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01:06:02 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-lewis/wheres-the-gold_b_216896.html
01:06:02 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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01:35:26 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm
01:35:26 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
01:41:19 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/mar/24/penis-drawing-roof-google has the better headline
01:41:19 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
01:45:13 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8119653.stm
01:45:13 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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08:43:47 <Monty> howdy, shepazu
09:08:59 <Charl> .ety blivet
09:09:00 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "blivet". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=blivet
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09:29:43 <sbp> yo
09:29:43 <phenny> sbp: 01:06Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-lewis/wheres-the-gold_b_216896.html
09:29:45 <phenny> sbp: 01:35Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm
09:29:47 <phenny> sbp: 01:41Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/mar/24/penis-drawing-roof-google has the better headline
09:29:48 <phenny> sbp: 01:45Z <[bjoern]> tell sbp http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8119653.stm
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09:30:15 <_ulises> yo sbpmangdood
09:30:46 <sbp> 'ello
09:30:48 <sbp> what up?
09:31:32 <_ulises> nae much, how's yous doing? did you but the magazine after all?
09:32:53 <sbp> oh, not yet
09:33:52 <_ulises> yeah, I'm thinking of subscribing myself
09:34:03 <_ulises> the only thing that's stopping me is that I cannot recycle them
09:34:19 <_ulises> same goes for milk tetra-brixs :(
09:34:34 <sbp> [[[
09:34:35 <sbp> All's right in the world of Futbol: no player on the U.S. side would
09:34:35 <sbp> qualify to even sit on the Brasil bench and when in the second half
09:34:35 <sbp> of the game the one-on-one skills of the Brazilians was made evident
09:34:35 <sbp> and it was revealed that we were no longer watching a "contest", but
09:34:35 <sbp> an "exhibition" it was clear that Americans better focus on something
09:34:37 <sbp> at which we excel, like self-delusion.
09:34:39 <sbp> ]]] — William Loughborough
09:34:47 <sbp> I watched the first 25 minutes or so
09:34:52 <sbp> when USA went 1-0 up
09:34:56 <sbp> and then watched Top Gear
09:35:17 <sbp> then I had a bet about what the score would be
09:35:26 <sbp> I said 2-1. turned it over... 2-1! brilliant
09:35:34 <sbp> and then, slowly, the horror dawned on me
09:35:45 <sbp> and I think I actually screamed when I realised it was USA 2-1 Brazil
09:35:55 <sbp> then literally a minute later, Brazil scored
09:36:05 <sbp> and I ran up to the TV and went \㋡/ YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
09:36:31 <sbp> and of course the result was splendid
09:36:41 <_ulises> how did I miss that? :(
09:39:49 <sbp> man, xkcd is getting annoying
09:39:59 <sbp> BE MOAR FUNNY
09:50:52 <[bjoern]> k
09:56:46 <sbp> b: yo
09:57:14 <[bjoern]> p: yo
10:02:52 <sbp> we spend 69p per household (or person?) on the Royal Family, apparently
10:03:19 <[bjoern]> naughty
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10:36:53 <nsh> sbp
10:36:55 <nsh> what's hap>
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11:25:57 <nsh> lol
11:26:04 <nsh> David Cameron used the word "tricksy"
11:26:15 <nsh> [[[
11:26:16 <nsh> "Then there was the tax cut budget that wasn't a tax cut. That was a deeply tricksy piece of politics.
11:26:16 <nsh> "At the end of the day the truth will out. The prime minister is calculating that the public are too stupid to notice it. I have much more respect for the public than that."
11:26:24 <nsh> ]]] -http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/29/cameron-personal-attack-brown
11:26:51 <nsh> [[[
11:26:52 <nsh> Asked whether he was prepared to go into the next election with the Conservative party proposing public spending cuts and the government pledging to increase spending, Cameron replied: "I don't care what the government does any more. They can set out whatever they want. Set the whole thing to music and do a karaoke. I have lost faith in a prime minister who stands up and says black is white. We will make our own decisions about what's right for the country."
11:26:56 <nsh> ]]] -ibidities
11:26:57 <nsh> ++
11:39:59 <procto> sbp: 60p per household per month? per yera?
11:40:03 <procto> err, 69
11:45:45 <nsh> procto, per year
11:45:47 <nsh> .o wa population of united kingdom
11:46:00 <phenny> Error fetching URI.
11:46:11 <nsh> .o wa population of united kingdom
11:46:13 <phenny> United Kingdom->population;60.8 million people (2007 estimate);population->60.8 million people (world rank: 22nd), population density->651 people/mi^2 (people per square mile) (world rank: 51st), population growth->0.317%per year (world rank: 181st), life expectancy->79 years (world rank: 37th), median age->39.9 years (world rank: 26th); ~~ ( 0.0
11:46:35 <nsh> .c 60.8 million / 2.51 * 0.69
11:46:35 <[bjoern]> .o wa number of germans
11:46:35 <phenny> (60.8 million / 2.51) * 0.69 = 16 713 944.2
11:46:39 <phenny> Germans (English word);european->a person of German nationality, west germanic language->the standard German language; developed historically from West Germanic, (2 meanings);Classical Latin, (first recorded use: 1530 (479 years ago));west germanic language->German language -> High German;Armin -> Arminius -> Bavarian -> Berliner -> Boche -> East
11:47:07 <nsh> 2.51 is the average size of household in 2001 census
11:47:11 <nsh> i assume it's probably about the same
11:47:22 <nsh> rounding up, royal family costs 17 million pounds per year
11:47:25 <nsh> which isn't bad really
11:47:28 <[bjoern]> two blokes and their butler.
11:47:46 <nsh> of course, they own shitloads of land and probably make hoards from that
11:48:02 <nsh> i think prince charles earns over 17 million per year from his duchy alone
11:48:16 <[bjoern]> they could always monetise their crown jewels like the rest of us.
11:48:59 <nsh> oh no, just 9mil
11:49:02 <nsh> "Prince Charles received £9.9m from the Duchy of Cornwall - compared to £7.8m over the previous 12 months."
11:49:02 <Monty> yay
11:49:04 <nsh> -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3030722.stm
11:49:13 <nsh> [bjoern]++
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11:51:38 <nsh> heh: "The Duchy - which dates back to 1337 - provides..."
11:52:02 <nsh> Prince Charles: Pwning ur lands since 1337
11:52:12 <[bjoern]> .c 0x1337 in decimal
11:52:12 <Monty> gswain: store user db but we're all these types of using monotonically increasing document ids makes things in say, i ams ?
11:52:13 <phenny> 0x1337 = 4919
11:52:24 <[bjoern]> .c 0o1337 in decimal
11:52:25 <phenny> 0o1337 = 735
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12:05:58 <[bjoern]> good pix on http://www.greenpeace.de/themen/atomkraft/nachrichten/artikel/protest_auf_dem_atomkraftwerk_unterweser/ansicht/bild/
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12:32:04 <Monty> it's ephemerian!
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13:03:45 <Monty> yo MacTed!
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14:25:42 <sbp> number of Germans
14:26:14 <sbp> [bjoern]: England vs. Germany U21 final today, I think
14:26:15 <[bjoern]> We should elect one perhaps.
14:26:22 <[bjoern]> I told you so.
14:27:18 <[bjoern]> 20:45 some time.
14:27:27 <sbp> only on the radio here, I think
14:27:29 <[bjoern]> your time
14:27:43 <[bjoern]> no wait, +02:00 is my time
14:28:02 <sbp> as long as it's not USAtime, I don't mind
14:28:06 <[bjoern]> I would not know, but let me check anyway...
