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15:48:04 <[bjoern]> With even the bots leaving we soon might have days worth of silence.
15:50:17 <sbp> phenny!
15:50:18 <phenny> sbp!
15:50:23 <sbp> phenny is totally still here
15:50:36 <[bjoern]> Monty's been missing for days!
15:50:45 <[bjoern]> twe for maybe years even.
15:50:45 <sbp> so has Jibbler
15:50:49 <sbp> I suspect they're in cahoots
15:50:52 <[bjoern]> And what about xena?
15:51:05 <sbp> xena's a waitress now
15:51:12 <[bjoern]> My point exactly.
15:51:26 <sbp> she's waiting for tav to restart her
15:51:38 <[bjoern]> .tavtime
15:51:55 <sbp> the only thing we ever used tavtime for was yi
15:51:57 <sbp> hence .yi
15:52:19 <[bjoern]> That's not true.
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16:01:28 <[bjoern]> "NASA Discovers Giant Ring Around Saturn"
16:02:10 <sbp> yeah, heard about that
16:02:22 <sbp> twice the apparent size of the moon from earth, I hear
16:02:27 <sbp> so about 50px?
16:03:02 <[bjoern]> I rate the entertainment value of the headline as medium-to-high.
16:03:20 <[bjoern]> I don't know, if it's 50px wouldn't someone have noticed it earlier?
16:03:25 <sbp> ooh, yes, I get it now
16:03:42 <sbp> nah, they were only noticing like 0.5ex ones
16:04:10 <[bjoern]> How much is that in in?
16:04:42 <sbp> in is not an angular measurement!
16:05:08 <sbp> actually it probably is defined in terms of em, hmm
16:05:52 <sbp> ah, nope
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16:08:09 <sbp> [bjoern]: did I show you this before?
16:08:11 <sbp> [bjoern]: http://inamidst.com/stuff/notes/csspx
16:08:39 <[bjoern]> I recall us having incredibly boring conversations about px
16:08:55 <sbp> probably, then
16:09:19 <[bjoern]> pretty sure haven't seen the pix there before
16:09:39 <sbp> also note the little converter at the bottom
16:12:04 <[bjoern]> According to your converter, the sun is 24.3px.
16:12:26 <sbp> same as the moon? strange coincidence
16:12:32 <sbp> wonder if that might cause eclipses?
16:13:33 <[bjoern]> Well if it's not that, and neither the gods, then it must be...?
16:14:03 <sbp> I also meant to write up the conversation about how far away you can see a firefly at night
16:16:28 <[bjoern]> Well Wikipedia has no alternative causes
16:16:36 <[bjoern]> Does not even mention gods in fact.
16:16:55 <sbp> try Conservipedia?
16:17:15 <sbp> the only wiki YOU™ can rely on not to include liberal media bias
16:17:43 <[bjoern]> .g conservapedia solar eclipse
16:17:44 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Arguments_creationists_shouldn't_use
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16:18:08 <[bjoern]> http://www.conservapedia.com/Solar_eclipse
16:18:28 <[bjoern]> not much funnies there.
16:19:19 <[bjoern]> In the news there, "Special message to the Colbert show watchers: do yourselves a favor and watch less television. Colbert and his advertisers want to make money off you, but you can accomplish some good instead by unplugging the TV. You could even pick up a Bible."
16:20:55 <sbp> what percentage of Americans can read?
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16:21:15 <sbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate
16:21:24 <sbp> most literate country:
16:21:26 <sbp> Cuba
16:21:47 <sbp> UK and US are equal 17th
16:21:53 <sbp> 99% literacy rate
16:22:02 <[bjoern]> .title http://www.finalternatives.com/node/9328
16:22:04 <phenny> [bjoern]: Hedge Fund Regulation Battle Gets Spiritual | FINalternatives
16:22:08 <sbp> so yeah, for one in a hundred, picking up a Bible isn't going to help
16:22:26 <sbp> lowest is Burkina Faso, 23%
16:22:34 <sbp> well, 23.6%
16:22:56 <[bjoern]> I wonder if the percent votes kang or kodos.
