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02:28:37 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in seconds
02:28:38 <phenny> 4 years = 126 227 704 seconds
02:28:39 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in minutes
02:28:40 <phenny> 4 years = 2 103 795.06 minutes
02:28:44 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in hours
02:28:45 <phenny> 4 years = 35 063.2511 hours
02:28:48 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in days
02:28:48 <phenny> 4 years = 1 460.9688 days
02:28:50 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in weeks
02:28:51 <phenny> 4 years = 208.709828 weeks
02:28:53 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in fortnights
02:28:54 <phenny> 4 years = 104.354914 fortnights
02:28:58 <[bjoern]> .c 4 years in months
02:28:58 <phenny> 4 years = 48 months
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07:00:35 <xover> .w distal
07:00:35 <phenny> distal — adjective: 1. (anatomy) Remote from the point of attachment or origin; as, the distal end of a bone or muscle, 2. (dentistry) Facing the wisdom tooth or temporomandibular joint on the same side of the jaw
07:00:50 <xover> .ety distal
07:00:51 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "distal". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=distal
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07:48:01 <cre8radix> moin
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12:56:58 <Talliesin> hey ws
12:57:05 <Talliesin> Oh. They're gone
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13:43:01 <[bjoern]> .o wa weather Mannheim
13:43:03 <[bjoern]> .o wa weather Magdeburg
13:43:11 <phenny> weather->Magdeburg, Germany;temperature->63 deg F, conditions->cloudy, relative humidity->68% (dew point: 52 deg F), wind speed->12 mph, (53 minutes ago);, -> -> , minimum: 46 deg F, Mon, Sep 28, 6:15am, ...->average: 59 deg F, ->maximum: 73 deg F, Tue, Sep 22, 5:45pm, -> -> ;, ->previous week: overcast: 2.9% (1.8 hours) -> clear: 0% (0 minutes)
13:43:16 <phenny> weather->Mannheim, Germany;temperature->72 deg F, relative humidity->46% (dew point: 50 deg F), wind speed->6 mph, (53 minutes ago);, minimum: 31 deg F, 2008->average: 56 deg F, ->maximum: 86 deg F, 1961, (daily ranges, not corrected for changes in local weather station environment);name->EDFM (City), relative position->2 mi ESE (from center of
13:43:23 <[bjoern]> .c 72 F in C
13:43:24 <phenny> 72 degrees Fahrenheit = 22.2222222 degrees Celsius
13:43:26 <[bjoern]> .c 63 F in C
13:43:27 <phenny> 63 degrees Fahrenheit = 17.2222222 degrees Celsius
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13:55:40 <JibberJim> .o wa weather Kona
13:55:48 <phenny> weather->Kona, Nigeria;temperature->90 deg F (heat index: 97 deg F), conditions->cloudy, relative humidity->56% (dew point: 72 deg F), wind speed->6.9 mph, (56 minutes ago);, -> -> , minimum: 72 deg F, Tue, Sep 22, 9:00am->average: 82 deg F, ->maximum: 93 deg F, Thu, Sep 24, 2:00pm, ..., -> -> ;, ->previous week: overcast: 39.2% (1.4 days) -> c
13:57:10 <JibberJim> erm, I don't the weather in nigeria...
13:57:29 <libby> when are you off jim?
13:57:47 <JibberJim> wednesday
13:57:51 <libby> :D
13:58:00 <JibberJim> where are you off to?
13:59:50 <libby> vegging at home then dorset with parents then cornwall. not very far :-)
14:01:39 <JibberJim> ah, that's good :)
14:02:33 <Talliesin> "The dead arose and were seen my many".
14:02:37 <Talliesin> How are you two doing?
14:02:41 <libby> we went to dartmouth on a steam train yesterday
14:02:52 * libby gets out comfy slippers
14:03:15 <libby> good thanks Talliesin! (not dead)
14:04:49 * libby is at the beeb now. how's you?
14:06:19 <Talliesin> Not bad.
14:06:38 <Talliesin> Still where I have been since I stopped being self-employed.
14:06:46 <Talliesin> Happily engaged.
14:07:04 <Talliesin> Getting married next Aug.
14:07:11 <libby> :-) congrats!
14:07:14 <Talliesin> have a book coming out.
14:07:23 <libby> cool! what on?>
14:07:27 <Talliesin> That's it for gossip catch-up in brief :)
14:07:31 <Talliesin> Witchcraft.
14:07:47 <libby> neat!
14:07:50 <Talliesin> http://www.hackcraft.net/wicca/ is a draft of it
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14:08:26 <Talliesin> It was on the web before it began to make its way towards print.
