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05:42:19 <[bjoern]> Apparently yr.no's weather data is now even more open than before
05:42:24 <[bjoern]> .news yr.no
05:42:25 <phenny> [bjoern]: http://www.skiinfo.no/Nyheter/Haukelifjell-ENOHAUKE-104-no.jhtml?aic=172638
05:42:25 <Monty> hehe yeah but the heroes are some infra there. streaming attacments
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07:10:17 <dmiles_afk> anyone here playing with LarKC?
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08:09:06 <[bjoern]> "They haven't demonstrated any rational thought, as a nation, since proving in 1776 that they had no clue how to make tea."
08:11:17 <procto> uhm, americans did that in 1773
08:12:01 <[bjoern]> Perhaps it was a control test to verify earlier findings.
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10:44:23 <sbp> yo
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11:45:32 <deltab> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/i/newdesign-ancient.png
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12:01:41 <[bjoern]> IT IS 00,00a99,99 SWHACK 00,00double99,99!!
12:03:06 <[bjoern]> http://lucasartsworkshop.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/secret-of-monkey-island-\endash -the-deleted-extended-scenes/
12:04:03 <[bjoern]> I distinctly recall the shark scene actually
12:04:18 <[bjoern]> Perhaps they weren't so deleted in the german version?
12:07:20 <[bjoern]> like the looting part
12:08:17 <[bjoern]> somewhat unsure about the crew intro part, it's not quite fitting as they should be in a hurry.
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12:44:30 <[bjoern]> yay! "UK unemployment rise slowing"
12:45:29 <[bjoern]> .title http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm
12:45:30 <phenny> [bjoern]: BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft disconnects Xbox gamers
12:45:49 <[bjoern]> Not your kindle, not your iphone, not your xbox, ...
12:47:24 <[bjoern]> "Two former Bear Stearns hedge fund managers charged with fraud have been found not guilty by a New York jury"
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13:23:57 <[bjoern]> anyone got experience with pdf data extraction / conversion tools?
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13:44:20 <[bjoern]> I did not know pdftotext had a -layout switch
13:45:09 <[bjoern]> results are not that great, but tolerable more or less
13:54:26 <[bjoern]> Computer crime while carrying a weapon is an interesting situation.
13:56:09 <[bjoern]> eco criminals are more likely to carry a weapon, but computer criminals take more hard drugs.
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14:00:27 <[bjoern]> 12 out of 17 cases of ... fraud in the area of stock market speculation fell into the 0-15 EUR demages range in germany 2008 apparently.
14:01:01 <[bjoern]> with total demages 81 734 EUR...
14:04:25 <[bjoern]> comitted by foreigners 57% of the time.
14:04:41 <[bjoern]> (none carrying a gun)
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14:06:53 <[bjoern]> Eight cases of stalking with shooting.
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14:16:45 <[bjoern]> Shoplifting has a clearance ratio of 92.9% for total demages of around 28 Mio EUR (~ 396 000 cases)
14:26:14 <[bjoern]> Well the first news report I find on this cites some not further sourced study that isn't online, claiming lifting by customers alone is at 2.8 billion in germany, 4.9 billion if you include employees, suppliers.
14:26:34 <[bjoern]> Yet they claim 82 Euro on average for customers, so if you go...
14:26:56 <[bjoern]> .c 2.8 billion EUR over 82 EUR
14:26:57 <phenny> (2.8 billion Euros) over (82 Euros) = 34 146 341.5
14:27:50 <[bjoern]> .leo Dunkelziffer
14:27:51 <phenny> die Dunkelziffer (Kriminologie) = dark figure - of crime
14:27:52 <phenny> die Dunkelziffer = estimated number of unreported cases
14:27:53 <phenny> — http://dict.leo.org/ende?search=Dunkelziffer
14:29:12 <[bjoern]> If you won't get caught 99% of the time, well, no wonder it's popular....
