pack would be cheaper than one license at the $29 and $49 price points Apple announced at WWDC.
14:05:37 <MTughan> two licenses*
14:06:00 <sbp> yes, but I'm also wondering about the scratch thing
14:06:05 <sbp> because those points are for upgrade
14:06:13 <sbp> of course I have Leopard, but I want to scratch install on that
14:06:19 <sbp> and yet I do want to upgrade the Tiger system
14:06:22 <sbp> so, hmm!
14:06:29 <sbp> they only mentioned lower prices for upgrade from Leopard
14:06:35 <sbp> which I don't want to do on either system
14:06:36 <sbp> heh
14:06:43 <sbp> but I do *have* Leopard...
14:07:04 <MTughan> I only have one Mac. Can't afford another.
14:07:13 * MTughan is a student
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14:10:20 <sbp> yeah, I had to put up with rubbish for many years too
14:10:30 <sbp> where rubbish = Windows | Linux
14:11:05 <MTughan> I have two other computers... Would love to put OS X on them.
14:12:22 <sbp> ah, here we go:
14:12:23 <sbp> $ tar -rjf example.tar.bz2 example2.txt
14:12:23 <sbp> tar: Cannot update compressed archives
14:12:23 <sbp> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
14:12:27 <sbp> using the latest tar. oh well
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14:33:25 <MoiraA> MTughan I can help with that
14:33:33 <MoiraA> I have a disc with the patch needed
14:51:59 <sbp> chuckle. BBC Click made a piece about Apple
14:52:09 <sbp> and it included some mention of the rumourmill etc.
14:52:15 <sbp> they showed it to Apple to get comment
14:52:27 <sbp> but Apple said no, and that if the BBC ran it it would "sour" their relationship
14:52:50 <sbp> so at the end they added what Apple said, and said "we don't know what this means, but we suppose we'll find out"
14:52:54 <sbp> BBC++
14:53:55 <xover> Given how Apple never tells the media anything whatsoever, I really don't get why any media organization would at all care whether their relationship woth Apple was “sour” or not.
14:54:20 <sbp> and that's pretty much what the piece was about
14:54:54 <xover> Maybe if doing hardware reviews is your thing, harder access to demo units may count, but that's a vanishingly small segment of the media.
14:55:48 <xover> And as I recall, Apple doesn't send out demo units before they're available to the general public (modulo pre-announced products).
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16:37:36 * sbp tries building imagemagick
16:37:48 <sbp> I think I didn't proceed because I figured there'd be interference from /opt stuff
16:37:52 <sbp> but, doesn't really matter
16:38:17 <sbp> hmm, yeah, it's using /opt's libxml and libxml2
16:38:31 <sbp> pretty annoying
16:38:50 <Morbus> sbp!
16:38:55 <Morbus> i'm going afk. but i need something from you.
16:38:57 <sbp> yo
16:38:59 <Morbus> so phenny tell me your suggestions.
16:39:03 <sbp> kk
16:39:14 <Morbus> i need the name of an invented card game, within ghyll, that ghyllians use to resolve disputes.
16:39:18 <sbp> ooh
16:39:29 <Morbus> and, no, /me coughs, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. http://feast-or-fa.mine.nu:325/~morbus/test2.html
16:39:30 * Morbus coughs.
16:40:11 <sbp> I've taken a good look at this to confirm that it has nothing to do with this
16:40:23 <sbp> that to this even
16:40:30 <Morbus> excellent.
16:40:34 <sbp> stupid deixis
16:40:43 <sbp> okay, I'll try to come up with stuff
16:40:50 <sbp> anything more I should know to name it?
16:40:54 <Morbus> (in world, the ghyllians themselves only play with the solid color rectangle; the text to the right of it is part of the Earth game only
16:40:55 <Morbus> )
16:41:04 <sbp> ah, okay
16:41:08 <sbp> NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
16:41:13 <Morbus> RIGHT
16:41:19 <sbp> (that about the title bar?)
16:41:36 <Morbus> title bar is for humans too - i'm imagining an uno-like sorta game, only more complex.
16:41:50 <sbp> okay. so the ghyllians are presumed to memorise the numbers/pictures?
16:42:03 <Morbus> no, they have physical cards and decks.
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16:42:14 <Morbus> and draw a "hand", per se.
16:42:21 <Morbus> and have a goal number to start with.
16:42:31 <Morbus> so, like, we might fight and start with 300 life.
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16:42:43 <Morbus> and we play the rectangular things, from our hand/deck, trying to get the other guy down to 0 first.
16:43:18 <sbp> and whoever does that wins the dispute?
