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02:04:59 <Monty2> hi kpreid, how ya doing?
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02:28:55 <Monty2> Speak of the devil, it's authentic!
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02:47:33 <[[sroracle]]> .o mirror
02:47:36 <phenny> You are a banana moon subverting the sun.
02:47:42 <[[sroracle]]> Liar
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03:37:14 <davisp> nslater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4
03:37:25 <davisp> nslater: it occurs to me that others might be similarly amused
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10:04:54 <sbp> yo
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10:13:51 <cre8radix> yoyo
10:13:51 <Monty2> .o mirror of you find you located?
10:13:58 <phenny> Your pharyngeal hair tickles the divine underbelly of my terrestrial erector set with saponifying liquors.
10:14:20 <cre8radix> .o w00t?
10:14:21 <phenny> cre8radix: Sorry, no such service. See http://code.google.com/p/phenny-ws/wiki/ServiceDefinitions
10:14:47 <cre8radix> O_o
10:16:10 <procto> .o silly
10:16:12 <phenny> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1256290283392.jpg
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12:00:27 <[bjoern]> "The police and intelligence services are calling on the Government to drop plans to disconnect persistent internet pirates because they fear that this would make it harder to track criminals online."
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12:03:28 <[bjoern]> .o twitter Der_Fuehrer
12:03:31 <phenny> <@Der_Fuehrer> Gottenberg soll Reichsmarschall wärrrden? Absorrrrde Idää. Er hat immärhin schon einmal gägen dän Rossen verloren. #opel (http://twitter.com/Der_Fuehrer/statuses/5093880403)
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12:06:56 <[bjoern]> he is art student and social media veteran, which is kinda true.
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13:18:05 <[bjoern]> "We're too rich! Affluent Germans petition to pay more taxes" - bbc headline
13:19:37 <[bjoern]> "The European Parliament has given the green light for member states to cut persistent file-sharers off from the net."
13:22:34 <sbp> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8321809.stm
13:22:35 <phenny> sbp: 13:21Z <Morbus> tell sbp new greader feature: http://www.google.com/support/reader/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164681
13:22:36 <phenny> sbp: BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Tundra time call in clocks debate
13:23:24 <[bjoern]> So you want to be in the zone.
13:25:07 <[bjoern]> I like how they explain tundra.
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13:44:24 <[bjoern]> .c 1.03^8
13:44:24 <phenny> 1.03^8 = 1.26677008
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14:44:15 <[bjoern]> "Why don't you speak English? If it was good enough for Jesus Christ, it should be good enough for you."
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14:48:09 <OliverK> lol
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14:55:06 <[bjoern]> hehe http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/10/response-to-tsa-agents-took-my-son.html
14:55:28 <[bjoern]> I guess that puts the score to 38172368:1
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15:59:45 <Monty2> Speak of the devil, it's tommorri1!
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17:58:27 <Monty> bah, it's kpreid again
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18:16:54 <nslater> whenever i see kpreid, i read it as "decrepit"
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18:56:22 <[bjoern]> interesting http://www.focus.de/digital/internet/internet-explorer-firefox-und-co-welcher-browser-ist-der-beste_aid_359928.html
18:56:31 <[bjoern]> as much as any online poll anyway
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20:01:35 <deltab> sbp!
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20:03:02 <sbp> ooh, thanks!
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20:03:06 <Monty2> hey Jibbler
20:03:11 <sbp> I almost completely forgot
20:05:14 <sbp> the map is getting ever more hilarious
20:05:34 * Jibbler found an error in world of goo
20:05:47 <sbp> tell pls
20:05:50 <sbp> Swhackscoop
20:06:14 <sbp> I'm looking at a knotflock
20:06:48 <clsn> .ety nincompoop
20:06:50 <phenny> "1676, nicompoop." - http://etymonline.com/?term=nincompoop
20:06:58 <clsn> Yeah, remarkably helpful.
20:07:13 <deltab> .ety nicompoop
20:07:14 <phenny> Can't find the etymology for "nicompoop". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=nicompoop
20:07:19 <clsn> what map're you looking at sbp?
20:07:27 <sbp> not the best of results, aye
20:07:31 <sbp> the one on Autumnwatch
20:07:36 <Jibbler> in the game it says "and then you can talk to other peoples' digital avatars about things"
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20:10:20 <clsn> what if I don't want to talk about THINGS, but rather about IDEAS?
20:10:44 <deltab> can, not must
20:11:16 <clsn> But it's giving permission only to talk about THINGS.
20:11:24 <sbp> can, not may
20:11:28 <clsn> Does that mean we can't talk about things that aren't things?
20:11:39 <deltab> can, not tin
20:11:53 <sbp> this is getting far too sily, far too silly
20:12:21 <sbp> man I'm having a chox
20:12:48 <sbp> Jibbler: so what's the error?