14:28:23 <sbp> “Referee: Bjorn Kuipers (Netherlands)”
14:28:33 <sbp> Bjoerns are getting everywhere
14:28:46 <sbp> though a suspicious lack of diaeresis on this one
14:29:12 <[bjoern]> http://de.uefa.com/competitions/under21/standings/index.html has a live stream apparently
14:29:27 <[bjoern]> ~ http://en.uefa.com/competitions/under21/standings/index.html
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14:30:33 <[bjoern]> we played 1:1 on the 22nd apparently
14:31:21 <[bjoern]> were in the same group, you won the group
14:31:52 <sbp> ooh
14:32:03 <[bjoern]> we will kick a german ball.
14:32:05 <sbp> not that that means anything at all really
14:32:15 <sbp> oh yeah? where was it made? Frankfurt?
14:32:20 <sbp> Munich?
14:32:24 <[bjoern]> "The ball is bright blue and yellow, the colours of the Swedish flag. It features 12 watermarks including one containing a map of Europe and one of the tournament logo. It consists of 14 panels joined with special thermal technology; this allows the ball to travel with greater accuracy and swerve. The Terrapass follows in a long line of Adidas footballs made for all major UEFA and FIFA competitions"
14:32:26 <sbp> NO WAIT DON'T TELL ME
14:32:31 <sbp> Dresden?
14:32:46 <sbp> .map Adidas factory
14:32:47 <phenny> sbp: the .map command has been removed; ask sbp for details
14:32:47 <[bjoern]> their hq is in Herzogenaurach
14:32:54 <[bjoern]> selfpwn
14:32:56 <sbp> ah! of course! Herzogenaurach!
14:32:58 <sbp> yeah
14:33:09 <sbp> though of course it didn't do what I wanted it to do anyway
14:33:18 <sbp> at no point was that an implemented functionality
14:34:43 <[bjoern]> I doubt we'll find out where exactly and truthfully they made the balls.
14:35:48 <[bjoern]> nice formatting at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_UEFA_European_Under-21_Football_Championship#Goalscorers
14:36:15 <[bjoern]> (english country name sorting, apparently)
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14:37:59 <sbp> .g where do they make UEFA's balls?
14:38:00 <phenny> sbp: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=649491
14:38:25 <sbp> it seems to have found that article because it's by a man named Phil Ball
14:38:39 <sbp> yet another glorious demonstration of how rubbish Google is getting
14:38:43 <[bjoern]> Google needs a third button next to feeling lucky.
14:38:50 <sbp> hehe, oh?
14:39:57 <[bjoern]> We'd turn the button into a .fail command
14:42:23 <sbp> a Google Destruct button might work
14:42:36 <sbp> if Google went the way of GM, that would be pretty interesting
14:42:59 <sbp> oh man
14:43:09 <sbp> I think Virgin should go into the search engine business
14:43:17 <sbp> then you could use Virgin Search
14:44:45 <sbp> “PM: Will bring forward plans for elected second chamber”
14:44:49 <sbp> — BBC News caption
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14:46:02 <sbp> Speaker Bercow looks comfy in his new chair
14:46:10 <sbp> must be his size that gives that impression
14:50:31 <sbp> wow, Micah Richards is U21?
14:50:40 <sbp> he plays in our full team too, and he's pretty good
14:59:18 <[bjoern]> I SHALL VENTURE OUTSIDE THE MOMENT AFTER THIS ONE.
15:00:23 <sbp> .yi
15:00:23 <phenny> Not yet...
15:00:27 <sbp> go ahead
15:00:32 <sbp> no need to partai whilst you do it
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15:26:51 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8089811.stm
15:26:54 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | UK | Obscene stories or free speech?
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15:34:50 <sbp> Madoff got 150 years
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16:08:50 <laplink> .title http://raim.codingfarm.de/blog/2009/01/21/x-chat-aqua-for-mac-os-x/
16:08:53 <phenny> laplink: Raim » X-Chat Aqua for Mac OS X
16:09:14 <laplink> No listed changes, but starts up much faster and has a pretty new icon.
16:13:17 <sbp> woah, a new version?! no way
16:14:40 <laplink> Unofficial, third-party, build.
16:15:17 <laplink> Just the newer compiler and libraries should net you some benefits; but allegedly it's based on a newer X-Chat engine version too (but I aven't checked).
16:15:50 <sbp> .head http://raim.codingfarm.de/downloads/xchataqua-2009-01-21.tar.gz
16:15:50 <phenny> sbp: 200, application/x-gzip, 2008-11-15 13:31:11 UTC, 2251739 bytes
16:16:00 <sbp> filename: xchataqua-2009-01-21.tar.gz
16:16:08 <sbp> modified: 2008-11-15 13:31:11 UTC
16:16:13 <sbp> EH?!
16:16:15 <laplink> Upstream version 2.8,6 it seems.
16:16:37 <sbp> I opened it and it immediately exited
16:16:47 <laplink> Tiger?
16:16:51 <sbp> yeah
16:16:59 <laplink> probably why
16:17:05 <sbp> sux
16:21:03 <sbp> first centre court roof play
16:21:03 <sbp> and Safina wins the point
16:21:03 <sbp> and now an ace
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17:15:34 <[bjoern]> yo
17:16:25 <sbp> yo
17:17:44 <[bjoern]> so who's gonna win, us, or yous?
17:18:13 <sbp> us, 2-1 I reckon
17:18:38 <sbp> there will be some people on the pitch
17:18:39 <[bjoern]> I wonder how football scores are distributed
17:18:43 <sbp> you will think it's all over
17:18:48 <sbp> yay, Safina goes through
17:18:55 <sbp> by courier I think
17:19:09 <[bjoern]> couriers are the new romans.
17:19:39 <sbp> what about terriers?
17:20:58 <[bjoern]> future generations will tell us when they wake the dead.
17:22:04 <[bjoern]> "The Air Force successfully launched an unarmed Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missile Monday from the California coast to an area in the Pacific Ocean some 4,200 miles away."
17:22:23 <sbp> success!
17:22:24 <sbp> wait
17:22:28 <sbp> terrorists!
17:22:32 <sbp> sanctuon them!
17:22:37 <sbp> break off all deals!
17:23:13 <[bjoern]> I will not discuss sanctions unless you accept my preconditions.
17:23:45 <sbp> I won't accept your preconditions unless we discuss sanctions
17:24:29 <[bjoern]> That's okay, they are not negotiable anyway.
17:24:50 <sbp> successful negotiations!
17:26:01 <jsled> .o
17:26:01 <phenny> jsled: Try http://code.google.com/p/phenny-ws/wiki/ServiceDefinitions for details.
17:26:20 <jsled> .o wa distance from California to North Korea
17:26:26 <phenny> distance->from California (US state) to North Korea;5646 miles;9087 km (kilometers);9.087x10^6 meters;4907 nmi (nautical miles);aircraft (550 mph)->10.3 hours, sound->7.42 hours, light in fiber->42.5 ms (milliseconds), light in vacuum->30.3 ms (milliseconds), (assuming direct great-circle paths);0.227 ~~ 1 / 4
17:26:47 <jsled> .silly
17:26:51 <jsled> .o silly
17:26:53 <phenny> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1246296434206.jpg
17:29:07 <[bjoern]> http://www.derwesten.de/static/nachrichten/8121/12462856692000/53853344_24227251_slide.jpg
17:29:29 <sbp> waxworks?
