2009-10-07 Swhack IRC Log

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11:51:27 <hubbard.freenode.net> Topic for #swhack is: <sweetrob> SCOTTRAG a GAY :) HE WANT TO SIT ON MYSELF
11:51:27 <hubbard.freenode.net> Users on #swhack: loggy Morbus scottrageous xxv CaptSolo tav lisppaste2 Xanthor[aw] p6eval MoiraA authentic deltab phenny IGroove sbp Arnia _ulises tobbez bancus spb CIA-72 BigJibby xover realist lmorchard|away sr procto nsh jessica_but_not maxkelley thelsdj Tene Mike_L edsu tro jsled sivy tommorris MacTed kpreid eel nslater jcgregorio Jibbler ephemerian dmiles_afk Talliesin mmmmmrob [bjoern] clsn l7
11:53:38 <MoiraA> did I say hello here?
11:53:39 <MoiraA> hi
11:53:45 <MoiraA> how's life nslater?
11:54:25 <nslater> fine fanks, you?
11:56:24 <[bjoern]> .title http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/10/06/1742203
11:56:25 <phenny> [bjoern]: Slashdot | London Stock Exchange Rejects .NET For Open Source
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11:56:54 <[bjoern]> So I checked the linked article and it's all "The question of whether London Stock Exchange (LSE) will replace its £40 million ($65 million) TradElect platform, supplied by Accenture"
11:57:49 <MoiraA> well nslater]
11:57:51 <[bjoern]> So there is little to be learned from this about .NET, I'd imagine
11:57:54 <MoiraA> not too good irc wise
11:57:58 <MoiraA> see my host?
11:58:19 <MoiraA> LoRez took my cloak away :'(
11:58:30 <nslater> why? what did you do?
11:58:36 <MoiraA> and some arrogant person from EFnet says I am running tor exit node and I am NOT
11:58:46 <MoiraA> me? completely innocent
11:58:52 <nslater> o_O
11:59:04 <MoiraA> he suddenly, in #freenode, came out with "seriously MoiraA?"
11:59:43 <MoiraA> so I politely said "excuse me LoRez?"
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12:00:02 <MoiraA> he went "don't fricking highlight me unless you want my attention!"
12:00:29 <MoiraA> I said "wtf? I haven't said your name for hours and then just to explain to a user about override
12:01:06 <MoiraA> he devoiced me
12:01:22 <MoiraA> so in defocus I said "that bastard just devoiced me for nothing"
12:01:27 <MoiraA> a ban there
12:01:29 <MoiraA> actual ban
12:01:33 <MoiraA> not even +b %
12:02:21 <MoiraA> I went to oftc #moocows and said in portuguese, "that power crazy psycho who banned me needs a good kicking"
12:02:56 <MoiraA> he said in defocus in czech "she is not the brightest bulb in the box"
12:03:02 <MoiraA> then he decloaked me :'(
12:03:22 <nslater> why do you spend time in places where people antagonise you
12:03:30 <nslater> it seems like you're looking for trouble, almost. heh
12:03:41 <nslater> there are LOADS of people and places that annoy me and dont like me
12:03:43 <nslater> so i avoid them... :)
12:03:44 <MoiraA> because I didn't expect a senior staffer to wind me up
12:03:55 <MoiraA> ok I reacted but he did start it
12:03:57 <nslater> you ALWAYS have trouble in #freenode, MoiraA!
12:04:04 <MoiraA> and decloaking
12:04:17 <MoiraA> well ....
