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09:04:14 <Monty> hi mmmmmrob
09:12:32 <griff> I'm not mmmmmmmmmmmrob but hello
09:23:48 <sbp> yo
09:25:19 <sbp> phenny: tell Morbus http://tradecards.com/articles/100yrs/100yr.01.html
09:25:19 <phenny> sbp: I'll pass that on when Morbus is around.
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09:41:14 <griff> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6kjcv_marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the_music
09:41:15 <griff> marvin gaye time
09:41:39 <_ulises> MARVIN GAYE
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09:43:08 <griff> I love Marvin Gaye
09:43:19 <_ulises> who doesn't!?!
09:43:25 * _ulises looks around, machete in hand
09:43:25 <griff> Fools!
09:43:44 <sbp> who doesn't: his father, I think?
09:43:47 <griff> ouch
09:44:00 <griff> Alternatively: one of his ex wives
09:45:06 * sbp reads Wikipedia, tragic stuff
09:45:47 <griff> There's a movie documenting his life coming out soon-ish
09:45:50 <griff> called Gaye
09:45:58 <griff> looks promising
09:46:23 <sbp> a movie? hmm
09:46:34 <sbp> biography movies don't usually please ardent fans
09:46:53 <griff> They do, however, open up the subject matter to a larger audience
09:47:37 <griff> Interesting, I can't find any information on it
09:47:43 <griff> I recall reading about it around a year ago
09:47:46 <griff> I wonder if it went poof
09:47:48 <griff> Where do movies go to die?
09:48:10 <griff> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0760183/ wonder if that's it
09:48:13 <griff> .title
09:48:13 <phenny> griff: Sexual Healing (2011)
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10:26:09 <Monty> yo xxv!
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10:49:10 <nsh> belcome whack
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10:49:19 <sbp> thacks
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10:51:29 <griff> howdy
10:51:45 <griff> yo sbp, .c is google calculator?
10:51:53 <sbp> griff: yup!
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10:52:15 <griff> using some sort of API or is it screenscraping?
10:52:24 <sbp> screenscraping, I think
10:53:05 <griff> need to spoof headers or anything so that you don't get bad request'd by google?
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10:53:13 <d8uv> what
10:53:29 <sbp> woah
10:53:37 <sbp> d8uv exists, reputedly!
10:53:54 <d8uv> what
10:53:57 <sbp> griff: kinda, just need to set the User-Agent to a UI browser
10:54:02 <griff> ah okay
10:54:07 <sbp> d8uv: only reputedly, don't worry!
10:54:18 <d8uv> wh at
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11:20:35 <laplink> .title http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/drawing-up-battle-lines-ndash-art-gallery-takes-on-wikipedia-1752310.html
11:20:36 <phenny> laplink: Drawing up battle lines – art gallery takes on Wikipedia - News, Art - The Independent
11:21:58 <laplink> Interestingly, if one takes certain P2P-related precedents into account, The Independent has here made itself liable for contributory Copyright infringement by linking to the Queen Elizabeth image under dispute on Wikimedia Commons.
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12:01:55 <laplink> .title http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx1FXQPSF67X1IU&displayType=tagsDetail
12:02:00 <phenny> laplink: No title found
12:03:13 <laplink> Wow, the page has its entire stykesheet (and it ain't small neither!) in the head section, before even the title.
12:04:04 <laplink> Anyways, Jeff Bezos apologises for the 1984 fiasco, in a nice human way. I'm somewhat impressed.
12:09:14 <nsh> i think you mean the mechanical sentiment machines recycled heartwarming phraseology to create the effect of repentance
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13:04:22 <[bjoern]> hmm hunger http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_03/shatnereatingMOS_468x379.jpg
13:08:49 <sbp> something's wrong with Spock's ears!
13:08:53 <sbp> they're all rounded
13:08:57 <sbp> oh wait, that's Kirk
13:09:21 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/4247_3563_480.jpeg
13:09:49 <sbp> Kermit goatse?
13:09:52 <sbp> .gc "Kermit goatse"
13:09:53 <phenny> "Kermit goatse": 4,720
13:10:05 <sbp> .img "Kermit goatse"
13:10:06 <phenny> sbp: http://www.warehousecomic.com/comic/theWAREHOUSE_comic_426a.gif
13:10:07 <phenny> More here: http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Kermit%20goatse%22
13:10:30 <sbp> ah yes, Result #2
13:10:32 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/4067_d5f9_480.jpeg
13:10:52 <[bjoern]> Speaking of it, I can't get to the thirst whistle in smb3
13:11:12 <[bjoern]> i fly up at the end of the fortress, but the way is blocked up there somehow
13:11:14 <sbp> man, I haven't played smb3 in like fifteen years or something
13:11:34 <[bjoern]> well, it's the allstars version
13:17:10 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/3839_c61d_480.png
13:18:57 <kpreid> you know what would be neat?
13:19:13 <[bjoern]> yes, thanks for asking.