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20:15:42 <Jibbler> sbp: errr the apostrophe...
20:17:01 <deltab> ‘people’ can mean “a body of a body of persons sharing an avatar”
20:17:16 <deltab> er, “a body of persons sharing a culture”
20:17:20 <sbp> ah, that was [sic]
20:17:33 <sbp> I was looking for a logical error
20:17:40 <sbp> like clsn, I suppose
20:17:51 * clsn is a logical error.
20:18:18 <sbp> hehe
20:18:18 <Arnia> Which logic?
20:18:19 <phenny> Arnia: 20:04Z <nslater> tell Arnia CouchDB in Mozilla's Raindrop (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/SoftwareArchitecture) thoughts?
20:18:34 <Arnia> Uh, Raindrop seems rather dull?
20:18:35 <clsn> Arnia: I couldn't say for certain, since it's erroneous.
20:18:39 <Arnia> That's a thought isn't it?
20:18:43 <sbp> Arnia: 13th century tatterdemalion
20:18:49 <nslater> dull?
20:18:57 <clsn> .ety tatterdemalion
20:18:57 <phenny> "'ragged child, person dressed in old clothes,' 1608, probably from tatter, with fantastic second element, but perhaps also suggested by Tartar, with a contemporary sense of 'vagabond, gypsy.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=tatterdemalion
20:19:10 <clsn> wow, it knew that? *I* didn't know that word before.
20:19:20 <sbp> 1608! ding ding! gotta look up the author
20:19:24 <sbp> I'm going for Jonson
20:19:25 <Arnia> Yeah, dull. I don't find it interesting. It looks like PlanetPlanet for email and twitter to me
20:19:27 <clsn> neet.
20:19:40 <nslater> people have been comparing it to Wave
20:20:01 <Arnia> I don't see how they're equivalent...
20:20:08 <deltab> it's about unifying communications, right?
20:20:10 <Arnia> it is a bad comparison anyway
20:20:24 <sbp> oh man, we should find that blog post
20:20:34 <sbp> 1608: Dekker!
20:20:42 <sbp> there's a Jonson quote from 1611
20:20:43 <Arnia> deltab: not exactly, wave is more about having conversations as first class objects
20:20:52 <Arnia> deltab: and that requires the funky operational transform stuff
20:20:58 <sbp> in fact, there is an alpha and a beta form
20:21:03 <sbp> Jonson in the earliest alpha form
20:21:03 <Arnia> deltab: this proposal just seems like an aggregator
20:21:04 <Monty2> :p
20:21:08 <sbp> Dekker is the earliest beta form
20:21:13 <sbp> *is
20:22:33 <sbp> hmm, Jonson did some introductory verses for Coryat
20:22:33 <sbp> didn't know that
20:22:36 <sbp> anyway
20:22:40 <Arnia> To me, it is like saying a telegram and a telephone are equivalent just because they both send messages down wires. Just because there are lots of comparisons made, doesn't mean those comparisons make sense :)
20:23:20 <deltab> they also both start with ‘tele’!
20:23:48 <sbp> and they both contain one gram
20:24:30 <deltab> both were once only available from BT?
20:24:41 <sbp> good idea, tie yourself to the boat
20:29:22 <Arnia> Which boat?
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20:32:46 <nslater> sbp: very rough (read verbose) shalias committed
20:32:54 <nslater> i will trim them down over time
20:33:29 <nslater> Arnia: "this just seems like an aggregator" - nop
20:33:43 <Arnia> What is the difference then?
20:33:49 <nslater> Arnia: i dont know anything about the details, but that they are using couchdb opens up a whole myrad additional functionality
20:34:01 <nslater> such as pushing things to other people, the cloud, websites, etc
20:34:08 <Arnia> that's just an aggregator
20:34:20 <Arnia> a social one, but still just aggregating
20:34:25 <nslater> huh? an aggregator pulls content from multiple places, and puts it into one place
20:34:30 <nslater> couchdb works both ways
20:34:34 <nslater> and i guess then that this will two
20:34:36 <nslater> too
20:34:37 <Arnia> An aggregator aggregates
20:34:42 <nslater> in one direction
20:34:53 <Arnia> ... an aggregator aggregates. It is in the name :/
20:34:59 <nslater> in one direction
20:35:19 <Arnia> no
20:35:19 <nslater> planetplanet, google news, etc - they all pull content
20:35:22 <nslater> couchdb pushes content too
20:35:26 <nslater> like email, or wave
20:35:28 <Arnia> so?
