2009-11-01 Swhack IRC Log

00:43:04 <[bjoern]> .o wa time since 10th november 1483
00:43:08 <phenny> Monday, November 10, 1483 (extrapolated Gregorian calendar) to current time;525 years 11 months 21 days 17 hours 43 minutes 7 seconds;525 years 11 months 21.03 days;27444 weeks 1.03 days;192109 days;526 years;4.611x10^6 hours;2.766x10^8 minutes;1.66x10^10 seconds
00:48:14 <[bjoern]> It's Larry Flint's 67th birthday.
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10:11:14 <Monty2> Thank goodness, danja_ is back!
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10:15:08 <sbp> wow. one of the top news stories today is:
10:15:10 <sbp> 'Stephen Fry has made online peace with another user of the micro-blogging site Twitter who called his posts "boring".'
10:15:34 <sbp> might be a good idea to ignore the news today...
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10:17:36 <sbp> pfft, wa doesn't even know about the word "proleptic"
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10:42:15 <Monty2> hi cre8radix
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11:35:56 <[bjoern]> happy mailman day.
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11:49:04 <[bjoern]> 'Stephen Fry has made online peace with another user of the micro-blogging site Twitter who called his posts "boring"'
11:51:07 <[bjoern]> "Councillors in a rural town have staged a mass resignation after becoming tired of criticism from a blogger."
11:52:52 <[bjoern]> .c 1 AUD in EUR
11:52:52 <phenny> 1 Australian dollar = 0.611352526 Euros
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12:01:22 <Monty2> hi danja_
12:06:27 <sbp> 10:14 <sbp> wow. one of the top news stories today is:
12:06:28 <sbp> 10:14 <sbp> 'Stephen Fry has made online peace with another user of the micro-blogging site Twitter who called his posts "boring".'
12:06:28 <sbp> 10:15 <sbp> might be a good idea to ignore the news today...
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12:36:36 <sbp> Abu Dhabi GP
12:36:42 <sbp> they're interviewing Boris Becker on the grid
12:36:47 <[bjoern]> Why?
12:36:53 <sbp> looks like Becker is supporting Hamilton
12:37:14 <[bjoern]> Now that ... greatly affects everybody.
12:37:18 <sbp> Becker is consistently voted the UK's favourite German by the way
12:37:38 <sbp> what's Germany's favourite Brit? Kevin Keegan?
12:37:44 <[bjoern]> Yeah, so, he's not being voted a favourite german in germany.
12:37:50 <[bjoern]> Who's that?
12:37:52 <sbp> heh, heh
12:37:57 <sbp> they only like him in Hamburg
12:38:04 <sbp> so if you're not a Hamburger you won't understand
12:38:49 <sbp> we were hoping for an all British front row
12:39:02 <sbp> apparently we haven't had one since like 1996
12:39:29 <sbp> Eddie Jordan interviewing Lewis now
12:39:53 <sbp> Martin Brundle almost got wiped out by a Renault
12:40:53 <[bjoern]> I wonder then if Boris-Becker.TV is more popular in the uk...
12:41:04 <sbp> I somewhat doubt it
12:41:20 <sbp> especially if it's all in Switz. we don't understand Switz
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12:42:05 <sbp> heh. random appearance by Flintoff
12:42:20 <sbp> Richard Branson
12:42:38 <sbp> he turned a quad bike over. he's in a sling
12:43:26 <sbp> Jay Kay
12:44:23 <sbp> they're picking up more celebs than drivers
12:44:26 <sbp> they did Mark Weber
12:44:35 <sbp> Crown Prince...
12:45:01 <sbp> of Bahrain
12:45:54 <sbp> grid walk over
12:45:59 <sbp> hope the race is that good
12:46:24 <[bjoern]> english wikipedia does not even mention Becker's prison sentence (he does not like paying taxes).
12:47:18 <sbp> yeah, tennis players never do
12:47:35 <sbp> Martin with the king of Spain now
12:47:42 <sbp> he's meant to be going up to the commentary box
12:47:57 <sbp> huh. was that Jacques Villeneuve?
12:49:11 <sbp> showing DC and Martin both going round the track
12:49:14 <[bjoern]> Is he still not winning F1 races?
12:49:18 <sbp> yeah
12:49:27 <[bjoern]> He could make that a carreer
12:50:11 <sbp> they're overtaking and commentating, heh
12:50:47 <[bjoern]> He's since been not winning NASCAR I take it.