14:08:43 <Talliesin> So, sem-web stuff for the beeb? Or something else?
14:09:26 <libby> yeah 'fraid so - NoTube it's called, an EU project
14:10:11 <libby> blog with nothing on it: http://blog.notu.be/ :-)
14:10:15 <libby> tv and web and stuff
14:10:33 * libby doing project management and leftover bits of coding
14:10:50 <libby> danbri's involved too
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14:13:24 <Talliesin> EU is the current big topic here, what with the referendum about the Lisbon Treaty
14:13:57 <Talliesin> As far as I can tell, the no side argument seems to be "Vote No or else some foreigner will eat your babies".
14:14:18 <Talliesin> While the yes side argument seems to be "Vote Yes, and then magical things will happen to make everyone happy."
14:14:28 <Talliesin> Distinct lack of actual arguments from either side
14:14:47 <Talliesin> Except for a few from the most extreme No group, but those are all demonstrably false.
14:14:54 <libby> magic vs baby-eating. hm
14:15:04 <libby> tricky
14:15:10 <JibberJim> hmm, well I have no babies
14:15:19 <JibberJim> and magic is very, very dull
14:15:34 <Talliesin> My youngest are 5, so possibly safe. Ergo, I should vote Yes.
14:16:37 <JibberJim> so I'd have to go for the babies - the world does not need more Darren Brown or David Blaine
14:17:15 <Talliesin> Oh, and if we vote No, we'll all keep our jobs.
14:17:22 <Talliesin> But if we vote Yes, we'll all keep our jobs
14:17:32 <Talliesin> Otherwise we won't.
14:17:36 <libby> hurrah!
14:18:32 <[bjoern]> There is lots and lots of good arguments on the web why you wouldn't want the 'Lisbon Treaty'.
14:18:55 <JibberJim> but what if you don't want your job
14:19:33 <[bjoern]> Eat someone's baby.
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14:22:41 <[bjoern]> Err, apparently the wikipedia article contains no criticism? the german one does
14:24:34 <JibberJim> Talliesin, when's the vote?
14:24:46 <[bjoern]> oct 2nd i think
14:31:08 <Talliesin> There's some good reasons both for and against
14:31:22 <Talliesin> But I haven't actually heard much in that line from the canvassers on either side.
14:31:38 <[bjoern]> Oh our vice chancellor (and likely foreign minister) to be liberal democrat denied hearing answering a question from the bbc, the reporter asked in english, and he pointed out we're here in germany. nice.
14:34:01 <[bjoern]> You could vote "no" because everyone else didn't get the chance to vote on it at all. If it's rejected again, there is a minimal chance that we'd actually have some form of debate over it, and more referenda. That way we'd actually hear some better arguments.
14:37:28 <Talliesin> I doubt our voting either way will affect your governments constitutional status.
14:37:53 <Talliesin> We get to vote because it's unclear if our parliament has the right to sign such treaties on our behalf.
14:38:10 <Talliesin> Anywhere else, they clearly do.
14:38:26 <[bjoern]> Well some places they adjusted the laws to make that so...
14:38:31 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/world-war-2/6237028/Adolf-Hitler-suicide-story-questioned-after-tests-reveal-skull-is-a-womans.html
14:38:31 <phenny> [bjoern]: Adolf Hitler suicide story questioned after tests reveal skull is a woman's - Telegraph
14:38:34 <Talliesin> You need to have either a worse-written constitution (like we do) so it isn't clear if the govt can do that
14:38:55 <Talliesin> Or else a well-written one that says they definitely can't.
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15:33:37 <cre8radix> .
15:34:44 <[bjoern]> Yo cre8radix. I am so happy we'll have our glorious leader for four more years!
15:35:11 <cre8radix> O_o
15:35:15 <cre8radix> heh
15:37:32 <sbp> so, Germany voted to keep the Swhack Pixstream polluted with merkelity?
15:37:44 <cre8radix> i guess
15:37:50 <sbp> you should've voted groon
15:37:54 <[bjoern]> We'll see more guido pix now too
15:38:00 <cre8radix> omg
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15:38:23 <sbp> the way it was announced in the UK is:
15:38:34 <cre8radix> westerwell as minister for the exteriour
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15:38:39 <sbp> "Germany have elected a new coalition which takes from from the right to... slightly more to the right."