16:23:27 <sbp> ah, I think 99% is assumed
16:23:52 *** [bjoern] changed the topic to: ""Maximizing the returns on our investment portfolios is an essential part of delivering our foundations' missions, for the benefit of society." - Anglican Church"
16:23:54 <sbp> no data for Greenland
16:24:25 <sbp> Amanglican it seems, from "Maximizing"
16:24:34 <sbp> otherwise known as Episcopal
16:26:55 <[bjoern]> china quite a bit ahead of india
16:27:56 <sbp> in India there are more languages than language tutors, perhaps
16:28:07 <sbp> .gc Amanglican
16:28:08 <phenny> Amanglican: 413
16:31:09 <sbp> now that the Democrats are in the White House, does the Daily Show have anything to do anymore?
16:32:22 <[bjoern]> Haven't checked in a while, but Jon staring depressed into the camera while cheering (not) "Change" was a common theme
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16:35:06 <sbp> sounds about right
16:35:21 <sbp> http://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:If_there_is_no_objective_truth,_then_is_the_claim_%22there_is_no_objective_truth%22_also_not_an_objective_truth%3F
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16:36:48 <sbp> What's a Christian To Do??
16:36:49 <sbp> Don't get married. Sevenstring 20:46, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
16:36:56 <sbp> — http://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:Why_do_Moses,_Ezra,_Jesus,_and_Paul_all_disagree_on_divorce%3F
16:37:58 <sbp> this one hasn't been created yet but is linked:
16:38:00 <sbp> "Debate:Is it wrong to have a Christmas tree?"
16:38:55 <sbp> the opening few lines of Debate:Which Christian denomination is the most true to the central teachings of Christianity?
16:38:55 <sbp> The Episcopalians, but that's personal preference :P
16:38:55 <sbp> No, it's the Mormons :p
16:38:55 <sbp> I would say either Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist.
16:39:15 <sbp> favourite answer is "Well, I don't really have a horse in this race, but I'll go for a long shot with Mormons."
16:40:05 <sbp> "The B-ble is a mythological story, beautifully written, but not G-d's exact words."
16:40:11 <sbp> ("B-ble"?)
16:40:11 <[bjoern]> Which religion would Jesus pick?
16:41:10 <sbp> you tell me
16:41:10 <sbp> oh man, I've only just got to the TOC on this page:
16:41:10 <sbp> 1 None
16:41:10 <sbp> 2 Not a simple question
16:41:10 <sbp> 3 Either Catholic, Orthodox, or Messianic Judaism
16:41:10 <sbp> 4 Catholic, or Orthodox
16:41:10 <sbp> 5 Messianic Judaism
16:41:35 <sbp> that should be the multiple choice answer gamut to almost every online poll
16:42:30 <[bjoern]> .title http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/browse_thread/thread/62020d08026ed507/
16:42:31 <phenny> Can't connect to http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/browse_thread/thread/62020d08026ed507/
16:42:40 <[bjoern]> .title
16:42:41 <phenny> Can't connect to http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/browse_thread/thread/62020d08026ed507/
16:42:47 <[bjoern]> bughz
16:43:38 <sbp> also, cf. Debate:If Jesus were alive to day, where on the political spectrum would he fall?
16:44:31 <sbp> --
16:44:32 <sbp> Having listened to Walter Martin, Christian experts in the cults, I believe
16:44:32 <sbp> Jesus would have to conform with solid Christian theology.
16:44:33 <sbp> --
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16:45:09 <[bjoern]> they have serious load issues there
16:45:49 <[bjoern]> 1 "WTF?" / 2 Communist / 3 Conservative / 4 Liberal / 5 Neither / 6 Anarchist / 7 Socialist / 8 Libertarian / 9 Stop it everyone
16:46:24 <sbp> one reply reads simply "YOU ARE A DINGBAT!!!"
16:47:45 <sbp> "Do you people have any idea why there are atheists? It isnt because of a broken home, or gays or anything. It is because of conversations like this."
16:48:07 <sbp> Gays Caused Atheism?