13:19:19 <kpreid> a thingy wher you can click on image links from irc, and they appear starting at Very Small
13:19:26 <kpreid> and then you can zoom in if you like the looks of it
13:19:43 <[bjoern]> just go and learn unseeing things.
13:19:48 <kpreid> heh.
13:19:57 <kpreid> I actually did that yesterday
13:20:20 <kpreid> I was at a game in Second Life
13:20:23 * kpreid pauses for the jeers
13:20:27 <sbp> JEER
13:20:46 <kpreid> ...and some random jerk dropped a billboard of some sort of genitalia on the stage
13:21:05 <kpreid> my immediate reaction was ZOOM OUT!
13:21:22 <kpreid> so I took the long-distance view 'till it was disposed of
13:21:29 <sbp> you're on SL and yet you zoom out of random genitalia?
13:21:34 <sbp> you haven't been playing long, I presume?
13:21:36 <kpreid> I was surprised to find that I did not recall exactly what it was afterward
13:21:53 <kpreid> sbp: weird, innit?
13:22:49 <sbp> "Porritt: Govt following following outdated Thatcherite model"
13:22:54 <sbp> — BBC News, [sic]
13:25:07 <[bjoern]> hmm they released the nobel prize schedule, but they haven't asked if early october is good for me
13:25:11 <[bjoern]> i dislike the implications
13:25:54 <sbp> yeah, they're always assuming people will just cancel any other obligations
13:26:47 <[bjoern]> I was thinking their schedule is the result of intense surveillance, but yours is an option too
13:27:22 <sbp> well they might assume that because they have you under intense surveillance
13:27:31 <sbp> so we can successfully hybridise our theoren
13:27:35 <sbp> kpreid: ping
13:27:41 <kpreid> pink
13:27:43 <[bjoern]> hmm http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/2557_89dd.png
13:27:56 <sbp> kpreid:
13:27:57 <sbp> def process(a, b):
13:27:58 <sbp> table = {}
13:27:58 <sbp> table[a] = b
13:27:58 <sbp> while a > 1:
13:27:58 <sbp> a /= 2
13:27:59 <sbp> b *= 2
13:28:01 <sbp> table[a] = b
13:28:03 <sbp> return sum(b for (a, b) in table.items() if a % 2)
13:28:11 <kpreid> "it's a sorting algorithm, right?"
13:28:11 <sbp> this does a common process in a very strange way
13:28:17 <sbp> nope
13:28:25 <[bjoern]> hmm http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/3181_8049.jpeg
13:28:27 <sbp> the questions, obviously, are...
13:28:29 <sbp> a) what process?
13:28:33 <sbp> b) how does it work?
13:28:37 <kpreid> let's see, table is kinda memoizing.
13:29:07 <sbp> (I came across this as trick about the process, and decided to turn it into a puzzle)
13:29:24 <[bjoern]> what does the return line do?
13:29:25 <kpreid> at the end of the loop b is multiplied by a power of two near a
13:29:35 <sbp> actually I should also say that a and b are both isinstance(int)
13:29:37 <[bjoern]> is that a grep { } with the if there?
13:29:49 <sbp> yes, basically
13:30:00 <kpreid> if a mod 2...
13:30:05 <sbp> and .items() returns the hashtable pairs of course
13:30:09 <sbp> so a is a key, and b a value
13:30:28 <kpreid> Does this reverse the bits in a base-2 number?
13:30:29 <[bjoern]> well that much i understood from previous py code discussions with you.
13:30:42 <sbp> nope
13:31:01 <sbp> base-2 is involved though
13:31:14 <sbp> this is a pretty common process
13:31:22 <kpreid> if a % 2 then a bit is set..
13:31:24 <sbp> I wouldn't call reversing the bits in a base 2 number particularly common
13:31:31 <sbp> perhaps I don't do enough bitwise programming, heh
13:31:34 <kpreid> is this a logical and?
13:31:37 <sbp> nopes
13:31:48 <kpreid> bitwise logical and, I mean
13:32:05 <sbp> still nope
13:32:39 <[bjoern]> my first guess would have been log2
13:32:52 * sbp tries to find the original article about this
13:32:59 <[bjoern]> but obviously that wouldn't make sense
13:33:12 <kpreid> bitshift? don't think so
13:33:19 <sbp> oh, interesting, there's a Wikipedia page about this technique too
13:33:54 <[bjoern]> hmm http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/2246_f166_480.jpeg
13:33:56 <sbp> I should also note that this is my crappy implementation of the technique
13:34:02 <sbp> so I haven't tested to make sure it always works
13:34:05 <sbp> only did a trivial test
13:34:08 <kpreid> I think perhaps it multiplies a by b
13:34:11 <sbp> correct
13:34:18 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_multiplication
13:34:52 <kpreid> it sums b * bit for each individual bit in a
13:35:05 <sbp> exactly
13:35:18 <sbp> pretty clevars
13:35:29 <sbp> basically the regular way of multiplying
13:35:33 <sbp> but using binary logix™
13:35:59 <sbp> got this originally via http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Programming-Praxis-Russian-Peasant-Multiplication.aspx
13:36:11 <[bjoern]> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/2153_595e.jpeg
13:36:55 <[bjoern]> "Success is like being pregnant. Everybody congratulates you, but nobody knows how many times you were fucked."