17:29:34 <[bjoern]> aye
17:29:37 <[bjoern]> scary: http://www.derwesten.de/static/nachrichten/8121/12462856692200/53853346_24228350_slide.jpg
17:30:26 <[bjoern]> won competition for ugliest dog: http://www.derwesten.de/static/nachrichten/8064/12462009903120/53841605_24209257_slide.jpg
17:30:30 <[bjoern]> (srsly)
17:33:23 <[bjoern]> confed cup http://www.derwesten.de/static/nachrichten/8096/12462225533290/53847254_24219026_slide.jpg
17:34:59 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1927_0ff4.jpeg
17:35:13 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1906_22b5_480.jpeg
17:36:42 <[bjoern]> doing it wong http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1809_71cb.jpeg
17:36:51 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1798_c160.jpeg
17:38:22 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2009/jun/28/games1
17:38:24 <phenny> [bjoern]: Monkey Island special edition - the interview | Technology | guardian.co.uk
17:40:42 <[bjoern]> swordplay on http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland/ has not quite the appeal of the original
17:40:49 <[bjoern]> also their ui for it is fail
17:42:37 <[bjoern]> disturbingly many porn gif vids for a monday.
17:44:00 <sbp> the ugliest dog is quite cute
17:44:19 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1459_7c43.gif
17:45:12 <sbp> Kermit is quite cute
17:45:30 <[bjoern]> of this i have proper videos http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1370_8506.gif
17:45:58 <sbp> centre court sounds very different with the roof on
17:47:16 <sbp> ugh, Murray loses the first game
17:47:41 <[bjoern]> you should have sent the dämonic skull.
17:47:54 <sbp> your GIF intrigues me and I would like you subscribe to your newsletter
17:48:09 <[bjoern]> not sure what to think of this http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1329_1248_480.jpeg
17:48:56 <[bjoern]> much less this, and dontclick http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1290_4721.jpeg
17:49:17 <[bjoern]> another pix of the dog http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1475_6000.jpeg
17:50:00 <sbp> her coffee table is stimulating her!
17:50:19 <sbp> I still think the dog is quite cute
17:50:26 <sbp> in the 80s it would have made a lot of money
17:50:28 <[bjoern]> yes, but where do you buy one?
17:50:40 <sbp> there must be an 80s retro store somewhere
17:50:43 <sbp> perhaps they have a kennel
17:51:01 <sbp> wait, what time is that match starting again?
17:51:02 <[bjoern]> Archäologie 2.0 http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1221_9e4e_480.jpeg
17:51:05 <sbp> did you ever sort the timezones out?
17:51:33 <sbp> nah, she just dropped her lipstick overboard
17:51:40 <[bjoern]> for the game? it's 2045 +0200
17:51:53 <sbp> so that's... just under an hour. kk
17:52:38 <sbp> remember when we looked through the whole England vs. Germany football record?
17:52:56 <Morbus> billy mays dying has hit me harder than any death in recent memory.
17:53:23 <[bjoern]> sounds like a thing we would do, not remember not so much
17:53:44 <sbp> Morbus: hmm, I don't think I've heard of him. why's that?
17:53:50 <sbp> seems to have a very America-local fame
17:54:06 <sbp> always confuses me when Americans haven't heard of Cilla Black or something
17:54:24 <sbp> if we didn't do it, we definitely should have done
17:54:35 <sbp> but I don't remember the outcome
17:54:40 <sbp> also, I doubt we included U21
17:54:43 <sbp> so somewhat moot
17:55:17 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/0653_3ad5_480.jpeg
17:55:57 <sbp> ah, I zoomed in to read the text
17:56:02 <sbp> then realised it was all an elaborate hoax
17:56:30 <[bjoern]> google may have increased margin-left on search results
17:56:40 <sbp> speaking of hoaxes, I should wsj photobarf
17:56:51 <[bjoern]> hmm not all the time apparently
17:56:53 <sbp> margin-left: I don't see it
17:57:12 <[bjoern]> yeah unable to reproduce
17:57:22 <sbp> I Googled for test, test2, and test3
17:57:27 <sbp> and test3 came up with this:
17:57:28 <sbp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsWc58zmBKI
17:57:30 <sbp> .title
17:57:31 <phenny> sbp: YouTube - led in my mouth -test3 (Daito Manabe + Motoi Ishibashi)
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17:57:46 <sbp> which is quite funny
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17:58:19 <[bjoern]> hmm outdoor disco link? http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/0578_356e_480.jpeg
17:59:00 <[bjoern]> unlike most youtube content it has something unexpected, if you ignored the title
17:59:25 <sbp> ouch, Murray's been broken twice
18:00:23 <[bjoern]> http://atlasobscura.com/places/colossal-squid-te-papa-museum
18:01:03 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/0442_954a_480.jpeg
18:01:28 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod01.jpg
18:01:53 <[bjoern]> what's with the minipix?
18:02:33 <[bjoern]> hmm http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/0341_ac48.jpeg
18:02:55 <sbp> minipix?
18:02:59 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod11.jpg
18:03:26 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod12.jpg - Airpower 09, in Austria
18:03:30 <[bjoern]> the one in the lower right
18:03:32 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/1489_696f_480.jpeg
18:03:41 <[bjoern]> on the pseudo-cross
18:03:50 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod13.jpg - people lost in fields is a strange motif of pixstreams
18:04:17 <sbp> oh, that. looks like a photograph of Michael Jackson
18:04:47 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod15.jpg - turn a wrong turn
18:05:27 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0626pod16.jpg - pandas don't look like pandas on screen, so you have to paint some elephants
18:05:37 <[bjoern]> .gc "morally flexible"
18:05:37 <phenny> "morally flexible": 1,040
18:05:41 <sbp> er, *took a. but of course it was a flood anyway
18:06:26 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0625pod05.jpg - didn't see this
18:06:31 <sbp> apparently he collided with the ball girl
18:06:32 <[bjoern]> .gc "xkcd failometer"
18:06:33 <phenny> "xkcd failometer": 0
18:06:34 <sbp> and had to retire
18:06:40 <sbp> xkcd is failing loudly
18:06:51 <[bjoern]> don't mention balls in a pix like that
18:07:44 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0625pod06.jpg
18:07:55 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/9931_823f_480.png
18:08:03 <sbp> if we mention balls enough we might get in the Google results for UEFA balls
18:08:16 <sbp> heh
18:08:22 <[bjoern]> think of all the ad revenue!
18:09:00 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/9838_91f8_480.jpeg
18:09:10 <[bjoern]> together they open the start menu, i wonder what that suggests.
18:09:10 <sbp> “Spectators at the Piazza Santa Croce in Florence watched the opening ceremony of the Calcio Fiorentino final match Blues vs Reds Wednesday. In Calcio Fiorentino, a form of football from the 16th century, two teams of 27 use both feet and hands and can head-butt, punch, elbow and choke opponents. Sucker-punching and kicks to the head are forbidden.”
18:09:23 <sbp> pix for that is http://s.wsj.net/media/0625pod09.jpg but not as funny as the caption
18:09:47 <sbp> when Esc gets down the station who'll play good cop?
18:10:06 <sbp> ah! Eurovision flashback! http://s.wsj.net/media/0625pod10.jpg
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18:12:04 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0624pod04.jpg - .depolitzei vs. Greenpeace
18:12:48 <[bjoern]> that's not the nuclear power plant one right?
18:13:07 <sbp> dunno
18:13:23 <sbp> ah, yes
18:13:35 <sbp> 'In this CCTV image taken Saturday in Sanliurfa, Turkey, Muhammet Dirlik, right, was hit by a runaway car and thrown down a flight of steps. Later, when asked if he had been hurt, Mr. Dirlik said “No.”': http://s.wsj.net/media/0624pod13.jpg
18:13:52 <[bjoern]> i had better pix for that earlier
18:14:27 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.amazon.com/dp/159184259X/
18:14:29 <phenny> [bjoern]: Amazon.com: Ignore Everybody: and 39 Other Keys to Creativity: Hugh MacLeod: Books
18:16:06 <[bjoern]> eu election results for pirate party http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/9226_471d.jpeg
18:16:35 <sbp> Murray loses first set
18:17:01 <sbp> wow, some places were über 2.0!