16:48:23 <[bjoern]> link?
16:49:01 <sbp> from this page, the political spectrum one
16:49:04 <sbp> also: 'You are just like Huckabee. "Jesus would support the death penalty, get drunk, watch nascar, and shoot the homasexuals". You are all idiots. And it makes me sick that you ACTUALLY belive what you are saying is right. And makes me want to move to Canada.'
16:50:55 <sbp> "Debate: Are Catholics Christians?"
16:51:15 <sbp> sections there are 1 YES / 2 NO / 3 MAYBE? / 4 Apostolic Succession / 5 Turning the tables: What does the Catholic Church think of Pentecostals?
16:52:00 <sbp> "Debate:Do conservative Christians have an unquestioning faith which is comparable to that of the Party in the book 1984?"
16:52:50 <[bjoern]> .gc antijesuism
16:52:52 <phenny> antijesuism: 0
16:53:11 <sbp> "Debate:Has Britain become the 51st State of the US?"
16:53:30 <[bjoern]> Does it matter much the how manyth it is?
16:54:22 <[bjoern]> "Debate:How should we view the fact leading scientists do not believe in God?"
16:54:46 <[bjoern]> tocless that one
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16:56:27 <sbp> you should add 1 YES / 2 NO / 3 MAYBE to it
16:57:11 <[bjoern]> "Who will be resurrected and where will they live?"
16:57:18 <[bjoern]> "What is the greatest thing that Allah has forbidden....?"
16:57:32 <[bjoern]> "What school exams would Jesus do well at or fail if he took them today?"
16:57:55 <[bjoern]> (yahoo answers)
16:58:04 <sbp> “As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts as to his divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and I think it needless t
16:58:04 <sbp> o busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble....”
16:58:10 <sbp> — Ben Franklin, a month before he died
16:58:25 <sbp> via the old traditional liberal media bias Wikipedia
17:01:03 <[bjoern]> "Debate: Does Harry Potter promote Satanic witchcraft?"
17:03:11 <sbp> .gc spokesrebel
17:03:13 <phenny> spokesrebel: 2
17:04:19 <sbp> .gc "attention duped masses"
17:04:20 <phenny> "attention duped masses": 0
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17:07:33 <[bjoern]> "Debate:Is it okay for Conservapedia to have biased articles?"
17:07:58 <[bjoern]> "If you see a bias on Conservapedia it is only you liberal nature exerting itself"
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17:13:18 <sbp> [bjoern]: your cinematography is excellent
17:13:42 <[bjoern]> It is?
17:16:20 <sbp> I've never heard anybody say that it isn't
17:21:19 <[bjoern]> .o wa weather Magdeburg
17:21:24 <phenny> weather->Magdeburg, Germany;temperature->50 deg F (wind chill: 49 deg F), relative humidity->76% (dew point: 43 deg F), wind speed->3 mph, (31 minutes ago);, -> -> , minimum: 41 deg F, Mon, Oct 5, 7:45am->average: 54 deg F, ->maximum: 72 deg F, Wed, Oct 7, 3:45pm, -> -> ;, ->previous week: overcast: 8.1% (8.5 hours) -> clear: 0% (0 minutes) ;,
17:22:13 <[bjoern]> .c 50 F in C
17:22:14 <phenny> 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius
17:22:27 <sbp> Homer is singing in German
17:23:21 <[bjoern]> It's better than french.
17:26:11 <[bjoern]> So, why c for the speed of light?
17:26:28 <[bjoern]> I wonder what a conservative answer to that would be...
17:27:00 <sbp> 'The symbol c for "constant" or the Latin celeritas (meaning "swiftness")'
17:27:02 <sbp> — Wikipedia
17:29:39 <[bjoern]> Well that makes sense today, but what that the originator's reasoning?
17:30:56 <clsn> He'd already used a and b in his calculations?
17:32:41 <[bjoern]> That is very orderly reasoning.
17:32:51 <[bjoern]> But no answer...
17:37:34 <deltab> “Moses, Ezra, Jesus, and Paul”?
17:40:43 <clsn> Sounds like a folk-music band.