13:36:55 <Monty> potty mouth!
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13:37:40 <kpreid> so and I've *also* heard this technique called Ethiopian multiplication.
13:37:47 <kpreid> someone should figure out a canonical name for it.
13:39:57 <kpreid> sbp: why the table, though?
13:42:04 <kpreid> e.g. [[[
13:42:06 <kpreid> def process(a, b):
13:42:08 <kpreid> c = 0
13:42:10 <kpreid> while a > 0:
13:42:12 <kpreid> if a % 2: c += b
13:42:14 <kpreid> a /= 2
13:42:16 <kpreid> b *= 2
13:42:18 <kpreid> return c
13:42:20 <kpreid> ]]]
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13:43:16 <[bjoern]> Read again the title of this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_multiplication#The_table
13:43:40 <kpreid> pfft
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14:19:04 <sbp> yeah, I didn't bother golfing it at all
14:19:12 <sbp> just basically copied description into code
14:19:52 <kpreid> well, thanks for mentioning it. your version inspired my version which I translated into E and posted on http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Multiplication#E
14:21:03 <sbp> chuckle. Ethiopian there, eh?
14:21:46 <kpreid> yeah, someone renamed it from Russian Peasant on the 23rd
14:22:24 <sbp> heh
14:22:29 <sbp> ooh, ASM
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14:43:03 <Monty> bah, it's leobard again
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14:43:09 <Monty> yo Tene!
14:51:01 <Tene> hi monty!
14:51:05 <Monty> he's talking with --enable-dynamic-ssl-lib ? Is there needs a movement standpoint.
14:52:36 <Tene> Totally a movement standpoint. Sorry for talking with ssl enabled.
14:55:27 <[bjoern]> ah I had to push up to go through a door to get the whistle
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15:03:02 <[bjoern]> world 1 done
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15:03:34 <[bjoern]> get permanent wings
15:03:43 <[bjoern]> now desert world
15:05:39 <[bjoern]> course 1 clear
15:05:47 <[bjoern]> oh i get the memory game
15:10:06 <[bjoern]> these levels are a lot less complex than in smw
15:10:10 <[bjoern]> course 2 clear
15:10:14 <[bjoern]> now the fortess
15:12:32 <[bjoern]> fortress cleared
15:14:21 <sbp> http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/sf2-in-portuguese-tv/291476
15:14:28 <sbp> — Portugal, via d8uv
15:16:00 <sbp> laplink: ping Ping PING
15:16:20 <laplink> sbp: ack Ack ACK
15:16:25 <sbp> laplink: http://www.digsby.com/
15:16:33 <sbp> also via d8uv. possible Adium competitor?
15:17:02 <sbp> ah, not released for OS X yet though. Coming Soon™
15:17:46 <[bjoern]> oh no the course with the evil sun
15:18:59 <laplink> And I don't really see any compelling feature to go for this closed source product instead of Adium (which, if you weren't aware, is open source).
15:19:21 <sbp> ah, I wasn't
15:19:36 <[bjoern]> cleared
15:19:38 <laplink> Well, possibly it has better synchronization between computers, but that seems to be based on their online service rather than, say, MobileMe.
15:19:43 <sbp> it's all already so evil that I didn't bother checking that
15:20:16 <laplink> I'm quite happy with Adium. And it's steadily making small improvements.
15:20:22 <sbp> I guess open source is important for the whole "u not steal my passwords pls" thing
15:20:52 <[bjoern]> that's what they want you to think
15:21:02 <laplink> The only real drawback is a lack of new wiz-bang stuff to get me really excited about it, but, then, there's something to be said for software that bores you too.
15:21:12 <sbp> yeah
15:21:17 <sbp> X-Chat Aqua bores the arse off of me
15:21:20 <sbp> but that's what makes it good
15:21:43 <laplink> yeah
15:23:15 <[bjoern]> another memory game!
15:23:18 <laplink> The only thing I'm really searching for in IM these days is something I can use at work; that is, I need a good server component—with AD integration and all that good Enterprise stuff—and a ditto client app.
15:23:29 <sbp> iChat!
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15:24:40 <laplink> Yeah, it's one possibility, but it's based on AIM and I need Jabber/XMPP, and despite the many many Macs bought recently, the vast majority of clients are still `doze (XP SP2).
15:26:05 <[bjoern]> and got another whistle
15:26:06 <Monty> :) I'm trying to prove itself liable for book deadline to %[JS was about it, then key/value somewhere
15:26:24 <[bjoern]> frog suite
15:28:32 <[bjoern]> 3up at the whatsitcalled where you have to align three bands so you get a mushroom, flower, or star
15:28:44 <[bjoern]> now the pyramid, last course here other than the ship
15:32:51 <[bjoern]> cleared
15:33:12 <[bjoern]> Oh, it's terrible, the king has been transformed!