12:51:07 <sbp> isn't Montoya in that too?
12:51:49 <[bjoern]> Montoya apparently quit that too already
12:52:10 <sbp> win
12:52:53 <[bjoern]> ah no wikipedia just didn't list it in the sidebox
12:53:15 <[bjoern]> 'On October 24, 2009, Montoya was the victim of a racial stereotype during ESPN's coverage of a college football game between Ohio State and Minnesota. During a break from the action, the commentators were discussing the NASCAR Sprint Cup chase. Commentator Chris Spielman remarked on Montoya's poor performance in the chase, and in response Bob Griese said: "He's out having a taco."'
12:53:19 <sbp> race in SEVEN MONITES!
12:53:31 <sbp> a victim of racial stereotype?
12:54:08 <[bjoern]> I don't know, must a be a Usian thing.
12:54:22 <sbp> taco?
12:54:36 <[bjoern]> That too.
12:55:28 <sbp> funny. apparently this race is (c) 2007
12:55:41 <sbp> maybe that was the trademark. but you can't copyright a trademark?
12:55:53 <sbp> so yeah, this is a new race
12:56:03 <sbp> and it's going to be the first one to start in the light and finish in the dark
12:56:09 <sbp> not sure what the overtaking is going to be like
12:56:13 <[bjoern]> With all races appearing the same, shouldn't the copyright be effective much earlier?
12:57:27 <sbp> 404 Humorous response not found
12:57:52 <sbp> (thank you for this all purpose idiom)
12:58:08 <sbp> everybody's saying that Lewis should cane this race
12:58:32 <[bjoern]> He could cone it too, that might make it exciting.
12:58:44 <sbp> I almost write acne it
12:58:49 <sbp> *wrote
12:59:01 <sbp> I almost wrote wrote but then I wrote write
12:59:24 <sbp> okay, GBR and GER on front row
12:59:27 <[bjoern]> Now you write wrote and write.
12:59:32 <sbp> I say whoever makes it to the first corner first is the winning country
12:59:43 <[bjoern]> It's like Swhack had grown wheels
12:59:43 <sbp> yeah I wrote wrote and write, right
12:59:45 <[bjoern]> and grid girls
12:59:53 <sbp> j'approve
13:00:12 <sbp> parade lap
13:02:55 <sbp> forming up on the grid
13:03:25 <sbp> this track cost a billion dollars or something
13:03:38 <sbp> start
13:03:41 <[bjoern]> Last chance to rearrange various body parts for maximum comfort
13:03:47 <sbp> HAM miles clear
13:03:50 <sbp> VET still 2nd
13:03:56 <sbp> no crashes
13:04:11 <sbp> Vettel challenging
13:05:27 <[bjoern]> ... and now you wish once more for a real time fast forward button.
13:05:32 <sbp> processional so far, except for Trulli and Kubica
13:05:59 <sbp> yeah, everybody's wondering how the track is going to be for overtaking
13:06:09 <sbp> my suspicion is: less than average
13:08:45 <[bjoern]> Call the stats guy and have them tell us how many times successful genuine overtaking has taken place this season.
13:09:13 <sbp> Kovalainen actually made up five places in the first few laps
13:09:23 <sbp> ...but they didn't show it
13:09:50 <sbp> bits of Barrichello's car showered over Button, and Button got by
13:10:23 <[bjoern]> Well the first few laps mostly correct misplacements on the starting grid.
13:10:47 <sbp> trudat
13:11:04 <[bjoern]> From what I recall, if the other car is obviously faster than you are, you have to let it pass.
13:11:32 <sbp> you're not allowed to block the car behind more than once
13:11:38 <sbp> because, you know, that would be racing
13:12:39 <sbp> Lewis is only 1.3 ahead
13:12:45 <sbp> not getting away like they thought
13:12:53 <sbp> he'll probably need a bigger cushion when pitting
13:13:32 <[bjoern]> .leo Dauerwerbesendung
13:13:33 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Dauerwerbesendung
13:14:28 <sbp> weird frozeb reoky sunykatuin if the start...
13:14:36 <sbp> weird frozen reply simulation of...
13:14:57 <sbp> Thongswickerslop?
13:15:05 <[bjoern]> Yes, thank you.
13:15:45 <sbp> phenny: "Dauerwerbesendung"?
13:15:46 <phenny> sbp: Language guessing failed, so try suggesting one!