17:58:49 <deltab> Terry Gilliam on the Onew Show
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18:13:19 <[bjoern]> "Why everybody is searching for love?" - "Cause everybody likes sex" ~ yahoo answers
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19:50:47 <Arnia_> One of the films on the Apple TV in the Manchester Arndale Apple Store is Time Bandits
19:50:53 <Arnia_> this made me smile
19:51:19 <[bjoern]> .c 1000 EUR times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153)
19:51:20 <phenny> 1000 Euros times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153) = 6.8816489 million U.S. dollars
19:51:31 <[bjoern]> .c 1000000 EUR times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153)
19:51:32 <phenny> 1 000 000 Euros times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153) = 6.8816489 billion U.S. dollars
19:51:39 <[bjoern]> .c 1000000 EUR times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153) in EUR
19:51:39 <phenny> 1 000 000 Euros times (337 + 3668 + 403 + 96 + 153) = 4.65700 billion Euros
19:52:25 <[bjoern]> .c 15 + 275 + 35 + 8 +10
19:52:26 <phenny> 15 + 275 + 35 + 8 + 10 = 343
20:11:29 <[bjoern]> i would like a list of countries by the ratio of interest spending to total "public" budgets (both "federal" and "total")
20:13:03 <jsled> [bjoern]: doesn't google have an open-source stats filtering tool for such questions?
20:13:43 * [bjoern] suspects sarcasm
20:13:50 <[bjoern]> .g google statistics
20:13:50 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://www.google.com/analytics/
20:14:04 <[bjoern]> .g google labs
20:14:05 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://www.googlelabs.com/
20:14:13 <jsled> no, really. it for exactly that sort of query, IIRC.
20:15:47 <[bjoern]> hmm http://similar-images.googlelabs.com is new to me
20:15:58 <jsled> hrm. there's google squared, but I want to say it was different.
20:16:09 <sbp> do it jsled. go on
20:16:12 <sbp> go that thing, it's okay
20:16:21 <sbp> say it was different
20:16:28 <[bjoern]> does not work that well, took pix of huge ferry on the sea, similar images are all beaches
20:16:42 <sbp> perhaps there's a beach on the ferry
20:17:39 <[bjoern]> http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images?q=Aaron+Swartz&qtype=similar&tbnid=rWdVRK5X9yKgVM&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BSwartz%26ndsp%3D21&tprev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BSwartz%26ndsp%3D21&prevtype=text
20:17:52 <sbp> haha
20:18:37 <[bjoern]> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:8Gsf0ed_b1JmlM:http://www.mikelobban.ca/forumpics/funnypix/WorfWill.jpg happens to be #1 for 'Worf'
20:18:50 <deltab> “We're sorry.”
20:18:53 <[bjoern]> http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images?q=Worf&qtype=similar&tbnid=wIFGUJqJ0trPgM&prev=/images%3Fq%3DWorf%26ndsp%3D21&tprev=/images%3Fq%3DWorf%26ndsp%3D21&prevtype=text
20:19:07 <sbp> http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/daddys-girl1.png
20:20:59 <[bjoern]> http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images?q=Picard&qtype=similar&tbnid=sLnRdF1rpSCYhM&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPicard%26ndsp%3D21&tprev=/images%3Fq%3DPicard%26ndsp%3D21&prevtype=text
20:21:37 <sbp> cute dog
20:22:02 <jsled> http://tables.googlelabs.com/ might have something that could be massaged into what you want. Too bad search doesn't seem to work.
20:22:14 <[bjoern]> http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images?q=George+W+Bush&qtype=similar&tbnid=VkvPRj8VnJs7gM&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGeorge%2BW%2BBush%26ndsp%3D21&tprev=/images%3Fq%3DGeorge%2BW%2BBush%26ndsp%3D21&prevtype=text
20:22:26 <sbp> jsled: yeah, Google have always been bad at search
20:23:06 <sbp> which one is the original?
20:23:54 <[bjoern]> scary http://d2.strcdn.de//bilder/lifestyle/2008/16/putin_merkel500_maxpane_180_120.jpg
20:24:08 <sbp> Debate:Has Britain Declined?