18:17:18 <[bjoern]> some had > 8%
18:17:43 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0622poda04.jpg
18:17:44 <[bjoern]> but those'd be districts with < 1000 people voting, and bad turnout
18:17:49 <sbp> heh
18:17:58 <[bjoern]> also in the category doing it wong
18:18:26 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0622poda06.jpg - donotclick
18:19:17 <[bjoern]> It's not too bad if you have a properly sized window
18:19:55 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/9167_8643_480.jpeg
18:20:14 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0619pod03.jpg - an actual lake, apparently
18:20:44 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell cre8radix http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/9121_f57c.jpeg
18:20:45 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when cre8radix is around.
18:20:53 <sbp> "U.S. ambassador Karl W. Eikenberry, left, and Afghan Minister of Urban Development Mohammad Yosouf Pashtun": http://s.wsj.net/media/0619pod04.jpg (who's having the most fun?)
18:21:49 <sbp> “A whaling executive has said Iceland would likely have to stop whaling in its bid to join the European Union.”
18:21:49 <Monty> anybody here and warm in itself a DVD with greater pleasure"
18:21:49 <[bjoern]> the man with the rocket launcher in the bushes, shortly after the shot.
18:22:12 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0619pod14.jpg - people looking at horses
18:22:29 <[bjoern]> whale watching > whale hunting I newsd the other day.
18:22:56 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0618pod01.jpg - scary, rpt.
18:23:17 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/8980_a2ec.jpeg
18:23:23 <[bjoern]> scary reptile?
18:23:35 <[bjoern]> dontclick
18:24:15 <sbp> "Waitress Mary Brasda posed with a “Quadruple Bypass Burger” at the Heart Attack Grill in Chandler, Ariz. Wednesday. The restaurant is known for its hospital theme and triple- and quadruple-bypass burgers": http://s.wsj.net/media/0618pod12a.jpg
18:24:26 <[bjoern]> she has a hair problem, or is fixing one http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/8833_b227_480.jpeg
18:24:48 <[bjoern]> "She'll ride you" - ad.
18:25:32 <sbp> dye problem, I think
18:26:22 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/8557_c62b_480.jpeg
18:26:52 <sbp> (the cat's name is Satan)
18:27:09 <sbp> http://s.wsj.net/media/0618pod16.jpg
18:27:26 <[bjoern]> I wasn't gonna post pix of that
18:27:33 <sbp> heh, heh
18:27:37 <sbp> nor was I, but you were still going
18:27:39 <[bjoern]> i got worse though
18:27:42 <sbp> and that's the last one I had
18:27:55 <[bjoern]> I could close with http://asset.soup.io/asset/0369/0563_35c2.jpeg
18:28:08 <sbp> OM NOM NOM
18:28:18 <sbp> I took some snail photos the other night
18:28:30 <sbp> Simon King said if you feed them sugar water they open their tiny little mouths
18:28:43 <[bjoern]> decided to go for http://asset.soup.io/asset/0368/8395_6f61.jpeg instead.
18:28:51 <sbp> so I tried it, putting a snail on some sugar water on a window
18:29:07 <sbp> and yup, it opened its tiny little mouth eating the sugar water
18:29:08 <Charl> downsampling should be outlawed.
18:29:36 <sbp> ooh, love-30
18:35:32 <sbp> [bjoern]: hmm, we only had Merkel once in that pixstream
18:35:38 <sbp> and even then in wax doppelganger form
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18:35:49 <[bjoern]> dont thank me.
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18:36:07 <deltab> “A wailing executive has said Iceland would likely have to stop wailing in its bid to join the European Union.” So no more Bjork?
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18:36:21 <sbp> hehe
18:37:00 <[bjoern]> There is also Emiliana Torrini.
18:37:15 <sbp> she's secretly Italian
18:38:04 <sbp> .gc Torrinisdottir
18:38:04 <phenny> Torrinisdottir: 0
18:38:24 <[bjoern]> unicodefail
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18:38:41 <[bjoern]> Greetings your laplinkness.
18:38:42 <sbp> .gc Torrinisdóttir
18:38:42 <phenny> Torrinisdóttir: 0
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18:45:19 <[bjoern]> game started
18:45:54 <[bjoern]> you are shooting on our goal.
18:47:10 <sbp> ooh
18:47:43 * sbp -> http://en.uefa.com/competitions/under21/standings/index.html
18:48:07 <sbp> “Please wait while we are detecting your country of origin.”
18:48:35 <sbp> no free TV
18:48:48 <[bjoern]> it's on public tv here...
18:48:52 <sbp> bah
18:49:50 <[bjoern]> I imagine http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/content/761304?inPopup=true doesn't work for you?
18:50:20 <sbp> it says things
18:50:21 <sbp> [[[
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18:50:38 <sbp> phenny: "Einstellungen speichern"?
18:50:38 <phenny> sbp: "Save Settings" (de to en, translate.google.com)
18:51:04 <sbp> .leo übernehmen
18:51:05 <phenny> sichAkk. (mit etw.Dat.) übernehmen - mit einer Aufgabe, etc. | übernahm, übernommen | = to overextend oneself (on sth.)
18:51:07 <phenny> sich übernehmen | übernahm, übernommen | = to overreach oneself
18:51:08 <phenny> sichAkk. übernehmen - mit einer Aufgabe, etc. | übernahm, übernommen | = to overstrain
18:51:09 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=%C3%BCbernehmen
18:51:14 <sbp> .leo abbrechen
18:51:15 <phenny> abort (comp.) = das Abbrechen
18:51:16 <phenny> abortion = das Abbrechen, fehlerbedingtes Abbrechen
18:51:16 <phenny> breaking off = das Abbrechen
18:51:17 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=abbrechen
18:51:34 <[bjoern]> übernehmen ~ apply
18:51:45 <sbp> is not seeming to work. hmm
18:51:55 <sbp> trying Opera
18:52:09 <[bjoern]> you should be able to select the, say, dsl, and click the übernehmen one
18:52:12 <[bjoern]> wfm in opera
18:52:50 <sbp> .leo empfohlen
18:52:51 <phenny> empfohlen = recommended a.
18:52:52 <phenny> etw.Akk. empfehlen | empfahl, empfohlen | = to advise sth., to advocate sth. - recommend, to approve sth.
18:52:54 <phenny> empfehlen | empfahl, empfohlen | = to commend | commended, commended |, to suggest
18:52:55 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=empfohlen
18:52:59 <sbp> yeah, I did that
18:53:24 <sbp> nope, appears to be made of failons
18:54:09 <[bjoern]> does it just load and load and load?
18:55:12 <sbp> doesn't indicate anything's happening at all
18:55:19 <sbp> man, Murray just won an outstanding point
18:55:21 * [bjoern] gets that now for the non-isdn variants, but isdn works...
18:55:32 <sbp> yeah. I did DSL 2000
18:55:38 <[bjoern]> we're now freekicking at your goal
18:55:39 <sbp> the empfohlen option!
18:55:44 <sbp> don't score pls
18:55:48 <[bjoern]> nope
18:55:53 <sbp> thx
18:57:13 <[bjoern]> you kinda lack caucasians in your team.
18:58:02 <[bjoern]> I can't say this is exciting...