15:34:58 <laplink> .title http://www.sprakrad.no/
15:35:00 <phenny> laplink: Språkrådet - Førstesida
15:36:18 <[bjoern]> there goes another bowserling
15:36:31 <[bjoern]> world three... that's the water world right
15:36:34 <[bjoern]> then giant
15:36:49 <[bjoern]> sky tubes bowser ... one's missing
15:37:01 <[bjoern]> princess gives me a cloud
15:38:40 <[bjoern]> hate diving worlds, but course 1 is clear
15:39:16 <[bjoern]> staying on platforms while fish jump at you worlds i like maybe even less
15:41:07 <[bjoern]> another frog suite
15:43:11 <[bjoern]> i did not think the big fish that swallow and drown you could be cape killed, but they can
15:43:32 <[bjoern]> memory!
15:43:38 <[bjoern]> I better clear out some items first...
15:52:01 <[bjoern]> fortress was a pain but cleared
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15:53:22 <Monty> hi danja
15:54:43 <[bjoern]> there goes world 5
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16:02:03 <[bjoern]> memory again
16:02:09 <[bjoern]> i did not use to get it this often
16:05:32 <[bjoern]> .leo Bettlaken
16:05:33 <phenny> das Bettlaken = sheet, bed sheet
16:05:34 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Bettlaken
16:05:44 <[bjoern]> bed sheet ghosts
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16:11:09 <[bjoern]> Oh, it's terrible, the king has been transformed!
16:11:23 <sbp> into what?!
16:11:50 <[bjoern]> you know the big dinosaurs in smw?
16:12:01 <sbp> yup
16:12:04 <[bjoern]> in the world where coin collection / time gives you different exits
16:12:07 <[bjoern]> aye, into one of those
16:12:12 <sbp> cool
16:12:21 <sbp> does he sprout a feather duster from his mouth too?
16:13:17 <[bjoern]> http://imagebin.ca/img/zzhpp9.png
16:13:33 <[bjoern]> well he is opening and closing it
16:13:45 <sbp> chuckle
16:14:00 <sbp> if he sprouts the feather duster, mind out of the way
16:16:37 <sbp> Massa now serious but not critical, by the way
16:16:45 <sbp> but a doctor said it looks like he's out for the season
16:16:54 <[bjoern]> http://imagebin.ca/img/qoodZyo.png is wendy i suppose
16:16:57 <sbp> so Ferrari are going to need a new driver at least for this season
16:17:13 <[bjoern]> she's throwing Rettungsringe at me
16:17:21 <sbp> looks like he's going to be okay. was much more serious than we thought on the day though
16:17:36 <sbp> ooh, you're tanukised
16:18:44 <sbp> oh, some source was saying Alex Wurz might return
16:19:36 <sbp> ah, Luca Badoer and Marc Gené are the Ferrari test drivers
16:19:44 <sbp> they won't bring Badoer in, he's really old
16:19:48 <sbp> not heard of Gené
16:19:57 <[bjoern]> de-dinosaured http://imagebin.ca/img/usOJeb.png
16:20:30 <sbp> [[[
16:20:31 <sbp> Ferrari's number one driver Michael Schumacher broke his leg in an accident at the British Grand Prix at Silverstone. As Ferrari's test driver, Badoer expected to be promoted to the race seat in Schumacher's absence, but the team opted for Mika Salo instead, prompting criticism from former Ferrari driver Jean Alesi.
16:20:36 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luca_Badoer
16:20:45 <sbp> well done
16:20:51 <sbp> did the princess send you any mushrooms?
16:20:59 <[bjoern]> she sends me a music box
16:21:28 <[bjoern]> The WHITE BLOCK apparently
16:21:31 <sbp> hmm, Badoer's top place was 7th
16:23:51 <[bjoern]> now in giant world http://imagebin.ca/img/UUTjYBM.png
16:25:13 <sbp> eeeeasy
16:25:44 <[bjoern]> except for some bowser worlds there is only one really difficult level in all of the game
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16:25:51 <[bjoern]> which is some autoscroller in the sky world
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16:26:13 <sbp> what about the level with the trillion cannons?
16:26:21 <sbp> cannon, even
16:26:23 <sbp> autoplural
16:27:17 <[bjoern]> I am not sure I recall one, although all ships are like that of course, and most of bowser's Eisenbahngeschütze.
16:28:44 <[bjoern]> http://old-wizard.com/top-5-hardest-levels-from-mario-3 lists only world 8 levels
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16:41:06 <sbp> ah, I was thinking of Super Tanks
16:41:07 <sbp> 4th on that page
16:41:36 <sbp> hmm, or maybe I was thinking of the 2nd, Mini Airships
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16:43:08 <[bjoern]> there are the white ships, which are secret coingasms, and the end-of-world ships, and awful ships in world 8.
16:43:19 <[bjoern]> there are no airships other than that
16:44:17 <sbp> [[[
16:44:18 <sbp> I’m still trying to decide if this is real or not. Some guy claims to have made Mario playable with a webcam and his hand. All I have to say is, thank God he used his hand.