12:04:50 <MoiraA> I am behaving now
12:04:56 <MoiraA> that cloak means so much to me
12:05:05 <MoiraA> lilo gave me the very first one
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12:05:13 <MoiraA> we were good friends
12:05:16 <MoiraA> being about the same age
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12:06:57 <MoiraA> I am devastated
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13:10:40 <[bjoern]> p6eval: say "hi"
13:11:13 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say "hi"
13:11:16 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«hi␤»
13:11:38 <[bjoern]> Ha, I win
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13:12:35 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &infix:<+>
13:12:38 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«infix:+␤»
13:13:01 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &infix:<+>.assuming
13:13:05 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«assuming_helper␤»
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13:14:04 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map &infix:<+>.assuming(3) 1..3
13:14:07 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«Confused at line 2, near "1..3"␤in Main (src/gen_setting.pm:146)␤»
13:14:21 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map &infix:<+>.assuming(3) (1,2,3)
13:14:24 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«Confused at line 2, near "(1,2,3)"␤in Main (src/gen_setting.pm:146)␤»
13:14:27 <[bjoern]> aww
13:14:45 <[bjoern]> is it with , now or something? i vaguely remember
13:14:51 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map &infix:<+>.assuming(3), (1,2,3)
13:14:54 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'map'␤in sub map (src/gen_setting.pm:328)␤called from Main (/tmp/hWOdQrQQwb:0)␤»
13:15:13 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &infix:<+>.assuming(3)
13:15:15 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«assuming_helper␤»
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13:15:25 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &infix:<+>.assuming(3).WHAT
13:15:27 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«Code()␤»
13:17:10 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map sub { 1 }, 1..3
13:17:14 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«111␤»
13:17:40 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &infix:<+>.assuming(3)(4)
13:17:44 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«7␤»
13:18:07 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map { &infix:<+>.assuming(3)($_) }, 1..3
13:18:11 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«456␤»
13:22:53 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say map.signature
13:23:02 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'map'␤in Main (/tmp/0tDqLhR6mX:0)␤»
13:23:21 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say grep.signature
13:23:23 <p6eval> rakudo cf8884: OUTPUT«No applicable candidates found to dispatch to for 'grep'␤in Main (/tmp/twW0c945E6:0)␤»
13:26:37 <[bjoern]> .c one year in hours
13:26:38 <phenny> one year = 8 765.81277 hours
13:26:56 <[bjoern]> .c one day in hours
13:26:57 <phenny> one day = 24 hours
13:27:03 <[bjoern]> .c one week in hours
13:27:04 <phenny> one week = 168 hours
13:27:07 <[bjoern]> .c one month in hours
13:27:08 <phenny> one month = 730.484398 hours
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14:15:16 <[bjoern]> .c 30000 hours in years
14:15:17 <phenny> 30 000 hours = 3.42238658 years
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14:27:44 <[bjoern]> "The spec does not set conformance criteria for [documents]. They are no longer considered a class of product. The specification is exclusively concerned with the behavior of user agents"
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14:34:16 <sbp> if that's HTML 5, much chox
14:34:24 <sbp> .g "exclusively concerned with the behavior of user agents"
14:34:25 <phenny> sbp: No results found for '"exclusively concerned with the behavior of user agents"'.
14:34:27 <[bjoern]> No, "Widgets"
14:34:41 <[bjoern]> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0078.html
14:35:04 <[bjoern]> waaaaait a second, the /mid/ redirector now redirects to .html ?
14:35:34 <sbp> oh, so that's what Art Barstow is doing now
14:35:45 <sbp> .html is the new non-.html
14:37:01 <[bjoern]> I have argued ... vehemently for .html due to all sorts of issues (like browsers won't mark it read in the index), but Martin Dürst wouldn't have it
14:38:12 <sbp> why don't they change the index?
14:38:51 <[bjoern]> Oh you know systeam and doing things.
14:39:24 <sbp> yes...
14:43:02 <[bjoern]> "it needs to be very clear to commenters how to get their input formally considered" - http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
14:43:32 <[bjoern]> The answer could be, like, they send a mail, and then it just will be, or you could have flow charts and bullet points and tables.
14:45:41 <sbp> hehe
14:45:51 <sbp> do I smell a Formal Consideration WG in the works?
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14:46:48 <[bjoern]> I don't know, I kinda lost the connection to the reality where statements like "we expect a high volume of Last Call comments" make any sense.
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14:50:40 <[bjoern]> .c +"Ich-Kult"
14:50:40 <phenny> [bjoern]: Sorry, no result.
14:50:43 <[bjoern]> .gc +"Ich-Kult"
14:50:43 <phenny> +"Ich-Kult": 28,500
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16:00:07 <sbp> .gc iCult
16:00:09 <phenny> iCult: 11,600
16:09:52 <sbp> phenny!
16:09:53 <phenny> sbp!
16:10:02 <[bjoern]> She likes you.
16:10:11 <[bjoern]> It's how you made her.
16:10:34 <[bjoern]> It's how her earlier self made you make her.