14:30:05 <[bjoern]> (the demages are in line with expenses for security and surveillance, i suppose the "study" may have included that in their demages.)
14:30:25 <[bjoern]> (not very reasonable spendings there)
14:31:05 <[bjoern]> Oh they actually do source it a bit more at the end; odd, my googlings had very different results
14:32:06 <[bjoern]> (apparently one of two parties doing the study was a retail security service company, i am so surprised)
14:34:01 <[bjoern]> ha funny one of our leading magazines published a piece on this just yesterday
14:34:16 <[bjoern]> citing the same source as the much older article discussed above, lets see
14:35:22 <[bjoern]> they claim good worth 5.2 billion EUR disappeared, half of the demages attributed to customers
14:36:08 <[bjoern]> 94 EUR per customer
14:36:52 <[bjoern]> And retailers are spending less on security measures, omg!
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14:38:12 <[bjoern]> Hello ksclarke, Welcome to Swhack, your source for Good German Statistics. This channel is logged (sometimes). Your seatbelt will fasten you now.
14:38:28 <ksclarke> heh, thanks :-)
14:40:09 <[bjoern]> Interesting the other source of the study is named "Center for Retail Research" in one article, "Institut für Einzelhandelsforschung" in the next, and then "Europäischen Handels-Instituts" in the third (I am assuming its the same each time, the first two times the security company is the same, and it's not mentioned at all the third time)
14:41:29 <[bjoern]> Oh the third article claims 3.9 billion goods missing (one year up to June 2009), couple of months later it's 5.2 billion (one year up to yesterday, see above)
14:44:12 <[bjoern]> "EHI Retail Institute" is what the apparent institute calls itself
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14:45:02 <[bjoern]> There also is a "Centre for Retail Research" but its a different institute. I am not sure how the britons know so much about shop lifting in germany...
14:46:37 <[bjoern]> There was a "(Betriebswirtschaftliches) Institut für Einzelhandelsforschung" in cologne long ago, but the name basically links the article i read plus an essay about the history and name changes of it
14:50:44 <[bjoern]> the "EHI" does not have a recent press release in this area, only one from june 2009
14:51:05 <[bjoern]> their study is not online, and apparently based on a survey among 78 retailers
14:51:52 <[bjoern]> the numbers they report are, as they call it, Inventurdifferenzen (inventory differences)
14:53:01 <[bjoern]> it appears to be ruled out that those come from burglary
15:00:33 <[bjoern]> Ah so indeed, they are arguing you get away 99% of the time I take it from another press release.
15:01:50 <[bjoern]> funny how wikipedia claims shoplifting is "almost" 10% of all crimes, while the actual stats say 6.5%.
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15:04:17 <[bjoern]> all theft where demage has been assessed amounts to 2 billion according to the official statistics.
15:04:45 <clsn> What do you mean "actual fact"? If wikipedia says it, it must be true.
15:05:02 <[bjoern]> stats, not facts
15:05:13 <[bjoern]> I am puzzled how you can mix those up
15:05:28 <[bjoern]> (all fraud is 4.8 billion, as a comparison)
15:09:22 <clsn> Maybe that means that 6.5% is “almost” 10%
15:10:28 <[bjoern]> We call it WikiRounding.
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17:07:42 <H0gan> Anyone else get their Wave invites today?
17:09:09 <jsled> yea, I ended up getting another
17:10:12 <H0gan> I can it being useful for a development team.
17:10:25 <H0gan> But I doubt it's going to replace my Gmail.
17:10:50 <jsled> until you go to log into gmail some day and get google wave, instead. :)
17:11:22 <H0gan> :/
17:11:44 <H0gan> Hopefully the Gmail team are strong enough to prevent that.
17:14:40 <jsled> you assume they want to.
17:16:04 <H0gan> In my head each Google division are at war with the others.
17:16:25 <H0gan> The 10 min introduction Wave video has the worst acting I'v seen in a long time.
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18:58:47 <deltab> H0gan: corporate divisions are often in competition with each other
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