16:44:25 <sbp> ]]] - http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2009/02/10/ten-of-the-coolest-hacked-super-mario-levels/
16:45:12 * sbp watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2OytHzZ72Y again
16:46:03 <[bjoern]> It's what happens when supercombiners become alive
16:46:35 <[bjoern]> yeah we watched that one before
16:47:14 <sbp> yeah
16:47:17 <sbp> man that's good stuff
16:47:40 <[bjoern]> the flower elevator is evil
16:48:56 <[bjoern]> watching the first in http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2009/02/10/ten-of-the-coolest-hacked-super-mario-levels/
16:49:15 <[bjoern]> how the shell goes back into it's block when the P runs out is kinda awesome
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16:52:58 <sbp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vDQvUAcSGE is blah-funny
16:53:02 <sbp> mainly because of the guy's commentary
16:53:20 <[bjoern]> I am highly sceptical when it comes to commentary
16:53:20 <sbp> "Ants taking part in an annual mating ritual"
16:53:30 <sbp> — actual caption on BBC News, telly
16:53:52 <sbp> it's the sort of thing that's funny because it's not funny
16:53:56 <sbp> also, his reloader is cool
16:55:03 <[bjoern]> he's pretty fail
16:56:50 <sbp> level 2, starting at 5:00, is funny
16:58:05 <[bjoern]> 0450 here
16:59:48 <sbp> [bjoern]: this one is hilarious, when you're done:
16:59:52 <sbp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ax7Gnqx4wI
17:01:21 <sbp> ahahaha, and the bit at the end of the level is hilarious
17:01:49 <[bjoern]> that's the autoplaying one I was talking about earlier
17:02:03 <[bjoern]> it's the first onthe unrealitymag things you posted
17:02:09 <sbp> ah!
17:02:14 <sbp> yup
17:02:23 <sbp> oh, I missed you saying you were watching that
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17:02:51 <sbp> I do love the Yoshi resolution at the end
17:03:27 <[bjoern]> indeed
17:04:58 <[bjoern]> #2 the blue shell level not so interesting
17:05:08 <sbp> oh good, I skipped that one anyway
17:05:27 <[bjoern]> inclined to skip "youtube classic
17:06:04 <[bjoern]> yeah that's a skip allright
17:06:31 <sbp> .gc "hip-hop loaf of olive bread"
17:06:32 <phenny> "hip-hop loaf of olive bread": 0
17:09:41 <[bjoern]> #4 is audio fail
17:10:51 <[bjoern]> phenny, "組曲『ニコニコ動画』 グランドフィナーレ 全自動マリオVer"?
17:10:52 <phenny> [bjoern]: "Mario's suite of fully automated video smiling Ver Grand Finale" (ja to en, translate.google.com)
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17:11:35 <[bjoern]> scary
17:12:33 <sbp> well, think about what you did there
17:12:41 <sbp> you translated some Japanese, and then said "scary"
17:12:49 <sbp> it would have been more optimised to say scary beforehand
17:13:00 <sbp> then we would've known a Japanese translation was coming up
17:13:03 <[bjoern]> back then I had not started watching the video
17:13:10 <jeanniecool> Sean B is all about the efficiency.
17:13:18 <sbp> damn straight
17:13:29 <jeanniecool> Glad to know you're well, dear.
17:13:29 <[bjoern]> he better is, else seven of nine might object.
17:13:30 <jeanniecool> :-D
17:13:40 <jeanniecool> seven of nine?
17:13:51 <jeanniecool> Is Sean B dating a Borgling?
17:13:55 <[bjoern]> she's all about effeciacy.
17:14:04 <[bjoern]> It's not no secret.
17:19:15 <jsled> are there any good news interfaces? Specifically, where stories are grouped into logical topics, and the interface allows one to supress stories until there's an actual new development? With some sort of thresholding?
17:19:47 <jeanniecool> A clipping service, jsled? ;-)
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17:19:56 <sbp> redux 1: is there some good news software?
17:20:01 <sbp> redux 2: is there some good software:
17:20:05 <sbp> s/:/?/
17:20:11 <sbp> and the obvious redux answer:
17:20:12 <sbp> no
17:20:39 <[bjoern]> what is good news software?
17:21:04 <sbp> the thing the crazy man just described
17:21:05 <jsled> well, it'd be as I described, I think.
17:21:10 <sbp> yeah
17:21:37 <[bjoern]> That'd require me reading so far up I'd almost have to scroll.
17:21:47 <sbp> ouch
17:21:52 <[bjoern]> Your answer is "no" btw.
17:22:05 <[bjoern]> There is also rarely good news
17:22:18 <[bjoern]> even the rare good news is usually bad news.
17:22:30 <sbp> jsled: I suspect Google News was meant to be kinda like that
17:22:40 <sbp> until they realise they were getting hammered at search by Bing
17:22:48 <[bjoern]> "Scientists have found that evolution is driving women to become ever more beautiful, while men remain as aesthetically unappealing as their caveman ancestors." - /.
17:22:55 <jsled> newser at least remembers which topics I've seen, to a degree.