13:15:59 <sbp> oh come on, what do you think it is? Spanish?
13:16:01 <sbp> phenny: de "Dauerwerbesendung"?
13:16:01 <phenny> sbp: "Infomercial" (de to en, translate.google.com)
13:16:42 <sbp> McLaren admit Lewis is not currently doing enough
13:16:59 <[bjoern]> it's more like a, perpetual advertisement show
13:17:13 <sbp> Perpadshow
13:18:15 <sbp> wow, there's like a 300yd Ferrari logo on the top of something here
13:19:20 <[bjoern]> Schumacher's butt?
13:19:36 <sbp> nope, they're currently talking about the Trulli train
13:19:53 <[bjoern]> I don't think he's allowed to drive a train in the race.
13:20:01 <[bjoern]> But I have not checked regulations recently.
13:20:02 <sbp> nobody told him that
13:20:06 <sbp> hey
13:20:09 <sbp> there's Schumacher and Massa
13:20:16 <[bjoern]> See, I knew it.
13:20:25 <sbp> didn't see his butt though
13:20:43 <sbp> GER could well win this race
13:21:03 <sbp> though, GBR fastest lap there, which is what's needed
13:21:23 <[bjoern]> Yeah, we are really good at "could".
13:21:23 <sbp> still not good enough, unless he does that basically every lap for the next six laps
13:22:35 <sbp> ugh, big mistake from GBR
13:22:47 <sbp> huge lock up, he ran wide
13:22:56 <[bjoern]> You are really good at those
13:23:01 <sbp> lost 0.8 seconds
13:26:05 <sbp> Vettel even closer now
13:28:03 <sbp> the new Japanese driver, Korbyashi, has been doing very well
13:30:06 <sbp> Lewis's engineers are all "gah"
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13:30:16 <sbp> looks like he might be 3rd, or worse
13:30:20 <sbp> given his appalling pace
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13:30:50 <sbp> there was a suggestion it may have been the tyres
13:32:03 <[bjoern]> Yes, it says on the first page of the f1 manual, in doubt, blame the tyres.
13:44:02 <[bjoern]> slashdot insult of the day "This isn't even fit for idle"
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13:52:47 <sbp> 13:32 <sbp> there's a cool tunnel leading from the pits back to the track
13:52:47 <sbp> 13:32 <sbp> Lewis pitting
13:52:47 <sbp> 13:32 <sbp> GER leading
13:52:47 <sbp> 13:33 <sbp> Korbyasi trying to overtake Button
13:52:47 <sbp> 13:33 <sbp> gets by
13:52:48 <sbp> 13:34 <sbp> that was the most exciting bit of the race so far, heh
13:52:50 <sbp> 13:34 <sbp> Lewis still ahead of Weber at least
13:52:52 <sbp> 13:35 <sbp> Vettel should be just ahead
13:52:56 <sbp> 13:35 <sbp> might be a right rear brake problem for Lewis
13:52:58 <sbp> 13:35 <sbp> ...woah. weird
13:53:00 <sbp> 13:36 <sbp> not sure what's going on with Torro Rosso. they shooed him out of the pit lane to make way for Vettel
13:53:03 <sbp> 13:36 <sbp> GER miles ahead
13:53:05 <sbp> 13:37 <sbp> they're clearing a space in the McLaren garage
13:53:07 <sbp> 13:37 <sbp> so one is out
13:53:09 <sbp> 13:37 <sbp> it's Lewis
13:53:11 <sbp> 13:38 <sbp> grumble
13:53:13 <sbp> 13:38 <sbp> ah, the Toro Rosso tried to pit in the Red Bull garage
13:53:15 <sbp> 13:38 <sbp> lols
13:53:17 <sbp> 13:40 <sbp> hmm. Martin Whitmarsh is talking to Lewis saying that the data suggests there's a problem, but they may take it off and find there's no problem
13:53:20 <sbp> 13:40 <sbp> Kobayashi is 3rd now
13:55:16 <sbp> Kobyashi into the pits
13:56:38 <[bjoern]> Hamilton and Vettel might have swapped cars before the race.
13:56:46 <sbp> q-mebbles
14:02:36 <sbp> any comments on the race, Monty?
14:02:38 <Monty2> now I'm trying to both sides?
14:02:52 <sbp> Monty: trying to WHAT both sides?