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16:15:51 <sbp> she's a shrewd ladydude
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16:28:57 <sbp> .gc muzzlegust
16:28:58 <phenny> muzzlegust: 0
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16:41:50 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.thelocal.de/society/20091007-22399.html
16:41:52 <phenny> [bjoern]: Secretary fired over meatball snack after 34 years on the job - The Local
16:45:55 <sbp> good illustration
16:46:35 <[bjoern]> Well not quite, it should be two roll halves and a meatball.
16:49:54 <sbp> yeah, so I read
16:50:55 <[bjoern]> There is a big difference between 2 and 2 halves.
16:51:27 <[bjoern]> .gc "relevance through redundancy"
16:51:28 <phenny> "relevance through redundancy": 0
16:51:35 <[bjoern]> .gc "redundant redundancy"
16:51:36 <phenny> "redundant redundancy": 1,440
17:00:00 <sbp> it's Regen, it's Pourgen, the old man is Snorgen
17:01:03 <sbp> ooh we have a show now called Rude Tube
17:01:09 <sbp> where they show hilarious Youtube videos!
17:01:12 <sbp> like a person with man boobs
17:01:19 <sbp> and another kid who was asking if this is real life
17:01:24 <sbp> and I think somebody fell over at some point!
17:01:33 <sbp> quality television, thanks to the internet
17:01:40 <sbp> thank you, internet!
17:01:42 <sbp> thinternet!
17:06:49 <sbp> Sugar
17:06:51 <sbp> Water
17:06:53 <sbp> Bubbles
17:06:54 <sbp> and ?
17:08:28 <MoiraA> sbp
17:08:32 <MoiraA> hello
17:08:47 <sbp> hellos
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17:18:56 <[bjoern]> .leo Regen
17:18:57 <phenny> Regen... = pluvial a.
17:18:58 <phenny> der Regen = rain (meteo.), rainfall
17:18:59 <phenny> to bestir oneself = sich regen
17:19:00 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Regen
17:20:17 <sbp> I know this word because of what they used to call Schumi
17:22:44 <[bjoern]> What do they call him now, tax evader?
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17:27:13 <sbp> wouldn't that be "Taxi"?
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17:34:56 <sbp> .wik Brand New Heavies
17:34:57 <phenny> "The Brand New Heavies are an acid jazz and funk group formed in 1985 in Ealing, a suburb of London, England." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_New_Heavies
17:35:04 <sbp> didn't they cover Midnight at the Oasis?
17:35:21 <sbp> hmm, yes
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17:35:35 <sbp> hey, they're playing it
17:35:41 <clsn> Formed in 1985, they're hardly Brand New, are they?
17:35:47 <sbp> hehe
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18:13:01 <[bjoern]> "The verdict by an Italian court overturning a law that shielded Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi from a corruption trial could undermine his government."
18:15:28 <Arnia_> Only if having a prime minister who isn't behind bars might undermine a government...
18:22:40 * Arnia_ is listening to a Texas cover of the Human League
18:26:06 <Arnia_> It sort of reminds me of a live version of Perfect 10 I have... poor Dave Hemmingway sounds quite uncomfortable singing Jacqueline Abbott's part (she was ill that night) whilst Paul Heaton sounds like he's really enjoying singing about a guy rather than a girl
18:28:11 <[bjoern]> .head http://www.blogger.com
18:28:12 <phenny> [bjoern]: 302, text/html, UTF-8
18:28:17 <[bjoern]> .head http://www.blogger.com Location
18:28:18 <phenny> Location: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=blogger&continue=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogger.com%2Fstart&passive=true&go=true&alinsu=1&aplinsu=1&alwf=true&skipvpage=true&rm=false&showra=1&fpui=2&naui=8
18:28:33 <[bjoern]> hmm hmm
18:30:59 <[bjoern]> .head http://www.qq.com Content-Type
18:31:00 <phenny> Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312
18:31:09 <[bjoern]> .head http://www.qq.com
18:31:10 <phenny> [bjoern]: 200, text/html, GB2312
18:31:13 <[bjoern]> weird
18:33:04 <Arnia_> .wik GB2312
18:33:05 <phenny> "GB2312 is the registered internet name for a key official character set of the People's Republic of China, used for simplified Chinese characters." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB2312
18:33:39 <[bjoern]> .title http://bp.blogspot.com
18:33:39 <phenny> Can't connect to http://bp.blogspot.com
18:33:57 <[bjoern]> it's #46 on alexa apparently
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18:53:52 <[bjoern]> Alexa 7558 is journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2
18:54:37 <[bjoern]> It's funnier if you read from right to left
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