17:22:59 <sbp> and then went on a Binge and wasted all their capital
17:23:26 <jsled> But I still need to visually process that. Plus, it's big grid of pictures in your face UI is crap.
17:23:53 <jsled> and unless I'm missing something, http://serendeputy.com/ just sucks.
17:24:39 <jsled> jeanniecool: kinda, but the inverse. I don't want to monitor a small nubmer of topics, but instead not monitor a large number.
17:25:02 <jsled> And, thus, actively monitor a small number.
17:25:21 <jeanniecool> Right. Clipping service.
17:25:39 <[bjoern]> find some alike thinking mind and persuade them they must keep up to date a blog that does what you want.
17:25:41 <sbp> pay a small boy to do it for you
17:25:48 <jeanniecool> An old skool parsing agency, made up of live humans, who would cull all manner of news sources for whatever interested you.
17:26:11 <jeanniecool> And then save it for you, updating you at whatever interval you chose.
17:26:18 * jeanniecool wonders if those exist anymore
17:26:19 <jsled> It seems the google news urls are half-stable.
17:26:23 <jeanniecool> Actually, I don't wonder.
17:26:41 <jeanniecool> They must, at least for those in way public/media relative fields.
17:26:49 <jsled> and I've only barely looked into the page source, but there might be an even better content id in there to key off of.
17:27:34 <jsled> But that would only really get me "mark topic as read" … that whole "degree of intereesting development" would need further processing.
17:27:45 <jsled> Maybe I could key off the number of news stories in the topic-bucket.
17:28:23 <jsled> I mean, really, you'd want to do some feature/entity extraction.
17:28:23 <jsled> (of course)
17:29:10 <jsled> jeanniecool: yeah, they sure seem to. Now including Blog Watching, Facebook Following and Twitter Tracking, I'm sure.
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17:35:57 * jeanniecool has no ideas
17:36:34 <sbp> you have the idea that you have no ideas
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17:38:52 <[bjoern]> Gee, more women appear to conform to modern standards of beauty, than at any time in the past!
17:39:02 <sbp> chuckle
17:39:10 <sbp> GO-GO GADGET NEWS/RESEARCH
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17:43:54 <jeanniecool> No, that's not an idea, Sean B.
17:44:01 <jeanniecool> That's a FACT.
17:44:28 <[bjoern]> .w idea
17:44:31 <phenny> idea — noun: 1. The transcript, image, or picture of a visible object that is formed by the mind; also, a similar image of any object whatever, whether sensible or spiritual, 2. That which exists in the mind as the result of mental activity; a thought or a concept
17:45:16 <[bjoern]> By way of perception, then, it would seem seem most facts translate to ideas.
17:47:35 <sbp> that's a fact
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17:52:14 <[bjoern]> Is a WLAN a computer network? Is it a distributed system?
17:53:02 <clsn> Sounds like a TV station/.
17:54:48 <[bjoern]> In failindia perhaps.
17:56:11 <sbp> it's either a LAN with a W on it, or an WLA with an N on it
17:56:53 <sbp> WLA being pronounced ooola, of course
17:57:04 <[bjoern]> ooola la!
17:57:08 <sbp> clsn: there was a programme on yesterday
17:57:16 <sbp> and they mentioned the Welsh word allt
17:57:24 <sbp> drove me kind of bonkers, because I thought I knew it
17:57:25 <[bjoern]> meaning...?
17:57:32 <sbp> but then I gave up and looked in THREE separate Welsh books
17:57:35 <sbp> and none of them had it
17:57:46 <sbp> so at least that made me confident it wasn't some easy word I should have known
17:57:53 <sbp> then looked it up on ye computer, and found it means hillside
17:57:57 <clsn> (TV stations in my part of the US have call numbers that are four letters, starting with W)
17:58:00 <[bjoern]> deriving happiness from fail
17:58:05 <clsn> Ah... Cool, cuz I never heard of it either,
17:58:07 <sbp> but then I remembered where I knew it from: a poem that I translated
17:58:10 <sbp> so I should've known it
17:58:16 <clsn> Sure as hell should have.
17:58:23 <[bjoern]> .w hillside
17:58:23 <phenny> hillside — noun: 1. The side of a hill
17:58:33 <[bjoern]> .w altair
17:58:34 <phenny> Couldn't get any definitions for altair.
17:59:00 <[bjoern]> .w altar
17:59:02 <phenny> altar — noun: 1. A table or similar flat-topped structure used for religious rites
17:59:31 <[bjoern]> 'Alters (Hebrew: מזבח, mizbe'ah, "a place of slaughter or sacrifice")'
17:59:39 <[bjoern]> Well sides of hills are, too...