20:35:29 <Arnia> No
20:35:44 <nslater> so its fundamentally different from planetplanet, and the general idea of a web aggregator
20:35:51 <Arnia> No it isn't
20:35:56 <nslater> whatever :)
20:36:28 <Arnia> A bidirectional aggregator is not fundamentally different from a unidirectional one
20:36:45 <nslater> sure it is, "the clue is in the name". heh
20:37:01 <Arnia> How is it fundamentally different?
20:37:13 <nslater> "it is in the name"
20:37:13 <Arnia> It is just a pair of unidirectional aggregators
20:37:14 <nslater> hehe
20:37:56 <nslater> right, but i could take the reductionist view and decompose any technology like that for the sake of argument
20:38:07 <nslater> i dont think the results would be very valuable though
20:38:08 <Arnia> Wave's difference is its use of Operational Transforms to allow a shared 'conversation' to exist independent of any particular user or server.
20:38:29 <Arnia> And that's a strawman argument. I'm saying that IN THIS CASE it isn't fundamentally different
20:38:43 <Arnia> because strapping two aggregator directions together doesn't fundamentally alter their power
20:38:51 <Arnia> no matter how much marketing bullshit you throw at it
20:39:56 <nslater> you're a lot better at argument than i am, so i wont try to argue with you much more than to say it seems patently obvious that a system which can aggregate content, and then PUSH IT BACK out to other aggregators, selected people, and the web is *plainly* functionally different from the traditional model of something like planetplanet, which just sucks and then provides you with a webpage and rss feed
20:40:17 <nslater> note: selectively push out
20:40:21 <Arnia> then I suggest, kindly, that you think more carefully about the scenario
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20:40:37 <Arnia> because it really isn't fundamentally different. Different, yes. But it isn't game changingly different
20:40:54 <nslater> you show me another aggregator that allows peer-to-peer replication
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20:41:06 <Arnia> That's not interesting really
20:41:09 <Arnia> that's been solved for years
20:41:17 <nslater> with what?
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20:41:46 <Arnia> JINI for a start
20:42:00 <nslater> .wik JINI
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20:42:02 <phenny> "Jini (pronounced like genie i.e. /ˈdʒini/) and also called Apache River is a network architecture for the construction of distributed systems in the form of modular co-operating services." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JINI
20:42:03 <Arnia> but the peer-to-peer knowledge sharing problem is old hat
20:42:24 <Arnia> the problem is peer-to-peer transformation of knowledge, and this system does NOT solve that
20:42:40 <Arnia> it doesn't even seem to be aware of the issue
20:42:42 <nslater> right, but is there any other application that works with the web of existing data, aggregates it for you personally, and allows push as well as pull, as well as distributed peer-to-peer replication. because if there is, i certainly aint heard of it
20:42:52 <nslater> but really, i only care because they're using my software. and i think that's neet
20:43:01 <Arnia> I just consider it to be dull
20:43:08 <Arnia> which is my point
20:43:12 <nslater> k
20:43:27 <nslater> i dont know anything about the raindrop application really
20:43:55 <Arnia> I only know what I've speed-absorbed over the past few minutes
20:43:57 <nslater> like i said, i only care because they're using couchdb and its mozilla (which is a big thing for us, we're still small)
20:44:27 <Arnia> tbh, I consider couchdb to be quite dull too :)
20:44:58 <nslater> mkay
20:44:58 <Arnia> I find it hard to get excited about most deployed technology because most deployed technology is using ideas 20 to 30 years old ;)
20:45:01 <[bjoern]> .gc visiophone
20:45:02 <phenny> visiophone: 16,900
20:45:04 <[bjoern]> .gc +visiopho
20:45:05 <phenny> +visiopho: 50
20:45:09 <[bjoern]> .gc +visiophon
20:45:10 <phenny> +visiophon: 157
20:45:12 <[bjoern]> .gc +visiophone
20:45:13 <nslater> 30 years old? wut?
20:45:14 <phenny> +visiophone: 16,200
20:46:18 <Arnia> It seems to take 20 or more years for an idea in database theory, UI design, etc to get from research papers to people's homes (see, good apostrophe use)
20:47:00 <Arnia> This has lead me to feel quite depressed recently given I'd quite like to see my research accepted in the applied world
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20:47:59 <deltab> you have to convince people it's really decades old :-)
20:50:39 <[bjoern]> Just discovered where Spaceballs had the ludicrous speed joke from
20:50:52 <[bjoern]> .wik Raumpatrouille Orion
20:50:53 <phenny> "Raumpatrouille – Die phantastischen Abenteuer des Raumschiffes Orion (literal translation - Space Patrol - the fantastic adventures of the spaceship Orion), colloquially also known as Raumpatrouille Orion, and Space Patrol Orion in English, was the first German [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumpatrouille_Orion
20:50:57 <[bjoern]> That's where
20:51:30 <Arnia> but did they also have the tartan?