16:43:37 <Morbus> yeah
16:43:43 <Morbus> it's like a people's court sorta thing.
16:43:46 <Morbus> dunno if you know people's court.
16:43:47 <sbp> heh, heh
16:43:50 <sbp> nope
16:43:55 <sbp> .wik People's court
16:43:56 <phenny> "The courts in the judicial system of many communist countries, like local people's courts of the People's Republic of China , Vietnamese People's Court" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_court
16:43:57 <Morbus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People%27s_Court
16:44:40 <sbp> ‘Llewelyn would often end each episode with a jaunty "Don't take the law into your own hands: you take 'em to court." which became something of a 1980s catch phrase.’
16:44:49 <Morbus> the first show - the longest running - had this great theme music that became pysnonmous with the show.
16:45:42 <Morbus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZqYK0RpP34
16:45:48 <Morbus> you can hear it there.
16:46:50 <Morbus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return <-- shared to me in response to the midlife post.
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18:16:52 <[bjoern]> nuyo
18:19:27 <sbp> ¿¿¿¿¿
18:19:47 <[bjoern]> onegirlfivecups?
18:20:07 <sbp> thems ain't no cups
18:20:19 <sbp> thems is inverted questionerinos
18:20:26 <sbp> .u ¿
18:20:26 <phenny> U+00BF INVERTED QUESTION MARK (¿)
18:20:27 <Monty> "you"
18:20:29 <sbp> nu
18:20:45 <[bjoern]> You mean symbols for questionerinos.
18:21:01 <sbp> I'll have to defer to Monty at this point
18:21:05 <Monty> memcached should try figuring this much it easy -- by couchdb on Fri and use go - irc?
18:21:13 <[bjoern]> You don't have to, you just want to.
18:21:17 <sbp> yeah
18:21:31 <sbp> now, did I have to want to, or did I want to have to?
18:21:47 <sbp> I'm currently rsyncing my /opt to a usb drive
18:21:47 <[bjoern]> You had to want to.
18:21:57 <sbp> because I want to try compiling ImageMagick without /opt
18:22:09 <sbp> it's taken about 1:25 so far
18:22:10 <Morbus> phenny: tell sbp i'd love to get your opinion on the proposed display itself too - this is a first draft.
18:22:10 <phenny> Morbus: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
18:22:10 <sbp> hours:mins
18:22:12 <phenny> sbp: 18:22Z <Morbus> tell sbp i'd love to get your opinion on the proposed display itself too - this is a first draft.
18:22:17 <sbp> kk
18:23:14 <[bjoern]> not much happen on internet while gone.
18:23:20 <sbp> nope
18:23:27 <sbp> I've been rsyncing
18:23:38 <sbp> everybody else has been sipping piña coladas on the moon
18:24:02 <[bjoern]> You've been at the 0x10 schnapps again.
18:24:25 <sbp> I wonder if I could get znc to filter it or something...
18:24:41 <sbp> or remap the key
18:24:52 <sbp> why does it even type 0x10 anyway?
18:25:02 <sbp> not the most useful character
18:25:43 <[bjoern]> A ps/2 table or usb keyboard spec might give a clue
18:25:53 <sbp> usb
18:33:14 <Morbus> sbp: http://feast-or-fa.mine.nu:325/~morbus/test2.html
18:33:19 <Morbus> a clearer example.
18:33:27 <Morbus> mouse over one of the colored rectangles.
18:33:36 <Morbus> and you'll see it collapse to "just" what ghyllians actually play with
18:33:51 <Morbus> over/out.
18:33:55 <Morbus> my js is wrong, so it's broken
18:33:58 <Morbus> .but you'll get the idea ;)
18:34:31 <Morbus> i think i'll end up doing a hovertip or something instead... for the collapsed view.
18:34:41 <Morbus> i don't like the fact that you can't copy the text this way.
18:35:21 <sbp> er... yeah, it's broken I think
18:35:26 <sbp> I see what you mean though
18:35:30 <sbp> is it just going to be the number?
18:35:34 <sbp> are there no pix?
18:35:36 <Morbus> nope, no pix.
18:35:48 <Morbus> i know no artists, nor have any money, nor can draw myself
18:36:00 <Morbus> neither did the makers of uno.
18:36:02 * Morbus grins.
18:37:37 <sbp> fair enough
18:37:47 <sbp> not even any symbols or anything?
18:37:54 <Morbus> not intended, nope.
18:38:02 <Morbus> don't see a huge need for it really
18:38:12 <Morbus> there are words for each effect, which when hovered would explain what it does.