15:38:47 <cre8radix> hrhr
15:38:55 <sbp> *them from
15:39:07 <cre8radix> froms
15:39:39 <cre8radix> 'tis time for public dick meeting merkel and westerwelle
15:39:59 <[bjoern]> 2013 gibt es dann den Wiederaufbau nach der Tsunami-Merkelwelle.
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16:58:26 <bancus> .u trademark
16:58:27 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'trademark'.
16:58:30 <bancus> .u tm
16:58:31 <phenny> bancus: Sorry, no results for 'tm'.
16:58:37 <bancus> phenny, you suck
16:59:04 <sbp> .u trade mark
16:59:05 <phenny> U+2122 TRADE MARK SIGN (™)
16:59:16 <bancus> ...
16:59:18 <bancus> Thanks.
16:59:20 <sbp> yw
16:59:55 *** sbp changed the topic to: "Der Tsunami-Merkelwelle"
17:00:52 *** [bjoern] changed the topic to: "Die Tsunami-Merkelwelle"
17:01:05 <[bjoern]> waves are obviously female.
17:01:44 <sbp> .g hip-hoppenings
17:01:45 <phenny> sbp: http://heideas.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html
17:01:52 <sbp> [bjoern]: that's not what you said earlier!
17:02:34 <[bjoern]> There I used the accusative case.
17:02:48 <sbp> you wouldn't dare accuse a female
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17:03:14 <[bjoern]> I want you to think that through again.
17:03:49 <sbp> I'm too hungry
17:03:54 <sbp> ich bin der hungrig
17:04:27 <[bjoern]> Steal your own memes.
17:05:19 <sbp> I stole my own arse for a masterclass, break it down now, checkit
17:05:45 <[bjoern]> nu
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17:07:58 <sbp> so
17:08:07 <sbp> which country do you think is going to sell itself to Japan first?
17:08:10 <sbp> mine, or yours?
17:09:34 <MoiraA> greetings sbp
17:09:35 <[bjoern]> What is your country exactly? I can never keep track of all the de facto colonies.
17:09:58 <sbp> yo MoiraA
17:10:13 <sbp> the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, assuming you mean my sovereign state
17:10:59 <[bjoern]> I thought it's now called United Kingdom of Great Britai
17:11:15 <sbp> yeah...
17:11:22 * bancus loves explaining that to other Americans.
17:11:35 <bancus> That England != Britain != UK
17:12:04 <bancus> And the relationship between the entities involved.
17:12:17 <sbp> there's a good venn diagram on Wikipedia, I think
17:12:31 <[bjoern]> Does it also explain the commonwealth?
17:12:56 <sbp> unexplainable
17:13:20 * bancus certainly doesn't go as far as the commonwealth.
17:13:39 <bancus> I just explain England/Scotland/Wales/NIreland/GB/UK/Ireland
17:14:02 <sbp> what about the Isle of Man?
17:14:25 <bancus> I don't even know about that.
17:14:26 <bancus> So.
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17:14:38 <sbp> probably just as well, really
17:15:01 <sbp> it's a bit like... Rhode Island
17:15:08 <sbp> or whatever the funniest comparison is
17:15:27 <bancus> RI is pretty much a nowhere state that's tiny as all fuck
17:15:42 <bancus> I used to live in a county that's considerably bigger.
17:15:57 <sbp> good so far
17:16:11 <[bjoern]> Personally I'd go with the couple-of-islands-in-the-north-sea-with-complex-interdependencies explanation, nobody but the inhabitants really care about England != Britain != UK or the exact influence of the scottish parliament or whatever.
17:17:07 <sbp> I don't think Ireland would be happy with the "in the North Sea" description
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17:18:20 <[bjoern]> neither would iceland, so what?
17:18:30 <sbp> hehe
17:20:52 <[bjoern]> "While it didn\rquote t get enough votes to enter parliament, one of Germany's newest parties, the swashbuckling Pirate Party, took a surprising sixth place in the national election on Sunday."
17:20:56 <[bjoern]> That was not surprising at all
17:21:24 <[bjoern]> They only needed to triple their total number of votes from the european election
17:24:08 <[bjoern]> http://www.thelocal.de/articleImages/21367.jpg (scary)
17:25:12 <sbp> eek, tsunami
17:26:38 <[bjoern]> "Earlier this week TorrentFreak reported that there had been objections over one of the proposed lay judges set for the Pirate Bayappeal. Now there are yet more claims of possible bias, this time with two of the main judges who have both been members of pro-copyright groups."
17:27:22 <sbp> chuckle
17:27:46 <sbp> the third is okay because he only receives kickbacks?
17:28:21 <[bjoern]> there are only three judges I think?