14:02:53 <Monty2> chox
14:02:54 <sbp> ah
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14:26:46 <sbp> GER AUS GBR so far
14:38:04 <sbp> end
14:38:08 <sbp> awesome last lap
14:39:02 <sbp> chequered flag on the hotel
14:39:29 <sbp> Vettel is happy
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14:43:48 <sbp> heh, Martin says doughnuts should be mandatory
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15:15:57 <[bjoern]> Yay, first german f1 win since Merkel became chancellor again!
15:17:37 <sbp> yay...
15:18:13 <[bjoern]> also first british fail since they fired nutt.
15:18:33 <sbp> ugh. trying to listen to some BBC archive thing, but because the BBC don't allow download because they're complete idiots, and because their streaming apparently doesn't buffer properly, I can't listen to it
15:19:03 <sbp> [bjoern]: another of the advisors has quit in protest
15:19:08 <sbp> [bjoern]: also, Wolfram Alpha:
15:19:18 <sbp> "(extrapolated Gregorian calendar)"
15:19:19 <[bjoern]> everything is commencing as nutt had forseen
15:19:23 <sbp> the correct word is "proleptic"
15:19:48 <[bjoern]> you say that because one is more confusing than the other
15:20:52 <sbp> hmm. <connection kind="akamai" identifier="mp3:archive/white/OAT_BBC_8317" server="cp47317.edgefcs.net" tokenIssuer="akamaiUk" />
15:20:57 <sbp> any way to turn that into a URI?
15:21:08 <[bjoern]> sure
15:21:15 <[bjoern]> data:xml,...
15:21:23 <sbp> .head http://cp47317.edgefcs.net/archive/white/OAT_BBC_8317
15:21:24 <phenny> Can't connect to http://cp47317.edgefcs.net/archive/white/OAT_BBC_8317
15:21:26 <sbp> .head http://cp47317.edgefcs.net/archive/white/OAT_BBC_8317.mp3
15:21:26 <phenny> Can't connect to http://cp47317.edgefcs.net/archive/white/OAT_BBC_8317.mp3
15:21:33 <[bjoern]> there are various uri scheme efforts in that area too
15:21:36 <sbp> xml,?
15:21:43 <[bjoern]> not sure if metalink is one of them
15:21:50 <[bjoern]> well i did not want to type it all
15:22:06 <sbp> you were more happy typing the xml bit than the application bit?
15:22:14 <[bjoern]> xml short
15:22:28 <sbp> .g OAT_BBC_8317
15:22:29 <phenny> sbp: No results found for 'OAT_BBC_8317'.
15:22:36 <[bjoern]> .gd oat
15:22:37 <phenny> oat: annual grass of Europe and North Africa; grains used as food and fodder (referred to primarily in the plural: `oats') 
15:24:41 <sbp> gah. really annoyed at BBCfail right now
15:26:34 <sbp> .gd nutt
15:26:35 <phenny> nutt: Thomas Nuttall (January 5, 1786 - September 10, 1859) was an English botanist and zoologist, who lived and worked in America from 1808 until 1841.
15:26:58 <[bjoern]> He studied oat.
15:27:11 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pow01.jpg
15:28:00 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pow06.jpg - space football in Brazil
15:28:06 <[bjoern]> All handing in their application for same sex marriage with him.
15:28:46 <[bjoern]> He in turn grabs the youngest girl in the crowd.
15:28:57 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pow07.jpg - man jumps a food queue, gets the shit beaten out of him by police, much to the amusement of the others in the queue who waited their turn politely
15:29:23 <sbp> (that's not a joke caption by the way)
15:29:41 * [bjoern] has business ideas around lash-with-sandale-at-one-end
15:30:24 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pow11.jpg - a German man with a broken foot
15:30:38 <[bjoern]> You are developing a pictorial foot fetish
15:31:06 <[bjoern]> .leo Blauhelm
15:31:07 <phenny> der Blauhelm = blue helmet, soldier of the United Nations (pol.), UN soldier
15:31:08 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Blauhelm
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15:31:59 <sbp> stupid BBC
15:32:20 <[bjoern]> .o wa 2*2^n
15:32:23 <phenny> 2 2^n;2^(n+1);n->1->2->3->4->5, value->4->8->16->32->64;2+2 n log(2)+n^2 log^2(2)+1/3 n^3 log^3(2)+1/12 n^4 log^4(2)+1/60 n^5 log^5(2)+1/360 n^6 log^6(2)+O(n^7);d/dn(2 2^n) = 2^(n+1) log(2); integral 2 2^n dn = 2^(n+1)/(log(2))+constant;lim_(n-&gt;-infinity) 2^(1+n) = 0;2^(1+n) = sum_(nu=0)^infinity(n^nu 2 log^nu(2))/(nu!)