20:24:11 <sbp> big NO section, and then:
20:24:17 <sbp> Yes
20:24:17 <sbp> You'll notice that there are no entries in the "yes" section
20:24:37 <sbp> that was more of a SCARY
20:25:58 <[bjoern]> http://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/Artikel/2007/11/Bilder/2007-11-03-mit-isaf-soldaten,property=poster.jpg
20:27:03 <sbp> can't load that, gotta run
20:27:04 <sbp> 'night!
20:43:11 <MoiraA> night]
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21:20:48 <[bjoern]> .o wa weather Magdeburg
21:20:54 <phenny> weather->Magdeburg, Germany;temperature->48 deg F (wind chill: 46 deg F), relative humidity->87% (dew point: 45 deg F), wind speed->5 mph, (2 hours 31 minutes ago);, -> -> , minimum: 41 deg F, Mon, Oct 5, 7:45am->average: 54 deg F, ->maximum: 72 deg F, Wed, Oct 7, 3:45pm, -> -> ;, ->previous week: overcast: 9% (8.5 hours) -> clear: 0% (0 minut
21:21:01 <[bjoern]> .c 48 F in C
21:21:01 <phenny> 48 degrees Fahrenheit = 8.88888889 degrees Celsius
21:21:03 <Arnia_> .o wa weather Manchester
21:21:08 <phenny> weather->Manchester, New Hampshire;temperature->61 deg F, conditions->few clouds, relative humidity->42% (dew point: 37 deg F), wind speed->8.1 mph, (28 minutes ago);name->KMHT (Manchester-Boston Regional Airport), relative position->4 mi SSE (from center of Manchester), relative elevation->(comparable to center of Manchester), local time->5:21
21:21:11 <Arnia_> .o wa weather Durham
21:21:12 <[bjoern]> .c 61 F in C
21:21:13 <phenny> 61 degrees Fahrenheit = 16.1111111 degrees Celsius
21:21:16 <phenny> weather->Durham, North Carolina;temperature->73 deg F, conditions->clear, relative humidity->38% (dew point: 46 deg F), wind speed->0 mph, (25 minutes ago);name->KIGX (Horace Williams Airport), relative position->10 mi SW (from center of Durham), relative elevation->(comparable to center of Durham), local time->5:21:12 pm EDT -> Thursday, Octob
21:21:19 <Arnia_> hmm
21:21:23 <Arnia_> .o wa weather Manchester, UK
21:21:28 <phenny> weather->Manchester, United Kingdom;temperature->39 deg F (wind chill: 36 deg F), relative humidity->93% (dew point: 37 deg F), wind speed->5 mph, (31 minutes ago);name->EGCC (Ringway International Airport), relative position->10 mi S (from center of Manchester), relative elevation->(comparable to center of Manchester), local time->10:21:24 p
21:21:30 <Arnia_> .o wa weather Durham, UK
21:21:36 <phenny> weather->Durham, United Kingdom;temperature->39 deg F, relative humidity->93% (dew point: 37 deg F), wind speed->2 mph, (32 minutes ago);name->EGNV (Durham Tees Valley Airport), relative position->20 mi SSE (from center of Durham), relative elevation->(comparable to center of Durham), local time->10:21:32 pm GMT/BST -> Thursday, October 8, 2009
21:24:28 <Arnia_> .c 39F in C
21:24:29 <phenny> 39 degrees Fahrenheit = 3.88888889 degrees Celsius
21:24:38 <Arnia_> toasty
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21:32:08 <clsn> Any o' you guys ever deal with PHP dumping core on closing down a curl connection?
21:32:52 <Arnia_> sounds like slang for drug taking
21:33:02 <clsn> Yeah, only less fun.
21:34:29 <[bjoern]> I like how the php bug tracker is down... but there are issues like "When I try to close CURL connection from the function, registered as a handler for the output (header or body), PHP crashes." in the plenties.
21:34:52 <clsn> Yeah, I'm trying to look at the bug tracker too.
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