18:38:19 <Morbus> (damage, poison, recover, heal, leech, etc.)
18:38:31 <sbp> well I was just wondering how the ghyllians would get along with it
18:38:42 <sbp> if the humans need the extra stuff, why don't the ghyllians?
18:38:55 <Morbus> the extra stuff is telling a meta story about the ghyllians.
18:39:04 <Morbus> it has little baring on the game itself.
18:39:07 <sbp> ah
18:39:09 <Morbus> *bearing
18:39:20 <Morbus> though, you do bring up a good point.
18:39:30 <Morbus> there are card tags, and some abilities may eventually trigger based on tags.
18:39:49 <Morbus> but, in cases like that, i would just explain it away as "internet based approximations", etc.
18:39:58 <Morbus> i'm not intended to do a photo-perfect recreation of the actual ghyll game.
18:40:05 <Morbus> as they get to sit down and choose from their hands and stuff.
18:40:08 <Morbus> and that's not happening for humans.
18:40:23 <sbp> sure
18:40:43 <[bjoern]> Apparently the 134.5 billion dollars seized from two japanese in italy (http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15505&size=A) are mostly genuine, and italy might get 40% of the value.
18:41:04 <[bjoern]> I'd also like to apply for maybe 0.1% ...
18:41:38 <sbp> .c 0.1% of 134.5 billion
18:41:39 <phenny> 0.1% of 134.5 billion = 134 500 000
18:41:55 <sbp> dollars, though
18:42:26 <[bjoern]> Yes, otherwise I might have gone with 1/100th of that.
18:42:40 <sbp> yeah
18:47:10 <Morbus> i got an invite into the closed beta of the new free-to-play version of D&D Online (DDO)
18:48:32 <sbp> just got it, or have you tried it yet?
18:51:00 <[bjoern]> .gc dudes'n'dongs
18:51:01 <phenny> dudes'n'dongs: 0
18:54:23 <Morbus> well, what's funny is that i had heard about it going free a few days ago.
18:54:35 <Morbus> so i tried the 10 day free trial of the *old version* to see if it's something i'd care about.
18:54:45 <Morbus> that was Thursday. Friday morning, I got the invite into the closed beta.
18:55:00 <Morbus> i guess they figured they wanted me to try the new shit, and not the old shit, if i was a New User.
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18:55:18 <Morbus> http://www.ddo.com/ btw
18:57:01 <Morbus> ah.
18:57:07 <Morbus> apparently, they sent out invites to all active subscribers.
18:57:18 <Morbus> and, apparently they consider the 10 day free trial of the old version an "active" thingy.
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20:02:06 <[bjoern]> .gs every time I think I had enough I *
20:02:08 <phenny> [bjoern]: no results
20:02:11 <[bjoern]> .gs every time I think I had enough *
20:02:12 <phenny> [bjoern]: of sm cuz)
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20:04:53 <deltab> sbp: BBC2
20:05:24 <deltab> the testosterone-fuelled HIGNFY
20:08:08 <[bjoern]> He might prefer œstrogen fuel.
20:08:08 <Monty> DAMN
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20:21:21 <sbp> ocrap, missed it
20:21:24 <sbp> will have to iPlayer
20:22:27 <deltab> it's a good 'un
20:22:59 <[bjoern]> Monty and sbp sitting in a tree...
20:23:03 <Monty> Zebedee's familiar ROM chips wants Judge Judy's skipping nutcrackers...?
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21:17:13 <xover> .title http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3580
21:17:14 <phenny> xover: AnandTech: Apple's 2009 MacBook Pro: Battery Life to Die For
21:17:39 <xover> Anandtech going gaga over the new Macbook Pros.
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21:32:50 <deltab> http://twilio.typepad.com/.a/6a0105364227ca970b01157002cfc3970c-800wi
21:34:00 <[bjoern]> I changed yesterday's next function so the most significant digit comes at the end, ending up with (for base 10)
21:34:01 <[bjoern]> next :: [Int] -> [Int]
21:34:01 <[bjoern]> next [] = [1]
21:34:01 <[bjoern]> next (x:xs) = if x < 9 then (x + 1):xs else 0:(next xs)
21:38:36 <[bjoern]> Trying to make that operate on arbitrary enumerated types now...
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22:38:57 <procto> .o wa why did the chicken cross the road?
22:39:00 <phenny> Why did the chicken cross the road?;To get to the other side.
22:39:23 <procto> .o wa how many angles can dance on the head of a pin?
22:39:26 <phenny> Couldn't handle your query. Suggestions: Names: the head Units: a pin
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