15:32:30 <sbp> nu!
15:32:46 <[bjoern]> yes
15:33:16 <[bjoern]> oh http://products.wolframalpha.com/api/
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15:34:22 <sbp> tell it to the face of the one we call nsh
15:37:21 <sbp> what could Handschuhgürtelwechseln be a euphemism for?
15:37:55 <sbp> there'd be more pix if my connection wasn't almost entirely broken, by the way
15:39:37 <[bjoern]> With my first internet connection at home we were happy if we could dial in at all and then get an im chat going. Past midnight browsing became more reasonable, and as the sun rose, we considered turning on images.
15:41:34 <sbp> yes, I'm very grateful for my broken connection
15:41:41 <sbp> I can still do many useful and hilarious things with it
15:41:45 <sbp> such as boycott twitter
15:41:50 <[bjoern]> hehe
15:42:15 <sbp> probably I just need to reset my router again
15:42:26 <sbp> which brings me to a lesson: never put your router in the room where you aren't
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15:44:52 <[bjoern]> You could book your way to it under "sports"
15:54:13 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pod02.jpg
15:54:13 <Monty2> Grant that country
15:55:12 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1029pod14.jpg
15:55:58 <[bjoern]> It's rumpelstiltskin finalising a contract.
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15:58:49 <[bjoern]> the english rumpelstiltskin translation really awful
15:59:19 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1027pod02.jpg — Captain Smart says "don't even think about it"
15:59:20 <[bjoern]> "And oh! I am glad that nobody knew / That the name I am called is Rumpelstiltskin" does not even rhyme
15:59:34 <[bjoern]> "ach, wie gut dass niemand weiß, dass ich Rumpelstilzchen heiß!" does.
16:00:10 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1027pod11.jpg — a race designed to improve marriages
16:00:25 <[bjoern]> Perhaps he's applying for the School of the Americas
16:00:46 <[bjoern]> Is that the actual caption?
16:00:54 <[bjoern]> send link to original
16:01:46 <sbp> that's the actual caption, yeah. heh
16:01:58 <sbp> closed original
16:02:20 <[bjoern]> I saw that coming
16:02:32 <sbp> original might be in http://blogs.wsj.com/photojournal/2009/10/27/pictures-of-the-day-291/
16:02:41 <sbp> can't confirm that yet because DID I MENTION MY CONNECTION SUCKS?
16:02:46 <[bjoern]> also one step ahead of you with crafting data:text/html,<img%20src='http://online.wsj.com/media/1027pod11.jpg'><br>a%20race%20designed%20to%20improve%20marriages
16:03:01 <[bjoern]> That's now your excuse for everything
16:03:53 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1022pow15.jpg — American police dispense swift justice to a terrorist deer
16:04:13 <[bjoern]> but what if it had valuable intelligence?
16:04:33 <sbp> haha: http://online.wsj.com/media/1022pow21_J_20091023171506.jpg — "A police officer blocked a shoe during a demonstration outside the Queen Elizabeth Hotel, where former U.S. President George W. Bush was speaking on Thursday in Montreal. (Ryan Remiorz/Associated Press)"
16:04:33 <Monty2> "you"
16:04:37 <sbp> they'll waterboard it later
16:04:40 <[bjoern]> Could shop the deer " free tibet" shirt or something
16:04:44 <sbp> you.S. President, Monty?
16:04:45 <Monty2> <foo><bar>1</bar><bar>2</bar></foo>
16:04:48 <[bjoern]> It does not look waterboardable
16:05:00 <sbp> I'm sure they wouldn't mind trying
16:05:48 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1022pow28.jpg — er, wow. this is what happens when a propane tank explodes
16:05:57 <[bjoern]> They'd call it stuffing presumably
16:06:13 <sbp> "A couple competed in a race designed to improve marriages in Hefei, Anhui province, China, Monday. (Agence France-Presse/Getty Images)"
16:06:25 <[bjoern]> Yeah I found it long ago
16:06:51 <sbp> Monty: be witty at [bjoern] for me
16:06:53 <Monty2> yeah, I really matter what exactly is funny
16:07:04 <sbp> YEAH! take that, [bjoern]
16:07:30 <[bjoern]> Stock und Stein bricht mir's Gebein, doch kein Sprüchlein kann bös mir sein.