18:00:15 <clsn> .ety altar
18:00:15 <phenny> "O.E., from L. altare (pl. altaria), probably originally meaning 'burnt offerings,' but infl. by L. altus 'high.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=altar
18:00:28 <[bjoern]> .ety old
18:00:28 <phenny> "O.E. ald (Anglian), eald (W.Saxon), from W.Gmc. *althas 'grown up, adult' (cf. O.Fris. ald, Goth. alþeis, Du. oud, Ger. alt), originally a pp. stem of a verb meaning 'grow, nourish' (cf. Goth. alan 'to grow up,' O.N. ala 'to nourish'), from PIE base *al- 'to grow, [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=old
18:00:42 <sbp> yeah, a .gei(rdarddiad) would be useful
18:00:55 <sbp> i.e. .ety(mology) for Welsh words
18:01:09 <clsn> Is there any resource for that online?
18:01:17 <[bjoern]> PONS just put their german spelling whatever online
18:01:50 <[bjoern]> "Sex Tote Hose nach Razzia im Bordell 18 Gäste von der Polizei ..." - headline on google news
18:02:08 <[bjoern]> "Sex: Mehr als zwei Mal kann kaum einer"
18:02:13 <[bjoern]> "Die selbstbestimmte All-Inclusive-Hure"
18:02:18 <[bjoern]> "Nach Razzia in Pussy-Club"
18:02:27 <[bjoern]> "Eine neue Form von Betriebswirtschaft"
18:02:38 <[bjoern]> "Aus die Maus im "Pussy Club""
18:03:25 <[bjoern]> "Nun wehren sich die Dirnen"
18:03:29 <[bjoern]> "All you can Fu..! - Flatrate-Bordelle unter Beschuss"
18:03:49 <sbp> clsn: not as far as I know
18:03:57 <[bjoern]> all the same story fwiw
18:03:58 <sbp> but if there is, it'd be all in Welsh anyway... :-)
18:04:12 <clsn> Well, that'll make building such a phenny-plugin pretty tough...
18:04:14 <sbp> the Pussy Club one sounds good
18:04:19 <sbp> yeah
18:05:36 <sbp> clsn: there are only 76 results for geirdarddiad
18:05:54 <sbp> unfortunately since this is Welsh I have no idea whether that means it's the wrong word, or if it's just not mentioned very often
18:06:07 <sbp> a really big problem when searching for Welsh words
18:06:23 <sbp> the other suggestion was tadolaeth
18:06:32 <sbp> .gcs tadolaeth geirdarddiad
18:06:33 <phenny> tadolaeth (454), geirdarddiad (149)
18:06:36 <sbp> hmm
18:07:07 <clsn> feh.
18:08:32 <sbp> http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania#Geirdarddiad
18:08:36 <sbp> seems to be used consistently there
18:08:42 <sbp> so I guess it is the right word
18:08:43 <sbp> bummer
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18:10:37 <[bjoern]> (http://www.pons.eu apparently, not completely fail, not much in the way of awesomeness either)
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18:15:46 <deltab> sbp: The One Show is trying out some crazy patented ideas
18:16:44 <deltab> starting with the alarm clock that drops dozens of corks on your face
18:18:06 <sbp> watching
18:19:00 <sbp> Amy Winehouse comment: chuckle
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18:39:52 <sbp>
18:39:54 <sbp> What is the oldest man made object in the world? - Yahoo! Answers
18:39:54 <sbp> What is the oldest man made object in the world? don't say the pyramids;they were made with tools older than that. 2 years ago ...
18:39:54 <sbp> answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid...
18:39:54 <sbp>
18:40:44 <sbp> .title http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200803/msg00324.html
18:40:45 <phenny> sbp: Oldest Man-made object in space 50 years old today
18:42:10 <[bjoern]> yay, space junk birthday
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18:43:25 <[bjoern]> http://www.hardcasual.net/2009/07/27/green-elf-man-proves-ineffective-in-dealing-with-hyrulian-bird-flu/
18:44:38 <[bjoern]> "It was an operation that cost around 999 rupees and emptied the coffers of the Hyrule Environmental Protection Commission, though it is believed that they quickly recouped this by cutting large areas of grass in Hyrule field and uncovering more rupees than they could fit into their oddly small wallets."
18:49:10 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/killyourself.jpg/1248720552
18:52:11 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/gtfo.png/1248720736
18:53:14 <sbp> aw, poor red Mini-Yoshi
18:54:42 <sbp> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/SMA-YoshiTranslation.jpg
18:55:17 <[bjoern]> after three variants they ran out of lols.
18:55:26 <sbp> [[[
18:55:27 <sbp> Low resolution?
18:55:27 <sbp> Low enough to deny piracy
18:55:33 <sbp> ]]] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SMA-YoshiTranslation.jpg
18:56:17 <[bjoern]> we had none of those today http://pics.nase-bohren.de/merkel_internet.jpg/1248720977
18:56:58 <[bjoern]> hmm you might appreciate this more than i do http://pics.nase-bohren.de/soccer_plans.jpg/1248721012
18:58:28 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/mcfail.jpg/1248721108
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18:58:37 <sbp> yes, that is quite funny
18:58:40 <sbp> it's a little out of date
18:58:52 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/gaytest.jpg/1248721136
18:58:55 <sbp> hmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Super_Mario_Bros._Wii
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18:59:59 <sbp> they need a catchier name for it at least
19:00:04 <[bjoern]> studying http://pics.nase-bohren.de/europejapanusa.jpg/1248721183
19:00:29 <[bjoern]> not thrilled about that screenshot there sbp
19:01:03 <sbp> bwahaha. SCIENCE is good
19:01:10 <sbp> yes, the screenshot is awful. looks like a Flash game!