17:28:51 <sbp> I didn't say there were more than three?
17:29:40 <[bjoern]> Why would you ask me about the third, that does not make sense.
17:31:49 <sbp> I was implying that he was only a little less corrupt than the questionable others
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18:28:18 <deltab> .ety distant
18:28:19 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "distant". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=distant
18:28:33 <[bjoern]> .ety distance
18:28:33 <phenny> "c.1290, from O.Fr. destance, from L. distantia 'a standing apart,' from distantem (nom. distans) 'standing apart, separate, distant,' prp. of distare 'stand apart,' from dis- 'apart, off' + stare 'to stand' (see stet)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=distance
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19:14:26 <deltab> Flashforward starts in the UK at 9
19:18:39 <libby> yeah I'm going to watch it :-)
19:22:36 <sbp> .wik Flashforward
19:22:37 <phenny> "In literature, film, television and other media, a flashforward or flash-forward (also called prolepsis) is an interjected scene that takes the narrative forward in time from the current point of the story." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashforward
19:41:09 <libby> "Drama following the work of FBI agent Mark Benford after the world's population suffers a simultaneous blackout, during which time people have a glimpse of their lives six months into the future."
19:41:31 <sbp> thanks
19:45:55 <[bjoern]> Oh there's a Merkel in your pocket and she's stealing all your change...
19:47:33 <sbp> Murloc?? where?!
19:48:20 <[bjoern]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sXsfSySaIE is a bit scary
19:49:08 <sbp> agreed, and I only watched a few seconds
19:50:59 <[bjoern]> of the singing or of the talking?
19:51:39 <sbp> I think it was talking. I wasn't silly enough to have the sound up
19:52:53 <[bjoern]> So not fooled by me the "a bit" to the "scary"
19:55:10 <sbp> not at all
19:55:22 <sbp> mainly because I saw the "youtube" bit and went "aha!"
19:55:30 <sbp> "there's plottings afoot!"
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19:57:02 <[bjoern]> Next time I will make it even more obvious, but then eventually I'll make something too involved or too obvious for you to see through.
19:57:28 <[bjoern]> Or I'm just saying that so next time I bring up something equally obvious you will be fooled. The possibilities are endless.
19:57:42 <sbp> BURN THE TRUTH, BURN THE TRUTH
20:02:22 <sbp> if I ever get abducted by aliens, the temptation to anal probe them is just going to be so great. and they're probably going to be quite nice chaps, and you're just sitting around chatting to them about hypermatabolastic periplasmics, and then you realise you need to probe their arses for irony's sake, and they're all "haha, what!" as you reach for the most rectum-like cavity they possess
20:04:01 <sbp> "sorry, I was just probing your anus on behalf of the many sadly deceased bovines of my planet as depicted in our popular cartoonography-cum-screenplay 'South Park'"
20:04:27 <sbp> though, this is a common sci fi error
20:04:40 <sbp> in Star Trek, for example, each plant has people who are basically exactly the same
20:05:01 <sbp> er, *planet. yet if you look at earth and compare the inuit to some central african people...
20:05:15 <sbp> why don't any extraterrestrial planets in science fiction have that variety?
20:05:48 <sbp> so the anal probing aliens might be an evil race, or at least bemused, and there are perhaps a rival faction of nicer aliens, who may even look completely different, from the same planet
20:06:13 <sbp> maybe they were just trying to feed the cows
20:06:14 <sbp> and they didn't realise they got the wrong end of the stick
20:11:07 <[bjoern]> I believe there is no reasonable alternative to your analysis.
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20:13:21 <sbp> yo griff
20:13:25 <griff> yo
20:13:28 <sbp> sup?
20:13:38 <griff> Naddah, you?
20:13:49 <sbp> thinking about rectal probing
20:13:54 <griff> That's sort of hot
20:13:57 <griff> may I think about it with you?
20:13:58 <[bjoern]> sbp wants to get analized by aliens, if you catch my drift.
20:14:03 <sbp> not the way I think about it
20:14:03 <griff> I see
20:14:11 <griff> What specifically entices you?
20:14:20 <sbp> irony
20:14:34 <sbp> I want to probe them before they can probe me
20:14:35 <[bjoern]> (he's being sarcastic)
20:14:37 <sbp> or rather, I wanted to
20:14:45 <sbp> but now I think they might be greatly misunderstood
20:15:14 *** [bjoern] changed the topic to: "<sbp> in Star Trek, for example, each plant has people who are basically exactly the same"
20:15:21 <sbp> [bjoern]: oh, I thought of something the other day that you might like
20:15:43 <[bjoern]> a life?