16:09:19 <sbp> cat [bjoern] | google-translate > scary.txt
16:10:13 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1022pod03.jpg — they're having sex with their eyes
16:10:38 <[bjoern]> the google translation is actually kinda hilarious
16:10:42 <sbp> yeah
16:10:43 <[bjoern]> the one I'm getting anyway
16:11:04 <sbp> mine too is funny so I will assume they are idempotent in the ass
16:12:07 <[bjoern]> .gc "Lieder gegen den Frieden"
16:12:08 <phenny> "Lieder gegen den Frieden": 2
16:12:12 <[bjoern]> .gc "Lieder wider dem Frieden"
16:12:13 <phenny> "Lieder wider dem Frieden": 0
16:12:27 <sbp> "leave me gagging then free me"
16:12:34 <sbp> "leave me gaping then free me"
16:14:38 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1022pod16.jpg — LEFT at Euclid Avenue. LEFT!
16:15:01 <[bjoern]> well placed stop sign
16:15:47 <[bjoern]> even more so if you are used to drive on the wrong side.
16:16:48 <sbp> "we have to understand that science is not always about the truth"
16:17:00 <sbp> — Lord Winston, Professor of Science & Society, Imperial College London
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16:17:09 <sbp> (over the drugs advisory row)
16:17:10 <[bjoern]> It's about falsehoods.
16:20:07 <sbp> Lord Winston says research shows again that Prof. Nutt's stance is correct
16:20:12 <sbp> er, shows again and again
16:20:23 <sbp> and that it was right, as an expert, for him to say it
16:21:25 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1021pod11.jpg — caption not needed
16:23:51 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1019pod08.jpg — ah this is the girl that I saw fall on her head during a spin. she's okay apparently
16:24:26 <sbp> nobody helped her for aaages
16:27:35 <[bjoern]> .leo Vogelstrauss
16:28:14 <[bjoern]> looks like leo is taking a nap
16:28:21 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Vogelstrauss
16:32:38 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1015pow21.jpg — "wait a moment kid. looks like... yup, there's a president on your forehead"
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16:34:01 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1016pod06.jpg — "ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD / FREEDOM CAN GO TO HELL"?
16:36:27 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1015pod12.jpg — "Swedish Minister for Enterprise and Energy Maud Olofsson drove a heavy dumpster simulator in Umea, Sweden, Thursday. (Pontus Lundahl/Scanpix via Reuters)"
16:37:37 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1015pod16.jpg — Black and Gold Hitler gnomes in a small town in Germany. (??)
16:38:41 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1014pod05.jpg — auch aus Deutschland, eine Szene viel weniger lustig
16:39:32 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1014pod08.jpg — "A soldier demonstrated his skills at a base near the village of Okolitsa" — I wonder how useful this actually is in battle?
16:40:08 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1014pod11.jpg — another well placed STOP sign
16:43:46 <sbp> http://online.wsj.com/media/1012pod15.jpg
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16:52:47 <sbp> .gc "GRAFFITI KEEPS ME CLEAN"
16:52:47 <phenny> "GRAFFITI KEEPS ME CLEAN": 58
16:52:48 <Monty2> eyups
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16:58:36 <[bjoern]> They should have "LEGALIZE MASTURBATION" signs instead.
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17:00:31 <sbp> .g BBC Odd Box
17:00:32 <phenny> sbp: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/entertainment/newsbeat_odd_box.shtml
17:00:36 <sbp> [bjoern]: can you load the Odd Box video?
17:00:44 <sbp> there's a clip about the snogging record attempt in Germany
17:00:50 <sbp> and a man says a fast phrase in German
17:00:58 <sbp> which may or may not contain luls
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17:01:42 <[bjoern]> need real/wmp
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17:17:00 <sbp> ...hehe
17:17:07 <sbp> "JOHN REDWOOD MP / Conservative"
17:17:19 <sbp> a persistent caption beneath Darling...
17:17:45 <[bjoern]> hmm at the Swedish minister up there
17:18:00 <sbp> yeah, that was an especially good one
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17:18:52 <[bjoern]> No red gnomes?
17:19:22 <sbp> no red gnomes
17:19:40 <sbp> and only one gold for that matter
17:21:24 <[bjoern]> is the guy in the türkis shirt running into the stop sign?