19:05:35 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/google_triforce.jpg/1248721539
19:06:10 <jsled> didn't someone round up all the google triforcii, recently?
19:06:25 <jsled> http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-07-16-n41.html
19:07:02 <sbp> yeah, [bjoern] just isn't paying attention
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19:08:38 <[bjoern]> as if i'd believe stuff like "Now Google removed the triforce from logos"
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19:10:01 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/christians.jpg/1248721796
19:10:36 <H0gan> He killed one of his sons I think
19:10:45 <H0gan> For getting jiggy with the animals.
19:11:24 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/fbi.jpg/1248721891
19:12:16 <[bjoern]> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/millionaire_idiot.jpg/1248721939
19:13:37 <[bjoern]> I propose we make this nslater's avatar in swhack gospel http://pics.nase-bohren.de/lolwut.jpg/1248722003
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19:18:28 <[bjoern]> hmm http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/7881_abcd_480.jpeg
19:19:37 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.theonion.com/content/news/study_abstinence_only_lunch
19:19:38 <phenny> [bjoern]: Study: Abstinence-Only Lunch Programs Ineffective At Combating Teen Obesity | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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19:22:07 <[bjoern]> "With its helpful tips, special discounts on bulk orders, and glowing praise of government agencies, SeedStore.com provides everything online shoppers need without forcing them to sift through pernicious and unimportant so-called information that jeopardizes state security and disturbs national unity." - http://www.theonion.com/content/news/internet_adds_12th_website
19:26:44 <nslater> [bjoern]: why do your image links have numbers on the end of them?
19:26:54 <nslater> [bjoern]: when i remove the numbers, the link works. with them, broken
19:27:09 <clsn> phenny, "鱼"?
19:27:10 <phenny> clsn: "Fish" (zh-CN to en, translate.google.com)
19:27:14 <clsn> Mmm, fish.
19:27:44 <[bjoern]> I would not know
19:29:04 <clsn> The numbers look weird, but the links work with the numbers for me.
19:39:39 <[bjoern]> remind me in 9 minutes to !
19:39:39 <Monty> [bjoern]: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Mon Jul 27 20:50:11 BST 2009
19:41:40 <sbp> the nslater avatar picture gives me:
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19:41:42 <sbp> <b>Warning</b>: filesize() [<a href='function.filesize'>function.filesize</a>]: stat failed for ./mng.jpg in <b>/data01/html/pics.nase-bohren.de/public_html/index.php</b> on line <b>136</b><br />
19:41:47 <sbp> <br />
19:41:49 <sbp> <b>Warning</b>: file_get_contents(./mng.jpg) [<a href='function.file-get-contents'>function.file-get-contents</a>]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in <b>/data01/html/pics.nase-bohren.de/public_html/index.php</b> on line <b>138</b><br />
19:41:53 <sbp> --
19:48:55 <Monty> [bjoern]: You asked me to remind you to !
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19:49:01 <[bjoern]> Monty ... ah okay
19:49:02 <Monty> ehhe
19:49:40 <nslater> sbp: I just get the image URI echoed to the screen
19:49:56 <[bjoern]> me too now
19:50:09 <[bjoern]> perhaps the urls expire after a short while to prevent hotlinking
19:50:32 <nslater> but they work without the numbers
19:50:46 <[bjoern]> yeah because you wouldn't <img src=html-page>
19:51:00 <nslater> and hotlinking is generally prevented by checking the referer header
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20:02:11 <nslater> lo jcgregorio
20:02:25 <jcgregorio> hey nslater
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20:33:24 <deltab> nslater: if you haven't already discovered it, they're resized: http://asset.soup.io/asset/0406/7881_abcd_48.jpeg
20:33:31 <nslater> huh?
20:33:49 <deltab> the number is the size to resize to
20:34:01 <[bjoern]> he was talking about nase bohren, not soup
20:34:07 <deltab> oh
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22:03:56 <[bjoern]> saying about Y, "double worse than X!", what does that mean?
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23:00:56 <[bjoern]> .c 200 MB over 10 minutes
23:00:57 <phenny> (200 megabytes) over (10 minutes) = 341.333333 kBps
23:01:14 <[bjoern]> .c 2 hours times 341KBps
23:01:15 <phenny> (2 hours) times 341 KBps = 2.34146118 gigabytes
23:01:26 <[bjoern]> .c 2 hours times 341KB/s
23:01:27 <phenny> (2 hours) times 341 (KB / s) = 2.34146118 gigabytes
23:01:38 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm
23:04:21 <[bjoern]> .c 2 hours times 15000kbps
23:04:22 <phenny> (2 hours) times 15 000 kbps = 12.8746033 gigabytes
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