18:58:03 <sbp> the only two I know who are playing are those in the national team too
18:58:10 <sbp> and they're both non-caucasians indeed
18:58:50 <sbp> whoo, Murray breaks
18:58:56 <[bjoern]> audience mostly sleeping
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18:59:26 <sbp> BYE JSTOKER
18:59:40 <sbp> you say that, maybe it'll end up 8-8 and then penalties
19:00:03 <[bjoern]> one of your guys out atm, rcving medical attention
19:00:12 <[bjoern]> we tried another shot at your goal, fail
19:00:52 <[bjoern]> colors are wrong, you should play red, we white.
19:01:16 <sbp> whoo, Murray wins set with an ace. 1-1
19:01:48 <sbp> how's the strangely named ref doing?
19:02:07 <[bjoern]> wearing yellow
19:02:29 <[bjoern]> does not do anything exciting
19:03:20 <[bjoern]> "To SourceForge.net Project Administrators: We have received feedback from you and your fellow project administrators that we need an easier path for users to download your software."
19:04:08 <[bjoern]> .o twitter sfnet_ops
19:04:10 <phenny> <@sfnet_ops> Discussion forum deprecation survey has concluded. When Forums are deprecated, we'll offer dumps and migration to the phpBB Hosted App. (http://twitter.com/sfnet_ops/statuses/2343430906)
19:04:56 <[bjoern]> ref standing optimally -- out commenter just said
19:05:08 <[bjoern]> you can extrapolate the excitement.
19:06:14 <sbp> yeah, I hate SF's mirroring crap
19:07:31 <[bjoern]> germany scored
19:07:52 <[bjoern]> gonzalo castro
19:08:28 <sbp> aw man
19:08:34 <sbp> are you sure he's German?
19:08:49 <sbp> and by score, do you mean for Germany?
19:08:53 <sbp> wasn't an own goal?
19:08:53 <[bjoern]> as sure as about your black guys.
19:08:57 <sbp> aw man
19:09:07 <[bjoern]> the ball went into your goal.
19:10:01 <sbp> no offside?
19:10:20 <[bjoern]> you have 59% ball possession
19:10:28 <[bjoern]> It's DE 1 : 0 EN
19:10:42 <sbp> so it wasn't handball?
19:10:58 <[bjoern]> That is a good question, perhaps we should call them and check.
19:11:20 <sbp> .g UEFA phone number
19:11:20 <phenny> sbp: http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/MatchAgents/Country=eng/index.html
19:11:33 <[bjoern]> uefa dating division?
19:11:57 <sbp> their profiles aren't very good
19:14:06 <[bjoern]> playing mostly on your side now, after mostly on ours at the beginning
19:15:55 <sbp> has there been any ball tampering?
19:16:10 <[bjoern]> they are not touching each other much
19:16:26 <sbp> wait till the second half...
19:18:28 <[bjoern]> de passes ~ 70, en ~ 150 completed, the latter with much higher accuracy
19:19:34 <[bjoern]> audience wave
19:19:40 <[bjoern]> slowly waking up apparently
19:20:05 <[bjoern]> nice shot at your goal from afar, but fail
19:27:09 <[bjoern]> now interesting freekick
19:27:27 <sbp> interesting in what way?
19:27:33 <sbp> is it from behind the goal-line?
19:27:36 <[bjoern]> very close to your goal
19:27:49 <[bjoern]> with the ref screaming at your players
19:27:54 <[bjoern]> fail
19:28:07 <sbp> is he screaming in Dutch?
19:28:08 <[bjoern]> corner for us now maybe
19:28:13 <[bjoern]> possibly
19:28:25 <[bjoern]> more fail
19:28:42 <[bjoern]> 2 mins to play approx
19:28:54 <sbp> plus injury time
19:29:05 <sbp> and since someone was receiving attention...
19:29:22 <sbp> pigeon inside the stadium at Wimbledon
19:29:23 <[bjoern]> commenter said very little overtime if any
19:29:33 <sbp> bah, what do they know
19:30:15 <[bjoern]> 1 min overtime
19:30:27 <[bjoern]> i accounted for ~30s, not too bad
19:30:36 <sbp> aw
19:31:16 <[bjoern]> ----
19:31:31 <[bjoern]> we've never won apparently
19:32:05 <[bjoern]> u19, u17 won uefa, but u21 never so far
19:40:11 <sbp> woo, Murray breaks, third set...
19:44:41 <sbp> .
19:45:00 <sbp> dotte
19:46:01 <sbp> ooh, 3 set points
19:46:09 <sbp> [bjoern]: 2nd half started yet?
19:46:35 <sbp> whoo
19:46:45 <[bjoern]> how would I know...
19:47:15 <[bjoern]> yes, just know, still 1:0
19:48:00 <[bjoern]> remind me in 28 minutes to !
19:48:01 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon Jun 29 21:16:09 BST 2009
19:50:07 <[bjoern]> 2:0 germany
19:50:15 <[bjoern]> missed the goal though
19:50:19 <sbp> aaargh
19:52:21 <[bjoern]> Ihr könnt nach Hause fahren, ihr könnt nach Hause fahren...
19:53:22 <[bjoern]> I think one of the player's name could be Diarrhea
19:53:34 <sbp> at home we're winning tennis...
19:53:38 <[bjoern]> at least that would explain why they are screaming that
19:53:42 <sbp> de or en?
19:53:52 <[bjoern]> almost 3:0, but offside, and your keeper kept it
19:54:03 <[bjoern]> not sure who's screaming at whom
19:54:59 <[bjoern]> freek you near our goal
19:55:06 <[bjoern]> fail
19:55:20 <[bjoern]> lots of black people screaming, audience booing
19:55:30 <[bjoern]> not entirely sure why, other than the fail
19:55:41 <[bjoern]> ah you should have gotten a corner but didn't, maybe
19:56:29 <[bjoern]> "buttcake ties! buttcake!"
19:56:47 <[bjoern]> Not sure I should try to understand trainer screams.
19:57:00 <[bjoern]> still haven't replayed the 2 goal
19:57:32 <[bjoern]> ah now they did
19:57:52 <[bjoern]> your keeper had his hand on it, but failed
19:58:24 <[bjoern]> "ball! ball!"
19:59:17 <[bjoern]> close one
19:59:29 <[bjoern]> best chance for you so far
20:00:37 <sbp> we need two changes
20:00:40 <sbp> ...chances
20:00:52 <[bjoern]> that's about the number you had already.
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20:01:39 <[bjoern]> If you score one, you could agree you mixed up de,en when guessing 2:1
20:01:47 <[bjoern]> argue
20:02:15 <[bjoern]> playing mostly in our half throughout the
20:02:21 <[bjoern]> very very close now
20:02:37 <[bjoern]> more or less accidentially kept by our keeper
20:02:46 <[bjoern]> ... second half so far
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20:04:17 <[bjoern]> your people getting a bit rough now
20:04:20 <sbp> hmm. I'd rather it end up 4-2 to us
20:04:28 <sbp> and then I could say I just got the factor wrong
20:04:42 <[bjoern]> i was offering a realistic option
20:05:36 <[bjoern]> yellow for one of ours
20:05:42 <[bjoern]> boenisch
20:06:14 <[bjoern]> second goal was by Özil btw
20:06:35 <[bjoern]> 25min reg time
20:06:50 <[bjoern]> 63% ball posession en
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20:07:42 <[bjoern]> "off the shorts, off the shorts"
20:08:02 <[bjoern]> hit your net, but no goal
20:09:16 <[bjoern]> nice scene now but pass fail
20:09:57 <[bjoern]> we xchgd one
20:10:52 <[bjoern]> corner en
20:10:59 <[bjoern]> close
20:11:17 <[bjoern]> though I think maybe that'd have been an own goal
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20:11:46 <sbp> we can has win yet?