20:52:07 <[bjoern]> What's that? I only watch the german original of spaceballs. The english one is not very funny.
20:52:58 <deltab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0
20:53:03 <[bjoern]> .title
20:53:04 <phenny> [bjoern]: YouTube - Spaceballs - They've gone into plaid
20:53:47 <deltab> http://rlv.zcache.com/ludicrous_speed_tshirt-p235383929972291209t5hl_400.jpg
20:54:14 <[bjoern]> That is a good question then, I haven't watched much of it yet
20:56:27 <[bjoern]> Though given that it's black and white, I have some doubts.
20:57:36 <[bjoern]> had a market share of 56% when it first aired.
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21:38:44 <[bjoern]> .gc "Kraut Trek"
21:38:45 <phenny> "Kraut Trek": 0
21:39:33 <[[sroracle]]> .gc Python T-shirt
21:39:34 <phenny> Python T-shirt: 143,000
21:39:37 <[[sroracle]]> :O
21:39:40 * [[sroracle]] googles
21:41:08 <[[sroracle]]> Nices
21:41:10 <[[sroracle]]> http://www.zazzle.com/python_t_shirts-235765808240894619
21:41:32 <[[sroracle]]> Seems a bit pricy
21:41:36 <[[sroracle]]> pricey*
21:41:51 <[bjoern]> .title
21:41:53 <phenny> [bjoern]: Python T-shirts from Zazzle.com
21:43:28 <[[sroracle]]> I was hoping it'd just be the logo anyway
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21:43:30 <Monty2> hi kpreid
21:43:34 <[[sroracle]]> It has the text as well
21:44:11 <[bjoern]> kpreid, welcome to Swhack. Please collection your welcome package at the reception.
21:44:43 <[bjoern]> kpreid, your current account reads: 2 CAD for swhack services.
21:45:35 <[[sroracle]]> I got no welcome package when I joined. :@
21:46:01 <[bjoern]> That's because we're collectively annoyed by your nickname.
21:46:15 <[[sroracle]]> Everyone is.
21:46:23 <[bjoern]> That's what I said.
21:46:25 * [[sroracle]] cries in a corner
21:46:34 <[[sroracle]]> I meant across freenode
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21:49:10 <[bjoern]> phenny, "Eliminieren sie Gordon mit Overkill, das ist ein Befehl der Weltregierung!"?
21:49:11 <phenny> [bjoern]: "They eliminate Gordon with overkill, this is an order of the world government!" (de to en, translate.google.com)
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21:49:26 <[bjoern]> Google doesn't grok the imperative apparently
21:51:11 <[bjoern]> I wonder if they ever did an experiment where they blew up something in space?
21:51:50 <deltab> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
21:51:50 <phenny> deltab: BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Concern over China's missile test
21:52:31 <deltab> or were you referring to Google?
21:52:53 <[bjoern]> no video footage... no I was wondering about verifying s-f special effects
21:53:31 <deltab> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8321967.stm
21:53:34 <phenny> deltab: BBC NEWS | Europe | Rich Germans demand higher taxes
21:53:57 <[bjoern]> Yeah I quoted that early, the second to last para is nice I think
21:54:15 <[bjoern]> ah no the last one
21:54:38 <[bjoern]> nearby, "Former Pc jailed for on-duty sex"
21:55:03 <deltab> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8318226.stm
21:55:05 <phenny> deltab: BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Leaping wolf snatches photo prize
21:55:22 <deltab> try not to wave your prize around when there are wolves about
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21:55:35 <[bjoern]> k
21:56:41 <deltab> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/sci_nat_enl_1256137079/html/1.stm — springtail vs. snowflakes
21:59:20 <jsled> phenny: ask sbp if he'd mind adding ##homebrew to phenny's join list, please? If she's overworked, I can easily run one locally, nbd.
21:59:21 <phenny> jsled: I'll pass that on when sbp is around.
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22:01:38 <Monty2> hi griff, how ya doing?
22:12:31 <deltab> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/SuDhX3XFpHI/AAAAAAAAEyM/kanYTZivPYY/s400/magic.png
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22:13:50 <jsled> deltab: are you a greader user? Have you had any success with sort by magic?
22:15:14 <deltab> I'm not
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22:56:15 <nslater> hehehe, so crazy to see copy that i wrote in a professional news article
22:56:16 <nslater> http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Mozillas-Raindrop-to-Provide-a-Tidy-In-Box-for-Everything-68457.html?wlc=1256338201
22:56:21 <nslater> Arnia: ^^
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22:59:00 <Arnia> eh, dull
22:59:08 <Arnia> duller than I thought actually
22:59:25 <Arnia> never mind; it leaves space open for interesting stuff
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