17:22:13 <[bjoern]> .ety turquoise
17:22:14 <phenny> "precious stone, 1567, replacement from M.Fr. of M.E. turkeis, turtogis (1398), from O.Fr. turqueise, fem. adj. 'Turkish,' in pierre turqueise 'Turkish stone,' so called because it was first brought to Europe from Turkestan or some other Turkish dominion (Sinai [...]" - http://etymonline.com/?term=turquoise
17:22:57 <sbp> yeah but he doesn't realise he's doing it
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17:31:53 <[bjoern]> it is only now that i realize ackbar ~ barack
17:33:38 <sbp> you and your perl6 operators
17:34:08 <[bjoern]> What does ~ do in Perl6? The smartmatch is ~~
17:34:19 <[bjoern]> I use "~" as "relates to in some obvious way"
17:34:44 <sbp> I think ~ is the concatenation operator now, isn't it?
17:34:53 <[bjoern]> quite possibly so
17:35:03 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say "a" ~ "b"
17:35:05 <p6eval> rakudo d154eb: OUTPUT«ab␤»
17:35:05 <sbp> it'll all change tomorrow
17:35:14 <sbp> especially with infix:<~>
17:35:40 <[bjoern]> rakudo: say &say ~ &infix:<+>
17:35:43 <p6eval> rakudo d154eb: OUTPUT«sayinfix:+␤»
17:35:52 <sbp> that's funny. they're showing that anti-cannabis advert where a man has various now generally disproven side effects
17:36:23 <sbp> that's funny
17:36:40 <sbp> the Home Secretary has said he fired Prof. Nutt because Prof. Nutt kept repeating his research's findings
17:36:46 <[bjoern]> .img That's no spoon
17:36:47 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/thats_no_spoon_large.jpg
17:36:48 <phenny> More here: http://images.google.com/images?q=That%27s%20no%20spoon
17:36:51 <sbp> and that this therefore constituted "campaigning", and not scientific evidence
17:37:54 <[bjoern]> omg expert advisor repeats scientifically backed advise
17:40:59 <[bjoern]> 'Another possible origin is people seeking to emulate the German Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha altered and anglicized "Grüß Gott!", or "God bless!" into "Great Scott!"'
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17:43:09 <Monty2> howdy, nwalsh
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18:08:27 <griff> whoa
18:08:34 <griff> sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP sbp SBP
18:08:39 <griff> + sbp
18:08:47 <griff> how's it going yo
18:08:50 <sbp> thx u for greetings
18:08:54 <griff> no, thx u
18:08:54 <Monty2> "you"
18:09:08 <sbp> just having the news breathe over my face
18:09:23 <griff> how's that going for you?
18:10:15 <sbp> the media's breath stinks
18:10:18 <sbp> so not all that great
18:10:23 <griff> I understand.
18:10:35 <sbp> though we do have a great permastory here now about drugs advice
18:10:45 <griff> hahaha yeah
18:10:50 <sbp> the government set up a panel of independent medical adviso... ah, you've heard
18:10:55 <griff> how's that nutt sack doing.
18:11:05 <sbp> well today the Home Secretary gave his reasons for firing him
18:11:28 <sbp> apparently Prof. Nutt had stated the results of his findings too often, so that the Home Secretary now considers him to have been "campaigning"
18:11:40 <sbp> two other advisory board members have now resigned in protest
18:12:06 <sbp> because, like, if you state scientific evidence once, it's science
18:12:07 <griff> squelching an advisory board's advice sounds more like campaigning than anything
18:12:08 <Monty2> [22:52] <nslater_> phenny did Mark Weber at adding the sense as in, in #tumbolia (447), #couchdb
18:12:09 <sbp> twice, still science
18:12:15 <sbp> three times, CAMPAINING!
18:12:18 <sbp> yeah, it's awesome
18:12:28 <sbp> because it's like, "you're not telling me what I want to hear, therefore you must have some kind of political bias"
18:12:29 <Monty2> .w obsequious
18:12:29 <phenny> obsequious — adjective: 1. (archaic) Obedient, compliant with someone else's orders or wishes, 2. Excessively eager to please or to obey all instructions; fawning, subservient
18:13:03 <griff> well, this is an old old situation
18:13:22 <sbp> damn these independent but Labour convened commissions whose results conflict with Labour policy. damn their political biases
18:13:37 <griff> scientists' findings don't jive with the powers that be, sabotage/corruption, profit
18:13:37 <griff> etc
18:13:44 <nslater> wibs
18:14:12 <sbp> yeah, it's just surprising how seriously inept the government have been at handling it
18:14:14 <griff> just look at TETRAETHYL lead
18:14:23 <sbp> in times gone by, the advisors would just "disappear" or something
18:14:24 <griff> It's reassuring that the government is inept
18:14:32 <sbp> indeed I think there was a recent case in the UK about that, wasn't there...