20:12:01 <[bjoern]> still 20
20:12:07 <[bjoern]> with a colon
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20:12:15 <[bjoern]> though time might fit too
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20:12:24 <[bjoern]> GUYSOFT42 WHAT IS THY BIDDING SPEAK NOW
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20:13:00 <[bjoern]> our de-fr friendship channel has a frenche damsel wearing a Schnauzbart.
20:13:07 <guysoft42> [bjoern], i come seeking a powerful daemon. one that would keep phenny alive!
20:13:14 <[bjoern]> maybe she's running for the pirates.
20:13:33 <[bjoern]> nslater is the excorcist of the day.
20:13:40 <nslater> :/
20:13:53 <nslater> sbp: phanny halp required
20:13:54 <[bjoern]> and men in dresses
20:14:00 <sbp> hello
20:14:11 <[bjoern]> the man in the dress wants to dance with the bearded damsel
20:14:13 <nslater> mebbes wrong, but i sense phanny question
20:14:15 <[bjoern]> oh no
20:14:23 <[bjoern]> with the guy standing with the damsel
20:14:28 * nslater punches Monty in the phanny
20:14:29 <Monty> trying to fully graps all deals!
20:14:45 <sbp> .leo Schnauzbart
20:14:46 <phenny> der Schnauzbart = mustacheAE, moustacheBE, walrus moustacheBE, walrus mustacheAE
20:14:47 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Schnauzbart
20:14:51 <[bjoern]> freekick germany
20:14:54 <sbp> makes sense
20:14:59 <[bjoern]> apparently we know have 10 players each
20:15:10 <sbp> did two eat one another?
20:15:17 <guysoft42> .... does anyone know of a way to get phenny allive? i have a great bot, that gets disconnected all the time. so i need a way to check if its disconnected from a channel, kill it and restart
20:15:19 <[bjoern]> That is the most likely reason.
20:16:17 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
20:16:28 <[bjoern]> I anticipated your reminder Monty.
20:16:29 <Monty> search engine.
20:17:28 <[bjoern]> almost 3:0
20:17:39 <[bjoern]> commenter "1000% chance"
20:17:47 <[bjoern]> BUT FAIL
20:18:00 <[bjoern]> you xchg one apparently
20:18:19 <[bjoern]> rodwell <=> muamba
20:19:11 <[bjoern]> 12 min reg time.
20:19:24 <[bjoern]> 3:0
20:19:37 <[bjoern]> goalscorer doing the robot
20:20:37 <[bjoern]> so far only englang scored against us apparently
20:20:50 <sbp> sniffle
20:20:55 <sbp> who scored the third?
20:21:01 <sbp> that's Crouch's robot...
20:21:18 <[bjoern]> <Commenter> Where is sbp, why is he not watching, it's all his fault.
20:21:37 <sbp> it's Opera's fault
20:21:41 <sbp> for not loading the stream
20:21:53 <sbp> Opera Cost us the U21 UEFA Cup
20:22:03 <sbp> I Don't Know Why I Capitalised Cost
20:22:35 <[bjoern]> more likely uefa having strange licensing restrictions ... but I prefer opera as scapegoat.
20:23:00 <sbp> yup
20:23:09 <[bjoern]> 8min
20:23:13 <sbp> well, see, it's Norwegian
20:23:19 <sbp> and this final is being played in Sweden
20:23:22 <sbp> so, clear thing going on there
20:24:25 <[bjoern]> bloc scoring.
20:24:50 <[bjoern]> 4:0
20:24:51 <sbp> Malta, your country needs you!
20:24:58 <sbp> eek
20:25:05 <[bjoern]> you were right
20:25:12 <[bjoern]> I should have waited for the second half
20:25:34 <sbp> we've still got a chance
20:25:41 <sbp> there are five minutes left
20:25:42 <[bjoern]> Next time remind me that I can forward the stream to you
20:25:44 <sbp> a goal a minute. easy
20:25:51 <sbp> forward it?
20:25:53 <sbp> port forward?
20:26:26 <[bjoern]> yeah like have vlc live encode it to some streamable size, and have you connect over whatever protocol
20:27:03 <sbp> I like this idea, despite the obvious drawback that we couldn't blame Opera if it didn't work
20:27:48 <sbp> at least we're (just about) winning tennis still
20:28:09 <[bjoern]> or if not, not lose against krautland.
20:28:13 * sbp wonders if the news will say anything about the U21 game
20:28:35 <[bjoern]> they just might have if you'd beaten us 0:4
20:29:01 <sbp> yes. at best, now, they might sneeze it in the middle of a sentence
20:30:09 <[bjoern]> there is http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/live_scores/default.stm at least
20:30:26 <[bjoern]> 1 min reg, freekick de
20:30:32 <sbp> we win least bookings
20:30:51 <sbp> unless Boenisch is English
20:32:06 <[bjoern]> 2 min overtime (1 min remaining)
20:32:15 <sbp> we can still do it!
20:32:37 <sbp> would have to score from the centre spot though
20:32:37 <[bjoern]> your keeper just kept another shot, with your defense awol
20:32:42 <[bjoern]> freekick en
20:32:50 <[bjoern]> last chance
20:32:54 <sbp> sounds like the main team
20:33:03 <sbp> except for that thing about keeping
20:33:03 <[bjoern]> shot above
20:33:11 <[bjoern]> we win
20:33:19 <sbp> Opera's fault
20:33:37 <[bjoern]> send angry mail to howcome
20:33:54 <sbp> probably a good thing to do whatever the outcome
20:33:54 <Monty> or, not much more news abounds in instead I would be best deal with init.d?
20:34:06 <sbp> no init.d for you, young Monty
20:34:06 <Monty> Are you saying no just to be negative?
20:34:10 <sbp> Monty: no
20:34:18 <Monty> sbp http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/mar/24/penis-drawing-roof-google has the bearded damsel wearing cloths like bringing up for free shipping?
20:34:33 <sbp> ooh, right, I didn't load those links this morning!
20:35:39 <sbp> [[[
20:35:40 <sbp> One letter from Singer, dated December 24 1941, begins: "In reply to your letter of the 23rd instant, we are afraid we do not quite understand your requirements.
20:35:40 <sbp> "From your remarks, it would seem that the needles are required for some other purpose, other than sewing machines."
20:35:41 <sbp> ]]]
20:36:25 <[bjoern]> overall it was a boring game.
20:36:39 <sbp> a four goal game was boring?
20:36:51 <sbp> that's what you get when you cross English and German engineering
20:37:01 <sbp> seen the penis-roof pix before
20:37:03 <[bjoern]> it's the german balls
20:37:10 <sbp> hehe
20:37:13 <[bjoern]> well there've been plenty
20:37:15 <sbp> apparently it was up there for a year before they noticed
20:37:20 <sbp> yeah, but that was the best one
20:37:40 <sbp> every night when they had dinner, you can imagine the guy smirking
20:37:57 <sbp> and the parents going "what? what?", not knowing that they're cramming their faces underneath a giant white penis
20:38:33 <sbp> “A gold depository must be the most boring business on earth.” — really?
20:38:41 <guysoft42> sbp, hey
20:39:02 <guysoft42> sbp, can you help me out with phenny?
20:39:08 <[bjoern]> can swim in bank notes better than in gold bars.
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20:39:54 <sbp> especially since it seems they're making up the bit about the gold
20:39:56 <sbp> guysoft42: hmm?
20:39:59 <sbp> hey amesb2
20:40:12 <[bjoern]> yo amesb2; please note, there is a problem with your
20:40:39 <sbp> yeah, it's missing out
20:41:36 <sbp> guysoft42: phenny should automatically reconnect
20:41:44 <sbp> if the program keeps exiting, try djb's supervise
20:41:53 <[bjoern]> "The New York Times is reporting that Google is making the case that they just aren't that big, especially from an anti-trust point of view." - /.