20:15:51 <sbp> I was hungry, a state with which you are greatly familiar, and thinking about the best kinds of food. and I thought: how could we make the tastiest food possible?
20:15:56 <sbp> and suddenly it became obvious
20:16:02 <sbp> what we do is, we get the tastiest animal
20:16:09 <sbp> and we breed it with the second tastiest animal
20:16:12 <sbp> and we eat the results!
20:16:17 <griff> why would you do that?
20:16:24 <griff> If you have the tastiest animal, why not just eat that?
20:16:25 <sbp> but then I realised the major flaw to my plan
20:16:28 <sbp> whi... right
20:16:29 <[bjoern]> But what is the second tastiest animal?
20:16:58 <sbp> if you breed the tastiest with the second most tasty, you'll probably come up with the 1.5th most tasty, so just eat the tastiest as you rightly point out
20:16:59 <[bjoern]> if you have the tastiest one, and make a new species, it might not be the tastiest anymore.
20:17:20 <sbp> the second tastiest animal is probably the salmon
20:17:42 <[bjoern]> The new species might have a flavour previously unknown.
20:18:05 <sbp> what, like raspberry?
20:18:21 <griff> I think Mendel published a paper on finding the tastiest animal at some point
20:18:23 <[bjoern]> like alien anus.
20:18:26 <griff> the name of it escapes me at the moment
20:18:37 <sbp> the name of the animal, or the name of the paper?
20:18:43 <griff> both, unfortunately
20:18:48 <sbp> in some indonesianesque country they eat pig's vagina
20:18:59 <griff> that sounds pretty delicious
20:19:02 <sbp> that might be the closest earthly thing to alien anus
20:19:12 <griff> in lots of countries they eat pickled pig's feet
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20:19:35 <griff> it might give you a chuckle to note the apostrophe on pig's could go either before or after the s
20:19:37 <sbp> pickled in what? vine gar?
20:19:50 <sbp> maybe
20:20:00 <griff> .wiki Pickled Pigs Feet
20:20:10 <griff> I have failed
20:20:11 <sbp> .wik Pickled Pigs Feet
20:20:13 <phenny> Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Pickled Pigs Feet".
20:20:17 <griff> oh right, them's aliases
20:20:19 <griff> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_pigs_feet
20:20:21 <griff> anyhow, that
20:20:39 <sbp> well that has no apostrophe at all
20:20:46 <sbp> apostrophe catastrophe
20:21:12 <Ionic_Groove> there's pickled pig's feet in the supermarket
20:21:14 <griff> I'm wondering why phenny didn't find it
20:21:23 <sbp> she's a bit under the weather today
20:21:27 <griff> I see
20:21:53 <griff> I've never had the stomach to try said feet, but I've always wondered about them
20:22:02 <griff> It seems to me they'd be quite rough and unpleasantly textured
20:22:17 <deltab> sbp: watching FlashForward?
20:22:21 <sbp> is somebody who eats feet a pedo?
20:22:26 <sbp> deltab: nope!
20:22:30 <sbp> decided to boycott it
20:22:53 <sbp> .gc gastropedopist
20:22:54 <phenny> gastropedopist: 0
20:23:16 <sbp> deltab: is it any good?
20:23:50 <sbp> I'm off now anyway
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20:23:59 <griff> Good luck on the probing, sbp
20:24:10 <deltab> yeah, though just scene-setting + explosions so far
20:24:15 <sbp> why thank you kind young sir or madam and possibly actually quite old
20:24:32 <sbp> nothing wrong with scene-setting + explosions, indeed
20:24:35 <sbp> 'night!
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20:57:34 <nslater> yo
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21:40:14 <[bjoern]> Any service that'll take plain text and render that as if it was written by hand?
21:41:03 <[bjoern]> I don't my my hand writing, any hand writing would do
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21:41:52 <nslater> [bjoern]: just a handwriting font you mean?
21:42:02 <nslater> or do you want variation on the glyphs used?
21:42:16 <[bjoern]> I never found hand writing fonts that convincing
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21:47:11 <JibberJim> probably pay some indian or similar a dollar or two for it
21:49:10 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm but finding one is more effort than I'd be willing so spend
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21:55:24 <nslater> use amazon mechanical turk
21:55:36 <nslater> upload your text, and pay per paragraph of scanned input
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21:56:42 <[bjoern]> Cheaper labour in turkey than in india?
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22:04:55 <nslater> suck it and see
22:09:12 <jsled> yeah, sounds like a reasonable mturk job.
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