18:14:50 <griff> putin would have never let it get this big!
18:14:57 <sbp> (Dr. David Kelly)
18:15:14 <nslater> griff: did you know that putin is actually just a nickname
18:15:20 <griff> No, I didn't
18:15:35 <nslater> griff: he is so called because when at school, as a young boy, he used to carry around a little tin with some poo in
18:15:50 <nslater> TRUFAX (I read it on teh wikipedia)
18:15:54 <griff> It all makes sense now
18:16:03 <nslater> I did actually read this on wikipedia
18:16:23 <griff> but he's russian, wouldn't it be tinpoo, not putin?
18:16:29 <griff> (hur hur I make meem joek)
18:16:33 <nslater> don't ask me! crazy ruskies
18:17:47 <sbp> fußball is happening
18:19:02 <[bjoern]> It stands to reason that "the government" benefits more from appearing inept than it would from appearing highly competent in cases like this.
18:19:19 <sbp> state thy reasoning
18:20:32 <[bjoern]> Well a simple reason would be that ineptitude inspires sympathy while competence invites suspicion
18:20:42 <griff> bjoern, I'm more partial to the heinlein's razor explanation of things
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18:21:07 <griff> or however it's spelled
18:21:07 <sbp> the simplicity of your explanation has inspired my sympathy
18:22:25 <sbp> to friends he's known as Monty but to you he's Mister Burrrns. Burns-B-B-Burns-Burns-Burns!
18:22:26 <Monty2> Ok, so i tafted over
18:22:36 <sbp> tafted over to where, Monty2?
18:22:38 <Monty2> I reckon wellies + sugar = hustling stables :(
18:22:53 <sbp> yeah mang, hustlin' at the old hustling stables
18:22:56 <griff> am I retarded or was monty a bot some time ago?
18:22:56 <Monty2> Do you believe you are retarded or was monty a bot some time ago ?
18:23:02 <griff> fuck
18:23:04 <griff> I have been played
18:23:08 <sbp> hehe
18:23:11 <griff> :(
18:23:36 <sbp> sbp sez:
18:23:38 <sbp> gut-n8!
18:23:56 <[bjoern]> You adjusted poorly to winter time.
18:24:13 <sbp> yeah, I'm just going out really
18:24:21 <sbp> gn8 anyway
18:24:27 <[bjoern]> well so get on it then
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19:38:49 <Monty2> it's [[sroracle]]!
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19:44:48 <Monty2> welcome, procto
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19:46:44 <[[sroracle]]> Err
19:47:13 <nslater> yo
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20:07:17 <Monty2> But what does libby have to do with the price of fish?
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20:25:53 <nslater> sbp: http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ksfug6K6NW1qzz8juo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1257193541&Signature=4Q9yrEt83oMtFn6AXg7p10ryhmo%3D
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20:56:11 <[bjoern]> .leo Redakteur
20:56:12 <phenny> der Redakteur = subeditor, line producer (cine.)
20:56:13 <phenny> der Redakteur | die Redakteurin = editor, copy editor, editorial journalist
20:56:14 <phenny> auftraggebender Redakteur (TV) = commissioning editor
20:56:15 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Redakteur
20:56:29 <[bjoern]> I find Redakteur ~ redact interesting
20:56:41 <[bjoern]> unfortunately it translates poorly into en
20:56:43 <[bjoern]> .ety redact
20:56:44 <phenny> "1432, from L. redact-, pp. stem of redigere 'to bring back, collect, reduce,' from re- 'back, again' + agere 'to drive' (see act)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=redact
20:56:54 <[bjoern]> .w redact
20:56:56 <phenny> redact — verb: 1. To reduce to form, as literary matter; to digest and put in shape (matter for publication); to edit, 2. To censor, used by a government when parts of a document are kept secret and the remainder released
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22:22:26 <[bjoern]> .gc +dutube
22:22:27 <phenny> +dutube: 361
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