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20:42:27 <sbp> The New York Times, sponsored by Google™
20:43:56 <sbp> amesb2: can we help? what did you want?
20:46:46 <guysoft42> sbp, i am sorry, whats djb's supervise
20:46:48 <guysoft42> ?
20:47:02 <[bjoern]> .g djb supervise
20:47:02 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
20:47:41 <sbp> guysoft42: how did you get this channel address?
20:47:49 <sbp> guysoft42: the phenny homepage says that phenny is unsupported software
20:48:05 <guysoft42> sbp, i memorised it..
20:48:31 <guysoft42> sbp, is there a child project?
20:48:41 <sbp> child project?
20:49:01 * [bjoern] think's he's hitting on you.
20:49:26 <[bjoern]> python 3.1 released.
20:49:33 <guysoft42> sbp, well i have a bot on phenny, if phenny is unsupported then id assume that phenny users would migrate
20:49:54 <sbp> I don't know of any forks, no
20:50:02 <JibberJim> any spoons/
20:50:08 <sbp> no spoons either
20:50:13 <guysoft42> sbp, anyway, my problem must have been solved by someone. its pretty basic... i mean, how does the phenny here stay alive?
20:50:13 <[bjoern]> fresh out of spoons.
20:50:21 <sbp> automatically
20:50:26 <[bjoern]> It Just Works [tm].
20:50:28 <sbp> yeah
20:50:30 <JibberJim> Spoons!
20:50:39 <sbp> there is code which checks to see whether phenny is connected
20:50:44 <sbp> and if she's not, it reconnects
20:50:47 <sbp> works for us!
20:51:10 <guysoft42> sbp, where is it?
20:51:16 <sbp> it's in the phenny code itself
20:51:19 <sbp> in the standard distribution
20:51:31 <guysoft42> sbp, is there a flag for it.. here she gets disconnected
20:51:33 <sbp> what you're asking makes no sense to me
20:51:36 <sbp> it's already a feature
20:51:40 <sbp> no flag, nope
20:51:55 <sbp> perhaps you need to use nohup?
20:51:56 <guysoft42> sbp, all i know is that my phenny dies evrey few days or so
20:52:12 <sbp> okay. well, it shouldn't do
20:52:14 <laplink> could it be that the box is running out of free treefiles?
20:52:17 <sbp> I've no idea why it would to
20:52:19 <sbp> *do
20:52:28 <sbp> and ours works find
20:52:31 <sbp> er, fine
20:52:37 <sbp> and nobody else has reported this problem, I think
20:52:48 <guysoft42> sbp, hmm. maybe
20:52:49 <sbp> and I get people grumbling about all kinds of things :-)
20:52:56 <guysoft42> let me pull out my daemon command
20:52:58 <sbp> it often turns out to be something their end
20:53:17 <sbp> like recently someone was complaining that phenny didn't join any channels
20:53:26 <sbp> not realising that they were using an already taken nickname...
20:53:49 <guysoft42> ok, this is the command i have in /etc/init.d/bootmisc:
20:54:04 <guysoft42> (sleep 30 ; (su guy -c "cd /home/guy/phenny/ ; ./phenny.py" > /dev/null )) &
20:54:29 <guysoft42> its still runs.. but the bot gets disconnected.. it could be something is crashes it.. i am not sure how to check that
20:54:57 <sbp> there's no such thing as "phenny.py" in the distribution
20:55:16 <sbp> maybe you should try nohup
20:56:58 <guysoft42> sbp, that works..
20:58:04 <sbp> what works?
20:59:05 <guysoft42> sbp, sorry got cut
20:59:05 <sbp> I'm off
20:59:08 <sbp> 'night!
20:59:34 <guysoft42> sbp, i havef the code in the right place.. and phenny.py does exist in the code.
20:59:39 <[bjoern]> night p
20:59:48 <guysoft42> oh well. thanks.. :-S
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21:24:02 <nslater> guysoft42: hello
21:24:08 <nslater> guysoft42: do NOT use /etc/init.d/bootmisc
21:24:15 <nslater> guysoft42: what distro do you use?
21:24:59 * guysoft42 confused..
21:25:00 <guysoft42> i just asked the same thing someone on #sugar.. thought you were a bot
21:25:04 <guysoft42> nslater, debian
21:25:18 <guysoft42> nslater, any other way to get phenny alive?
21:26:46 <nslater> guysoft42: you thought I was a bot?
21:27:03 <nslater> guysoft42: I have a debian package of phenny that Just Works
21:27:08 * [bjoern] throws nslater a botsnack
21:27:09 <guysoft42> nslater, for a split second.. when i got the line "what distro do you use?"
21:27:11 <nslater> guysoft42: run "sudo apt-get install phenny"
21:27:28 <guysoft42> nslater, and how do you run phenny once she is installed on debian? there is no daemon
21:27:57 <nslater> guysoft42: phenny doesn't run as a daemon. the usual way is to ssh into your machine, and do "nohup phenny &" which launches her as a background process
21:28:02 <procto> 凸
21:28:07 <procto> 凸凸凸
21:28:13 <nslater> guysoft42: sbp was recomending that you use `supervise` and I concer
21:28:26 <nslater> guysoft42: run `apt-get install daemontools daemontools-run`
21:28:39 <nslater> guysoft42: then run `man supervise`
21:28:47 <nslater> guysoft42: followed by `man svc`
21:29:06 <nslater> basically, after you've done all that you need to create /etc/supervise/phenny
21:29:18 <nslater> and inside there create a file called `run` and chmod it 755
21:29:22 <nslater> and in that file do:
21:29:25 <nslater> #!/bin/sh
21:29:26 <nslater>
21:29:27 <nslater> phenny
21:29:27 <Monty> hmm..
21:29:50 <nslater> this file will be executed on startup of your server
21:29:55 <nslater> if phenny dies, it will be respawned
21:30:06 <nslater> but whatever you do, remove phenny from bootmisc, heh
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21:30:47 <guysoft42> nslater, ok.. however i would appreciate it if you do tell me if there is a one-line solution.. it does seem like an overkill to understand the full daemon system just for this.
21:31:14 <nslater> you want a one-line solution? heh, is that a joke?
21:31:31 <nslater> man, your using the wrong type of operating system
21:31:34 <guysoft42> nslater, you do agree that this software should work out of the box..
21:31:40 <nslater> guysoft42: it does work out of the box :)
21:31:49 <nslater> guysoft42: as it's maintainer, I am pretty confident of that
21:32:00 <guysoft42> nslater, linux is the only place you can do everything in one line, i disagree :-)
21:32:16 <nslater> guysoft42: if you want to run a process as a daemon you have three (common) options:
21:32:31 <nslater> * place an init.d script in /etc/init.d and it will be started when you switch runlevel
21:32:58 <nslater> * place a directory in /etc/service and use the daemontools package (which will restart it when it crashes, which init.d doesn't)
21:33:10 <nslater> * ssh into your box, and run the command with `nohup command &`
21:33:46 <nslater> if phenny is constantly disconnecting (likely due to YOU having a shit internet connection) then your best option is using /etc/service - it is not phenny's job to monitor it's self for restarts
21:35:09 <nslater> but essentially, the problem you're experiencing is that you're wanting to do something pretty advanced (i.e. automatically run a process, monitoring it's health, and restarting it as necessary) without realising the complexity of the problem
21:35:18 <nslater> there simply isn't a "one line" solution for this type of thing
21:35:20 <guysoft42> nslater, i actually have a bad feeling its do to bad code.. i am not sure if its mine..
21:35:29 <nslater> it's not bad code, really
21:36:07 <guysoft42> nslater, i think thinkgs like the calculator screw her up.. or maybe the logger i wrote
21:36:10 <guysoft42> phenny, calc 2
21:36:24 <guysoft42> !calc 1+1
21:36:37 <guysoft42> nslater, disabled here
21:36:38 <nslater> guysoft42: so you've written your own phenny module?
21:36:45 <nslater> guysoft42: so it might be PEBCAK then?
21:36:50 <nslater> nope, phenny is active here
21:36:53 <nslater> .c 1+2
21:36:53 <phenny> 1 + 2 = 3
21:37:06 <guysoft42> .c 5^9999
21:37:07 <phenny> guysoft42: Sorry, no result.
21:37:10 <guysoft42> .c 5^999
21:37:11 <phenny> guysoft42: Sorry, no result.
21:37:13 <guysoft42> .c 5^99
21:37:13 <phenny> 5^99 = 1.57772181e69
21:37:27 <nslater> guysoft42: have you tried disabling YOUR modules and seeing if the problem persists
21:37:38 <guysoft42> hmm, mine actually soved those
21:37:49 <nslater> .calc 1+1
21:37:50 <phenny> 1+1 = 2
21:37:54 <nslater> two seperate commands
21:38:03 <guysoft42> nslater, yes. it does.. but i am not sure if its the main problem
21:38:18 <nslater> main problem? what IS the main problem?
21:38:50 <clsn> .c 1 stone furlong / fortnight^2 in newtons
21:38:51 <phenny> 1 ((stone furlong) / (fortnight^2)) = 8.73110313e-10 newtons
21:38:59 <guysoft42> nslater, sorry, i mean 'the' problem..
21:39:09 <nslater> what do you think the problem is?
21:39:49 <guysoft42> nslater, i think your phenny is using google for that.. mine uses a built-in module
21:40:00 <guysoft42> nslater, that phenny dies randomly over a few days
21:40:03 <nslater> nope, the main phenny uses google two
21:40:12 <nslater> make sure you have an upto date version
21:40:19 <nslater> if phenny is dieing it could be because of a few things
21:40:33 <nslater> of the top of my head: your internet connection, your server bouncing, oomkiller
21:40:45 <nslater> the solution has already been described for you :)
21:40:52 <nslater> ... I highly recomend that you follow the advice!
21:41:09 <nslater> feel free to file a bug with debian (which I will likely sumarily close as invalid! heh)
21:41:55 <guysoft42> nsh, ill try nhup.. still i think there is some keepalive script in this phenny
21:42:56 <guysoft42> nslater, you can see my phenny at #zulo ..
21:43:13 <nslater> argh, it feels very much like you're not listening to me, which is frustrating
21:43:15 <guysoft42> nslater, if it helps..
21:43:46 <nslater> guysoft42: I can tell you categorically that there is no "keep-alive" function in phenny (which would be very advanced, and not really appropriate)
21:43:54 <guysoft42> nslater, you better not provoke that kind of bug handling.. you are sounding like a GTK developer
21:44:05 <nslater> guysoft42: if you want to monitor the phenny process and restart when she dies you should follow my detailed instructions above
21:44:24 <clsn> (I tweaked my phenny to ping the IRC server and kill itself if it doesn't hear back, with a wrapper script to bring it back when it dies)
21:44:38 <nslater> guysoft42: my point is that you're frustrating me because it feels like you're ignoring the advice that I'm giving you (for free, I might add, I usually charge people for this)
21:45:16 <guysoft42> i have tons of stories from my last job trying to help them with bugs
21:45:19 * clsn usually gets a charge out of people, which isn't quite the same thing.
21:45:26 <nslater> I mean, you don't have to follow my advice - but at least saying "I don't want to use supervice for X and Y, any more ideas?" would be nice
21:46:51 <nslater> guysoft42: I don't meen to be rude either, but as it stands you have not described a bug. you want a feature in phenny that is entirely innapropriate, and I have explained, in good detail, the proper solution
21:47:10 <nslater> guysoft42: I would close the bug with a repetition of this advice, or if I was feeling grumpy, a link to these irc logs
21:48:46 <guysoft42> clsn, do you have the code for that?
21:49:26 <nslater> guysoft42: *sigh*, he's just described exactly the solution I gave you
21:49:29 <guysoft42> nslater, the irony is i need phenny as a logger..
21:49:36 <nslater> why is that an irony?
21:49:53 <clsn> I described a worse solution; mine is hand-cobbled-together.
21:49:59 <nslater> yeah, heh
21:50:17 <clsn> I'm too lazy to do things the easy way.
21:50:26 <guysoft42> they way i would see it -that you give me the solution of what i want to do, with an output of what i want to do..
21:50:31 <nslater> daemontools is really fantastic, fwiw clsn :)
21:50:51 <nslater> guysoft42: not sure I follow what you're trying to say
21:51:16 <guysoft42> clsn, but your solution takes in to account the connectivity of the bot.. nslater does not
21:51:34 <nslater> eh? phenny doesn't just sit there after she disconnects
21:51:34 <guysoft42> unless i missed something..
21:51:36 <nslater> she dies...
21:51:46 <guysoft42> nsh, she does not die here..
21:51:54 <nslater> well then something else is going on
21:52:02 <nslater> what does it say in the irc channel?
21:52:05 <nslater> the quit message
21:52:33 <guysoft42> nslater, let me see
21:53:04 <guysoft42> nslater, ZuloPod has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:53:14 <nslater> sounds like a disconnect.. and what happens to your phenny?
21:53:17 <nslater> do you have the logs?
21:53:56 <guysoft42> nslater, dont think so
21:54:11 <guysoft42> let me try find one
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21:54:59 <guysoft42> nslater, says "connection terminated , kill shell, killed"
21:55:03 <guysoft42> thats the last line
21:56:30 <nslater> guysoft42: can you post the context (before and after lines)
21:56:33 <nslater> lisppaste2: url
21:56:33 <lisppaste2> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/swhack and enter your paste.
21:56:39 <nslater> guysoft42: ^^
21:57:21 <guysoft42> nsh, thats really all i get in the shell,
21:57:26 <guysoft42> is there any other log?
21:57:55 <nslater> please stop calling me nsh :)
21:58:58 <nslater> guysoft42: anyway, the problem is obvious...
21:59:08 <nslater> guysoft42: the connection was terminated, so the process was killed
21:59:26 <nslater> guysoft42: which is why you should put phenny into a wrapper script that starts her back up when she dies
21:59:39 <nslater> guysoft42: which is why you should install daemontools, and use "supervise"
21:59:45 <nslater> starting to feel like dejavu :p
22:00:10 <[bjoern]> Just like last time guysoft42 was here.
22:00:14 <guysoft42> nslater, as i said ill try
22:00:53 <nslater> [bjoern]: linkpls?
22:01:12 <[bjoern]> 18 apr 09
22:01:58 <nslater> thx
22:02:00 <nslater> chexin
22:03:15 <nslater> ah, not much there though :) but yeah, ..
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22:08:31 <Monty> it's Arnia!
22:09:38 * Arnia nukes Monty twice
22:09:38 <Monty> Must find what pornography and people could always a < dzen`> I see now, along the cheating side
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22:23:27 <[bjoern]> .gc "(es+u+cs+t)2+s+(tl+f)/2+(a+dr+fs)/n+sin x\endash 1"
22:23:28 <phenny> "(es+u+cs+t)2+s+(tl+f)/2+(a+dr+fs)/n+sin x\endash 1": 0
22:23:28 <Monty> "you"
22:23:36 <[bjoern]> ahfail
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23:06:35 <[bjoern]> phenny, tell sbp Google dfntly experimenting with more left margin.
23:06:36 <phenny> [bjoern]: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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